Seth Godin on The Game of Life, The Value of Hacks, and Overcoming Anxiety | The Tim Ferriss Show
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Show notes: tim.blog/2020/10/26/seth-godi...
Seth Godin (@ThisIsSethsBlog) is the author of 19 international bestsellers translated into more than 35 languages, including Tribes, Purple Cow, Linchpin, The Dip, and This Is Marketing. He writes daily at Seths.blog, which is one of the most popular blogs in the world. He’s also the founder of the altMBA and The Akimbo Workshops, online seminars that have transformed the work of thousands of people. He writes about the post-industrial revolution, the way ideas spread, marketing, quitting, leadership, and most of all, changing everything. His newest book is The Practice: Shipping Creative Work.
In this episode, we explore many topics, including:
The value of hacks
The magic of Hamilton
What learning to juggle and cultivating creativity have in common
The myth of quality
What Seth means by “Don’t steal the revelation.”
Focusing on generosity instead of anxiety
Choosing the ruleset of your own game of life
How Joni Mitchell eschewed the safety of the sinecure
What you would do if you knew you would fail?
Please enjoy!
00:00 Start
07:35 The hack and “The Practice,” Seth’s new book
09:21 What is quality?
12:40 “Magic” and Hamilton, the musical
16:49 “Perfection” as a cop out of taking risks
19:18 Writer’s block
24:59 The road less challenging
33:21“Process saves us from the poverty of our intentions.” -Elizabeth King
35:08 Authenticity and action
36:32 Attitude as a skill
40:47 Skills with a high ROI
43:15 Anxiety and the futility of reassurance
45:58 Ineffective teachers, effective learners
50:06 The gift of tension + positive constraints
01:06:09 On seeking joy
01:08:04 Choosing the right game
01:11:07 Fulfilling work vs. training for the outcome
01:16:14 The message of “The Practice”
01:19:06 Juggling
01:21:32 Counterintuitive can be effective
01:25:13 Cultivating creativity
01:26:49 Genre, generic, and Earl Stanley Gardner
01:29:40 230 chapters in less than 230 pages
01:33:01 Why Joni Mitchell alienated her mainstream audience
01:34:47 What would you do even if you knew you would fail?
01:35:54 Parting thoughts.
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Hey there fellow listeners, have some timestamps :)
00:00 Introduction
01:15 Sponsors
07:35 What’s the etymology of the word “hack,” and how does it relate to Seth’s new book, The Practice?
09:21 What is the specific definition of the word “quality,” and how does it differ from its generally accepted meaning?
12:40 What makes Lin-Manuel Miranda’s Broadway blockbuster Hamilton more “magical,” in Seth’s estimation, than West Side Story? Perhaps the real question: what is magic, and what does it take to make it?
16:49 Why hiding behind words like “quality” or “perfection” as a means of postponing action to avoid risk is a cop-out - especially these days.
19:18 What Isaac Asimov and Gary Gilmore can teach us about writer’s block and other common procrastinations.
24:59 Examining what we mean when we tell ourselves our work isn’t “good enough,” weighing the real reasons we might opt to take a less challenging path, what it sometimes takes to get us back on the right path, and why generosity doesn’t mean free.
33:21 “Process saves us from the poverty of our intentions.” -Elizabeth King
35:08 On the selfishness of authenticity, and why Seth believes the way we act determines how we feel way more often than the way we feel determines how we act.
36:32 If attitudes are skills, how do we sharpen them?
40:47 Skills with a disproportionate return on investment that entrepreneurs and creatives should consider cultivating.
43:15 On anxiety and the futility of reassurance.
45:58 One of the biggest mistakes ineffective teachers make, and what we should remember if we want to be effective learners.
50:06 The importance of applying constraints and boundaries to the learning process, and understanding the gift that tension gives.
53:14 How do you not steal the revelation as a teacher, but create tension so that people will plow ahead with developing a skill or learning something?
57:46 Examples of how the power of positive constraints have had an impact on Seth - and how they went from being a source of frustration to the core of his useful working life.
1:00:27 How would Seth usher a prospective entrepreneur through the process of deciding on constraints before they embark on creating some darling that they’re not willing to kill?
1:03:15 How can an entrepreneur or freelancer apply constraints when their plans are already in motion?
1:06:09 A nugget from The Practice: Seek joy. But how does one do this?
1:08:04 As someone who’s succeeded in zigging where others have zagged, How has Seth chosen the games he has played, and in what ways has this changed over time?
1:11:07 What provided Seth with a template to understand the difference between doing fulfilling work and simply training for the outcome? For that matter, what’s so bad about training for the outcome?
1:16:14 The Practice is Seth’s 20th book. What is he saying in this one that he didn’t get around to in the 20 before, and what should prospective readers hope to get from it?
1:19:06 How would Seth suggest someone literally learn how to juggle, and how does this process figuratively encapsulate the building of resilience necessary for thriving in an ever-changing world?
1:21:32 How the way I learned to swim - in my 30s - was similarly counterintuitive but completely effective (and by coincidence, the technique Seth uses to swim every day).
1:25:13 In what ways is cultivating creativity similar to learning how to juggle?
1:26:49 How does Seth separate genre from generic, and who was Earl Stanley Gardner?
1:29:40 With 230 chapters in less than 230 pages, which ones does Seth hope most resonate with readers?
