The Best Cheap Supercars - Fifth Gear
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- Jason has a look at the some of the supercars on the market at cut prices.
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The Z4 has an issue with rainwater collecting in a well around the soft top hydraulic motor. This immersion usually results in pump failure. Replacement of the pump of by a BMW dealer is around $3K parts and labor. There are a several videos on TH-cam addressing replacing these hydraulic pumps with Ford Mustang convertible top pumps for about $185 for the pump. If you do it yourself, the pump is mounted on the wall inside the trunk which also keeps it out of the rainwater well. The Mustang pump is almost identical to the OEM BMW pump but is less than half the price. Also, the pump can be replaced without completely removing the softtop from the car and results in faster top operation..
Thanks, this has been noted.
What year mustang convertible tops? Just wondering in case mine's goes out.
Good thing I live in LA where it doesn’t rain
I love the interior design and noise of BMW
You could use the £3500 to pay for the engine rebuild shortly after buying it
Or buy a Z4
10000 percent true
And the leftovers will go on petrol. RX8 fuel economy is a borderline joke, I've wanted one for a long time as they're a compact and practical RWD sports car of which you simply don't see anymore but I actually drive my cars so wouldn't be able to afford V12 Jaguar levels of fuel efficency.
@@Negativvv I had the earlier version RX7, i rebuilt engine twice myself, cost £5000 in parts and it would do 18mpg. Nice drive but worst car i have ever owned. I later put a Ford engine in it. Finally the floor rotted away and it went £15 at the scrapper.
Even after that you would need thousands of ££££ just to keep it running. The anger and frustration comes free though.
VANOS problems don't necessarily set you back a grand. Find a nice and good BMW specialist, and they do VANOS rebuilds with premium better-than-factory materials for around 400 bucks. I did it on my E46 325Ci (which has the same engine, M54, just a tad smaller) and I'm pretty happy with the results :)
Tht Z4 sounded amazing!
Agreed. The Z4's straight 6 Engine is spectacular.
I had that car for a weekend and its just awesome. The suspension is firm but very comfy. There is only few issues with it.
1. no cup holders, which sux especially in a soft top, when you get thirsty good luck
2. the standard seats are junk, you will get back pain from them very soon, they completly devalue the great suspension, 'sport' seat option is must have, they are much, much comfier
3. one wheel fire, no LSD as standard unless you have M model.
@@Aluzcz I know this is an old comment, but it depends on which package you have. I just bought an 04 z4 3.0i and it has cup holders. I think the seat thing is more of a preference too. I'm 6'5 and I tried the sports seats and I didn't even fit in the car really anymore. They were really uncomfortable for me. Only had her for maybe 2 weeks or so, but easily the best car I've ever owned!
Also it really doesn't need too many upgrades to make it fun! All I'm really planning on doing is getting a cold air intake. It's got plenty power for its size imo
Z4 all the way bro I have one and I absolutely love it
I agree, so do i. 😎👍
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Yup... that was very annoying to me too
I only clicked on here to find this comment. Thank you
Agreed.
At 80k miles the rx8 will need a new engine :(
WHAAAAA....?
Logan Burke Just get one with new rotor tips.
Logan Burke prob already had two at that stage
No, it won't.
-mazda rx8 owner.
that and the boxter
As a previous RX8 owner I can confirm by experience all the talk about the engine problems are correct. It's a great drivers car. However, it was an absolute money pit!.
Yeah. I had one too. 😬 Awesome handling and gearbox. I got a low mileage Z4 e86 now. Awesome cars. I guess the boxter is next. 😂
My 03 Z4 3.0 6 speed has 170,000 miles on it, still going strong.....
have you had to replace anything pricey on it?
@@PsilocybeJedi I had to replace the DME (computer) in mine. Set me back 600 quid
@@BattleScones i got my dream e85 white with only 84k miles and I've had it for 9 months and love it do far. Only thing is my convertible roof motor went out and ill have to replace my coolant expansion tank soon
@@PsilocybeJedi nice, my motor is still going strong, I don't have a garage to park it in though. I'm constantly stressing out when it rains.
@@BattleScones Me too man. And I live in Seattle. Live it up!
The RX8.....is one of the few Japanese cars that is genuinely unreliable. The Z4 by comparison is based on the 3-series which we all know is tough as old boots and pretty easy to fix.
