China's Lost Generation
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Most people acknowledge the gap between age groups. Each generation has it's differences. However, under Mao's China, people born in the 1950s, and 1960s had a particularly different upbringing.
Schools were closed, and madness and violence spread amongst the youth, or Red Guard, who were encouraged to denounce and even beat intellectuals and teachers.
From there, they learned a very different attitude compared to the normally confucian culture that China typically had.
Today we talk about why the younger generation calls these people, "The Lost Generation"
Living in China for so long, we would like to share some of the comparisons that we have found between China and the west, and shed some light on the situation.
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mao just didn't want any threats to his power from educated people with resources. I'll say what you can't.
It's not his personal fault he was a great guy. Half of the world was communist countries during Mao's time,how can you westerners blame it all on him being evil???
I believe he did the best he could enforcing ones ideas always cost lives
@@ajriver8131 he was a lunatic dictator who enjoyed privileged, murdered 80 000 000 people and transformed his country into a post apocalyptic Orwellian nightmare. By cross cultural standards he was the most evil politician in history.
@@ajriver8131 - Mao was just a great guy, (if you were slaving away in a Chinese labor camp with barely enough to eat). Very little difference between him as say Lenin or Stalin. But people believe the propaganda of him smiling on posters and billboards.
You idiots think starving 60 million fucking people was worth it? That destroying thousands of ancient sites was worth it? That forcing children to spy on their parents was worth it? would you read something NOT from the Chinese government? The entire world knows about this.
Mao was a real monster. And Pooh is his little goblin peon.
Poor China... always the same story.
Yes it looks like Mao never left..
@Long Nose Tribe to be fair, china breaking and re-uniting kinda is their "gimmick" in history lol
Always the same story? Wasn't it better from the early 90s to the early 2010s?
Sorry if you're not qualified to answer. I am assuming you are.
"goblin peon" *wheeze*
Isn't Pooh part of the lost generation? That explains a lot.
Poor China, yes, but poor the rest of us as well, for handing so much industry and power to the mafia party.
Why am I so addicted to these videos
Cuz there educational
@@MoejiiOsmanTV Yes very and completely without pretense.
@@Harry-wb7uv Same, I'm not even interested in China that much.
Lost generations yea can understand what it was life without gadgets internet but thats the way every nations lost generation would have been like living between two different worlds but people who were born in a more liberal democratic society even the people of this middle generation didnt stuckup with the mid lifes but obviously it doesnt seem same born in a highly rigid one political social states they seems to be more affected ones by the way unable to move away from mid lifes
Im an addict as well
My college Chinese teacher was a part of this generation and she essentially described a concentration camp where all the laborers would fight over the easier and indoor jobs like cooking for the farm. Her father was a doctor and was therefore considered upper class enough to be brought to the country side. Once removed from their home in the far northeast, they were brought down to the hilly regions further south (I think maybe Yunnan or Sichuan). Her father educated her from the age of 6 I believe. She said that every day, all the other kids were allowed to play, but she had to sit and learn. She now lives in America with much of her family all thanks to her brave and intelligent father's foresight of these very negative aspects.
I remember reading a western historian back in the 1980s, I forget his name at the moment, but he said at one point "We will never fathom the depth of chaos in China during the Cultural Revolution". That was a time when the elite, the leaders, the professors, the doctors, anyone with technical knowledge was sent to the rice paddies. The result being the entire country was in the hands of incredibly inept people...
This was the time that Ai Weiwei's father, who was a party member in Mao's inner circle, was banished to a northern province close to the Mongolian border. He was sent there because as an esteemed poet, he had written a poem about a gardner who he criticized for only taking care of the roses, ignoring the rest of the flowers. Mao took exception to the poem, and banished him. This was the environment that Ai Weiwei grew up in, living in a salt cave. The result was that Ai Weiwei taught himself to build furniture, and became a master of it. When Mao died, his father was permitted to return to the cities. Ai Weiwei at that point told his parents that he was leaving the country, and he moved to New York City. In that city, he contacted all the major players in art and philosophy. He witnessed the televised Iran/Contra Hearings in Congress, and was fascinated by a government that was criticizing itself. He was in NYC for like a decade, until around the time of Tianamin Square, his father became ill. So Ai Weiwei returned to China, and was able to be with his father for the last three years of his life. At that point his father was quite esteemed within the culture. His father told Ai Weiwei, "This is your home, don't be polite", speaking of toward the government. So the government asked Ai Weiwei to design the Bird Nest Stadium for the Olympics, which he did. But then he began to publicly criticize the government for using the Olympics to hide its oppression. That of course went over like a fart in church...
Can you hook me up with ai Wei wei ?
