You may be happy to learn that in the original version of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (the book) nurse ratchet ultimately begins losing her control over the patients thanks to Mcmurphy's actions and even after his lobotomy and death, they start signing themselves out of the hospital on their own free will.
You know what, that does make me extremely happy. I always wanted to kick her shins when I see the movie. I'll put the book on my to-read list. Thanks for your input!
@EasilyExplained. the book is also told from Chief's perspective, which is a bit of brilliant narrative direction, since he has a "fly on the wall" perspective of everything that happens, as everyone thinks he's dumb and he gets to see and hear things he's not supposed to.
Agree, she doesn't win at all. Like McMurphy obviously loses in the moment but the patients are no longer under her control as demonstrated by Chief Bromden's ending. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is about a psych ward on its surface level but in a meta-narrative sense, it's about overcoming tyranny and authoritarianism.
I wouldn't say Ozymandias was actually absolutely certain in the moral validity of his decision, yes he does seem to be throughout the last chapter but at the end he contemplates and asks Dr.Manhattan if in the end he made the right choice; he doesn't get a proper answer and stares melancholically back at a globe representing earth, and maybe this serves as an allegory to his doubt, looking at the planet wondering if all the blood he spilled on it was truly the right decision.
I think the difference is that Ozy made the smartest decision possible with all the information he has available, while Dr. Manhattan just has all the information, so Ozy put tons of effort into solving a problem, but he’s asking “god” if he solved it correctly.
I think it’s more of a realization that the peace is only temporary. Humanity will inevitably take up arms against each other eventually, and so it was ultimately a senseless act
Correct. He has become like the protagonist in the Tales of the Black Freighter comic which Bernie was reading. They both committed acts of horror that stripped themselves of their humanity. Ozy became the doom and destruction that he was so concerned about. After all, it was Ozy himself that started the doomsday escalation when he manipulated Manhattan into leaving earth.
You didnt noticed a few things, while Dr. Manhattan holds all the answer and see past, present and future (like us, we can read, jump pages or return a few pages before) he specifically says *"nothing ever ends"* while a cloud form in the globe that the Dr. was phazing through. This cloud had the form of a mushroom cloud *but* combine with Dr. Manhattan final line, it suggest that nuclear war is inevitable but it wont be the end of all life. Making so that Adrian's' plan was only post-poning nuclear anhillation. Adrian Veidt took the name of Ozymandias for two reason, its the Greek name of Ramses II and his role model was Alexander the Great who also became a pharoe, however the real Ozymandias mentionned in the graphic novel has that very line : "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair! Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away." Adrian pointed that Alexander's empire crumbled, Ozymandias' also crumbled. After a taking a bad trip in the desert, Adrian found that he had to be one greater than the pharoe to save the world and worked his way to be a larger than life individual, be paragon of virtue, the embodiment of perfection in warfare and intellect. Even taking up the name Ozymandias as a challenge and having his work stood the tide of history, unlike the real one. Dr. Manhattan last lines were shilling, nothing ever ends but what he worked to stop will happen. One of the main themes in Alan Moore's work is how Art is timeless, saying that a bard's poem against a king is more damaging than a thousand battle. The people remember art and stories, they dont remember men or their great work since they decay and rot in the physical world. What help Adrian's plan to world peace? Artists and scientists making a squid, paralleling Lovecraftian horror to reality. What can bring down his plan? One book, written by one man, expressing all his disgust for humanity and all the proof of Adrian's big lie. In the end, art will be the end of Kings. Ozymandias was immortalized in poem where his work and life was buried in the desert. Adrian work will be brought down by the truth written in a book. But even then, life continues, no matter what happens. *It never ends.*
In 1984, it's actually implied through the use of past tense wording that INGSOC was eventually overthrown. So, yes, while Big Brother won in that story, they still lost in the end. It's actually kind of hopeful when you think about it.
It is probably just a way of sentence construction because sometimes moments in books are awkward in the present tense. And Orwell's whole idea with the book was to represent the potential dangers of authoritarianism and why it is a hole we may never dig ourselves out of. It represents a hopeless society where things either do not progress, or just get worse.
I always found the index pretty interesting too because it explains everything INGSOC done in a history textbook-esque fashion like INGSOC had already fallen and it was something written years in the future when society had fully recovered
Unbreakable (2000) has one of the darkest, bleakest, and most existentially disturbing endings of all time, yet even 25 years later, hardly anyone talks about it.
I saw a video that was about The Joker meeting Spider-Man, and after Peter finished trauma dumping to him, Joker said, "I used to think it only took one bad day for someone to go insane, but now, looking at you, I've really gotta reconsider my life principles"
I really hate that comic because it kinda misunderstands the joker. His worldview wouldn’t be shattered by Peter, he’d just look at him like his next project as he did with Batman. In fact, if he ever learned about what happened to uncle Ben he would laugh his butt off.
Actually, Big Brother and the entirety of Ingsoc fell, because the entire novel of 1984 is written in past tense, indicating that despite the harsh endeavors, freedom won Edit : This is not the only ending, but one of them. My reasoning is like this - Ingsoc had brainwashed the people so much that they didn't even knew how to criticise the government and just thought that everything the government did was fine, yet, 1) The book is written in past tense, and 2) We see a description of Ingsoc's atrocities (which shouldn't even be atrocities to The citizens), indicating that the narrator is from a future where Ingsoc is now incredibly weak, or has already collapsed.
@@pipebombpete.6861 The theme of the novel isn't "Evil always wins" because if u think it is true, you're dumb, the Novel is more or less the critique of world governments around the time of 1947, including Soviet Russia, the US, etc and authoritarianism in general, it doesn't promote authoritarianism, so the conclusion is quite valid
I wouldnt say Ratched won. In the end she lost her voice, her greatest weapon, and weakened her hold on the patients. It was the start of her downfall.
I agree. She was reduced to writing mean notes to the patients With her voice (probably temporarily) gone. If I recall the book ending most of the non commited patients who were there voluntarily stopped being afraid of Ratchet and most left the hospital.
