Bajaj Pulsar P150 vs TVS Apache RTR 160 2V | Which is the Best Bike For Young Riders?

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  • The Bajaj Pulsar 150 and TVS Apache RTR 160 have been battling it out for the hearts and minds of young riders since 2016. And that battle rages on today with the recently updated Apache RTR 160 2V and the all-new Pulsar P150. Both bikes offer a good blend of sportiness and everyday usability. But does the updated, but still rather long in the tooth Apache have what it takes to fight the P150, which is hands down the best Pulsar 150 till date?
    Both these bikes take slightly different approaches to wooing the youth, with TVS delivering the more edgy and sharp motorcycle, while Bajaj has built this new Pulsar with a focus on everyday usability, but not completely sacrificing fun in the process. The Apache also brings to the fight a wider plethora of features such as an all LCD instrument console with Bluetooth connectivity as well as three riding modes which change power and torque output and throttle response to suit various riding conditions. The Pulsar on the other hand seems almost basic. But sometimes, going back to the basics is best, right?
    Time Stamps:
    Engine & Performance - 1:06
    Refinement - 2:28
    City Use - 2:57
    Handling - 3:33
    Braking - 5:14
    Ergonomics & Comfort - 5:42
    Fuel Efficiency - 6:12
    Design - 6:41
    Features - 7:45
    Prices - 8:38
    Verdict - 9:02
    Host - Priyadarshan Bawikar
    Editor - Amar Katkar
    DOP - Gaurav Chandrashekhar
    Find more details about the Bajaj Pulsar P150 and TVS Apache RTR 160 2V on the ZigWheels website:
    Pulsar P150: www.zigwheels.com/newbikes/Ba...
    Apache RTR 160 2V: www.zigwheels.com/newbikes/TV...
    Other Pulsar and Apache videos that you might find interesting:
    Bajaj Pulsar P150 Road Test Review - • 2022 Bajaj Pulsar P150...
    TVS Apache RTR 160 4V vs Bajaj Pulsar N160 - • TVS Apache RTR 160 4V ...
    Yamaha MT-15 vs TVS Apache 160 4V - • Yamaha MT-15 V2 vs TVS...
    Do the Apache RTR 160 & 180 2V still make sense - • TVS Apache RTR 160 2V ...
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  • @aprasad666
    @aprasad666 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Damn..that Apache 2V design looks gorgeous even now. It's been around since 2012 and aged like a fine wine. 😍

    • @SuperImbadude
      @SuperImbadude ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They called beast design, more like a joke.

    • @aprasad666
      @aprasad666 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@SuperImbadude It still looks good for my eyes. Maybe a joke for you. Opinion differs.

    • @venukrithish007
      @venukrithish007 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah it's aged very well compared to an NS for eg

    • @onezero8676
      @onezero8676 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Apache looks really good compared to that discover looking p150

  • @vikrantphoenix749
    @vikrantphoenix749 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Case1: The design is very old and doesn't look attractive now.
    Case2: The design is legendary and immortal. Still looks stunning even after decades.
    That's how reviews can be twisting depending upon what they like to say.
    Better, go for what pleases you.

  • @sreeram2464
    @sreeram2464 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I am 12 years Apache user the engine performance is still Young ❤❤❤

  • @nismostrada9433
    @nismostrada9433 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I have been an apache fan all my life because of their acceleration and handling and adrenaline pumping nature. But now at the age of 28 i am leaning towards the new pulsar due to its comfort, refinement and linear & wider torque delivery and its easy going Nature. Even after knowing that this decade old apache 2v could smoke the new pulsar p150 and more expensive N160 at any given time, I'll still go for Pulsar kyuki shayad me ab launde se uncle ho gya hu. 😂😂

  • @chinu0074
    @chinu0074 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I Will still buy an apache for even no reason

    • @11987.
      @11987. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mustaken

    • @HalamNS200xMotul
      @HalamNS200xMotul ปีที่แล้ว

      There is lot of reasons my bro ###

  • @sathiamitthranr7767
    @sathiamitthranr7767 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I own Apache 160 2v.....to me it is the better bike.....the design stayed so long due to its success, also the engine is reliable unlike the competition. I will go for Apache anyday

  • @rdaroga
    @rdaroga ปีที่แล้ว +14

    So the Apache is faster in a straight line, faster in corners, overall more fun to ride, better quality, better reliability, gets more features and will get you better fuel efficiency as well if you use the riding modes. While the Pulsar looks better, is smoother and slower. Is this even a fair comparison?

