1:26:46 The reason Odysseus and his Trojan horse are mecha-themed is because in some interpretations of the Odyssey, Athena is in love with Odysseus; protecting him throughout his journey out of admiration. Fate doubles down on that interpretation by giving him the Aegis as a present from Athena, which is his helmet and suit. Furthermore, Fate does something funky in their lore. In Fate’s version of Greek mythology, all the Greek gods are mechanical kaijus that split off from Chaos, who in Fate’s interpretation, was a AI-piloted alien spaceship from some unknown planet that sailed across the cosmos in search of a habitable planet.
Thanks for that :) I played through Olympus so I know about mecha gods. Suspected it was partly why Odysseus has a mecha but didn't know the exact lore there.
I played Olympus back before I streamed FGO, I didn't have a good time. I also ended up beating the memorial quest version off stream which was easier with a buffed Ozy@@aliveandkicking5461
It is just the generation of Titans and the 12 Olympians that were Machine (gods). Other Greek gods were either autochthonous gods integrated into the Greek pantheon (like the Gorgon sisters or Astrea) or descendants of the Machine god's humanoid Terminals (and in some cases humans) (especially after Sefar destroyed their Aletheia [machine bodies]).
1:58:43 Himiko was the first Japanese person named in a written source, not a Chinese empress, but a Japanese Queen. Queen of Yamatai, one of the many states/federations of communities in Japan, and "friend of Wei" due her diplomatic contact with the state of Wei in the Three Kingdoms Period of Chinese history. She was shaman/miko -like spirit medium and used her spiritual authority to guide her country while remaining secluded in her palace/fortress. She is mentioned in the almost contemporary Chinese Chronicles of Wei, a few later Chinese sources and a one Korean source written much later.
Fun fact about Nero, she actually can't normally be summoned as a saber. She used her Imperial Privilege rank EX to force the summoning ritual to make her a saber cause it is officially the strongest class.
I think its also because if she where a Rider she acually would be closer to Proper Historycal Nero. Meaning she would be mentally way more instable and evil do to the history of Nero and she dosnt want that, and only as a Saber can she be properly her acual real self
If I had a nickel for every time someone in a "guess the fate character" video said they didn't realize Blackbeard had a real name, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
@@babylonnightfgo IIRC the oldest text that references Himiko was from China and in those sources she came from Japan, which the Chinese called them the Wa states or something, in ancient times. So I guess it's up to interpretation because she also appears in ancient Korean texts too. I search up servants that are in the game so I don't know if this is correct since it's been a while since I searched her up.
I understand why Morgan is a Berserker and it make a lot more sense to make her a Caster which is why they probably made her a caster as summer Morgan in JP. IIRC Berserkers whole thing is that they are fixated on one thing to the point of madness or they have madness enchantment when they are summoned. I believe Caligula's thing is that he is either obsessed with the moon goddess Diana or obsessed with Nero (I don't remember which one), Spartacus' thing is he is obsessed with fighting against oppression, Kiyohime's is an obsession with her master which turns her into a yandere, and I believe this version of Morgan has an obsession with taking Camelot for herself which eventually becomes the destruction of Britain.
Nope, this version of Morgan from the Fairy Britain Lostbelt is completely different than the Morgan from Pan-Human history. Without going too much into spoilers, at birth she was given a purpose: To unite all of the fairy clans. The problem? In fate, Fairys are inherently selfish, innocent creatures. They do whatever they please on a whim and they do NOT take kindly to Morgan's attempts to unite them. After THOUSANDS of years of trying to unite the clans and suffering countless setbacks, she decided "screw it, if you all won't unite to create a peaceful Britain in the end, I will just rule you all as a tyrant." The reason that Morgan became a caster in her summer form is simply because she wanted to compete with her counterpart and rival, Artoria Avalon, who is a caster class servant.
@@snacki_6730 From what I remember this version is from Pan-Human history because Baryl Gut summoned her in the beginning and when he went to sleep she did magecraft similar to a rayshift to send her Pan-Human history memories to her Lostbelt counterpart, so the body is from the lostbelt but the memories are Pan-Human history.
