Funny thing too is the GE's of equivalent power redline at abound 1050 RPM if I remember correctly. But they're 4 stroke so they sound like they're going slower!
@@BenjaminEsposti bear in mind GEVO engines have quite a bit more displacement for this reason. A 2 stroke will always have a better power to weight ratio than an equivalent four stroke of the same displacement as a result of two power strokes per single four stroke cycle with a single power stroke and one exhuast stroke. Though thanks to the much higher expansion ratios acheived in four stroke, the efficiency is tremendously higher. It's all about trade offs. Here it's about power density vs carnot efficiency.
@@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife.... Actually, The power to displacement ratio is Much higher than on comparable output 4 cycles (as You, pointed out), regardless of overall displacement. You have to consider (which 95%+ of "laypeople" do Not) also, that on these engines, the actual Power stroke is just slightly HALF, of the overall stroke length, before the exhaust valves begin to lift and scavenging begins. They produce (basically) the same output numbers (hp/torque) as the 4 cycles... on generally 33% Less, Total engine displacement. Also, I'm NOT "directing" this comment/reply, to yourself (SDofCL), as much as I'm "adding" to yours for the benefit of those who do not really understand the subject..... as "abbreviated" as our comments are, in comparison to the whole.
Imagine working on a tugboat with 2 EMD 645-20 E7B's working full ahead @ 800rpm - it's like having 2 locomotives in your living room! Crowley built 25 "INVADER" Class twin-screw 140' deep water line-haul tugs at McDermott in Morgan City, LA. in the 70's with twin EMD 645-20 turbos. These were the finest long haul tugs in the world at the time. We towed 450' x 100' oil barges with crude from Valdez to Seattle, The Bay Area, and Long Beach constantly with these great boats.
EMD engines just OWN all other prime movers!!! 4-strokes are ok, but they chug like a washing machine that's out of balance. God I love EMDs! I just hope caterpillar keeps their engines out of them. It would just make me cry to see them get rid of 2-strokes engines! I could listen to these all day long. My only complaint on these later model 710 engines is they muffle them a little too much for my liking. The 645s exhaust was less restrictive. A 710 engine w/645's plumbing = HEAVEN! Damn EPA !!
I know this is a 5 years old post, but I would like to point out that 2-stroke engines cannot be fuel efficient and make low carbon emission in their combustion cycle. Like it or not, 4-stroke is going to be mainstream for the upcoming Tier 4 regulation. But then again, still in many other countries, that 2-stroke EMD 710 would probably still the star of EMD's lineup. As well as their legendary reliability. So don't think the 2T will see going away anytime soon.
@@Xyb3rTeCh the entire concept of 'tier 4' emissions regulation is a fraud. Air pollution levels in the US are at 'background' , ie pre-industrial levels now, and have been since the early 90's. Cleaner and cleaner engines will have NO EFFECT on air quality whatsoever. The rationale is that it's being done on 'principal'.
@@jimrennison1 You're right on target, a big con job! Plus, Class 1 train traffic in the US is at an all-time low while trucks clog up every highway in sight, and they want to talk about the environment? It's all one huge scheme to boost trucks, the big wigs in the EPA, truck companies, and more don't care about the environment. We're all being screwed thanks to their evil greed.
the v16 EMD's are the best sounding prime mover to ever hit the rails. That engineer doesn't waste any time putting the "pedal to the floor" and tearing out of there. Nice good sound depth too. Good recording. That rumble is just lost on a lot of videos. Hard to catch but for me it's the soul of these things.
This is definately one of the best EMD demos. Earth shattering vibrations on notch up then the sound of the Auxiliary fan and Turbocharger no full notch. That howling sounds so badass.
I can't stop coming back to this video. The sound of an EMD 710 is just the most memorable diesel engine song to me, with it's high-revving jet engine sound (I know, EMD 2-cycles predate jet engines) and deep thunderous rumble. Long live EMD!