I remember reading it as well back in English class. The way Tessie all of a sudden (obviously) thought that the whole thing was unfair... crazy. I have to read it again soon. Thanks for watching
At the end of The Omen Damian wasn't supposed to smile so his smile was a blooper. However, director Richard Donner thought the smile made the scene more chilling since Damian is the son of Satan so he decided to keep the scene. Smart move.
very good video. we still have so much to learn from these titles, as we look into the world as it is now. i just hope that ours will be a new story, not a repeat and a sign that we've learned nothing at all.
Thank you so much, and thank you for your comment! I agree there is an incredible wisdom in these artworks. Which one is you favorite? I remember very vividly reading 1984. It was so disturbing to me.
What about the greatest hater in all of fiction, AM? Edit: A lot of people are saying AM didn’t win in the end. While I can agree to that, AM didn’t lose either, as humanity was still wiped out and Ted is still being tormented as the weird slug thing. So it’s essentially a stalemate as no one actually won in the end
AM lost in that story. He kept those people alive so that he could have something to keep him from being bored for the eternity that he will live on. An outlet for his hatred. By the end, all but one are dead and the last one is now an immovable, mute slug thing. AM now has simply nothing to do for the rest of his life, and that boredom and pent up rage is his torture, like how Ted literally can’t do anything to help his torture either. But at least Ted’s friends can now rest in peace.
Joker lost tho...like literally why is it folks forget the scene where the ordinary people and the criminals refuse to kill one another and batman straight up tells joker that its not mankind, its just him?
Because that was plan A. Plan B succeeded when he drove Harvey Dent to point a gun at Gordon's son, corrupting Gotham's White Knight and turning Batman into a pariah. Thus, he left the gate open for Bane to come in and break Gotham completely. Joker says that he doesn't have a plan but we always forget. Joker lies.
Because people are subjective and not objective. I know many Millennials that romanticize that film and it's a bit disturbing. It's like how my generation (X) overlooks the bad qualities of Michael Jordan because they desperately want a flawless hero. Just my thoughts.
When I first read The Lottery, it was so chilling. I don't think I'd ever experienced that level of true horror before. The way it slowly built up, mystery gradually dissolving into unimaginable truth, was just unforgettable.
You are slightly wrong about One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Chief eventually rips out the water fountain, throws it through the window, and escapes the mental institution. He fulfills McMurphy's dream.
I just want to remind everyone That the book "1984" is written as a historical piece As at the end Newspeak is spoken about in the past tense and referred to as "was used by" Meaning, Obrien was wrong about everything and Winston was right, eventually someone will stand up to the Party and topple it That "The boot on the face of mankind forever" was pushed back by a new system that undid the horror of "Big Brother"
Hi there, as i wrote to another commenter: It’s pretty cool perspective! That said, I’m not sure if it holds up. If I remember correctly, the other nations (Eurasia and Eastasia, besides Oceania) were totalitarian as well. Orwell’s entire point seemed to be that once a state reaches this level of totalitarianism, there’s no way back. The system becomes self-sustaining because it erases the very idea of resistance. As others are saying in the thread, 1984 being being told in past tense doesn't prove the theory. It’s likely that it is just a narration choice. In addition, I have seen the below argument (after Google’ing around for a bit) “it is an appendix to the book "1984" the same way other books have appendices that are not part of the narrative. For some reason, with zero evidence whatsoever, people think this one is part of the story.” “The appendix is pretty clearly intended to just be an out-of-character essay about an important part of the setting and not a "real document" from the future of Nineteen Eighty-Four's world, although that doesn't seem to have stopped a lot of people on the internet from deciding otherwise.” “It's not presented as a part of the world, it doesn't describe any events that occurred after the end of the main storyline, and its just a discussion of Newspeak as it was at the time of Winston Smith's story rather than a broad historical overview.” Still, your idea of the narrator writing from a future where Ingsoc has fallen is a bit more cheerfull...
@@13thcentury Unless all the states are Democratic. It all makes sense since end-stage Democracy is always tyranny. We are the good guys because we said so.
@EasilyExplained. Oh absolutely, but as someone said once The Party needs to win every single day to have it's victory, men just need to win once. I believe as long as the human spirit endures within people, systems like that cannot last forever. At a certain point, the face below the boot grabs it with all their might, lifting it up and yelling "NO MORE"
you forgot probably the most chilling representation of evil winning the original wicker man. What makes that so chilling is that no one comes to rescue him, and he knows that isn't going to happen his horrific fate is assured all hope gone
The Lottery reminds me of Klaasohm. A violent woman beating ritual from Borkum. It was a 200 year old tradition that nobody questioned and the victims always were silenced until a documentary showed it last year to the world
Thank you so much for letting me know about this! Just read the wiki. It is exactly the same mechanics behind that behaviour! Do you have the name of the documentary?
i wouldnt say nurse ratched won, mac took away her voice heavily so she can't as easily control or intimidate the ward. in the last scence after chief's escape, all the patients seem much more happy and like their own people
I genuinely think Heath Ledger's portrayal and the Arkham games are where the Joker was at his peak as a character. Nowadays he's mostly used in the comics for shock value if he does show up, and it feels more like plot armor to cash in on his name instead of him being the puppet master who craves nothing but chaos.
Great video -at the end of Animal Farm (in the cartoon movie, not sure 100% in the book) , the rest of animals revolt and destroy the Pigs -I would say that Nurse Ratchet was 50-50 win/loose because the indian escapes to freedom
In the book it ends with the pigs having dinner with the humans although for me it seemed like an unstable thing the humans and pigs had which does aling with the mule phrase "mules live a long tume" which could represnt that animals have had control of a farm but i didnt last much
Ratchet also gets strangled by Randle close to the end and though it doesn't kill her, her throat and windpipe are badly damaged and she seems a lot more frail and less intimidating because of it... so in a way he did damage her authority and make the others fear her less.
You could say that Dr. Gaul from the ballad of songbirds and snakes is a villain who won since she succeeded in corrupting Coriolanus Snow into believing in the hunger games and led to the event becoming more publicly viewed
Hey man, I will se what I can do about that part 2. I will have to watch the movie first, so maybe it will be in part 3. Stay tuned and thank you so much for the input!
