The Real Jesus: New evidence from history and archaeology | Paul Maier at Iowa State
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Anybody with me here in January, 2020? Still an outstanding speech by an outstanding speaker.
Yeah here 2020
Yes, best one I've heard yet for 2020 especially with the resurgence of mythicism.
January 10th, 2020. This was an amazing talk by a wonderfully knowledgeable man.
Yep, Jan 2020 and still here!
Yep, 01/19/2020... and still totally confident nobody knows the real story.
An excellent presentation - I really wish I had heard it before my Christian faith had failed, and I spent too many years as an unhappy atheist! Thankfully, I returned to my faith about three and a half years ago, and the hard work of so many diligent people on this platform played a massive part in that. Praise Jesus for providing unworthy doubters like me with scholars like Paul Maier!
Plane Joe Jesus is where it’s at!
It is *so* difficult for people in a *SEA* of alleged "scholars" who write books like the ones this man mentions to not have holes in their faith or outright LOSE their Faith. Thank the Lord that men like this exist in order to reinforce the FACTS and to do it from a scholarly level. I was raised in a denomination that said I was good with "just the Bible". The fact is... NO I wasn't. Every week or two some "learned scholar" would "discovery" something supposedly new and it would put another hole in what I believed. Later on I realized the Bible is not in a vacuum ....I.e. dropped from the sky. There's an actual RESEARCHABLE Hiistory around the Church and what they believed, why they believed and how they actually practiced their faith. I blame groups like the one I was with that pretend that a book was simply "dropped" from the sky into our hands and things like "Jesus is just a feeling." etc.. and then of course there are those who are in direct atheistic attack as well. I believe Lord, Help my unbelief!!!! One of my favorite sayings from scripture.
Doesn’t he sound like George Carlin? Weird!!!
I so pity you Joe. You escaped, and yes reality is tough, but it beats the delusional fantasy no matter how much you want them to be true.
Joe needs a sky daddy soother to make it through the day. Now that is sad.
Bishop Times
What kind of person sits through an hour long lecture of that quality and then asks the professor why he accepts such a “horribly unlikely” story? I am glad the professor dealt with him so graciously.
I like how he is honest about where his knowledge ends, even if it’s not helping his cause. It makes him more trustworthy.
Yep, that will sucker me in and has atm
However, sincerity is not evidence of truth. He is "sincerely wrong" about what "rises to the level of EVIDENCE".
@@DavidWilliams-on9bu of course. Never said it was.
@@branver1172 I only state the obvious; because of the "accolades" that this "alleged researcher" gets for "being honest and sincere". I am a lawyer...and I never give accolades to such nonsense. When your FOUNDATION is wrong; then any "premise" that is "inculcated upon an audience" based on such FOUNDATIONAL ERRORS....is a lie and propaganda. That means "people believe based on biased programming"...not based on EVIDENCE.
@@DavidWilliams-on9bu I agree. If the premise is wrong, everything built on it is wrong.
I do believe character witness is used in court of law?
Not to replace the evidence. But to let us know whether the expert giving the evidence is worth our time.
If a person is known for lying, or for talking off the top of their head, their words are under suspicion.
We still need the evidence. And I believe Christianity has that beyond a reasonable doubt.
It is astonishing how much controversy Jesus has stirred up right from the beginning, with no sign of it quieting down either. Others who were really big deals at the time we have forgotten about or only historians and history buffs know about them. Yet this man has torn the world apart after 3 just years of his mission. Of all the people who have ever lived more have heard the name of Jesus than of any other man that has ever walked the Earth.
Actually Christianity didn't really take off before constantin. Before him it was just a not very large religious group like a lot of others, but his wife liked it, and he saw how he could use it politically. So, it was more like 200 years, not 3.
Παναγιώτης ΜΧΣ I believe the epistles of Paul were written early after the resurrection of Christ, so it had already begun to SPREAD early. Now when I took off, I don’t really know.
But keep in mind the name jesus was not around until 500 ish years ago. His name in hebrew was yeshua.
@@nikolajrasmussen9573 Ignoring the fact that we can trace accurately the historical existence of Jesus around 1 AD.
_"t is astonishing how much controversy Jesus has stirred up right from the beginning, with no sign of it quieting down either."_
In Europe, we are getting ourself rid of this ridiculous cult of yours...
I can not believe Maier was 83 in this video! His mind doesn’t seem to have aged since he was 30
WHAT?!?! I would’ve guessed he was in his late 60’s, and that’s by appearance, only.
Age of the body has nothing to do with the age and enthusiasm of the spirit.
Ex Muslim proud Christian from Pakistan declaring Jesus is God✝️
Great video, thank you for sharing 🙏
Jamal Khan God bless you!
Please leave "proud" to the false religion of the quran. For Christ has warned the proud:
Be thankful to God that He has given you the true wisdom most people lack nowadays and multiply your works in humility.
“So those who are last now will be first then, and those who are first will be last.”
May God always bless you.
@@toninobelimussi296 I don't think you understood what he was trying to convey. The "proud" he is talking about is not the "pride" the Bible speaks of negatively... it's a matter of linguistic understanding. Don't be so quick to jump and correct people.
@@loksterization It is not my intention to correct anyone, but it is important to understand this fundamental difference between following Jesus the Lamb of God and the often fierce tone of Islam (I'm reading the quran right now and boy, does it often sound proud and righteous).