Z4 *_*
i had an e85 and have an e89
i loved both and will never stop, its the perfect car for me!!
There is only one true Z4. Its the e85 Z4. 2nd generation E89 Z4 is a heavy boat with an hardtop. Even the 35is with a thousand horsepower is not a true blue roadster. The upcoming third generation G29 looks like it is an offspring of Fiat 124 and Kia Stinger. Aweful. Just my 1 cents.
Frank McGrath thats cool mate, i love the e85 and the e89 as well
Right now i own both and enjoy it.. maybe im just a bit crazy
Frank McGrath and yeah.. the new g29 looks more like a kia and fiat spider mixup
@@knightstemplar1931 E89 Z4 looks much more stylish. E89 Z4 is looks like a tiny car for girls with sad front ..
now i got my fifth z4 and i love it
Wow, you guys have some savage depreciation in the UK. I'd never ever buy a new car there!
DrQuiza because the steering wheel is on the wrong side :p
DrQuiza I got my Bmw at 3 years old and saved 28k Canadian. I would never buy a new car period. I could almost buy 2 and just park the first one until the other one is dead😂 it is options that really kill you with new cars. If you look long enough you can always find a fully equipped one and pay almost nothing for options. The original owner paid 67k for mine and only put 65000km on it all highway as per the Carly Bmw scan tool.
Räuber Hotzenplotz *Correct side.🤨
The RX-8 has a pretty poor reputation for reliability. I loved my '05 BMW Z4 3.0 though. The manual version is really easy to drive smoothly and the sport seats were fantastic.
Kev50027 yeeah they always broke my back when i hit dumps
Felix Hoste great
I just bought a 05 3.0 Z4 yesterday! LOOOVE it
Just listen to the Z4! Wonderful noise
castrated v6 sound
@@spacemaster5206 Even though the z4 is a straight six but whatever
The RX8 has twin rotors which makes it a 2.6 litre. When you take your in line 4 in for its major service, say 30k miles, expect an engine rebuild for the mazda (£1000). I would recommend you only buy one if you have unlimited funds, lots of patience, a good breakdown service and, oh, did i mention deep pockets.........Ever wondered why they are sooo cheap?
Not a Z4 but my experience was with a Z3, which I like way better... I bought my Z3 with 140,000 miles on it. 6 years later I just reached the 300,000 miles and my car runs strong and smooth with no major repairs other than the starter and replace the air filter, and of course its regular maintenance. By the way I only paid $2,000 dlls for it here in California. Really a fantastic deal!
Good to hear. I have a z4 with 126000. Miles to go.
Z3 is way better than Z4. I don't understands Z4 fans
@@elitesennabubble z3 is an ugly, rushed car with a frankenstein suspension layout with e30 and e36 parts. The car weighs more than the Z4 that succeeded it with less features...
The top trim revered by "z3 enthusiasts" is a ridiculous looking coupe/shooting brake that is "affectionately" named the "clownshoe"
The Z4 is literally superior in nearly all aspect besides maybe size and electric steering (which is made moot by the Z4M).
Don't even reply to my post if your z3 doesnt even have a straight 6
@DICEpwn7 I have the top model 3.2L Z3 M Roadster (S50B32) and first of all they are far better looking than the Z4. The retro inspired interior has aged far better and you are complaining that it has E36 parts? It has a great 5 speed manual with great feedback and the car pulls like a freight train. The Z4 is too much of a muscle car and the interior is ugly as hell, the worst era for BMW interiors. Plus all the Z4s I see are the watered down ones because their second hand market value tanked because people realized they were shit.
I have driven a Z3 and that E85 Z4. Both six cylinders. The Z4 easily left that Z3 dead! The Z3 cannot match the Z4 in performance, comfort, rawness, intensity etc. And in the Z3, things were always breaking. Explains why BMW ditched that Z3 for good.
Be careful about the boxster if it still has the original countershaft bearings in the engine. They were sealed ball bearings that suffered from lack of lubrication if the grease in the bearings give up and result in possible collision of pistons with valves. A boxster rebuilt with ceramic ball bearings on this shaft will have better longevity. The ceramic ball bearings are not sealed and use more reliable oil splash from the crankcase.
Say what you want but the Bangle-Design has aged best in my opinion. Not my preferred style when it was introduced.
In the meanwhile: Looks timeless & fresh enough to compete with some current designs.
