I'm sorry but I don't understand your comment. If I can parse through the typos and grammatical hiccups, I think you're saying that Poussin stated his opinion. I don't believe I said he didn't or shouldn't. My response speaks for itself.
They were both great players and both did so much to make the sport so popular in the 70s. Wonderful role models. I would love to see Evonne in the Royal Box in 2020 to celebrate her 40th anniversary
They never ask her, and she should have definitely been there this year to celebrate her 50th from 71 not to mention to see Ash Barty a fellow First Nations indigenous Australian
I used to love watching Goolagong/Cawley play. For me, she fitted into that group of people (like Mandlikova) who was tremendously gifted, with almost every shot in the book, but who was, "streaky." On her day, almost unplayable. Of course, Navratilova had all of that too, but also a steely work ethic, which probably explains her greater success. Still, I believe that Cawley *did* win Wimbledon, for the 2nd time, the following year.
Wild Heart Yes, you’re right, she did. And seven grand slams in total, so not too shabby! (I know not as many players went to Australia to play the Open in the 1970s, but it’s still an achievement.)
I agree she was breathtaking and the cynosure of interest wherever and whenever she played but none of the others (apart from Court who retired in 75-76 had kids at that stage or the injuries that come with it...when Evonne wanted to win she beat them all (Wimbledon 1980) and many other big titles..MN had a huge team getting her to reach her potential and that was great for her and Chris was from a tennis coaching father and they are BOTH incredible..but I pretty much think that tennis was all the better for throwing this Australian rags to riches story into the mix....
whats your point? MN came to the fore in the 80s long after Evonne basically retired. She also never had two kids )which forced her to miss 77 and 81.Hana never won Wimbledon and Evonne has two singles (against Court and Evert no less) and two World ending VS championshipsTitles in 74 and 76...no comparison to Mandlikova who never achieved any of that actually also Evonne never had the loads of people (Coaches etc) that MN had to reach her deserved greatness. As for a steely resolve I think Wimbledon 80 cancelled out your argument m8
Yes Evonne Cawleybeat Chis Evert Lloyd in 1980. Great time Great tennis players they were so graceful and very glamourous. I can remember when my friends played tennis we all wanted to be Chris Evert or Evonne Cawley. Happy days.
I wish they had kept all English umpires nowadays.....the other thing I miss are players like this....and commentators like this......I loved Ann jones comment about Evonne possessing ‘nasty little chips’ hehehe
Between 1977-1980 Chris played two great matches at Wimbledon. 1- def king in 77 , 2- Navratilova defeated in 80 SF. In the final matches of each year at Wimbledon Chris played downright Oort when compared to rest of the year concerning her quality of play.
Has anyone else noticed that the scoreboard has both of their names wrong? Mrs. J.M Lloyd & Mrs. R.M. Cawley. Both were using both of their names Evert-Lloyd & Goolagong-Cawley. They made the same errors with "Mrs. S. Williams," which is wrong because she is not married to Mr. Williams.
In addition to ignoring which last name they went by at the time, they only stopped their official practice of referring to married female champions by their husband's first names in 2022 😬 - sometimes tradition is cute, sometimes it's embarrassing
@@maxipaz5597 I remember that Wade v Goolagong (as I still call her) quarter-final: Virginia Wade played superbly in that match - "I don't know how you can play that well but still lose", she said afterwards - but Evonne Goolagong played even better. When she was flowing Evonne was a superb, graceful all-court player with so much variety in her game - the kind of variety that you just don't see now.
marty dav yes agreed, wow virginia played well that day? I think the fact Evonne beat avert 13 times means she can be considered with the greats......when she played Evert it was mood versus method
@@martydav9475 i agree an incredibly beautiful tennis player, also in the looks department, a totally natural player and person, does a lot for her native Australian people nowadays and much more loved I beleive in Australia than Margaret Court (incidentally the only other Australian to Win the ladies singles at Wimbledon
Brad, thanks for the memories, any chance you know if we can get WIMBLEDON 1980 , between these two great champions with Evonne winning that year. Mark 🇦🇺
Wimbledon had a relaxed attitude to colours until the late 1990s when too many players started wearing shirts with a lot of colour on them, instead of just a bit.
