OMG thank you, i though i was crazy, Birdring is a monster, for me the best at his prime, he was just unlucky with injury and couldnt show his true potential
Shy higher then ans? Idk man ans literally won owl grand finals with his aim and during his prime he ate every other hitscan on the list Shy is good. But he wasnt near ans level of dominance. Although i must say ans hero pool was smaller than shy
Okay as a hs player 5. Birdring 4. Shy 3. Mer1t 2. Lip 1. Ans Nobody can argue about ans having the highest peak we've seen, honorable mention to Proud, guy is getting dangerously close to being t5 for me at the age of 17 Edit: I'm talking about their respective peaks, carpe would've been 5th...
@@yoyocherio okay, first of all assuming kenzo is even top 3 widows ever how can you be the best when there are better? That makes no sense. Second of all, Arrge isn't even the best honzo and his widow is nothing to talk about. Also, neither of them have played on the big stage. Maybe you just like them but the the list is about the objective best. And neither of them have the credentials.
@@marcovazquez-ou2pv both have played on the big stage and have thousands of followers, arge is the best hanzo and Kenzo is top 3 widow, meaning he is in the top 3 and his exact position is debatable but imo he is the best, however even if he isn’t he makes up for it with his other heroes like his Ashe and sombra which put him at rank 1 of all time
I’m a huge fusion carpe fan, so I’ll be real. He had to win to some tournament to be on this list. Dunking on Seoul in a meaningless match after they shitstomped u to give fusion there umpteenth second place finish doesn’t beat ans or shy outperforming there contemporaries in playoff match.
Ans had the highest peak of any pro player in overwatch tbh, but it was only for a season, lip however has been at the top for pretty much his entire career on multpile different teams now. Thats why i think lip deserves the top spot as the goat of overwatch. Also striker hasnt been known for his widow since like season 1 really, i wouldnt have him in my list
@@madnessman1520 ans did not have the highest peak of any owl player that goes to leave in 2021 who was undisputed meanwhile ans in his one cracked season can be argued behind mvp candidate carpe that season
Agreed. I still remember his game on glads where he hard carried them a win against toronto for a playoffs spot and you could litteraly see him pass out after they won. The guy had the flu and wasnt supposed to play, but he saw his team was losing and he asked them to sub him in so he could get his own micheal jordan flu game
@@szethowl why not over shy and mer1t or carpe, more longevity actually won unlike carpe was a better hitscan then shy in s4 and better sombra then mer1t and shy this season, carried as much as shy, I think ppl are suffering from the greatest case of recency bias and value second places all to much
@@tachyon7368he was not better hs than shy in s4 and shy carried in 2022 mid season madness, and playoff run. Where was birdring? And in 2023 shy beat birdring in the playoffs and also beat lip and then beat lip again at World Cup. I agree birdring was nasty in owl season 1 and had some sick clips in season 4, but one great season in season 1 of owl is not enough for me to put him over shy. Ans maybe.
@@Johnsmith36346 arguably better then shy in 21, plus apex plus won owl, top 3 sombra in 23 where shy literally threw games on the hero. can play tracer whihc is historically a HITSCAN hero, also plays genji. you younginss have no respect
Quickly scanned the through the list and although I do agree but you have no striker not even an hm. This isn’t just a you thing either from what I see many don’t put striker into these lists despite him being a tried and true hitscan player. Yeah he primarily played tracer reaper they’re still hitscans but he also played and was good at sombra symm hanzo(all played by hitscan) cassidy and even ashe widow(no soldier and sojourn to my knowledge).
@@Coops321 now we’re making up things lmao 😂 he never was flex dps player he never specialized in flex dps play when he and ans played together never once did anyone refer to them as a flex and hitscan duo it was double hitscan. If u bring up his hero pool tracer, reaper, hanzo, sombra, symm they’re all played and mastered by hitscan players and once again cass Ashe and even widow were at some points apart of his hero pool
@ELI-521 every single one of those is a flex dps though. Having a hitscan weapon doesn't categorise you as a hitscan- it's more about range and playstyle. If you think of every top player at the heroes you mentioned, nearly all of them are flex dps- proper, stalk3r, kevster, heesang etc
@@Coops321 tracer sombra reaper are hitscan both historically and in modern era . Thier weapon is hitscan so by definition they are hitscan. You are correct in the sense that weapon type isn’t the only dictation to determining a hero’s role in which hero pools play a part in as well however that does not negate the fact that they’re still hitscan by definition. Yes I mentioned symm and hanzo according to weapon type they would be flex however is we take into account hero pools and compositions they too are “hitscan”. Lastly about the heroes I meant no he still wouldn’t be flex based off the players I mentioned bcuz 1. He doesn’t specialize in any projectile hero’s Mei genji echo junkrat torbjourn phrag(played during s1 briefly but never once touched hero after). And 2. All the heroes I named are once again played and mastered by hitscan players lip happy birdring flora shy mer1t effect heesu etc etc
Striker nowhere near top 10 let alone top 5 btw. You have players like ANS, Lip, Carpe, Diem, Birdring, Happy, Shy, Kai, Saya, PINE, and Merit who all immediately come to mine as better. Striker wasn’t even good enough to start on shock most days unless it involved tracer or reaper.
