New art is very standardized and sometimes just blurry with very little details for the most of it. I hope that in the future they'll allow for more diversity.
Odyssey foil rares hold a pretty special place in my heart, back whenever it came out it was crazy what people would do for the shiny rares. I remember trading a foil Traumatize for pretty much half of someone's collection, same/similar with a foil Cognivore too. It just feels strange thinking back now, imagining that those collections could be worth thousands, while a foil Traumatize is worth 10 bucks.
Rudy's commentary reminds me of the comic book crash in the 90s. Comic book companies were printing several special editions of issues, and collectors were buying them hoping they would be worth bank in the future. It turns out only collectors were buying them and other most folks had limited interest in them. The comic book market crashed when folks realized this. The reserve list cards are still gems, but everyone hoping their shocklands will be tomorrow's dual lands are in for a rude awakening.
That's absolutely why I have a playset of shocks and fetches and only buy more as I need them. Been dumping all my excess income into true duals since banks give such shit interest on savings.
Opened a foil sliver overlord out of a pack of scourge on new years eve. It was me and my buddy in the front of a 2007 camry screaming our minds out..... It's definitely a different feeling than pulling a foil now in days.
If no one is playing the game...no one will collect it. The largest history of growth in prices was during the pro tour era. Magic doesn't have much other media or video games to really prop it up. Without the game...there is no collectable aspect. Magic needs to pivot to making the game fun and exciting again.
@@rebelking_21 & @jayceh & others: It looks like you're 2 years late from that image. Paper is actually going strong, Alchemy is unsuccessful, ... You should observe a little better. :)
@@petrseghman4283 no my friend, arena is going very strong. Paper is declining. They had the huge LOTR set which is the ONLY reason they had a positive year
Prophecy was the set that REALLY got me hooked into Magic when I was middle school aged. I had played, as a young-in, with some of the Ice Age area, but I got back into it when I was in middle school with Prophecy and the Oddyssey block. I have some wonderful memories of my LGS in that era, mostly of me being awful at draft... Some of my favorite art in magic is of that era. Thank you for sharing Rudy, its a blast to see a walk through the eras of Magic with you.
Rudy hates the term Game Pieces because it means he has to recognize that these cards are for playing first. This isn't a static collectible like toys, comics or baseball cards. The cards are a playable part of the game, and their popularity is tied not just to rarity but also covitability. Magic the Gathering is a TCG, not CCG. The cards are not worth what they tell you, they're only worth what someone else will pay you for them. Prices will rise when value rises. Value is determined by need. When people play cardboard as much as before covid, you will see values increase on the secondary market. The difference now is that the secondary market has been aped by Hasbro, because they want that money first. STOP HOARDING CARDS. PLAY THE ACTUAL GAME.
I remember when I was a 10-year-old kid. I played with some of these cards you're showing us. I just loved to read the flavor text, admire the art, and smell them every time you bought a new booster. We spent an entire afternoon playing it. Good memories.
this is my favorite content of yours to be honest. the players need this conversation. Ive been playing since 2010 and i just started to play legacy. Almost no product seems worth it to me anymore. the new ravnica seemed like the perfect product for me, but its just not worth the money anymore. i would love to draft it, but the cards arent even playable for me anymore.
Welcome to the best format. I haven't bought any sealed product since a Baldur's Gate set box with $20 in value in the entire thing. It's not worth it anymore, as you say. Just buy singles
Also, it's very likely the value add path WotC will take will go the way Rudy is talking about, mostly because that's a successful path that has been walked before by the sports card companies
I keep banging this drum: WotC needs to make a reprint cap. Let's say 5, rare/mythic gets it's 5th reprint and then becomes reserved. Their reprint equity would sky rocket. Imagine the set that has a 5th printing, you suddenly have tons of value in a card. And to the game pieces crowd, there'd be hundreds of thousands, if not millions of copies of the card. It will always be available. It just might go from $1 to $5.
I like the idea but I'll play Devil's Advocate. What if it's a card that's really important in the game? Maybe just reserving certain artwork would work better.
@@monkey39128 I see your point, but I can't think of a card that's so important that the numbers printed wouldn't satisfy the market. Let's use Birds of Paradise as an example. If BoP became reserved tomorrow, I can't see it shooting up to a $100 card. There's just too much in existence. $15-$20? Maybe? But I'm sure there's more copies of BoP out there than there are MtG players. Any new RL card under what I proposed could never become as scarce as, say, an Arabian Nights RL card. So regardless of how good or important to the game the card is I don't think any RL, post Urza's Saga, could ever become the next Gaea's Cradle.
