I have a Badboy 4025 and I have over 250hrs. I cleared my 30 acre farm using it with the Badboy brush hog and grapple. It hasn’t let me down. You are correct about dealerships. My dealer is great about answering questions.
how thick was the brush? Did you clear any trees? I got some saplings and some smaller trees I want to clear out on my property. Unsure if I should get a 4025 or the 4035.
Another plus of buying the BadBoy is they have a tractor parts plant in Batesville AR. They also take care of warranty work better than TYM because bad boy is standing behind the product.
I have said it before and I will say it again....buy the dealer. Do your research. Find a dealer that will truly support you and your tractor. They sell the tractor you really want.
This just might be one of your best comparison videos you have done. Quick clear and full of information. I'll probably never buy a tractor but I appreciate your clear explanation of each one. Thanks
Hey Brock, I've had my Badboy 4035 for just over a year with over 100 hrs. It's been a great little tractor thus far. I've done several reviews of my Badboy 4035. Thanks for covering the Badboy. At the time South Florida it was best bang for buck.
Thanks for going over the tractor, a lot cheaper than what I paid for my Ventrac which I love and will always keep. But I may be in the market for one of these cab tractors, nothing like eliminating the chance of getting stung by yellow jackets!
Great video, Brock. I just picked up a 2025 TYM T224 last week, and what a great little tractor and cuts grassawesome. There is lots of power, and I believe it's the best sub compact tractor out I will be starting videos on it next week no one iss showing what it is made off and I plan on changing that 😀
I have a BB 4035 without the cab that I bought before TYM bought Kukje . 160 hours and going good. Big part of that choice was dealer location. Bad Boy dealer less than half the distance of the closest TYM dealer. i wish there were the better things like Grill Guard and skid plates to protect the underside especially as there are things like wires and hydraulic lines under there that are more exposed than I like. Check with your Badboy dealers though, I know of a couple that do not have tractor mechanics, not a good thing.
Thanks for the video Brock. I am actually seriously considering going from an open station TYM T474 to a TYM cab tractor for mainly the A/C. I am no longer heat tolerant after having a mild heat stroke back in 2005. It gets worse every year. I have three open station tractors including a John Deere 5103, IH B414D and my beloved T474. My work usually involves working in tight woods 80% of the time and I have always feared breaking the glass in a cab tractor. But I think it is time to start talking about a cab tractor so I can enjoy having air conditioning here in southwest Arkansas from March to September. Thanks again for the detailed information in today's video my friend.
Guy in paris texas has the new Bad boy 5045 and 5055. Awesome looking tractors with more weight lift capacity and seat. I believe you can get the 50 series with shuttle shift transmission.
The thing you'd want to worry about with these off-brand tractors is dealer support, and parts availability and how you are going to get both when you live in an area that those machines aren't sold in. Sure the savings up front might sound great, but when you need parts and service and have to travel hundreds of miles for both, it might not end up saving you anything...if you have to order parts due to being far away from the dealer, the cost of doing so, and the downtime might be counter-intuitive....gotta think outside of that dollar figure for the long term...eventually you will need parts, eventually you will need dealer level service/repairs. Doesn't matter what color you buy, that's on you, just think about your decision very well before buying....and dealer network and how far away they are is a huge thing to consider long before you start worrying about how much money you are gonna save up front by buying that off-brand machine.
As a retired Ford New Holland & Kubota dealer, I would strongly suggest anyone who purchases some of these tractors with a small market segment should purchase a parts manual immediately. That way at least you could track down parts nationally if the local dealership should change or drop those brand. Hopefully Bad Boy is using TYM part numbers and not reinventing their own. New Holland was gracious enough to use Montana/LS part numbers and just add MT as a prefix to most of those parts.
My fear of bad boy, If they fold who will pick up the repairs. I have a RK24 and RK had issues with getting filters at one point. The parts guy at the TYM dealer didn't want to help me get filters because we had to cross search part #'s. Now RK just stocks Yanmar filters. BTW my RK has 700hrs on it, it's a tough little tractor.
My Bad Boy dealer I bought a Rogue from this year told me he will have the Bad Boy 4055 cab version information soon. It will be there version of the TYM T574 that I’ve been looking at.