Shutter Island also has a pretty dark ending. It’s not a horror movie you remember because it’s scary but because of the message of psychological traumatisation it portrays
A very dark ending! I just don't feel like there is a clear antagonist/villain. I know several people who insist that Leo's character is not mentally ill, but it is all a rose set up by Ben Kingsley's character. But i might be able to something ala "the villain is society" in The Lottery and 1984, Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching!
Sorry for catfishing you. 😅 Originally, Ozymandias is a poem written by an English guy. The poem is about, hybris and arrogance resulting in fallen empires. Which is why the Breaking Bad episode is named like that, it is the episode Walters empire crumples! Truly amazing television! Ozymandias in the comics named himself like this, because he is an Egyptophile. (Ozymanidas means pharaoh in Greek) And, well he is also arrogant as f. Thanks for watching anyway!
@EasilyExplained.Ozymandias is one of my favorite villains ever. I don't mean to nerd on you, but Ozymandias doesn't exactly mean Pharaoh. It's like the pen name of Ramesses II, who was a pharaoh. It's people like this and Alexander The Great that Ozzy looked up to. 'the only person he felt kinship to.' Anyway, I loved the video.
@@yael4627you are correct! Husband of Mary Shelley, the woman who also wrote Frankenstein. They were freaky... Like opium orgies and lose your virginity on your mom's grave kind of freaky.
@EasilyExplained. Ozymandias' name is also an allusion to the Shelley poem, with Dr Manhatten suggesting that his solution will ultimately fall to time and hubris.
Damien is also based off of Damien from the novel ‘The Life of Emil Sinclair’ which Damien is written as a mysterious harbinger of change and order. Emil, who is relentlessly bullied by Franz Kromer, to the point where Kromer has complete control over Emil’s life is saved from his bullies by a chance encounter with a seemingly mysterious and equally terrifying Damien. Damien is a fellow school classmate who is able to just make Kromer bow to Emil for forgiveness with a simple hand gesture. It’s a good read if you are fine with surreal imagery.
I checked it out and even if Nurse Ratchet has been able to defeat the main character, he ultimately wins, since she loses the control over the patients, being too weak for rapresent an actual threat for them
Two of the most disturbing antagonists I ever encountered from a film are The Wolf and The Nothing from The Neverending Story. The Nothing represents absolute hopelessness - loss of creativity, the failure of dreams, and the ultimate death of the human spirit in the hearts and minds of everyone. It’s frightening because it’s real. That’s why the movie makes you question whether the protagonist is reading the story or living it- and the lines between human potential and human action. Do you choose to dream?
I wanted to bring water margin the Water Margin, commonly known in English as Outlaws of the Marsh, is a story about a group of outlaws who become local heroes after first fighting the local government and later saving the region from a nomadic invasion The ending original story that Song Jiang himself is eventually poisoned to death by the "Four Treacherous Ministers" - Gao Qiu, Yang Jian, Tong Guan and Cai Jing
in both the animal farm movies, the pigs die. In the animated one, the animals break down the house and kill the pigs, while in the live action one, the animals just leave and the farm collapses into ruin, possibly due to the live action one being written after the soviet union died
It should be stressed that everyone in the Watchmen only really half wins, half loses, including ozymandiaz. The final frames of the book reveal that Rorschach's diary successfully made it to the New York Times to be published, meaning that Ozy's entire plan would be revealed to the world, and the lie covering his entire plot would be shattered
when i watched Seven with my family, everyone thought there was the severed head of the protagonist's wife, inside the box, except for my mother, she thought it was their unborn fetus, beccause that is the worst thing she could think off. Just thought about sharing this.
If you’ve never read, “The Troop” by Nick Cutter I’d recommend it where the ‘villains’ win. I won’t get into spoilers but I’ll just say a group of kids gets into such a bad situation out of their control but at the end of the book, their story is never revealed to the public due to government safety. Imagine terrible things happening to you and your friends but the people who caused it are never brought to justice.
Hey man, I have not read that one. Thanks for the recommendation! Kinda sounds like the plot of Stranger Things season one, but without the good ending
Oh boy, I just can't wait to read all of the comments from people who never read 1984 talking about how asking them to not use racial or homophobic slurs is just like Big Brother.
I’d say it was a partial victory for the Joker. While he succeeds in corrupting Harvey he fails in getting the people in the boats to blow up the other boat and he fails to provoke Batman into killing him.
Montresor from The Cask of Amontillado by Poe, Stanley Kowalski from A Streetcar Named Desire by Williams, and Lemorne from The Vanishing by Tim Krabbé.
I highly recommend actually reading these stories if you found them interesting. This was a good summary, but only by reading will you do them justice.
Technically, Nurse Ratched didn't win as Chief was also put in the asylum, instead of admitting himself to it and because he's the lead character of the novel, he was the "one who flew over the cuckoos nest" so he escaped from her plus most of the other patients could just sign themselves out, Frankenstein's monster would be a better fit as it was able to successfully get its revenge against its creator.
Damn... You were smart, man. For some reason, this topic has taken off. I thought it was the cover, but it's not the subject at all. Replicate this type of cover and make the most of it, and growth is certain (look at the example of Nonagon). Edit: Just be more consistent in your thumbnails. You were using a nice style in your first two videos, but then you changed completely. People who watch your channel and aren't subscribed thought it was another channel and didn't click on the video. That's why consistency is important. Enjoy.
Yes totally agrees! I am currently rewatching Stranger Things. The plot armor is just.... ugh. "Oh the monster eats everyone it sees immediately? Let's let it slam the main characters into a wall 38 times instead, we cant have them die on us"
@EasilyExplained. Yeah, I tried watching stranger things and really liked it but after the third season I began rooting for for the monster to win already.
The Lottery is just society in a nutshell. Demonstrates two of it's flaws. No one questions customs and culture, and that people hardly hesitate to bring down those singled out by the whole.
