Arai vs. Scorpion: Is More Expensive Really Better?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- Does twice the cost equal twice the performance? Tune in as I discuss my experience with the $500 Scorpion EXO-R1 Air Carbon and the $1,000 Arai Corsair X!
Two quick edits: The R1 is not FIM homologated in the retail version; it is for Quartararo, however. (www.frhp.org/c...)
Also, there are different sizes in pads available for the R1 Air for a perfect fit.
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Two quick edits: The R1 is not FIM homologated in the retail version; it is for Quartararo, however. (www.frhp.org/circuit%20helmets/homologated-helmets)
Also, there are different sizes in pads available for the R1 Air for a perfect fit. :)
Next AGV carbon fibre iridium $1700
I just ordered a Scorpion R1 Air as well. Another great video! Eric
There is no comparison in my book. The quality of Arai is in a league of its own, along with its quality checks.
I was just between Arai, Shoei and Scorpion. Definitely getting the Scorpion this weekend. Thank you for the video
Thanks for watching! All are excellent choices and I am sure you will enjoy your Scorpion!
Do you still use the scorpion helmet? What do u think of it?
Glad to see another persons eyes open to the awesomeness that is Scorpion.
The high quality and how they test their products along with their pricing makes them top tier for me
I personally prefer the round shape of the Arai helmet but both are good products. Thanks for your review.
Even tho they both pass the same standards, Arais results are the top of the top, there are helmets sent in by customers where they hit a pole and impaled themselves on it and survived without any consequences. I love the shape and looks of the scorpion, same as AGVs, but honestly, I would allways pay a premium for the best when it comes to my safety. Own an Arai Quantic, first helmet with the new ECE 22.06 standard.
Thank you. I actually own a Shoei X-14 and then I felt like I upgraded to the Arai Corsair-X last year. This year I am looking at the Scorpion EXO-R1 and have to say it has caught my eye. I tried one on at the MotoGP race at COTA and was really impressed with those adjustable air cheeks were a very cool idea. It seems you get a lot for about half the price. The small size is FIM too besides also ECE rated, so technically the Medium should be too since the same shell. Also the EXO-R1 AIR FABIO QUARTARARO MONSTER REPLICA would match my 21 Kawasaki ZX-10R KRT edition, lol.
I love Scorpion because I wear glasses and they always keep that in mind in their designs.
If I recall correctly the break away of certain parts of a helmet where it can affect the efficacy of the helmet in an RTC or off has been incorporated into the new ECE 22.06 standard. I know that certain other manufacturers have already incorporated break away spoilers on some of their helmets.
"head to head" comparison :D
i love my Scorpion exo R1 air Quartararo replica !!
Nice video , I just placed my order for scorpion Exo R1 air carbon today.
You should try Aria Regent-X. Corsair is for the track day. If it's day to day ride, I think Regent-X can beat Scorpion. I am confident to say that, because I have both. Regent-X is lighter and cheaper than Corsair and in the same price range as the Scorpion. Not to mention Aria passed SNELL, Scorpion didn't.
Thanks for the suggestion! Admittedly, one of the reasons I went up into the Corsair is that I would like to get into track days in the next year or so, and I figured it would be nice to have some familiarity in the helmet which I would be taking to the track. My boyfriend has the Regent and I have had it in hand, but have not ridden it as we wear different sizes. I'd be interested to test one though!
Scorpion is snell certified too man
I think hjc rpha 11 pro is good too in within the price range. Rf1400 lol
Great comparison. Gives new riders a bit of piece of mind when buying a “less premium” helmet. Some great points raised for both helmets
I’d like to try a scorpion but they are hard to find in my part of the world. I rock an AGV K5, which I really rated…until I shaved my beard off and realised just how much air that helmet lets in haha. Still a good budget helmet but I wouldn’t recommend wearing it without ear plugs, but then again I wouldn’t recommend riding without earplugs so 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for sharing your experience! I do think it is important for newer riders to have peace of mind and also for more experienced riders to constantly reevaluate the industry and see where innovation is happening.
I love that your beard was sealing air! :) I just ordered a set of earplugs now that I am doing some longer rides, too.
@@mototigress whoops, I wrote “piece” of mind 🤣 Listening to too much Iron Maiden.
Oh absolutely! There are lots of great companies around nowadays offering quality features like the big brands. That’s why TH-camrs like yourself are so good, offering real world opinions on real world products
That scorpion looks like my next helmet lol
Just lost my Shoei Neotec 2 in a wreck. It did it's job and saved my life. Going to be trying this Scorpion exo-r1 next.
At more than 250 km/h (155 mph) which is better?
Great video. I really enjoy your channel. 🤘💀🤘
Thanks for being a part of it!
I have /had shoei, arai, scorpion, bell shield
And yes there is a difference in just about everything.
As a current Arai RX-Q helmet that I love, I wanted to comment that I also love.. the Scorpion Exo R1 air Halley edition.
