One historical correction in this debate: "Muslims were dominant in India at the time of British conquest..." I think Maratha empire (NOT Mughal Empire) was the most dominant force in India when British started their gradual conquest/expansion....
@@surendrakulkarni2683 Yes Maratha empire in North and west, Sikh empire in Punjab Sindh and NWFP , The Bengal sultanate in the East. The mughals were only in the area of Delhi.
There were Muslim rulers in Bengal, Awadh, Hyderabad, Mysore BUT Marathas were the most dominant force in India without any doubt (despite being defeated by Afghans in 1761).
You have no idea what he went through!! Nobody I mean nobody can even imagine leaving their Birthplace/homeland and u have no idea what he and his family went through, as u r from 2nd generation!!
Most hindus in sindh were forced to leave Pakistan. Only tribals and bottom working class in sindh were either left alone or couldn’t leave. They had nothing of value which Muslims can loot!
Pakistan ki barbadi ka mere anusaar sabse bada karan h islam ko sabse upar rakhna or jhoothi history apni bachho ko padhana... Pakistan wahi bhumi h jaha pr achary chaanakya padhe the porasr sikandar ko tough fight diya tha... But inko gajnawi or gori jo akranta the inko puri tarah convert kr diya sirf unka hi gungan karna h... Pakistan ki bhumi to wo pavitra bhumi h jaha biswa ka sabse pahala university tha...
@@rkdixit1245 Vedas are respected but that doesn't mean culturally we are similar, we are similar in philosophy. In South we don't ask our women to wear goonghat.
Am a product of Indian education and also saw what education has done for small town folks. Christian education was what we got but we never forgot our Ram or Allah or Guru Nanak Devji or anyone for that matter….. but between the chappal at home and ruler in school we studied and over a period of time realised that if we study well caste, religion and everything in post 1992 india disappears and given my position of privilege it still does (per year i support 5 kids and each one of them have done something with their economic lives) ….. so education and thank god that everybody in India still believes that education is more important than everything else , has led to the economic uplift ment of millions in India and also the overall economic uplift ment…..
Completely agree with you. Im amazed these are the high level intellectuals of Pakistan. No wonder Pakistan is dying and will soon die. Only way out is to dissolve thier islam ego. Bcz they cant sit on the fence and expect everything to change for good. Doesn't work, has never worked.
@@jaibholenath6900bro my dad walked 5k each way to go to school even in knee deep rain water and this is in the 60s while his cousins played hookey. So if you didnt put in the effort dont expect miracles. The difference in lifestyle between my grandfather and me is like night and day. So feel bad for you but my parents sacrificed everything for our education and expected us to work v v v v hard. What did you, your parents and your grandparents do?
The country which came into existence on the hate of India and Hindus is the first fault line of Pakistan Education in Pakistan is dominated by Mullahs and Madrasas and not by science, mathematics, social sciences, engineering etc On TH-cam you have so many videos where very young children talk about only Islam, hate for Hindus, India, Israel etc This gives how educational programs are taught in schools- anything based on hate will not take the country forward In a society where women is treated as second rate citizens and have no rights- the country cannot progress. Any country which thinks they should live as per the practices of 14 th century in treatment of women is doomed to fail
@@9Rehankhan19 With the passage of time, the thinking of Hindus also changed. Only a few people of the old generation are left, who might be doing Hindu-Muslim discrimination, otherwise nowadays no one believes in discrimination. I am a youth of today's generation who believes in humanistic thoughts.
@@9Rehankhan19 Then how Come there is 25 crore Muslims in India? How come muslims are more protected in India than anywhere else in the world? Then why Mosques built in India are still safe & Sound? 😂😂😂😂 Chall be do take ke katwe.. muslims are hated all over the world because of your Superior mentality. Condescending attitude makes you intellectually poor.
Thank you so much for this discussion. I grew up watching politicians verbally and sometimes physically fight each other on tv shows. This kind of intellectual discussion is a breath of fresh air. I hope this thought-provoking platform grows and brings the necessary change in our society. I will definitely be a part of the audience the next time I am in Islamabad.
This 12 year old boy needs to be nurtured. I have seen him in some other The Black Hole programs, and have been very, very impressed with his intellect. Please do not let such a talent go to waste.
Great discussion that should be taken as a wake-up (or a shake up) call by all concerned ! I'm highly impressed & deeply touched by the openion of young man ( actually that 12 yrs old child from audience ) who feels education is the key to the betterment of masses & country ! 👌👌
Just noticed one thing from the whole show that there were no questions were raised by women's (I know there were only two women's were sitting in the audience). But i think they should have asked questions on gender equality and the important thing what are their views on burqa & hijab. I'm A Sindhi and I thank my great grand father that they didn't choose to live in Sindh-Pakistan, And also i think that why Pakistan is trapped in this situation is because we sindhi's had a great business mind and we focused on education which would be useful for Pakistan if they didn't have threaten us to either convert to Islam or leave Pakistan. So my message to the current youth will be stop assuming India as your enemy and focus on education(Not which is given in madrasa's).Hope the situation will change and in future we will be able to see a bright Pakistan.
Damn I couldn’t agree with you more. Love how u noticed that how many women were there. THATS SAD. IDK any Sindhis ( not even the Pakistani ones so I have to take your word for how you are describing Sindhis and how they were forced during partition, again don’t know anything about it) BUT that being said: Not every Pakistani sees india/Indians their enemies and yes I am firm believer in education. We are falling way way behind in education. I was sad to see how many children are missing their school due to flood. I do however want to bring it to your attention that not every Pakistani goes to madras. I have seen a lot of Indian comments. I am woman and I have gotten some religious education but never got to finish Quran. Mullahs that I have known Don’t know shit about religion. But thank you for an honest comment without being verbally abusive. Thanks 🙏
@@user-ajk I don’t want to answer to that since I have mo religious education. I only have some basics and that’s not enough. But no, my mother is an extremely religious woman and I remember she taught us when we were kids that “ Allah insaan ke haqooq maaf nahi karta, apne kar de ga”. The only interpretation I got from that was, insaan pehle ata hai Aur phir khuda”. I was a kid but I also remember whenever we used to go for shopping in Rawalpindi, she would tell me places that belong to Hindus and Sikhs. I never paid attention to it but my religious parents never taught us to hate non-Muslims.