Pretty poor tennis, you'd have to say. Watching the 1988 Evert blow Martina out at the Aus Open 9 years later is like a different universe! And, yes, I do know the racquet tech had two quantum leaps in that time....But both these women were real models of decorum and drop dead gorgeous
This is a Wimbledon SF and Chris is playing like she’s afraid to sweat. She played the final that way too. Also the final of the Open. She’s fitter but not bending at knee or putting her body into the shot . She hit penetrating shots in 1980 because she was hungrier.
Evonne was the one player Chris has always said ( and said after her win at clay courts final 1979) that she had a hard time having the killer instinct with because she liked her so much and was so much fun to watch due to her graceful way of moving and hitting the balk . I think she was deeply disappointed losing the W 80 final to her because she had finally beaten Martina in SF after losing the 78&79 w finals to her . Chris has just beaten Evonne at Chichester final the tournament before 80 W final . I think she took Evonne too lightly and Evonne came out playing the match if her life winning the first 13 points of the match . Chris deserves to lose with an attitude like that and cane almost over prepared fir the 81 W final while the rest of the field played horribly . Martina was off to an inspired Hana while Evert had shriver ( who had strained her shoulder beating Austin ) two of the years Chris won W , it kinda was handed to her 74, 81 . The 76 W final she worked hard for beating Martina 6-4 in third in SF and Evonne 8-6 in the third . Chris s performance against Wade and Martina in 78 were abysmal . Evonne was so good in 80 she beat Austin in SF then outplayed Chris in final - her last best tournament t if her career . Evonne won when not expected ( w71 and 80 )
It was this loss in Wimbledon 80 that made Chris more determined to win every match in beginning of 80 - winning Wimbledon 81. Both women hinted that they both had their period in this match
Evert did beat Goolagong at Chichester -- but BARELY -- in the final 6-3 6-7 7-5. It was a horrendous wind-driven match. So far I've not come across one person on YT who has seen or own a recording of that match
To this day not sure why Goolagong skipped the U.S. Open in 80. She was in good form having just won Wimbledon altho she lost easily to Andrea Jaeger in SF at U.S. Clay Court Championship who then lost to Evert in the final
Great to see this again....I was on the Centre Court that afternoon and watched both semis. This was an odd match no doubt about it...any have the FIRST SET of the final played between these two great players a year later at Wimbledon...Chris said afterwards that no one could have kept up with Evonne in the first set.....would be great to see it.
@@robertknibbs497 thats great to hear Chris said that as a lot of her followers on TH-cam make all sorts of excuses for 1980, the main one being she had a mental letdown after beating MN...not a real argument as she should have been on an ALL TIME HIGH after beating Martina.....and Evonne could just as easily have had a letdown after her big upset in the other Semi finals against Tracy Austin...You never hear that case from a few Evert fanatics who troll her every match on TH-cam, often hating on the other players who she played against and sometimes lost to
Most of these DVDs have at least one segment that won't load or process successfully - hence the gaps. It takes a bit of doing, but you can find sources of old matches online for purchase.
@@TheSingingMystic87 yup. I guess if you think about it, it's very sexist that women often still take their husbands surname when they marry. I guess we're only half way out of that sexism
@Oliver McCall stop and think. Firstly It's announcing a woman's sexual availability status. If a woman is "Mrs" is basically an announcement to men to say "I'm not sexually available". Secondly, it's implying that a woman is a man's property. Men don't have to change their title or name when they get married. Why is that?
Wow - they were still referring to married female players with their husbands' initials...I was wondering where the 'R' was in R. Cawley. Not exactly the vanguard of social progress, Wimbledon...
@@Ruda-n4h I don't see Roger on the tennis court, do you? And the "opposite" of this situation would not be Evonne just using her own initial, which is common sense, it would be referring to Roger Cawley as Mr E. Goolagong. No-one would call that progress.
@@jakesingerman9257 yeah, I'm commenting on a 45 year old video, why would I be focusing on current affairs? In 1979 Wimbledon was the only grand slam referring to married female players by their husband's first names*, an anachronism even by their standards. I find that noteworthy, if you don't then feel free to move on. *They only officially stopped doing it in 2022, does that qualify as one of today's dumpster fires?