Its an amazing sound to hear through your device, but to live it in person is a whole different story. When you are there you can feel that rumble course through your insides and if you're near a metal structure, it may even give it a good rattle just by passing by.
@megs905 They are not necessarily in Notch 8. All EMD's with 710's rev up to full rpm's as soon as you hit Notch 6. Then after about 15-20secs if the throttle hasnt been increased, they idle back down to Notch 6. You will hear that happen around 2:25 as they idle down.
You should live where I do and then you'd hear beautiful GE 4-stroke/cycle music all day long and you'd love it. Hard to compare a 2-stroke/cycle with a 4 stroke/cycle as well. The GE's sound beefier but quieter than the typical EMD 710 fare when they're coming up the hill by my house and that's the sound of a lot less #1 diesel being expended. A real treat for me is hearing the rare turbocharged 645E3 go by. I grew up on Dash-2's and I sure miss them.
An EMD 710 would be awesome down here in New Zealand. Unfortunately they probably wouldn't fit into our trains. We use EMD G18C and G22AR models down here, built by Clyde Engineering in Australia. The G18s used to use the 567 series but were then retrofitted to use the 'blown 645 seires. The G22s initially used a blown 645 but then converted to a turbo when NZR realised they needed more grunt. At Notch 8 they sound spectacular and man are they loud!
chris wright It's essentially a loudspeaker that plays a recording of a bell in place of a real bell. Sounds much harsher and more awful. Bronze or steel bells carry better than the ebells do.
Very cool yeah! For those who like 645s turbocharged, check the Metra MP36PH-3S. Since the prime mover drives a huge alternator for HEP, and HEP power is generated from 3rd notch and up, the sound has more lower frequencies than the F40PH (screamer) having to stay at high speed for HEP. Enjoy!
TheTheratfarmer Actually, a 16-710 produces 4300 horsepower at the crank. A GEVO-12 produces 4400 at the crank with a quarter less jugs. The 1010J looks interesting, though - 4600 horses at the crank with twelve jugs.
Awesome!! that is music to my ears!! I've been a huge EMD fan for years. Nothing beats the sound of turbo 645!! If you catch some SD40-2W doing the same thing...UPLOAD!!! Cheers, WCR
At notch eight she sounds like the 071 class loco that we have here in Ireland. They're used on freight mostly but they also serve other duties when needed.
Check out 36 thousand horses.m4v! on youtube It is about the Rogers pusher terminal in BC when Cp Rail used up to 12 SD40-2 locomotives to push west bound trains up the east side of the Selkirk mountains so they could go on their own through the connaught tunnel!! You will enjoy it!!!
I hear ya. The SD60s seem to have the best unrestricted 710 sounds. You can hear the turbos whining on them at notch 8 which you don't seem to get as much on the newer SD70s
Love it....the EMD 2-cycle sound was always one of the best. There is always a preponderance of loud fan (or turbo blade) humming with 710's...what gives. Still give the edge to a trio of unmuffled SD-40's storming up Keating Summit, but I'll surely take this. Five stars.
HELL YEAH!!! These sound WAY better than GE trash!! GEs don't even sound like diesels, they sound like shit! Nothing beats the sound of an EMD 567, 645, or 710 Series engine!! Also on a GE you can't even hear the turbos on those, all you hear is the nasty crackling and banging sounds they make... EMD > ge
If you like the turbo 645, then you should have a look to my CN532 (at 4:30) or my CN 534 (2:32) videos. I think you will like my video "NSB Di4 ..." too. There you can see a loco, Germany built for Norways state railway. It's powered by the 16-645 E3B prime mover.
These sounds pretty sweet. That 75 must have an unbalenced turbo charger causing the strange resonant squeal. The other whine that you hear when they give it all out is the Cooling fans at speed to cool the radiators. By far, my favorite locomotive sound has to be a 645 Turbo, or a EMD 567 Roots blown when it throttles up. But when it comes to new locomotives, nothing beats the compression knock and chug of a GE.
