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17 And Friends well raid do pay a shit tons of money, and he need to support himself dude. Just skip the ad and hope the cancer would go away in the future
Yo Qaaman, great to see some fresh content. Say I had a very interesting what if. What if Goku had landed on Beerus Planet instead of Yardrat? How drastically would this have changed things or do you think nothing would've really changed? Consider Goku telling Whis and Beerus he defeated Frieza. Your thoughts?
Crazy 6th Theory on how the Androids could've been defeated. What if Bulma engineered the Heart Virus to target them or find a way to infect them with it? Would this Virus work as they are still part human? Remember that the Earth's population was affected by it in Trunk's Timeline according to him before a cure was found. Who's to say the Androids didn't destroy that cure except for what Bulma had. If you think this is plausible I'd love to hear your thoughts.
@@QaamansLand even a year would be too long since Goku has been to Kings Kai's planet already. Plus, he now has instant transmission. Anything longer than a Day would be highly unbelievable
It's been established that one doesn't keep their body and ethier enters their final resting place or reincarnates if one dies of natural causes. Goku cannot come back in Trunk's timeline.
@@finaloblivion799 You don't keep your body normally in dragonball if you die for any reason. An exception was made for Goku before due to all the good he did while alive the first time and the second time he died in main timeline. Why wouldn't that apply for his second death in the future timeline?
18: Prepare for trouble! 17: And make it double! 18: To protect the world from devastation! 17: To unite all peoples from within our nation! 18: To denounce the evils of truth and love! 17: To extend our reach to the stars above! 18: Android 18! 17: Android 17! 18: Red Ribbon Army leaving you trembling from fright! 17: Surrender now or prepare to fight! 16: LET US PROCEED IN KILLING SON GOKU!
i mean where are they, what are they doing, does things that happen in the main timeline happen in the future timeline like some examples, beerus waking up to fight the super saiyan god, champa going to universe 7 to look for the dragon balls, moro breaking out of prison. the frieza remnants going to earth to use the dragon balls to resurrect him, tarble landing on earth in age 776, does broly stay on his planet forever, what happens to jaco, what happens to tights, what happens to ginyu, etc..
i thought about this a few days ago in the future timeline you have this Galactic king, king of the milky way galaxy (which earth is in) and you have his galactic patrol, and you have jaco with i think tight's contacts. at some point you'd think the galactic patrol would see what's happening on earth and do something about it.
Prepare for trouble! And make it double! To protect the world from devastation! To unite all peoples within our nation! To denounce the evils of truth and love! To extend our reach to the stars above! Android18! Android 17! Team Rocket blasts off at the speed of light! Surrender now, or prepare to fight! Meowth! That's right!
The Piccollo that fused with Kame had previously trained in preparation of the androids. Piccollo from trunks timeline didnt have any prep or training so future super nemek piccollo might have been significantly weaker than the one we saw in Z.
While that is true he would be training just to train and according to trucks the present androids were stronger than his future androids I think it would have equaled out
Seems like everyone forgets about King Yemma. In the buu arc he sends vegeta back to prevent the mass deaths due to buu. He doesn't act often but can send aid when needed
The difference is Vegeta wouldn't have even been needed here plus Future Vegeta had even less good deeds under his belt so I doubt King Yemma would have even entertained the idea. Not to mention Buu was threatening the universe not just Earth.
As much as I love the Cell saga - it's sadly the best example of Toriyama having 0 clue how to handle all hax he created. In order to create tension he just forgets about them all which creates plot holes.
@@QaamansLand One that I dislike the most is probably lack of communication with Kaio-sama. But Future Gohan being so weak despite Zenkai boost being so overpowered in Freeza saga also bothers me a lot. It's really shame to me because I have very unpopular opinion of liking 17 and 18 as villains more than I like Freeza (despite not having anything against Freeza). It's sad that most of the tension coming from them is created by really bad writing.
Only person that communicated with kaio is goku. And lots of bad things happened on earth without him knowing because he had moved on. It's also possible.goku went through reincarnation in this continuity because he died of natural causes.
@@DSan-kl2yc It's Kaio who "calls" them, not the other way around. And for example Kami talked to Kaio too. He also talked to somebody (Bulma?) about wishes at the end of Namek Saga.
@@Reality-Distortion kaio didn't know anything happening on earth till goku goes there. Goku is his main pupil. And the one he stays in touchm and it was goku that started talking to kaiosama during the freeza fight. It's not that he doesn't have the ability to, it's that he doesn't look and has no reason to do so. The freeza fight too was something he witnessed because he followed goku. You're trying to say something is illogical when it isn't. Kami died a long time ago in that timeline. And the Android's weren't even a galaxy wide/universal quadrant threat which is his job. Protecting the earth isn't. His main connection to the earth is Goku.