In her autobiography, HOME, Evonne notes what an awful match this was. She says that she and Chris were both suffering (tmi ahead!) "the worst day of (their) periods."
nubndigger Chris in her book alludes to the same thing jokingly saying “ having your period “ may be psychological but when you stumble on side of the bed from it “ may be it’s not. British papers said the lackluster play on both ladies part was perhaps the result of both marrying Englishmen.
It's something that isn't really discussed much in sport, possibly because it affects different women in different ways. Still though, I think it explains some of the most surprising results in tennis. I believe Steffi Graf said she was suffering with terrible menstrual cramp during her match against Sanchez Vicario at the 89 french open
The fifth game with Evert serving was perhaps the. Worst game she ever played - she totally lost concentration like she didn’t care - I’ve seen this only happen at Wimbledon for some reason . She has to be 100 percent engaged to win on grass. Happened in 72 semi, 75 semi. 77 semi. 79 final for sure. And first set of 80 final. So unexplainable - didn’t happen at other venues.
Martin Pascoe yes , that’s exactly what I’m saying you idiot. I never said that but Evert was a legend and when she lost in generalit had more to do with everts play than theirs .
Martin Pascoe your such a piece of shit you troll. Name another venue where Chris had trouble as at Wimbledon ? at the US Open from 1975-1985 she won 6 times and never let herself down. The times she lost she was beaten by a player that outplayed her. Same at the French and Australian. What I am saying is that there is something about grass that distracts her , she is not her usual self . If this happened at other venues then I wouldn’t point it out. I don’t think her opponents play making her play poorly for her is the sole answer.. Grass was never her best surface. I think it’s the surface more than any other factor. Your the one who decided to insult me and be ugly putting words in my comments that were not there. Speaks to the creep that you are. Sorry Chris’s record pisses you off. Being the best brings everyone to the table doesn’t it.I don’t have to puff up Chris’s stats , they speak for themselves.
What? These are two supreme athletes of their time not trying to out model each other for a Vogue cover. What kind of woman are you to bring down the role of a female athlete to who is the more attractive? Nobody graced a tennis court with better rhythm and timing than Evonne but this was matched by Chris’s precision and consistency. This may not have been their best match but it is illustrative of the way tennis was progressing to a more baseline play than the serve and volley of the grasscourt players. I can’t believe a woman has reduced a tennis mach to who wore the bloody lipstick. You should be ashamed.
I only mention looks bc everyone seems to talk about Evert onlyfrin those days as the so called looker ..Evert to me was full of false modesty and still is !!Evonne was the more naturally beautiful in spirt and looks and the much more humble of the 2..Evonne was always the crowd fav her game was like ballet on court! poetry in motion
Both Evonne and Chris were pretty and attractive. Both are quite modest and nice. Both were great players too in their own way. Evonne probably had the more graceful game, but Evert clearly dominated their rivalry.
The data speaks for itself. Evert led the rivalry 26-13. Even if you take out the last 4 matches, it is 22-13 Evert. Evert was quite simply the better player and this is not meant as an insult to Evonne. From what I remember, Evonne herself acknowledged and accepted the fact that Evert was ahead of her. The “metronome” quality of Evert helped against Evonne.
How the game has changed. I doubt if either of these players then could win a 5A high school match now. Notice the brown grass between the net and the service line. Players actually played at the net.
Indy glf if you’ve ever played tennis with a wood racket like have you’d understand that the equipment of today make tennis a completely different game. One had to rely on strategy, placement, mental strength rather than power. You could not hit a winner from behind the baseline if you opponent was on the opposite baseline . Wood rackets did not give you the power to do that unlike today’s
Indy glf----it was chrissie and martina..that changed tennis...and then came along stefi and monica....then martina hingis...then the williams sisters........and because of chrissie and martina N.....tennis is the way it is now.........
@@lenwelch2195 exactly! a wood racket heck even early graphite rackets of the 80's compared to rackets AND strings today is like comparing a wet paper towel and titanium steel!.. i will always believe that tennis players "back then" were quote actually better TENNIS players then today's players, they HAD TO BE because of the technology.. today's players are basically athletes who just happen to play tennis and given the advantage of the weaponry now..
