Is the BMW Z4 a better budget sports car than the Mazda MX-5?
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- If you're looking for a cheap 2 seater sports car to thrash on the weekends, the obvious choice is the perennial Mazda MX-5. But is it the best choice? For a little extra money you can have a 2-litre BMW Z4. I've taken one for a drive to find out which you're better off with.
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The design of the car still looks amazing! Its a future classic.
Love my Z4 3.0 6 speed manual. I smile every time I get in it and turn the key.
I feel exactly the same; the 3.0 is a brilliant sportscar, fantastic value if you buy sensibly and a future classic.... the design still looks great.
Lol I have a Z4, 3.0i 6 speed and I love it too. I love how it sounds and feels and looks! I always look back at it when I’m walking away from it. 🥰
I bet you do!! I'm searching for one for the not so distant future
@@davidormes8516 I have a 2.5 if you’re interested? £2250
I’ve got a 2.5l BMW E85 Z4 and I absolutely love it. Couldn’t think of a better 2 seater roadster for the money
Because there isn't
Agree!
Got one today, traction off, 180deg wheelspinning take off line her up still spinning, 2nd spinning for a bit more, grabs the road, 6 cyl 7k rpm. My head nearly exploded with excitement!
@@aulday They are fun filled cars. They look amazing too.
Luv and Peace.
These reviews are getting better and better! Loving the Doug DeMuro-esque ending 😂
This is a good channel. I hope you continue and build up the channel with more reviews of affordable fun cars. Good luck!
Ok a little more money yes, but expect the maintenance to be not much different. You have to understand this that price is not everything
As a 197 owner and self confessed mx5 shagger, I’d choose them over the gti and z4 mostly because they’re the wrong choice, they’re just about fun, refinement? No, easy daily? No, they’re just there to make you smile and they’re cheaper than anything else in the same bracket! What’s more to like
I drive a 2006 2.5si z4 and it's great fun. But when comparing budget sportscars it's ludicrous to discount the Mr2. I had a red SW20 rev3 2.0 t-top for years and it was the best car I've ever owned. 174bhp. Roof comes off. Looks like a ferrari. Sounds amazing. Bulletproof reliable because it's a Toyota.
I drove to over 150,000 miles and ragged it mercillesly to it's 7250 redline constantly.
Ultimately the sills rusted away and I had to sell it to someone with the space to take on the project.
It started first time eerytime and it was always a thrilling drive.
The rev3 was the one with the dumbed down suspension so it was less prone to snap oversteer if you treated it like any other than a mid engined car.
It was still a hoot to drive and more fun than anything I've driven since.
It certainly made me a better driver.
I've always been curious about the Mx-5 and what all the fuss was about.
I've never driven a Miata but my current boss has owned them for years. Come the summer we're going to have a swap day and see how each other's car goes.
I'm totally open to being converted but in considering low budget sportscars the Mr2 made me feel a million dollars for years (5+). Amazing car.
Luv and Peace.
Edit: Daily drivers. All.
How did that swap go? We have a z4 and buying a mx5 ND4 miata
I have an MX5 ND 2.0 RF with ohlins suspensions, 4-1 header and some other little upgrades. I've never driven a Z4 but i must say its a very good looking car. So respect. But i could hardly think to change my beautiful Soul Red Mx5. I love it
The Z4 with 6 cylinder engines is the better car.
However, the MX5 is more fun to drive, especially at legal speeds and isn’t that the point of a roadster?
Hilarious how you say "aluminum" like an American there when speaking on the interior, nice work on the review! 👍
Dailying a 2.5si . It's great.
No problems at all.
It's comfortable, quick and I have a solid top but haven't felt the need to fit it.
Everything about this car is magical.
I love it.
Luv and peace.
Ian Edmonds I heard BMWs like this are expensive to maintain is this true?
I have the 2.2 5 speed e85 back box deleted, weekend driver, love the car soo much, future classic.
Christian Troy Have the same car in America and the back box delete is illegal here. So stupid.
One thing I really like about the E85 Z4 is the ventilation system - you don't have to drive around the place with the windows steamed up. Or does the fan interfere with your mike?
I got the 2,5l 5 speed with a ac schnitzer exhaust sounds good
Engine check light is on.
Something up with this Z4.
Luv and Peace.
I have to admit that when the passenger dude says(when they are commenting on the red leather) "it's like being in a German brothel" I had a good laugh.
225 HP 220 or so foot lbs of torque, slick as snot six speed manual.
Depends how much funds your willing to invest. Prefer the Miata its worry free driving
while other brands will cost you more in the long run.