Im the only fool to have put The Entire Mystery Booster Set together, 100% completed, and done so by personally pulling all the cards myself. Nearly 3 or 4 completed sets. Including 3 mana crypts and rystic study D Tutor ect.... bought an absurd amount of mystery booster And you know what, it was extremely fun.
It means that in 2 maybe 3 cycles times. Nobody invested in sealed boxes so supply will be low and people will look and new blood will join, if this market decides that the older product is now amazing and nostalgia takes over, those who were patient and stood their ground will profit.
@@monkey39128 These have multiple problems, apparently that chinese printing company can't even afford to sharpen their cutting machines. I wouldn't hold any trust in these cards holding up for over 30y just like magic cards do. It's like you're buying chinese proxies.
@@GubbleButz Sadly his content has been pretty poor for a while now. He needs to get back to the days where he talked about life and how money works. Moaning about the Magic market is pointless because it isn't going to change anytime soon. The last genuinely brilliant video I remember was one from about 18 months ago where he talked about buying assets in a crashing economy. I still like his videos but the old ones were definitely better.
Magic is not doing well. Secondary market is dead - meaning it is no longer a "collectible" trading card game. I've pulled my money out, cutting my losses. I hope I am wrong. I wish everyone who is playing or collecting magic realizes that the people controlling their product don't give two shites about them. Only how to extort more and more money out of them.
What's interesting is that the Universe's Beyond serialised cards look like they're selling quite well. Seems like Magic is just going to be the West's answer to Weiss Schwarz. Funny old world.
Why don’t you show off your MetaZoo collection that you 100% told ppl to invest in? alpha INVESTMENTS. You are quick to celebrate tho when one of your sets workout for you like the Pokémon bathroom and every other set. I like you but you need to take accountability like a man.
Bro I am a huge fan of set collecting, I recently completed Onslaught and Scourge (Legions is next). I would like to complete the new sets as well but I prefer pre-Modern cards
I use to collect the MTG sets. Did it for enjoyment not for investing. The new sets have killed it for me. Stopped chasing the extras and only went the numbered set. It’s just not interesting anymore. The MTG scene is just for players now. Collectors stick with old school MTG or are moving to other CCG.
Nice video man. I've been watching you for a long time and I'm a new patron. I think you make a lot of sense here. I enjoy set collecting myself but we're talking the four horsemen sets. It's taking me a long time to acquire but I'm in for the long game like you always talk about and I appreciate any information you're willing to give so thanks!
Oddly enough, I think theres still a market for Full Set Collections. Case and point, a few years ago Yugioh came out with the "Maximum Gold" set and I thought it was cool and wanted to put the set together, which i did. Complete set, near mint, pack fresh straight to sleeves in a nice Dex zipper binder. Fast forward to 2022(like a year after the set came out), i got laid off from my job and had to put the set up for sale. it cost me about $450 to complete the set, and it sold a month or two after i posted it on Ebay for $950. Maybe it was a fluke that it sold, but I doubled my investment. I used to be a set collector with Yugioh like 20 years ago when it was still getting started and at some point i had to give it up because i was young and couldnt afford it. I think theres work to be done with completing sets and I think there are people out there that want these sets to archive.
@@Luxorcist Never opened any sealed MAGO but I've bought a lot of singles from that set (because they are the cheapest printing usually) and there was always weirdness with the gold outlines on the card frames being warped / disfigured, and just general strange quality control on that set. But maybe thats just because those were mod plays and that foiling style just doesn't hold up to play.
Longing for the days where you had the one default version of a card, and then if you so happened to get in a foiled treatment of that card then that was your trophy. Simple and rewarding.
I believe the card world will crumble immediately after someone figures out how to make people play with holograms and high quality animated toys. We already have drones all over the world so it's not gonna take long for all of this to happen. But until then I'll go on collecting old mtg. Doesn't matter if it's RL or just first printing of some strong old staple that got reprinted to oblivion. Unfortunately I can't afford to spend much but hey, u do what u can. Old is gold. And I like it. ❤
@@monkey39128 yeah, something like that. That would not be the first time cinema and TV predicted the future, at least for what concerns achievements in the technology field. Think about it, would u rather go on spending money on a printed Sheoldred or would u prefer the "alive" version of her?