There is a place in Alabama thats got the Bad Boy 3026h with a loader in a package with a rotary cutter and a 83x20 Native trailer for 21999. I'm seriously thinking about getting it. Been looking for a few months on getting a tractor and I keep coming back to Bad Boy.
I love my bad boy zero turn and want the tractor but the nearest dealer is 60 miles away. Not sure if that’s a bad thing or not. I have a trailer and can load it up and am only a hobby farm so not making my full time income from it so I feel like I could drop off the tractor for a week or two for any work and it not hurt me. I also have access to a few other family tractors if really needed.
Beyond just rebranding, the Bad Boy tractors are a gamble because they are legacy Branson/Kukje models. For now TYM is continuing to make the Kukje line in addition to their own models but there is so much model duplication at some point they may cancel the old Kukje designs.
I agree with your overall point, but I think the Branson models are more likely to stay and some of the TYM models get phased out. The old Branson models are the top sellers for TYM
I just acquired a Massy Ferguson 165 with a few issues that I have started addressing. Will be looking to get a loader and possible a removable back hoe to add to it. I have a working Kubota 3650 with loader, but think the loader on the tractor is a required addition to hake it useful. I don't farm any land, just maintain my little 25 acres and process firewood for a hobby and "chainsaw Therapy" Both tractors are diesel powered and pre DEF. The Kubota will lift much more than the tractor will hold the ground with the rear tires so I'm thinking the hoe on the back of the 165 might be the best addition to the tractor for getting firewood logs and processing off the ground.
Hello, I’m a retired Ford and Bush Hog loader dealer. In the past, we installed brand new Bush Hog brand loaders on the older Massey’s (my dad was a Massey dealer in the ‘60s & ‘70s) and you will find the loader works exceedingly slow because those tractors did not have enough hydraulic pump volume. Find one with a loader and operate before you consider the same. And ,of course, the backhoe would work equally slow. I would consider an older commercial industrial tractor loader backhoe first, like a Case 580, Deere 310, Cat 416, etc. Good luck to you.
@@johnhelbig7110 Thanks for the advice! I will see if I can find one around t that I can try out. I'm not trying to get into the earth moving business, as much as just moving and processing firewood, but it would eventually get used to dig I'm sure.
Just got my badboy 4025 last week. Does badboy build the front end loader on the 4025 as well?I think its the same loader actually . I got the bad boy because i got a better deal than the tym and i thought it looked better
It’d help if the parts numbers were the same between the different companies. I have a kioti but the closest dealer is 1/2 hour away. I have a Bobcat dealer 10 minutes away but they can’t just cross reference part numbers.
I'd stay away from new holland we have a workmaster 33. With around 600hr and a cracked block cause of the way the loader mounts to the tractor. I'm not sure how the ls mounts the loader.
"There's nothing wrong with buying a rebranded tractor". I have to disagree. As a Kioti dealer, we had a TON of customers buying parts from us for their Bobcats made before 2012 (the last time Bobcat sold rebranded Kiotis). Why? Because Bobcat wasn't selling many tractors post-market crash and decided to drop the line altogether, basically stopping after-sales support overnight. It happened once, and can happen again!
I said there’s nothing wrong with it as in everyone gets to make their own choices. I also pointed out that I wouldn’t do it. They’re more expensive for less capacity and less long-term confidence in parts availability. I think if you really listen, I made the case in this video to not buy a bobcat
My concern with buying a re-branded tractor is if the two companies stop doing business for whatever reason, parts for your tractor may become obsolete and you have a $35,000 yard ornament now
That's not always the case. In this instance, TYM would have to stop making their version. As long as TYM is making their version, there will be parts for the bad boy. Same with NH and LS.
I agree. In the past re-brands have been marketed as basically the same tractor. Some little parts here and there have been different. That's why I haven't pulled the trigger on anything but a name brand. Sometimes the deals work out though, people just need to make sure to do research and find out if it is basically the same or it is the same.
Exactly why I bought a Deere. Yeah, it’s expensive but I’ll never worry about parts support - not to mention it’s also a great performing tractor and has well designed features.
Bobcat is a case in point. They had tractors years ago, and they dropped the product line. Hopefully, they learned their lesson and they will be there in the long run on tractors like their skid steers.