Sir, with due respect, inspite of your great erudition and learning, one cannot help but discern subtle shades of the same myth which the rulers of Pakistan perpetuated / are still perpetuating since it's creation , that of the perceived superiority of the Mussalman over the Hindu amongst their citizens, peeking at times in your discourse ( 'Mussalman being the master and Hindus being the servile race when the British arrived in the sub-continent '). If that is still the thought process of the Pakistani intelligentsia, then it is no wonder our two countries struggle for peace even after 75 years of independence.
Fertility rate per couple in India is 2.1 and it is 2.9 for Muslims and 1.9 for non Muslims. Population will slowly stabilize. In Bangladesh it is close to 2. Pakistan has fertility rate of 3.9 per couple.
It's 2.6. Means more muslim in %age in future, thus more fanatics, threat to democracy and True secularism, laws like Shah Bano Halala law would be made. Hindus should embrace for a bad bad future.
I am surprised not much Pakistani are watching or commenting on this excellent presentation on Pakistan. Hope understanding this intellectual discussion doesn't intrest Pakistani. 🙏
@@abhinavsingh2032 that's why they didn't mentioned any general name specifically,, they are the ultimate source of corruption in that country,,, खैर भाड़ में जाए ये और इनके डॉलर खोर जर्नल,,,
Dr.Parvejji I am listening you since 4 years and feel grief & gloom for present status of your country. Pichle dino ek achchha comment kahi padne ko mila hai- Yadi 1947 mein sabhi Musalman Pakistan (east& west both) chale jate aur vaha ke sabhi Hindu India- Bharat aa jate to Aaj Bharat USA, Germany, France jaisi progress kar chuka hota aur Pakistan ( both ) Siriya / Somalia ya Yaman jaisa hota.
@@booksanimeenthusiast3802 caste system, in hindus was not rigid anyone could become brahman or chhatriye as per there ability but cristian missionaries and so called angrez changed it , u can watch saheb by prachyam if you want to know about how britz destroyed us yes us india and and pakistan both
@@booksanimeenthusiast3802 Muslims don't have caste/ community distinctions? Then what is Shia, Sunni, Ahmadiya, Muhajir? Then there's others like Sindhi, Balochi, Kashmiri, Pakhtoon etc. who are almost marginalized and only the Punjabi Muslim reigns supreme. "Kaafir kaafir Shia kaafir" k naarey q lagte hain Karachi mein? Do you take us for fools? Even if what you say is right, how is it that India is country miles ahead of Pakistan in literally everything other than terrorism? Hindus, despite all their 'caste discrimination' must be doing something right which you so-called great Musalmans aren't, don't you think?
@@booksanimeenthusiast3802 Learn About Caste System Properly from Hindu Religious Scriptures. The Way it has been practiced in Indian Society is different what Scriptures defined about it. **Anyone Can become A Brahmin (An Upper Caste Hindu) by his Deeds. One's Caste is not defined by his/her Birth but By his/her Decisions and Actions**
@@booksanimeenthusiast3802 Do we not have cast system in Pakistan? What is Kumhar, Mochi, Taili, Nai, Etc? India is 5th largest economy today and look where do we stand? We are trying to get a billion dollar from the world while they are investing in other countries. Stop embarrassing yourself please!
Fascinating discussion- full of wisdom & intellect. I not only enjoyed it but it was a learning experience. The current situation in Pakistan is not very optimistic but it's a good sign that atleast it's being discussed. Some important observations; 1. The way that 12 year boy was listening and he said is a good sign for future. 2. Interesting to note that intellectuals in Pakistan are advocating for secularism whereas in India seculars are now called 'Sickulars". 3. 'Jung se des ki tarakki nahi hoti' is widely appreciated now that's another good sign.
What an insightful, honest and intellectual conversation. As an Indian, this changes my perception of Pakistan. The situation seems dire, but I'm glad to hear there are people who think rationally and are able to look at the problems at hand objectively. Big up to the moderator, she really kept the conversation going and had her own very valuable inputs. Subscribing in the hope for learning more.
For most Pakistanis, all these issues raised here (SORRY to say) are Miniscule... Because they are waiting for "Khalid bin Waleed" to come along -- who will WIN over the whole Barr-e-Sagheer (the Sub-continent) and COMPENSATE for everything under Islamic Nizam!! For last many years, until even today this is believed to be "Amr bil Mahroof" Amir ul Momineen Hazrat Imran Khan Niazi.... Even If he fails, they will wait for someone else... Until then guys here at this program -- have all your such discussions (ALL EXCELLENT by the way), but the writing is CLEARLY on the wall... If (and this is a HUGE "If") this trend is reversed it'll be the equivalent of the coming of the "Anti-Christ" ...😉
This was a good discussion video. I don't usually watch such vids but it was great so I was sticking till the last min. Now I understand why my government doesn't even want to engage with Pakistan.
I wonder why there is no Pakistani comments when it's great informative video about Pakistan only. Cm'on guys share your thoughts, it would be healthy discussion 🤝
@@affanhassanxd4821 lol 😆 I follow our liberal channels, Pakistani are nowhere to be seen btw and nowadays nobody I'd liberal, everyone belongs to a spectrum, Pakistani don't watch such videos at all they will instead watch imran khan rally and speeches , or drama like ertugral , which shows your countries state of affairs ,
Fun fact - yaha par 70-80 percent viewers hai Indian !! Yahi 80 percent viewers Pakistani hogi to jrur kuch to change ata Pakistan ma mindset and fact and figures ma
Its indeed happy to see a young boy curious about the future of the country. May there be peace between the borders and I hope one day myself and my family including my small kids can visit Karachi,Islamabad ....and enjoy the food, music and affection from the people..I also want to plant some trees as well... I strongly believe a new generation will come who can settle these issues like a piece of cake and have no hatred in heart.
