3 Stories From the Files Of Adventures in Card Dealing: The Scam, The Drug Deal, and The PSA Regrade
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I mean, if the same card can grade a 2 for one psa grader and a 7 for another, you know the whole grading industry is a scam.
The drug deal story got me laughing hysterically where you say hey the guy want to smoke a joint you like well okay.
Classic
Love “The drug deal “ story! You can look back now and laugh, but at the time I see why you were a little worried!, 😂
As a newbie to card collecting and am learning about PSA grading criteria, this is educational.
So in addition to PSA looking at centering, corners, surface condition and overall measurement, don't let your cards smell like pot. OK good tip. Thanks for sharing.
I remember that Koufax card story very well. I just checked my original comment, which was: "The identical card being graded a 2 and then a 7 by the same company just shows how ridiculous card grading can be." That comment got 116 likes and 21 replies. But now that you've told a couple of other stories, it's obvious that your hippie guy was supplying one of PSA's graders with way too much of what was in his bag!
Good ole PSA and their inconsistent grading.......SMH 🤦♂🤦♂
Love the stories, Chris.
Your "illicit drug deal" reminded me of a similar scenario I was involved in a couple years ago. A potential buyer and I had arranged to meet at a bar where we had dinner and drinks before talking business. We'd selected the place because it was out of the way and wouldn't be very busy. I'd brought my cards in a black briefcase and had them sitting on the table so the buyer could look through them while we talked. We took too long and the bar closed before we could complete the deal. We moved to the parking lot, where I popped my trunk so we'd have a place to set the cards down and finish negotiating. It was a larger deal and the buyer brought several thousand dollars in cash. We shook on it and, as the buyer handed me the money, we noticed a police car slowly cruising by on the adjacent street. We couldn't see the officer's face, but it was clear he'd taken interest in what two grown men could be exchanging cash over at midnight in a bar parking lot. I was so startled by how ridiculously shady the whole scene looked, that I smiled and waved at the officer. He stopped the car, seemed to consider the situation for a few seconds, and drove on.
I remain friends with the buyer to this day, and we've both agreed to conduct any future deals in less suspicious settings.
Great story!
I wish grading companies had “grading notes” from the grader to let us know why the card got the grade it did! Great stories!
Same here!
TAG does don't they?
@@markthompson7503 No sane person is sending a PSA 7 Koufax rookie to TAG
FCG does this. Great looking slabs as well. The resale value isnt quite there yet, but they check the boxes on everything else. Look, price, speed, accuracy, and grading notes!
In the "process" of coming up w/the FINAL grade, wouldn't they automatically have the sub grades or "grading notes" right there?? Just put them on the label for crying out loud. Only thing I could think of is CYA for a bizarre grade.
Hi Chris. Thank you for those stories, love the Kofax and Hippie one's.
Thanks Chris, I didn't know Spicoli collected cards..... It still amazes me that PSA can within a very short window of time grade a card a "2" then grade it a "7" , mind boggling
Great stories as always, thank you for sharing!
need to get AI to create animated versions of these stories
S tier comment right here lol
That is a 😂-comment
😂😂😂😂😂 that would be so funny
Chris is actually an AI character.
We need AI to find every PSA bad grading video on youtube, and publish 10:00 minute digests on the hour😅
Best series on this channel in my opinion. I love the stories so much and always looking forward to another one. All the content is top notch though.
Good stories Chris. Like the hippie one the best. PSA is wildly inconsistent. Grading companies across the board are vastly overpriced IMO. Standard no rush grading service shouldn't cost more than $10 a card. Just plain greed.
I worked at a grading company for a while. We could technically do $10 a grade, but it was only worth it for bulk orders of easy stuff. If you have to spend a bunch of time figuring out the info for the label, or extra time grading because the condition isnt perfect, then there was no profit. About $15 per grade is where you need to be to make a profit and still do things legit and properly. PSA is a different story though. They hire college kids and pay them very little. They also dont grade cards like other companies, they just look at it and guess a grade so they can get through them way quicker. They also use the cheapest cases on the market. And they charge massively more than other companies.