@@jimmcknight3021 they currently have tractors but have contracted Kioti to make them for bobcat. However bobcat company was bought by Doosan Then Doosan was bought by Hundai. Only time will tell
You said they are not ”known as a premium Mower” In the last year, I’ve gotten millions of views on mower review videos. What that means is I’ve gotten thousands and thousands of comments where people tell me what they “know” about mowers. Bad boy has a huge following and people tell me all the time how great they are
@@RockhillfarmYT millions of views and comments don’t equate to quality or premium. You can buy Bad Boy at Tractor Supply and other big box stores. You also have to look on who is commenting, is it homeowners or guys who mow for a living. I mow part time and cut roughly 43 acres of grass a week. I used to work for a John Deere and Exmark dealer and personally run mostly Ferris. I would not consider Bad Boy to be on the same level as your Exmarks, Scags, Ferris, Deere. There’s a reason you don’t see them regularly on landscape trailers. They are geared towards homeowners. Go to the GIE expo and ask any professional there, I bet you will get similar responses.
@briansmith8405 I go to G.I.E every year even though it’s not called that anymore. I think they changed the name two years ago to the Equip Expo. I’m not trying to make the case that bad boy makes the best mowers. I don’t even believe that This is a silly conversation. What I meant by my comment in the video is that bad boy mowers are really popular. Biggest surprise to me is how many people love Scagg when they seem like a little bit of a cheaper option to me. Tells me I need to try one.
I have a Badboy 4025 and I have over 250hrs. I cleared my 30 acre farm using it with the Badboy brush hog and grapple. It hasn’t let me down. You are correct about dealerships. My dealer is great about answering questions.
how thick was the brush? Did you clear any trees? I got some saplings and some smaller trees I want to clear out on my property. Unsure if I should get a 4025 or the 4035.
Another plus of buying the BadBoy is they have a tractor parts plant in Batesville AR. They also take care of warranty work better than TYM because bad boy is standing behind the product.
I have said it before and I will say it again....buy the dealer. Do your research. Find a dealer that will truly support you and your tractor. They sell the tractor you really want.
This just might be one of your best comparison videos you have done. Quick clear and full of information. I'll probably never buy a tractor but I appreciate your clear explanation of each one. Thanks
Totally agree on the comparison!
Hey Brock, I've had my Badboy 4035 for just over a year with over 100 hrs. It's been a great little tractor thus far. I've done several reviews of my Badboy 4035. Thanks for covering the Badboy. At the time South Florida it was best bang for buck.
Thanks for going over the tractor, a lot cheaper than what I paid for my Ventrac which I love and will always keep. But I may be in the market for one of these cab tractors, nothing like eliminating the chance of getting stung by yellow jackets!
Great video, Brock. I just picked up a 2025 TYM T224 last week, and what a great little tractor and cuts grassawesome. There is lots of power, and I believe it's the best sub compact tractor out I will be starting videos on it next week no one iss showing what it is made off and I plan on changing that 😀
Thanks for explaining the difference between the two and the other brands as well.
Excellent comparison Brock. I personally wouldn’t prefer a rebranded tractor. I decided to go with a Kubota. Enjoyable video Brock Thanks.
I have a BB 4035 without the cab that I bought before TYM bought Kukje . 160 hours and going good. Big part of that choice was dealer location. Bad Boy dealer less than half the distance of the closest TYM dealer. i wish there were the better things like Grill Guard and skid plates to protect the underside especially as there are things like wires and hydraulic lines under there that are more exposed than I like.
Check with your Badboy dealers though, I know of a couple that do not have tractor mechanics, not a good thing.
Thanks for the video Brock. I am actually seriously considering going from an open station TYM T474 to a TYM cab tractor for mainly the A/C. I am no longer heat tolerant after having a mild heat stroke back in 2005. It gets worse every year. I have three open station tractors including a John Deere 5103, IH B414D and my beloved T474. My work usually involves working in tight woods 80% of the time and I have always feared breaking the glass in a cab tractor. But I think it is time to start talking about a cab tractor so I can enjoy having air conditioning here in southwest Arkansas from March to September. Thanks again for the detailed information in today's video my friend.
I like the colour’s of the bad boy 🚜’s Think I’m gonna paint 🎨 my T25 wheels 🛞 black too lol
Great vid 👍🏽
Great detail on this topic! Thanks for sharing 💪🏼
I do like the color scheme of the bad boy line
Guy in paris texas has the new Bad boy 5045 and 5055. Awesome looking tractors with more weight lift capacity and seat. I believe you can get the 50 series with shuttle shift transmission.