My father in law is from the "lost generation". He has taught himself everything. He can pretty much fix anything. . build his own home, and studied engineering on his own and helped plan and design major retail shopping center layouts by the time he retired. He's an example of the type who learn to adapt to any situation and improve their lives greatly.
Daniel Tynan you just described Jacque fresco, what a great man
That's very cool.. but people like that are the exception. Just like how someone like Einstein or Hawking are the exception. Average people are, by definiton, average. Mostly they'll go with the flow, and if that flow is to 'fuck school, do what you want'.. then that will be what shapes a society and the general mindset of people.
This is why it is very important for a/any government to carefully consider what sort of morals and values it wants to instill into its population, if any. I have no doubt that Mao had the best of intentions for the Chinese people/country (or at least the parts/people of it he deemed important), but obviously hindsight has taught us that intentions don't really mean much.
Being able to triumph over adversity and teach yourself things in a society where school and learning is considered bad is commendable.. for that person... but throwing an entire generation off the cliff as the proverbial lioness does with her cubs is by no stretch of the meaning a 'solid' governing policy.
Daniel Tynan true ,a lot of them taught them self
ayporos You sounded super smart!!! Are you a Greek and going to law school or at least majoring in history?
No, no and no. :)
I'm hardly an expert on anything, there's much smarter people out there in the world.. but you won't find their opinions or insights in a TH-cam comments section. :)
I have a friend here in the states who went through the Cultural Revolution. He came from an urban, educated family, so of course, he was among those sent to the countryside to work. But he kept his head down and did his best to study on his own. When restrictions eased, he as a man in his late thirties came to the US to get a college degree. He is kind and friendly, although he suffers from some PTSD. He is no "evil uncle".
"Educated" is the key point. Most of them didn't get that chance at that time. The rate should be extremely low.
UPCA lol go away government worker
毛主义共产党 - Maoist Communist Party communist fucker. Please don’t believe in the evil or support them. The evil is the ccp
@@MCP-MZT God you sound like 人民日报。 Plenty of "ordinary Chinese" suffered tremendously during Maoist time and today under ccp, not that anyone else would do necessarily better as leader, but please stop tooting the powers be, it does no good for the "ordinary people"
One of my subs sent me a link to this channel. Im sad that I haven't known about y'all sooner. Fantastic videos and channel. It suddenly gives me a new goal in life to travel to other countries and rent a bike to explore the country like this.
They spent some life there. You can't just explore a country with bikes
@@kishananuraag They've explored more of it than the billions of chinese people who live there lol. If you can't explore on bikes what the fuck can you explore on?
My mom and dad are both from the lost generation (the 50s and 60s). But fortunately, they got admitted to university and studied and worked and had me. Then, they moved to the United States, probably because they thought the United States would give them a better life than they would have in China. Mom and Dad would often talk about the sufferings they experienced in their childhoods and during the Cultural Revolution. That explains why they also don't want me to do blue-collar work or experience hardship.
Love the video! To add from my own experience, we have friends in Shanghai who were very affected by the cultural revolution. He's in his late 50's and very well educated and successful. But what I remember from a recent visit to Shanghai was being introduced to a colleague of his who was turning 80, and being told that they went to university together. They were at university together because the cultural revolution had ended, and they could seek the education they should have had. The thing that struck me about that was the effective compression of 20+ years of youth. And the fact that the 80 year old lost 20 years of his life. From what I think are the most important & formative years. It just seems so very sad.
Tim Elley imagine hundreds of millions of them
how is not going to college "losing 20 years of your life"
you know jack shit about china
@@modshroom he doesnt litterly mean losing 20 years of his life. he means those people missed out on something that is really important to many people. a great education where you can learn whatever you want should be available to everyone and its sad that its not/wasn't for them not because they made that choice for themselves but because that was choice was taken from them. thats whats sad about it. no need to get so mad he didnt do anything to you.
I really like this format of podcast. The fact that you are two bikers exploring China and having these conversations that give valuable insights on your perception of this wonderful country's culture and history is awesome. I've lived in China for close to three years now and I really appreciate this content. thank you very much for uploading these!
I have a couple of comments -- First, read the novel "Balzac and the Little Chinese Seamstress," by Dai Sijie. It's about a group of teenage boys of bourgeois parents who are sent to work on a collective farm during the Cultural Revolution. A terrific story.
Next, when I was in Shanghai about 6 years ago, I went to an exhibition of a famous photographer who was active over many decades. A large section of the exhibit were photos from around 1966 (the start of the Cultural Revolution) of stadiums full of young people "celebrating" their impending deportation to the countryside. It was a startling moment. I was with my Chinese girlfriend, who never really said much political about China (at least not while we were together), but did mention that a whole generation were ruined by being uprooted from the cities and sent into the fields. Her own father was a party member, so perhaps the impact wasn't the same for them.
