I'm not a tree but i could say when a person had a tracheotomia, we put a lil scarf. These girls has been put on theirs coffins with scarfs, so i do think they have been slaughtered. I'm hoping they died very rapidly with no sufferings AND together in same time for no living that alone
you have just proved walking from the cemetery to crime scene is also just as easy to walk from crime scene to cemetery thus maybe the escape route which i thought possible from the get go
@@JustTheFacts317 Randy had live last night. This is not the cemetery or even crime scene. Toward the end of his live it comes up. Not even Delphi he said LMAO
Here as the jury deliberates. Thank you for this, I’d seen a recent one but wanted to find one with the trees bare. It’s a lot easier to walk, although I think you also took a different route than the one I watched, who walked through the ravine. All I know is they’ve got the wrong guy and tortured him for months on end to believe he did it. The entire case against him is so weak, full of holes and suss. They never thought he’d go to trial, that is obvious
Ok, for those of you who havent been there, this looks easy. I took a different route. And I didn't go in alone. Walking into that area, I had such a negative feeling. Ive always paid attention to my intuition. and I will state this, I memorized trail maps prior to visiting and reviewed video. I had no problem navigating any part of the trail or finding the various landmarks that locals know. So in other words, BG might be a local, but he also may be a killer who memorizes exactly as I did. to the killer, the reward just increased by $100 K, more than enough to get you turned in. Your day is coming, perhaps sooner than you think. Local or not, LE has a damn good idea who you are by now.
But where is this exactly? Can you explain what minute the crime scene was? How far was this from the bridge? And the bridge was pretty high, how did they get down there? Or do you know a video/map that shows exactly which way they went all the way to the crime scene? Im pretty confused😩
I also agree with you, as this is like the 10th post I've seen today alone saying the same thing that people including myself are getting these vibes that this guy or people are going to be brought in sooner then he might think...🙏🙏
O have been to countless areas of park and forest and wilderness and navigated around from studying first. They didn't have to be local... just someone who had the intent to go there
Thank you, I have been searching for on foot footage of this exact route. I wondered what the tereign was really like. Plenty of people have walked the bridge and all around the area, driven from the cemetery to the start of the trail but never walked this path. The only places I have not seen anyone film any footage of is this route and the full private driveway, which I have yet to find.
Honor and Respect Is it possible that the murderers are politically motivated. Is it possible that the murders in Evansdale Iowa are connected to the murders in Delphi Indiana. Is it possible that the killer is a railroad worker. Is it possible that the killer is a Railfan Foamer. Is it possible that the killer is a TH-cam Creator, filming and editing and uploading programs about railways. Is the greatest clue in the two second video. Is the greatest clue that the man is extremely comfortable on the deck of the bridge, and moves across the bridge like Fred Astaire. Out of five hundred men, how many would be as graceful as Fred Astaire on the deck of that bridge. What would make that man so comfortable. Does he work on railroads. Has he worked for railroads since 2003. Is he angry that towns are tearing up abadoned railroads to create pathways for walking, jogging, and cycling Is is online handle a Railworkers Slang name for a rail worker. Is his name online Car Knocker, or UPCARKNOCKER.
He definitely knew the area well. He made them cross the creek to an area that was out of view from the near by houses to carry out the attack and more than likely this was also near his escape route. Could he of walked in and out on foot almost undetected?
@@georginastoliker3358 Ma'am ask yourself a simple question.....how could ANY witness know that someone they saw on the trail was the killer? Even if the person was dressed similar to the person in the video. The question was "COULD he have walked in and out on foot almost undetected"? The correct answer is "yes that is possible".
@Stephanie Woods The video show's a man who is believed to be the killer confronting the girls on the south end of the bridge. There is audio of him ordering them "down the hill". There is a hill right there on the south side of the bridge. It is about a 170-200 yard walk from the south side of the bridge to the NORTH side of the creek where the bodies were found. Libby's shoe was found between those two points on the SOUTH side of the creek.....in a direct line between the abduction point and the bodies. One of two things happened....either he made them cross the creek....or they made a run for it through the water and he caught up with them on the north side. I hope this helps.
I always thought BG entered and left through the cemetery. I still believe no one saw him and he always stayed on the south end of the bridge until the girls started crossing. BG was the "troll" of that bridge just waiting for his prey to show up. Nuts this is not solved yet. Very good content. Thanks
@@peterpiwoski5677lol WTF are you talking about???? It’s a public park. People SHOULD know where it’s at for several reasons. And those girls SHOULD be remembered through memorials and visits there.
UnderC0ver0047: How’d you know I’m a genius? I have tried it multiple times bud with many more acres than this area and I have no problem. Hunting apps give you the terrain information enough to know the woods/forest without stepping foot in the area. The evidence that gets me is how comfortable he was crossing that bridge and him somewhat having to know the traffic of hikers through that area. Some hiking trails people barely go on, others have people come past every couple minutes on average. That is the evidence he might be from that area but even than...it could be 2,3,4 towns over in any direction.