Nurse Ratched does remain in charge. In the move, Chief frees McMurphy from his near vegetative state, and escapes the institution. So, not a total victory.
you THINK Batman wins at the end of every movie, game, or tv series he's in, but the Joker is the real winner because he can just break out of arkham anytime he wants cuz he has weapons smuggled into jail for him and he knows that every week he's one step closer to cracking and eventually mentally breaking the bat.
Yes! I agree. The awesome thing about Nolan's Batman trilogy was that we actually saw the mental and physical toll that being a vigilante took on Bruce over the course of the three movies
Throughout The Entire Franchise Of A Nightmare On Elm Street Which Consists Of 7 Movies There Are Only 3 People Who Survive Freddy, One Of Them Being Jason Voorhees
Nancy Thomas the main protagonist ends up dying as well in the third. Yes her death gets recon and she basically comes back but still I agree. Only six characters survive throughout nightmare on Elm Street
@jacksond1299 In The 8th Movie Titled "Wes Craven's New Nightmare" Freddy Goes After Heather Langenkamp The Actress Who Portrayed Nancy And The Entire Movie Is A Metaphor And A Commentary On The Actors Famous For Their Roles Trying To Escape Their Iconic Characters. And The Plot Of That Movie Was Out Of Universe With The 7 Main Movies
never thought about this. i always think of jason as the slaughter god because he def kills the most by far but he always leaves some alive. freddy is a bit more of a completionist.
Didn't happen in the book. The book ends with the mule looking through the window and sees the pigs having a feast with humans, and the mule couldn't tell which was which.
@EasilyExplained. I mean he did get Ted at the end. Sure everyone else escaped but he is able to torture Ted for eternity. Or if you played the game any other character.
Ozymandias' "thirty five minutes ago" line is absolutely nuts
I was actually in shock after reading it
it was likely even earlier, but he just didnt want the heroes to despair to much and it would serve no purpose to brag about it
Taking the notorious “Villain grandstands before he’s won” trope and flipping it on its head
Yeah, he really made the heroes look stupid on that one..
It's been nearly twenty years since my first read, but I still remember my audible gasp when I read it. It really was an amazing response.
You forgot to mention a certain someone who dances all night and says he will never die.
Hey man, thank you for your comment! Maybe Judge Holden will show up in part 2. Stay tuned
@EasilyExplained. Can't wait to see it dude!
Mario?
i wonder if am from ihnmaims would also count?
The.....Judge
You may be happy to learn that in the original version of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (the book) nurse ratchet ultimately begins losing her control over the patients thanks to Mcmurphy's actions and even after his lobotomy and death, they start signing themselves out of the hospital on their own free will.
Not to mention McMurphy strangled Nurse Ratchet before getting lobotomized. Taking her authoritative voice away, causing her power to deflate
You know what, that does make me extremely happy. I always wanted to kick her shins when I see the movie. I'll put the book on my to-read list. Thanks for your input!
@EasilyExplained. the book is also told from Chief's perspective, which is a bit of brilliant narrative direction, since he has a "fly on the wall" perspective of everything that happens, as everyone thinks he's dumb and he gets to see and hear things he's not supposed to.
Yep, really funny I saw this video, because I finished the book earlier today! Bittersweet ending definitely, but Ratched certainly loses.
Agree, she doesn't win at all. Like McMurphy obviously loses in the moment but the patients are no longer under her control as demonstrated by Chief Bromden's ending. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is about a psych ward on its surface level but in a meta-narrative sense, it's about overcoming tyranny and authoritarianism.
I wouldn't say Ozymandias was actually absolutely certain in the moral validity of his decision, yes he does seem to be throughout the last chapter but at the end he contemplates and asks Dr.Manhattan if in the end he made the right choice; he doesn't get a proper answer and stares melancholically back at a globe representing earth, and maybe this serves as an allegory to his doubt, looking at the planet wondering if all the blood he spilled on it was truly the right decision.
I think the difference is that Ozy made the smartest decision possible with all the information he has available, while Dr. Manhattan just has all the information, so Ozy put tons of effort into solving a problem, but he’s asking “god” if he solved it correctly.
"In the end?" Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends
I think it’s more of a realization that the peace is only temporary. Humanity will inevitably take up arms against each other eventually, and so it was ultimately a senseless act
Correct. He has become like the protagonist in the Tales of the Black Freighter comic which Bernie was reading. They both committed acts of horror that stripped themselves of their humanity. Ozy became the doom and destruction that he was so concerned about. After all, it was Ozy himself that started the doomsday escalation when he manipulated Manhattan into leaving earth.
You didnt noticed a few things, while Dr. Manhattan holds all the answer and see past, present and future (like us, we can read, jump pages or return a few pages before) he specifically says *"nothing ever ends"* while a cloud form in the globe that the Dr. was phazing through.
This cloud had the form of a mushroom cloud *but* combine with Dr. Manhattan final line, it suggest that nuclear war is inevitable but it wont be the end of all life. Making so that Adrian's' plan was only post-poning nuclear anhillation.
Adrian Veidt took the name of Ozymandias for two reason, its the Greek name of Ramses II and his role model was Alexander the Great who also became a pharoe, however the real Ozymandias mentionned in the graphic novel has that very line :
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
Adrian pointed that Alexander's empire crumbled, Ozymandias' also crumbled. After a taking a bad trip in the desert, Adrian found that he had to be one greater than the pharoe to save the world and worked his way to be a larger than life individual, be paragon of virtue, the embodiment of perfection in warfare and intellect. Even taking up the name Ozymandias as a challenge and having his work stood the tide of history, unlike the real one.
Dr. Manhattan last lines were shilling, nothing ever ends but what he worked to stop will happen. One of the main themes in Alan Moore's work is how Art is timeless, saying that a bard's poem against a king is more damaging than a thousand battle. The people remember art and stories, they dont remember men or their great work since they decay and rot in the physical world.
What help Adrian's plan to world peace? Artists and scientists making a squid, paralleling Lovecraftian horror to reality.
What can bring down his plan? One book, written by one man, expressing all his disgust for humanity and all the proof of Adrian's big lie.
In the end, art will be the end of Kings. Ozymandias was immortalized in poem where his work and life was buried in the desert. Adrian work will be brought down by the truth written in a book.