@@toninobelimussi296 I agree with you, however this new Christian did not speak in the tone of Islam as you describe (and we all know) -- he is merely excited about the fact that he has found the truth of Jesus, and we should celebrate with him! He has moved from darkness to light, it is hard not to get excited about that! :)
Signed, sealed, delivered. Thank you Paul Maier.
one thing i will say you are right about. you cant take short cuts, but when you are called and follow his footsteps and being obedient to his commands and instructions , and is willing. you can hear him and his instructions as clear as day.
9:24 "I don't know how to love him." Then Paul's comment, "I don't know why I did that." Very funny, and adds life to a lecture to make it more palatable! But that's why I'm a 58-year-old man who avoids the radio wherever I go now. How many of these short, hook-filled songs have invaded our minds all these years?!? Sapping our intellectual and creative abilities and energies along the way.
Hard to tell if this professor wants to be a historian or a comedian. Good stuff but he should take this topic more serious in my opinion.
I wish I had been in one of his classes! Knowledgeable, affable, humorous, humble, honest, informative: What a great teacher!
You are in one of his classes right now watching his teaching. One of the greats. Was introduced to Dr. Maier around the time of The DaVinci Code through a series of programs Day of Discovery had produced.
He's not honest or humble, he's biased.
@@artsaliva8895, Because he has faith in Christ yeah
@@michaelbrickley2443 faith is the excuse people give to believe in nonsense, and Christ is an empty word void of meaning, it's offensive and arrogant also.
@@artsaliva8895 an opinion based on what? The opinion of you. Ignorance may be bliss on earth but it won’t open the gates to eternity. Smh
John 17 : 5 " Father, glorify me in Your own presence with the glory I had with you before the world began."
Father glorify me with your own penis and glorify the glory hole we had last night. Where you glorified all over my body. Praise Jesus
🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🐻🐻🐻🐻
@@bearnunnemaker5453 If He cant make it I will be around, but you have to wait as there are a lot of buggers to be butted before you and some even to be rebutted.
Bear Nunnemaker you know. If you are wrong about the existence of God, you are going to be very sorry. Please reconsider your position on belief in God
It's very true that GOD don't put men in hell,they choose to go there,just to prove they are right,and not GOD. It's like eating the apple coz GOD said not to.Proves how wretched man's heart is.Thank GOD "In the beginning,GOD ."
@@shredhed572 Oh well. If the Christian " god " is so kind and loving he or she will forgive me.
Dr. Maier is a "believable" wonderful speaker. My ADD often gets in my way when I listen to a speaker; I was totally focused for this talk.
oswald rendon-herrero yes! Some ppl have that skill to keep your attention. We need teachers like this
which shows your ADD still annoyingly gets in your way.
Do interesting men always have wild hair? This is too important for my levity. Such wonderful information.
kenneth mortimer Yes they do...then some woman comes along, tames him, makes him cut his hair and the magic is gone
@@Bronxlady1 Samson haha
Cept she schemed like history can't compare haha
Anyone listening on this Ester sat 2020.
I was Baptised 3 years ago by Pentecostals who scared me because I couldn't speak in tongues straight away. I didn't know the Bible other than what I remember from primary school. over the past 3 years I have been seeking the truth reading the gospels over and over and referring to the old Testament trying to understand the Jewish hereditary beliefs a typical Thomas but in the end my heart showed me the truth. xxx
check out Dr. James Tour, a messianic Jew, and a powerful scientist in his own right. Too many people apply their own Litmus test as to whether or not you're "In"Your friends were using Tongues as a Litmus test.interesting side note: Lots and Lots of people were saved, became believers without the gospels, They had not been written yet. And for how many hundreds of years there was no printed bible available ,only hand copied texts and not for the masses of people who were unable to read anyway.
Anyone can do the gibberish that Pentecostals refer to as speaking in tongues. But as for genuine New Testament speaking in tongues, that is identifiable as an actual language, that is exceedingly rare.
@@katsheetz I wonder if those were different times as Paul saw Jesus on his way to Damascus. I wonder if God has chosen to manifest in a different way than He did then?
Larry Hurtado has a lot of really good stuff. I would like to hear some of his lectures, as long as they weren't too academic for the rest of us to be able to grasp.
After hearing the professor I want to study archaeology, such a fascinating subject, I hope the professor is still well, such a great teacher
Yes!!! I also think that
I am actually meeting with him tomorrow. He is now 93! And loves with his daughter. He was my dads pastor in college. Looking forward to discussing so many topics with him.
What a coincidence that he mentioned "Jesus Chirst Superstar". I just watched a short clip of it a few days ago, as I was curious about it having the dude from Korn in it. It was absolutely terrible.
Dear Professor Meier, your lecture is the best I heard for many years. Fortunate were your students in Michigan University.
I read his book about Pontous Pilate, the best book I have ever read about history and the roman empire. Legend says that Pilate accepted the faith and that both the eastern and russian orthodox faiths celebrate a holy day called saint Pilate and Procura day.
Mark Ross what’s that for a book?
Tertullian says that about Pilate, in his Apology, approximately end of chapter 21. I wouldn't call what Tertullian says a legend.
"But He spent forty days with some of His disciples down in Galilee, a region of Judaea, instructing them in the doctrines they were to teach to others. Thereafter, having given them commission to preach the gospel through the world, He was encompassed with a cloud and taken up to heaven, - a fact more certain far than the assertions of your Proculi concerning Romulus. All these things Pilate did to Christ; and now in fact a Christian in his own convictions, he sent word of Him to the reigning Caesar, who was at the time Tiberius. Yes, and the Caesars too would have believed on Christ, if either the Caesars had not been necessary for the world, or if Christians could have been Caesars. "
Absolutely riveting. From the start to finish I hung off his every word.I leave with new exciting archeological discoveries to share .Thankyou for posting this.