I've never intentionally collected a set of MtG cards, and I've been playing and collecting since 1994. Any sets I have acquired along the way have been incidental to gathering playsets for decks.
Any remains of the valuable > $50.00 card list will probably be crushed by MH3. Elemental reprints, Sheoldred reprint, Meathook Massacre, Great Henge. All slated for more reprints given their secondary market prices.
I've been working on a complete set of adventures in the forgotten realms. The set is just massive. Foil/non foil core set. Two promo variants of each rare/mythic. And then the commander set. And then the art cards. Been working on it since release, and even the ampersand promos are hard to find in mint condition.
These videos got me To sign up on patreon last month. I have more 2020-2023 bundles, commander decks, collector blisters than anyone. Prolly 5 cases of crimson vow and midnight hunt to strixhaven to AFR. I’ll be sending you thousands in crypto next year cash in out to physical assets. You’re the goat of cardboard hoarders and aspire to have a matching empire
I think back then it was basically game piece as well. Just that popularities side effect is a collectible that either happens or not. We have drank our own coolaid. MTG was never supposed to be a currency. I love collectables. But they have to happen naturally, they can never be curated. Otherwise they are a controlled market.
i think vintage magic will have a big uprise the next year cause modern magic gets way to complex and way harder to get in as a new player every new set with every new ability, new combos etc.. If you play old magic, you know the cards you know the mechs there is nothing complete new or suprising coming out and its just easier to understand and to play.
@@NoahCloud_SumZer0 yeah thats why people playing wow Classic since 20 years cause its boring or repetive. Or better thats why people Play chess since 5000 years.. idiot
Rudy: "people who think for themselves will know that..." Me, who listens to some guy in a basement for advice on cardboard, not thinking for himself: " hmmmm yes yes that does make sense...." 😂😂
I never understood how anyone could make a set collection in alpahbetic order and not by number. Not only you have the colors spreads everywhere, but it's also very hard to know when a card is missing that way.
@low9384 not everyone views this game as an investment. a lot of us collect it because we love the game. it's not about the dollar value. this is a game first and foremost
This whole set is worth about $400 near mint for the normal set. If you want the foils only that s about 10 times that at least. If you now want both normal and foils then good luck spending the time putting all those together.
RUDY!!!! It's all just a repeat of the INFAMOUS Lucy and Charlie Brown football play. WotC will pivot to get all the Timmies to believe that they will not pull the football just as they all commit to kicking the football with all their might in the hopes of getting it through the goal posts. Once they are all running full speed to kick the ball, WotC will reprint the shit out of every single card of value (pull the football once again) until the Timmies fall flat on their backs as their card values crash to zero. WotC started this behavior with "Chronicles" and continued to do it under various disguises throughout MTG history. Today is no different!!
I predicted this. That's why I consistently traded in my new cards for reserved list cards. I figured you had predicted this too cause you seem to have invested in reserved list cards too.
Isn't this just the same thing as today? "Hitting that foil Jace, The Mind Sculpter" is the same as hitting a serialized card. The only difference is now we have a greater selection of cards for those that aren't able to drop big money on boxes and want to just "play" the game itself. You don't have to drop hundreds on playsets, but the premium copy of the card will retain its value to some extent depending on playability.
Twenty years ago those cards were good indeed. I remember when the first set of Ravnica got us Shock lands. What a good start that was, and foils? Yikes, expensive right from the start. Now, all reprinted a dozen or more times, lost the appeal with ten variants and five different foilings that are all equally bulk level rarity.
Infamous citadel? Tarnished citadel is a 35$ card, why keep saying these cards have no value? Tainted pact 20$, and the foils are all over the place. The market for singles is not as bad, only for the chaff. Deserted temple and chephilid colosseum are both 15$ entomb is 15$
Ah my Middle School and High School years. Rudy is either still really sick or channeling his old man while looking at nostalgic era cards. Anyone else notice him wearing a sweater??
I think they have to design new powerful (mythic) rare cards that impact the game, but are balanced at the same time. Difficult task, but not impossible. Sometimes they achieve this goal, but they tend to reprint also those cards rather quickly.
They could fix all of this by making new sets more powerful. If mythics were more powerful than the cards they re-print, and they were very few per box then some cards would have value. It’d make people chase all new cards instead of re-printing the same ones over and over.
That old art is so much better than the new art!