Nice commnet! I still think the Chinese officials pay them for these videos.
originalhgc That’s what they just said.
Dalimil Matoušek you can’t be serious..
Xiu Xiu:the Sent Down Girl is another such movie.
Read "Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China" by Jung Chang. (The book is forbidden in China).
Winston is being brutally honest here and that is great. Love this video. I hope nobody will feel offended here. Just a minor correction: the college entrance exam was resumed in 1977, so people born after the 1966 were less affected educationally by the Cultural Revolution. The younger generations' attitudes towards the world are also different, relfecting China's economic strength when they grew up. As a society, China still lacks much diversity, and the internet cannot cure that (make it even worse sometimes) . The youngest ones abroad I've met are in general more confident and better educated, but some of them are also more nationalistic and less repectful to other cultures, thinking their ways of life are the norms of the world. I hope their attitudes will change when they are older.
True, wish my country could become better and better.
Adûnâi wait what, you are missing the point e
Kenneth Tao Winston’s honesty, I believe, is a result of being from South Africa and experiencing the things that he did there. Frankness is a strong character trait often confused with negativity. I appreciate his honest take on things.
different races of people live in different countries for a Reason. It's funny that it seems like a sin for anyone to disagree that all races (exceptjews) should mix together. I've watched western multiculturalism since my childhood in the 1970s. Neither China or Japan are interested in mixing, and Japan preyed on China for centuries, so it's ok for Chinese to not like them. That's just the raw truth, and it's not more correct if they pretend to 'like them' all of the time (as they might briefly during a business deal).
He'll disappear for a few weeks then he'll suddenly be apologising on television for hurting the feelings of the chinese people.
Thank you for having the balls to talk about such a heated topic! Appreciate it a lot!
My parents grew up in this time and they have told me many stories, in great detail. What actually happened was actually much worse than what they talk about in the video, but I'll cut them some slack cause they are not historians and they did not experience it themselves.
God Bless the United States of America
Some people really do not know how good they have it here
this way of recording a video while driving together is amazing
besides the arrogant you mentioned, its more like they were broken at time when peolpe turn their back on each other for self-protection. Student reported teachers, husband reports wife, for "anti-communisim" behavior or disagreeing with political leaders, etc. I think that generation is less secure and has less faith in humanity. They get caught in the "suvival" mode in the rest of their life.
Yes, Mao created a living hell that destroyed a whole generation -if they survived.
Sounds like what the u.s. is becoming
no 你这是错误的认知
@@xueqiangguan7454 yes it is
@@androidtexts6948 agreed. The republicans have a disdain for expertise and science based data. It's considered elitist. They also like to keep people uneducated and misinformed the better to keep them voting against their best interests.
Oh my god, THE DANCING AUNTIES. I know exactly what you're talking about, those ladies scared me as a kid.
This is the first video I've watched on your channel and I really like it. Two gents, well spoken, one Brit and one American. Both giving decent opinions, while just cruising around and having a chat. Well done
TG7 Desert Rat thank you. I actually realized this watching a different video. I've always had a hard time distinguishing some South african accents from some English.
I used to work for a Chinese man who was part of the lost generation, and this video helped me understand a lot about his personality and he acted the way he did.
Welcome to China !We can not guarantee that everyone loves China, but we will still warmly welcome every guest !!
王帝 u are the best
Renzhi Wang No, YOU are the best! No, you are the best. NO, you are the best! ...here's your 50 cents. Why, thank you!
王帝 they have lived in China for about 10 years.
THAT IS GOOD!
I PERSONALLY PREFER CHINA TO JAPAN!
Well, you see alot of bad buildings. But this video showed some DAMN NICE architecture !! :) Don't forget every country has it's bad sides.
I am ADDICTED to these videos, they're just so WHOLESOME
My wife is from Haerbin. At about age 14 she was taken from her home and from school and sent to a collective farm about 2 hours drive from Haerbin. She was there for 2 years and was only allowed to go back home to her family twice a year for short visits. She rarely talks about it but I was very curious and have asked her about it many times to try and understand what she went through. We married about 6 years ago when I was 62 and she was 54. She loves living here in America and is such a sweetheart. We have been very happy. We love going to China once or twice a year to visit family, relatives and friends.
My grandma forced our entire family to believe that falling asleep with your belly button exposed will make you sick.
Taiwan had a generation of turmoil, where lots of people either had no access to education or could afford a Japanese education. My aunt doesn’t know any mandarin, and I have never really talked to her. My grandparents are extremely Taiwanese, except their mandarin has a shade of Japanese accent.