@@antarakmit4114 Not only him bro. But most of us Indians are like that only. Ask Bajwa and Sharif to fly together to Delhi and ask for help and see the response from our side whether it may be govt or people. U were us just 75 years ago so we don't have any hard feelings.
@@antarakmit4114 Isme chutiya bolne ki kya jarurat hai. Ur comment seemed as if u never came across any sane Hindu in ur entire life which made me comment that way.
They are same as others . They are just talking nicely .Still they didn't get the point . Mainly their approach since from the beginning is to take from someone then earn .Now they don't have power so they started bagging .They need to learn from Bangladesh how is coming along with india and they are doing well.
43:33 The reason why Pakistan will never develop They never want to hear the reality and always try to show off You must need such kind of professors to develop your country Respect for proffesor from 🇮🇳❤️🙏
i m from India and great fan of Dr Hoodbye sir. and listening the whole discussion very keenly. i salute u personaly u are so desperate for development of Pakistan. madam Sahiba putting his side so brilliantly seen fist time. Hoodbye sir u join politics and become education minister. like Jaisankar Prasad foigin minister of india
It is easier to get into harvord than IIT I suggest you all to see JEE ADV questions of physics , chemistry and mathematics 🙏🙏 Many toppers of iit easily crack the Americas toughest exams to get in to MIT🇺🇲 I love the thought of that Little child. education is the only thing which can give you the development and progress
Hoodbhoy sahab summarizes it PERFECTLY i.e "The MAIN crises for Pakistan is that there is NO CRISIS...!! " - for which they can get $$$ from Amreeka - like they did in the 80s (Zia) and post 9/11 (Musharaff)
I am not a muslim but watching this video I learned a lot about Pakistan. Very intellectual discussion. Still it is possible for Pakistan to get on the development track if change comes in the political structure and focus on people and development of younger generation. Let us hope for a change.
Such debates and interactive programs should be spread far and wide in Pakistan for the country to come to terms with reality and do course corrections. A growing Pakistan a peaceful Pakistan will be good for the world.
28:24, the brits took over from the Marathas sir. then remaining from the Sikh kingdom . Mughals were long gone and just present in a titular kingdom around delhi
Very good program! My compliments to ALL participants. Was actually expecting at least ONE discordant note from the audience on the basis of islam/Sharia etc etc
@@surendrakulkarni2683 Agreed,I have heard few of his interviews. He veils his fundamental Islamist mentality with his intellectualism. Even in this discussion he bought up Kashmir. Apart from the fact that paxtan has zero stake in Kashmir , what have these paxtani jokers given or done for their upliftment?
Always notice how majority of pxtani women themselves will never wear any hijab or niqab in such public discourse ( watch them during cricket matches) but they will advocate for such regressive mentality and enforcement on women in Afganistan or India.
Oh bhai wahan par logon ke pas paani tak nahi hai peene ke liye aur buhot log bhook ke shikar hue hain. Aap ko lagta hai woh 2 gante ke video dehkenge TH-cam pe? Woh din guzaar ke shaam tak ponch jaye yehi badhi baat hai. Main Pakistani hoon likin mujhe is video ki sari information pehle se pata hai. Shayed isiliye mere parents Pakistan chodh kar Canada shift hogaye the. Pata nahi kabh Pakistan azaad hoyga….
39:10 The Slum's name is DHARAVI... but its not a miserable place.. just visit it to feel the Entrepreneurial Energy of that place. Its a Thriving Business Ecosystem Just that it's sitting on some of the most expensive piece of real estate in the world. And FYI a 17 yr DHARAVI REDEVELOPMENT tender has just been sold to ADANI for ₹5000 Cr (Indian Rupees)
such a lovely discussion!... people of Pakistan deserved better leaders and Generals. I hope and pray that a Pakistani leader comes along who focuses on the Economy and less on Religion and fighting with neighbors. Pakistan People deserve a better future.
Scientific temperament is part and parcel of Hinduism. It emphasized equally on on the subject of gyan (spirituality) and vigyan (sciences). Hence, please don't equate Hindus as simply hunkering for British clerical jobs. Ayurveda and yoga were not British knowledge systems and such many more.
Can we somehow ask Pervez sir to move to India and become ours? Clearly not many people gives respect to gems like him in Pakistan, and I think Indians could make good use of his talent. (Though we don't have scarcity of talents here but the more the merrier). P.S. I know Pervez sir is a staunch patriot and is risking everything for betterment of his country only.
He might be a good scientist, but please remember he is still a pakistani. Pakistans biggest problem is their mindset . Even the most educated aren't able to get out of this bias towards India.
That 12 year old young boy is a wonder. He alone gave the formula for betterment of the Pakistan. If we think of the word education as moral plus school education, he is spot on.
Jab history hi wrong batao jaa rahi hai phir pakistan 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰 kaise progress karega, ek baat aur Pakistaniyon 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰 ki soch bahut chhoti aur nich hai chahe professor ho yaa amm aadmi 👍👍👍👍👍
39:29 Chcha ji dharavi redevelopment plan is started now☺️ And i appreciate your work sir to give some knowledge to Pakistanis although these kind of people are very less in pakistan 🙏
We as Pakistanis should do everything possible to educate our people. We need to ask ourselves what can we do as individuals to educate others and upskill ourselves.
You anyway read quran 5 times a day and you have IMAAAAN JAZBAAAA and KHUDAAA. I hope you all rot in the pit of karma which you yourself have sown thanks to the evil poisonous ideology called islam
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One historical correction in this debate: "Muslims were dominant in India at the time of British conquest..." I think Maratha empire (NOT Mughal Empire) was the most dominant force in India when British started their gradual conquest/expansion....