@UP5140SD70M I like the sound of a good GE chug, and they seem to have more of a personality than EMD. I'm not saying that because im a GE fan, but they just do.
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mrbillmacneill It's either headed toward Prince Rupert or Vancouver. Next home terminals going west are Prince George and Fruitloops, and crews trade off halfway between those - so either Blue River or McBride.
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This is one of the best EMD videos I've ever seen! That 710 sure sounds awesome!
710 is best of locomotive's engine
this too tth-cam.com/video/N3VjUp9oz8o/w-d-xo.html
So even this 1:-
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Dheeraj sir, I wish you would find one EMD in India that accelerate like this🙂😊
No🎉
It never ceases to amaze me how quickly these EMDs build up speed, even with a long train.
If you have a powerful music or home theater system you will be playing this video over and over.
You're almost waiting for a rod to spit out the side at that sort of RPM, but they take it all day long with ease. These are proper monsters!
Reflex Photography NZ spunds like hi rpms but only about 1000 granted huge crank and pistons so thats alot
Redline is 900 RPM on a 710
Funny thing too is the GE's of equivalent power redline at abound 1050 RPM if I remember correctly. But they're 4 stroke so they sound like they're going slower!
@@BenjaminEsposti bear in mind GEVO engines have quite a bit more displacement for this reason. A 2 stroke will always have a better power to weight ratio than an equivalent four stroke of the same displacement as a result of two power strokes per single four stroke cycle with a single power stroke and one exhuast stroke. Though thanks to the much higher expansion ratios acheived in four stroke, the efficiency is tremendously higher. It's all about trade offs. Here it's about power density vs carnot efficiency.
@@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife.... Actually, The power to displacement ratio is Much higher than on comparable output 4 cycles (as You, pointed out), regardless of overall displacement. You have to consider (which 95%+ of "laypeople" do Not) also, that on these engines, the actual Power stroke is just slightly HALF, of the overall stroke length, before the exhaust valves begin to lift and scavenging begins.
They produce (basically) the same output numbers (hp/torque) as the 4 cycles... on generally 33% Less, Total engine displacement.
Also, I'm NOT "directing" this comment/reply, to yourself (SDofCL), as much as I'm "adding" to yours for the benefit of those who do not really understand the subject..... as "abbreviated" as our comments are, in comparison to the whole.
Hearing an EMD rev up sends a rush up my spine every time! My goodness I love it! Long live EMD!
Imagine working on a tugboat with 2 EMD 645-20 E7B's working full ahead @ 800rpm - it's like having 2 locomotives in your living room! Crowley built 25 "INVADER" Class twin-screw 140' deep water line-haul tugs at McDermott in Morgan City, LA. in the 70's with twin EMD 645-20 turbos. These were the finest long haul tugs in the world at the time. We towed 450' x 100' oil barges with crude from Valdez to Seattle, The Bay Area, and Long Beach constantly with these great boats.
EMD engines just OWN all other prime movers!!! 4-strokes are ok, but they chug like a washing machine that's out of balance. God I love EMDs! I just hope caterpillar keeps their engines out of them. It would just make me cry to see them get rid of 2-strokes engines! I could listen to these all day long.
My only complaint on these later model 710 engines is they muffle them a little too much for my liking. The 645s exhaust was less restrictive. A 710 engine w/645's plumbing = HEAVEN! Damn EPA !!
GSkid2000 they wont but sad 2 strokes sound amazing emd gm was a sound ill die missing
I know this is a 5 years old post, but I would like to point out that 2-stroke engines cannot be fuel efficient and make low carbon emission in their combustion cycle. Like it or not, 4-stroke is going to be mainstream for the upcoming Tier 4 regulation. But then again, still in many other countries, that 2-stroke EMD 710 would probably still the star of EMD's lineup. As well as their legendary reliability. So don't think the 2T will see going away anytime soon.
GSkid2000 What junior high school do you go to?