In chinese school, it annoyed my teachers that I would refer to tampons, kitchen sinks, genitals and armpits in Japanese.
The Lost Generation has their fair share of problems, but the new generation has a lot of little emperors and that may be even more terrifying.
Also to add a a little historical detail. You talked about the Cultural Revolution being part of the Great Leap Forward. As I understand it, they were actually 2 separate periods separated by several years. The Great Leap Forward was of course a huge disaster, and Mao was criticised for it and was to some extent marginalised within the Communist Party. I think Deng Xaoping was was involved in that. Mao initiated the Cultural Revolution as an attempt to reassert power. They were definitely connected in terms of cause and effect, and there certainly aspects of the Great Leap Forward that were repeated in the Cultural Revolution.
Correct. Actually, after The Great Leap Forward, Liu Shaoqi was the man who criticised him most and a lot of people in the party support Liu. Mao was furious and initiated the Culture Revolution. By the way, he used the most comfortable tool he has ever used in the past: mad people live at the foot of the social ladder.
You did some research about china. Respect from me
Exactly. The great leap forward was a disaster. Mao got marginalised. Even in the party. So he started the cultural revolution to purge the party and higher echelons of society. There are you tube videos about it.
Great drone shots , loved it when the drone was following you riding. Reminded me of switching the camera view on GTA
I love your little adventures guys, listening to you talking about daily life in China is always very interesting specially since you have a inner view on what's happening there. Thanks a lot, keep the good job!
Winston, have you visited Cambodia? The concept of the older generation who grew up with Mao's red guards, cultural revolution and great leap forward are even more evident as the generation who grew up with Pol Pot.
Pol Pot went further with the de-urbanisation of Cambodia, turning Phnom Penh into a ghost city. Further, families were completely broken up and send to disparate parts of the country. "Justice", is you can call it that, was severe and generally rapid against the opponents of the communist takeover, and also against professionals, intellectuals and city workers.
I have found that the younger generation of Cambodians are generally nice people who want a future rather than being dragged down by the horrors of the past. Yet the generation who were sent to forced labour camps and prisons are the hardest, least caring people I have ever met. Any sense of trust in others, concern for the welfare and feelings of other people has long gone and isn't coming back.
I think in both cases, there is some anger at the perceived luxury, freedom and indulgences of the younger generation, and this is manifest in the self-centered lifestyle and virtual negativity toward everything.
When you loose your trust to one person, it may be regained. When you loose trust in humanity, that's usually too much to come back from.
Appreciate your mentioning of Pol Pot and the atrocity that happened in cambodia, Mark. I am an indirect victim of said war as i have never met my grandparents or the relatives from my father side. They were eventually lost as the soldiers chased and dispersed them further to the country side away from the city. Some died of illness and hunger during the long journey or so i have heard. Luckily my grandfather was wealthy before the war and my father and a couple of his siblings were sent to south east asia and the west to study etc so they escaped the same fate. I have no hate for the people that did this as it's already the last generation but i will not forget it.
Astor, I'm glad you turned out okay. Pol Pot directly and indirectly killed abut a third of the total population.
It is funny. in the west, there is quite a big interest in Marxism and variants of it such as cultural Marxism or relativism. The idiots pushing for Marxist dogma in the west need to study some history of Eastern Europe, the old Soviet states, central and South East Asia and central and South America, and travel to these places, see and hear what happens in communist and Marxist states.
In the last century, communism directly killed conservatively 100 million people, and I suppose that I am often dismayed that in 2016, people seem to think that such models are a good idea.
yeah i turned out ok i guess compared to those still living in the country and have to face the dangers from the last generation. There is just not enough resources to clear the land mines.
While in the west, guess people love the nostalgia so much that they adopt backward thinking now. Wanting to go back to the old ways than exploring a new direction.
Well, there has been a big dump of politically correct nonsense after the recent death of Castro. Fidel was NOT a nice guy. Like the rest of the communist leaders, he was a brutal dictator. Nostalgia is fine but what I'm hearing now is a series of false narratives. I sometimes see Mao promoted as a folk hero in China, yet he killed tens of millions. Sometimes it is like Winston Smith in 1984, re-writing history to erase the past and create a new understanding.
Just found this channel and marathoned most videos, great job, very interesting topics and informative discussion!
This video in particular got me very interested in learning more about The Lost Generation. But also, I'd love it if you could discuss the differences between mainland China and Taiwan. I'm very interested in learning more about the divide and differences between the two countries. If you or any other viewers could recommend other such high quality channels on Taiwan, I'd be very happy! Keep up the great work guys!
These "hanging out and ride" discussions videos are awesome.