@@abigmanpublications you know one of the physic said that the girl's when she done her cards says a coach killed them. And they said the girlfriend whom ever she was his girlfriend. I don't know. Let me know if you hear anything please.
@@danbrown2816 I thought the vid maker would show the exact spot where the girls were found! I actually know, but I thought maybe this person would have shown others, especially since a vid was made, showing crime scene. I mean why make a video, showing the crime scene area... but yet not showing the crime scene area??? There are people on here wondering!!!
@amyelle smit .... Yeah it did seem like he was going in circles. And if he would have just said over here is where the girls were found, and pointed to the area, that would have helped those out that don't know or didn't know exactly where they were found. I mean I would have said or pointed out the area where they were found, if I was going to go out of my way to show crime scene area. Yeah BG knew that area like the back of his hand. I'm sure there's plenty of other people from Delphi that knows those woods very well. However, BG took them to a spot where the girls were pretty much hidden. And it's like how the hell did he know this specific spot existed? If he wasn't from there...
@amyelle smit I'm not a huge Anthony Greeno fan but however he does at least he has taken the initiative to show where they were found in a couple of his videos.
@@briancrandall4482 you can here how heavy his breathing is on the video so he older it sounds like if you pause the video when he is turning himself and pause it at the right time you can see his shadow and he is wearing a hat
@@briancrandall4482 EXACTLY! Seems like if he made a trip out there, just to show the crime scene, why the hell didn't he point it out??? Somebody else asked me what I was "expecting to see"... I wasn't expecting to see anything but it would be nice for the video maker to show everyone else, what they thought they were going to expect to see!!!
Too bad there wasn't a trail cam set up around this area. I just absolutely can't stand the thought the killer is out & about in society. He's most likely still hunting human beings for his twisted mind. He's definitely a local & is watching everyone look out for him. He more than likely put himself in the case & speaks of it often. He's probably right under their noses. Amazing walk thru video 👍 gives me the experience of what their fear must've been. How tragic 😢
Wow that's crazy to hear them sit and argue about her to wear on that day when somebody could have come from a different direction that's where all law enforcement parked I wondered why they acted so weird whenever they said they parked the cemetery probably because they don't want the jury knowing that it is very likely the person who did this parked over there find none of the other stuff would be relevant
I have always wondered if the cemetery has any special meaning to the killer. Did he sleep there at times because he knew no one would bother him as a homeless guy? Did he know anyone buried there? Did he bury anything in there or use it to hide things he used at the crime scene? Did he spend time there growing up? Did they search it pretty well?
Was there a trail or path to the cemetery from the crime scene? Just wonder how hard it would be for the killer to find the cemetery from the spot near the water if that was escape route.
I still say he was from there. And he worked at that meatpacking plant. He knew the area there to well. They have a few suspects but haven't heard anything. This retired FBI agent said he got a text from someone the other day and ask about coming forward. They told him they know the killer. Keep in touch with me and I'll send you his name.
He was definitely from that area. He was comfortable with the area and that's how he was able to make sure he would never be incriminated for it. RL lied about where he was that day 😕
That's the route. Where's the crime scene? You stopped several times. Was one of them the spot where the girls were found? If so, how were we supposed to know that?
@@pamcakes1 the girls and the killer went down the Southside of Kay Weber land and the girls cross the creek to get on Ron Logan land and that's where the killer kill the girls. And the killer left the area through the cemetery
@@Elizabeth-ud7fs I will not tell you anything at all. Since we have people who listens to as above and below which he has been showing the wrong area on his videos
first video I seen from Cematary I been wondering what it looked like walking from Cematary. are they sure they got the right hill when he says down the hill ? Did they search for underground shelters bear by remember movie Lovely Bones .
I wonder how many sick people have been thru here looking for souvenirs and found wat could have been important evidence? This was not directed at the people who went to the site to express respect for the young lives ended too soon.
The down the hill had me the thinking that it's RL, and he was probably not happy they were back there, or he was just simply a sick fuck who wanted to murder them.
Scary odd video released just 1 week before the new reward money went up? Who ever filmed it is a older person you can tell by the way they are out of breath and know where they are going.0:50 and 2:45 sounds like down the hill voice, it has the same tone and maybe same boots shoes 6:16 and looks like maybe even blue jeans? New account one video odd time to post it for no reason? Is that you BG showing us how you left?
Think what you want, but I assure you I'm not BG . And you would be wasting your time to think that. We made this video just to show and answer a lot of questions people have. Got some more videos to come .
@@jefflebowski4182 I very much appreciate this video. Just based off maps I always assumed BG left through the cemetery, but this solidified that for me. Of course it could still be wrong, but the fact that one could easily get from the crime scene to the cemetery in under 5 minutes, without being seen is helpful to ppl not from around there 😊 You stopped a few times to pan around and show the terrain, I imagine had you not, and just trucked straight in, 4 minutes is very possible.