Wrong! Mughal Empire Was Only Limited To Delhi By That Time.
Totally agreed sir. You have pointed it out correctly.
Transfer of power happaned from maratha empire to british empire.. technically.. not mughal to british..
@@surendrakulkarni2683 Yes Maratha empire in North and west, Sikh empire in Punjab Sindh and NWFP , The Bengal sultanate in the East. The mughals were only in the area of Delhi.
There were Muslim rulers in Bengal, Awadh, Hyderabad, Mysore BUT Marathas were the most dominant force in India without any doubt (despite being defeated by Afghans in 1761).
I thank my grandfather that he left Pakistan in 1947 and chose India.
You have no idea what he went through!!
Nobody I mean nobody can even imagine leaving their Birthplace/homeland and u have no idea what he and his family went through, as u r from 2nd generation!!
Varna aajkal aap bhi truck ke piche bhaag rahe hote aate ke liye 😉
@@AkashKumar-1989 it's better to be alive than remembering your stuffs and neighbourhood and die.
@@aajjaayyuk Minorities ko marnay aur gaumutr peenay say behtr hy phr bhi.
Most hindus in sindh were forced to leave Pakistan. Only tribals and bottom working class in sindh were either left alone or couldn’t leave. They had nothing of value which Muslims can loot!
It is very encouraging to see Pakistanis hosting intellectuals to hold logical discussions such as these! Love from India
Hard to swallow that Pakistan can produce intellectuals
Agr India Develop ni hota to hum khbi asi discussion ni kr rhe hote. Love from Pakistan
Your comment is so funny 😂🤣
Pakistan ki barbadi ka mere anusaar sabse bada karan h islam ko sabse upar rakhna or jhoothi history apni bachho ko padhana... Pakistan wahi bhumi h jaha pr achary chaanakya padhe the porasr sikandar ko tough fight diya tha... But inko gajnawi or gori jo akranta the inko puri tarah convert kr diya sirf unka hi gungan karna h... Pakistan ki bhumi to wo pavitra bhumi h jaha biswa ka sabse pahala university tha...
Don't set the culture in the same scale... Every state in India has its own culture...
Yes and am amazed that with so much info available they still think India is culture!!!!
Language is different but culturally India is one. Vedas are respected everywhere.
@@rkdixit1245 Vedas are respected but that doesn't mean culturally we are similar, we are similar in philosophy. In South we don't ask our women to wear goonghat.
Radical Islamist destoy their country
@@chandrakanthveluri9860 You guys don't wear hijaab.
Am a product of Indian education and also saw what education has done for small town folks. Christian education was what we got but we never forgot our Ram or Allah or Guru Nanak Devji or anyone for that matter….. but between the chappal at home and ruler in school we studied and over a period of time realised that if we study well caste, religion and everything in post 1992 india disappears and given my position of privilege it still does (per year i support 5 kids and each one of them have done something with their economic lives) ….. so education and thank god that everybody in India still believes that education is more important than everything else , has led to the economic uplift ment of millions in India and also the overall economic uplift ment…..
U may have got Xian edu.......WE have not
Completely agree with you. Im amazed these are the high level intellectuals of Pakistan. No wonder Pakistan is dying and will soon die. Only way out is to dissolve thier islam ego. Bcz they cant sit on the fence and expect everything to change for good. Doesn't work, has never worked.
@@jaibholenath6900bro my dad walked 5k each way to go to school even in knee deep rain water and this is in the 60s while his cousins played hookey. So if you didnt put in the effort dont expect miracles. The difference in lifestyle between my grandfather and me is like night and day. So feel bad for you but my parents sacrificed everything for our education and expected us to work v v v v hard. What did you, your parents and your grandparents do?
The country which came into existence on the hate of India and Hindus is the first fault line of Pakistan
Education in Pakistan is dominated by Mullahs and Madrasas and not by science, mathematics, social sciences, engineering etc
On TH-cam you have so many videos where very young children talk about only Islam, hate for Hindus, India, Israel etc This gives how educational programs are taught in schools- anything based on hate will not take the country forward
In a society where women is treated as second rate citizens and have no rights- the country cannot progress. Any country which thinks they should live as per the practices of 14 th century in treatment of women is doomed to fail
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Are you saying Hindus don’t hate Muslims?
@@9Rehankhan19 With the passage of time, the thinking of Hindus also changed. Only a few people of the old generation are left, who might be doing Hindu-Muslim discrimination, otherwise nowadays no one believes in discrimination. I am a youth of today's generation who believes in humanistic thoughts.
@@9Rehankhan19 Then how come 25 crore Muslims living in India
@@9Rehankhan19 Then how Come there is 25 crore Muslims in India?
How come muslims are more protected in India than anywhere else in the world?
Then why Mosques built in India are still safe & Sound?
😂😂😂😂
Chall be do take ke katwe.. muslims are hated all over the world because of your Superior mentality. Condescending attitude makes you intellectually poor.
Happy to see the increase in the number of attendees. I wish that soon these lectures are held in a big conference hall.
Thank you so much for this discussion. I grew up watching politicians verbally and sometimes physically fight each other on tv shows. This kind of intellectual discussion is a breath of fresh air. I hope this thought-provoking platform grows and brings the necessary change in our society. I will definitely be a part of the audience the next time I am in Islamabad.
Dr.Hoodbhoy is a terrific speaker. I wouldn't be able to speak on such heavy topics at length and that too with this level of calm.
The little boy is the future of Pakistan. He was very attentive through the entire session. Great job buddy.
@Syedbakeruddin Bekar I hope it is the former. Hope the generals go back to their barracks.
Thank you for your kind words for my son Mr Ravi.