Absolutely true. I couldn't appreciate more that my grandparents actually went to university and had the opportunity to travel aboard, but I literally have no words to say when it comes to talking to other people at their ages.
You guys are gaining subscribers like crazy. Last night you had 26k, now you have 29k.
It's an amazing channel, and the drone shots are amazing.
they are all over my recommended videos
This channel is more professional than their individual channels.
true that, i'm one of them
Did you not see the saxophone guy bit? These guys are pros!
One of your best episodes, thanks guys!
Matthew is always delightful, I really like Matt's analogy and 看问题的角度👍 you guys always notice and bring up unique perspectives
This is one of your most important ADVChina videos.
Your videos bring nuance on my views of the world, keep it up!
more like the great leap backwards
Very interesting episode! I think you should follow it up with some inverviews with locals about this time, what they remember from it, how they think it has affected them and what they think of their society now.
Watching this video really got me thinking about some of my own experience and it really scares me a little. Guess I did inherit certain bullshit habits from my older relatives. Now I just need to keep reminding myself to behave logically in certain matters.
Booker Chen they are cool,wearing white tanktops,smoking spitting n playing cards.I like them.
Booker Chen commentators don't like working class ppl.Its not about cultural revolution working class Malaysian Chinese have the habits they talk about.
The basically count is higher than usual: 1:56 5:09 5:14 5:42 6:07 7:07 7:23 10:57 11:23 12:06
This is an awesome series guys. Keep it up! I keep this on at night, good food for thought.
There's just something so original and so cool about blasting around these Chinese roads and alleyways on bikes and doing commentary and making video. It helps make it all the more timely, realistic and natural.
You guys are awesome, you make such entertaining videos, the hair on the back of ym neck always stands up when i hear the intro, because i know im about to watch a good video. I got promoted at work and the new responsibilities are very stressful, i find this good for taking my mind off things. Cheers from a drunk canadian. :)
You don't hear the hate for Japan here in Taiwan. Japanese language is a big part of the Affiliated Language Programs, and Japanese culture is highly adored. Of course Taiwan is not China..... ask any mainlander...... :S
And yet Taiwan was conquered and abused by Japan. It shows people in Taiwan have maturity and can adapt. The CCP seems to want to punish any version of tolerance
This has to be one of the best motovlogs I've ever seen. Just few days ago I was discussing this with a buddy, since I filmed 20 eps of non-typical motovlog clips since I got my bike...and I didn't publish them because every time I would see a "famous" motovlog clip it would be that same inane mindnumbing gut wrenching cringe shit, yall know what I'm talking about :D I really don't know where I found the link to this channel, but it's fascinating, keep doing this guys and you have just "inspired" (lol) me to finally go live with my stuff and go in a direction (similar to yours to be honest) that I didn't think was possible. Big salute!!
hey do it man, i'll subscribe!...if it's not cringe worthy haha. so it's called motovlog huh, i'm fresh to this idea but 2 dudes riding around their city exploring while talking about interesting stuff like cultural difference is just awesome. I also realize that there has to be a 3rd rider flying that drone...right?
I'm glad my grandparents and parents always respect me doing anything I like to do, even though sometimes they don't like what I do, but they always support and trust me. Really awesome video, you explain those really accurate! Keep up the good work!
This is a really good clip, spot on.
Great videos! I was in China way back in '87, but just for the summer, and it's interesting to see how much things have changed. I really like how you combine your conversations with riding, it's very...oh, C-Milk, by the way, your indicator is on.
I am very interested in this topic and i did some observation myself. And your view point about the lost generation is very interesting. In short, in my opinion, China right now is ruled by the lost generation. And that's not good at all. I hope Xi will follow his predecessors and retire after 10-year- rule without any drama. And due to the lack of high school education, there are something missing in this lost generation. But my observations scope is quite different from you guys.
However there are several mistakes in the video.
First, You got confused with Great leap forward (1958-1960)and culture revolution (1966-1976). Great leap forward was mainly focusing on economy. But Culture revolution is more complex with huge scale. And "up to the mountain and down to the countryside" movement was started in 1955. however it's not fully compulsory until 1968, in the period of culture revolution. Before culture revolution, rich kids had been sent to countryside. But the impact is limited and it's more like political reeducation to the rich kids. After 1968, most city boys and girls have to participate this movement with rare exceptions (Only one kid can be allowed to leave in the city to prepare for take over his/her parents' job, the rest had to go, or just join army. ) And this caused the whole lost generation and other tremendous consequences.
Second, It's cool to be poor, this is actually right. But During the culture revolution, Only Mao and Communism ideology is not allow to be criticised. Other party leaders all can be challenged. Even the president of China Liu ShaoQi has been attacked by The Red Guards, and eventually dead miserably. There are some opinions says it's culture revolution taught Chinese how to think independently.