The new art is what the AI overlords want us to enjoy!
A.I. looks better than that political sanitized,digital painted, diversity quota art we’ve had for years now.
Nothing beats old school magic artwork
New art is very standardized and sometimes just blurry with very little details for the most of it.
I hope that in the future they'll allow for more diversity.
@@ShannonBarber78 I'm sure WOTC would do that. But luckily for other games, there are AI's that are trained without woke bias.
Odyssey foil rares hold a pretty special place in my heart, back whenever it came out it was crazy what people would do for the shiny rares. I remember trading a foil Traumatize for pretty much half of someone's collection, same/similar with a foil Cognivore too. It just feels strange thinking back now, imagining that those collections could be worth thousands, while a foil Traumatize is worth 10 bucks.
Rudy's commentary reminds me of the comic book crash in the 90s. Comic book companies were printing several special editions of issues, and collectors were buying them hoping they would be worth bank in the future. It turns out only collectors were buying them and other most folks had limited interest in them. The comic book market crashed when folks realized this. The reserve list cards are still gems, but everyone hoping their shocklands will be tomorrow's dual lands are in for a rude awakening.
That's absolutely why I have a playset of shocks and fetches and only buy more as I need them. Been dumping all my excess income into true duals since banks give such shit interest on savings.
It's all about if new cards has purpose (used in tournaments/EDH)
@Bladeofwar94 banks are giving 4-5% on CDs lol
Opened a foil sliver overlord out of a pack of scourge on new years eve.
It was me and my buddy in the front of a 2007 camry screaming our minds out..... It's definitely a different feeling than pulling a foil now in days.
If no one is playing the game...no one will collect it. The largest history of growth in prices was during the pro tour era. Magic doesn't have much other media or video games to really prop it up. Without the game...there is no collectable aspect. Magic needs to pivot to making the game fun and exciting again.
And if the cards are worth $1 no one will buy product and then there will be no more new sets.
That is a beautiful fish.
They are pivoting to Digital MTG ARENA and Alchemy cards which are only playable on arena, they are making a fortune on arena with microtransactions
@@rebelking_21 & @jayceh & others:
It looks like you're 2 years late from that image. Paper is actually going strong, Alchemy is unsuccessful, ... You should observe a little better. :)
@@petrseghman4283 no my friend, arena is going very strong. Paper is declining. They had the huge LOTR set which is the ONLY reason they had a positive year
_Florida Man Sells Metazoo, Acquires Vintage MTG-You Do the Math_
Both a joke and a profoundly true statement. Genius.
I have no pity for folks that couldn't do the math BEFORE buying Metazoo.
you do the meth.
@@V1C10US I do. People want to make fast money to improve their shitty lives and they got burned. It's sad when people screw up.
@banditkeithkingofduelmonst6502 Who told you!?
How do we react? Buy singles. Buy RL.
Sealed game: open a booster pack every time Rudy says infamous 🃏🧔
Bonus for Flip or Rip: Flip for Collectable, Rip for Game-Piece.
Prophecy was the set that REALLY got me hooked into Magic when I was middle school aged.
I had played, as a young-in, with some of the Ice Age area, but I got back into it when I was in middle school with Prophecy and the Oddyssey block. I have some wonderful memories of my LGS in that era, mostly of me being awful at draft... Some of my favorite art in magic is of that era. Thank you for sharing Rudy, its a blast to see a walk through the eras of Magic with you.
LOL, just made my employee jump because as soon as I saw the title I clicked on it while yelling "GAAAAMMEEE PIECES!!" at the top of my lungs
imagine collecting and buying all this cards over years from 100 different sellers only to sell it to old rudy with 60 % loss..
@@ShannonBarber78 yeah for sure people collecting cards to lose money 100 % nobody wants to make money with collecting cards.. wake up
@@ShannonBarber78lol Pennies? 😂 what?!
Rudy hates the term Game Pieces because it means he has to recognize that these cards are for playing first. This isn't a static collectible like toys, comics or baseball cards. The cards are a playable part of the game, and their popularity is tied not just to rarity but also covitability. Magic the Gathering is a TCG, not CCG. The cards are not worth what they tell you, they're only worth what someone else will pay you for them.
Prices will rise when value rises. Value is determined by need. When people play cardboard as much as before covid, you will see values increase on the secondary market. The difference now is that the secondary market has been aped by Hasbro, because they want that money first. STOP HOARDING CARDS. PLAY THE ACTUAL GAME.