Martin passcode. Maxi Paz: These two troll on evert matches and go after Evert fans. Even if the opponent is not mentioned they gang up on any one who has any thing to say that’s nice about Chris. Hopefully these two after I’ve reported the will stop.
Two beautiful women who play with such charm and grace.
And who would be the most handsome men to play with such force and masculinity?
I'm sorry but I don't understand your comment. If I can parse through the typos and grammatical hiccups, I think you're saying that Poussin stated his opinion. I don't believe I said he didn't or shouldn't. My response speaks for itself.
Love yoir comments
They were both great players and both did so much to make the sport so popular in the 70s. Wonderful role models. I would love to see Evonne in the Royal Box in 2020 to celebrate her 40th anniversary
They never ask her, and she should have definitely been there this year to celebrate her 50th from 71 not to mention to see Ash Barty a fellow First Nations indigenous Australian
Cancel that : Roger Cawley was sick
I used to love watching Goolagong/Cawley play.
For me, she fitted into that group of people (like Mandlikova) who was tremendously gifted, with almost every shot in the book, but who was, "streaky."
On her day, almost unplayable.
Of course, Navratilova had all of that too, but also a steely work ethic, which probably explains her greater success.
Still, I believe that Cawley *did* win Wimbledon, for the 2nd time, the following year.
Wild Heart Yes, you’re right, she did. And seven grand slams in total, so not too shabby! (I know not as many players went to Australia to play the Open in the 1970s, but it’s still an achievement.)
I agree she was breathtaking and the cynosure of interest wherever and whenever she played but none of the others (apart from Court who retired in 75-76 had kids at that stage or the injuries that come with it...when Evonne wanted to win she beat them all (Wimbledon 1980) and many other big titles..MN had a huge team getting her to reach her potential and that was great for her and Chris was from a tennis coaching father and they are BOTH incredible..but I pretty much think that tennis was all the better for throwing this Australian rags to riches story into the mix....
whats your point? MN came to the fore in the 80s long after Evonne basically retired. She also never had two kids )which forced her to miss 77 and 81.Hana never won Wimbledon and Evonne has two singles (against Court and Evert no less) and two World ending VS championshipsTitles in 74 and 76...no comparison to Mandlikova who never achieved any of that actually also Evonne never had the loads of people (Coaches etc) that MN had to reach her deserved greatness. As for a steely resolve I think Wimbledon 80 cancelled out your argument m8
Yes Evonne Cawleybeat Chis Evert Lloyd in 1980. Great time Great tennis players they were so graceful and very glamourous. I can remember when my friends played tennis we all wanted to be Chris Evert or Evonne Cawley. Happy days.
Didn’t play the French for many years and the US Open was changed to clay to suit evert in the mid 70s plus two pregnancies 77and 81
I wish they had kept all English umpires nowadays.....the other thing I miss are players like this....and commentators like this......I loved Ann jones comment about Evonne possessing ‘nasty little chips’ hehehe
amazing this is 40 years old already!!.. shocking when you think about it!...
Ive turned off notifications so I dont have to look at your tiresome obtusive comments anymore
@@maxipaz5597 how dare i or anyone contradict you is that how it works and you want to take your toys and go home. EVERYTHING i have said is truth.
Evert's GS career records are amazing. Players in her side of the draw had little chance of making the SF. Very much like Roger in that regard.
I love that Chris and John Lloyd had basically the same haircut.
Between 1977-1980 Chris played two great matches at Wimbledon. 1- def king in 77 , 2- Navratilova defeated in 80 SF. In the final matches of each year at Wimbledon Chris played downright Oort when compared to rest of the year concerning her quality of play.
Has anyone else noticed that the scoreboard has both of their names wrong? Mrs. J.M Lloyd & Mrs. R.M. Cawley. Both were using both of their names Evert-Lloyd & Goolagong-Cawley. They made the same errors with "Mrs. S. Williams," which is wrong because she is not married to Mr. Williams.
In addition to ignoring which last name they went by at the time, they only stopped their official practice of referring to married female champions by their husband's first names in 2022 😬 - sometimes tradition is cute, sometimes it's embarrassing
Could you post any of Evonne Goolagong’s winning matches especially the 1980 Wimbledon final? Thanks.
I don't have the 1980 Wimbledon F but there are six minutes of good highlights at the site called Daily Motion dot com.