Yeah, when I was teenagers I hate Japanese very much. But now i am end up living with one lol.
But yeah, it's nationalism education. and also Japanese government isn't that friendly towards China. and there are conflict of interests between China and Japan.
Thanks for elaborating a bit on this topic.
Hard to see an objective comment like this one under this vid.
"There are some opinions says it's culture revolution taught Chinese how to think independently."- this is very interesting. The whole culture revolution is still a freaking disaster.
I still remembered when I argued with my high school history that learning history is useless in front of the class. And hating Japanese type of stupid things.
And I have to add that lost generations will continue until we can face those parts of the history. We 80s, and 90s even 2000s will still be lost generations as long as we are cut off from that part of history and our traditional culture.
Hu Sun how dare you do that in the class? it is still quite rude to interrupt. the manners of Chinese ppl still need to catch up with Japanese ppl. when I went to japan, I felt shameful that I am not aware of the manners.
MVD-UPCA † I feel very sorry for you and I sincerely hope that one day you are able to overcome your delusions.
@@MCP-MZT youre brainwahed
Thank you for making these videos. They had helped me put things into perspectives as to why my parents act the way they do and made me realized that I'm not alone in dealing with this massive generation gap.
These older videos are great, can’t believe it took me this long to watch them
Love your channel, and love the song. Great job guys!
who sang the intro and outro songs.
I want to stay awesome, but i can't without it.
I love this channel but that intro music is my least favorite thing about it.
Strideo1 It's a Drum and Bass tune. I get ya. Not everybody like that.
Hey, I am Chinese, living at Chicago now. Watch your episodes often. I also like observe things and riding motorcycles, used to ride in China for a 1 year and here in Chicago for a 1 summer. Wish I could join you guys and give a native Chinese guy's opinion regarding many topics.
Carrying on an intellectual conversation while riding bikes, how cool can it be! Very insightful observations. It's amazing you can converse intelligently and manage driving at the same time.
I'm Brazilian, living in Japan for 5 years, and I realized that here in Japan, I face almost the same difficulties and challenges that you guys are talking about. Japan and China has A LOT in common....
(sorry my bad english and keep doing good videos like that!)
I lived in China and japan and there is virtually no similarity between those countries. If I wanted to find 2 countries on the world that are most opposites, I would chose China and japan. But yes, there is also a lot of racism in japan, but nothing compared to China. So it should be the other way around, „the only things that those countries have in common is the racism and xenophobia“
@@swlk9996 I think xenophobia was the ground breaking for me... that’s why I get away from Japan and Asia as whole
This is one amazing channel! Very enlightening.
I know this probably wont be seen because this video was posted so long ago, but I would love for you guys to show what a Chinese school is like. Or maybe what University is like? Great video either way! Cheers 😁
Drone shot 13:50 looks fantastic. Love the framing and the way it follows you
The Lost Generation is straight Gangsta.
I can tell you that as an "ethnic Serbian" who moved to the USA at 5 years old and grew up here, this attitude the Chinese have towards the Japanese is exactly the same nonsense that my father and other Serbians have tried to instill in me about Croatians. "They're all bad, they hate you, etc".
Sadly when i visited Croatia a few years ago, i did feel that resentment towards me and my family simply because the locals knew we were Serbian.
You wanna know the difference between the two? It's simple, Serbians are Christians who like to put big black hats and robes on their church leaders. Croatians also like big hats and robes but they have a more flamboyant style with white and gold designs. Look at the pope.
Poverty is the problem. When you are poor you are always look for someone to blame. If they have a different religion, then that seems to be justification enough to commit genocide in many places.
ive studied china's history in university and it is fascinating hearing your present-day insights. Love it!
I really enjoy watching you ride through the city or countryside and chat about China. Awesome!
The bad manners of the "lost generation" is sadly perpetuated when they are the grandparents raising their grandchildren with the same attitudes. As you say in the video, the represent the very worst of China. I also support your statement that the younger generations are frustrated by them. Many of my Chinese friends are ashamed of the way perceptions of China are tainted by the attitudes and conduct of the lost generation.
nice drone clips.
SUPER interesting vids, guys, I lived in Qingdao for 3 weeks in 2009, it was really interesting, as I had worked with Chinese engineers in Michigan and they taught me a bit of their language, and I learned more from books, the internet, and MEET UP groups, and had a Chinese gf in the USA, it is always interesting to learn about other countries.
A great lesson in Chinese history
Thanks guys this clears up a few things for me
Mao sent his country way back, I can only hope that the new generation can usher in a new prosperous era for China. As much as I dislike modern China's practices, I still hold out hope for them to bring them back to a country of honor.