Great Stories Chris!! The Drug Deal! Lol that was a good one 😂! The PSA one is crazy up 5 points in a regrade! First of all Beautiful Card!!! Second great job on the resend and knowing what it should grade or least what you felt it should be and it was! I think it should’ve gotten a 8 myself! It’s got the eye appeal!!
Hey there were great stories really looking forward to more content thank you for sharing that
Beautiful Koufax. Love these stories.
PSA - Please Submit Again.
Awesome looking Koufax rookie, Chris! Great stories as always!
Probably suckered again..
Possibly scammed again..
I’ve never laughed so hard than at this drug deal story! I mean how nuts is that other guy! You just can’t make this stuff up. 😂
The drug deal story is too funny 😂. Lol
MORE PLEASE! Great stuff! Thanks C!
Yes, a rare Files of Adventures in Card Dealing upload! Even if a bird were to use me for target practice, one of my 10 toes were to get stubbed, or a fly should appear in my soup, it will still be a great day b/c of these new stories
I'm a charter member of the hate for PSA club 😆. Sorry but after they charged me for a card they didn't grade, they have had my ire. IF I ever grade again, itll likely be with SGC. Great customer service I've heard plus no chance of POP report manipulation.
PSA did the same thing to me and another TH-cam content creator. He had a flawless 2022 chrome card and it came back a 2. His card was easily a 9. Needless to say he was dumbfounded.
In my case I received a 2 on a vintage basketball card and resubmitted and got a 7. This tells me that some PSA graders aren't even looking at the cards and are just passing them through the system to meet their daily quota. Like any other job, I'm sure the work is monotonous and employees take shortcuts to get through their shift. I would imagine some of them get a kick out of knowing how shocked the customer will be when he gets his cards back after waiting so long. PSA has no incentive to stop this bad behavior because they make money on the initial submission and on the re-submission. They're all laughing all the way to the bank. Eventually there will be a whistleblower and hopefully a class action to lawsuit to make a lot of us collectors whole. Sorry for the rant Chris.
From a 2 to a 7. If that isn't an indication how UNreliable PSA is, then I don't know what is!
Absolutely LOVE hearing your Adventures in Card Dealing stories! I'm happy your Koufax finally came back with the grade it deserved (or, at least CLOSE!). And, REALLY happy that you guys didn't get busted those years ago! Thanks Chris and I hope you're doing well.
Love these. Keep them coming!
And PSA is more inconsistent today than back then , we shouldn't have to crack and resend to them to get the correct grade ‼️
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Adventures in card collecting. What did you wife say about the Mary Jane seller.
Thank you for a good video. Interesting to hear the sports card experiences.
I knew exactly where the second story was going. You had me cracking up. Great stories as always Chris!
A 2 to a 7... typical PSA bullsh*t. - WW
If that isn’t the best example of buy the card and not the grade I don’t know what is
I came across a cigar box with pictures of cards of T205 baseball players.
I know this is going to be good. Haven’t watched it yet, but I always love these adventures.
Yep, another great episode.
YES ANOTHER ADVENTURES IN CARD DEALING VIDEO!!! THESE ARE THE ABSOLUTE BEST!! THANK YOU CHRIS!
Hey Chris.. these are so true and awesome!! The best thing that happened to me was meeting Rod Y.(from La Quinta..we speak of you often in our chats).. he’s a HUGE dealer and seller..anyways he’s pretty much bought all of my extensive collections..and I couldn’t have met a nicer and honest and fair guy!! Thanks for all you do on this site!! Onwards and upwards!!
Gosh I love these stories. If you did a channel on just stories of your adventures in card collecting, and buying, you just might quadruple your sub count. Anyways, thanks for entertaining us again Chris.
Love these stories Chris!
Great stories! Thanks for sharing!
The drug deal was a hoot. Not a PSA hater but you wonder. Beautiful Sandy!
You seem like a good dude. Really enjoy your videos.
Your story is exactly why I buy PSA 9’s, and not PSA 10’s.
When you watch both TH-cam ads in their entirety because the research department has been working overtime.
I’m also in the process of collecting HoF rookies and trying to stay with the mid grade graded popular ones, Eg Paul Pierce of the Celtics, etc. Hopefully be able to move into the baseball 70’s then 60’s.