    • @nteutubechannel4863
      @nteutubechannel4863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Breaks are better in pulsar, it can save lifesand mileage

    • @confidential4712
      @confidential4712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it is bcoz Apache lack refinment most people dont do drag race or 0-100, its all about relax riding comfort. And easy handling and no vibration at all till 90km thats enough. Apache lacks all this and also Pulsar is All new model.. Apache is 10 year old.. ZIG Wheels have not done any mistake we can blindly pic the winner..

  • @raajrane
    @raajrane ปีที่แล้ว +18

    But being honest..I own the TVS RTR APACHE 160 2012 model..and it still works like a charm. No problems faced, no major issues.
    Left it in the corner of my building for a year and started it thereafter and it works beautifully 🥰..ridden it on roads, no roads, off roads..And won't give out issues like the Bajaj and the after sales is good👌🏼
    The parts are a little expensive than the Bajaj counterpart but they last longer.
    The only thing that you would dislike is the vibrations all over the place at any given speed..🥲😐

    • @Sanket117
      @Sanket117 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mileage only 45 😂

    • @armaangirdhar1175
      @armaangirdhar1175 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vibration king hai apache

    • @nemesiszz
      @nemesiszz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      great if thats so ..my old Tvs Victor was thrash..
      or it might be only the higher cc bikes where Tvs has improved

    • @raajrane
      @raajrane ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sanket117 mileage of 45 is something good

    • @raajrane
      @raajrane ปีที่แล้ว

      @@armaangirdhar1175 sahi me bhai 🤣🤣🤣

  • @anwarozr82
    @anwarozr82 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am a 16 year user of Apache 150🥰 ..I love that vibration🔥

  • @ranjishnair5340
    @ranjishnair5340 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    ‘Definitely Male’ is long gone….

    • @ananddarnal6702
      @ananddarnal6702 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Now it's "Definitely FEMALE"

    • @shhb7837
      @shhb7837 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mean while 1000cc bike guys to you "I am lool like gay"😂😂

    • @kulkins8638
      @kulkins8638 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ananddarnal6702 So men riding scooters are feminine? Come on man

    • @Nou-vn3ye
      @Nou-vn3ye ปีที่แล้ว

      Because genderising literal machines is a minus IQ moment.

    • @haridharshan4616
      @haridharshan4616 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wolf shaped headlight turned into dog shaped headlight 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Ekocart1
    @Ekocart1 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    TVS should not give up on semi digital speedometer Bajaj redesign the meter but TVS just slapped rtr200's speedometer.
    I don't know what but there is something intoxicating about Analogue tachometer

    • @haridharshan4616
      @haridharshan4616 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fully digital is really boring only but hereafter TVS won't give analog-digital cluster ☹️☹️☹️

  • @gareebtravelleraniruddha
    @gareebtravelleraniruddha ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't race.
    I need smooth vibe free ride, great suspension, great low rpm torque,
    Relax seating posture, good gas mileage, relax engine on 70 80kmph.
    So, i will pick P 150 anytime.

    • @shrikanthashetty06
      @shrikanthashetty06 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pls go for N160 dual chanel ABS otherwise u may regret

    • @gareebtravelleraniruddha
      @gareebtravelleraniruddha ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shrikanthashetty06 N160 is also good. But i like commuter bikes than sporty...

  • @rishi449
    @rishi449 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apache RTR becouse i am using RTR 180 from 8years to till date engine like new still same feel always no major repairs ntg to maintain any thing RTR🤗🔥😈😎

  • @themachineexplorer
    @themachineexplorer ปีที่แล้ว +7

    RTR rocks at any day🤟🤟

  • @pranavagarwal4818
    @pranavagarwal4818 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    00:39 the best part of the comparison

  • @VivekYadav-068
    @VivekYadav-068 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've APACHE 180 since dec, 2015. Clocked around 75k and no major repairs or problems
    I love my beast no rusting, no electronics problem, no swinging tail, no jumping jacks indicators, no poor handling, very soft and smooth ride not hard and stiff like pulsar handling and ride comfort is very very superior I've done 400 kms in a stretch. Apache is better than Pulsar. Pulsar's are cheap to buy and maintain but APACHE is a class above.