@@Xyb3rTeCh the entire concept of 'tier 4' emissions regulation is a fraud. Air pollution levels in the US are at 'background' , ie pre-industrial levels now, and have been since the early 90's. Cleaner and cleaner engines will have NO EFFECT on air quality whatsoever. The rationale is that it's being done on 'principal'.
@@jimrennison1 You're right on target, a big con job! Plus, Class 1 train traffic in the US is at an all-time low while trucks clog up every highway in sight, and they want to talk about the environment? It's all one huge scheme to boost trucks, the big wigs in the EPA, truck companies, and more don't care about the environment. We're all being screwed thanks to their evil greed.
POWER.
This is power.
EMD IS POWER; BAR NONE.
What exactly does that mean?
@@douglasskaalrud6865 2 stroke diesel power
no matter how many times I watch this it never gets old! awesome video!
the v16 EMD's are the best sounding prime mover to ever hit the rails. That engineer doesn't waste any time putting the "pedal to the floor" and tearing out of there. Nice good sound depth too. Good recording. That rumble is just lost on a lot of videos. Hard to catch but for me it's the soul of these things.
True Shane.. Same for me too
Not only v16s even v8 710, v12 710 and v20 710 also sound great...
SriVenkat VidyaSubramanian the v12s sounds awesome on the DM/DE30s
@@shawn6970 You must hear the sounds of English Train Class T66 and Class T67. Their V12-710 prime movers sound like jets !!!
@@srivenkatvidyasubramanian6348 True. Even I've heard the sounds of Class 66 and 67. I damn just love their Jet Engine sounds !
This is definately one of the best EMD demos. Earth shattering vibrations on notch up then the sound of the Auxiliary fan and Turbocharger no full notch. That howling sounds so badass.
I can't stop coming back to this video. The sound of an EMD 710 is just the most memorable diesel engine song to me, with it's high-revving jet engine sound (I know, EMD 2-cycles predate jet engines) and deep thunderous rumble. Long live EMD!
Did you guys here the alarm at about 12/13? EMDs so loud they set off alarms!!! Awesome sound. Beats an exploding GE any day!!!
Yeah, that's why EMD can't sell locomotives.
Its an amazing sound to hear through your device, but to live it in person is a whole different story. When you are there you can feel that rumble course through your insides and if you're near a metal structure, it may even give it a good rattle just by passing by.
I love that kinda ringing sound of the 2 stroke EMD'S
This is the best diesel locomotive sound anywhere on youtube. I think I've heard all of them. Man.
when you here this sound every day. it's not the same as if you here it once in a while.
That's it baby girl! TAKE OFF AND FLY LIKE THE WIND!
Gotta love them EMD's!
@megs905 They are not necessarily in Notch 8. All EMD's with 710's rev up to full rpm's as soon as you hit Notch 6. Then after about 15-20secs if the throttle hasnt been increased, they idle back down to Notch 6. You will hear that happen around 2:25 as they idle down.
Best EMD sound Ever!!
fantastic sound greatings sweden
2 Years ago I said this is the best on youtube. I still come back once in a while and it still is.
In my humble opinion,the best EMD 710 sound video on You-Tube !
Such sweet thunder, the most beautiful sound in the world. Thanks.
Bye the way, the 201 Class Locos in Northern and Southern Ireland have 710's.
Man that's a sweet sound!!!!!!!!!I I dare any Ge to sound half as good as that!!!
You should live where I do and then you'd hear beautiful GE 4-stroke/cycle music all day long and you'd love it. Hard to compare a 2-stroke/cycle with a 4 stroke/cycle as well. The GE's sound beefier but quieter than the typical EMD 710 fare when they're coming up the hill by my house and that's the sound of a lot less #1 diesel being expended. A real treat for me is hearing the rare turbocharged 645E3 go by. I grew up on Dash-2's and I sure miss them.
Arizona Rails Emd til the day I die!
8300HP of 2 stroke lovelyness! An awesome noise for sure!