Easy peasy walk!.(Even a big man (who huffs and puffs a little/ sorry Randy Gravitt), but he has also shown these routes on his channel...theory 1) I'm starting to think that BG may have been FSG's brother DAN, who rode a bike, left it near/at cemetery, went something like this route shown...came up from south side of the bridge when girls were already nearly all the way across....went past Libby and then past Abby (who was further towards the south side than when her photo was taken by Libby)...He passed Abby, but then turned back on them. In both the ISP1 photo and the video you can see where its been blocked out slightly on BG's right side momentarily (in video) and a sleeve/arm in the still photo...This is Abby's arm (I believe, as he turns to come back on them)The both were very close to the south end of the bridge. The nail? sticking up (identified by GH & AG) shows positioning. He could have then, as a person responsible for the bridge and park areas and local committees, told them not to go back across the bridge, but to "go down the hill". At the same time FSG could be in position on the northern side of the bridge where Derrick saw him, as did Cheyenne and Cheryl. I don't believe that the "dog lady" actually went to the south end of the trail with her dogs, but she reported seeing young(relative to her age) girls on the bridge....viewed from her own property. LE have blocked out Abbys arm/sleeve on the video, but if you look at the ISP1 still photo you can see it. McCains know that area like the back of their hands. Lots of money was given by different organisations for that bridge/and a whole new touristy appeal for Delphi...McCains are deeply involved in generational "ownership" of being "Delphians"? (and the importance of history.... where is all that money and why has it taken so long for anything to start with bridge repairs????. Motive??? Money shenanigans from local officials? Corruption? The girls witnessing something they shouldn't? "Kiddie fiddling" (or is that an "Australianism") Who knows..What was FSG doing there that day? How did he get there? Did he drive? If so, what sort of car and where did he park it? What time did he arrive and leave? What was he doing before Derrick saw him?And after? Where was DM on that day? (alibi?).Theory 1. Theory 2 = MH in BB's car at CPS building Hmmm Theories 3, 4 and 5 to follow.
Carol carol... Yep! I have had this theory for a long time. Everything you just said. Those brothers had walkie talkies as well. One of em was found in or near Crime scene (per Bobby Camworth).
Tbh this is the only case thats sooo confusing to me no matter how many theories i read or vids i watch i just dont get it. Can you tell more about FSG and why you think theyre suspicious?
what i have gathered both mcains was on the trails but in different areas, why would 2 brothers be in the same place apart ? theory 2 ? i dont know who is MH or BB.
I ran across this just now. Is anyone going to talk in it at all. . I know the killer had to know that area very well to take those precious girls down he hill and murder them😪😪😪😪
@@blakehague7296 There is a lot of speculation around him since it was found out that he lied to LE about where he was that day. I swear to God it was him. I just have this aching, undying nagging feeling that it's him.
@@nicolekear3911 it’s understandable and you might be right. Gut instinct can be our best clue. But it just doesn’t make him guilty. Theirs more about the klines I think.
yeah watching this i felt alcohol, dizziness over power , i felt sick and i feel his energy if only i lived near there i could sense his energy its very specific feels like a boss type and someone who would say you brought this on yourself type of person
Yeah never talks, but doesn’t mean nothing. There’s a handful of people I’ve seen videos of that manon bridge (or whatever it’s spelled) before the girls were killed...like video from 2016 of the bridge the girls were on.
Um no lol! Ron went to jail right after the murders. They have his DNA. If it was him, or any of the other freaks that were suspected and arrested for something else, they would have been char6 WAAAAAYYYY before now. Ron is not at all a suspect.
ron logans alibi was proven to be true . He drove elsewhere and drank alcohol that's why he was arrested for breaking probation. He was not allowed to drink nor drive.
@@TRUTH-BOMB132 beg your pardon but but my statement is absolutely true. I been following this case from day 1 (a little over 5 years) how long have you ?
Me too, I really fckn do because it was on his property. His phone put him at the bridge around the time of the murders and he lied about where he was and asked a relative to tell LE that he was somewhere else. Why would you need someone to do that if you weren't doing something fucking shady?
@@lollipop6311 wrong! Def in the water and not what LE has said. You should take a look at the chopper footage and listen to the chopper audio along with the scanner audio
@@Alma2525 an audio says clothing was found in the water and someone said the girls was in the water but was proven wrong.trust me I have listened and seen the footage
To think one little alcoholic man could do this to two young girls out for a fun hike is horrifying. I still think his wife must have recognized him as bridge guy. Maybe the shock was too much for her to handle.