I think your review was very thorough and agree with your points. Only thing I’d mention is that additional graphics for the R1 can be ordered from the EU market (as I did). In fact, I looked at Arai’s entire lineup and couldn’t find any graphic I really liked as much as my current one nor one that matched my Dainese jacket/pants. This is where Scorpion hit a home run. Several of their graphics I loved and three of them were great matches for my bike and gear.
Hope I never have to put any of these helmets to a crash test but I feel very safe in either of these lids.
A few things I particularly like about each:
Arai: visor vents, additional vent options, legendary craftsmanship.
Scorpion: air bladder, neck roll, lighter weight, graphics choices, pin lock, value.
In all, I’m happy to make the transition to the Scorpion. My wife went from a Shoei to a Scorpion and the things she mentioned she likes about hers are the fit, graphics, and low noise level.
Great review and I look forward to more of your videos!
Just put my comment in a different video... But a comparison between the R1400 AIR (Carbon) and the R1 (both Scorpion) would be nice. Or a SHOEI vs Scorpion vs ARAI would also be nice
Great comparison !
Hear you loud and clear! Lots of folks are interested in seeing a Shoei in the mix!
I recommend checking out the AGV K6. It's the lightest helmet I've ever tried on. And its around the 500.00 mark. I nearly got one but it was just outside of my price range.
I’m very interested in getting my hands on one of these helmets. I love the Secret graphic! 🤤
Couldn't agree more! AGV K6 is something else! 👍🏻👍🏻
I have the AGV K6 the last 2 years.
Very nice helmet. I have a cardo Freecom 2+ and a DJI OSMO ACTION.
I make a lot of trip's with this helmet.
But i see now the Scorpion in gloss Carbon and it's look perfect.
Here in Germany it cost 399€.
I go next month to try the sizes and i will order one.
With the helmet i take and the new cardo Freecom 4X. I will not put camera in this helmet.
I want to keep it clean.
It's one of the most beautiful helmet's in good price.
I'm debating between the scorpion and a D6 helmet.
I have seen on a review elsewhere, small r1 helmet is FIM approved as that is what Fabio runs in MotoGp. Certain markets had to have a couple of changes to make them compliant. I believe Europe get the FIM approved and USA had to ha e changes.
You can’t really take the weight at face value. The center of gravity is lower on the Arai than most other brands, so you don’t feel the weight nearly as much.
You can have a helmet that’s lighter, but if the weight is all up top, it will feel heavier when it’s on your head.
Also, the Corsair is designed to be used more in a tuck position since it’s a race helmet. For your bike that puts you more in an upright position, you likely would have been better off in a Regent or Defiant/Contour.
We had a customer who put a dent in a metal gas tank with his head during a wreck and did not have even have a concussion in the Arai.
Not sure if the Scorpion would have been as effective with its single density EPS liner. I think a couple of them have two densities, but it’s just not comparable to Arai’s 4 density EPS impact liner.
The Scorpion helmet will also continue to pack out after break in, meaning you can only get 3-5 years out of it. The Arai has a composite polystyrene that will not pack out after break in, so you can get 8-10 years out of them depending on when it was manufactured (date stamp is on the D rings, polystyrene starts to get brittle around the 10 year mark, so don’t use it past that).
Don’t get me wrong, Scorpion makes some seriously good helmets for the price. They’re just not really comparable to the Arai.
You also need a little bit of sound proofing in that room it's mad loud.
Excellent, Honest review!
would love your honest review of the Icon Airflite helmet next!
As honest as I can be: while I haven’t ridden one, I tried one on for about 20 minutes at Cycle Gear. The fit is not for me (since it is a long oval shape) but I think it is at least priced somewhat accordingly for the quality. The drop down visor on the three that I tried on in store had poor optical quality with a “wave” in the central part of the vision. Not sure if that was a fluke but I tried three different helmets (two smalls and a medium) and they all had that same optical issue. I’ll leave it to a long oval-headed Icon owner to chime in for an accurate assessment!
Scorpion R1 Air Corpus II White all the way!
I’d say my Corsair x is my loudest helmet my scorpion r420 is second, my Roof Desmo is my go to helmet despite it being for a round head and having a slight hotspot, it’s quiet and it’s dual homologated , which I don’t know if any other modular helmets that are safety tested in both closed and open (what they call “jet” configuration)
I like riding with my Desmo in jet mode slower speed.
Arai is correct about the egg shape that’s basic 8th grade physical science.
I have heard they won’t do drop down visors because it compromises the safety.
I think testing is not as relevant as crash data , I wish we had longitudes patient data post crash for all the helmets.
If we ever go to single payer (ha fat chance since it’s so radical it will make a life long ECU social democrat blush) there would be huge advantages in data available for safety.