I think this is my favorite series you do.
Hilarious stories 😂🇨🇦✌️
Gr8 story telling Chris.. The deal with that hippie was interesting..🤔😝 Do you or would you still deal with that guy? Also that first deal sounds like it was going to end bad but alas it ended up being just fine..😍😮 Love these kinds of stories you share.. Take care..👍💕🔥👊
I have long lost touch with him but I would do another deal with him.
Wow what a super card that sandy is love the vid keep it up best chanel on youtube
Had a similar grading experience with bgs about 4 years ago. Sent them in 4 Giannis prizm rookies. 2 came back 9.5 and 1 came back pristine 10. The other for some reason came back a 6! and it looked just as good as all the other ones. \
So i cracked it out looked it over again and it was flawless. Decided to send it back to bgs about 2 months later with a few other cards and when it came back again it graded a bgs 10 pristine.
makes no sense i swear sometimes i think the grading companies do that on purpose cause they know you will resend it in then they will get you for another grading fee.
Love the 420 story 😂😂😂
Great Stories!
HOw the HELL can a card go from a 2 ....to a 7? PSA should be utterly ashamed of themselves.........NO CONSISTENCY whatsoEVER. The damn card should have been a 7 from the damn get-go!
All of the grading companies are scam artists. When are you all going to learn that?
Maybe it is only me, but I don’t like when there isn’t a Regular Rollers, too..
One of my biggest beefs against card graders is that they never give you any indication as to why an item is graded at such and such a level. At least with comic books you are usually provided with grader notes explaining the reasons for their decision. It's long since overdue that card grading companies begin doing the same.
Agreed
The 1955 Koufax is similar to what I'm dealing with right now. Sent in a 1955 Jackie Robinson that probably should have been a 7 but they called it trimmed even though it measured up exactly AND they creased it. I had to send it back to them for them to review and hopefully cover me somehow. They've had it for review for almost 2 months with no word yet if they are going to acknowledge that they damaged it.
Probably Psa is my guess...crooks and scumbags over there
Nice Chris
As always great stories! Thanks for sharing
I have a Psa 2.5 in my collection with similar minute residue (not of Koufax though ) that I will now resubmit. It’s a real beaut and looks like a 7 or 8. Thanks for the idea.
I agree with Ryan B we need to get these animated stat lol
The best way to open up a box of cards is with a Blunt.
Another Banger Chris!
I ❤️ storytime!
PSA is crazy sometimes! Great stories!
Wow I was just looking at some graded Koufax that's still a 6-7k card and I think its way undervalued. I don't know what it's peak was but I think thats a steal even at that price.
love these!
How that Koufax made up through two sets of eyes at PSA as a 2 really makes you question their QA process - I mean, who heads up the process? Ray Charles & Stevie Wonder…
There is no QA process - WW
I like all of your videos but these ones are my favorite
That’s a beautiful card of what I consider the best pitcher who ever threw a baseball. Never sell it because you’ll never find a nicer one-I been doing it 50 years and only have a PSA 5 Sandy Koufax.
I love these vids! Great content as usual Chris! Thanks 🤟
Love story time! Thanks Chris
Good stuff
Been watching your videos for several years. You mentioned living in Europe. How does location complicate running your business & is this your full time occupation? Seems like a fun way to operate. Was curious. I enjoy & look forward to your videos each week. Patrick in Florida.
I travel to the States regularly where I do most of my buying/selling as there is not much of a card market in Europe. I am moving back to the States next month for good.
If PSA sold weed, they would have Thee...most expensives "dimes""!
Neat stories.....
Wow glad I was wrong. Does PSA have a curating level like they do for coins? You know they can take off old bubble gum stains so maybe they could take that off as well?
PSA does not offer that kind of service at all.
Smokin weed and sports cards lol what a combo
About eight years ago, I was told an older gentleman was selling his collection. 33 Goudeys to 1953 Topps, roughly 800 cards. When I went through the binder, mostly minor Hall of Famers and commons in G-VG. I asked him how much for all and he pulled out a sheet of paper as his son had figured the value and he said "2.8 million in cards and all he wanted was 2.3 million". His son had figured out most likely NM or graded prices and when I explained to him what was happening, he got angry and asked me to leave.