This is such GOLD! Love this kind and quality of conversations!!🇮🇳
This is trash.. they can't talk about their real history bcz that defeats the purpose of creating a separate country and everything they stood for.
Totally agree 👍
Funny to see comments only indians are getting exited about this.
Let the knowledge flow from all directions 😊
@shlokpaatni3229 they have long way to go everything is their based on lies.
This 12 year old boy needs to be nurtured. I have seen him in some other The Black Hole programs, and have been very, very impressed with his intellect. Please do not let such a talent go to waste.
Great discussion that should be taken as a wake-up (or a shake up) call by all concerned !
I'm highly impressed & deeply touched by the openion of young man ( actually that 12 yrs old child from audience ) who feels education is the key to the betterment of masses & country ! 👌👌
Just noticed one thing from the whole show that there were no questions were raised by women's (I know there were only two women's were sitting in the audience). But i think they should have asked questions on gender equality and the important thing what are their views on burqa & hijab.
I'm A Sindhi and I thank my great grand father that they didn't choose to live in Sindh-Pakistan, And also i think that why Pakistan is trapped in this situation is because we sindhi's had a great business mind and we focused on education which would be useful for Pakistan if they didn't have threaten us to either convert to Islam or leave Pakistan. So my message to the current youth will be stop assuming India as your enemy and focus on education(Not which is given in madrasa's).Hope the situation will change and in future we will be able to see a bright Pakistan.
In future, there will be no pakistan 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰😭😎😀😂🤣
Lauda bright porkistan 😂😂😂
@@Striker-jg9kv 😭😎😀😂🤣
Damn I couldn’t agree with you more. Love how u noticed that how many women were there. THATS SAD. IDK any Sindhis ( not even the Pakistani ones so I have to take your word for how you are describing Sindhis and how they were forced during partition, again don’t know anything about it)
BUT that being said:
Not every Pakistani sees india/Indians their enemies and yes I am firm believer in education. We are falling way way behind in education. I was sad to see how many children are missing their school due to flood.
I do however want to bring it to your attention that not every Pakistani goes to madras. I have seen a lot of Indian comments. I am woman and I have gotten some religious education but never got to finish Quran. Mullahs that I have known
Don’t know shit about religion. But thank you for an honest comment without being verbally abusive. Thanks 🙏
@@user-ajk I don’t want to answer to that since I have mo religious education. I only have some basics and that’s not enough. But no, my mother is an extremely religious woman and I remember she taught us when we were kids that “ Allah insaan ke haqooq maaf nahi karta, apne kar de ga”. The only interpretation I got from that was, insaan pehle ata hai Aur phir khuda”. I was a kid but I also remember whenever we used to go for shopping in Rawalpindi, she would tell me places that belong to Hindus and Sikhs. I never paid attention to it but my religious parents never taught us to hate non-Muslims.
What an amazing discussion, truly admire your efforts to telling the truth.
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I am an Indian, Bengali Hindu. I am really learning a lot from this discussion. Knowlegde sharing
Sir, with due respect, inspite of your great erudition and learning, one cannot help but discern subtle shades of the same myth which the rulers of Pakistan perpetuated / are still perpetuating since it's creation , that of the perceived superiority of the Mussalman over the Hindu amongst their citizens, peeking at times in your discourse ( 'Mussalman being the master and Hindus being the servile race when the British arrived in the sub-continent '). If that is still the thought process of the Pakistani intelligentsia, then it is no wonder our two countries struggle for peace even after 75 years of independence.
The reason paxstan is in perpetual rut.
Yes, superiority in terms of being able to beg like no other has done before. 😂
What are you trying to say? They are indeed experts- in begging..
ultimately he is a mulla what else you can expect from him.
True, indoctrinated hatred against Hindus shows their( avg Pakistani) inferiority complex in general
I feel to good to see that more Indians have watched this intellectual debate than even Pakistanis.
Pakistanis are busy watching.. “the thing” that’s not taught to them in universities 🙏🏾
Lol
U r right we Pakistanis are tapping on tiktok lives 😅
@@ganeshagarwala5480 what do you mean by "the thing"
@@harveyspecter111 I guess you have not watched the full video
Thanks Mr. Jinnha he divided Muslim population in to three India 🇮🇳 Pakistan 🇵🇰 Bangladesh 🇧🇩
Mucho Gracious Mr. Jinnha 🙏
The human cost of the partition was immense and still we have not solved it. CAA is a fake attempt to solve it.
Fertility rate per couple in India is 2.1 and it is 2.9 for Muslims and 1.9 for non Muslims. Population will slowly stabilize. In Bangladesh it is close to 2. Pakistan has fertility rate of 3.9 per couple.
Wrong facts for indian Muslims.
It's 2.6. Means more muslim in %age in future, thus more fanatics, threat to democracy and True secularism, laws like Shah Bano Halala law would be made. Hindus should embrace for a bad bad future.
Jab Allah bacche dethe hai tho lene mai kya harz hai
By 2100 all the population of South Asia will be half.. India population wil be reduced by 20% from current one..
@@salmanrasheed4366 u give the correct
I am surprised not much Pakistani are watching or commenting on this excellent presentation on Pakistan.
Hope understanding this intellectual discussion doesn't intrest Pakistani. 🙏
All the people sitting there are Pakistani. An intellectual discussion doesn't interest Indians also.
reading kuran is injurious to the brain cells
They're to celebrating taliban victory 😅😂
I am Indian but i learned lots from this podcast.
Wow never thought such good discussions can happen in Pakistan. Mind blown 🤯
Zabardas bari achi effort he aap logon ki thank you 👍👏💕
This is a group of courageous people, beyond doubt... Liked your work sir...🙂
Ask him earth ids flat or not in Quran, he wussies out by saying I don't know Arabic. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Too brave, but no too brave.
O courageous,,,what so courageous about them
@@dineshsharma6125 I agree ... ..
