How to use Seachem FLOURISH EXCEL the right way and get rid of BBA
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While liquid Co2 is a myth, IMO, Glutaraldehyde products like Seachem FLOURISH EXCEL and Easy Life Easy Carbo actually work very well against most types of algae.
I’m not a huge fan of using chemicals inside aquariums. But sometimes it seems there is no other way around. This video will explain how to use Seachem Flourish Excel the right way and how to kill BBA black beard algae easy and safe for fish shrimps and sensitive plants.
The trick is to use a bucket and treat infested plants only and not the entire aquarium.
This is also a very good method to clean off potential algae spores from your recent plant swap party.
Regular dosing is 5ml per every 40 litres (10 US gallon)
• The first day you dbl dose Excel (10ml/40 Liter)
• The second day you make a complete water change in the bucket
• The third day you repeat the dosing (10ml/40Liter)
• Let the plants soak for another 24 hours and you are good to go
First treatment weakens the BBA, second dosing really kills it.
Don’t forget to protect yourself, and be careful with Crypts and Vallisneria.
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I didn't know that crypts melt with it. Great bit of info. You just saved me some money Jurijs.
We want this types of video more..👍🏼
I figured this video today after I realised that seachem excel was burning my plants and all my plants were melting. I totally agree I had same experience of high dosage side effects
Great pro-tip, Jurijs, thank you! Please can you do more of these, perhaps around fertiliser dosing and your approach to balancing dosing levels, CO2 and light intensity? Cheers, mate.
Short and sweet, Great tip! I like the idea of using the bucket to prevent any issues with our main tank! 👍
I followed your instructions on two of my plants that had a heavy infestation. After a week back in the tank it was completely gone (save for a few leaves I removed) and the plants are thriving. It’s been 6 weeks. No black algae! Have reduced hours of light, water changes, use of Excel AND Advance for long term management. I cannot thank you enough! Eugene Oregon
you welcome, thanks for this feedback!
How do you use Excel and Advance for long term treatment? I ask because I have blackbeard algae in my tank, and I am looking for ways to manage/minimize the appearance in the tank itself. There are some objects and plants I cannot remove to dip them like in this video.
Great pro tip as always! Thanks for sharing
Thanks for the advice!
Revolutionized my approach to eradicating BBA. Using gluteraldehyde in my aquariums previously resulted in some type of collateral damage, fish. Plants and shrimp
I though t would increase the amount by 50% which I did on my last treatment. About 1/3 of the leaves were "skeletonized" . Looks like your 2X excel label amount is the maximum.
honest review and tip!!
i have had a hair algae problem on my anubius to a point where u was going to chuck them out i gave this a go… 6 litre bucket 2.5ml excel twice put them back in the tank within 2 daya hair algae completely disappeared from the plant… your a life saver thanks for this 👍👍👍
Good to know. Thank you Jurijs!!!
I use the equivalent EasyCarbo from Easylife wich ist available in most stores in germany.
The tip you mentioned is interresting and i will try it asap.
So far i used mostly the fogging method successfully but noticed that it CAN cause Bucephalandra to melt and will definitely destroy any kind of moss at direct contact.
Just my two cents 😉
Great video Jurijs! How do you advice treating crypts instead?
Great tips, thank you
Jurijs definitely a good tip.I ordered the upgrade of Cannon Eos 70 D/Eos 80D.I contacted Cannon Customer Service ,ref questions of what comes with the Eos 80 D,they said do the Kit special,it comes with everything except the Tripod ,a special that ends April 29th.It was 1,549.00.I think I better order it,before the special sale ends.Eventually I think I will invest in a Adg Tank,and order the Tropica Sand,and Substrate.How was your Easter?Have a good day,keep in touch.Tell everyone at Green Aqua I said hi.
Great tip mate 💚
Hey Jurijs, I use this technique & it works well.🤘
How much water do you add to a bucket & how much Excel do you add?
Hi Jurijs, great video. I have a tank that is about 7 weeks old with Taiwan Moss on driftwood that is now heavy with Hair Algae. I can easily remove the wood and treat it or would you suggest leaving it for now since it's a fairly new setup? I've read that an algae bloom may be normal in the 5-8 week period. I dose daily with Brighty K and Brighty Mineral. About 7 hours of light daily. Thanks!