But even then, life continues, no matter what happens. *It never ends.*
In 1984, it's actually implied through the use of past tense wording that INGSOC was eventually overthrown. So, yes, while Big Brother won in that story, they still lost in the end. It's actually kind of hopeful when you think about it.
It is probably just a way of sentence construction because sometimes moments in books are awkward in the present tense. And Orwell's whole idea with the book was to represent the potential dangers of authoritarianism and why it is a hole we may never dig ourselves out of. It represents a hopeless society where things either do not progress, or just get worse.
I always found the index pretty interesting too because it explains everything INGSOC done in a history textbook-esque fashion like INGSOC had already fallen and it was something written years in the future when society had fully recovered
If there is hope, it lays in the proles.
Why would it be 'kind of hopeful'?
In this reality, the 'baddies' win all the time and get to rewrite history😊
Unbreakable (2000) has one of the darkest, bleakest, and most existentially disturbing endings of all time, yet even 25 years later, hardly anyone talks about it.
Good
Let's hope it stays that way
@Hellbat69 Shots fired! Fortunately, no damage was done, because the target was
Unbreakable
@@sifatshams1113 mmmm i wonder it theres diamonds in unbrekable
Since yknow
Diamond is unbreakable
@@mimimimo455 I've never even seen it, yet I somehow know that's a JoJo reference.
Yup
I saw a video that was about The Joker meeting Spider-Man, and after Peter finished trauma dumping to him, Joker said, "I used to think it only took one bad day for someone to go insane, but now, looking at you, I've really gotta reconsider my life principles"
I really hate that comic because it kinda misunderstands the joker.
His worldview wouldn’t be shattered by Peter, he’d just look at him like his next project as he did with Batman. In fact, if he ever learned about what happened to uncle Ben he would laugh his butt off.
Yeah no joker ain't such a nice guy
The moment he learns of Peter Parkers past, you beg he is going use that to torture him mentally
Actually, Big Brother and the entirety of Ingsoc fell, because the entire novel of 1984 is written in past tense, indicating that despite the harsh endeavors, freedom won
Edit : This is not the only ending, but one of them. My reasoning is like this -
Ingsoc had brainwashed the people so much that they didn't even knew how to criticise the government and just thought that everything the government did was fine, yet, 1) The book is written in past tense, and 2) We see a description of Ingsoc's atrocities (which shouldn't even be atrocities to The citizens), indicating that the narrator is from a future where Ingsoc is now incredibly weak, or has already collapsed.
or maybe the last civilization
That would defy the whole meaning of the book and every theme in it.whoever told you this is an idiot
the narrative being told as a retrospective doesn't mean prove what you are saying
@@pipebombpete.6861 Or maybe thinks more than you
@@pipebombpete.6861 The theme of the novel isn't "Evil always wins" because if u think it is true, you're dumb, the Novel is more or less the critique of world governments around the time of 1947, including Soviet Russia, the US, etc and authoritarianism in general, it doesn't promote authoritarianism, so the conclusion is quite valid
I wouldnt say Ratched won. In the end she lost her voice, her greatest weapon, and weakened her hold on the patients. It was the start of her downfall.
I agree. She was reduced to writing mean notes to the patients With her voice (probably temporarily) gone. If I recall the book ending most of the non commited patients who were there voluntarily stopped being afraid of Ratchet and most left the hospital.
The Lottery is still one of my favorite short stories of all time, one that just stuck with me when I red it in school
I remember reading it as well back in English class. The way Tessie all of a sudden (obviously) thought that the whole thing was unfair... crazy. I have to read it again soon. Thanks for watching
I remember doing that in 7th grade. Didn’t realize it was that well known. Good story.
The lottery one made me stop my gambling addiction. Who knows what would happen if I were to win? Real good video, simple and short!
I am very happy to hear that! The things literature can do.. Happy you liked the video as well.
At the end of The Omen Damian wasn't supposed to smile so his smile was a blooper. However, director Richard Donner thought the smile made the scene more chilling since Damian is the son of Satan so he decided to keep the scene. Smart move.
Love that you put a picture to show which one is next really helps get to the ones Ik but the video was so good I watched them all
Thanks, glad you liked it and stayed for the whole thing!
very good video. we still have so much to learn from these titles, as we look into the world as it is now. i just hope that ours will be a new story, not a repeat and a sign that we've learned nothing at all.
Thank you so much, and thank you for your comment! I agree there is an incredible wisdom in these artworks. Which one is you favorite? I remember very vividly reading 1984. It was so disturbing to me.
What about the greatest hater in all of fiction, AM?
Edit: A lot of people are saying AM didn’t win in the end. While I can agree to that, AM didn’t lose either, as humanity was still wiped out and Ted is still being tormented as the weird slug thing. So it’s essentially a stalemate as no one actually won in the end
Yeah, I feel like he could’ve been on here
AM deserved a spot.
Let me tell you how much I’ve come to hate you…
Yes but he kind of lose by the end of the story
AM lost in that story. He kept those people alive so that he could have something to keep him from being bored for the eternity that he will live on. An outlet for his hatred. By the end, all but one are dead and the last one is now an immovable, mute slug thing. AM now has simply nothing to do for the rest of his life, and that boredom and pent up rage is his torture, like how Ted literally can’t do anything to help his torture either. But at least Ted’s friends can now rest in peace.
Why are the small TH-camrs always so good
this is AI
because they copy other big channels' video styles.
They make that good shit because TH-cam isn’t telling them to do it
@@gggreatnessah yes, making a list is copying 😂
@ this entire video format, is ripped off of other youtubers, wtf are you smoking?
6:18 Ah yes, my favorite author, "Geroge Orwell."
Bro, you got me.
AH yes ,Erci Arthru Balir
Jor Jor Well
Joker lost tho...like literally why is it folks forget the scene where the ordinary people and the criminals refuse to kill one another and batman straight up tells joker that its not mankind, its just him?
Because that was plan A. Plan B succeeded when he drove Harvey Dent to point a gun at Gordon's son, corrupting Gotham's White Knight and turning Batman into a pariah. Thus, he left the gate open for Bane to come in and break Gotham completely.