Also the 1979 quarter final Wade V Cawley or 78 semi Navratilova V Cawley or even 1980 3rd round Cawley V Stove or 1980 4th round Cawley V Mandlikova
@@maxipaz5597 I remember that Wade v Goolagong (as I still call her) quarter-final: Virginia Wade played superbly in that match - "I don't know how you can play that well but still lose", she said afterwards - but Evonne Goolagong played even better. When she was flowing Evonne was a superb, graceful all-court player with so much variety in her game - the kind of variety that you just don't see now.
marty dav yes agreed, wow virginia played well that day? I think the fact Evonne beat avert 13 times means she can be considered with the greats......when she played Evert it was mood versus method
@@martydav9475 i agree an incredibly beautiful tennis player, also in the looks department, a totally natural player and person, does a lot for her native Australian people nowadays and much more loved I beleive in Australia than Margaret Court (incidentally the only other Australian to Win the ladies singles at Wimbledon
beauty v beauty
@Illya Kuryakin Sabatini, yes, but not Graf - her nose is too long and her face is too 'Germanic'.
Brad, thanks for the memories, any chance you know if we can get WIMBLEDON 1980 , between these two great champions with Evonne winning that year. Mark 🇦🇺
Mark - I think it is out there if you hunt. I don't begrudge Evonne that title too much but I own very few Evert losses on video.
Look at the Dresses.. more colors than nowadays.
Wimbledon had a relaxed attitude to colours until the late 1990s when too many players started wearing shirts with a lot of colour on them, instead of just a bit.
Chris rocking the Yarnell half of the Shields & Yarnell hairdo. 🔥
Pretty poor tennis, you'd have to say. Watching the 1988 Evert blow Martina out at the Aus Open 9 years later is like a different universe! And, yes, I do know the racquet tech had two quantum leaps in that time....But both these women were real models of decorum and drop dead gorgeous
The main thing that struck me during the first few games, is the constant coughing coming from the audience!
After this dreadful showing fro Evonne it’s incredible she came back a year later to defeat Mrs Lloyd
Love Ann jones comments “ Evonne possesses those nasty little chips’ bahaha
Thanks for posting this...do you have the final? never seen it before.
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Ann Jones : “Evonne possesses those nasty little chips”🍟
I always thought of Chris as regal and Evonne effortlessly charming.
This is a Wimbledon SF and Chris is playing like she’s afraid to sweat. She played the final that way too. Also the final of the Open. She’s fitter but not bending at knee or putting her body into the shot . She hit penetrating shots in 1980 because she was hungrier.
she was beaten badly in the final by MN, Thank god for Martina Navratilova
@@hardsam68 I respect that your a Martina fam
Evonne was the one player Chris has always said ( and said after her win at clay courts final 1979) that she had a hard time having the killer instinct with because she liked her so much and was so much fun to watch due to her graceful way of moving and hitting the balk . I think she was deeply disappointed losing the W 80 final to her because she had finally beaten Martina in SF after losing the 78&79 w finals to her . Chris has just beaten Evonne at Chichester final the tournament before 80 W final . I think she took Evonne too lightly and Evonne came out playing the match if her life winning the first 13 points of the match . Chris deserves to lose with an attitude like that and cane almost over prepared fir the 81 W final while the rest of the field played horribly . Martina was off to an inspired Hana while Evert had shriver ( who had strained her shoulder beating Austin ) two of the years Chris won W , it kinda was handed to her 74, 81 . The 76 W final she worked hard for beating Martina 6-4 in third in SF and Evonne 8-6 in the third . Chris s performance against Wade and Martina in 78 were abysmal . Evonne was so good in 80 she beat Austin in SF then outplayed Chris in final - her last best tournament t if her career . Evonne won when not expected ( w71 and 80 )
It was this loss in Wimbledon 80 that made Chris more determined to win every match in beginning of 80 - winning Wimbledon 81. Both women hinted that they both had their period in this match
Evert did beat Goolagong at Chichester -- but BARELY -- in the final 6-3 6-7 7-5.
It was a horrendous wind-driven match.
So far I've not come across one person on YT who has seen or own a recording of that match
To this day not sure why Goolagong skipped the U.S. Open in 80.