He is lying* there is not a shred of any kind of evidence that jesus ever existed, but who cares?
Life goals. I want his energy at his age.
10:11 - Da Vinci code is largely based on monk scrolls in a museum that have already been verified as forgeries.
Yet a lot of atheist and agnostics use them to have a valid argument against the Jesus of the bible. Ha.
I read the original "Holy blood Holy grail". They footnoted their own work!
@@Ben-qb4lj I did too. It was long and boring and very poor scholarship.
@True Heart absolutely true. God bless you ✌️
Yes I agree, Catholicism went from paganism to satanism very fast. YESUA from Israel is the truth
Also, as for the earthquake, it wasn't just a local earthquake. Another researcher said that the Chinese recorded the earthquake all the way over there in Asia. So apparently it's shook the foundations of the Earth.
I thought I read that one of the Caesars talked about a noon darkness that happened around the time of Jesus's death. I don't think it was the current one at the time (Tiberious), but I'm thinking it was Nero reflecting about it in something he wrote.. or maybe his senate.
please, for adding to documentation information. who is "ANOTHER RESEARCHER"? sloppy to leave us without that. You aren't the only person who does that but it is a critical piece of info. it feeds the skeptic cause for us to be sloppy.sourcing is critical. a name, an article title, a LINK would be helpful otherwise we wont be taken seriously and you will be just "preaching to the Choir"Regards KS
Kuffar Legion well, if you think the darkness dark enough for us to have a record of it from antiquity was just dark clouds, then your too far from belief in whatever was recorded in the gospel there. I'll admit, that is one that has even the scholars universally stumped (as far as I know).. but I don't believe it would be there if something didn't happen. Since it happened one day in one City 2000 years ago, I'm not surprised that there wasn't a recorder of history standing around to describe it. There was a witness that told luke (I think it was.. I just woke up lol) and since he's universally accepted as the greatest historian of antiquity.. That works for me. I've seen some crazy things in my life.. But I didn't write them down at the time.. And there's multiple millions that could say the same. It's hard to imagine today with everyone having a recorder in their pocket I know, so think about it back then
Kuffar Legion when my dad was in hospice and dying, which took a week or so, he kept saying that people were visiting him that nobody else saw. The kicker is that everyone he said that came to him was people who had already passed away. He didn't see the pope or any famous people, but it was people like our neighbor who had recently died, who told him not to worry about all the things he was worried about leaving, that they will all work out and that there are no problems like that where he was going. That's just one example.
Anyways, I imagine that day in Jerusalem might have been something like that.. people started seeing other people that they knew were dead.. But when they left, that just kind of disappeared. And when they discovered the Graves that were opened because of the earthquake, some of them thought that is why they had seen someone dead walking around. Who knows how it works, but maybe when Christ was getting ready to open that door back from the dead to the living, he let some others through it for a bit. I don't know, but that's not the center of the faith the Lord has given me, it's only something I discovered later and it's not a stumbling block to me.. I hope you don't let it be to you either
Kuffar Legion It's so common of an occurrence that it's in the hospice literature, recognized by the medial professionals that deal with the dying every day.. so yeah, I imagine it happened back then too. It tells you to expect your loved one to see spirits if the DEAD, not their favorite celebrity or some guy from work they saw every day and are just hallucinating. I don't know why you brought up yourself seeing someone when you were hospitalized but that was probably a drug induced hallucination or vivid dream.
What's was your point anyway? You wanted to know how people saw dead people after Jesus died and I gave you an example of that type of thing happening even today. You don't want any answers because you think you know or all already. You even think you know why I'm a Christian but you could hardly be more wrong. I didn't think of death at all when the Lord called me, and I tell people about Him because 1. I'm absolutely sure that the Bible is truth and Jesus is alive. 2. It follows that hell is real and I don't want you to go there 3. Our God IS good.. Even wonderful and I experienced his presence and blessings all the time, and grow in wisdom and truth.. so why would anyone keep something like that to themselves?? 3. Jesus tells us to go and share the good news (aka the gospel)!!
I seriously doubt that your persistence in unbelief outweighs my reasons for believing.. But that's your problem.. and it is sad. If you're right then we'll both die and that will be it. No gloating.. nothing mattered anyway, but if I were you I'd prepare for the judgement that the Lord tells us about.. And you do that only by having Jesus cover for you. So I recommend hiring the judges son for your lawyer 😉.
BTW, I'm done with you. I write this for possibly someone else's benefit at this point. I'm not stupid enough to think you'll suddenly have something nice to say, actually I'm sure you've just got to rip what I've said to shreds, so have at it. I'm not gonna waist my time now but hopefully I've at least planted a seed
I was deeply refreshed listening to you Paul! Thank you for all that you do for our Lord
I love this guy's sense of humour.
Brilliant. Concise, personal, direct, and precisely informative. There'd be a lot less bored students if all teachers had this sort of inspired delivery.
@@truthlikevelcro5689 Being loved and approved of isn't the worst thing that can happen to you.