Honor and Respect Is it possible that the murderers are politically motivated. Is it possible that the murders in Evansdale Iowa are connected to the murders in Delphi Indiana. Is it possible that the killer is a railroad worker. Is it possible that the killer is a Railfan Foamer. Is it possible that the killer is a TH-cam Creator, filming and editing and uploading programs about railways. Is the greatest clue in the two second video. Is the greatest clue that the man is extremely comfortable on the deck of the bridge, and moves across the bridge like Fred Astaire. Out of five hundred men, how many would be as graceful as Fred Astaire on the deck of that bridge. What would make that man so comfortable. Does he work on railroads. Has he worked for railroads since 2003. Is he angry that towns are tearing up abadoned railroads to create pathways for walking, jogging, and cycling Is is online handle a Railworkers Slang name for a rail worker. Is his name online Car Knocker, or UPCARKNOCKER.
I liked no music and no talking. Allowed me to think and study and feel...Thank-you
Me too pookie
The breathing and relative silence creeped me out
Me too. Haunting.
If only the trees could talk. RIP girls.
I'm not a tree but i could say when a person had a tracheotomia, we put a lil scarf. These girls has been put on theirs coffins with scarfs, so i do think they have been slaughtered. I'm hoping they died very rapidly with no sufferings AND together in same time for no living that alone
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" I talk to the trees but they don't listen to me ", from the song "I Talk To The Trees " from movie/ musical "Paint Your Wagon", 1969.
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you have just proved walking from the cemetery to crime scene is also just as easy to walk from crime scene to cemetery thus maybe the escape route which i thought possible from the get go
Yes I agree
@@JustTheFacts317 it's fake
@@UnderCver-bd1xh what is fake ?
@@JustTheFacts317 Randy had live last night. This is not the cemetery or even crime scene. Toward the end of his live it comes up. Not even Delphi he said LMAO
@@UnderCver-bd1xh wow really
Here as the jury deliberates. Thank you for this, I’d seen a recent one but wanted to find one with the trees bare. It’s a lot easier to walk, although I think you also took a different route than the one I watched, who walked through the ravine. All I know is they’ve got the wrong guy and tortured him for months on end to believe he did it. The entire case against him is so weak, full of holes and suss. They never thought he’d go to trial, that is obvious
This is the most egregious miscarriage of justice ever! Never stop fighting for Rick and Abby and Libby! Keep exposing Delphi! #FreeRichardAllen
Ok, for those of you who havent been there, this looks easy. I took a different route. And I didn't go in alone. Walking into that area, I had such a negative feeling. Ive always paid attention to my intuition. and I will state this, I memorized trail maps prior to visiting and reviewed video. I had no problem navigating any part of the trail or finding the various landmarks that locals know. So in other words, BG might be a local, but he also may be a killer who memorizes exactly as I did. to the killer, the reward just increased by $100 K, more than enough to get you turned in. Your day is coming, perhaps sooner than you think. Local or not, LE has a damn good idea who you are by now.
But where is this exactly? Can you explain what minute the crime scene was? How far was this from the bridge? And the bridge was pretty high, how did they get down there? Or do you know a video/map that shows exactly which way they went all the way to the crime scene? Im pretty confused😩
@@---sm6ve go to Anthony Greenos channel ( True Crime investigates) he has a ton of material and awnsered for everything you just asked..
I also agree with you, as this is like the 10th post I've seen today alone saying the same thing that people including myself are getting these vibes that this guy or people are going to be brought in sooner then he might think...🙏🙏
O have been to countless areas of park and forest and wilderness and navigated around from studying first. They didn't have to be local... just someone who had the intent to go there
@@---sm6ve yes. I can visualise this on the map. It looks as expected.
Be more difficult when trees covered in leaves.
Thank you, I have been searching for on foot footage of this exact route. I wondered what the tereign was really like. Plenty of people have walked the bridge and all around the area, driven from the cemetery to the start of the trail but never walked this path. The only places I have not seen anyone film any footage of is this route and the full private driveway, which I have yet to find.
Randy Gravits has a video of him walking the cemetery trail to the 501 trail.
Anthony Greeno has lots of footage. And he's from the area. Grey Hughs had a ton of map information from Google earth
Honor and Respect
Is it possible that the murderers are politically motivated.
Is it possible that the murders in Evansdale Iowa are connected to the murders in Delphi Indiana.
Is it possible that the killer is a railroad worker.
Is it possible that the killer is a Railfan Foamer.
Is it possible that the killer is a TH-cam Creator, filming and editing and uploading programs about railways.
Is the greatest clue in the two second video.
Is the greatest clue that the man is extremely comfortable on the deck of the bridge, and moves across the bridge like Fred Astaire.
Out of five hundred men, how many would be as graceful as Fred Astaire on the deck of that bridge.
What would make that man so comfortable.
Does he work on railroads.
Has he worked for railroads since 2003.
Is he angry that towns are tearing up abadoned railroads to create pathways for walking, jogging, and cycling
Is is online handle a Railworkers Slang name for a rail worker.
Is his name online Car Knocker, or UPCARKNOCKER.
Hoosier cold cases drove down thw private drive.
true! & needed vid!