Did “super” ever address the fact that Roshi, Turtle, Oolong, Puar, Chi Chi, and Ox King are still alive in the “future” timeline. Why didn’t anyone check up on them when Vegeta, Goku, and Bulma joined Trunks in the future
Toriyama forgot alot when he wrote future trunks scenario theres almost no way it shoulda went like that tbh even if we say fck all the plot holes gohans potential alone shoulda been enough from where he was as a kid and knowing that all his fights from then on left him near death and his rage boosts shoulda zenkiad him past the androids shit to me he woulda unlocked ss2
I've always wondered what if Gohan had a kid with anybody in the future, doesn't have to be Videl, and if Trunks did the same, doesn't have to be Mai, if that would've helped evened the score any.
@@QaamansLand since Gohan was most likely in his early to mid 20s in the HOT movie I'd say a few days to a few weeks before his death. As for Trunks, if it's the timeline where he killed the cyborgs after returning from the past, then it doesn't matter too much when it happened. Just depends on the timeline really.
Yeah at best the Androids should be like Ginyu force level.. Hell Android 8 is like Mountain level. And yet 8 models later Gero created weapons of mass destruction that could slap super sayains. Also love your profile pic.
Of course it's silly. Freeza's Empire had some of the best scientists in the galaxy. They made Freeza a cyborg and he barely got any stronger from his 120 million base. Dr. Gero, took 2 human orphans with a base power of around 1 and made them able to bitch slap the guy who easily crushed Freeza. It's ridiculous.
Technology on earth has always been ahead of any alien technology we’ve seen in the series, with the exception of space travel prior to the Saiyans. But we see the briefs design the most advanced technology it would only be right that someone who equaled dr brief could build something like that.
wasnt Piccolo from the main time line stronger than the one from the future time line due to the extra training after being informed of future events? so even if future Piccolo fused with Kami he still might not have been strong enough to take down both 17 & 18 even though they were weaker in the future and given the differences in their attitude doubtful they would take turns in that fight.
There is a flaw in your second theory. That flaw is that One Day Pass Goku had during the Buu Saga most likely would not have happened in the Future Trunks Timeline. The only reason Goku got that pass was to Participate in the then revived Worlds Martial Arts Tournament. Otherwise that would've never happened. Looking at the Future Trunks Saga they weren't holding any Tournament nor were they going to due to the state of the World caused by the devastation of the Androids. Now that doesn't mean that it couldn't happen. Baba & the Kai's, or whoever has that authority could've still granted Goku & other Z fighters a pass in the future timeline. However, think about it, the Planet had been suffering for years before the future Androids were finally defeated. Baba & everyone else in otherworld sat there & watched everyone suffer. What makes anyone think they wouldn't all of the sudden had a change of heart?
It's actually baba that gives him a pass. And she gave one to grandpa Gohan before. They technically don't even need king kai for it. Roshi or anyone can get in contact with her, and she can get in contact with the spirits. Unless she also died
That last part makes sense. Even if Kaiosama didn’t keep in touch with Gorham like he did with Goku, I see the scenario where Gohan meets Yemma, is allowed to go to Kaiosama’s planet via Snake Way. I’m sure Kaio would understand Gohan & communicate with New Namek (or take him there since he know teleportation apparently) to wish for his planet, friends & family back. You should do a what if Future Gohan destroyed the earth to defeat the androids.
One thing I remembered, Piccolo in the main timeline fused with Kami had trained with Goku and Gotham leading up to the Androids’ arrival. I wouldn’t think that the future Piccolo would suddenly stop training but he might not have trained as vigorously and in return not be as strong as the main timeline version of himself
Best question is where were Goku and the other Z fighters after they died? Goku loves chilling at King Kai’s and he could have set a plan up after seeing the z fighters die. Why didn’t a single z fighter do anything? Why did Babadi wait to visit earth? Why didn’t he visit and supreme Kai snuff out the androids? Dabura could have killed the androids to. Remember Mr PoPo is faster and as at least as strong as ssj2 goten/trunks. Why didn’t he ever properly train anyone?
The idea of blowing up the earth to do it is amazing plotwise actually, as it could change Gohan into a "end justify the means mindset" and lead him into becoming evil or punisher like
Question was number 5 reasoning because we don’t know for sure if the androids can breath in space ? Or u don’t think they have planet level durability?