The thing you'd want to worry about with these off-brand tractors is dealer support, and parts availability and how you are going to get both when you live in an area that those machines aren't sold in. Sure the savings up front might sound great, but when you need parts and service and have to travel hundreds of miles for both, it might not end up saving you anything...if you have to order parts due to being far away from the dealer, the cost of doing so, and the downtime might be counter-intuitive....gotta think outside of that dollar figure for the long term...eventually you will need parts, eventually you will need dealer level service/repairs.
Doesn't matter what color you buy, that's on you, just think about your decision very well before buying....and dealer network and how far away they are is a huge thing to consider long before you start worrying about how much money you are gonna save up front by buying that off-brand machine.
Great job Brock! Thanks
As a retired Ford New Holland & Kubota dealer, I would strongly suggest anyone who purchases some of these tractors with a small market segment should purchase a parts manual immediately. That way at least you could track down parts nationally if the local dealership should change or drop those brand. Hopefully Bad Boy is using TYM part numbers and not reinventing their own. New Holland was gracious enough to use Montana/LS part numbers and just add MT as a prefix to most of those parts.
Excellent info and presentation as always!
Really enjoyed the video Brock, thanks! 👍🏻
My fear of bad boy, If they fold who will pick up the repairs. I have a RK24 and RK had issues with getting filters at one point. The parts guy at the TYM dealer didn't want to help me get filters because we had to cross search part #'s. Now RK just stocks Yanmar filters. BTW my RK has 700hrs on it, it's a tough little tractor.
My Bad Boy dealer I bought a Rogue from this year told me he will have the Bad Boy 4055 cab version information soon. It will be there version of the TYM T574 that I’ve been looking at.
There is a place in Alabama thats got the Bad Boy 3026h with a loader in a package with a rotary cutter and a 83x20 Native trailer for 21999. I'm seriously thinking about getting it. Been looking for a few months on getting a tractor and I keep coming back to Bad Boy.
Good job Brock!
Good stuff Brock 👀👀
good vid Brock ty
thanks
I love my bad boy zero turn and want the tractor but the nearest dealer is 60 miles away. Not sure if that’s a bad thing or not. I have a trailer and can load it up and am only a hobby farm so not making my full time income from it so I feel like I could drop off the tractor for a week or two for any work and it not hurt me. I also have access to a few other family tractors if really needed.
Beyond just rebranding, the Bad Boy tractors are a gamble because they are legacy Branson/Kukje models. For now TYM is continuing to make the Kukje line in addition to their own models but there is so much model duplication at some point they may cancel the old Kukje designs.
I agree with your overall point, but I think the Branson models are more likely to stay and some of the TYM models get phased out.
The old Branson models are the top sellers for TYM
I just acquired a Massy Ferguson 165 with a few issues that I have started addressing. Will be looking to get a loader and possible a removable back hoe to add to it. I have a working Kubota 3650 with loader, but think the loader on the tractor is a required addition to hake it useful. I don't farm any land, just maintain my little 25 acres and process firewood for a hobby and "chainsaw Therapy" Both tractors are diesel powered and pre DEF. The Kubota will lift much more than the tractor will hold the ground with the rear tires so I'm thinking the hoe on the back of the 165 might be the best addition to the tractor for getting firewood logs and processing off the ground.
Hello, I’m a retired Ford and Bush Hog loader dealer. In the past, we installed brand new Bush Hog brand loaders on the older Massey’s (my dad was a Massey dealer in the ‘60s & ‘70s) and you will find the loader works exceedingly slow because those tractors did not have enough hydraulic pump volume. Find one with a loader and operate before you consider the same. And ,of course, the backhoe would work equally slow. I would consider an older commercial industrial tractor loader backhoe first, like a Case 580, Deere 310, Cat 416, etc. Good luck to you.
@@johnhelbig7110massey had perkins engine's and were dam fine but their hydraulic system was a fuckin pos
@@johnhelbig7110 Thanks for the advice! I will see if I can find one around t that I can try out. I'm not trying to get into the earth moving business, as much as just moving and processing firewood, but it would eventually get used to dig I'm sure.
The first time I saw you in a TYM was on arms family homestead.