Thanks. That's a much better perspective than I had seen elsewhere. Easy access for ATV's. One person didn't do this.
He definitely knew the area well. He made them cross the creek to an area that was out of view from the near by houses to carry out the attack and more than likely this was also near his escape route.
Could he of walked in and out on foot almost undetected?
Yes he could walk in and out undetected. My opinion has always been he parked in the back of the cemetery.
@@georginastoliker3358 Ma'am ask yourself a simple question.....how could ANY witness know that someone they saw on the trail was the killer? Even if the person was dressed similar to the person in the video. The question was "COULD he have walked in and out on foot almost undetected"? The correct answer is "yes that is possible".
@@ynp1978 Thanks for the clear up ,sheesh ..I must be over tired ..ugh ..😏👍🏼
@@ynp1978 absolutely
@Stephanie Woods The video show's a man who is believed to be the killer confronting the girls on the south end of the bridge. There is audio of him ordering them "down the hill". There is a hill right there on the south side of the bridge. It is about a 170-200 yard walk from the south side of the bridge to the NORTH side of the creek where the bodies were found. Libby's shoe was found between those two points on the SOUTH side of the creek.....in a direct line between the abduction point and the bodies. One of two things happened....either he made them cross the creek....or they made a run for it through the water and he caught up with them on the north side. I hope this helps.
I always thought BG entered and left through the cemetery. I still believe no one saw him and he always stayed on the south end of the bridge until the girls started crossing. BG was the "troll" of that bridge just waiting for his prey to show up. Nuts this is not solved yet. Very good content. Thanks
me too. He might have changed clothes too.
I think the cemetery does play a key role.
its solved now👍
I thought he was on that side too, it’s terrifying to think about what those girls went through.
how am i supposed to know where the crime scene is
Right?
It's best that NOBODY knows the exact spot for many reasons. First and foremost out of respect for the two girls!
@@peterpiwoski5677lol WTF are you talking about???? It’s a public park. People SHOULD know where it’s at for several reasons. And those girls SHOULD be remembered through memorials and visits there.
@@ChicagoGurl The land where the bodies were found is privately owned land. It was formerly owned by Ron Logan...
@@positively_broad_st3780 ahhh ok Ty
I believe the cemetery was the fastest and logical escape/kidnapping route.
Someone is holding back big time on this case, I've watched every documentary, every short, every press conference.....someone isn't telling the truth
That’s for sure. Kelsi German huge liar.
You watched all that and are still confused? Lol
LE, Prosecutor, and the Patty's are all lying. This has been a huge cover up from day ONE!
Shows me this person HAD to know these woods very very well.
Agreed!!! 1000%!!!!
Not really. There’s a thing called google earth lol.
Brother in law of ex flora fire chief randal
@@usnationalist8150 Go out there and see 🙄 genius.
UnderC0ver0047: How’d you know I’m a genius? I have tried it multiple times bud with many more acres than this area and I have no problem. Hunting apps give you the terrain information enough to know the woods/forest without stepping foot in the area. The evidence that gets me is how comfortable he was crossing that bridge and him somewhat having to know the traffic of hikers through that area. Some hiking trails people barely go on, others have people come past every couple minutes on average. That is the evidence he might be from that area but even than...it could be 2,3,4 towns over in any direction.
A car at the cemetery is the fastest way out of there.
Pause that ish at 5:13 and tell me this ain't BG...
Thought that myself too.
Kind of odd this is a new TH-cam account with one video?
Bro someone made a video of one of the girls fathers talking to a ghost hunter type of show and she said the person who killed her is names Jeff.
@@abigmanpublications you know one of the physic said that the girl's when she done her cards says a coach killed them. And they said the girlfriend whom ever she was his girlfriend. I don't know. Let me know if you hear anything please.
@@abigmanpublications I believe it was Libby’s Mom that was on that ghost hunter video.
What’s the point of this vid anyway? 😴
RUDE
Could you please point out the actual spot that the girls were found?!
What are you expecting to see?
@@danbrown2816 I thought the vid maker would show the exact spot where the girls were found! I actually know, but I thought maybe this person would have shown others, especially since a vid was made, showing crime scene. I mean why make a video, showing the crime scene area... but yet not showing the crime scene area??? There are people on here wondering!!!
@amyelle smit .... Yeah it did seem like he was going in circles. And if he would have just said over here is where the girls were found, and pointed to the area, that would have helped those out that don't know or didn't know exactly where they were found. I mean I would have said or pointed out the area where they were found, if I was going to go out of my way to show crime scene area. Yeah BG knew that area like the back of his hand. I'm sure there's plenty of other people from Delphi that knows those woods very well. However, BG took them to a spot where the girls were pretty much hidden. And it's like how the hell did he know this specific spot existed? If he wasn't from there...
@amyelle smit I'm not a huge Anthony Greeno fan but however he does at least he has taken the initiative to show where they were found in a couple of his videos.