@ I was, at the time I wrote this comment. Some of the things the speaker had said at the time sounded to me, at least, like he was another Dan Brown. I didn't watch the entire presentation. My apologies. I am embarrassed I spoke too soon. Reading the comments that all sounded very Gospel- (Besorah) oriented gave me a good barometric level on what the ideology of the presentation was about. I can't say I remember what it was he said that made me believe he was more of the all-too-popular view that had to believe Jesus/Y'shua had sex with Mary of Magdala and pass his seed on to future generations, which is something I definitely do not subscribe to. He had every right to marry and have kids to pass on his seed, but that was not the reason he came. Sorry for any mix up. Sometimes I react too quickly, especially when it has to do things I am passionate about, and the many sites featuring peanut gallery leaders that love to pervert the truth. I have become cynical, I suppose. I will probably delete my other comments here. I had long forgotten even visiting this site.
@@truthlikevelcro5689 who’d-have thunk an honest person who re-evaluates there own commentary, it’s easy to be cynical out there )
@ LOL.That it is in the spiritual/cultural/political climate we live in, and especially one in which there is a hotbed of hatred toward a president that broke all kinds of records for good simply because he had the audacity to contest a fraudulent election. I might be showing my age, but when I grew up and went to school, we did NOT disrespect a sitting president and try to have him/her removed! We never got to enjoy one day without the "liberals" spewing hatred against DJT and making plans to have him removed all without success (that is why I believe God put this man in office). They hate him not because he poses a threat to Democracy; they hate him because he exposes them. He has them at a checkmate, and they cannot move any which way without being seen. Darkness hates the Light. These people want to continue with the corruption that has enriched them their entire careers. I am cautiously optimistic in light of all the evidence they have found - many say they don't have enough, but does a poker player ever tip his hand? I think big things are going to be happening. So I am praying that we get to have this remarkable man for another four years. The Democratic party collectively are everything that God hates: Proverbs 6:16-19 KJV
16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. Yep, the Demoncraptic party possess these features in abundance!
Thanks for not tearing me apart regarding that ignorant comment, and thank you for allowing me the freedom to stray from the original subject. I can be irritating!
@@truthlikevelcro5689 I can’t imagine you being irritating I think you just have a lot of effervescence and it’s good to speak ones mind and be corrected and correct others, God made us all a little unique I reckon, what others view as bizzare God has purpose for and guides us in, I’m not really a political person ) my clients son is the chief political correspondent for the Australian PM and to tell you the truth I treat most of what I hear with a pinch of salt unlike Gods word which I know I can rely on ) I don’t put the weight upon any political party or politician that many seem to, all I know is yes we are asked to obey the governing authorities unless there at odds with Gods word but there personal success is neither here or there in Gods world ) they are appointed by him and defrocked by him, I don’t put my faith in any person really ) I’m a Amillenialist though so might be on a different page theologically re end times with you regarding how you discern matters ) I can handle getting of the subject I was born down a rabbit hole and took the blue pill ) but I’ve seen the light ) saved a utter wretch like me xx
Several great books for KNOWING THE TRUTH: Crossing The Tiber, by Stephen Ray. Surprised by Truth, by Patrick Medrid. And if you are Jewish, a great book is Honey from the Rock by Roy Schoeman.
God bless you all. He is Risen! Praise God.
Thank you for your suggestions. I will definitely look into them.
@@KB-iz5du You present an ultimatum not a choice. "Either except my reconciliation or DIE repeatedly for eternity".
Prove that The True God and Jesus are not the same 1 Father and 1 Son, wrote in 950 bc. Proverbs 30: 4 Who has ascended to heaven and then descended?Who has established all the ends of the earth? -- What is his name and the name of his son-if you know? 6 Add nothing to his words, Or he will reprove you, And you will be proved a liar.
The truth is that God is the Father of jesus, not jesus,.. The Father of ALL.
It is great info right on I've been a Christian sense 1982 and regret not studying the Bible all the time but have been memerizeing 2 or more Bible verses a day it is very important to get the word of God in y'all the time and confess the Bible verses u learn every day and confess them all through out the day every day ...I am increasing in the knowledge of God And I'm strengthen with God's might in my spirit according to his gloryist power that worketh in me and if we get thoughts that are not right but our fight is against spiritual wickedness in high places so when u get a thought that's no right......u say out loud that's not my thought I don't take u ...I cast u down u exalt your self against the knowledge of God in me and I bring into captivity every thought in me every thought in me to the obeadance of Christ ......2 Corinthians 10.5 ...and let us hold fast to the confession of our faith not wavering for God who promised is faithfull
My sainted sister Haydee graduated from ISU with a BS in zoology so I tuned in believing any college my sister went to must have great speakers! I wasn’t disappointed!
Man, I love the Veritas Forum. Top notch platform for the topic of religion.
Me too! It’s so brilliant that we get to watch all these videos for free!!! I’m blessed by this breakthrough content too
Evidence for Christ. I'm astounded at how much information is presented here. Archaeology, Geography, Inscriptions, Stones, and despite the amount of loss suffered by fire and destruction these things exist still. We can't have the Libraries of Alexandria or Egypt back, but the First Century is yet beautifully elaborated on in discovery all the way to the end of the 20th century and beyond. William Craig Lane says it so clearly, and I'll not forget his debate with Christopher Hitchens. He invites the athiest scholar to accept Jesus somewhere in the dialogue. How Love Peace Patience, Kindness, Meekness, Longsuffering, Temperance, and Self Control exert themselves. Incredible character this Josephus, and all should pay close attention to this talk.