That was a fun trip
Yea he don't show the flail mower enough for me, but it's his channel and has totaled in o account his overall subscribers.
Good video and since I am not into facebook and am just into youtube how about testing the Revo6 blade replacement
Just got my badboy 4025 last week. Does badboy build the front end loader on the 4025 as well?I think its the same loader actually . I got the bad boy because i got a better deal than the tym and i thought it looked better
What engine does it have in it? What do you like about it?
It’d help if the parts numbers were the same between the different companies. I have a kioti but the closest dealer is 1/2 hour away. I have a Bobcat dealer 10 minutes away but they can’t just cross reference part numbers.
And those two look exactly like my mahindra 2638. If you aren't going with a Kubota or JD, you are getting a private label tractor these days.
I'd stay away from new holland we have a workmaster 33. With around 600hr and a cracked block cause of the way the loader mounts to the tractor. I'm not sure how the ls mounts the loader.
"There's nothing wrong with buying a rebranded tractor". I have to disagree. As a Kioti dealer, we had a TON of customers buying parts from us for their Bobcats made before 2012 (the last time Bobcat sold rebranded Kiotis). Why? Because Bobcat wasn't selling many tractors post-market crash and decided to drop the line altogether, basically stopping after-sales support overnight. It happened once, and can happen again!
I said there’s nothing wrong with it as in everyone gets to make their own choices.
I also pointed out that I wouldn’t do it. They’re more expensive for less capacity and less long-term confidence in parts availability.
I think if you really listen, I made the case in this video to not buy a bobcat
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My concern with buying a re-branded tractor is if the two companies stop doing business for whatever reason, parts for your tractor may become obsolete and you have a $35,000 yard ornament now
That's not always the case. In this instance, TYM would have to stop making their version. As long as TYM is making their version, there will be parts for the bad boy. Same with NH and LS.
I agree. In the past re-brands have been marketed as basically the same tractor. Some little parts here and there have been different. That's why I haven't pulled the trigger on anything but a name brand. Sometimes the deals work out though, people just need to make sure to do research and find out if it is basically the same or it is the same.
Exactly why I bought a Deere. Yeah, it’s expensive but I’ll never worry about parts support - not to mention it’s also a great performing tractor and has well designed features.
Bobcat is a case in point. They had tractors years ago, and they dropped the product line. Hopefully, they learned their lesson and they will be there in the long run on tractors like their skid steers.
@@jimmcknight3021 they currently have tractors but have contracted Kioti to make them for bobcat. However bobcat company was bought by Doosan Then Doosan was bought by Hundai. Only time will tell
Badboy is definitely not known as a premium mower.
Oh boo hoo, go ahead and tell everyone what a "professional" you are and that brand XYZ is better and everything else is junk.
@@gravelytodd strike a nerve there Todd? Anyone who is in the industry knows this but apparently you and your Gravely don’t. 😂
You said they are not ”known as a premium Mower”
In the last year, I’ve gotten millions of views on mower review videos. What that means is I’ve gotten thousands and thousands of comments where people tell me what they “know” about mowers.
Bad boy has a huge following and people tell me all the time how great they are
@@RockhillfarmYT millions of views and comments don’t equate to quality or premium. You can buy Bad Boy at Tractor Supply and other big box stores. You also have to look on who is commenting, is it homeowners or guys who mow for a living. I mow part time and cut roughly 43 acres of grass a week. I used to work for a John Deere and Exmark dealer and personally run mostly Ferris. I would not consider Bad Boy to be on the same level as your Exmarks, Scags, Ferris, Deere. There’s a reason you don’t see them regularly on landscape trailers. They are geared towards homeowners. Go to the GIE expo and ask any professional there, I bet you will get similar responses.
@briansmith8405 I go to G.I.E every year even though it’s not called that anymore. I think they changed the name two years ago to the Equip Expo.
I’m not trying to make the case that bad boy makes the best mowers. I don’t even believe that
This is a silly conversation. What I meant by my comment in the video is that bad boy mowers are really popular.
Biggest surprise to me is how many people love Scagg when they seem like a little bit of a cheaper option to me. Tells me I need to try one.
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Well, I have a TYM and I’ve got a John Deere.
Both are late model tractors and I think the TYM is better in most ways.
You look like Piotr Adamczyk