Shy higher then ans? Idk man ans literally won owl grand finals with his aim and during his prime he ate every other hitscan on the list Shy is good. But he wasnt near ans level of dominance. Although i must say ans hero pool was smaller than shy
In retrospect, I'd probably move Birdring above Ans. Lowkey overlooked the guy. Appreciate the comments
the streets dont know how good birdring actually was
@@FeedJaeGonlol preach
Facts not as powerful as these guys tho in his prime when there was no shy and ans was the goat
OMG thank you, i though i was crazy, Birdring is a monster, for me the best at his prime, he was just unlucky with injury and couldnt show his true potential
My favorite player before mn3 joined in the league
@@심심하지보고가 people forgetting birdring and carpe where arguably better players then ans that year and could hang and at times best him
1.pge
2.lips or wtvr his name is
@@stoptakingabear PGE #1 Hitscan mb mb
Birdring deserves better
5. Mer1t
4. Shy
3. Carpe
2. Birdring
1. Lip the goat
Where is Metro?
Not seeing anyone passing Lip any time soon. He's still clearly the best, with Mer1t at number two
5. Shy
4. Birdring
3. ANS
2. Happy
1. Lip
Hm carpe kai mer1t and fits
Awesome video! Very informational for someone likes me who wants to know more about OWL history but doesn’t. Keep it up! 🎉
Glad you enjoyed!
Happy is one of the best counter snipers in the game so I would put him in my top three.
Absoloutely goated video bro, I'm genuinely so glad I clicked on it! Keep grinding!
5. Ans
4. Happy
3. Shy
2. Carpe
1. Lip
mine is
PINE
PINE
PINE
PINE
PINE
Bro has 3 clips and then fell of the face of the earth
Bro got shit on by carpe during a literal double sniper playoff meta. Could not have failed harder when it mattered most. And I’m a carpe fan.
Shy higher then ans? Idk man ans literally won owl grand finals with his aim and during his prime he ate every other hitscan on the list
Shy is good. But he wasnt near ans level of dominance. Although i must say ans hero pool was smaller than shy
Ans only had one great season tho shy has been top 3 in Asia for like 3 yrs straight
Okay as a hs player
5. Birdring
4. Shy
3. Mer1t
2. Lip
1. Ans
Nobody can argue about ans having the highest peak we've seen, honorable mention to Proud, guy is getting dangerously close to being t5 for me at the age of 17
Edit: I'm talking about their respective peaks, carpe would've been 5th...
What is the peak of merit over shy? Shy had incredible performances over lip and proper whereas who did merit beat in a hitscan match?
Ans was a better hitscan than Merit at their peak✋️
But we are talking all time
I even think that Ans was the better Player "of all time" @@pogchamp154
@@Kenshi837ehow merit was top 4 for last three yrs. Ans was best for 1 season then a bench player or retired. Plus merit won a championship as well.
this video is missing is missing some jars of honey and my goat pge
I think fits needs some love
My list would be
1. TheRealKenzo
2. Warn
3. Arrge
4. Diya
5. Jay3
forgot kephrii
RealKenzo is master tops. On the big stage he wouldn't make it. Also Arrge isn't a hitscan main he mains Spamzo.
@@marcovazquez-ou2pv no Kenzo is top 3 widow of all time and hanzo does the role of hitscan so he counts
@@yoyocherio okay, first of all assuming kenzo is even top 3 widows ever how can you be the best when there are better? That makes no sense. Second of all, Arrge isn't even the best honzo and his widow is nothing to talk about. Also, neither of them have played on the big stage. Maybe you just like them but the the list is about the objective best. And neither of them have the credentials.
@@marcovazquez-ou2pv both have played on the big stage and have thousands of followers, arge is the best hanzo and Kenzo is top 3 widow, meaning he is in the top 3 and his exact position is debatable but imo he is the best, however even if he isn’t he makes up for it with his other heroes like his Ashe and sombra which put him at rank 1 of all time
bruh what about pine and year 1 of overwatch dafran... you also forgot flow3r though he was good for only a short while.
bait
As a huge fan of Pine imma say, Pine only had 3 good clips, but besides those clips, he's performance wasn't that good. But I still love him
Good bait
No jerry? Reported
Whats the song in the vid?😊
Himilau City from Pokémon Black/White 2
Its not a real list if LIP isn’t number 1
Ans not top1… NOT watching…….S…M….H😤
Why no one recognizes mn3 😭😭
I’m a huge fusion carpe fan, so I’ll be real. He had to win to some tournament to be on this list. Dunking on Seoul in a meaningless match after they shitstomped u to give fusion there umpteenth second place finish doesn’t beat ans or shy outperforming there contemporaries in playoff match.