Nice tips
Keep going boss
Ok this is going on my note list 👍
I have used this method and it worked. However, I witnessed a set back in plant growth. I believe the excel is very tough on the sensitive root hairs of the anubias plants. What is working for me now are Siamese algae eaters and I am rotating my anubias through an emerged grow bed to get them "revitalized" before returning them to my aquariums. My emerged growth rate is 5X faster than submerged and the plants adapt well to immersion
Hi Jurijs, excellent tip. I heard what you said about overdosing was it (CO2)? I got some stem plants and they looked amazing for 2 weeks, now some started to... not sure if i am giving too much CO2, but the drop checker is still "dark green", hence it does not seem that's the problem... any tips? cheers
Nice idea :).
all my cryps and anubias are removable since they are in pots or attached to rocks and driftwood. Seems like a perfect approach. What about removing the plants and spraying with flourish for say 5 minutes? I am trying this and would appreciate your feedback? PS: I cover the roots of the plants attached to rocks and driftwood to not damage the delicate root hairs that absorb nutrients from the water.
Great video like allways, can you make a video about RO WATER, one day. Or do you never use it?
Jurijs Jutjajevs thanks m8. I wanna use it to. But dont where to start. Or how to use it. A video would be great. 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Hi Jurijs, do you not recommend Flourish Excel at all, or just for killing algea
Hello again, and hi from Denmark. My staghorn is back 😪 IDid as you did vith carbon, and it did go away, so i stoppede using carbon, but now it is coming back. So i start again. So the question is, can is Use it every Day. Thank you, and have a Nice Day
Hello Jurijs, can this excel be used to treat Green algea as well.. currently I have Glossostigma Elantinoides, Honda Mini, Monte Carlo and moss but no fish in my 220 ltr tank. Can I then use it directly in the tank or you suggest a better way..
@Jurijs Jutjajevs do you use Seachem excel on all your tanks/scapes as part of regular maintenance?
Hello, Jurijs. That bucket you're using doesn't look like it's 40 litre (10g US) (1) so what size is that bucket?. (2) how much did you dose for that bucket size? (3) Does the double dosing have to be precise? What are the effects if slightly over dosing the double dose? (4) I asume it's also black beard algae unless you tell me otherwise. I also have a black fungus like growth appearing on rocks, on the clips of my heater and other places. (5) So what's your solution to my problem? Because in about week my pink flamingo crypt will arrive, and I don't want it to melt cause it's a rare plant as you know..
Thanks, Jurijs. Love these tips. So, if one wanted to use "liquid carbon" for a small nano, which brand would you recommend if any?
DIY soda and citric acid works really well. Much more stable than yeast and you can get enough pressure for ceramic diffusor. But a real CO2 system is worth the money.
What about overdosing excel when removing BBA from Anubis's? Would they melt?
Can I use the same method for moss (brown hair algae)?
Love the tip! Definitely recommended if you're not familiar with excel. Excel does contain glutaraldehyde and it's a biocide so it can do great harm!
For those interested, though, it *is* totally possible to safely dose to the tank. Flourish excel is great medium for holding homemade fertilizers.
I dose 5 times the suggested amount on a daily basis in all of my scapes and even in tanks where I've bred fish and inverts! Excel should not to be confused with medical grade glutaraldehyde any more than Liquid Bleach should be confused with industrial grade chlorine!
The only plant I've ever seen adverse effects on are Vallisnerias. My crypts grow great!
Jurijs Jutjajevs the main reason is that I store my homemade fertilizers in Excel instead of water, and properly dosing those means I use 5 times the Excel. Since excel contains a biocide it prevents mold and bacteria from growing in the Fertilizer solution I create. Homemade fertilizer saves me about $100 a year and requires very little effort. Plus I can't get Tropica, Ultum Nature Systems, or ADA fertilizers without ordering online. 😭
It's a bonus that it acts as an algaecide and helps keep algae at bay. Not why I dose it, though.
Excel only works as "CO2" when you're doing a non-CO2 tank and are not doing weekly water changes. That low CO2 environment causes plants to produce more "Rubisco", a CO2 fixing enzyme that help pulls carbon from the KH. This is the only time it works as "Liquid CO2". Constant water changes introduce CO2 into the tank and leads the plants to stop creating Rubisco, meaning your Excel is just algaecide!
TL;DR: I use it in my fertilizer to stop mold, so it gets added every time I fertilize!
People often latch onto glutaraldehyde and forget that mainstream fertilizers are almost certainly using a biocide of some form to prevent the Fertilizer molding. Biocide is biocide.
@@RainyHopes Man thanks for the education! I overdosed my tank with seachem flourish Excel thinking that it wasn't working. The next day there was a big red algae bloom. The water was cloudy and red. I can only assume that was all the algae dying off. I did like five water changes. It almost killed my rabbit snails. I had to move them to another tank pronto. anyhow, a couple days later the water was crystal clear and my plants were flourishing like crazy. I should mention that I used this in conjunction with Marcus fish tanks all natural fertilizer.
