Had to mention a few things about this trailer that I would advise potential buyers to inquire about. 1. It's tall at 9 feet plus if you add top tent and even more if you go with 33" tires. It's skinny 88" on a cab over wheel design. It looked a bit tippy even at low speeds. 2. That hitch extension on the Bronco looks like a bad idea. Especially since you were liklely over hitch capacity. You know that extension draw bar lowers your tongue weight capacity. This trailer should not be towed by a jeep or bronco even if you have one of the few models that are rated to 5,000 lbs. The trailer tounge is to short to pull with a vehicle that has a spare tire on the rear. Plus you had no trailer brakes. Crazy 3. I have an awining mounted on my trailer that is bit lower. I am 6 2" and I have to use stools to deploy. Doing from the roof is very sketchy, especially if the wind is blowing. Does it really cover the kitchen with it set back on the roof? 4. The dry weight of 2,900 pounds has to be without propane, rack, ladder, shovel, axe, high jack and spare tires. I would confirm. 5. Specs on website give no info on the brand of components. Water heater, solor panals, inverter, solar controler etc. Flame King stove top is low budget. As well as the cooler. Cooler is so small without the ability to make bigger. Not good for off grid travel. No access to frig unless kitchen is deployed. 6. Furnas is only rated to 5,000 vertical feet. 7. So a trailer with 23" of ground clearance with an articulating hitch that is 9+ feet tall is going to sway at speed and wind on freeway. Especially being pulled by a short wheel base vehicle. 8. One will need a dc/dc charger to get any trickel charge while in transit. 9. Timbrens should crossbar installed. The elastomers looked super stiff and you were crawling. 10. The standing space inside is so minimal i bet three people would be the max. Shower is so small and seems like water would spray everywhere. 11. Its almost like they used the same size chassis as thier smaller units. All carbon steel aspects should be powder coated or galvanized in this price point.
Remember to old saying " if this rig is a rocking don't come a knocking " Well that certainly applies to the TL with no Stabilizers. I imagine with the Tandum axel and skinny chassis they feel like it doesn't need any but leveling could be time consuming. With that and setting up the awning not so sure this rig has a short set up time.
Great review David! It was cool to see this in person at OXPNW. I don't need the space as my youngest just officially became an adult yesterday, but if it was in the budget, their ELE would be on order ASAP. That thing is badda$$. Anyone wondering, I put the Lock N Roll on my trailer and it's amazing. Highly recommend.
Wow! Awesome looking trailer. We roll around in a Big Bend Bronco with manual trans and tuned 2.3. We are hauling a Winnebago Hike 100. We have not had much trouble towing it around either. Love to see all your adventures and your beautiful photography. Great job!
Price an airstream lately? Would never want to hang at an RV park next to a freeway filled with retired travelers! Love the outdoors and off the grind with so much outdoor adventures we have for us to check out. Thanks for vids, I look forward to each and every one of them. Cheers
Kudos for being straight forward that the TL is too heavy for a 3,500 (350 lb tounge weight) towing capacity vehicle! Really curious what the genius TL weighs with all extras shown plus rooftop tent. It has to be over 2,900 pounds. FYI - I have not heard anyone mention a dc/dc charger. Assuming one is not included you can not expect any charge from the vehicle.
Two spots where i moochdock a lot are so tight getting in that i won't enter or leave in the dark with my class c I was looking to downsize to something i could pull behind our LR4 but this isn't any lower 😢 but i love the Floorplan
Nice job with the review. Are you going to become a full time overland product influencer? It seems that is the natural progression of most TH-cam overland channels.
I am full time, but I really don’t want to do reviews. I absolutely hate them. But mammoth and this trailer are super freakin cool to me so I wanted to share it in an overview type setup. But all I want to do is adventure videos
Cool trailer! I noticed you have an extension on your hitch. I did the same pulling my Taxa Cricket and bent the hitch. I had to have it fixed at a body shop and reinforced it. Also the tongue weight is a lot less which freaked me out a bit. I don't use the extender anymore and sucks because I can't get in the back of the Bronco.