But then i suppose, one has too be diplomatic to keep his tenure in an institution in a highly radicalized society.
@@praveenpoonia301 They r talking ! ....
Near Rawalpindi ...🙂
@@abhinavsingh2032 that's why they didn't mentioned any general name specifically,, they are the ultimate source of corruption in that country,,, खैर भाड़ में जाए ये और इनके डॉलर खोर जर्नल,,,
Undoubtedly best Pakistani U-tube channel.
Dr.Parvejji I am listening you since 4 years and feel grief & gloom for present status of your country. Pichle dino ek achchha comment kahi padne ko mila hai- Yadi 1947 mein sabhi Musalman Pakistan (east& west both) chale jate aur vaha ke sabhi Hindu India- Bharat aa jate to Aaj Bharat USA, Germany, France jaisi progress kar chuka hota aur Pakistan ( both ) Siriya / Somalia ya Yaman jaisa hota.
How can be so sure about india progress when hindu still have caste discrimination.
@@booksanimeenthusiast3802 caste system, in hindus was not rigid anyone could become brahman or chhatriye as per there ability but cristian missionaries and so called angrez changed it , u can watch saheb by prachyam if you want to know about how britz destroyed us yes us india and and pakistan both
@@booksanimeenthusiast3802 Muslims don't have caste/ community distinctions? Then what is Shia, Sunni, Ahmadiya, Muhajir? Then there's others like Sindhi, Balochi, Kashmiri, Pakhtoon etc. who are almost marginalized and only the Punjabi Muslim reigns supreme.
"Kaafir kaafir Shia kaafir" k naarey q lagte hain Karachi mein? Do you take us for fools?
Even if what you say is right, how is it that India is country miles ahead of Pakistan in literally everything other than terrorism? Hindus, despite all their 'caste discrimination' must be doing something right which you so-called great Musalmans aren't, don't you think?
@@booksanimeenthusiast3802 Learn About Caste System Properly from Hindu Religious Scriptures.
The Way it has been practiced in Indian Society is different what Scriptures defined about it.
**Anyone Can become A Brahmin (An Upper Caste Hindu) by his Deeds. One's Caste is not defined by his/her Birth but By his/her Decisions and Actions**
@@booksanimeenthusiast3802 Do we not have cast system in Pakistan? What is Kumhar, Mochi, Taili, Nai, Etc? India is 5th largest economy today and look where do we stand? We are trying to get a billion dollar from the world while they are investing in other countries. Stop embarrassing yourself please!
Hoodbhoy
What a great assessment.
ہر شاخ پر الو بیٹھا ہے،
انجام گلستاں کیا ہوگا۔
Quality topic being discussed.
Thanks.
Sir , as always, great to hear from you
What an Insightful session 👏 Sir Irshad should also have his own youtube channel where he engage with his audience
Fascinating discussion- full of wisdom & intellect. I not only enjoyed it but it was a learning experience.
The current situation in Pakistan is not very optimistic but it's a good sign that atleast it's being discussed.
Some important observations;
1. The way that 12 year boy was listening and he said is a good sign for future.
2. Interesting to note that intellectuals in Pakistan are advocating for secularism whereas in India seculars are now called 'Sickulars".
3. 'Jung se des ki tarakki nahi hoti' is widely appreciated now that's another good sign.
What an insightful, honest and intellectual conversation. As an Indian, this changes my perception of Pakistan. The situation seems dire, but I'm glad to hear there are people who think rationally and are able to look at the problems at hand objectively.
Big up to the moderator, she really kept the conversation going and had her own very valuable inputs. Subscribing in the hope for learning more.
But Pakistan was not only innovator and pioneer but greatest entrepreneur in all the practicals of day to day life E.g. continuous learning.
For most Pakistanis, all these issues raised here (SORRY to say) are Miniscule... Because they are waiting for "Khalid bin Waleed" to come along -- who will WIN over the whole Barr-e-Sagheer (the Sub-continent) and COMPENSATE for everything under Islamic Nizam!!
For last many years, until even today this is believed to be "Amr bil Mahroof" Amir ul Momineen Hazrat Imran Khan Niazi....
Even If he fails, they will wait for someone else...
Until then guys here at this program -- have all your such discussions (ALL EXCELLENT by the way), but the writing is CLEARLY on the wall...
If (and this is a HUGE "If") this trend is reversed it'll be the equivalent of the coming of the "Anti-Christ" ...😉
Soo true😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂 wonderful succinct observation
wow, such a honest and insightful conversation.
This was a good discussion video.
I don't usually watch such vids but it was great so I was sticking till the last min.
Now I understand why my government doesn't even want to engage with Pakistan.
Terrorism is the bottom line.. engagement means another plan for 26/11!!
Watch Modi in 2019 - “we have wasted enough time on Pakistan. Lets move forward - we need to catch up with the superpowers”
Great initiative. Appreciated from India.
My god Pervez sir is such an intellectual , sensible,and humble person .I can listen him for hours... Love from india🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Happy to see indians are watching these kind of intellectual discussions of Pakistan more than Pakistanis .
I wonder why there is no Pakistani comments when it's great informative video about Pakistan only. Cm'on guys share your thoughts, it would be healthy discussion 🤝
Bhai, ye sab baate unhe samajh nhi aati, vo log madarsachhaap hai 👍👍👍👍👍
Yeh sab islam ke khilaf hai , le bol diya ab khush ho jaa 😂😂
dude no pakistani is interested in such discussion, only Indians watch such discussion of pakistani intellectual
@@rakeshbarman3486 Just like Pakistanis watch indian liberals videos, where indians mostly lack. You like our liberals. We like your liberals.