Will the plants be fine with no light?
i want to try this method out, but the problem is that bba has spread to the valisineria in my tank. can i still soak them in flourish excel? should i underdose, or should i just avoid it completely?
Gonna have to try this out....have an extremely bad staghorn algae infestation. Hopefully it’ll be relatively the same with BBA and Staghorn. If not, I lose about $6-7. So not really a big thing
GOOD👍👏😄
Hey, :)
Quick question -
I've looked and couldn't find any video for using 3% hydrogen peroxide for algae control/removal treatment.
Could you please let me know if you have such a video and the video name, or perhaps where I could get such info? TIA! :)
@@JurijsJutjajevs Hey, Thx! :)
Do you just rinse in water after
Tried this on an anubias that I have. I'll say it looks better, but there is still a fair amount of algae on it. Maybe it will continue to clear over the next day or so? We'll see.
Hey jurijs, can flourish excel fix staghorn algae? same treatment for Black bears algae on this video? My tank infected with staghorn algae. Especially my buchepalandra and anubias 😭
Oh yes, it works like magic against staghorn!!! After few days staghorn will turn red and fall apart
Great tip by the way i cant find flourish excel in the market. Any Solution i can compare?
thank you so much@@JurijsJutjajevs i have check that product on the website, hopefully i can find it in near retail store.. cheers
metricide
do you need to add light while dosing your plants and driftwood?
No 🙂
Aqui no brasil só uso produtos seachem.
Hi juraij, i'm a huge fan of your work but i'd like to suggest a much much much more effective way of dosing gluteraldehyde. If you pretreat your plants with a small amount of hydrogenperoxide (5ml/L of 3% H2O2) it will weaken their cellwall making them much more susceptible to any kind of algeacide (including gluteraldehyde) if you dose the h2o2 and let it sit for 30 minutes and then directly dose the gluteraldehyde it will 100% kill all bba without causing any damage to the plants or requiring multiple doses. I've succesfully treated my tank with this method several times (although the method varies slightly when treating your tank) and it has always evaporated my BBA.
Edit: to add i've treated my tank directly succesfully multiple times without any die off (even my crystal reds were fine) but i 100% aggree treating your plants in a bucket is THE way to go!
@@JurijsJutjajevs i use medical grade 2.6% gluteraldehyde and use roughly 3 ml per 40 liters. This is equal to 5ml of excel (1.5% gluteraldehyde) per 40 liters of water. So just the standard treatment dose, lower doses can work due to the weakened cellwalls but it depends on the previous treatment scheme of your tank and if the algea have build up resistance to gluteraldehyde or not.
Additionally i would discourage using medical grade gluteraldehyde unless you have experience working with chemicals. Regular excel works just fine.
As an additional edit; if you can a 50% water change after the initial H202 contact time of 30 minutes can help get rid of excess H202 helps in protecting more soft tissue plants. Although i've personally never had issues, extra safety measures always help :).
Although this method is a good solution to treat BBA, ONLY one problem with your method... I'm not about to uproot my plants in the tank so would a boost in CO² injection be as effective as using Excel?
What if I just take the chance it doesn't kill my anubias and just dose the whole tank for 24 hrs ...all rocks are glued together and next to impossible to remove the rocks and driftwood without breaking something.
How much water was there in the bucket?
It actually says to do a 5ml dose as your first dose then there after to dose every 5ml for every 50 gallons every day or every other day.
This is my last resort for killing this crap in my big tank..I have battled it for awhile and I have done water changes,watched how much I feed, watched my lighting..(I have 5 loaches and 7 guppies in my 50 gallon) and I was able to eradicate it from my 5 gallon planted tank but I feel like it was the java ferns starving the algae not me 😂 I'm really REALLY hoping this works for me. I got a really good deal on a 250ml bottle off Amazon for about 7 bucks.
👍 Could you tell us what kind of family plants 🌱 support this? Bucephalandra ok... any others? Anubias?
Jurijs Jutjajevs Thanks 🙏🙏🙏 Going to test it as soon i can 😉
from my exp don't try it on : mosses, parvula. Buy yourself 2ml syringe , turn off your filtration, spot dose on affected plants/rocks/wood and leave it for 5-10 min. Works wonders:P
@@JurijsJutjajevs agree but... depends on aquascape you got. Sometimes you can't take plants out then spot dosing is best :)
Hey does this work for green spot algae on buce??
Yes it works for all kind of algae
if i had 1000 lph canister eheim 2217 using on my 60p tank, on full open valve, is that overkill? question is can this big flow from outlet causes some algae?