Where hm xzi>seeker
My list would be ans lip striker carpe mer1t
Ans had the highest peak of any pro player in overwatch tbh, but it was only for a season, lip however has been at the top for pretty much his entire career on multpile different teams now. Thats why i think lip deserves the top spot as the goat of overwatch. Also striker hasnt been known for his widow since like season 1 really, i wouldnt have him in my list
@@madnessman1520 ans did not have the highest peak of any owl player that goes to leave in 2021 who was undisputed meanwhile ans in his one cracked season can be argued behind mvp candidate carpe that season
Birdring robbed, should be second
Agreed. I still remember his game on glads where he hard carried them a win against toronto for a playoffs spot and you could litteraly see him pass out after they won. The guy had the flu and wasnt supposed to play, but he saw his team was losing and he asked them to sub him in so he could get his own micheal jordan flu game
@@tachyon7368 Good shout. In retrospect he defo could’ve made the list over Ans
@@szethowl why not over shy and mer1t or carpe, more longevity actually won unlike carpe was a better hitscan then shy in s4 and better sombra then mer1t and shy this season, carried as much as shy, I think ppl are suffering from the greatest case of recency bias and value second places all to much
@@tachyon7368he was not better hs than shy in s4 and shy carried in 2022 mid season madness, and playoff run. Where was birdring? And in 2023 shy beat birdring in the playoffs and also beat lip and then beat lip again at World Cup. I agree birdring was nasty in owl season 1 and had some sick clips in season 4, but one great season in season 1 of owl is not enough for me to put him over shy. Ans maybe.
@@Johnsmith36346 arguably better then shy in 21, plus apex plus won owl, top 3 sombra in 23 where shy literally threw games on the hero. can play tracer whihc is historically a HITSCAN hero, also plays genji. you younginss have no respect
No quartz?
he is in the top 10 right now but he is nowhere in the all time conversation
@@abdullahj8651 Quartz is very good but he is nowhere near top all time. He lacks both longevity and achievements. Still a great player though
Quartz is like Flow3r pops off in world cup then disappears
Id have s00n on my list jz
Guys guys guys pine pls pine is the goat
Quickly scanned the through the list and although I do agree but you have no striker not even an hm. This isn’t just a you thing either from what I see many don’t put striker into these lists despite him being a tried and true hitscan player. Yeah he primarily played tracer reaper they’re still hitscans but he also played and was good at sombra symm hanzo(all played by hitscan) cassidy and even ashe widow(no soldier and sojourn to my knowledge).
He's not a hitscan, he's a flex dps through and through. The limited time he played on ashe, cass he was unimpressive
@@Coops321 now we’re making up things lmao 😂 he never was flex dps player he never specialized in flex dps play when he and ans played together never once did anyone refer to them as a flex and hitscan duo it was double hitscan. If u bring up his hero pool tracer, reaper, hanzo, sombra, symm they’re all played and mastered by hitscan players and once again cass Ashe and even widow were at some points apart of his hero pool
@ELI-521 every single one of those is a flex dps though. Having a hitscan weapon doesn't categorise you as a hitscan- it's more about range and playstyle. If you think of every top player at the heroes you mentioned, nearly all of them are flex dps- proper, stalk3r, kevster, heesang etc
@@Coops321 tracer sombra reaper are hitscan both historically and in modern era . Thier weapon is hitscan so by definition they are hitscan. You are correct in the sense that weapon type isn’t the only dictation to determining a hero’s role in which hero pools play a part in as well however that does not negate the fact that they’re still hitscan by definition. Yes I mentioned symm and hanzo according to weapon type they would be flex however is we take into account hero pools and compositions they too are “hitscan”. Lastly about the heroes I meant no he still wouldn’t be flex based off the players I mentioned bcuz 1. He doesn’t specialize in any projectile hero’s Mei genji echo junkrat torbjourn phrag(played during s1 briefly but never once touched hero after). And 2. All the heroes I named are once again played and mastered by hitscan players lip happy birdring flora shy mer1t effect heesu etc etc
Striker nowhere near top 10 let alone top 5 btw. You have players like ANS, Lip, Carpe, Diem, Birdring, Happy, Shy, Kai, Saya, PINE, and Merit who all immediately come to mine as better. Striker wasn’t even good enough to start on shock most days unless it involved tracer or reaper.
Pine
Shy higher then ans? Idk man ans literally won owl grand finals with his aim and during his prime he ate every other hitscan on the list
Shy is good. But he wasnt near ans level of dominance. Although i must say ans hero pool was smaller than shy