You are a funny guy, in a good way.
2006 Z4 3.0 si owner here... so much better than Miata, BUT, its way cheaper to modify and track a Miata. I'm 6'2 and can race the Z4 with the top up and a helmet on.
More Z4 items please.
The z4 is pretty expensive to maintain, my case: new paint and rear quarters €2k, timing chain 1k, other small replacements (solenoids, coolant tank, gaskets, serpentine set, ingnition coils, sparks, various plasticsl) 1k, at oil €400, lsd upgrade 2k, brake set upgrade 4k.
6:06 SEND IT!
Does the AC work? I've owned 3 Mazda Miatas and the aC never worked. All bought brand new.
The mk3 mx5 with the 2.0 litre engine puts out about 170 hp . The same as the bmw 2.2 z4. The bmw is a 6 cylinder engine, it costs more to service and is heavier on fuel. The mx5 is basically a Ford the parts are cheaper. It has a Ford engine, Ford suspension, Ford brakes. It’s cheaper to run ,it has the same performance. It’s a no brainer go with the Mazda.
am buying convertible this summer am down to 3 choices all older models a miata,BMW z3 or z4 what would you recommend for saily driver and reliability. and what years you recommend Thanks for the help
what did you go for in the end and are you happy?
What is a ‘ Mazder’?
That yellow check engine lamp tells you why to buy an mx-5. Anyway. It is not a comparsion. No mazda in the video.
How does a mk1 Audi TT compare?
BMW"s have got to have the quietest soft top interiors
Why would anyone want a quiet convertible? Any Golf is quieter than the Z4.
@@zsoltpapp3363 80mph on the freeway making phone calls
@@drewmorg. That is not a selling point of a sportscar i guess. The good thing about the Miatas (even the small block ones with 1.8(nc) and 1.5(nd) engine only for Europe) is that you feel them fast at normal speeds which are not exceeding the b-road speed limits by much. Definitely not for a highway though, Miatas, even the brand new one is rather noisy at over 80 mph we usually do. Stereo is useless, so you have to have a good exhaust instead...:)
I just got a Z4 E85 and it’s so awesome. Quick, agile, stylish, reliable, and cheap. An incredible package that, in my opinion, can’t be touched by a Mazda.
Do you still have it? How is it holding up?
@@AW-gj4ji I got rid of it last year but it held up well for 3 years. Had a couple of expensive repairs but it was a 20 year old BMW so you have to just know what you’re getting into.
@@mohnjayer do you have more details to share? And why did you get rid of it :(?
@@AW-gj4ji The disa valve broke, the oil pan leaked and had to be replaced, and I had to get the engine mounts replaced because they had flattened out over time. Combined it was probably $3000ish in repairs from a Euro specialist garage. Like I said, you gotta know what you’re getting into with high age German sports cars. I got rid of it to get a newer, even more expensive sports car 🤣
@@mohnjayer Thanks for the information! I especially wanted the E85, because I heard there will be less reliability issues. Now I'm not too sure about it 😅.
Which car have you gone for now?
Well said gentelmans.
Get a 3.0i that's the real zed to get
I believe that the z4 is more beautiful and the interior is better but im in doubt about reliability compare with a mazda ...i own an NC and absolutaley love it And i have no regrets!
How tall are you ? I'm looking into buying a Z4, but I'm not sure I'd fit. I'm 6 ft 2-3
I'm 6'6 you'll be fine. It's roomy for a low sports car
Has to be a 6 cylinder. The 2.0l 4 pots are terrible and suffer from head gaskets and probably other things.
My question is which is more comfy for bigger guy thats 6ft tall
I think z4 more comfortable for long person
They rust like nothing since the early fords
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A z4 without an inline six is missing the point.Furthermore a z4 without the second generation engine, the lightweight N52 is doubly stupid.
I have a z4 2.5si and it would destroy any MX5 over any curves.
It's light and powerful and has really well sorted suspension..
Luv and Peace.
Z3 is more comparable to mazda miata, right? And cheaper.
Matjaž Gorišek depends on the year and model you’re comparing
2 litre struggles with heavy passengers
@@vbstein are you serious?? Or is it just a joke
@@aminabellalvaradoaguero9190 completely serious the 2.0i struggles as I had one for 3 years. It's a good car though
isn't it less nimble and fun on twisties?
Feels pretty nimble to me and I have years in a 174hp MR2.
The suspension is really well sorted out as you'd expect from BMW.
They really are pretty special at making cars.
I went from the SW20 rev3 to a BMW 320i with 4 less horsepower.