@@OFFTHEGRIND I ended up doing a rear tire delete on our Bronco to pull a Hike 100. I was looking at an extender as well but now im glad I didnt for the same reason as stated by @rdalrymple31
These are cool and if you have the money great, 98% of the people watching your channel don't have this kind of money, so for them I would say, get a small cargo trailer, put timbrin's on them yourself, and save $100K. Now you have an "off-road" capable trailer than can help move your ATV, your buddies house, or you can throw some cots and a boxio sink / toilet in it and viola, you have yourself an overland off road trailer.
Really good question. I didn’t try but imagine it would be difficult for sure. They’re not SUPER heavy, but still probably not gonna be fun if you had to do it lol
Just get M416 military trailer, and get nice gear. These very large/Tall trailers are a accident waiting to happen on the trails. Never mind how are you going to pass oncoming traffic, or how will you pull over for faster traffic...........Especially in the PNW trail system. @3:10 Do not try to sell it as unnoticeable while being towed. Anyone whom has towed a small trailer on a trail knows that is a lie. Then later in the video you contradict this statement. Please do not get into the habit of being a salesman when "reviewing" gear.
I said that I don’t feel it affecting the handling of the bronco or feel any sway of the trailer through the bronco. I also said I didn’t notice wind effecting it. I DID say that the weight was noticeable. This was also intended as an overview, not a review. This is a prototype trailer so things will likely change slightly. Not fair to make a review on a beta product. Just showing what’s coming. Also, a surprisingly small amount of my audience is PNW. My highest viewed audience is from Florida and Texas. In those areas this makes a lot of sense and while this is not ideal for some PNW trail systems, it doesn’t mean it’s bad for all. Please remember that their are other situations and perspectives out there other than your own
I said that I don’t feel it affecting the handling of the bronco or feel any sway of the trailer through the bronco. I also said I didn’t notice wind effecting it. I DID say that the weight was noticeable. This was also intended as an overview, not a review. This is a prototype trailer so things will likely change slightly. Not fair to make a review on a beta product. Just showing what’s coming. Also, a surprisingly small amount of my audience is PNW. My highest viewed audience is from Florida and Texas. In those areas this makes a lot of sense and while this is not ideal for some PNW trail systems, it doesn’t mean it’s bad for all. Please remember that their are other situations and perspectives out there other than your own
So, I wonder... Three products, accomplish the same task. One is cheap. (China) One is designed in us, manufactured in China (Mid) and one is Made in USA. (Premium) Star rating against one another. There are tiers. You can go cheap, you can go mid, or you can go bougie. I think I have examples of all three on my rig, haha. There are soooo many products out there, that solve various problems. Sometimes, it can be hard for newbs to know the difference between good kit, and garbage. You're a pretty good judge, I think...
I want in. But we need AC. I am a desert rat here in AZ. There are 1000"s of miles of awesome trial here in Arizona. A lot of them are not in the cool air of the woods or up in mountains. Is AC going to be an option? And how many units are going to be made in that limited run?
I would imagine. I think they were trying to find the right one for this still. They were only planning to make 10, but last I heard are up to 14 due to demand
@@OFFTHEGRIND what's the best way to get in contact with these people? You got to give me the hook up because I want one of these. I can find but haven't heard a word so if you got any communication or could hook me up with someone there I want one of these
Rear tires go airborne at 1:27 and a few other times, but that’s because TimbrenHD only has about 4” of travel best I can tell from minimal research. Still very cool trailer!
I’m sorry but most of this camper looks very chintzy. As someone else already commented, the components used here are complete junk. Bottom of the barrel stock RV components that all the generic OEMs buy. Not comforting for 75K+. I’m sure the build quality of their manufactured parts is good, but man… why ruin everything buy using junk. Those dentist faucets make me cringe lol
To the Mammoth Overland folks: What are the pros cons of the Timbren HD suspension vs something else like Dexter Torsion axle? Was there a particular engineering design choice or constraint in selecting this specific type of suspension over so many other options now on the market for off-road trailers. Seems to work well for the light weight Tallboy.