@@marcdestroyer13correct. Fae Queen Morgan was influenced by her PHH version, in so much as it lead to her survival. And from there, the general shitty situation did the rest. But the base Fae is still in there. As we see in small actions like when she asks you what you think of her Kingdom.
She god the memories and knowledge from PHH Morgan yes, but she did not become her. Her (Lb6 morgan) life took a completely different path than PHH morgan and has gone through different experiences than the PHH one. She is almost a completely different person when you compare the two. @@marcdestroyer13
Came back to finish the last hour and the first servant they have to guess is Orion who gives it away in the art cause it has his constellation on his body and couldnt help but laugh at how hard they struggled with it.
there is a fun theory that drake in fate is queen elizabeth pretending to be drake to explore the world main hint is the scar cause apparently her face is disfigured (queen elizabeth) always liked the theory but no real evidence
Ever since the days of Fate Extra I have that Idea of an Alter version of Drake in head that just straight up says she is Elizabeth I (a.k.a Queen Gloriana, which is even funnier given that we now have Britomart, daughter of Britomart, a loyal Knight of the Fairy Queen Gloriana as a Servant ...).
It was hintet at in the first fate Extra game but after that NEVER braught up again. So we probably wont kno until we get Queen Eizabath and if its a guy in a dress we know the truth
Angra Mainyu isn't in Rasputin's NP because of Kirei. Servants in the Alterego class combine multiple heroic or divine spirits into their Saint Graph, and one of his is Azi Dahaka.
I just think it's funny because a servant's legend and name is what gives them their power/scaling and their np is tied close to that as well so if anything the most knowing thing would always be to know the nobles phantasm. Ofc they wouldnt know that but 💀
To be fair not ewrey Servant has a NP that gives it away. Like Knight of Owner dosnt exactly say much and his NP Animation in the game is summoning a fighter Jet. So seeing the animation would probably just have confused the heck out of them
1:52:20 I have yet to find a source of Red Hare being a Mare (female horse). Everywhere I look at he's just either a male horse or without an explicitly stated gender. The whole being a mare thing is I've only seen it mentioned within Fate communities, and nowhere else.
It`s more of a rule to war horses. Only mares were taken to war because they more obedient and senile then males. Though some famous horses were males like Red Hare and Bucephalus
@@babylonnightfgoI think it would be more interesting and fun if after they guessed the Servants, you can show them the Noble Phantasms. Or they can guess who are they from the Noble Phantasm.
I think it's a way better thought out format compared to the ones where the host gives free hints one after another. But the participants still have an advantage due to there being 4 of them and they can latch onto a good or close enough guess so that devalues the hints as a whole. It would've looked even better if the participants used the hints and submitted their answers individually
If my friends were all history nerds I'd have done that. But I let them play as a team to help each other as they're not super knowledgeable about history individually
I know that here and there I may have gotten the lore a bit wrong or accidentally said the wrong thing about a character. But I do play this game, so please bear that in mind when you correct me in the comments.
I'd prefer if you wait for them to lock the answer in before giving the answer. The moment someone just throw Nero's name out, you're already confirming that's her, without letting them discuss or lock in first.
I did not know he had an English VA until I looked it up during this stream. (Where I watched Babylonia it only had some of it in dub) I love how my friends just got that right
Demeter truly left marks on me as well. But moreso Cernunnos. Why did every stack of curse have to tick separately? WHY? (Rip my poor man Heracles) I tried a few setups and eventually went 'fuck that' and chucked leyline stones at him.
@@babylonnightfgo Indeed. I tried many setups. Himiko and Buster-crits for her Curse-Immunity, Enkidu for big damage in general, Herakles because of guts (which failed spectacularly), Mash+Merlin+Castoria to outlast him. But none worked.
This is a great video the you got wrong was the sigurd thing , sigurd wasn't the one that killed fafnir it was siegfried , sigurd was brunhild's husband
Lancelot NP: Let’s him use anything he considers a weapon as a low rank np Edit: Christian…CHRISTIAN!? THAT DAMNED BLOODY PRIEST IS ANYTHING EXCEPT RELIGIOUS This applies to both-THE PRIEST and THAT THING THAT DWELLS WITHIN HIM NO NO NO-IF THAT THING WAS JESUS IT WOULD BE STRAIGHT UP BLASPHEMOUS 🤣🤣🤣
It is kinda funny that the more outlandish and creative designs get, the more likely they'll be called "generic" unironically. I always found that strange with this generations anime watchers. Either way, decent guesses, but they're second guessing themselves too much trying to be brilliant with bad memes lol.