Joker says that he doesn't have a plan but we always forget. Joker lies.
As @ashleightompkins3200 says. Thanks for watching!
They like ledger. I think he even told Bale to get more into beating him up in jail.
Nah.. he won. He literally broke Batman and Dent. Plunged Gotham into darkness
Because people are subjective and not objective. I know many Millennials that romanticize that film and it's a bit disturbing. It's like how my generation (X) overlooks the bad qualities of Michael Jordan because they desperately want a flawless hero. Just my thoughts.
I literally just read the book and was extremely Sad when it ended. Thanks for explaining 1984.
You are welcome my guy. Love that book!
When I first read The Lottery, it was so chilling. I don't think I'd ever experienced that level of true horror before. The way it slowly built up, mystery gradually dissolving into unimaginable truth, was just unforgettable.
You are slightly wrong about One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Chief eventually rips out the water fountain, throws it through the window, and escapes the mental institution. He fulfills McMurphy's dream.
I just want to remind everyone
That the book "1984" is written as a historical piece
As at the end Newspeak is spoken about in the past tense and referred to as "was used by"
Meaning, Obrien was wrong about everything and Winston was right, eventually someone will stand up to the Party and topple it
That "The boot on the face of mankind forever" was pushed back by a new system that undid the horror of "Big Brother"
Hi there, as i wrote to another commenter:
It’s pretty cool perspective!
That said, I’m not sure if it holds up. If I remember correctly, the other nations (Eurasia and Eastasia, besides Oceania) were totalitarian as well. Orwell’s entire point seemed to be that once a state reaches this level of totalitarianism, there’s no way back. The system becomes self-sustaining because it erases the very idea of resistance.
As others are saying in the thread, 1984 being being told in past tense doesn't prove the theory. It’s likely that it is just a narration choice.
In addition, I have seen the below argument (after Google’ing around for a bit)
“it is an appendix to the book "1984" the same way other books have appendices that are not part of the narrative. For some reason, with zero evidence whatsoever, people think this one is part of the story.”
“The appendix is pretty clearly intended to just be an out-of-character essay about an important part of the setting and not a "real document" from the future of Nineteen Eighty-Four's world, although that doesn't seem to have stopped a lot of people on the internet from deciding otherwise.”
“It's not presented as a part of the world, it doesn't describe any events that occurred after the end of the main storyline, and its just a discussion of Newspeak as it was at the time of Winston Smith's story rather than a broad historical overview.”
Still, your idea of the narrator writing from a future where Ingsoc has fallen is a bit more cheerfull...
As long as men and women like Winston and Julia exist, Big Brother has not won.
All other states could be democratic tbh.
Everything we know comes from Ingsoc
@@13thcentury Unless all the states are Democratic. It all makes sense since end-stage Democracy is always tyranny. We are the good guys because we said so.
@EasilyExplained. Oh absolutely, but as someone said once
The Party needs to win every single day to have it's victory, men just need to win once.
I believe as long as the human spirit endures within people, systems like that cannot last forever.
At a certain point, the face below the boot grabs it with all their might, lifting it up and yelling "NO MORE"
omg i think i just found my new favourite youtuber. Keep doing you bro I'm LOVING the content!!
you forgot probably the most chilling representation of evil winning the original wicker man. What makes that so chilling is that no one comes to rescue him, and he knows that isn't going to happen his horrific fate is assured all hope gone
Hey man, glad you mention The Wicker Man!!! That will be in part 3. The original one, not the Cage one..
or the crappy sequel the wicker tree
You’ve seem to have found your golden egg! Keep making videos about cinema and I’m sure your subscriber count will skyrocket! Best of luck
The Lottery reminds me of Klaasohm. A violent woman beating ritual from Borkum. It was a 200 year old tradition that nobody questioned and the victims always were silenced until a documentary showed it last year to the world
Thank you so much for letting me know about this! Just read the wiki. It is exactly the same mechanics behind that behaviour!
Do you have the name of the documentary?
Excellent video really well done
Thank you so much! Really appreciate your comment!
i wouldnt say nurse ratched won, mac took away her voice heavily so she can't as easily control or intimidate the ward. in the last scence after chief's escape, all the patients seem much more happy and like their own people
yeah it did feel like mcmurphy sacrificed himself and his actions had an impact.
I genuinely think Heath Ledger's portrayal and the Arkham games are where the Joker was at his peak as a character. Nowadays he's mostly used in the comics for shock value if he does show up, and it feels more like plot armor to cash in on his name instead of him being the puppet master who craves nothing but chaos.
Man, I love Watchmen so much.
“Do it? It was done 35 minutes ago.”
Great video
-at the end of Animal Farm (in the cartoon movie, not sure 100% in the book) , the rest of animals revolt and destroy the Pigs
-I would say that Nurse Ratchet was 50-50 win/loose because the indian escapes to freedom
They didn't destroyed them on the books
In Animal Farm (the book) the pigs win. I haven’t actually seen the animated movie.
In the book it ends with the pigs having dinner with the humans although for me it seemed like an unstable thing the humans and pigs had which does aling with the mule phrase "mules live a long tume" which could represnt that animals have had control of a farm but i didnt last much
Ratchet also gets strangled by Randle close to the end and though it doesn't kill her, her throat and windpipe are badly damaged and she seems a lot more frail and less intimidating because of it... so in a way he did damage her authority and make the others fear her less.
in the end of the book, the pigs win and at that point behaved exactly like humans
You could say that Dr. Gaul from the ballad of songbirds and snakes is a villain who won since she succeeded in corrupting Coriolanus Snow into believing in the hunger games and led to the event becoming more publicly viewed
For a part two, I nominate Noah Cross from ‘Chinatown.’ He gets away with murders and things almost worse.
Hey man, I will se what I can do about that part 2. I will have to watch the movie first, so maybe it will be in part 3. Stay tuned and thank you so much for the input!
@EasilyExplained.It’s a movie worth watching more than once. Suffice it to say that murder is not his most shocking crime.
Nurse Ratchet didn't leave unscathed as Randall's attempts to strangle her damaged her voice
She definitely did not win, as one could argue Murphy sacrificed himself to make the others no longer fear her.