I remember when I was a 10-year-old kid. I played with some of these cards you're showing us. I just loved to read the flavor text, admire the art, and smell them every time you bought a new booster. We spent an entire afternoon playing it. Good memories.
_On Advice of His Mom, Florida Man Wears Sweater-"But Mom, I Have Very Hairy Arms, It's Warm Enough!" Just Won't Cut It With This Lady_
🤣🤣🤣
this is my favorite content of yours to be honest. the players need this conversation. Ive been playing since 2010 and i just started to play legacy. Almost no product seems worth it to me anymore. the new ravnica seemed like the perfect product for me, but its just not worth the money anymore. i would love to draft it, but the cards arent even playable for me anymore.
my next large investment in old cards: im gonna buy a ton of foil and non foil 7th edition basic lands. some of the best basics to ever see print.
Welcome to the best format. I haven't bought any sealed product since a Baldur's Gate set box with $20 in value in the entire thing. It's not worth it anymore, as you say. Just buy singles
@@poultrylord7300 I'm convinced it's the best format as well. The cards are playable and fun in most formats as well
I tried so hard to build a deck around Desolation Angel back in high school
Also, it's very likely the value add path WotC will take will go the way Rudy is talking about, mostly because that's a successful path that has been walked before by the sports card companies
I keep banging this drum: WotC needs to make a reprint cap. Let's say 5, rare/mythic gets it's 5th reprint and then becomes reserved. Their reprint equity would sky rocket. Imagine the set that has a 5th printing, you suddenly have tons of value in a card. And to the game pieces crowd, there'd be hundreds of thousands, if not millions of copies of the card. It will always be available. It just might go from $1 to $5.
I like the idea but I'll play Devil's Advocate. What if it's a card that's really important in the game? Maybe just reserving certain artwork would work better.
@@monkey39128 I see your point, but I can't think of a card that's so important that the numbers printed wouldn't satisfy the market. Let's use Birds of Paradise as an example. If BoP became reserved tomorrow, I can't see it shooting up to a $100 card. There's just too much in existence. $15-$20? Maybe? But I'm sure there's more copies of BoP out there than there are MtG players. Any new RL card under what I proposed could never become as scarce as, say, an Arabian Nights RL card. So regardless of how good or important to the game the card is I don't think any RL, post Urza's Saga, could ever become the next Gaea's Cradle.
Rudy is wearing a sweater? That east coast cold snap must be really serious!
Im the only fool to have put
The Entire Mystery Booster Set together, 100% completed, and done so by personally pulling all the cards myself. Nearly 3 or 4 completed sets. Including 3 mana crypts and rystic study D Tutor ect.... bought an absurd amount of mystery booster
And you know what, it was extremely fun.
It means that in 2 maybe 3 cycles times. Nobody invested in sealed boxes so supply will be low and people will look and new blood will join, if this market decides that the older product is now amazing and nostalgia takes over, those who were patient and stood their ground will profit.
This stuff will probably still go up, the problem is that it's unlikely to outpace other assets. Still a cool thing to hoard if you love the cards.
Sorcery keeps looking better and better.
Not until they get in touch with good printing company, their chinese printed cards are abysmal quality compared to everyone else.
Sorcery has its own problems
@@Vivinski7 Yeah wasn't there some problem with the Beta cards having washed out colours compared to the Alpha cards?
@@monkey39128 These have multiple problems, apparently that chinese printing company can't even afford to sharpen their cutting machines.
I wouldn't hold any trust in these cards holding up for over 30y just like magic cards do.
It's like you're buying chinese proxies.
Sorcery is amazing. Get some foils and re asses
So, there were dumps, just not to the public, and that’s good? That still means they were dumped or destroyed right?
ITV: Rudy focuses on MTG and repeats the same things he has been saying in every other video for months.
That’s what makes it so entertaining.
The number of views indicates that the market is hungry for more content about how the game pieces philosophy is destroying the game.
@@ThePathofWealth According to Social Blade views are down 10.8% over the last 30 days and have been declining for months.
@@GubbleButz Sadly his content has been pretty poor for a while now. He needs to get back to the days where he talked about life and how money works. Moaning about the Magic market is pointless because it isn't going to change anytime soon. The last genuinely brilliant video I remember was one from about 18 months ago where he talked about buying assets in a crashing economy. I still like his videos but the old ones were definitely better.