Quick update here. Yes you can inexpensively and completely customize the interior of the Scorpion by utilizing the thicker and thinner pads from other sizes. Weak point is their charts to do so is equal to their ability to take pictures of their lids. Abysmal unfortunately. Poor man's X whatever imo. Just ordered my second and will add cheek pads from a small because I love a vise like fit
Ok. Honest helmet reviews made you channel subs boom. That's great! Now how about some ride content and other gear reviews? Or maybe just some rides and chat about day to day things? I'm sure some subs would enjoy this type of content.
I have always loved motorcycles but now I am leaning towards spyders, atvs and off road. I still enjoy motorcycle channels too. Stay Safe
Thanks for your feedback! I’m going to be doing more riding content shortly. 😁
hi, Would you please tell me what size are both helmets? I use medium in arai but scorpion XL was great....I do have a weird head though :)
can we get a head to head on the scorpion vs the Ruroc?? lol I went with the Arai only bc of my experience with Ruroc, I was afraid of the long term hold up.
I suppose I could- although it won’t be much of a comparison! 😜
Plz review the Scorpion exo 1400 carbon vs Caberg drift evo carbon as well. Price point very close, but plz share your review and feedback on the 2
Noted!
@@mototigress any luck ?
it is like comparing a zx10 H2 to ducati Panigale. Both are excellent machines that goes pass 200mph. Japanese vs Italian. But one cost 2x as much. Scorpion make good helmets. Chines vs Japanese in this case.
@Moto Tigress What bike is that, and do u have a review of it? I'm shopping for my first bike and I'm a midget (5' short). Thx
Hi Jeremiah! This is the 2021 Honda CB500F. I will be doing a review of this bike shortly. The seat height is just shy of 31”. It feels quite low to me, but I am 5’9”. 🙂
@@mototigress thank u so much! I just saw your other vid announcing the purchase. It's the bike I was looking at also. Thank u. Looking forward to the review but I think I'm already sold on it. 🙂It's down to either that one or the Rebel 500. Thx again.
@@MightyMouzMoto go with the Rebel 500 as it has a lower seat height
Check out the Honda rebel 1100. If you can practice throttle control it might be your forever bike, and it's a cool 26.5" seat height. Vulcan 650s has "ergo fit" which really helped me feel more confident. Caveat: if you plan to do a lot of highway riding, the Vulcan has to play in the high revs. It's just not punchy enough for me to feel safe when prevailing traffic is 75-85 mph.
I chose Arai
How both helmets fitted you? One is round and one is oval. I tried scorpion before and the pressure point was just crazy
Both the Scorpion EXO-R1 and the Arai Corsair X are intermediate oval shapes. The Quantum X is Arai’s round helmet, and the Covert is Scorpions round helmet.
These are both size small helmets (I measure just shy of 56cm) and they both fit me well, no pressure points.
Ps add pre load to your suspension as your bobbing up and down like your on a pogo stick .
Haha thanks for noticing! That road is like that, bike doesn’t bob normally (in fact the suspension is almost too stiff at times!)
No customizable interior on the R1!?
What about the Airfit pump?!
I was referring to the cheek pads being reshaped. The air pump does customize the fit, but doesn’t really alter the cheek pad shape. I should have been more clear. :)
Hi cool review how did the scorpion compare size wise to the arai? Really considering the scorpion as a second helmet to my arai
I find the fit to be very similar and I have no complaints with either helmet in that space. I wear a small in both helmets and am right in the middle of an intermediate oval shape, for reference.
@@mototigress Thanks for the reply and information just ordered one on the back of you review 👍👍liking your videos and reviews keep up the good work 😁
Don't think it would take much to break small plastic pieces off a helmet in a crash.....wouldn't be a concern for me.......no helmet really has flat spots either so wouldn't worry me either......ARAI has always been top tier brand.......I would buy one based off fit on my head, features, and of course looks......$500 vs $1000 is huge difference
So which one have you been using the most?
Hands down it's the Scorpion for me, I only pull out the Arai when I'm bored or it's a particularly hot day. :)
air r1 or agv k6?
Personally, I prefer the R1.
@@mototigress I just ordered last night
But which helmet offers the best protection in the event of an accident?
Both. The Scorpion Exo-R1 is the only helmet in this price point that is FIM homologated, which is the strictest safety standard out there. It's what is used in MotoGP (Fabio Quartararo wears the Exo-R1). FIM blows Snell, DOT, and ECE out of the water in terms of safety standards. This is the main reason why I chose my Exo-R1. There are not many FIM helmets on the market, and the ones that are cost twice the price. You can feel safe with either of these two options!
scorpion blows most helmets out of the water in my opinion.
and anything is better than a ruroc
Based
Idk, so I just got both.
That’s a great approach, too! 😜
@@mototigress Love em both, too!
I don't bargain when it comes to my safety, I've been visited to Shoei and Arai Japan factory and have to say this, you pay the top dollar for Japanese handmade build quality for many many years.