Just to give you an example of the absurdity of the pricing, you can import an automated concrete batch plant , excavator, or dozer, or stone crusher , or skid steer , for less than this trailer... actual industrial machinery!!. You can purchase a BYD car with over a 400km range for less than this trailer. You can use you money to make money or make someone else rich.
Had to mention a few things about this trailer that I would advise potential buyers to inquire about.
1. It's tall at 9 feet plus if you add top tent and even more if you go with 33" tires. It's skinny 88" on a cab over wheel design. It looked a bit tippy even at low speeds.
2. That hitch extension on the Bronco looks like a bad idea. Especially since you were liklely over hitch capacity. You know that extension draw bar lowers your tongue weight capacity. This trailer should not be towed by a jeep or bronco even if you have one of the few models that are rated to 5,000 lbs. The trailer tounge is to short to pull with a vehicle that has a spare tire on the rear. Plus you had no trailer brakes. Crazy
3. I have an awining mounted on my trailer that is bit lower. I am 6 2" and I have to use stools to deploy. Doing from the roof is very sketchy, especially if the wind is blowing. Does it really cover the kitchen with it set back on the roof?
4. The dry weight of 2,900 pounds has to be without propane, rack, ladder, shovel, axe, high jack and spare tires. I would confirm.
5. Specs on website give no info on the brand of components. Water heater, solor panals, inverter, solar controler etc. Flame King stove top is low budget. As well as the cooler. Cooler is so small without the ability to make bigger. Not good for off grid travel. No access to frig unless kitchen is deployed.
6. Furnas is only rated to 5,000 vertical feet.
7. So a trailer with 23" of ground clearance with an articulating hitch that is 9+ feet tall is going to sway at speed and wind on freeway. Especially being pulled by a short wheel base vehicle.
8. One will need a dc/dc charger to get any trickel charge while in transit.
9. Timbrens should crossbar installed. The elastomers looked super stiff and you were crawling.
10. The standing space inside is so minimal i bet three people would be the max. Shower is so small and seems like water would spray everywhere.
11. Its almost like they used the same size chassis as thier smaller units. All carbon steel aspects should be powder coated or galvanized in this price point.
Remember to old saying " if this rig is a rocking don't come a knocking " Well that certainly applies to the TL with no Stabilizers. I imagine with the Tandum axel and skinny chassis they feel like it doesn't need any but leveling could be time consuming. With that and setting up the awning not so sure this rig has a short set up time.
Couldn't have said it better myself, great detail anyone with a Bronco should pass on this trailer.
Finally!!! Someone is showing off the new mammoth trailer. Thanks brother. ❤
Of course! So glad I got the opportunity to
David I appreciate your time with this follow-up overview video of the Mammoth trailer! It's a really cool design!
Yeah it’s a super dope trailer! Only going to be better once it hits production
@offthegrind do you know if they are going to change the design much when production begins this September?
Great review David! It was cool to see this in person at OXPNW. I don't need the space as my youngest just officially became an adult yesterday, but if it was in the budget, their ELE would be on order ASAP. That thing is badda$$. Anyone wondering, I put the Lock N Roll on my trailer and it's amazing. Highly recommend.
Wow! Awesome looking trailer. We roll around in a Big Bend Bronco with manual trans and tuned 2.3. We are hauling a Winnebago Hike 100. We have not had much trouble towing it around either. Love to see all your adventures and your beautiful photography. Great job!
Price an airstream lately? Would never want to hang at an RV park next to a freeway filled with retired travelers! Love the outdoors and off the grind with so much outdoor adventures we have for us to check out. Thanks for vids, I look forward to each and every one of them. Cheers
That was a good, thorough review of the tall boy. You covered the features well and did a great job describing usability. Great review!
Thank you sir! Such a cool product and I’m so grateful I got the opportunity to be the first to test it out!
Kudos for being straight forward that the TL is too heavy for a 3,500 (350 lb tounge weight) towing capacity vehicle! Really curious what the genius TL weighs with all extras shown plus rooftop tent. It has to be over 2,900 pounds.