An EMD 710 would be awesome down here in New Zealand. Unfortunately they probably wouldn't fit into our trains. We use EMD G18C and G22AR models down here, built by Clyde Engineering in Australia. The G18s used to use the 567 series but were then retrofitted to use the 'blown 645 seires. The G22s initially used a blown 645 but then converted to a turbo when NZR realised they needed more grunt. At Notch 8 they sound spectacular and man are they loud!
Reflex Photography NZ Should just be a straight swap of power assemblies, I think.
Sound as well as the scene was amazing!
Wow!! What is it about that sound. Sends shivers down my spine. thanks for sharing.
My favourite 710 vid on TH-cam. Pure awesome EMD power!
That was FANTASTIC!
Yup, you can just feel all that torque. Amazing.
Beautiful heavy diesel sound! And Graham White E-bell!
whats a graham white e bell?
chris wright It's essentially a loudspeaker that plays a recording of a bell in place of a real bell. Sounds much harsher and more awful. Bronze or steel bells carry better than the ebells do.
Very cool yeah! For those who like 645s turbocharged, check the Metra MP36PH-3S. Since the prime mover drives a huge alternator for HEP, and HEP power is generated from 3rd notch and up, the sound has more lower frequencies than the F40PH (screamer) having to stay at high speed for HEP. Enjoy!
EMD, they have the power and performance. no other Co. can compete.
I know this comment is old, but if no other company can compete then why does GE have most of the market share?
TheTheratfarmer Actually, a 16-710 produces 4300 horsepower at the crank. A GEVO-12 produces 4400 at the crank with a quarter less jugs. The 1010J looks interesting, though - 4600 horses at the crank with twelve jugs.
It's such a sweet sound to hear... Great capture
That this video has under 100k views blows my mind wide open. I sure am glad it showed up in my mentions and I hope it shows up in a lot more.
Man, that EMD 710G3C turbo is whining like hell, it's awesome!
I love how it slowly powers up to its loud purr sound at notch 8!
Oh man i would love to be in that cab and feel that sound. Just awesome.
Great Locomotive nice sound, long fright train in a wonderful nature .ln the background the mountains.🌈🌈👍👍🔅🔆
Sounds like the 645 combined with a jet engine
WOW! Twin 710's from TAKE-OFF to RUN 8! "SEISMIC"!
Killer audio, love the throttle up.
The EMD 710 prime mover: The very sound of raw, unfettered power. Thank you for uploading this. :D
@AndreiTupolev Yes but the Class 66s are 12 cylinder, these are 16 cylinder 710s.
Totally unbelivable ,i can not believe that monsterious sound
the best sound ever.... you have to love this
Ha keep coming back to this one
@Siglaviking mate check 46000 hp climbs mullan pass. With over head phones on
Pure blood and guts right there
Awesome!! that is music to my ears!! I've been a huge EMD fan for years. Nothing beats the sound of turbo 645!! If you catch some SD40-2W doing the same thing...UPLOAD!!!
Cheers, WCR
best sounding 710 i`ve ever heard:D
i love listening to this.
At notch eight she sounds like the 071 class loco that we have here in Ireland. They're used on freight mostly but they also serve other duties when needed.
Tristan Doran Because those use the same family of engine and rolled off the same line, hah.
Noooo way hosay!
How is that chug chug chug gona drown out that 710 scream?
I like U-boats etall, but lets keep it real here.
EMD sounds awesome
Man, they sound like jets!
people in the uk are seeing this!!!!!!!!!!!exceptional isn't it
Check out 36 thousand horses.m4v! on youtube
It is about the Rogers pusher terminal in BC when Cp Rail used up to 12 SD40-2
locomotives to push west bound trains up the east side of the Selkirk mountains so they could go on their own through the connaught tunnel!!
You will enjoy it!!!
I hear ya. The SD60s seem to have the best unrestricted 710 sounds. You can hear the turbos whining on them at notch 8 which you don't seem to get as much on the newer SD70s
Love it....the EMD 2-cycle sound was always one of the best. There is always a preponderance of loud fan (or turbo blade) humming with 710's...what gives.