She was in good form having just won Wimbledon altho she lost easily to Andrea Jaeger in SF at U.S. Clay Court Championship who then lost to Evert in the final
thank you so much do you have the 1976 womens final.
Yes, I'll try to get to it before long.
Great to see this again....I was on the Centre Court that afternoon and watched both semis. This was an odd match no doubt about it...any have the FIRST SET of the final played between these two great players a year later at Wimbledon...Chris said afterwards that no one could have kept up with Evonne in the first set.....would be great to see it.
@@robertknibbs497 thats great to hear Chris said that as a lot of her followers on TH-cam make all sorts of excuses for 1980, the main one being she had a mental letdown after beating MN...not a real argument as she should have been on an ALL TIME HIGH after beating Martina.....and Evonne could just as easily have had a letdown after her big upset in the other Semi finals against Tracy Austin...You never hear that case from a few Evert fanatics who troll her every match on TH-cam, often hating on the other players who she played against and sometimes lost to
Evonne's dunlop was still a wooden racket right ? nice racket
In this match she is using a metal racket.
OH OK Thanks
is there a part 3
Most of these DVDs have at least one segment that won't load or process successfully - hence the gaps. It takes a bit of doing, but you can find sources of old matches online for purchase.
Ann Jones : Evonne posseses those nasty little chips bahaha
Did they really have their husbands' names on the scoreboard?
@@TheSingingMystic87 yup. I guess if you think about it, it's very sexist that women often still take their husbands surname when they marry. I guess we're only half way out of that sexism
@Oliver McCall stop and think. Firstly It's announcing a woman's sexual availability status. If a woman is "Mrs" is basically an announcement to men to say "I'm not sexually available". Secondly, it's implying that a woman is a man's property. Men don't have to change their title or name when they get married. Why is that?
MrLoaded2012 - Absolutely, although I'm unsure whether either asked their husband's permission to play, as is right and proper :)
@@zeddeka Most women are happy to take their husbands' surnames when they marry. If they weren't they wouldn't do it.
You can see Evonne is not happy with something in this match, all Evert had to do was keep the ball in play, which she was very good at
She was to say later that both she and Chris were suffering from "the worst day of their period"
Molto fine Chris Evert
I miss the bow and the curtsey.
Wow - they were still referring to married female players with their husbands' initials...I was wondering where the 'R' was in R. Cawley. Not exactly the vanguard of social progress, Wimbledon...
It was the convention then and who says the opposite is progress. (Roger by the way - her husband).
@@Ruda-n4h I don't see Roger on the tennis court, do you? And the "opposite" of this situation would not be Evonne just using her own initial, which is common sense, it would be referring to Roger Cawley as Mr E. Goolagong. No-one would call that progress.
The purpose of Wimbledon tennis is not to be in the vanguard of social progress.
Spare me from the social commentary. It was literally 45 years ago. You'd do better to focus on the modern dumpster fire that is today's world.
@@jakesingerman9257 yeah, I'm commenting on a 45 year old video, why would I be focusing on current affairs? In 1979 Wimbledon was the only grand slam referring to married female players by their husband's first names*, an anachronism even by their standards. I find that noteworthy, if you don't then feel free to move on.
*They only officially stopped doing it in 2022, does that qualify as one of today's dumpster fires?
In her autobiography, HOME, Evonne notes what an awful match this was. She says that she and Chris were both suffering (tmi ahead!) "the worst day of (their) periods."
nubndigger Chris in her book alludes to the same thing jokingly saying “ having your period “ may be psychological but when you stumble on side of the bed from it “ may be it’s not. British papers said the lackluster play on both ladies part was perhaps the result of both marrying Englishmen.
It's something that isn't really discussed much in sport, possibly because it affects different women in different ways. Still though, I think it explains some of the most surprising results in tennis. I believe Steffi Graf said she was suffering with terrible menstrual cramp during her match against Sanchez Vicario at the 89 french open
well Chris Everts must have lasted until her finals against MN where she did not play her best again!
no tennis racquet bags at that time
It looks so much slower than today's play.
really?
Mostly down to the wooden racquets, no the quality of the players.