The gap between generations is typical of a developing country.
all those people will die off in 30 years lol
5+ videos in and I think I'll be subscribing. Top quality videos, interesting commentary, and all in all a unique channel worthy of future viewing. Great work guys and I hope you keep it up.
Thanks mate and welcome to the ADV family
You guys have such awesome videos, always enjoy them, even though Ive been living in China for a few years, I feel I get new insight or an interesting perspective, and also feel my own ideas or feelings/frustrations validated by your own.
Keep it up you two!
Dude, those overhead shots, how did you guys do it while riding motorcycle?
Leifenguard DJI drone actually follows you, really awesome technology.
I dunno men. The irony is that this generation helped build China to its current state. China was open for business in the1980s, a time when these people were at their 20s, 30s or teens, ie. the beginning of their working lives. They went on to design bridges, build high-rises, etc. Maybe that's why they feel the entitlement and therefore being arrogant. Anyway, very good topic. Stay awesome.
Thank you for all the insight. I would have NEVER known any of these things about china’s culture. Very interesting! Love your channels
THANK YOU SO MUCH! For all your youtube work. Between serpentza, laowhy86, and ADVChina, I have learned a lot. Dating a Chinese woman for four years, everything great, really in love. Then her mom moved in. A product of the Lost Generation. The relationship has gone down hill every since, and is on it's last leg. At least your videos have helped me understand why they are the way they are.
I was born in the USA and I still feel like I'm part of "the lost generation" :-)
Good video, not everyone has guts to speak out publicly like that in China. I'd like to add one point.. That Cultural Revolution/famine/Mao-generation inherited a whole spectrum of different mental disorders, and it's somewhat a consensus in psychology that there's a great change parents pass their mental health problems to their children. Add a super successful 1-child policy to this and it's not so difficult anymore to understand why Chinese society is as sick as it is.
It is not suprising that Chinese are so self centered, when they have no sisters or brothers and so few aunts and uncles. They have never learned to share.
interesting.
when Chinese eat same dish of food. Disgusting! they share the food.
when Chinese share their book. They don't respect other people's achievement.
Fantastic video. I love the educational aspect you guys are both trying to create. I know next to nothing about China, but because of you and your experience, I can now say I know a little bit about China
I'd love to see a question/answer clip from people actually from China, where maybe you ask them viewer questions and have them answer them
Keep up the great work fellas
My new favorite youtube channel!! I want to see others in other countries drivng around on bikes like this, this is amazing
Evil aunties and Evil uncles!
I think you are awesome. I agree with most of what you guys talked about. But all is changing. Making history just takes time. It still sucks for the younger generation because they have to deal with all those nonsense from family and from society. What sucks more is that not all people from the younger generation shares the same values. Well-educated, open-minded, and bright younger generation has to try to work with people whom they don't share values with.
I hope I can live to see China as a developed country.
The way you say "correct" gives me life
i am from macau and i think this is a pretty good video.
The whole discussing while riding bikes is cool and the content is cool too
In my opinion, China's efforts to "westernize" is shallow. Every country's situations and cultures is different, so they should not try to just jump to copying USA so quickly. To be honest, they were much better the way things worked originally, and then the uneducated ruling party aka mao and his buddies did stupid stuff like overpopulate and mess with environment. That is the only reason there are problems feeding everyone there today. They thought that excessive births of children would work and it obviously didn't. When the communists started there was maybe 0.4 billion people and now they have 1.4 billion. This is all because of the uneducated idealists of that time.
is there a third person? who's flying the drone camera?
Hobo G Chinese government. It's there to spy on them.
The drone has an Artificial Intelligent neuron brain chip that is capable of following people they know.
Thank you so much, Winston and Matt, for this video. I have never fully understood the reason for the displeasure of growing up under the generation above me nor have I dared to use words like ignorant and arrogant to describe the teachers I had to deal with in my Chinese school days. You have no idea how therapeutic and elucidating this is for me. Keep up the good work guys. Much love from San francisco.
Incredibly informative channel. Great format, intelligent dialog, but above all, visually stunning. Fantastic job.
This episode is true.
i wonder, who is flying the drone?
never mind i have seen it in the ghost city video. though i'm still curious how you go about it with filming. does he like constantly follow you around, or are you actually following a fixed path and acting like you are carelessly driving around, or are you going back to film certain drone shots and edit them in to make it look like its at the moment? love your work guys
DJI can do this
I always love the introduction music!
This is a quote from a study explaining the difference between western and African/middle eastern/Asian societies ", Individualist and collectivist cultures can be characterized as fol-lows. Individualistic cultures emphasize promoting the individual’s and his/her immediate family’s self-interest (underlining individual rights, not responsibilities), personal autonomy, privacy, self-realization, individual initiative, independence, individual decision making, an understanding of personal identity as the sum of attributes of the individual, and less concern about the needs and interests of others.