Is that debate with Craig were Hitchens made him look and sound the ignorant, mendacious scientifically ignoramous con man that Craig is?. Every Christian apologist, professional proselytising evangelical fundamentalist attempt of trying to argue their claimed God into existence has ended up with their argument being thoroughly discreditted, if their claimed God was real and evidenced to exist by anyone it would be common knowledge, the person proving that God to exist would be worlddamous, indeed they would be the most celebrated person toha e walked the earth, there would be no believers in the Abrahamic God because the proof would be there that was irrefutable, undeniable, indisputable empirical unfalsifiable and conclusive, and there would be no unbelievers of that God existing, 6,000 plus years of trying to argue it into existence and further away today than on day one. That my friend is an Irrefutable, undeniable, indisputable FACT.
A lot of the so-called proves that he uses concerning geography, and the major characters of history, could be used to prove that some historical novels are true, rather than fiction.
Yes Jesus is who he said he was. I have staked my life on him. Nothing can change that.
Well, that's embarrassing.
@@RooBot for who!
@@RooBot even if she is wrong investing in anything else isn’t going to pay off either when you see how the world is unless you believe this bs.
@@camr4156 - Shirley. Who else?
@@andrewgrant7846 - I agree, my mother is a pastor in the church of England and I was raised christian, so I know it all too well :)
This guy has such a great personality & is such a pleasure to listen to; besides all the valuable information & knowledge he presents.
Thanks for this!
he is a lying sack of shit. and a moron. talk about spewing crap.
rohadt Anyad
Lol! What a class act you are, way to contribute to the discussion with something useful, blanket statements with no support, 3rd grade name calling and generally useless comments, lift a book along with those weights!
Iain Macfarlane i would wager that i have read more books than you. we can also wager on an iq test if you want. i'll even spot you a few standard deviations.
Stellar response yet again, point made
rohadt Anyad Doesn't matter how many books you claim to have read, or how you claim to have a high IQ, if you go into things with presuppositions and most importantly a lack of common sense. For you to claim that someone like Paul Maier, a scholar of more then 50 years and respected by millions is a "lying shack of shit and a moron" as your only rebuttal to his claims...Points LOUDLY to you being a moron, and not near as intelligent as you would claim...Nothing Maier has said here is refuted by world scholars. Going to claim now that you are more intelligent then them too?
F3
Thank you for this. What's the date of this talk?
Dr. Maier's Pontius Pilate is a fascinating read, with amazing scholarship, and even more impactful messages.
The definitive study about this subject is David Carrier's "The historicity of Jesus", a hefty tome and not easy reading. Carrier is an historian specialized in ancient Roman and Greek historian.
Sometimes I naively think those who were there at the time knew more than we do.
Right, it's like saying Obama was a bad president. He is a demon in disguise and we know from seeing him. So Jesus was GOD because they've been fighting since
What?
I meant they called Jesus Prophet, while knowing He was GOD, then after killing HIM , the Arabs and Jews have denied all of GODs laws/doctrines and simply fight for a pile of stone covered soil near a destroyed ancient Temple
Jesus is a "god" when somebody can prove it and not a moment , later or thereabouts.
@@ihavefallenandicantreachmy2113 we will prove it , when you prove you can stop being a drunk
An awesome presentation and conversation!!
Worthy of better than the cans-and-string sound system provided by Iowa State.
Inexcusable.
Great history class . I wish Rabbi Singer's followers would listen to this talk.
I must say---- very good
Presentation and I will
Listen to this again--,,
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This dude is a card, and completely engaging. I kept wanting to take a nap, but his voice woke me up again, I rewound the video to the last spot and continued onward. I adored his puns and anecdotes, as well as his vast knowledge of many subjects. I actually learned some new stuff, which is always exciting, especially the archaeological findings and detailed writings of Josephus. I am going to look up other lectures from this highly intelligent, passionate, and quirky retiree.
it is however an overstatement that flavius josephus particularly supports the neo-apologist idiom;
josephus does imply that some figure known (by then anyhow) as "christ" did live, but no way does
that establish anything supernatural about that historical figure. Rather he was MORTAL and one of
many who wandered and preached.
@@tracyavent-costanza346 You don't believe there is God right??
@@allo5170
WRT "...You don't believe there is God right??..."
I do not claim to know.
@@tracyavent-costanza346 who created the universe??
@@allo5170
1) really I am not that interested in the above question. widely, calvinist neo-apologists claim to know about that question but their narratives are quite specious
2) i would be much more interested in who created the creator of the universe
3) and really I'm not expecting a credible answer to either question
Enjoy watching Professor Paul. Great orator & very knowledgeable on his subjects.
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@@unbroken1010 - When I was trying to debunk Christianity I thought Ceasar's Messiah was the smoking gun. But when I did due diligence I quickly learned that this had been debunked fairly well.
He’s a preacher, not an archeologist
@@artsaliva8895 No, he's not baby, go and cry somewhere else.
If that creature is Professor, I am the pope. You kinderlander are as as credulous as imbecile children
I wish I majored in archaeology, I would have understood you better. Thanks for the brilliant presentation. I was at the edge of my seat through the whole talk. You don't have to be a Christian believer to appreciate the logical facts of Paul Maier.
There's nothing logical about believing what is written in a book. Thankfully we stopped believing ancient texts and then we had the reformation, the birth Science and reason, which created the opportunities we now take for geanted.
@@psychologicalprojectionist A lot of scholarly pursuits were began through the belief in God.
@@dibdap2373 Yeah because there was a long period of time when not believing in God in the correct way was potentially very painful and very bad for you health.
People literally burned alive for suggesting that there maybe other worlds.
Paul Maier has some merit as opposed to Paul of Tarsus who was a liar-faker.
AWESOME! I will plaster the link to whatever comes up in any chat on this subject..