The fifth game with Evert serving was perhaps the. Worst game she ever played - she totally lost concentration like she didn’t care - I’ve seen this only happen at Wimbledon for some reason . She has to be 100 percent engaged to win on grass. Happened in 72 semi, 75 semi. 77 semi. 79 final for sure. And first set of 80 final. So unexplainable - didn’t happen at other venues.
Martin Pascoe yes , that’s exactly what I’m saying you idiot. I never said that but Evert was a legend and when she lost in generalit had more to do with everts play than theirs .
You are a legend Len.
Martin Pascoe your such a piece of shit you troll. Name another venue where Chris had trouble as at Wimbledon ? at the US Open from 1975-1985 she won 6 times and never let herself down. The times she lost she was beaten by a player that outplayed her. Same at the French and Australian. What I am saying is that there is something about grass that distracts her , she is not her usual self . If this happened at other venues then I wouldn’t point it out. I don’t think her opponents play making her play poorly for her is the sole answer.. Grass was never her best surface. I think it’s the surface more than any other factor. Your the one who decided to insult me and be ugly putting words in my comments that were not there. Speaks to the creep that you are. Sorry Chris’s record pisses you off. Being the best brings everyone to the table doesn’t it.I don’t have to puff up Chris’s stats , they speak for themselves.
still cryin over spilt milk all these decades later Lenny
Mrs. J.M Lloyd..hmmm
No-one was bothered at the time.
❤️ Dan Haskell
Maskell not Haskell
Probably the most forgettable match betweenness the 2.
Evonne was absolutely beautiful much more than Chris in her playing days ..Evert was attractive but always with her make up on??
Cathy Smyth...SO?
What? These are two supreme athletes of their time not trying to out model each other for a Vogue cover. What kind of woman are you to bring down the role of a female athlete to who is the more attractive? Nobody graced a tennis court with better rhythm and timing than Evonne but this was matched by Chris’s precision and consistency. This may not have been their best match but it is illustrative of the way tennis was progressing to a more baseline play than the serve and volley of the grasscourt players. I can’t believe a woman has reduced a tennis mach to who wore the bloody lipstick. You should be ashamed.
I only mention looks bc everyone seems to talk about Evert onlyfrin those days as the so called looker ..Evert to me was full of false modesty and still is !!Evonne was the more naturally beautiful in spirt and looks and the much more humble of the 2..Evonne was always the crowd fav her game was like ballet on court! poetry in motion
Both Evonne and Chris were pretty and attractive. Both are quite modest and nice. Both were great players too in their own way. Evonne probably had the more graceful game, but Evert clearly dominated their rivalry.
The data speaks for itself. Evert led the rivalry 26-13. Even if you take out the last 4 matches, it is 22-13 Evert. Evert was quite simply the better player and this is not meant as an insult to Evonne. From what I remember, Evonne herself acknowledged and accepted the fact that Evert was ahead of her. The “metronome” quality of Evert helped against Evonne.
Not their best, Both women had menstrual cramps.
How the game has changed. I doubt if either of these players then could win a 5A high school match now. Notice the brown grass between the net and the service line. Players actually played at the net.
Indy glf if you’ve ever played tennis with a wood racket like have you’d understand that the equipment of today make tennis a completely different game. One had to rely on strategy, placement, mental strength rather than power. You could not hit a winner from behind the baseline if you opponent was on the opposite baseline . Wood rackets did not give you the power to do that unlike today’s
Indy glf----it was chrissie and martina..that changed tennis...and then came along stefi and monica....then martina hingis...then the williams sisters........and because of chrissie and martina N.....tennis is the way it is now.........
@@lenwelch2195 exactly! a wood racket heck even early graphite rackets of the 80's compared to rackets AND strings today is like comparing a wet paper towel and titanium steel!.. i will always believe that tennis players "back then" were quote actually better TENNIS players then today's players, they HAD TO BE because of the technology.. today's players are basically athletes who just happen to play tennis and given the advantage of the weaponry now..
i think they could both win now because the best of any generation would adjust!
you dumbass. these players are much more enjoyable to watch than most players today! no grunting, graceful shots, no time wasting, etc.
Martin passcode. Maxi Paz: These two troll on evert matches and go after Evert fans. Even if the opponent is not mentioned they gang up on any one who has any thing to say that’s nice about Chris. Hopefully these two after I’ve reported the will stop.