As examples of typical individualistic societies, Australia, Great Britain, Canada
Collectivistic societies, on the other hand, emphasize loyalty to the group (while the group in turn cares for the well-being of the individual), emotional dependence on groups and organizations, less personal privacy, the belief that group decisions are superior to individual decisions, interdependence, an understanding of personal identity as knowing one’s place within the group, and concern about the needs and interests of others. As typical collectivistic societies China, Hong Kong,India, Japan, Pakistan and Taiwan and middle eastern countries.
For example, Singh et al. (1962) compared the values held by Americans, Chinese and Indians. They found that Chinese ranked highest in society-centred orientation,whereas Americans ranked highest in self-centred orientation. On Edwards’s per-sonal preference schedule, Americans scored the highest on the need for autonomy.
It seems reasonable then to suppose that people with an individualistic cultural background will have more private self-cognitions, and fewer collective self-cognitions than people from a collectivistic cultural background. Therefore, promot-ing a more differentiated, personalized view of out-group members may be well in line with the goal of intercultural understanding if applied to in-groups of an individualist social background, while members of collectivist in-groups would find confirmation that those “others” really are very different and hard to understand."
Source: Individualism vs. Collectivism in Different Cultures: A cross-cultural study
What you don't understand is that Mao Zedong had to attempt to maintain the country's stability with the cultural and national movements such as the Cultural Revolution emphasising and stressing the individuality and independence of China as a forced result of the end of Stalin's support and the Stalin era. The Cultural Revolution started in 1966 following Nikita Khrushchev's forcible removal by Soviet Communist Party members in 1964, concerning Mao and the Chinese leadership that the Eastern Bloc's environment was unstable and that Western influence could invade the country.
Now that the US rules the world and the internet and worldwide media is full of America, the younger generation are exposed to these infiltrating US ideas and it is the first stepping stone to the rise of a US puppet ruling generation. You may like to suck up to the US, but in no way is the coming US domination a good thing, not any more than the Chinese measures for independence were. The US is a tyrannical colonial imperial oppressive state stood upon consumerist exploitation and a biased media combined with a ridiculous false notion of "democracy", the pretence under which they invade other countries.
MR E The Ashkenazi population in Eastern Europe, including Russia, is the reason why some politicians and people from there have Jewish ancestry.
Wow, do you believe that space aliens will come and REALLY take over the world when the US is done? Hahaha
After the famine in the 50s mao was isolated within the party. He started cultural revolution to purge the party of his adversaries. Besides he feared that he would have the same fate of stalin wich was branded as criminal after his death. One further reason to send to prison intelectuals and enlightened people. Pfofessors.., intelectuals.., long time party members, anyone who could opose him.
Damn you chang kai shek, you should have won
South Korea also has that lost war generation like with the adjummas and adjoshis common in street markets and small shops. Do you guys roll as fast as it looks in the video or does it just look faster and more dangerous in video more than it really is riding? I really enjoy your weekend rides. Keep up the great work as best expat friends! Are you both South African? Thanx.
I am American (th-cam.com/users/laowhy86)
Winston is South African (hhtp://th-cam.com/users/serpentZA)
Cool. Thanks. I thought one of you sounded American, but then the South African accent isn't as strongly British as other common wealth countries. I had a South African friend in one of my years in Korea where used to go on Sunday exploration drives in his small car. Good times. I'll check out those channels.
One is fully dressed gigolo conservative , the other is spiked hair " liberal" ...Both are 多毛人 according to the Chinese ....
Typical shamless chinaman. There's no lost generation in south korea. In 60's korean people toppled authoratarian regime, In 80's massive demonstrations on military regime and the former ended the latter, and the list goes on. While in china, as it always does, keep submitting to the ruthless regime throught chinese history. China again will do another cultural revolution in the near future.
Just got to use this video for educational purposes. Thanks for the awesome you guys put out every week or so!
How do they get the cool aerial shots??
A drone.
Who controls it?
No idea. A friend I guess.
It can be also automatic, after you click a control button of course
'follow me' function
i feel like the intro song doesnt fit.
i love the intro,
Quack Dragon yeah it's catchy but its "remember remember i remember you" idk it just doesn't make sense to me for what they're doing.
I think the intro music is pretty tacky and the lyrics corny. LOL
GiorniVenibato agreed
i feel the same about the outro.
Thanks for bringing us on a drive. Insightful explains a lot I don't understand about China.
hey this part of china is different looking than the other videos you guys have been doing. good stuff, thanks guys