@@GubbleButz is that compared to the same 30 days last year? It was a significant 30 days that affects lots of markets differently.
Magic is not doing well. Secondary market is dead - meaning it is no longer a "collectible" trading card game. I've pulled my money out, cutting my losses. I hope I am wrong.
I wish everyone who is playing or collecting magic realizes that the people controlling their product don't give two shites about them. Only how to extort more and more money out of them.
Thoughts on Sorcery?
What's interesting is that the Universe's Beyond serialised cards look like they're selling quite well. Seems like Magic is just going to be the West's answer to Weiss Schwarz. Funny old world.
Why don’t you show off your MetaZoo collection that you 100% told ppl to invest in? alpha INVESTMENTS. You are quick to celebrate tho when one of your sets workout for you like the Pokémon bathroom and every other set. I like you but you need to take accountability like a man.
I agree.
I'm still Collecting sets. I'm keeping that shit alive
Hell yeah I'm working on completing my tempest set
@everythingmetal9400 niiice! I'm doing tempest right now too!
@@thenickoftime167 nice! You just start?
@@everythingmetal9400 I'm about 70% done. Just need the more expensive cards
Yup.
I’m judging how bad Metazoo is doing by how many times it’s mentioned in the comments of a Rudy vintage magic video
All 10 shocks were in unfinity if that counts
Bro I am a huge fan of set collecting, I recently completed Onslaught and Scourge (Legions is next). I would like to complete the new sets as well but I prefer pre-Modern cards
I'm still set collecting. I just don't touch the gimmicks. No alt, ext, serial crap.
One of the reasons I buy vintage mtg, I'm a set collector. It's insane if you look at the checklists for the newer sets 300 to 400 cards.
One of the main reasons I buyout 1999-2006 foils. I have prevented so many sets from being finished. And I’m just one guy.
25:57 I just ate a giant bowl of chili, so there will be extreme dumping somewhere... even if it's not at Amazon
odyssey block is just nostalgic to me cause thats when i started playing and collecting honestly
MetaZoo so dead even Internet trolls won't stock it in their insults. . . BRUTAL!
I use to collect the MTG sets. Did it for enjoyment not for investing. The new sets have killed it for me. Stopped chasing the extras and only went the numbered set. It’s just not interesting anymore. The MTG scene is just for players now. Collectors stick with old school MTG or are moving to other CCG.
Nice video man. I've been watching you for a long time and I'm a new patron. I think you make a lot of sense here. I enjoy set collecting myself but we're talking the four horsemen sets. It's taking me a long time to acquire but I'm in for the long game like you always talk about and I appreciate any information you're willing to give so thanks!
Remember he never encouraged you to invest in magic.
There definitely isn't a video called "Alpha Investments presents: Magic The Gathering Hedge Fund". 😂
Rudy! Stop acquiring all the Game Pieces! They're supposed to be cheap and for everyone!! reeeeeeeeeeee ( oДo)
Oddly enough, I think theres still a market for Full Set Collections. Case and point, a few years ago Yugioh came out with the "Maximum Gold" set and I thought it was cool and wanted to put the set together, which i did. Complete set, near mint, pack fresh straight to sleeves in a nice Dex zipper binder. Fast forward to 2022(like a year after the set came out), i got laid off from my job and had to put the set up for sale. it cost me about $450 to complete the set, and it sold a month or two after i posted it on Ebay for $950. Maybe it was a fluke that it sold, but I doubled my investment. I used to be a set collector with Yugioh like 20 years ago when it was still getting started and at some point i had to give it up because i was young and couldnt afford it. I think theres work to be done with completing sets and I think there are people out there that want these sets to archive.
having a single card from MAGO that isn't horribly misprinted is rare in and of itself, let alone the complete set 🤣
@@frig7014 i didnt have any bad cards really, maybe a few with bad centering but the majority of them were in good shape so maybe i got lucky there
@@Luxorcist Never opened any sealed MAGO but I've bought a lot of singles from that set (because they are the cheapest printing usually) and there was always weirdness with the gold outlines on the card frames being warped / disfigured, and just general strange quality control on that set. But maybe thats just because those were mod plays and that foiling style just doesn't hold up to play.
Taco man stunts on us with Prophecy set. 😂
I can still vividly remember my buddy pulling a foil Urza's Rage back when Invasion was in "standard". It was like he won the lottery.