In the hln docu the reporter showed the area
Where was the actual spot?
No one knows. Just one more person trying to feel important by recording the woods.
@@briancrandall4482 you can here how heavy his breathing is on the video so he older it sounds like if you pause the video when he is turning himself and pause it at the right time you can see his shadow and he is wearing a hat
@@lisama2710 what are you trying to say? This video is pointless and helps no one.
@@lisama2710 This isn't the killer.
@@briancrandall4482 EXACTLY! Seems like if he made a trip out there, just to show the crime scene, why the hell didn't he point it out??? Somebody else asked me what I was "expecting to see"... I wasn't expecting to see anything but it would be nice for the video maker to show everyone else, what they thought they were going to expect to see!!!
Where is Mears barn from where the girl's bodies were found?
Is there a classic car stored in that barn?
@@teresadragstream8648 I’m not sure if there is or isn’t. What are you thinking Teresa? That Psychic lady?
Anymore videos El Duderino?
Too bad there wasn't a trail cam set up around this area. I just absolutely can't stand the thought the killer is out & about in society. He's most likely still hunting human beings for his twisted mind. He's definitely a local & is watching everyone look out for him. He more than likely put himself in the case & speaks of it often. He's probably right under their noses. Amazing walk thru video 👍 gives me the experience of what their fear must've been. How tragic 😢
I swear I read somewhere a while back that there were cameras in that area on a property but they werent working that day.
@@lindsay556 They weren't working because they were disarmed. It's easy to disarm a camera.
5-7 years => who else did he hunt and kill ?
Who did he hunt and kill prior to this ?
Wow that's crazy to hear them sit and argue about her to wear on that day when somebody could have come from a different direction that's where all law enforcement parked I wondered why they acted so weird whenever they said they parked the cemetery probably because they don't want the jury knowing that it is very likely the person who did this parked over there find none of the other stuff would be relevant
Thank you.
Just curious, isn't this trespassing private property?
It’s you Brad isn’t it.
November 2024.. Richard Allen is on trial.
@deborahsmith2546 I believe you are 100% correct..
I have always wondered if the cemetery has any special meaning to the killer. Did he sleep there at times because he knew no one would bother him as a homeless guy? Did he know anyone buried there? Did he bury anything in there or use it to hide things he used at the crime scene? Did he spend time there growing up? Did they search it pretty well?
Maybe one of the people who upkeep the cemetery
A better question is why did Mrs Mears go to Logan’s house and rip into his ass about the people cooking meth at the back of the cemetery? AGAIN
Kinda reminds me of the Blair Witch project.
Was there a trail or path to the cemetery from the crime scene? Just wonder how hard it would be for the killer to find the cemetery from the spot near the water if that was escape route.
I still say he was from there. And he worked at that meatpacking plant. He knew the area there to well. They have a few suspects but haven't heard anything. This retired FBI agent said he got a text from someone the other day and ask about coming forward. They told him they know the killer. Keep in touch with me and I'll send you his name.
Who?
@@judytramel5795 full of shit much??
@@judytramel5795 I would like to stay in touch with you, please?
He was definitely from that area. He was comfortable with the area and that's how he was able to make sure he would never be incriminated for it. RL lied about where he was that day 😕
That's the route. Where's the crime scene? You stopped several times. Was one of them the spot where the girls were found? If so, how were we supposed to know that?
This could be anywhere
The killer left through the cemetery after the kill. But was coming from
Kay land to Ron's land
Randy, what do you mean by that? Coming from Kay's land to Ron's land?
@@pamcakes1 the girls and the killer went down the Southside of Kay Weber land and the girls cross the creek to get on Ron Logan land and that's where the killer kill the girls. And the killer left the area through the cemetery
And how do you know this Randy??
@@Elizabeth-ud7fs I will not tell you anything at all. Since we have people who listens to as above and below which he has been showing the wrong area on his videos
Wow! You need to show someone who can solve this, please. These families have suffered long enough.
Why? Why in the H would you let young girls go hang out there? No protection wTH uhhhhhhhh.
ikr. lets just drop them off so that can walk across an 80ft narrow rotting wooden bridge in the middle of nowhere.
And what about the "flat tire" that delayed things.. not likely! Shane
thank you no background music. video was more Real.
first video I seen from Cematary I been wondering what it looked like walking from Cematary. are they sure they got the right hill when he says down the hill ? Did they search for underground shelters bear by remember movie Lovely Bones .
I wonder how many sick people have been thru here looking for souvenirs and found wat could have been important evidence? This was not directed at the people who went to the site to express respect for the young lives ended too soon.
That's alot of work to kill two young girls. What was his motif? So much work and that chance of being seen. So crazy he's not been caught yet.
The down the hill had me the thinking that it's RL, and he was probably not happy they were back there, or he was just simply a sick fuck who wanted to murder them.