Z4 is the way to go love my 2005 3.0. 0-60 in 5.8 seconds is respectable for a non-turbo 6.
It drinks gas like an elephant. And its engine drinks oil by gallons
@@spacemaster5206 Why would you care, it's a fun car.
z4 all the way
Really really awesome.. tq bro.
Z4 3.0si has a nice engine. Is sounds fantastic, loud and low pitch growl at 2000rpm then it starts to scream above 5000rpm. And it can rev as high as 7000rpm. Aslo the coupe version looks very special. If you fit it with rear wing it starts to look like a supercar. With upgrades you can turn it into a supercar but that will cost a lot. And If the price gets high you can look for other options like a track day radical sr3 or an ariel atom. In conclusion if you want real performance, it is hard to find something cheap. These three cars are in entry level sports car under 6 seconds segment. Any of them is quite fun to drive, but sadly the Rx8 is notoriously unreliable, I would stay away from it unless you know what you're doing.
Agree. Currently driving a 2.5si. It is a severely under rated and overlooked sports car car. Revs to 7000 rpm and inside the tunnel, it transforms from a refined machine to a growling beast. Everyone worships the S2000 thanks to its 8200 rpm. But only those who have driven a E85 Z4 knows how special it is.
While the 228bhp RX-8 looks like an amazing bargain it's cheap because it's £555 per year tax, £1000 engine rebuild every 60k miles, and 17.9mpg when you're being gentle on the throttle! Maybe okay for a track day car but not a daily driver.
Z4 for the win. Boxster at that money likely to cost more in repairs and the 3 litre straight six in the Z4 is just one of BMWs best of all time - very tough. I love the RX8 but just too risky and they don't make the power as standard. 228 more like 200.....
£1500! For an RX8!? Wow you learn something new everyday.
Keep in mind the fuel economy and how much can go wrong on them. A decatted RX8 makes some nice pops and bangs, too
Cheapest I found here in Norway is about 12.000 £ :s
2005 model.
There's loads on Autotrader in the UK for under £1000, need work though.
That's because this is an old episode.
And with the war on diesel going on, the very last NA engines being produced and some countries even planning to ban the sales of non electric cars, the more collectible (like the RX-8) are creeping up in value again.
What they seem to fail to tell you is with that £3k you're saving, it'll go towards fuel and oil consumption, an engine rebuild during its life. Rinse and repeat.
dude i love the z4
Dimo
Really a 4.4 V8 swapped in the Z4 from an old 7 Series would be really special
Me too! I have an e85
Dimo yeah me too mate
For that sort of price on the RX8 around here, it's going to have a salvage title. That means that the insurance company has declared it a total loss (due to flooding / water damage / wreck) and then someone has bought it and fixed it up. Flooding / water damage will often continue to give you problems for the rest of the life of the car.
Uau que legal!!
Achei legal esse comparativo!
I'm a little biased as I have a boxster but it fucking awesome.
And I save a fortune cutting my own hair 😂😂😂
Z4 for me. Rotary is a nightmare to maintain so it doesn't blow up. Have to keep checking the compression. Fuck that! And the IMS issues for the Boxster. Pass as well.
Are these just re runs, or is it still been broadcast on what channel?
That rotary engine rebuild tho.... some cars have oil change intervals that outlast it lol
Z4....
The m54 is one of the best engines ever made, he is right
$5k for a Z4? high mileage or not, it's still a gooddeal. In germany, it costs between $8-10k and more.
The cooling system don't cost 3k, or what did he say?
The Porsche if you don't mind getting spanked by ordinary cars with the same power. I mean, I would rather be spanked in a BMW than in a Porsche. I believe, Porsches should be well powered to smash 99% of the things on the road otherwise it won't be the benchmark sportcar it is. So, I will go for a BMW, plus it looks the best among the three. The rotary Mazda? well, let's not even go there.
Lol I got my Z4 for $3.5k in Delaware. It did have its problems but i solved them. Cooling system costs around $200-$250 in parts. I do all the labour myself. ezpz
@@Dynamics99 If I sent you 3.5k would you help me buy one? I live in Europe by the way.
He said a new roof is £3K. At a BMW main dealer that may be true, I don't know. If it's just a failed electric motor they can be repaired and re-located to the boot/trunk where they won't get wet again. A guy in the UK charges just £175 for this repair+relocation.