You can try and see what happens, depends on your scape and fish if they like it
algae doesnt come from flow, always from wrong balance in nutrient levels
@@JurijsJutjajevs hi Jurjis, is seachem excel has ability to kill green hair algae also?
Sir can I use API co2 booster instead of saechem excel as I have API Co2 booster.
I don't know API products, but if it contains Glutaraldehyd, its should work in similar way
Can’t take my carpet out the tank though brother 🥲
Enter : the Siamese Algae Eater 👌🏼 next level Bba Killer
I want to double dose too but my seachem excel is 5ears old and I used one time 5years ago. Is it safe or it became highly toxic ?
I don’t know
Hi bro can i use it on eleocharis acicularis for staghorn algae ?
works with most plants. crypts and vals are more sensitive to it, so test first on a small portion
@@JurijsJutjajevs thank you bro !!!
Can I use this process with bba effected s.repense????
you can, but keep the staurogyne reopens there not too long
@@JurijsJutjajevs okk sir thanks
At last, someone adviced what i suspected from the beginning. Thats why im afraid to use it inside the aquas
Although it can be used inside aquarium, but at risk causing damage to sensitive plants. However it works well either way if you know what you do
@@JurijsJutjajevs im more worried about the fishes. If you have to use gloves and has to be very careful...imagine drop it on the fishes...
thanksssssssss much... in arabic... khateer shokran, in tagalog ... maraming salamat for the tip.... now i feel more empowered beating up these nasty bba without harming my fish
Can show how to Kill Green Hair and Staghorn Algae with Excel? TQ
Did it kill for you?
@@randallho3587 green hair NO... Staghorn 50%. i did use H2O2 mix and tried. Kill better.
@@Ian_81 screw me then. Im figthing green hair algae
@@randallho3587 Depends on what plant you have. You can try blackout for 3 to 4 days. As for me i removed most of my fire moss, take some time salvage some good ones and wait for it to regrow.
Could I use excel with my Uv sterilizer?
I don't recommend using UV 24/7 only when you need it
@@JurijsJutjajevs what is the main issue with the usage of an uv-steralizer? Eliminating nutrients? ...and/or whatelse ? Thank you Jurijs
you say to use this differently then the package recommendation, I find that truly odd
I think you should have worn safety Glasses to stress the point. Please "Wear" eye Protection,if your sensetive to chemicals wear a protection layer over clothes and remove after use.If you had to use poor plants and treat what would your preferred way to treat plants Jurijs. I use currently use bleach,via bucket or Hydrogen Peroxide via syringe's both methods are also hazardsous in use.
Is "seachem Flourish", the same as "Seachem Flourish Excel"?
My bottle only says "Flourish" on it
Different
@@JurijsJutjajevs thanks
What about carpet plants?
Yeah I've got hairgrass that got bba I've trimmed it but the bba just keeps coming back
@@JurijsJutjajevs thanks for replying jurijs! I don't dose any iron separate I only dose the Aquascaper Complete Plant Food. Would you recommend dosing less of that daily?
My bba is growing on the gravel :(
I wanted to watch this video just to see how you get the damn cap off the bottle, but you just skipped that part LOL
I don’t remember if it was a safety cap. Squeeze and rotate or press down and rotate usually does the trick with safety caps
@@JurijsJutjajevs I finally found the trick to opening it. I used a rubber hammer to whack the cap down, and after that it worked like a charm!
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How do you manage to spell Excel wrong when it's written on the bottle.
Seachem: Creates a product to introduce a source of bioavailable carbon into an aquarium. Aquascapers: So I saw on a forum it is designed to kill algae
So it acts as a form of co2 right? Because I keep hearing its kills alge but my tanks and shrimp and are heavily planted and lights are on a timer so I never have algae
Yeah so I was searching this topic, and this came up in seachem's official forum:
"This claim, that Flourish Excel™ is Gluteraldehyde, is a common one that is simply not true. I cannot speak for any other companies that may or may not use Gluteraldehyde, I can only speak for our company and our product. While structurally similar, Flourish Excel™ is NOT a gluteraldehyde product."
I wonder if it is legalease to avoid litigation, because this product really does seem to get rid of algae. Could be a coincidence because CO2 supplementation gets rid of algae too 🤷♂
if your going to remove them from the tank why not just bleach them
bleach? 😳
alga 4k 😂
Why the distracting music?
Thats gona kill high id buce. 24hrs is too long.
1:33 to skip rambling
thanks, can you do the same to all my videos please? 😜
Not a very realistic way to treat plants really,,,can't see most people pulling there plans out of the soil to put in a bucket
Have u ever considered the real "pro-tip" is not growing BBA