Scary odd video released just 1 week before the new reward money went up? Who ever filmed it is a older person you can tell by the way they are out of breath and know where they are going.0:50 and 2:45 sounds like down the hill voice, it has the same tone and maybe same boots shoes 6:16 and looks like maybe even blue jeans? New account one video odd time to post it for no reason? Is that you BG showing us how you left?
Think what you want, but I assure you I'm not BG . And you would be wasting your time to think that. We made this video just to show and answer a lot of questions people have. Got some more videos to come .
@@jefflebowski4182 I very much appreciate this video. Just based off maps I always assumed BG left through the cemetery, but this solidified that for me. Of course it could still be wrong, but the fact that one could easily get from the crime scene to the cemetery in under 5 minutes, without being seen is helpful to ppl not from around there 😊 You stopped a few times to pan around and show the terrain, I imagine had you not, and just trucked straight in, 4 minutes is very possible.
@@jefflebowski4182 I have always felt the cemetery played a part, Now I see how easy that could have been
@@jefflebowski4182 are you the one video taping this ?
@@jefflebowski4182 thanks Jeff...great video
Easy peasy walk!.(Even a big man (who huffs and puffs a little/ sorry Randy Gravitt), but he has also shown these routes on his channel...theory 1) I'm starting to think that BG may have been FSG's brother DAN, who rode a bike, left it near/at cemetery, went something like this route shown...came up from south side of the bridge when girls were already nearly all the way across....went past Libby and then past Abby (who was further towards the south side than when her photo was taken by Libby)...He passed Abby, but then turned back on them. In both the ISP1 photo and the video you can see where its been blocked out slightly on BG's right side momentarily (in video) and a sleeve/arm in the still photo...This is Abby's arm (I believe, as he turns to come back on them)The both were very close to the south end of the bridge. The nail? sticking up (identified by GH & AG) shows positioning. He could have then, as a person responsible for the bridge and park areas and local committees, told them not to go back across the bridge, but to "go down the hill". At the same time FSG could be in position on the northern side of the bridge where Derrick saw him, as did Cheyenne and Cheryl. I don't believe that the "dog lady" actually went to the south end of the trail with her dogs, but she reported seeing young(relative to her age) girls on the bridge....viewed from her own property. LE have blocked out Abbys arm/sleeve on the video, but if you look at the ISP1 still photo you can see it. McCains know that area like the back of their hands. Lots of money was given by different organisations for that bridge/and a whole new touristy appeal for Delphi...McCains are deeply involved in generational "ownership" of being "Delphians"? (and the importance of history.... where is all that money and why has it taken so long for anything to start with bridge repairs????. Motive??? Money shenanigans from local officials? Corruption? The girls witnessing something they shouldn't? "Kiddie fiddling" (or is that an "Australianism") Who knows..What was FSG doing there that day? How did he get there? Did he drive? If so, what sort of car and where did he park it? What time did he arrive and leave? What was he doing before Derrick saw him?And after? Where was DM on that day? (alibi?).Theory 1. Theory 2 = MH in BB's car at CPS building Hmmm Theories 3, 4 and 5 to follow.
Yes! I like your way of thinking! This theroy is very close to my theroy.
Is this Harvey?
Lol, no not Harvey
Carol carol... Yep! I have had this theory for a long time. Everything you just said. Those brothers had walkie talkies as well. One of em was found in or near Crime scene (per Bobby Camworth).
Tbh this is the only case thats sooo confusing to me no matter how many theories i read or vids i watch i just dont get it. Can you tell more about FSG and why you think theyre suspicious?
what i have gathered both mcains was on the trails but in different areas, why would 2 brothers be in the same place apart ? theory 2 ? i dont know who is MH or BB.
Do you have a you tube channel under a different name ?
This guy has no page he blocked it. Report this to the law. My phone want let me. Something going on
I ran across this just now. Is anyone going to talk in it at all. . I know the killer had to know that area very well to take those precious girls down he hill and murder them😪😪😪😪
So tragic And he thinks he got away with this horrific killings.
Well, he has. So far.
Weird.
I don’t buy that this killer crosses the creek. No way would a murderer try to do that. I think he was using the bridge itself for concealment
Yep. Hidden in plain sight.
Wasn’t well liked, but called himself ‘ the mayor of Delphi’
( quoted from Sloan Bella, you tube psychic)
@@teresadragstream8648 new information makes me think the murderer might be dead. Ron Logan information comming out has me scratching my head
@@blakehague7296 There is a lot of speculation around him since it was found out that he lied to LE about where he was that day. I swear to God it was him. I just have this aching, undying nagging feeling that it's him.
@@nicolekear3911 it’s understandable and you might be right. Gut instinct can be our best clue. But it just doesn’t make him guilty. Theirs more about the klines I think.
@@teresadragstream8648 right? That guys so guilty!!!!
Who in the right mind would let two little girls go there alone??? Im a grown man and I dont feel comfortable to be alone there with no weapons!