Still run it
Longing for the days where you had the one default version of a card, and then if you so happened to get in a foiled treatment of that card then that was your trophy. Simple and rewarding.
Stopped buying all magic and have been happy saving money paying down debt and what not.
_Florida Man Acquires Game Pieces_
Original Bearscape art - Cool
2023 Bearscape art - Horrible
I looked it up. Woah... That's such a great example.
I’m the fool who bought 60,000 1999-2006 foils over the last 6 years
I own a ton of bamboozle foils.
It’s because I love that almost smooth brain art work. And the tentacles.
60,000 cards? How much money is that?
@@monkey39128on paper I’m still up quite a bit. Everyone else has lost tons of %. On paper I’m above $140,000. And that’s pre spike.
I believe the card world will crumble immediately after someone figures out how to make people play with holograms and high quality animated toys.
We already have drones all over the world so it's not gonna take long for all of this to happen.
But until then I'll go on collecting old mtg.
Doesn't matter if it's RL or just first printing of some strong old staple that got reprinted to oblivion.
Unfortunately I can't afford to spend much but hey, u do what u can.
Old is gold.
And I like it. ❤
Maybe we can get holograms mixed with cards like the Yu-Gi-Oh anime? 😂
@@monkey39128 yeah, something like that.
That would not be the first time cinema and TV predicted the future, at least for what concerns achievements in the technology field.
Think about it, would u rather go on spending money on a printed Sheoldred or would u prefer the "alive" version of her?
Oh boy Rudy showed me this. Let me yolo my life savings into it and then blame him when i dont make money...... derrr
I've never intentionally collected a set of MtG cards, and I've been playing and collecting since 1994. Any sets I have acquired along the way have been incidental to gathering playsets for decks.
Any remains of the valuable > $50.00 card list will probably be crushed by MH3. Elemental reprints, Sheoldred reprint, Meathook Massacre, Great Henge. All slated for more reprints given their secondary market prices.
5:58 with Legacy Weapon on the “have almost no value” 😢 Used to make opponents gather up their cards.
I've been working on a complete set of adventures in the forgotten realms. The set is just massive. Foil/non foil core set. Two promo variants of each rare/mythic. And then the commander set. And then the art cards.
Been working on it since release, and even the ampersand promos are hard to find in mint condition.
These videos got me
To sign up on patreon last month. I have more 2020-2023 bundles, commander decks, collector blisters than anyone. Prolly 5 cases of crimson vow and midnight hunt to strixhaven to AFR. I’ll be sending you thousands in crypto next year cash in out to physical assets. You’re the goat of cardboard hoarders and aspire to have a matching empire
How can you know that you have more than anyone?
@@monkey39128 sorry more than 99.69% of people. Better?
@@akmothman843 i have enough in my 410k, Ira, crypto, stonks. Jesus. Am I allowed to enjoy my forts and the fruits of my
Labor?
I think back then it was basically game piece as well. Just that popularities side effect is a collectible that either happens or not. We have drank our own coolaid. MTG was never supposed to be a currency. I love collectables. But they have to happen naturally, they can never be curated. Otherwise they are a controlled market.
9:05 _"Now, for the people who have more of a depth of personality, and can think for themselves"_
F-! Lost me already... (" -.-)
i think vintage magic will have a big uprise the next year cause modern magic gets way to complex and way harder to get in as a new player every new set with every new ability, new combos etc.. If you play old magic, you know the cards you know the mechs there is nothing complete new or suprising coming out and its just easier to understand and to play.
It gets repetitive pretty fast though
@@NoahCloud_SumZer0 yeah thats why people playing wow Classic since 20 years cause its boring or repetive. Or better thats why people Play chess since 5000 years.. idiot
Whenever Rudy says "infamous" take a drink.
Rudy gives up magic and embraces the love of Jesus Christ
18:03 Dirty Wererat, By DAREN BADER... Every Card has Great Art. Those....where the Times.
I'm sure Hasbro will keep doing annual Remaster sets, with original art reprints.
Gotta love the art of bamboozle. I own like 100+ foils of bamboozle. It’s such a great piece of artwork.
Could you make a video about the sorcery market.
Alpha vs beta. Foil vs non values and investment grow in the future.
Rudy: "people who think for themselves will know that..."
Me, who listens to some guy in a basement for advice on cardboard, not thinking for himself: " hmmmm yes yes that does make sense...." 😂😂
God, when you said Working Designs it literally made my fucking heart hurt.