  • @yotarunyt
    @yotarunyt ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sorry Amit Shah...But Apache still looks Macho than lean Pulsar... 😎

  • @mirajacharya
    @mirajacharya ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nailed it again
    💯💯💯💯

  • @humble3454
    @humble3454 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am just awestruck by the fantastic headlight design of the Apache

  • @punitcool1in
    @punitcool1in ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After listing to this Host, even though you cant speak flawlessness, you still can start a TH-cam Channel.

  • @Shahbs
    @Shahbs ปีที่แล้ว +10

    apache . because it just works even after a decade of usage...

  • @ajinkyarokade2902
    @ajinkyarokade2902 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Using a second gen Apache from 10 years ... Engine performance is top notch...

  • @jubin2611
    @jubin2611 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    they should have providede a bigger telescopic forks like FZ

  • @lolitpatil01
    @lolitpatil01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pd has gotten flatter just like pulsar 🔥

  • @safialam5801
    @safialam5801 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Apache is so much fun

  • @paduchurivamshi6826
    @paduchurivamshi6826 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Both our host and pulsar are on a diet💥

  • @kulkins8638
    @kulkins8638 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do u mean by the Apache is analogue in a digital world? It's the one having bluetooth connectivity and riding modes, not the Pulsar.. And by engines, both are 2vs which is seen as an older tech now. Only the monoshock, headlight and gear indicator are the few advanced upgrades in the Pulsar.

  • @spandankumardutta
    @spandankumardutta ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No1 said anything about the tyres & handling? Apache has wider & more gripper tyres than p150 & in handling pulsar can never beat apache!😎

  • @MKhaiz5486
    @MKhaiz5486 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If RTR 160 2v had a Kickstarter, it would have been a lot better than P150

    • @haridharshan4616
      @haridharshan4616 ปีที่แล้ว

      But hereafter TVS won't give a Kickstarter ☹️☹️☹️

    • @haridharshan4616
      @haridharshan4616 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kickstarter is such a good hardware

  • @Dkeralite
    @Dkeralite ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5 years of using Apache 2v. Bike is good. The only part I hate is the vibration.

    • @anwarozr82
      @anwarozr82 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am a 16 year user of Apache 150🥰 ..I love that vibration🔥

  • @sunnym19
    @sunnym19 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please review the Hero Xpulse 200T 4V

  • @Bharathkumar-kb1tj
    @Bharathkumar-kb1tj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Despite the counter balancer, pulsar p150 has vibrations. Warning It's not ultra refined. Go for it only if you don't feel any vibrations. Vibrations are there in footpegs tank and bar ends. Take care. Cheers.

  • @abhaysinghchoudhari3627
    @abhaysinghchoudhari3627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now thats what comparo is with PD..🎉

  • @JagjitSingh-rg9fh
    @JagjitSingh-rg9fh ปีที่แล้ว

    P150 as there is no vibrations so means more refined engine. exhaust and projector headlight adds on more fresh look

  • @Varun_Vidyalink
    @Varun_Vidyalink ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pulsar looks like a grownup Platina with those skinny tyres

  • @praydask2802
    @praydask2802 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Engine doesn't make these bikes better Rider does.

  • @sivarajsivarajm7344
    @sivarajsivarajm7344 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    King once always king that is RTR APACHE

  • @Kanna_B
    @Kanna_B ปีที่แล้ว

    Bajaj should have launched with its N160 engine on discontinued pulsar twin disc bike like honda unicorn 160 bs6.

  • @haridharshan4616
    @haridharshan4616 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank God I got into the great escape with OG Pulsar 150 TD 🤣🤣🤣

  • @evMakeshifter-pro
    @evMakeshifter-pro 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sir pulsar N150 full review video bando

  • @vkAwesomee
    @vkAwesomee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what happened to your video quality

  • @proentertainer5310
    @proentertainer5310 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir n160 ke saath compare Karo apache 160 2v ko please 🙏

  • @salinshrestha5012
    @salinshrestha5012 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fz v3 or p150

  • @vijaybalaji9061
    @vijaybalaji9061 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apache is far better from pulsar. When you ride side by side you know the difference

  • @GAMINGBRO-ge3wd
    @GAMINGBRO-ge3wd วันที่ผ่านมา

    But I buy always apache RTR 160 2v it was friendly in my pocket

  • @arunkris7299
    @arunkris7299 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pulsar model they came and go, but apache models remains same

  • @tamim64vaiii001
    @tamim64vaiii001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waiting for Bangladesh official market

  • @sarathkumar5467
    @sarathkumar5467 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can write it and give you RTR engine will be in same condition after 7to8 yrs also with ready to race mode... Every one knows about pulsar engine after 25k KLM will face power loss and lots of problems...