@@affanhassanxd4821 lol 😆 I follow our liberal channels, Pakistani are nowhere to be seen btw and nowadays nobody I'd liberal, everyone belongs to a spectrum, Pakistani don't watch such videos at all they will instead watch imran khan rally and speeches , or drama like ertugral ,
which shows your countries state of affairs ,
I had been listening to Stalwarts like Parvez Hoodbhoy. Infact i met him once in Delhi too. We love u Sir ❤️
Fun fact - yaha par 70-80 percent viewers hai Indian !! Yahi 80 percent viewers Pakistani hogi to jrur kuch to change ata Pakistan ma mindset and fact and figures ma
👍
Wishful thinking at best 😆😂
Pxatan ki janta se itni umeed kabhi nahi rakhni chahiye.
An excellent debate. With such forward thinking luminaries, the future of Pakistan has got hope.
Its indeed happy to see a young boy curious about the future of the country. May there be peace between the borders and I hope one day myself and my family including my small kids can visit Karachi,Islamabad ....and enjoy the food, music and affection from the people..I also want to plant some trees as well... I strongly believe a new generation will come who can settle these issues like a piece of cake and have no hatred in heart.
You have a very gentle soul Arun,
May god bless you and your family.
@@antarakmit4114 Not only him bro. But most of us Indians are like that only. Ask Bajwa and Sharif to fly together to Delhi and ask for help and see the response from our side whether it may be govt or people. U were us just 75 years ago so we don't have any hard feelings.
@@chandrakanthveluri9860 chutie main bhi indian ich hun
#hyderabadi
@@antarakmit4114 Isme chutiya bolne ki kya jarurat hai. Ur comment seemed as if u never came across any sane Hindu in ur entire life which made me comment that way.
no hatred? what he said on muslim rulers being dominant is shit af
It is good to see such kind of quality conversation among intellectuals in Pakistan,but their voice is minuscule.
Full egreation full emotion Dr perwoz hoodboy. Face read Pakistan true inteluctel love respect Dr shab
2:03:37
True words
I have never seen such an intellectual person in Pakistan
Love you sir from 🇮🇳
We have so many, but they are not found on youtube
The beacon of inspiration of these three intellectual ❤
I am surprised to see that Pakistan have such wise men. Good to know at least someone in Pakistan knows their problems.
They are same as others . They are just talking nicely .Still they didn't get the point . Mainly their approach since from the beginning is to take from someone then earn .Now they don't have power so they started bagging .They need to learn from Bangladesh how is coming along with india and they are doing well.
It means that you have been seeing only Pakistani' politics so far..😄we do have very intellectual academicians here
@@kishwarsakina5173 what's your view on kasmeer ? Show your intelligence.
very interesting programme, i watch with great interested.
Any Pakistan debate is incomplete without India😆😆.
One of the very few intellectual people who is still based in Pakistan. . Respect Dr sir a lot.
43:33
The reason why Pakistan will never develop
They never want to hear the reality and always try to show off
You must need such kind of professors to develop your country
Respect for proffesor from 🇮🇳❤️🙏
i m from India and great fan of Dr Hoodbye sir. and listening the whole discussion very keenly. i salute u personaly u are so desperate for development of Pakistan. madam Sahiba putting his side so brilliantly seen fist time. Hoodbye sir u join politics and become education minister. like Jaisankar Prasad foigin minister of india
Pak govt should look into it. hopefully u can go that extend.
It is easier to get into harvord than IIT
I suggest you all to see JEE ADV questions of physics , chemistry and mathematics 🙏🙏
Many toppers of iit easily crack the Americas toughest exams to get in to MIT🇺🇲
I love the thought of that Little child. education is the only thing which can give you the development and progress
When it was discussed in the way ?
Do all people from IIT who apply to MIT for masters get admission? No.
I accept with the economy expert for solutions to come out of crisis. Sensible person.
Great to see and hear this high quality standards of conversation but unfortunately after the 10 days only 6 thousand people watch this video
all these 6000 are indians only , pakistanis are joing TTP to do jihad
Very intelligent discussion 🙏We lndians love you people and want Peace, brotherhood and harmony with you all ❤️
Excellent discussion as always ❤️ Enjoyed it thoroughly 😊
Professor Parvez sb ko extra time milna chahye. He has got tons of knowledge.
Hoodbhoy sahab summarizes it PERFECTLY i.e "The MAIN crises for Pakistan is that there is NO CRISIS...!! " - for which they can get $$$ from Amreeka - like they did in the 80s (Zia) and post 9/11 (Musharaff)
Abhi they will be busy planning another 9/11 and blame it on Afghanistan 😂
پروفیسر ڈاکٹر ہود بھائی ! یہ استادوں والا انداز ❤❤❤
I am not a muslim but watching this video I learned a lot about Pakistan. Very intellectual discussion. Still it is possible for Pakistan to get on the development track if change comes in the political structure and focus on people and development of younger generation. Let us hope for a change.
So very analytical yet convincing... wish this understanding percolated well to the common mass rather than limiting itself to a confined room..!!!
Pakistan ka masla kya
La ilah illalah
You nailed it!
Imagine some Nomadic turk attacks you, does all the bad stuff, 600 years later you are their fan boys.
@@dineshsharma6125 I know what you are saying and I do NOT consider them as my heroes but most of us do and that is so crazy…..
@@mohsinafzaal7159 That’s The Biggest Problem.
Factual history is Need of this decade...
Such debates and interactive programs should be spread far and wide in Pakistan for the country to come to terms with reality and do course corrections. A growing Pakistan a peaceful Pakistan will be good for the world.
600 Madarse to 400,000 madarse in 75 years .Thats is the root cause of problem.
Yeah hilarious how nobody talks about the elephant in the room.
Very original debate on economic ills of pakistan. All the participant have grip on what ails pakistani economic problems.
Why no Land Reforms are introduced in Pakistan till now? Land Reforms are first step towards progress.
28:24, the brits took over from the Marathas sir. then remaining from the Sikh kingdom . Mughals were long gone and just present in a titular kingdom around delhi
Under the pension of Marathas .
Very good program!
My compliments to ALL participants.