I wouldn't even gotten as far as asking for a price. G cards? "Sorry sir, I am not interested in cards in this condition."
Ha! Thats a funny story, I have had something similar but not with 33 Goudeys
@@rlsfrny Nothing wrong with G cards if the price is right and you can flip them for a buck (I was a store owner at the time) and have nice eye appeal.
@@LetsStormTheTeaCupRide True. I am a collector, not a dealer. I do not buy G cards. I have a few cards in my collection that have creases, but that's because I have had them for 50+ years.
entertaining as always :)
The Ruth seller reminds me of some sellers who project their hard feelings on you. Im sure he got scammed for that Ruth at some point, then took it out on you.
PSA = Please Submit Again. But not any more, their new holders are supposed to be uncrackable.
The only thing that would have made these stories better? More Bruce McGill.
I just had a huge order come back and there were quite a few head-scratchers. Still contemplating whether I want to crack or not. They are modern cards and the margins of up one or two grades probably isn't worth it. But, it's almost a matter of principle.
I've only had one seller get angry on me... we had agreed on prices and meetup details and everything... then he reaches out and starts accusing me of trying to rip him off based on the typical flawed reasoning that if a high-graded version of card X sells for $Y then you should be offering me $Y minus $10 or something because my card is perfect, blah, blah... All of my covid card purchases were in parking lots and probably looked like drug deals... even the ones where the sellers insisted on meeting at police stations... The only two times that I have cracked and resubbed to PSA the grades went from 6 to 9... not particularly encouraging endorsement of 'standards', y'know?..
It looked like a drug deal or maybe a weapons' deal.
Getting a 5 grade bump on a regrade makes me wonder what's the biggest loss you have had on a regrade? It can't be more than 1 or 2 grades, I hope.
I dont remember all of them but I recently had a 2-grade loss, from an 8 to a 6 on a modern card.
Glad you didn’t get busted for a perceived drug deal.
"Parking lot in a mall" conjures images of the movie Fargo. Chris comes across as the adult in all these deals 🤣"Look, I'm just trying to buy baseball cards here."
And then potheads wonder how they kept ending up in jail.
Psa grading the same card a 2, then a 7 just shows how stupid grading is, I got multiple 9's that's should be 10's,
2? It Should be the same....right? or rejected? I think (PSA) got ahold of your drugs...
"Avoid suspicion by doing the obvious." If you were doing a drug deal your cohort had everything setup perfectly in that anyone driving by would have said, "gee, that looks like a drug deal but no drug dealer would be that obvious!" Police bust averted.
No sales tax ?
Your 3rd story is why I will never grade cards to try to resell or my pc. Total proof it’s subjective or depends on the person that day grading the card. There’s no science or absolute standard to grading. Until it’s done by AI and there’s zero human element involved grading in my opinion is a waste. I feel like you would be a better grader than some of the people who work for Psa or SGC.
This would be a good application of AI, but it's going to need a company that's not PSA to do it (they won't pull their own pants down).
Have you considered sending bribes to PSA to get better grades?
Man you shoulda ripped that joint with the hippie !! Was his name cheech or chong ?Old hippies always have the best hook ups and price . Coulda been the weed king \ card king
I ever meet you IRL. I'll ask you to go rip some chronic in the parking lot.
So how much did you get the babe Ruth card for?? :)😉
Ha!
I want to hear some stories from your adventures in art dealing. Judging from the artwork on your walls you are *obviously* an art dealer too.
Ha! Those are my son's. He's got talent!
PSA...pot...selling...admin..
just seen all four 33 goudey of the babe in psa 8
Oh wow!
@Baseball Card Collector Investor Dealer chris have ever heard of Marshall fogle? according to sports card investors, the Marshall collection is with around 200 million. if u haven't seen it, he the best 52 mantle in the world esmated around 50 million. psa 10. you all interviews on sports card investor on utube.
still waiting for your trim video. seem awfully involved just ignoring this. we are the same age and I also worked in a hobby shop.