  • @falcongaming9603
    @falcongaming9603 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I pick Apache bcoz after few time pulsar lost pickup and power its problem in Bajaj pulsar from long time

  • @akhi30
    @akhi30 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apache always legend 🔥bajaj doesn't have guts to make a bike like Apache 🤣

  • @sarveshdeshpande9540
    @sarveshdeshpande9540 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best bike for young riders in every segment
    TVS Raider 125
    Apache RTR 160 4V or Yamaha MT-15
    Pulsar RS 200
    TVS Ronin 225 (looks average)
    HUNTER 350/Classic 350/Meteor 350
    CB 350 RS/ Highness
    P.S. I am not a fan of Dukes. Jawa 42 2.1 is a good bike but lacks reliability and mileage, Jawa bobbers are impractical.

  • @yagyavatikewat7539
    @yagyavatikewat7539 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir Aap log apna review Hindi languages me kijiye. Subscribers and views bahut hi teji se grow honge.

  • @SidOfRivia
    @SidOfRivia ปีที่แล้ว

    Man you've lost a lot of weight, hope everything is fine health wise!

    • @PriyadarshanBawikar
      @PriyadarshanBawikar ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey… yeah dude. Have been working out and eating right for the past few months to get fitter

  • @haridharshan4616
    @haridharshan4616 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pulsar - engine refinement, better instrument cluster and hardwares
    Apache - design, features and city performance

  • @playlikelegends7969
    @playlikelegends7969 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maine abhi ye new apache li hai jo hmsha uper rahegi inn sbse aur usko drive karne ke baad pta laga ki apache ne apni market aise nahi bana rakhi hai...

  • @armaangirdhar1175
    @armaangirdhar1175 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should have tried it in hindi. Totla sound hora hai eng mein.

  • @pratapsingh5601
    @pratapsingh5601 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Only Apache old pulsar

  • @rishi449
    @rishi449 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apache 😍😍😍😍

  • @maverickriderJB
    @maverickriderJB ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr PD has travelled 16 years in time I guess. He has lost so much weight and looks very much younger...

  • @dipjyoti2050
    @dipjyoti2050 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having a comparison between 150 cc and 160 cc bike is not fair. Here, No one is winner

  • @farrelllobo548
    @farrelllobo548 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apache...that reckless animal headlamp. Punchout engine.. totally rocks 🙂👍...a man's bike👍

  • @tonyjoe771
    @tonyjoe771 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pulsar seems to have lost its charm, looks like just another bike on the road

  • @calphaman
    @calphaman ปีที่แล้ว

    Some people still will pick G-Shocks over Apple watches ANYDAY

  • @dineshkumar4148
    @dineshkumar4148 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apache RTR 👑

  • @rizwanahmed8461
    @rizwanahmed8461 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pulsar all-day everyday 💪

  • @fightseen4170
    @fightseen4170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bajaj Pulsar batter bike gear ratio toller side Highway rider batter

  • @UnwindIndia
    @UnwindIndia ปีที่แล้ว

    Apache RTR 160!

  • @racingrider7286
    @racingrider7286 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These days reviews are just based on who hires you and for which bike....
    I mean clearly somehow a story made on without facts and set that P150 is better just because it has new design 🤷

  • @arunkris7299
    @arunkris7299 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apache = performance 🔥

  • @tejaspadhye
    @tejaspadhye ปีที่แล้ว +1

    forget enjoying the ride if youre riding on eurogrips lol

  • @abhishekatcardiff
    @abhishekatcardiff ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can’t understand a word of what this chap says 😒
    Also, what is Pul-saar?

    • @PriyadarshanBawikar
      @PriyadarshanBawikar ปีที่แล้ว

      dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/pulsar

    • @abhishekatcardiff
      @abhishekatcardiff ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PriyadarshanBawikar th-cam.com/video/ZztFl57pxzM/w-d-xo.html
      #IndianPronunciation

  • @sjcreation2208
    @sjcreation2208 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jo v ho, Aaj v Apache mast lagta hai ♥️
    Ek baat hai Apache ka front bohot hi zyada heavy hai.

