Dan Mathews: PETA, Prostitutes, and A Schizophrenic Success Story
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ค. 2021
- Dan Mathews, Writer and long-time activist with the People for Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), openly celebrates his late mother, who was diagnosed with schizophrenia. Dan regales the audience with tales about his mother’s ability to form lasting and meaningful relationships, in spite of her challenges. Through their discussion of Dan’s mom, Mayim and Dan re-examine the modern conception of psychotic disorders, unpacking the artistic, religious, and social contexts of illness.
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I’m schizo affective, I was a nurse and I didn’t work since my first psychotic crisis 10 years ago… thank you for this positive and interesting podcast!!
Oct 30th 2020 my good friend Gerrit took his Moms life and his own in Nanaimo. He had gone around to his friends to warn them of the oncoming of the 4 horsemen. When I learned he had been schizophrenic all the pieces fit together. He was a brilliant musician who loved his Mom and would do anything for his friends. He knew he couldnt leave his Mom alone. I still miss him.
🕊 I’m so sorry about the tragedy of losing your friend, (and his mother) Mental health is so fragile sometimes. I lost my best friend a few yrs ago also. Although she didn’t take her own life, mentally, and physically, she had some struggles. I think that’s why she was such a compassionate person. She understood me. I have always struggled with depression/schizoaffective tendencies.. hope you are able to find peace ☮️
Because there was mental illness in my husband's family, I was always aware, watching with the kids. When our then 6 yr old son said there was a voice in his head, I rushed him to the doctor, who diagnosed him with "Thinking" lol. I might have overreacted a bit.
Hysterical thank you
Dan Mathews = compassion! Thank you Perry. What a beautiful life and story! May we all learn from this how to approach everyone with love. Thank you ALL for de-stigmatizing mental health. Let's all come out of that closet once and for all!
I recently started learning & understanding more about schizophrenia from stumbling onto videos by mental health counselor Todd Grande. I knew very little. & don't know of anyone with it that I'm aware of. I did once work with a woman years ago who's mom was schizophrenic & had chased her daughter around the kitchen with a knife. So what little I did know of it was quite scary. As far as family goes & medical history, well I was adopted in the 60s - so closed adoption records.
Then more recently have seen a TV ad for medication for such, & it made me feel a calm & gladness, like it's part of the beginning of a more global acceptance to an openness of the topic of mental illnesses. And now this. WOW I MUST get & read this book by Mathews to get a grasp on this whole entire loving, wonderful story...even though I know it will make me cry.
Thanks for having Dan on. I can’t wait to read his book.
What a reassuring episode. Dan is so amazing, and real.
Mental illness of many types is real and I am so glad you are talking about these difficult subjects.
Sometimes it’s just drugs . Some teenagers take drugs that don’t show up in a test . It horrible.
As someone who used to work in a mental health hospital , I absolutely loved this episode. Everyone has the right to be treated with dignity and respect, and he really stepped up on being there for his mom. I'm in the process of doing that myself. A lot goes undiagnosed for a fear of the treatment. The part about acknowledging someone's reality, and moving on comes so easily to me with strangers, but has been so difficult with my own family. I'm going to try a lot harder now.
I'm a pharmacy tech in a state where gabapentin is not considered a controlled substance even though every pharmacist I've worked with thinks it should be. When he said he couldn't follow the plot of Green Acres when he took it, I could NOT stop laughing. I think this is the argument needed to get it classified as a controlled substance. Lol
There is also the diagnostic caveat that they overlooked, but touched on. When describing "Unusual and bizarre behavior" it has to be considered "Unusual and bizarre for the culture and environment in which they live and identify." So that clients don't get diagnosed with a disorder simply because they are culturally different from the person assessing them.
A friend of mine has recently been diagnosed with schizophrenia and it is the beginning of a tough journey for his family. I can recommend a TH-cam channel with a woman from Canada Lauren. Living life well with schizophrenia. Most helpful.
I love that this approach that Dan had with his mother applies with dealing with older people in general or family in the Asperger's spectrum. It's improvisation, it's saying "yes and" and moving on, trying not to deny their identities or experiences and making them function or reunite with "the real world" in their own fashion and pace, maybe putting ourselves closer to them instead of forcing society from the outside in (if that makes sense).
Take care of yourself and your loved ones 💕
Every episode I watch gets better and better. Love the work you both are doing and such interesting guests that supply us with wisdom and knowledge. Appreciate you!