What a magnificent company that put it's heart and soul into it's product.
I never understood how anyone could make a set collection in alpahbetic order and not by number.
Not only you have the colors spreads everywhere, but it's also very hard to know when a card is missing that way.
Awrite! Can't go wrong with fine rectangles of luxury cardboard! ( o3o)
set collecting is still a thing.. maybe not as big but still happening .. I know many people still doing so
What a waste of money
I think it's still popular when it comes to the Universe's Beyond sets but not as much with the regular sets.
@low9384 not everyone views this game as an investment. a lot of us collect it because we love the game. it's not about the dollar value. this is a game first and foremost
What I think you are saying is that, you gotta know when to hold 'em. Know when to fold 'em. Know when to walk away. know when to run.
Sorcery is the future.
Doesn't MTGO send you a set if you redeem it? That use to be a thing.
When wotc started selling chase cards for secondary market prices. That was the end. I'm not sure how they are getting away with it.
This whole set is worth about $400 near mint for the normal set. If you want the foils only that s about 10 times that at least. If you now want both normal and foils then good luck spending the time putting all those together.
I love the old foil sets
RUDY!!!! It's all just a repeat of the INFAMOUS Lucy and Charlie Brown football play. WotC will pivot to get all the Timmies to believe that they will not pull the football just as they all commit to kicking the football with all their might in the hopes of getting it through the goal posts. Once they are all running full speed to kick the ball, WotC will reprint the shit out of every single card of value (pull the football once again) until the Timmies fall flat on their backs as their card values crash to zero. WotC started this behavior with "Chronicles" and continued to do it under various disguises throughout MTG history. Today is no different!!
Money is rotating out of OS mtg but Rudy keeps buying - does Rudy rotate?
I predicted this. That's why I consistently traded in my new cards for reserved list cards. I figured you had predicted this too cause you seem to have invested in reserved list cards too.
i collect complete sets and love it
Isn't this just the same thing as today? "Hitting that foil Jace, The Mind Sculpter" is the same as hitting a serialized card. The only difference is now we have a greater selection of cards for those that aren't able to drop big money on boxes and want to just "play" the game itself. You don't have to drop hundreds on playsets, but the premium copy of the card will retain its value to some extent depending on playability.
Hellified gamesterpieces 💪
What you didn’t mention Call of the herd?
That's some work...my older sets are fully alphabetized, but once the numbering started, that all went out the window
I would here when the market turn also Rudy,not going anywhere and still hoarding strong
Twenty years ago those cards were good indeed. I remember when the first set of Ravnica got us Shock lands. What a good start that was, and foils? Yikes, expensive right from the start. Now, all reprinted a dozen or more times, lost the appeal with ten variants and five different foilings that are all equally bulk level rarity.
you know things are bad when rudy says vintage magic has no future potential
Magic The Gathering Online just removed my account, I will never buy another Magic The Gathering product ever. Not ever, and that is a promise.
I can't imagine anyone set collecting now with 1000+ cards per set. 10+ variants of the same card. What a disaster
Also the foil of entomb is 400$
They did triomes to try and spice it up. Next will be 4 mana lands or something!
Infamous citadel? Tarnished citadel is a 35$ card, why keep saying these cards have no value? Tainted pact 20$, and the foils are all over the place. The market for singles is not as bad, only for the chaff. Deserted temple and chephilid colosseum are both 15$ entomb is 15$
Where's the Bearscape deck Rudy.....WHERE IS IT?!
Ah my Middle School and High School years. Rudy is either still really sick or channeling his old man while looking at nostalgic era cards. Anyone else notice him wearing a sweater??
His mom insisted "It's cold, you'll catch something"
I love balancing act one of my favourite cards and IMO underrated and under priced. Probably one of the best foils you could get in the set.
Watch out for binder bend!,,,,
I think they have to design new powerful (mythic) rare cards that impact the game, but are balanced at the same time. Difficult task, but not impossible. Sometimes they achieve this goal, but they tend to reprint also those cards rather quickly.
Stay the course people,thanks Taco King
Magic 2.0 is coming
Exactly the video we needed, thank you!
I LOVE THIS BLOCK
They could fix all of this by making new sets more powerful. If mythics were more powerful than the cards they re-print, and they were very few per box then some cards would have value. It’d make people chase all new cards instead of re-printing the same ones over and over.
Stay the course