He is awesome. His fictional books are very entertaining and thoughtful too. 'Skeleton in God's Closet' is a good one.
Wow, was not aware. Will make a note, thanks for the mention
Stronger in faith because of this. Thank you Mr Maier.
Jaime Gutierrez u only have faith in things ur not sure about
@@truthseeker4879 do you have faith in your wife that she is faithfull?
This is highly Interesting..
Extreamly appreciated. Thank you
I literally laughed out loud when he said, "The fact that it is highly unlikely is what proved it to be true" 😬 wtf?
I know - my jaw hit the floor when he said that, The mental gymnastics involved are amazing....holy #$@*
I can't believe this guy got (at this point) nearly 100 thumbs down. Even if you disagree with him, he's the most entertaining new testament historian I've ever heard. I mean, seriously, right?
+Brandon Ward
He has a little better comedic timing then some others.
+Agimaso Schandir Badda bing, badda boom!
I downvoted because the summary was uninformative.
Hate will do that to people's ability to see through their lack of knowledge in favor of their ignorance.
@Dan Delgado Isn´t that Bart Ehrman basicly the only idiot in that field, having to be taught by Christians.
His views should be known to you are not uncontested.
Even taking his initial work and his newest will deliver an enormous gap.
Bart believes people forgetting what clothes people wore on 9-11 equals people forgetting what happened in the gospels.
See all these people who know more history then the PH.D. Historian. When even their holy prophet Richard Dawkins even confirmed Jesus was a real person
What makes you think Richard Dawkins would be in a position to confirm Jesus was a real person?
+gamesbok actually your right, Dawkins wouldn't be the guy to confirm it. But 95% and over of historians can confirm it.
No, they certainly cannot confirm it.
+gamesbok I guess no one can confirm anything in the past can they?
Pretending that hearsay is good evidence is just dishonest.
All history can ever do is indicate the most probable series of events, and this, by definition, can never include miracles.
I enjoyed this immensely and learned quite a lot. Took some time to understand part of the puns, though, if I was an English natively I might've found those funnier, having picked up on them sooner. Like Augustus "urning" his place in history 😀
Now, that's research.....proof...facts...truth...
history.... Man, ALL around good work..
May the Lord bless you and your family in a mighty way...thank you for obedience
It bears repeating ... Yehoshua fulfilled all 4 of the spring moedim when he came the first time and he will fulfill the fall moedim when he returns ... ALL 4! Not just Pesach aka passover ... and don't forget about the four days of inspection which began on - you guessed it! The 10th day of the first month aka "palm sunday" ❤❤❤
That is what scripture tells us. The shadow pictures that were set up a long time ago in the Old Testament find fulfillment in Yehoshua, our cohen gadol, our great high priest ❤❤❤Let the ruach ha kodesh, the "holy spirit", lead us into all truth
Greg Jacques Lucifer's Jizz Gargler m. N
Greg Jacques Lucifer's Jizz Gargler And Yahweh is a small g God of war.
@Greg Jacques Lucifer's Jizz Gargler ❤ blessed are the peacemakers for they will be called children of God❤ Matthew 5:9
It's so good to listen to a knowledgeable scholar presenting historical evidence instead of the usual ignoramuses slash atheists slash scientists slash geniuses. Facts over mere (dis)beliefs will win in the end.
Just another scammer.
The world has been for a long time engaged in writing lives of Jesus... The library of such books has grown since then. But when we come to examine them, one startling fact confronts us: all of these books relate to a personage concerning whom there does not exist a single scrap of contemporary information -- not one! By accepted tradition he was born in the reign of Augustus, the great literary age of the nation of which he was a subject. In the Augustan age historians flourished; poets, orators, critics and travellers abounded. Yet not one mentions the name of Jesus Christ, much less any incident in his life. - Moncure D. Conway [1832 - 1907] (Modern Thought)
Jesus is all myth! Seek the truth!
@@wowojeejee Hello?! Ever read Tacitus? Try actually watching this video. It features a doctor of history putting a nuke to your nonsense. There are many extant contemporary documents outside scripture that name Christ Jesus. Just because your head is in the sand doesn't change reality. Besides, do you realize how much has been found since 1907? Again, had you simply watched this video you'd be aware of this, including the secular ancient Roman census documents found that read almost word for word to the census decree found in Luke's gospel, etc.
@@patrickfoster4586 Pierre is not interested in any truth....just trolling Christian videos.
@@wowojeejee God bless you, I hope you come to the truth one day.
@Andy LH I'll just wait until you recognize the irony.
Superbly put. God bless you.
I subscribe to Veritas, was quite shocked when my none Christian friend sent this to me as we are always in debate. You must have struck a cord!! Hallelujah 🙏
The Great GK Chesterton said(of Modern Biblical/Scholarship!) that it is as if those who loved him the most understood him the least. Just Brilliant!
Simply brilliant! Hope there are more authentic discoveries since this was published.
This man is amazing! he nails the mark of great debates!
@Val O'Brien It does speak to our spirit and therefore is spiritual experience .
@@teresabaker-carl9668 A history teacher is supposed to get his facts straight, he doesn't.
If you want to learn the truth I suggest you study the Dead Sea Scrolls then the New Testament and the Gnostic Gospels. This way you wont be reliant on this mans skewed opinion or anybody else's.
Read it for yourself.
@@teresabaker-carl9668 I am sorry to hear of the illness restricting your reading Teresa. I am an atheist but I do believe Jesus existed but not that he was/is a God.