You sat through that whole interview Mayim, and you never asked about the lights on the stairway? 👀
I know right? LOL
Lucky me as an European that when video is out I watched full podcast. And always you, Mayim & Jonathan make my Tuesdays better!
About mental health, my mom suffered and died with an strange dementia, called REDUPLICATIVE PARAMNESIA. I use my black humor, as Dan Mathews says he did too, to confront and soften things with siblings and even with our dad, saying that she’d a kind of quantic mechanics and multiverses modern Physics kind of dementia. I think now that I was actually the only one of the five siblings who truly “understood” her, and was able to “enter” in her troubled mind..). I too experienced first hand how some of my siblings simply dennied the medical diagnose, were refractive to believe in what mom was suffering (and it affected all the family) simply because they tought it was a king of family “stigma”.
And how I like Mayim’s words “we die the way we live”! It was my own motto during my cancer treatment, leading me to design my own farewell of this world (if that finally happened) by myself, before anyone, even with the best will, misguide people about how I was and lived.
HUGE THANKS again to you both, Mayim and Jonathan (sorry to say this after all 25 episodes..) for this moving, tender, deep, but at the same time full of clever humor sense episode, breaking down the stigma around one of the most stigmatized mental health diseases! PURE GOLD!
Thank you Dan Mathews too. You’re such a brave man. As an animal defender myself, I read and liked your previous ‘Commited’ book, but I definitely will buy this new one!
Sharing this episode here with all my colleagues and friends, if needed, helping them with the English language! 💜
“It does not mean people that don’t take medication are not stable. There is a negotiation we all have to do with our mental illness. ...what allows me to live my best life” 👏🏻Applauding and yelling “Yes!” at my tv screen while hearing this in TH-cam. ❤️ Thank you Mayim. 🥰 You are a gift. 🎁
it depends but defintly meds arent for everyone , for various reasons including side effects or risk to od but and other thigns can help including the biggest better situations in life , but ya however some sort of mantainance has to be consistant or else it well get out of hand
And i got to treat a 30 something schizophrenic living in the streets of the Latin Quarter in Paris and came to realize that the whole neighborhood was organized around helping him one way or another
My husband of nearly 20 years was diagnosed with schizophrenia 2 years ago. He thought these voices were his internal voice(s) and simply thought he was just a very negative person. He is 44 now and after 20 med changes, nothing has yet worked. Thank you for this episode! It gives up hope. And yes, a dark sense of humor is a must. When it gets intense in our house, dark humor is the antidote.
Sheets of tears!!! ❤❤❤ Dan Matthews is a beautiful human being! Kind and compassionate!
During the intro when you said she was diagnosed very late in life, my very first thought was, "I bet she was frightened of the trend to lobotomize just everyone back in the 50's." God, I don't blame her at all.
Thank you for this delighful, poignant, hopeful guest. I am very grateful for Dan, you Mayim, and Johnathan (Jonathon?..)Thank you for your podcast. It's made a positive difference in my life.❤🙏😊
What a hopeful story. Growing up with an unmediated bipolar mother was rough. Medication, when she was 50, helped, but her impulse to attack me when she morphed into delusion-ville never really left her. That said, when her mental health completely tanked after Dad died, I made sure she was well taken care of, not my brothers. And after her passing I’ve healed quite a bit.
Do you mean she attacked you verbally, or physically? Or both?
I saw Dan's book on Mayim's desk and decided that it had to be good or she wouldn't be reading it. It was FANTASTIC (and also reminded me of MY mom). So now i'm tickled that she's interviewing him! Please keep up the great work Mayim and Jonathan, the world needs you so much right now.
I loved this episode. Dan spoke with such love for his mother and a sense of humor. Now I HAVE to read his book. Thank you Dan, and Mayim & Jonathan, for having for having Dan on the show. Love all of you guys.
Love this episode! I really appreciate the hard work everyone does! ❤️
"I feel everything so deeply."
🙋🏻♀️Me too!! It definitely is a blessing and a curse but feels like a curse more often than not.
Me too!
Thank you so, so much for this podcast!As a mother with treatment resistant depression I always feel so guilty and awful for not being the mom I thought I'd be. I worry about the long term impact on my babies of having a mom with depression. Dan Mathews went through so much and yet he is very well adjusted and still loves his mom. This gave me a lot of hope.