FYI - I have not heard anyone mention a dc/dc charger. Assuming one is not included you can not expect any charge from the vehicle.
That thing is a beast! Pretty rad set up!
Two spots where i moochdock a lot are so tight getting in that i won't enter or leave in the dark with my class c
I was looking to downsize to something i could pull behind our LR4 but this isn't any lower 😢 but i love the Floorplan
Cost more than the vehicle towing it :(
As does most things you tow that you recreate in. Prices a boat lately?
@@OFFTHEGRINDdont be an asshole
These overlanding channels suck, all they care about is clout
@woodsmonkey2265 why are you here then?
How am I being an asshole?
If you don’t have the means to afford what you see here, don’t complain. Be inspired, informed, or encouraged to watch something else. This is good.
Man, what a beast! One day ill have one.
Might wanna look at a different tow rig as well lol. I wouldn’t tow this long term with the bronco
Saw the heater, any chance that an air conditioner is available for those who are out west where the summer temps go over 110 degrees?
As of right now there is not but I’m pretty sure they are close to finding a solution for that
That is a cool trailer.
Nice Trailer bro
If it was $50K I'd definitely mod out the bunk area and and put a small desk there and put that fridge inside next to it.
That would be really sick actually
Nice job with the review. Are you going to become a full time overland product influencer? It seems that is the natural progression of most TH-cam overland channels.
I am full time, but I really don’t want to do reviews. I absolutely hate them. But mammoth and this trailer are super freakin cool to me so I wanted to share it in an overview type setup. But all I want to do is adventure videos
Cool trailer! I noticed you have an extension on your hitch. I did the same pulling my Taxa Cricket and bent the hitch. I had to have it fixed at a body shop and reinforced it. Also the tongue weight is a lot less which freaked me out a bit. I don't use the extender anymore and sucks because I can't get in the back of the Bronco.
Yeah I was fine with this as a temporary thing but this is not a permanent solution for the bronco for sure
@@OFFTHEGRIND I ended up doing a rear tire delete on our Bronco to pull a Hike 100. I was looking at an extender as well but now im glad I didnt for the same reason as stated by @rdalrymple31
Wow ! Ok again, WoW.
These are cool and if you have the money great, 98% of the people watching your channel don't have this kind of money, so for them I would say, get a small cargo trailer, put timbrin's on them yourself, and save $100K. Now you have an "off-road" capable trailer than can help move your ATV, your buddies house, or you can throw some cots and a boxio sink / toilet in it and viola, you have yourself an overland off road trailer.
70k lol sheeesh……. Trippin
I think people forget how much things cost to make between material cost going way up and demand for higher wages. The result is expensive products
For $70k, one can totally trash 8 used pop-ups…with A/C 😅
@@PlanoRob no shit ... right
No AC? Is it specable?
How can we get this in New Zealand
David I’m wondering about lifting the upper spare up and down?
Really good question. I didn’t try but imagine it would be difficult for sure. They’re not SUPER heavy, but still probably not gonna be fun if you had to do it lol
Maybe that's what the farm jack is for 😢
Just get M416 military trailer, and get nice gear. These very large/Tall trailers are a accident waiting to happen on the trails.
Never mind how are you going to pass oncoming traffic, or how will you pull over for faster traffic...........Especially in the PNW trail system.
@3:10 Do not try to sell it as unnoticeable while being towed. Anyone whom has towed a small trailer on a trail knows that is a lie. Then later in the video you contradict this statement.
Please do not get into the habit of being a salesman when "reviewing" gear.
Seriously. This review was just unnecessary. Something this size and weight needs to stay off trails or be mounted on the back of a Isuzu truck.
I said that I don’t feel it affecting the handling of the bronco or feel any sway of the trailer through the bronco. I also said I didn’t notice wind effecting it. I DID say that the weight was noticeable.
This was also intended as an overview, not a review. This is a prototype trailer so things will likely change slightly. Not fair to make a review on a beta product. Just showing what’s coming.