Bottom line is the 320i was quicker and handled better because the suspension gave you the confidence to use it more round a bend.
The MR2 was very exciting but the transition from exciting to catastrophe was very short.
I spun my MR2 3 times.
I never spun my 320i
The Z4 has a lot of that chassis balance about it and also has the clever get of out jail free card of Dynamic Skid Protection but with the added fun of allowing a bit of skid.
The Z4 is a riot.
Best car I've ever owned.
Except maybe the Mr2 - that was lot of fun...
Luv and Peace.
Z4 and MX5 in the same sentence? I don't think so, the Z4 is in a completely different league.
Both brands far exceed Porsche for cost of ownership. Mate of mine drives
a Boxster., constant repairs. Porsche may be german for $ucker! :(
Maybe next time you could compare a Corolla vs a Corvette
Mr2 all the way .
On the Miata....."The most fun car I've ever driven"nuff said.
The Z4 is better in every single way...a six cylinder is a must.
z4 na it s pain in the ass to fixing and spency
problem is reliability, parts price, and harder to work on
We're talking about a $25K vs a $60K+ car. Really?
What does it matter what they USED to be worth? Depreciation happens for a reason
Better with the 2.2 Z4
2.2 is useless. Get a 2 or a 2.5
@@Sonny-wd2nl I have a 2.2 and it is very very good.
3.0 or M. Nothing else
Tramlining.
Its not aged well "bollocks " it still looks modern. And why would you want an mx5 that rot terrible. Its a no brainer m52 z4 everytime...
The answer is absolutely not. Remember, it's not just about driving impressions, it's about long-term reliability and repair costs. BMW does very poorly in that arena.
False. My 2003 2.5i has being super cheap to maintain
@@seacronos7303 Oh, so your single experience counts more than published data from thousands of BMW owners? I'll bet you there's a guy somewhere that claims his Yugo was the best car he's ever owned too...
@@justsumguy2u Not my single experience. Yo can go to eBay and see how cheap parts are for this cars. And if you work on your own car like I do sometimes or have a good and decent mechanic you won't be pay top dollar at the stealler for labor.
@@justsumguy2u if you go for a n52 version it is very bulletproof.
@@justsumguy2u yeah it’s pretty common knowledge the z4 is one of the most reliable and cheap to maintain bmws you can buy
No. Plus it looks shite. A saloon BMW would be a far better bet.
2.0 litre Z4 for posers, MX5 is for drivers.
That's why we are pretty all équipe with 2.5 or 3.0 engines
No wonder there are Miata amateur race cups everywhere, BMW is just too heavy.
@@zsoltpapp3363 not that much. And the weight is compensed with power so.. '
@@lucasvonheiz1310 Miata with an inline6 would be the best combination
@@zsoltpapp3363 not sûre, too heavy on the front
Comparing a Z4 to an MX-5 is so so wrong. Like comparing a scotch malt to a milkshake. Z4 = Car/ MX-5 = Toy
This is not a queastion BMW is better than Mazda and a Z4 is better than a MX5!!!
Unless what you want is a second car purely for fun on a twisty road, in which case the Mx5 is better. It's just more fun to drive hard!
@@GW8419 definitelly agree. I have had NC 2.0 with lsd, some other upgrades. Bilstein B12, cold air KN intake, remus backbox, ecu tuned, 1160kg and 181,5HP a 215NM. In straight line I was bonnet to bonnet with Z4 3.0i 170kw, offcourse in higher speed 140Km/h+ the bigger engine started to pull harder and I was loosing Z4 but it was pretty close. In the corners the Z was absolutelly out of the game... no chance... overal mx5 nc is better in every driving element. "Zet" only profits from bigger engine. I own Z4 now, so I am not mx5 "worshiper" but I can compare from "first" hand... I sold mx because of fantastic offer and buyed Zet allso for fantastic price. Both times I was lucky, therefore I sold mx and buyed Z.
@@tomasabraham5651 Finally someone who knows what he's talking about unlike many others around here... I have a NC with little mods and compare it to a Z4 its just plain stupid, I have driven several z4 and even z3's and its a different world... The Z4 is a better daily , more roomy, has better confort and thats about it, the mx5 is above on the rest of aspects, when you guys sit in one you'll notice how low you are in the seat unlike the other 2.
My NC is a soft top 1050kg with some mods on intake,intake runners,manifold,exhaust, ecu tuned (188,2 HP) and smoked z4 2.5 (177,192) z3.2.8 and was on par till 180 with z4 3.0.