I am seeking a LOT of help but nothing seems to be working, I'm finally getting to try TMS next month and I am so hopeful. I've been on the waitlist since November...thanks Kaiser :(
What a great podcast. In my profession, my work with people who have Schizophrenia has been amazing. I've learned so much. I have a history of being around people who have mental illness as my mother was in psychiatric hospitals throughout my life until she committed suicide. I can relate to Dan's accounts of his mother's behavior. I have used gallows humor because my mother and her friends from the psych hospitals taught me that it is ok to laugh at it all. I grew up with so many character's in my mother's home that I appreciate differences in people. I appreciate the stories that survivors tell. Thank you for bringing Dan to my attention. I will most certainly buy this book.
Every episode of your podcast is more educational, more revealing and just just wonderful!!!! I cannot thank you enough for bringing out these stories and these people and these conditions that most definitely were so obscure for me and now they just feel so natural and close to my heart!!!!!!
I was so moved by this mother/son story. I am going to buy the book today. Thank you for helping me shift my perspective today. What a beautiful feeling. Your podcasts are my “go-to’s” when at work all day. Thank you MB!🙏❤️Keep the great conversations going!
53 yr old Mom of a 25 and 17, and schitzo all my life. My 17 is also. Totally know what your talking about, you got it pretty right on. I always think, most ppl couldn't make it one day, in my head
I could make it in your head. Bless you mommy. I still desire my babies.
@@najiajones1380 they're what give us life
I am a rescue person. I think helping animals that need care and return them to the wild, rescue pets, get feral cats fixed, dogs fixed for other people who say they can't, often times they step up, but I want there to be more people than pets, so only people really dedicated to the correct care, training and exercise needed have them.
Mayim I truly honestly would love to be on your show. I know I'm not a famous person but have had a life that I try to let people know that they are not alone.
I'm going to get your book! Love this & love someone with the same diagnoses late in life. It truly helped me forgive & accept some of the hardest aspects of this illness.
This episode really touched my heart and made me cry. My mother had schizophrenia all of my life and died in 2005.
I listened to You Mayim and Jonathan and through your podcasts I questioned my brain and have just been diagnosed with ADHD as an 45 year old mother
Your show is amazing
Another great episode! So much insight to a different world. Thank you for putting this out there. Love to all! Can't wait for next week :)
Wow! This is an amazing interview. Having just watched It’s a Sin, the AIDS crisis of the 80s has been at the front of my mind recently & his mum sounds like an incredible, caring woman for those who needed it x
As a long time member of PETA I was so glad to see/hear Dan Matthews and his remarkable story...Have to order the book now
Thank you for having this podcast. It so helpful to hear these stories. Gives me hope
This is brilliant. Him, the story, the mother. Thank you!!
I just now caught this episode but a few weeks back I saw the book on Mayim's desk and requested it from my library...I am actually in process of reading this and I am so glad I caught this episode!
It’s so touching to hear from another survivor of the AIDS area. Maybe one day you’ll find someone who can testify about how it is for us after going through so much death, and social fighting and dealing with potentially killing (infecting) the person you love and stuff. More on subject, I’ve had a few schizophrenic patients and the fact that they were mothers really helped them maintain control before the diagnostic and treatment.
Amazing interview. Dan is an amazing person!! If all people were like him, our world would be perfect!!! Thank you Mayim!!!
Your podcast is an absolute delight for me!!!! Sending you much gratitude and appreciation for this content from Korea
What a beautiful man and heartfelt interview. I learned so much and am inspired to live an amazing life, just like this lady, despite my challenges. I can’t wait to read this book!
So sad that she had to go thru almost her entire life struggling with this. I'm glad that in the final years of her life she was able to get some peace. What an amazing son, taking care of her all those years. I struggle with anxiety and depression and both of my parents live with me. It's definitely not without it's challenges. I love this podcast. Thank you Mayim for doing your part to destigmatize mental illness. The more we talk about it the less we'll judge and the better we'll understand and empathize. 💜
Loved this episode. Thank you fir sharing. Ordering the book.
Oh my!! I just watched this episode and I just can’t adequately explain how gorgeous this story is and encouraging. Love him. Love his mother, Perry. Ordering his book right now. Wow.
Dan you honored your mother with such love and compassion, my tears are tears of joy for you ❤❤❤
Such a powerful episode, thank you so much!! 🙏💕🙌
The dignity of her experience. AMEN 🙏
Thank you so much for this inspiring and mind-opening episode, I am absolutely excited to read the book and learn something new!