@nickellead she won the battle but lost the war
Shutter Island also has a pretty dark ending. It’s not a horror movie you remember because it’s scary but because of the message of psychological traumatisation it portrays
A very dark ending! I just don't feel like there is a clear antagonist/villain. I know several people who insist that Leo's character is not mentally ill, but it is all a rose set up by Ben Kingsley's character.
But i might be able to something ala "the villain is society" in The Lottery and 1984,
Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching!
Nice video man! You’ve earned a sub!
Great vid rlly entertaining
So happy you liked it. Thanks
I thought Ozymandias was about Breaking bad😭🙏
Sorry for catfishing you. 😅
Originally, Ozymandias is a poem written by an English guy. The poem is about, hybris and arrogance resulting in fallen empires. Which is why the Breaking Bad episode is named like that, it is the episode Walters empire crumples!
Truly amazing television!
Ozymandias in the comics named himself like this, because he is an Egyptophile. (Ozymanidas means pharaoh in Greek) And, well he is also arrogant as f.
Thanks for watching anyway!
by Percy Bysshe Shelley I believe
@EasilyExplained.Ozymandias is one of my favorite villains ever. I don't mean to nerd on you, but Ozymandias doesn't exactly mean Pharaoh. It's like the pen name of Ramesses II, who was a pharaoh. It's people like this and Alexander The Great that Ozzy looked up to. 'the only person he felt kinship to.' Anyway, I loved the video.
@@yael4627you are correct! Husband of Mary Shelley, the woman who also wrote Frankenstein.
They were freaky... Like opium orgies and lose your virginity on your mom's grave kind of freaky.
@EasilyExplained. Ozymandias' name is also an allusion to the Shelley poem, with Dr Manhatten suggesting that his solution will ultimately fall to time and hubris.
Damien is also based off of Damien from the novel ‘The Life of Emil Sinclair’ which Damien is written as a mysterious harbinger of change and order. Emil, who is relentlessly bullied by Franz Kromer, to the point where Kromer has complete control over Emil’s life is saved from his bullies by a chance encounter with a seemingly mysterious and equally terrifying Damien. Damien is a fellow school classmate who is able to just make Kromer bow to Emil for forgiveness with a simple hand gesture. It’s a good read if you are fine with surreal imagery.
Thank you so much for the recommendation ! Will check it out!
I checked it out and even if Nurse Ratchet has been able to defeat the main character, he ultimately wins, since she loses the control over the patients, being too weak for rapresent an actual threat for them
Ozymandias and the whole watchmen in general is highly underrated
I really loved this video, I subscribed.
George Orwell's 1984 is more revelant today than ever. Sadly. Highly recommend reading.
Kevin Spacey is a brilliant actor. His Seven performance gave me goosebumps.
Too bad he is a monster irl too.
I made a book in 1st grade. It was the big bad eyes vs the never ending hat. The big bad eyes won. The end. What a sad ending.
Sounds like a real bestseller. Did you ever publish!?
@ …no ☹️
Two of the most disturbing antagonists I ever encountered from a film are The Wolf and The Nothing from The Neverending Story. The Nothing represents absolute hopelessness - loss of creativity, the failure of dreams, and the ultimate death of the human spirit in the hearts and minds of everyone. It’s frightening because it’s real. That’s why the movie makes you question whether the protagonist is reading the story or living it- and the lines between human potential and human action. Do you choose to dream?
I wanted to bring water margin the Water Margin, commonly known in English as Outlaws of the Marsh, is a story about a group of outlaws who become local heroes after first fighting the local government and later saving the region from a nomadic invasion
The ending original story that Song Jiang himself is eventually poisoned to death by the "Four Treacherous Ministers" - Gao Qiu, Yang Jian, Tong Guan and Cai Jing
in both the animal farm movies, the pigs die. In the animated one, the animals break down the house and kill the pigs, while in the live action one, the animals just leave and the farm collapses into ruin, possibly due to the live action one being written after the soviet union died
0:51 INGSOC, not ENGSOC.
You are absolutely right. I totally forgot about the correct newspeak way. Thanks for noticing!
@ “TOO LATE. THE THOUGHT POLICE ARE HERE!“
(No problem, my guy. Great video!)
Are saying the Party is wrong... ?
Ministry of Love want a word 😅
@@13thcentury Even _suggesting_ that someone else is _suggesting_ the party is wrong is a thought crime enough to end up in the ministry of love.
@@Evzone1821 To the chestnut tree cafe I go 😆
The stuff about Harvey Dent's role in the Dark Knight is stuff I didn't even realize while watching the movie. Thank you.
It should be stressed that everyone in the Watchmen only really half wins, half loses, including ozymandiaz. The final frames of the book reveal that Rorschach's diary successfully made it to the New York Times to be published, meaning that Ozy's entire plan would be revealed to the world, and the lie covering his entire plot would be shattered
when i watched Seven with my family, everyone thought there was the severed head of the protagonist's wife, inside the box, except for my mother, she thought it was their unborn fetus, beccause that is the worst thing she could think off. Just thought about sharing this.
Bro. hah
If you’ve never read, “The Troop” by Nick Cutter I’d recommend it where the ‘villains’ win. I won’t get into spoilers but I’ll just say a group of kids gets into such a bad situation out of their control but at the end of the book, their story is never revealed to the public due to government safety. Imagine terrible things happening to you and your friends but the people who caused it are never brought to justice.
Hey man, I have not read that one. Thanks for the recommendation! Kinda sounds like the plot of Stranger Things season one, but without the good ending
That's just real life
“Some are more equal than other.”
Oh boy, I just can't wait to read all of the comments from people who never read 1984 talking about how asking them to not use racial or homophobic slurs is just like Big Brother.
Im actually the biggest Shirley Jackson fan so I love that you talked about the lottery its one of her best
“Some animals are equal, but some are more equal then others”
Woo-Jin from Oldboy belongs on this list too
He still lost. After achieving his revenge, he lost all reason to live and his sister is still dead in the end. Hence why he takes his own life
And Kaiser Soze
Yeah that MF really won in the end
Joker was a mega Christian as he showed that even the bravest the wisest will be corrupted like the white knight/lucifer will be corrupted/sin
Audrey 2 of "The little shop of horrors" deserves a spot on this list
It was a happy ending.