Was actually expecting at least ONE discordant note from the audience on the basis of islam/Sharia etc etc
Ha ha, Punjab University (Lahore) was far better than Delhi University at that time. Do the comparison today again PU (Pakistan) vs DU (India).
Parvez hoodbhoy is jems of Pakistan
I like it sir🙏
Only because u have no clue about his islamic mindset..
@@surendrakulkarni2683 Agreed,I have heard few of his interviews. He veils his fundamental Islamist mentality with his intellectualism.
Even in this discussion he bought up Kashmir.
Apart from the fact that paxtan has zero stake in Kashmir , what have these paxtani jokers given or done for their upliftment?
Always notice how majority of pxtani women themselves will never wear any hijab or niqab in such public discourse ( watch them during cricket matches) but they will advocate for such regressive mentality and enforcement on women in Afganistan or India.
Shame on paxtan for not watching this.Even here Indians are kicking 😂😂😂😂
Oh bhai wahan par logon ke pas paani tak nahi hai peene ke liye aur buhot log bhook ke shikar hue hain. Aap ko lagta hai woh 2 gante ke video dehkenge TH-cam pe? Woh din guzaar ke shaam tak ponch jaye yehi badhi baat hai.
Main Pakistani hoon likin mujhe is video ki sari information pehle se pata hai. Shayed isiliye mere parents Pakistan chodh kar Canada shift hogaye the.
Pata nahi kabh Pakistan azaad hoyga….
I like perviz hoodboy because he is a intellectual of present age. I used to listen his lecture. But mostly due to lack of time i missed.
39:10 The Slum's name is DHARAVI... but its not a miserable place.. just visit it to feel the Entrepreneurial Energy of that place. Its a Thriving Business Ecosystem
Just that it's sitting on some of the most expensive piece of real estate in the world.
And FYI a 17 yr DHARAVI REDEVELOPMENT tender has just been sold to ADANI for ₹5000 Cr (Indian Rupees)
Slum is by default bad ! It’s sub par way of life .
What a dabet
Very knowledgeable
If I were a Pakistani I would have been in a depression clinic.
such a lovely discussion!... people of Pakistan deserved better leaders and Generals. I hope and pray that a Pakistani leader comes along who focuses on the Economy and less on Religion and fighting with neighbors. Pakistan People deserve a better future.
It's an honour listening to this legend
Unfortunately his speeches show that he is a muslim
I can't imagine the situation after 150 years of Pakistan.
Dr. Pervez sir is a vert great and humble personality 🙏😇😇 May God bless you sir🙏😇😇
Scientific temperament is part and parcel of Hinduism. It emphasized equally on on the subject of gyan (spirituality) and vigyan (sciences). Hence, please don't equate Hindus as simply hunkering for British clerical jobs. Ayurveda and yoga were not British knowledge systems and such many more.
@@SleepingdragonKongming Don't worry bro they are going acknowledge this as well.
Hoodbhoy sir ji main dil jaan se fain hu ager mere ko visa mil jai toh aapko dekhne ke main abi aa jau sir ❤❤❤❤❤. Allah Bless you sir
Can we somehow ask Pervez sir to move to India and become ours?
Clearly not many people gives respect to gems like him in Pakistan, and I think Indians could make good use of his talent.
(Though we don't have scarcity of talents here but the more the merrier).
P.S. I know Pervez sir is a staunch patriot and is risking everything for betterment of his country only.
तू तो सच में बहुत नादान है
@@praveenpoonia301 thanks
@@praveenpoonia301 lol..he really has no idea that that once a muslim always a muslim and jihadi aswell
He might be a good scientist, but please remember he is still a pakistani. Pakistans biggest problem is their mindset . Even the most educated aren't able to get out of this bias towards India.
@@msdolly6101981 200% correct you took my word
What is really admirable about The Black Hole is there is literally zero interruptions. People are allowed to speak and heard, too.
Despite being Indian, I have huge respect for Dr. Parveez Hoodboi, its unfortunate that India lost such teachers to partition.
We have better teachers though
Toh who is stopping you from going there and make them your teachers?
@@kanaka7552 indians get overwhelmed by chhoti chhoti things you know
@@Salmonellatyphi now madrsa chap is talking about education 😁
@@andhbhaktaurmadrsowalokima1826 means you??
That 12 year old young boy is a wonder.
He alone gave the formula for betterment of the Pakistan. If we think of the word education as moral plus school education, he is spot on.
Wonderful to see so many women in the discussion.
Prisoners of History LECTURES 😅
Totally confused what to do next ??
Both lecture ers are great legends
its sad that pakistani are not watching this, rather all i see are indian comments.
Excellent Program.
Jab history hi wrong batao jaa rahi hai phir pakistan 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰 kaise progress karega, ek baat aur Pakistaniyon 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰 ki soch bahut chhoti aur nich hai chahe professor ho yaa amm aadmi 👍👍👍👍👍
Yeah their self delusion would be hilarious if it wasn’t so tragic
Keep hosting these intellectual tasks please
They are taking efforts
But
Your people are still sending their kids to madarsa
You must take effort to come out of radical Islam and keep it as Personal affairs
Just like Indian, we see KARMA Not thr DHARMA
For us all are faithfull and no one is Kafirr
39:29
Chcha ji dharavi redevelopment plan is started now☺️
And i appreciate your work sir to give some knowledge to Pakistanis although these kind of people are very less in pakistan 🙏
Great man... Love from India sir 🙏
We as Pakistanis should do everything possible to educate our people. We need to ask ourselves what can we do as individuals to educate others and upskill ourselves.
You anyway read quran 5 times a day and you have IMAAAAN JAZBAAAA and KHUDAAA. I hope you all rot in the pit of karma which you yourself have sown thanks to the evil poisonous ideology called islam
With increasing radicalization, segmentation and without empowerment of females... no education could be possible in real sense !
Good program