Wow, wow, wow!! Just an exceptional episode. I enjoyed it so much!! ❤️ 🌻 🌞
Love this episode! My sister has psychotic schizophrenia and in my experience agreeing really works well. I'll validate what she's saying like "That celeb owes you millions of dollars!?! Well that's really frustrating, no wonder you're upset...you want some tea or something?" she's always like "yeah.....big sigh of relief."
Added the book to my “To Be Read List”. Loved this episode. ❤️ thank you
Just wow. I want him to be my best friend. His views and...eloquence are astounding to me and make me want to be better and DO better.
Thank you. Truly.
I got the depression type the voices can get loud and it's hard to ignore them.
I am so living for this podcasts 💚
I think someone needs to make some adjustments to the info on this episode? I’m very curious about the chapter he wanted to make available. Although I did find the whole book on my audiobook subscription, so I’m starting that one soon. I had not heard of him before, but this interview was very lovely. The love in how Dan, and Mayim, talked about his mom, so respectful. Going to listen to this episode again, but for now, the thing that stayed with me is that part about acknowledging what the person said without wanting to be right? That can and should be applied in so many relationships, also very much in my life. Great episode as always, thank you for sharing!
Hi Mayim please keep these podcasts coming every single episode has been awesome you and Jonathan make a great team from everyone here in the UK thank you , you have a lot of fans over here in England 🏴 who love and care about you keep been safe lots of love Claire xx 💚❤️
Thank you so much for this episode
It could be that I saw on previous #Bialikbreakdown episodes the books of Dan Mathews over Mayim’s desk? 🤔 I need to check it asap...And a though after watching this moving, full of love, humor and empathy episode (Mayim and Jonathan hit the nail again, and again, and again..episode after episode..) I ask myself how many if not all of the saints, prophets, mystics, vissionaries, ancient gurus of all religions, as for example Catholic saints and mystics St. Theresa of Avila & St. John of the Cross, were Schizophrenic patients sawn under the XXI Century Neuroscience and Psychiatry. With all my due respect to all religions and as a believer myself. Centuries ago we respected them, made them our spiritual guides..and today we stigmatize the people suffering the same! It’s because that that Dan Mathews book about his mom is so worth to be read. Going to Kindle now (and OMG..my list of books to be read after this #BIALIKBREAKDOWN is going large..luckily summer is on the corner...) 😘
Wow! What an amazing episode!
I love this interview! We don’t know enough about schizophrenia. I would love Mayim to also interview Grace M. Cho author of “Tastes Like War” where she talks about her mom’s schizophrenia and Esme Weijun Wang author of “The Collective Schizophrenias”.
Dan is such an amazing person!! I can't wait to read his book and hopefully watch the movie one day!!
Just bought Dan's book online, cant wait until it arrives and I can read it
Thank you
Loved this episode! I just ordered his book and I’m so excited to read it!!!!
What an amazing story and so helpful to me and people in my life.
This episode was honestly so heartwarming and I cried a couple of times. I'm so glad I listened to this episode and this podcast. Thank you so much for having such an amazing person on and thank you Dan for sharing your mother and your story. This podcast is definitely so amazing and I'm so glad it exists because I get to understand more and learn more. Thank you so much Mayim for creating such an incredible platform to talk about mental health and thank you Jonathan for being such a wonderful co host. You both make this podcast one of the best podcast and I love it so much.
Hi Mayim and Jonathan ; I can't tell you both how much I really love your podcast. I haven't miss one of them yet. I have seen a lot of counselors or even therapist over the years. And I'm loving your podcast. There is really to much of hate and judging of each other. In what we say to others , to what we wear ,to how we speak to each other. And who we are if we are different from each other. We get call different names when we go through school or life...
I had no idea who Dan Matthews was but I adore him. Love so much!
Thank you, Mayim for another great podcast! ☯️💜
I have Schizoaffective Disorder. I needed this so freaking bad.
I love watching these episodes! They have been quite helpful with managing my own mental health, and reminding myself to go easy on myself during depressive moments. Anna Shinoda did a great stream/Instagram Live last week for World Health Awareness day/week! She would be an excellent guest to bring on this show as well.
This podcast has thought me so much about world and my own mind. Priceless. Thank you! 😊
Thank you for this podcast. I sent you a detailed message on your site about it.
Thank you 💖
I would love for you to do a segment on Parents that are dealing with estrangement from their adult Kids. My estrangement started 5 yrs ago. There are 100 of thousands of parents that are dealing with this issue. Tell me what you think.