@dallassegno Actually not, the original story Audrey 2 wins eating Seymour and Audrey.
I’d say it was a partial victory for the Joker. While he succeeds in corrupting Harvey he fails in getting the people in the boats to blow up the other boat and he fails to provoke Batman into killing him.
1:54 my actions are utterly unclouded they are all of justice
Montresor from The Cask of Amontillado by Poe, Stanley Kowalski from A Streetcar Named Desire by Williams, and Lemorne from The Vanishing by Tim Krabbé.
I wouldn't say Ratched won; her grip is broken
George Orwell has caused pain everywhere, like scarring through stories and English students
Now this is literally 1984
i remember reading animal farm and when i finished it i remember thinking "...oh. OH."
Big brother became big daddy
I highly recommend actually reading these stories if you found them interesting. This was a good summary, but only by reading will you do them justice.
Technically, Nurse Ratched didn't win as Chief was also put in the asylum, instead of admitting himself to it and because he's the lead character of the novel, he was the "one who flew over the cuckoos nest" so he escaped from her plus most of the other patients could just sign themselves out, Frankenstein's monster would be a better fit as it was able to successfully get its revenge against its creator.
Damn... You were smart, man. For some reason, this topic has taken off.
I thought it was the cover, but it's not the subject at all. Replicate this type of cover and make the most of it, and growth is certain (look at the example of Nonagon).
Edit: Just be more consistent in your thumbnails. You were using a nice style in your first two videos, but then you changed completely. People who watch your channel and aren't subscribed thought it was another channel and didn't click on the video. That's why consistency is important. Enjoy.
Fantastic list of villains who won
Zemo in Captain America: Civil War and Falcon & the winter soldier. Both times he achieved his goals
Both had happy endings.
Joker's victory is a moral victory that even Batman can't deny.
Sometimes it's perfectly fine for the bad guy to win. Hero plot armor is the worst thing about most stories.
Yes totally agrees! I am currently rewatching Stranger Things. The plot armor is just.... ugh.
"Oh the monster eats everyone it sees immediately? Let's let it slam the main characters into a wall 38 times instead, we cant have them die on us"
@EasilyExplained. Yeah, I tried watching stranger things and really liked it but after the third season I began rooting for for the monster to win already.
The Lottery is just society in a nutshell. Demonstrates two of it's flaws.
No one questions customs and culture, and that people hardly hesitate to bring down those singled out by the whole.
You forgot a peculiar and odd robot who thinks therefore he is AM
He lost. He's stuck for all of eternity with only Ted, without purpose.
*subscribed*
Nurse Ratched does remain in charge. In the move, Chief frees McMurphy from his near vegetative state, and escapes the institution. So, not a total victory.
I loved reading 1984 but I literally had nightmares over the concept.
I like when the villains win, it subverts our expectations about how a story should end.
Invictus winning due to his show getting cancelled:
I think you forgot about a certain illusory-omnipotent AI that made 99.99% of humanity go extinct & spared five just to mentally torture them.
Im a big fan of shows like Survivor and I feel like one of its biggest appeals is that sometimes the villian wins
1:37 massive?
You know what else is massive
@romanmly loooooooowwwwwwwww taper fadeeeeeeeee
John Doe is one of my favorite fiction villains, and for good reason
you THINK Batman wins at the end of every movie, game, or tv series he's in, but the Joker is the real winner because he can just break out of arkham anytime he wants cuz he has weapons smuggled into jail for him and he knows that every week he's one step closer to cracking and eventually mentally breaking the bat.
Yes! I agree. The awesome thing about Nolan's Batman trilogy was that we actually saw the mental and physical toll that being a vigilante took on Bruce over the course of the three movies
1:37 bro just described the Anti-Christ 💀
❌❌❌ new world order ✅✅
george orwell is such a w writer
One of my absolute favorites.
Humanity lost is one as well it’s extremely disturbing yet hopeful
What do most of, if not all of those villains have in common? Control, opression, and destruction of Individuality for a forced sense of fake unity.
There was that time a Floridian Priest won and reseted the Universe. I mean, not for long, but still, you get what I mean Cautiously Commented.
I just realized that American Dad parodied The Omen in one of their episodes
Throughout The Entire Franchise Of A Nightmare On Elm Street Which Consists Of 7 Movies There Are Only 3 People Who Survive Freddy, One Of Them Being Jason Voorhees
Nancy Thomas the main protagonist ends up dying as well in the third. Yes her death gets recon and she basically comes back but still I agree. Only six characters survive throughout nightmare on Elm Street
@jacksond1299 In The 8th Movie Titled "Wes Craven's New Nightmare" Freddy Goes After Heather Langenkamp The Actress Who Portrayed Nancy And The Entire Movie Is A Metaphor And A Commentary On The Actors Famous For Their Roles Trying To Escape Their Iconic Characters. And The Plot Of That Movie Was Out Of Universe With The 7 Main Movies
never thought about this. i always think of jason as the slaughter god because he def kills the most by far but he always leaves some alive. freddy is a bit more of a completionist.
“ I am ... cogito ergo sum ... I think, therefore I am”👌👌👌
@Easily Explained Can you do characters based on alignment?
For big brother the 2+2=5 is a reference to the book
drink every time he says "Absolute"
Well to be fair Napoleon the pig got mauled to death by the other barn animals so he didn't really win
Not in the book…only in the films
Didn't happen in the book. The book ends with the mule looking through the window and sees the pigs having a feast with humans, and the mule couldn't tell which was which.
Yeah my bad I only saw the film
Surprised Allied Mastercomputer (AM) from IHNMAIMS didnt come up
Hey, part 2 will be out soon. AM will appear. Just saying.
I am not sure if I agree that he win though. Will elaborate in part 2
@EasilyExplained. I mean he did get Ted at the end. Sure everyone else escaped but he is able to torture Ted for eternity. Or if you played the game any other character.