Already own a z4 3 litre 6 speed manual puts a smile on my face but about to purchase a boxster S with all the same toys Satnav Bluetooth heated seats as the Z4 will soon find out if they are comparable.. If yes will keep both.. Bit greedy as I already have a audi allroad otherwise how can I fit the kids and bikes??
The z4 is the most timles and reliabel and economic
Bmw has never been gas saver
@@spacemaster5206 You buy a sports car for economy? I think you're swimming in the wrong pond (and you're wrong anyway).
@@robertgreen8213 sure, but Z4 is not sport car))
@@spacemaster5206 GO AND INSERT YOUR NOSE IN THE JDM FART CAN OR THE RX8 SHIT CAN IF YOU DON'T LIKE BMWs. ANOTHER GARBAGE SPEWING JAPANESE LOVING STINKING DUMB ASS. I ONLY SEE JDM FART CANS PRETENDING TO BE SPORTS CARS. CONTI CARS WILL URINE ON YOUR MUCH BELOWED SHIT BOXES ALL DAY EVERYDAY.
Love my 03 3.0 6 speed Z4.....
Near 50/50 weight balance....and its quick.
dave runner yes it is mate😍
I have the z4 but it’s the 2007 3.0si
I enjoy my Z4. Zippy.
Neglected to mention the apex seals that go bad at roughly 80k on the rx8, which is gonna set you back more than what you saved considering you are gonna need to get a new block
The RX8 is like the XJS V12 (but smoother and faster) was 15 years ago: 'A supercar for banger money, but it has banger problems for supercar money!'
The Best Cheap Sports Cars* Fixed it.
Nothing "supercar" about those 3 cool cars.
Near exotic? Is that still a type of car? I've heard that phrase before.
MR2 could fill that job, I reckon.
dickcheese663 Calm down. Why do you have to be so picky
It's not about being picky, they just aren't supercars, mate. and they already have a class where they fit in, as said above, *sports cars*
Beat me to it
The RX8 is utter garbage for daily use, buy a Crossfire, Puma, MX5, Smart Roadster... anything as long as it doesn't have a rotary
6cyl Z4 and I’m no fan of BMW but it ticks all the boxes
I miss NA straight 6’s in BMW’s
Dang I miss my Rx8 :/ Without a doubt the most joyful car I've ever owned and even driven..
a boxster a is like 15k in the netherlands and germany
Buy the from 2008 or 9 so you get new rims tires bumpers and infotainment system
They left off a car that was much nearer a super car than anything on this list, a Mercedes Benz CL 55 AMG. With nearly 500 Hp & 516 lbs-ft of torque from the supercharged, hand built engine, the cars are rockets. Then add features only found on super cars back then like: radar cruise control, 6 piston calipers & cross drilled rotors, front & rear. Heated & cooled front seats, oh & they also had a massage function. The alcatara headliner & the actual burl wood interior trim. That kind of luxury was only found on Rolls Royce & Bentley.
Plus, these days you can buy one for a dash over $15k in the USA, with great maintence history too.
Just be sure the ABC suspension is well cared for or expect outrageous expenses repairing it!
Honestly, they are great cars.
Good luck folks!
Nice panerai
The Porsche SA said they won’t take any 911’s Boxsters or Caymans in of the bore-scoring era. Porsche Indy said it’s not a matter of time, it’s a matter of when the Porsche begins to suffer from bore-scoring😫💰
BMW for me thanks, worth more than the Mazda come resale and cheaper to run
BMW , names the best sense
No contest
Mazda , a throw away proposition
Porsche won't take the abuse , without big £'s
What could you do with the "extra" 3k? You could pay for (part) of the repair bill. That RX-8 is, at best, a yard anchor!
Best RX8 is the one without engine, so you can LS swap it :D
Does anyone know the song at 38?
I mean 00:38
Darude-Sandstorm
They are not Supercars, They are Sports Cars.
No SLK R171s?
£1500 for headlights - is he on drugs ? - £60 on Ebay
Z4 for £3000 25si all working and love it
Straight-six Eargasm @ 3:37
Think what you could do with the extra cash from the Rx 8..... How many engine rebuilds will that get you
How about SLK?
Rx8 with 60k miles needs new rotor tips . Unless you never let it get cold lol
"3 and half grand left in pocket, think what you can do with that" it will be gone on fuel cost, that freaken thing takes more fuel than a 5L Corvette and makes half power as well.
comparing a porsche and BMW with a Mazda makes no sense, compare it to an S2000 if you want to attempt to make sense. If anything they should compare a Miata to a Porsche for the handling and the Z3 to a TT for the inline engine...