My criticism of Paul Maier is that he is telling his audience that these things which he is "proving", are not already believed by agnostics, atheists or whoever. This is not true. The people and places he mentions are already well known and it reflects badly on his admirers on this forum that they are impressed by him.
As for his mention of the evidence for Jesus in Josephus, I bought a copy of Josephus to see for myself and it is so obviously an addition by somebody else I am amazed that anyone can believe it.
On just one eight of a page he talks about Jesus saying "He was the Christ". He then goes on ( on a full page )to relate a story about a woman tricked into sleeping with a wealthy Roman. Surely a God would warrant more space in a history book than a sex scandal?
Sorry for being so long winded about this. Good luck to you Teresa.
@@almar1786 I agree. He said Jesus was lowered through a roof to tend to a paralysed man. Wrong way round!
Which book is Paul Maier referring to when he says its in the book he wrote?
so fantastic....make me want to stop what I do and become a historian...guess I have a new hobby....thank you for this video.
Very well presented! And very informative!
It's sad that we expect the Christians to follow the evidence when it comes to evolution and the age of the Earth, but some of us can't do the same when it comes to the historical Jesus.
There are no concrete evidences for evolution.
It's a hypothesis, and a bad one at that.
@@guarana6245 I hear you. I wasn't saying (3 years ago, keep in mind) that I even believed in evolution as it's commonly pushed by anti-religious types. I just think in general that if they *are* presenting evidence that they think Christians are hand-waving away, they're hypocrites if they do the same when it comes the historical Jesus.
What I find extraordinary is how people put so much effort into refuting a loving God that promises an eternity of love , happiness and harmony rather than asking why humans can't believe that fact and behave for the 5 minutes ( God's time ) to get the prize !
I'm 60 years old here in Zambia - Africa. I must admit you have satisfactorily explained the matter!!!
Well your first comment wasnt articulated very well. I meant... Id like to know more about Saladin from early first-hand sources who are non-Muslim. This is what happens when atheists investigate Jesus, they scrutinize to the utmost every little detail but will happily accept other historical figures on the say so of a wiki piece.
You said you'd like to know more about Jesus from non-Christian sources, so i gave you Bart Ehrman.
Nice to see Rocky's trainer has turned to God.
HAHAHAHA good one
I like the way he answers questions, him & the presentation as a whole. second time I've watched him,☆☆☆☆☆
I have seen "archaeology" misspelled a lot lately. Are there multiple spellings?
It helps to know what the apostles taught their successors about Jesus and His doctrine, which one can reliably do by reading the Church Fathers, e.g. in "The Church Fathers according to Topic."
Dr. Maier is a really dynamic speaker. What a great presentation!
Agitated, but full of nonsense and false conclusions.
I find him kind of smug and annoying.
If George Carlin was a History Professor lol
‘It is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no ground whatever for supposing it true’. - Bertrand Russel
If Jesus came to earth today and performed all that he did in his day the same people would still doubt him.
Roy Adamson: "Came to Earth"...from where? Where does Jesus live now? Name the planet.
@@timhallas4275 How old are you Tim? I'm willing to have an adult conversation if indeed you are an adult. I'm not trying to be rude but that is a very juvenile question, the kind one would expect from a child.
@@radamson1 You are the one who used the juvenile phrase, " came to earth". What did you mean by that? I was born to be a Christian Democrat...I am neither, because I've grown up figured out what's wrong with people's minds.
@@timhallas4275 How was it immature? We are limited here in time and space so I used a term that both you and others understood. Would it have suited you better had I said that " If Jesus had manifested himself on earth today and performed all of the miracles that he did in his day the same people would still doubt him?" Better now?
@@radamson1 How is that any better. What do you mean by "manifested himself". You still have to deal with the idea that he is somewhere other than the Earth, right? So it's a legitimate question: Where has Jesus been for the last 2,000 years?
Nice to see Dr. Maier found something to do after being my faculty advisor at WMU. 😀
I had ancient near east history 400 with him back in 1993 or 94.
where do we get the writings of Josephus? the oldest ones and/or the ones we use?
The women went to the tomb to prepare the body. How did they expect to move the stone and why would they expect to be able to get into the tomb and past the guards and stone seal?
I'm working on getting all of Maier's books. I didn't know what he was about when I got his Josephus about five years ago. I'd started Bible study again. And then his Eusebius. I forget where I saw his Pontius Pilate but I'm halfway through that. I've got 4 of his other novels. I struggle with my faith. But I'm wondering if someone can explain the sense of peace I get when I sit down and crack the Bible. For good or ill I spend most of my time on radical Islamic issues, which get me good and pissed off. When I finally sit down to the Bible study it's like a calm comes over me and almost like someone whispering in my ear, "this is where you're supposed to be. This is what you should be doing". Plus the added bonus of knowing which is "good" and which is "evil". I see Islam all over the scriptures. Especially when it talks of Christian martyrs and Revelation 20:4. I sometimes wonder if the Antichrist isn't so much a person as an ideology.
Larry Singleton I HEAR you. Pursuit of Truth. Holy Spirit...
It's both.
"My sheep hear my voice and they follow me."
Your comment here blessed me 😊
Because He is peace & love. If you don't kill His prophets & crucify him ! 70ad was worse than a holocaust movie
Paul Maier is great. I like listening to this guy
@Joe B, we are in agreement.
When you break an egg, it's really difficult to put it back together again.
Not even the King's horses can put it back together.
Why doesn't anybody know ?
How did we get the painting of Jesus as Borgeais' son (forgive my spelling)?