Still give the edge to a trio of unmuffled SD-40's storming up Keating Summit, but I'll surely take this. Five stars.
Wow in Notch 8 listen to the turbo
EMD is king.
Well done!
Sounds like a fucking beast
HELL YEAH!!! These sound WAY better than GE trash!! GEs don't even sound like diesels, they sound like shit! Nothing beats the sound of an EMD 567, 645, or 710 Series engine!! Also on a GE you can't even hear the turbos on those, all you hear is the nasty crackling and banging sounds they make...
EMD > ge
If you like the turbo 645, then you should have a look to my CN532 (at 4:30) or my CN 534 (2:32) videos. I think you will like my video "NSB Di4 ..." too. There you can see a loco, Germany built for Norways state railway. It's powered by the 16-645 E3B prime mover.
These sounds pretty sweet. That 75 must have an unbalenced turbo charger causing the strange resonant squeal. The other whine that you hear when they give it all out is the Cooling fans at speed to cool the radiators. By far, my favorite locomotive sound has to be a 645 Turbo, or a EMD 567 Roots blown when it throttles up. But when it comes to new locomotives, nothing beats the compression knock and chug of a GE.
This sounds exactly like a C5 super galaxy is gonna take off!!
@AmJaxineer Oh really I never heard a 710 before. Thank you for informing me!
I wish people in the UK who say that EMDs are boring would see this. Take the silencer off a Class 66 and it'd sound like that.
a music to my ears... :)
short horn blow wouldn't hurt, but it's perfect as it is... :)
We Don't need "horn blows".... there's too much of that on YT videos already... we just want to hear "raw power" with no horn blowing. : )
uhhhhhh so goood
I have to set the record straight... the pass is called Redpass.
That is full throttle at a early start!
Cool thanks
@theratfarmer V16 710 G3C TII in SD70ace. Oh, and the SD70M-2's like the above!
They sound like TF39-1, CF6-50 , CFM56-7 and PW2040...
The bell sound gets old, but not the sound of those engines worrying.
Muita saudade
WHOA That loud GO EMD GO
Yeah, V16, 710 Cubic inch per cylinder.
Jumbo Jet Takeoff !!!
thanks very much
oh that big diesel loco sounds good! .......I MEAN GOOD!
sensational!
@UP5140SD70M I like the sound of a good GE chug, and they seem to have more of a personality than EMD. I'm not saying that because im a GE fan, but they just do.
MUY BUENO FUI CONDUCTOR DE TRENES PASAJEROS EN LOS 80 90 EN AQUELLOS TIEMPOS EN ARGENTINA SE RESPETABAN HORARIOS VÍAS BUENAS CONDUCIA GT22W ALCO USSA RSD16 LOS TRENES ERAN DE 64 EJES 16 COCHES MAS BANDEJA AUTOMOVILERA MIS SALUDOS SRES
@UP5140SD70M yeah, SURE! Every time i see a GEVO, its on fire. EMD has its down sides too.
Wonder what that VIA Rail unit is doing there.
i notice a via rail emd f40ph next to the cn rail emd sd70
Alter, da Tanzen meine Boxen Samba auf'm Tisch. Grins.
Da schließ ich mich an, SD - Typen sind schon genial im Sound.
I wonder what they're saying..?
Ha yep back again. Cheers
i was expecting the f40ph to move anyway
I knew I wasn't the only one!
It only sounds like he made it to notch 7. What do you think?
Yeah and add 4 more cylinders! If you like this, type in- SU-99 stalls part two
Wow. that is all.
I thought it was the F40PH but it turned out to be an SD70M-2 should have read the description.
one of my absolute favourites.
I was wondering ...its heading to kamloops - is that the next crew change?
mrbillmacneill It's either headed toward Prince Rupert or Vancouver. Next home terminals going west are Prince George and Fruitloops, and crews trade off halfway between those - so either Blue River or McBride.
Good !
G. I. G. G. I. D. Y.!!!!!