I have the Honda accord
8,5km/L in a sport isnt THAT much
Ok, for a 2003 car is a bit much, but nothing absurd
I would chose RX8 anytime
-Hardtop
-4 doors
-Quite sober design, nothing too flashy/showy
-Rotatory engines are incredible monsters
-Cheaper initial cost
Yeah.... I know they have that parts problem, every rotatory have
A bad drinker nothing too scary
I'd have the rx8, get one cheap and run it into the ground, buy one well maintained and it'll still blow up on you
as the engine in the z4 is so fantastic, why not buy a bmw 330i and have all of the the additional space inside and 4 doors?
Too boring and looks uglier.
Cause you will have very different and ordinary feeling while driving it. Different body position(casual). Not rare looks and etc.
and the next stage would be a roof rack and tow bar
Failed to mention that the engine needs rebuilding couple of years!!
Why is the title supercars?
with the Porke? WTF xD
Why did you call them supercars?
I'm early to watch the first video
No S2000?
May want to check the prices on Autotrader, They're appreciating, Unless you're after a 2000 car with high mileage.
S2000 is in the rear wheel drive convertables
All 3 of these are rear wheel drive...
The S2000's weaknesses are a lack of low end torque, unremarkable handing and bland styling(IMO).
I used to own an S2K, I now own a 2.5i Z4. The Z4 has better styling, but the Honda was more enjoyable to drive; faster, with better handling.
I had a brand new rx8 😎😊
The BMW is the one I would buy😎 a car that makes you look rich
Okay guys 2.5 or 3.0 for the z4???
I have the 2.5 and sometimes i wish i had some extra power. Go for the 3.0 if you can afford it and want to go faster, if not, 2.5 is fun enough.
2.5 is enough for this body. BMW always ate a lot of gasoline. better take 2.5
With this engine you will have at least a ghostly hope for fuel economy)
@@spacemaster5206 those cars are fun cars why would you own one and care about economy? If you want economy you will drive your other car.
Go for the 3.0. They are both economic. The 3.0 drinks even less than the 2.5.
Drove a Gt3 911 and wasn't impressed,disappointed even,don't get me wrong, I lusted after them for decades, so when I drove the GT3 it left me cold, the Mazda...?, too many foibles,has a drinking habit, I'm talking about Oil,so, the Z4 would be my choice, easy on the pocket and sounds t biz.
The RX-8 is not a daily driver car. It's a car you drive the crap out of on the weekend. Once you park it and shut the engine off, the game is over if you have to re-park it. The Z4, very fun car to drive every day. I had used a 2.5i for a little while. It wasn't fast, but it was extremely fun. I can't speak on behalf of the Porsche.
you going to need that 3.5 grand for engine repairs! oil and fuel!
that maniac is driving on the wrong side of the road...
buy Peugeot
These are sports cars
Z4
Did he just say Porkuh
He did lmao
porker = slang for porsche
jesus christ, use your head.
But I would buy the Bmw that has no problems
In Uk u dont need a new car, its gona get stolen anyway in a few weeks
'Supercars' Mazda RX8
Ford Focus 2003 still better than a ford focus
How can you possibly call these supercars?!
Porsche may as well use a brick as a clutch,it’s sooooooooooo heavy
Buy the Mazda and have three and half grand in your pocket. Think what you could do with that. Spend it on fuel.
Perhaps he meant super cars. Not supercars.
Dont buy a car with a rotary engine, they are terrible!!! I remember the RX8 reviews at launch, saying how good the car was......other than the torque lacking crappy rotary engine. Nearly every review said how much better the car would be with a normal 4 or 6 pot instead. At least the best RX7 ran a turbo to inject a decent amount of torque. The RX8 has been an increasingly rare sight on UK roads, and I live close to a Mazda dealer, and this is surely down to that short living rotary.
BMW Z4 please, you can keep that naff mazda with it’s dodgy engine and the Porsche looks ancient, and not in a good classic car kind of way
Spend it on fuel!
Since when Sportcars were considered as Supercars ?
Please give some reviews on indian cars team fifth gear...
MUDIT KUMAR there all shit bruh. Is that a good review?