1:33:01 How Joni Mitchell alienated her mainstream audience in order to find her smallest viable audience and, ultimately, do better work that didn’t train for the outcome.
1:34:47 What would you do even if you knew you would fail?
1:35:54 Parting thoughts.
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Thank you!!!
Lots of mind expanding moments I can apply as a content creator! My top takeaway was around pedagogy. Good teachers don't just dump everything they know on their students. Instead they reduce it to which materials would be best to enable the student to learn. Definitely going to read The Practice!
I appreciate the work that you do too. and there are lots of gems here I have made notes on, thank you.
Thanks so much for the blessings of gold within this podcast.
Fantastic, value-packed interview! So many golden nuggest to take away from this. Thank you Tim and Seth!!
Can't wait to listen!
An awesome episode. I believe i will listen to this one in future again.
Honor to be first hehe.
Starts 7:30. You're welcome
Cool
the first worthwhile "first" comment ever
@@the9file its on Tim Ferris's page afterall
@@thewonkyone6868 good point.
@Enrique Carmelo we dont, and I am sad you do about this.
Still one of my favourite TF episodes of all time - it has so much gold nuggets about how to learn effectively. And maybe more meaningfully covering why the things that we truly desire (not the ones we say we do) are all learnable skills.
Huge thanks to both Seth and Tim for this 🙏
This is one of the best interviews tim has done! I’m a new fan of Seth Godin
Seth is a god. We are not worthy fellow pleb.
THANK YOU TIM
I really like what Seth says about bad writing. Writing is basically like shooting hoops or lifting weights. The progress comes naturally if you put in the sweat during the process.
Recently finished This is Marketing, first book I've read by Seth and I'm hooked.
@Hector Gonzalez How are you doing and hope to hear from you?
Lydia las he’s good.
I always loving hearing conversations with Seth Godin.
He’s my Sherpa
Yes! A DEFINITE fan favorite!
Two greats here - the practice is what gives us the ability to bring a consistency that others can depend on or be inspired by. It is cool that Seth is on the way to 20 books, and does bring a relaxed nature to his presentation at all times. Giving soft skills credit is a nice element of his, such that it puts more in our hands, and gives soft skills the compliment they don't normally get.
Thanks for your continuing efforts, Tim and Seth.
Last day before 2021!!
The practice: excellent unusual book
NICE VIDEO!!!
When I think of what Seth is talking about as "magic" I think of Torvill & Dean. Bolero from 1984 Olympics Ice Dancing. I was holding my breath in awe... my mind saying it can't be this beautiful. What is your moment of magic in your life. Let's share. Post below!!
Listening from Hackney; feels quite strange lool
How do you come up with a unique and different concepts for your podcast sessions usually? It's mind-boggling TBH. No one's as good as you when I search online.
Different guests. How is it mind blowing?
35:00 was amazing omg
Just do it is also a traditional Zen teaching. Misattributing to a serial killer is good for a laugh but basically inaccurate.... not sure why I'm defending Nike but it just bugged me :P
Let them discover the revelation, I get that; I love discovering the revelation.
Did he tell his favourite book?
We're at 14:02 and STILL chasing the definition of terms...and if Godin missed the magic of West Side Story....not sure I can help redeem him.
21:32 I thought you said on impact theory with Tom Biluye that Neil Strauss told you that.
How long to get through all the ads?
💘
Never mind Seth G, the mushrooms are having significant impact. 🤷🏻♀️
1:20 fml that was funny hahahah
omg at first i was shocked , when tim said this is brought to you by porn hub, then he said just kidding so i laugh hard LOL
41:00
Why are to adds so long????
Hello :) "Lions Mane" ... s'gonna cause some veggie people confusion!
They are already confused.
If they hit 50, they'll have to add meat to their diets
(and accept the omnivorous nature of their ancestors and peers).
Eventually.
You effed up just do it. Dang.
actually i know why 39%
That’s why I prefer to listen to Joe Rogan...no adds never !
Have fun on Sputrify.
People shouldn't write a book because they want to write a book, but because they have to write a book.
one word: icaro de carvalho
Tim mentor me
Listen to all his podcasts and take notes. Then execute!
@@garrettmadison9863 mentor me Garrett
@@basecode06791 I'm young and don't have much professional experience. Find people who've done what you're looking to do and study their life. Then if you want one of those people to mentor you, they will only respond if you're already putting in the work and you're actually of service to other people. Trust me, help yourself and then people will want to help you. Fail fast and fail often, but learn from each "failure" and take notes along the way. You know what it is you need to do, just do it merely!
Garrett Madison 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Interview Jack ma
He's not the man you may think he is. I've been to his talks and studied him.
@33:20 quote 🌈🌈🌈🌈
Freakin ads for days smh
How does someone with such a major podcast have such terrible TH-cam engagement? I know people with 500 subs getting more views than you.
Because the vast majority of people listen on actual podcast platforms -in their 10s of thousands.
@@JAYDUBYAH29 He has 700k followers doesn't make any sense.
My theory is that people come to youtube for short popcorn type content usually. I need to take notes for this stuff.
@@just_in1375 That makes no sense, people listen to 3 hours of JRE a couple times per week and he talks with highly intellectual individuals on a regular basis.
great question. you think he would get more views just by subscribers accidently clicking on the videos. Maybe Tim is just algorithm unfreiendly.lol