1:26:46 The reason Odysseus and his Trojan horse are mecha-themed is because in some interpretations of the Odyssey, Athena is in love with Odysseus; protecting him throughout his journey out of admiration.
Fate doubles down on that interpretation by giving him the Aegis as a present from Athena, which is his helmet and suit.
Furthermore, Fate does something funky in their lore.
In Fate’s version of Greek mythology, all the Greek gods are mechanical kaijus that split off from Chaos, who in Fate’s interpretation, was a AI-piloted alien spaceship from some unknown planet that sailed across the cosmos in search of a habitable planet.
Thanks for that :)
I played through Olympus so I know about mecha gods. Suspected it was partly why Odysseus has a mecha but didn't know the exact lore there.
@@babylonnightfgohow was the Demeter fight for you?
I played Olympus back before I streamed FGO, I didn't have a good time.
I also ended up beating the memorial quest version off stream which was easier with a buffed Ozy@@aliveandkicking5461
It is just the generation of Titans and the 12 Olympians that were Machine (gods). Other Greek gods were either autochthonous gods integrated into the Greek pantheon (like the Gorgon sisters or Astrea) or descendants of the Machine god's humanoid Terminals (and in some cases humans) (especially after Sefar destroyed their Aletheia [machine bodies]).
1:58:43 Himiko was the first Japanese person named in a written source, not a Chinese empress, but a Japanese Queen. Queen of Yamatai, one of the many states/federations of communities in Japan, and "friend of Wei" due her diplomatic contact with the state of Wei in the Three Kingdoms Period of Chinese history. She was shaman/miko -like spirit medium and used her spiritual authority to guide her country while remaining secluded in her palace/fortress. She is mentioned in the almost contemporary Chinese Chronicles of Wei, a few later Chinese sources and a one Korean source written much later.
I know. I kinda derped and accidently said the wrong thing, and didn't realise until I was editing the VOD
Fun fact about Nero, she actually can't normally be summoned as a saber. She used her Imperial Privilege rank EX to force the summoning ritual to make her a saber cause it is officially the strongest class.
I think its also because if she where a Rider she acually would be closer to Proper Historycal Nero. Meaning she would be mentally way more instable and evil do to the history of Nero and she dosnt want that, and only as a Saber can she be properly her acual real self
I find it funny how they all defaulted into thinking that they could be gods when there's only been like 1-3 gods in this and some demigods
If I had a nickel for every time someone in a "guess the fate character" video said they didn't realize Blackbeard had a real name, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
1:55:34 Europa is not a Greek goddess, she was a princess that was one of the many unfortunate victims of Zeus and his horny escapades.
I remembered that afterwards, should probably have checked before I got to that part (I also derped and said Himiko was chinese and not Japanese)
@@babylonnightfgo IIRC the oldest text that references Himiko was from China and in those sources she came from Japan, which the Chinese called them the Wa states or something, in ancient times. So I guess it's up to interpretation because she also appears in ancient Korean texts too. I search up servants that are in the game so I don't know if this is correct since it's been a while since I searched her up.
I understand why Morgan is a Berserker and it make a lot more sense to make her a Caster which is why they probably made her a caster as summer Morgan in JP. IIRC Berserkers whole thing is that they are fixated on one thing to the point of madness or they have madness enchantment when they are summoned. I believe Caligula's thing is that he is either obsessed with the moon goddess Diana or obsessed with Nero (I don't remember which one), Spartacus' thing is he is obsessed with fighting against oppression, Kiyohime's is an obsession with her master which turns her into a yandere, and I believe this version of Morgan has an obsession with taking Camelot for herself which eventually becomes the destruction of Britain.
Nope, this version of Morgan from the Fairy Britain Lostbelt is completely different than the Morgan from Pan-Human history. Without going too much into spoilers, at birth she was given a purpose: To unite all of the fairy clans. The problem? In fate, Fairys are inherently selfish, innocent creatures. They do whatever they please on a whim and they do NOT take kindly to Morgan's attempts to unite them. After THOUSANDS of years of trying to unite the clans and suffering countless setbacks, she decided "screw it, if you all won't unite to create a peaceful Britain in the end, I will just rule you all as a tyrant."