Also, a surprisingly small amount of my audience is PNW. My highest viewed audience is from Florida and Texas. In those areas this makes a lot of sense and while this is not ideal for some PNW trail systems, it doesn’t mean it’s bad for all. Please remember that their are other situations and perspectives out there other than your own
I said that I don’t feel it affecting the handling of the bronco or feel any sway of the trailer through the bronco. I also said I didn’t notice wind effecting it. I DID say that the weight was noticeable.
This was also intended as an overview, not a review. This is a prototype trailer so things will likely change slightly. Not fair to make a review on a beta product. Just showing what’s coming.
Also, a surprisingly small amount of my audience is PNW. My highest viewed audience is from Florida and Texas. In those areas this makes a lot of sense and while this is not ideal for some PNW trail systems, it doesn’t mean it’s bad for all. Please remember that their are other situations and perspectives out there other than your own
So, I wonder... Three products, accomplish the same task. One is cheap. (China) One is designed in us, manufactured in China (Mid) and one is Made in USA. (Premium) Star rating against one another.
There are tiers. You can go cheap, you can go mid, or you can go bougie. I think I have examples of all three on my rig, haha. There are soooo many products out there, that solve various problems. Sometimes, it can be hard for newbs to know the difference between good kit, and garbage. You're a pretty good judge, I think...
Thank you I really appreciate that! And yeah you’re absolutely right. And everyone is going to have a different preference for each
I found a Chinese one I really like but nothing I have ever bought sight unseen from China was ever as advertised:(😢
I want in. But we need AC. I am a desert rat here in AZ. There are 1000"s of miles of awesome trial here in Arizona. A lot of them are not in the cool air of the woods or up in mountains. Is AC going to be an option? And how many units are going to be made in that limited run?
I would imagine. I think they were trying to find the right one for this still. They were only planning to make 10, but last I heard are up to 14 due to demand
@@OFFTHEGRIND what's the best way to get in contact with these people? You got to give me the hook up because I want one of these. I can find but haven't heard a word so if you got any communication or could hook me up with someone there I want one of these
@@knockharder3554 have you sent an inquiry on mammotheoverland.com or tried to call them?
@@OFFTHEGRIND yes sir
@@OFFTHEGRIND going to try again today. Thank you for responding
I didn't see this trailer get airborne even once in this review. :(
Rear tires go airborne at 1:27 and a few other times, but that’s because TimbrenHD only has about 4” of travel best I can tell from minimal research. Still very cool trailer!
YEAH!! Suck it Casey!! lol
Bro what do you do for a living I’m trying to do what you do
lol I do TH-cam. I do not make enough to buy this, but it does give me the opportunity to test it out before everyone else!
Great review. The price tag makes me not want to look at it. The trailer cool, though.
what no ac??? whats the batt for? fans?
lights..fridge...cooking and outlets...
Maybe a Zero Breeze?
I’m sorry but most of this camper looks very chintzy. As someone else already commented, the components used here are complete junk. Bottom of the barrel stock RV components that all the generic OEMs buy. Not comforting for 75K+. I’m sure the build quality of their manufactured parts is good, but man… why ruin everything buy using junk. Those dentist faucets make me cringe lol
Dang. Starting at 72 grand.
No that’s fully loaded
$72,000 holy cow
We get our HV on Wednesday and you're showing me this ;D
Hahahaha well the HV is incredible. I honestly plan to get one again next year
What is an HV ?
@@brianflynn7148 The smaller version from Mammoth (and we love it so far)
To the Mammoth Overland folks: What are the pros cons of the Timbren HD suspension vs something else like Dexter Torsion axle? Was there a particular engineering design choice or constraint in selecting this specific type of suspension over so many other options now on the market for off-road trailers. Seems to work well for the light weight Tallboy.
The fridge is to small for two adults, one 17 years old and a 10 years old girl.
Just to give you an example of the absurdity of the pricing, you can import an automated concrete batch plant , excavator, or dozer, or stone crusher , or skid steer , for less than this trailer... actual industrial machinery!!. You can purchase a BYD car with over a 400km range for less than this trailer. You can use you money to make money or make someone else rich.
Sorry not worth the price