Well, these dynamics of unravelling and detachment between children and parents happen as a result of how the relationship went down across its entire duration. This doesn't happen out of the blue late in life.
The name changing is far more consistent with dissociative disorder. The taking in of strays is consistent with past situations that would cause dissociation. Fantasy conversations and concerns with and for safety is a way the brain works as a result of neglect and abuse. The voices could be a result of unnecessary and over or mis-prescribed medication leaving long term effects. Dissociation is far from understood. Straight up schizophrenia is rare. Adaptive survival of the mind working to protect a child experiencing unspeakable stress is sadly far far too common.
What really needs to be discussed is the trauma and neglect and poor and unreasonable situations in early childhood that result in the various forms of mental illness.
So how does this guy reconcile psych med research and his core beliefs?
My ex boyfriend was diagnosed as bipolar when he was 39 years old. It was when we were together and he had a maniac episode. I thought that it was because he was working too much and sleeping too little. For about 6 months no doctor told us what was happening until we went to visit a doctor because he wanted to stop taking his medication. When I knew his true diagnose I read about it as much as I could, every single article got me even more scared of him. I didn't wanted to hurt him as he never hurt me, but I knew I had to leave that relationship. It was destroying me, I have other mental issues. So I talked to his family, we lived in a different country, and decided to convince him to go home with them and being treated there where he would have the best care he could find. I don't know how is him right now, what I know is the struggle to take care of someone with a mental illness without knowing what to do and how to care for them as best as you can. Dan Mathews, I admire you.
This was such a touching story!!
His comment about our care for old people being shoddy really hit home. My dad is 93 and in April had an episode where he required some rehab in a nursing home. THEY WERE AWFUL about letting us talk to him, not even see him, we just wanted to talk to him, but they would not go to his room and give him a phone that worked even though I called every single day while he was there to ask how he was and what was going on. My mom, married to my dad for over 60 years couldn't even get them to let her talk to him. It was awful
In the book "The Girl Who Sang to the Buffalo", author Kent Nerburn touches on the Native Americans and their treatment because they had a different way of being with the earth, animals, life and went against assimilation methods. They were branded insane and shipped off to "The Hiawatha Asylum Insane Asylum. The treatment there was incredibly cruel. I am giving this as an example, prickliness aside, because I wonder how much society and the inability to provide a loving space for people with a varied type of "mental illness" or ways of being in existence actually cause the mental illness to be more then it should be. I question the mental health industry because I feel like it is way too eager to diagnosis and medicate without any long term studies of the cause/affect of these drugs. I mean, what is the latest Tardive Dyskinesia? I feel like we are still trying to treat away people so they can fit into the square pegs of our current societal norms. Just thoughts. I will read his book because it sounds amazing. Thank you for this sharing this wonderful interview.
THIS IS MY FAVORITE EPISODE SO FAR
What a great interview
I’m crying with you !
Mayim. I love your show so much. ❤️❤️
Really great show. Thanks
What an awesome man! I will be reading his book...
This story is so beautiful.
What an amazing story. I love it.
Loved this episode.
I so want to read this book, especially to get to the grand ending. I'm so curious. I absolutely love this podcast in general but this specific one was so beautiful, endearing, moving, and touching to me. The way Dan sees and relates to his mother really imparts what a special and beautiful human she was, and shows how special and beautiful he is. I believe both physical and mental Illnesses are often times responses to trauma and keep us safe in some way. Or at the very least have metaphysical underlying causes. When my mother had dementia, my brother was the one who just "went along with it" and I was the one who kept correcting her. It wasn't about right or wrong, I just wanted to keep her in this reality, or help her to stay sane/healthy or to help her continue to live in the same world of agreed upon truth of what's real. That kept me safe too. Anyways, loved Dan and how he unfolded this story. I will get this book. Beautiful and important interview. Thank you so much. Btw, loved the colorful lights behind him. Although it kept pulling my focus. Lol.
You will be at 2M sub in no time. 💗
Greetings from Costa Mesa...yay! 🍊☀️🌊
Schizoaffective describes my psychosis episodes as part of my bipolar diagnosis.
This is the best podcast!
I love Mayim. She’s super wise and funny😆 And Amy’s super lovable
@mayim bialik Loved this talk with Dan! Would like to get his book but the links in the video description are for Alison Desir. Just a heads up