The reason that Morgan became a caster in her summer form is simply because she wanted to compete with her counterpart and rival, Artoria Avalon, who is a caster class servant.
@@snacki_6730 From what I remember this version is from Pan-Human history because Baryl Gut summoned her in the beginning and when he went to sleep she did magecraft similar to a rayshift to send her Pan-Human history memories to her Lostbelt counterpart, so the body is from the lostbelt but the memories are Pan-Human history.
@@marcdestroyer13correct. Fae Queen Morgan was influenced by her PHH version, in so much as it lead to her survival. And from there, the general shitty situation did the rest. But the base Fae is still in there. As we see in small actions like when she asks you what you think of her Kingdom.
@@marcdestroyer13 the version summoned by Beryl was Ruler
She god the memories and knowledge from PHH Morgan yes, but she did not become her. Her (Lb6 morgan) life took a completely different path than PHH morgan and has gone through different experiences than the PHH one. She is almost a completely different person when you compare the two. @@marcdestroyer13
2:02:00 to be fair Wada Arco do love drawing cultured art
she even said her favorite part when drawing Melt art is her butt
Came back to finish the last hour and the first servant they have to guess is Orion who gives it away in the art cause it has his constellation on his body and couldnt help but laugh at how hard they struggled with it.
there is a fun theory that drake in fate is queen elizabeth pretending to be drake to explore the world main hint is the scar cause apparently her face is disfigured (queen elizabeth) always liked the theory but no real evidence
I think it was mentioned in extra, as a rumor, but never actually expanded on
Ever since the days of Fate Extra I have that Idea of an Alter version of Drake in head that just straight up says she is Elizabeth I (a.k.a Queen Gloriana, which is even funnier given that we now have Britomart, daughter of Britomart, a loyal Knight of the Fairy Queen Gloriana as a Servant ...).
The biggest hint is actually Drake's height in game. It is literally the same height as Elizabeth and *not* Drake's height irl.
It was hintet at in the first fate Extra game but after that NEVER braught up again. So we probably wont kno until we get Queen Eizabath and if its a guy in a dress we know the truth
Angra Mainyu isn't in Rasputin's NP because of Kirei. Servants in the Alterego class combine multiple heroic or divine spirits into their Saint Graph, and one of his is Azi Dahaka.
Is that spirit not also there because of Kirei's connection to Angra Mainyu?
I also don't know all of the extra spirits in various servants
The reason why LB Morgan is a berserker is because the stuff she went through would drive anyone insane
I just think it's funny because a servant's legend and name is what gives them their power/scaling and their np is tied close to that as well so if anything the most knowing thing would always be to know the nobles phantasm. Ofc they wouldnt know that but 💀
But without the np animation having the region eras does help
To be fair not ewrey Servant has a NP that gives it away. Like Knight of Owner dosnt exactly say much and his NP Animation in the game is summoning a fighter Jet. So seeing the animation would probably just have confused the heck out of them
Very fun and funny to watch your friends figure out which husbando was which!
Surprised me that they got Blackbeard with no sweat
1:52:20 I have yet to find a source of Red Hare being a Mare (female horse). Everywhere I look at he's just either a male horse or without an explicitly stated gender. The whole being a mare thing is I've only seen it mentioned within Fate communities, and nowhere else.
There's not a lot of historical info on Red Hare that I can find.
Maybe the idea of it being a mare is because it's not depicted with a dick?
@@babylonnightfgo That would be a wild reason if it's the case.
I wonder who was the first person to mention it in the community.