I have his book on Pilate. Could not put the book down!!! I recommend it to anyone wanting to know the history of Pilate and the history of ancient Rome.
+Monkof Magnesia
Do you mean Pontius Pilate, and which book?
Yes, I do, and the name of the book is also, Pontius Pilate.Even though it came out in 1968, from eveything I researched on Pilate, Maier's book has it all. That is to say, if you read his book, you will know all that there is to know on Pilate. I just looked it up on Anazon for you - www.amazon.com/Pontius-Pilate-Paul-L-Maier/dp/0825443563
I bought it recently. Can't wait to read it!
Roman contemporary history does not mention Pilate and Jesus.
@@wowojeejee Pilate is mentioned by Tacitus as the man who executed Jesus. Pilate is also mentioned in Jewis sources (Josephus Flavius) and in this lecture an archaeological discovery was mentioned.
All of the gospels are first century. You are crazy to say we have no first century accounts of Jesus
Agreed. All NT books from Mathew through Revelation were completed before the close of the first century.
It's like eating a steak. Eat the meat - throw away the bone.
Weren’t they about 70 and 90 AD, on? Any earlier evidence? I will have to go research this again, because I seem to recall one a bit earlier, yet, 60’s? but perhaps to err on the latter dates as minimum vs maximum time frame/periods, he uses the latest dates. I’m trying to give him some slack, but I need to go back and research. Revelation would have been in Johns lifetime, as would be first hand accounts. Is the discrepancy owed to more mass transcription and dissemination? Anyway, if that’s all we have to quibble with Meier over, I’ll give him a break. Would be nice to ask him about this, though.
@@myohmy451 end of the second century, it is assumed they are copies of copies of cpies therefore estimating 70 ad.. but we do nt have manuscripts dated before the 2nd century around 300 ad
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Wrong!
We have no first Century Gospel Manuscripts:
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I would love to see a debate with him and Dr. Price, or even Richard Carrier...
he’d be a 🍰 to them
@@350yardteeshotsmakesgolfez Carrier would eat that cake alive.
This guy’s cadence and voice modulation sound almost exactly the same as famous comedian George Carlin…
wow... wonderful delivery by an ancient history professor
Lol
An ideal history teacher, keeps it lively, fun fascinating, and knows his stuff alright.
great lecture. so many fascinating points. scholarly presentation.
Sometimes after listening to too many scoffers and unbelievers, you need a sermon like this to get you back on track...
He sounds like George Carlin.
He sounds like Casey Kasem to me!
I thought he sounded like Carlin too.
Carlin
If he was a perverted, foul-mouthed, dead atheist, yes.
Hahaha true!
😅You sounded just like George Carlin (comedian) at times. Lol!
Thank you for further enlightenment concerning the life and times of Yeshua, Jesus, the true Messiah. Until man's thirst for "sensationalism" reveals his depravity, his thirst can never be quenched with that which has the potential to transform him from a beast...into a masterpiece...
made in Yahweh's image.
✡Peace & Joy in Yeshua!🌴
Elise, aka Godgirl
Yahweh is not God, the life force. Yahweh told people to smash babies' heads against the rocks,+++. God is good, truth, beauty, freedom, positivity... Yahweh is the opposite. You've been tricked.
They think that Mary was his wife or lover because of the Gospels of Mary and the attitude of the disciples in the Nag Hamadi... written in Coptic Egyptian.
The story told and the way he did it shows his strong belief in history. The evidence is growing and so our faith.
Thor blesses you, he is the one true god, prove me wrong.
@@dragonspider8 thor didn't play apart in humanity documenting the year, or end cannabalism and human sacrifice in North, central and South America, or put the belief we shouldn't rely on our mere human brains and that God made a ordered universe that we can understand so christian scientists like Issac Newton spark the scientific revolution, or have a strong foundation of archeological evidence such as the city of Jericho... which the bible is the only historical reverence we have to that city existing, and archeologists such as Randal Carlson believe that it's the city of Jericho... exactly where the bible describes it.
This was very well presented, I enjoyed it, thank you.
Thank you for posting your opinion of the quality of his presentation. I was honestly worried I would have to be bored to tears to get great information. According to you, not true! YAY!
I have seenprof. Maier in person before at a Lutheran Church. He is extremely knowledgeable takes a very fair approach using archaeology geography history and faith. His history books are very good especially his one volume abridged edition of Josephus writings. However, I wish she was a little more serious and less goofy about this and presentations this is a serious subject the world is lost. If you cut all the corny jokes out the lecture would be half as long it would be easier to remember the major points. However he’s a very nice fellow. I think he was in his 80s when this was recorded six years ago I hope he is in good health. He was going on archaeological dig‘s up till a few years ago for sure
I love this guy! He is so funny and tells it like it is!! Love it! It's so sad that the world at large (Non believers of course) push and stretch and twist any and everything they can to try and attack the bible and it's claims. Fruitlessly EVERY time! I've been looking at evidences and finds all of my life and I am firmly a believer even after trying for many years to walk in the worlds ways of "Nowhere". Christ becomes more and more alive in my heart and mind soul spirit etc as I search for the truth and has revealed Himself to me in so many ways I can't begin to tell. (I know Crazy right??!! LOL).
HERE is Our Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@28:00 never mind that "middle earth" DOES FACTUALLY EXIST. It is called "mediterranean" and yeah, it directly translates.
so I guess it follows that the ring trilogy is all true.
see below for further commentary on whether PART of a story, confirms ALL of a story.