So whoever can pinpoint the exact location is either an investigator or a suspect, smart! I'm going to guess and say 5:39.
Creepy
This place is eerie as hell. Indiana creeps me out. All these videos are spooky. No foliage, everything looks cold & unfriendly. All set.
Yes it’s very eerie!
Do you have an issue walking? Sounds as if one leg is hampered and is somewhat difficult to walk with. 🤔
Like bridge guy, weak on the left knee. Or every
Other factory working country guy after 30 years on cement factory floor.
Hey Shane 😉
yeah watching this i felt alcohol, dizziness over power , i felt sick and i feel his energy if only i lived near there i could sense his energy its very specific feels like a boss type and someone who would say you brought this on yourself type of person
Katie…empath? Most people don’t get us, what we do and how we do it. I felt nauseous and that ground has a lot to say.
@@Stella-fl2lj exactly .
@@Stella-fl2lj same thing happened to me over in Adelaide the sick feeling i got under concrete . was horrible.
@ katie Schwartz
Ricky was a known Drinker & a team leader at Walmart’s & or CVS. Good job Katie, U nailed it!!👊😉
Wow this aged well!!!
Seeing this totally disgusting me and it makes me sad 😿
that dude is probably BG himself
Kind of strange how random his name for his channel is on top of that being a newer profile with just this video
You can’t rule anything out
Yeah never talks, but doesn’t mean nothing. There’s a handful of people I’ve seen videos of that manon bridge (or whatever it’s spelled) before the girls were killed...like video from 2016 of the bridge the girls were on.
I wouldn't doubt it. Did you report this.
His shadow reflection on the ground at 5:13 looks like BG!!! SPOOKY !!!
Excellent video like watching real life Blair witch project. Watching this while I’m in the woods camping….
Dude needs a carry on cpap machine pronto.
good talking to you tnt
Ditto . I tried to keep up
DAAAAAAMN. There is a legit Cemetery RIGHT THERE! Every Ocultists wet ritual dream.
This is the darkest Timeline of all the Timelines.
Awful strange
W’s are overrated
Nice try
There is no chance that bridge/limp/fat guy could walk down from bridge and then walk half mile to kill two girls. This was work of someone younger.
still think its ron logan
Um no lol! Ron went to jail right after the murders. They have his DNA. If it was him, or any of the other freaks that were suspected and arrested for something else, they would have been char6 WAAAAAYYYY before now. Ron is not at all a suspect.
ron logans alibi was proven to be true . He drove elsewhere and drank alcohol that's why he was arrested for breaking probation. He was not allowed to drink nor drive.
@@lollipop6311 according to the FBI warrant your statement is FALSE and the alibi was self admittedly lying. Time always tells.
@@TRUTH-BOMB132 beg your pardon but but my statement is absolutely true. I been following this case from day 1 (a little over 5 years) how long have you ?
Me too, I really fckn do because it was on his property. His phone put him at the bridge around the time of the murders and he lied about where he was and asked a relative to tell LE that he was somewhere else. Why would you need someone to do that if you weren't doing something fucking shady?
Straight to where the bodies where discovered in the water
bodies was not discovered in the water, they were about 50 feet from the water
@@lollipop6311 wrong! Def in the water and not what LE has said. You should take a look at the chopper footage and listen to the chopper audio along with the scanner audio
@@Alma2525 an audio says clothing was found in the water and someone said the girls was in the water but was proven wrong.trust me I have listened and seen the footage
@@lollipop6311 who said it was proven wrong ? And that's fine if you believe that... but I don't :) most def in the water
@@lollipop6311looks like you were wrong :) and guess what ? There's more factual info that I'm aware of that will also be proven right :)
To think one little alcoholic man could do this to two young girls out for a fun hike is horrifying. I still think his wife must have recognized him as bridge guy. Maybe the shock was too much for her to handle.
Richard Allen probably walked the same path
Honor and Respect
Is it possible that the murderers are politically motivated.
Is it possible that the murders in Evansdale Iowa are connected to the murders in Delphi Indiana.
Is it possible that the killer is a railroad worker.
Is it possible that the killer is a Railfan Foamer.
Is it possible that the killer is a TH-cam Creator, filming and editing and uploading programs about railways.
Is the greatest clue in the two second video.
Is the greatest clue that the man is extremely comfortable on the deck of the bridge, and moves across the bridge like Fred Astaire.
Out of five hundred men, how many would be as graceful as Fred Astaire on the deck of that bridge.
What would make that man so comfortable.
Does he work on railroads.
Has he worked for railroads since 2003.
Is he angry that towns are tearing up abadoned railroads to create pathways for walking, jogging, and cycling
Is is online handle a Railworkers Slang name for a rail worker.
Is his name online Car Knocker, or UPCARKNOCKER.
@Grey Hues Affections• Copy and Paste I see. You ought to have it copyrighted as a poem or lyrics.
Hey Shane 😉
Creepy