It`s more of a rule to war horses. Only mares were taken to war because they more obedient and senile then males. Though some famous horses were males like Red Hare and Bucephalus
Kirei....jesus
God that's funny
Altaugh there next guess was Satan wich is also not that far away. Except it was Rin who summoned Acually Satan
Medb isn't a rider because of her chariot, she is a rider because she rides Men
This was very interesting to watch. I hope you keep this series going lol
I might need to mix up the format a bit if I do some more. I think I'm running out of characters who my friends might know
@@babylonnightfgoI think it would be more interesting and fun if after they guessed the Servants, you can show them the Noble Phantasms. Or they can guess who are they from the Noble Phantasm.
to be fair wada arco has stated she likes drawing meltlilith booty so she truly is cultured
Who else got the Padoru Meme in their head, when they mentioned Santa Clause....with NERO XD
Im acually suprised there isnt yet a Santa Nero XD
I think it's a way better thought out format compared to the ones where the host gives free hints one after another. But the participants still have an advantage due to there being 4 of them and they can latch onto a good or close enough guess so that devalues the hints as a whole. It would've looked even better if the participants used the hints and submitted their answers individually
If my friends were all history nerds I'd have done that. But I let them play as a team to help each other as they're not super knowledgeable about history individually
1:33:00
Azreal is also the angel of death in Islam.
Thanks for the 9K views and counting. I'm glad you all enjoyed this video as much as the last one
I know that here and there I may have gotten the lore a bit wrong or accidentally said the wrong thing about a character. But I do play this game, so please bear that in mind when you correct me in the comments.
Considering how well read your friends are, the fact you basically fed them the answers to most in the end is kind of a bummer.
I just noticed Super Orion has a lot of the Orion constellation on him
As soon as I posted the comment on your last video I noticed this one! PERFECT :D
Another 10K views on a video? Thank you all so much. I'm glad i can keep making videos that so many people enjoy. Hopefully i can continue to do so
I'd prefer if you wait for them to lock the answer in before giving the answer. The moment someone just throw Nero's name out, you're already confirming that's her, without letting them discuss or lock in first.
same with the bonus round, you just confirm the answer before they even lock it in. Just small a pet peeve of mine.
1:29:25 Yes, in the anime adaptation of F:GO, ADF; B he is
I did not know he had an English VA until I looked it up during this stream. (Where I watched Babylonia it only had some of it in dub) I love how my friends just got that right
i still have ptsd on demeter boss fight
Demeter truly left marks on me as well.
But moreso Cernunnos. Why did every stack of curse have to tick separately? WHY? (Rip my poor man Heracles)
I tried a few setups and eventually went 'fuck that' and chucked leyline stones at him.
Demeter was hard, but Cernunnos felt so unnecessarily unfair
@@babylonnightfgo Indeed. I tried many setups. Himiko and Buster-crits for her Curse-Immunity, Enkidu for big damage in general, Herakles because of guts (which failed spectacularly), Mash+Merlin+Castoria to outlast him. But none worked.
God i love these
I got to know that Medb`s name is pronounced as Maeve
This is a great video the you got wrong was the sigurd thing , sigurd wasn't the one that killed fafnir it was siegfried , sigurd was brunhild's husband
They both kill Fafnir in their legends somewhere. Sigurd is the Norse version and Siegfried is germanic
At 2:02:58 she accidently revealed the answer.
1:36:00 Why his name is written Hassan-i? It should be Hassan-ibn
I took it from Wikipedia. (I wanted to make sure it was spelt right and hadn't seen -ibn anywhere)
@@babylonnightfgo all arab names have ibn which means "from" I think
Can't wait for part 3🔥🔥🔥🔥
Lancelot NP: Let’s him use anything he considers a weapon as a low rank np
Edit: Christian…CHRISTIAN!? THAT DAMNED BLOODY PRIEST IS ANYTHING EXCEPT RELIGIOUS
This applies to both-THE PRIEST and THAT THING THAT DWELLS WITHIN HIM
NO NO NO-IF THAT THING WAS JESUS IT WOULD BE STRAIGHT UP BLASPHEMOUS 🤣🤣🤣
1:58:45 *Japanese.
Yeah, I had a brain fart and didn't realise until editing that I said the wrong thing
Why episode list says there is Hercules and he isn`t there?
Episode list?
@@babylonnightfgo next to video time
@@pakboris2268 must be some auto caption thing because I didn't set those
@@babylonnightfgo isn`t that thing manual?
@@pakboris2268 No.
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It is kinda funny that the more outlandish and creative designs get, the more likely they'll be called "generic" unironically. I always found that strange with this generations anime watchers. Either way, decent guesses, but they're second guessing themselves too much trying to be brilliant with bad memes lol.