  • @aruban07
    @aruban07 ปีที่แล้ว

    The guy face expression looks likd Popeye😅

  • @sssrp
    @sssrp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    P150 needs improvements and tweaks...

    • @haridharshan4616
      @haridharshan4616 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only thing is design, twin spark, fat forks and tyres

  • @amey4989
    @amey4989 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From "Definitely Male" to "tiktoker"

  • @nteutubechannel4863
    @nteutubechannel4863 ปีที่แล้ว

    The narrators pronunciation,,, I couldn't understand, sometimes!!!! Is it only for me??

  • @goodbiker4269
    @goodbiker4269 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wrong zigwheels.... The apache is far superior to pulsar p series.... P series just seems like glamour and bajaj is copy cat now.... They copied ktm engine by the name of partnership tho ...now copying yamaha by mt lights on n series and fz25 lights on p series.....
    1st disappointment review from zigwheels.

    • @racingrider7286
      @racingrider7286 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro thats how reviews work....they are paid to say good by brands and also hired by brands...

    • @goodbiker4269
      @goodbiker4269 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@racingrider7286 right said bro... It made me doubt the review as soon as n series came... They were like instantly became fan of that n series which was neither powerful nor it has a design freshness....
      Similar case some motorcycles become instant hit.

  • @rahul2503
    @rahul2503 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apache 💥💥💥

  • @iqbalalam7
    @iqbalalam7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apache 160 2v engine over hitting problem 🔥

  • @samiahmed7056
    @samiahmed7056 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a fake review!
    We all know Apache ya way better

  • @drg3365
    @drg3365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who needs a backache? I'd go for Pulsar anyday . No comparison between the city commuter and backache headache.

  • @sreeram2464
    @sreeram2464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rtr❤❤❤

  • @bhaveshgupta6234
    @bhaveshgupta6234 ปีที่แล้ว

    New pulsar p150 is not up to mark by its design.

  • @armaangirdhar1175
    @armaangirdhar1175 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pulsar ❤️

  • @cruze86
    @cruze86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Xtreme 160R should have included 😂😂

  • @D-info93
    @D-info93 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me pulsar somehow doesn't feel the value for money product as it kind off looks like off and something less. Which Fatboy Apache is offering. Well in the end it's an individual's choice but it's difficult to choose.

  • @bohemiansoul584
    @bohemiansoul584 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    डिस्कवर को मॉडिफाई कर के पोलियो मारा हुआ पल्सर कहा से बना के ले आया रे।

  • @bleray5668
    @bleray5668 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rtr engines are became quicker then old.... example is Rtr 4v.. u have to drive with ear phones n helmet... othetwise disgusting sounds from engine n silencer make u angry... n u may feel u r driving cheeper bike...where as pulsar became more refined then before... example twin disk pulsar 150.. which is unmatchable refinement compared to 2016pulsar.. this is my experience.. I brought rtr4v in 2018 instead of pulsar 180... now I feel sorry about my decision

  • @shubhamchaubey2654
    @shubhamchaubey2654 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Booring video due to the voice

  • @The_TheMaharaja19
    @The_TheMaharaja19 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No bike in this price range would pull like apache does.

  • @hp8319
    @hp8319 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of course pulsar mania

  • @playlikelegends7969
    @playlikelegends7969 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ye channel wale bajaj ka paid promotion kar rahe apne channel pe apache ke age ye sb bike kuch nahi hai sb kuda hai...

  • @senaadi9345
    @senaadi9345 ปีที่แล้ว

    PulsarP150

  • @rinaralte6648
    @rinaralte6648 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bajaj Pulsar: Definitely non-binary
    😁😁😁😁

  • @NISHUGARVU
    @NISHUGARVU ปีที่แล้ว

    0:45 बुड्ढा हो गया है क्या😂

  • @haridharshan4616
    @haridharshan4616 ปีที่แล้ว

    OG Pulsar is a wolf but P150 is a dog 🤣🤣🤣

  • @siddhartharoy8834
    @siddhartharoy8834 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is a pulsaar 🙄

    • @PriyadarshanBawikar
      @PriyadarshanBawikar ปีที่แล้ว

      dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/pulsar

  • @shankarnaik3055
    @shankarnaik3055 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rtr

  • @abhisar8617
    @abhisar8617 ปีที่แล้ว

    Takle hinde

  • @akshaythalkar2485
    @akshaythalkar2485 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Apache is worse with braking