Qaaman cuz uk if remember during the cell saga when he was blowing up the island looking for 18 18 asked 16 if he could go under water or she at least thought about it but it 16 was to badly injured
@@bobjr8519 Well those are to very different thing 18 could just take breath after swim flying to other side of the planet but space well they’re going to run out of air eventually
Qaaman I figured he’d be in that timeline still looking for them even if they’re dead (Just like what happened after Trunks killed the androids) so hopefully whoever is alive at the time can take on Cell
Luis Suazo If they only said the words “Androids” then yes it would include Cell. But if they specifically said “Android 17 and 18” then Cell will be around. Just depends how they word it
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The only issue I have with these is the One Day Pass and the Mafuba. First Goku's good deeds accumulated also involved most likely his biggest deed which was saving the entirety of Earth from being blown up by Cell, which wouldn't have happened in that timeline, plus the fact that in Trunks' timeline he died from natural causes, which might have negated the pass all together. And from what I remember The Evil Containment Wave could only be used on one person at a time and I think the Future Gohan final fight with the Androids showed that one of them would not be willing to sit by and let serious harm come to the other, so unless 2 of them used the technique simultaneously it wouldn't work.
I’d say his greatest deed would be kill frieza & king cold (Future timeline) the tyrants terrorising the universe and blowing up planets for funnzy ya cell compared to frieza & buu is just a random bug man to the otherworld
@@alexandrostheodorou8387 I think that was the reason why I said "might have negated the pass" because I'm only theorizing which is all a fan can do, but then again I can't remember my thought process I posted that a year ago.
Would have been a cool little episode during the zamasu arc to have goku, vegeta, and trunks go to the after life and meet all the future warriors who passed away. Goku meeting heart virus goku and his awesome future son Gohan.
@@alexzero3736 The guy was saying that super retconned the evil containment wave to work on anybody instead of just demons. I pointed out that z retconned piccolo being a demon.
@@SenseiMoua maybe not.... 17 may have have tried to fight cell after absorbing 18 thus not giving krillin an opportunity to catch him off guard so super vegeta would have arrived to find perfect cell instead
I don't know if piccolo could take out both Android s by himself wasn't he also weaker in the future timeline cause they didn't know the androids would appear.
what if future Bulma had reprogrammed the baby cell to be a good guy and work with Trunks and they favor how would that change everything in the future
I LOVE ❤ THIS!!! NO overrated timeline and NO incoherent story of HOT (History of Trunks)!!! Honestly! Also this did save lord Beerus from creating a time ring and hating on Bulma's time machine. 👍
@@QaamansLand I love that you and Blackenfist have solved this big mystery/problems of Akira Toriyama unfathomable bad writing and logic for the HOT story. Also I bursted out of laugh at the ending of Gohan blowing up the entire earth. 🤣👌 great stuff man! While he, Trunks Bulma and Master Roshi gangs (if Gohan thinks they're still alive) are inside Bulma's capsule corp spaceship in space. And WAITING for the namekian to resurrect planet earth. Sorry for the long comment Quinn.
@@QaamansLand No no, I'm just referring purely power-scaling wise to the claim "for a short time Piccolo was the strongest character in the series due to his fusion".
Mike has probably covered it but the Z fighters trained for 3 years with Trunks warning but without it they dont become stronger. Piccolo’s training with Goku made him closer to the strength of a super saiyan as well.
An iconic pair like Jesse and James is a great way to show off the pair between 17 and 18 to anyone who recognizes that reference and tells what the video will contain in what timeframe, along with a customized thumbnail which signifies your content of course 👍
I don’t think Bulma lacking the resources to make a Gravity Chamber makes sense since she’s smart enough and able to make do with the resources in the future timeline to make a TIME MACHINE.
What up brother. Me again, I didn’t check your video yet but looks like it’s gonna be good. There’s plenty of ways in the dragon ball universe to kill certain villains without more power
@Qaaman, why is/would the HOT "Flashback" be any different from the actual Movie Special?... when the "Flashback" is simply how Trunks recollected those events.
@Qaaman, The Androids that fought the Future Z Fighters are AS STRONG as the ones that fought them in the present. The ONLY reason why they are "weaker in the future" is that their machine components degraded over time.. by the time Trunks fought them.
Loved the android saga but the future timeline is just a terminator reference which doesn't work since there are multiple ways that future could have been avoided
It’s very possible since both timelines fights in late Dragonball and early z were monitored and rated that the spybots monitored the evil containment reverse technique that piccolo used to seal kami so the androids would have data on that technique and could use it if future Gohan or trunks tried to use it
Watching this makes me think of another video topic I think that would be nice to analyze, what if Bulma was evil or decided to be a villain. Her intellectual knowledge to create things and counteract technology would be tremendously terrifying. Think about it Dr. Gero created the androids that turned out alone to be grave unstoppable threats. And Bulma recreated a remote to shut them down also other inventions like a time machine, blux waves (gt not cannon but still fcking cool) like she would be like a Zemo from Marvel. It's not strength or abilities that could make someone powerful it's their knowledge and strategy that could be the biggest threat.
It's mentioned in one of the episodes by Dende that people can only be brought back if they suffered an unnatural death. Death from a virus is a natural death. Not really sure Goku would have existed in the "physical" afterlife, or he would have been a free spirit. We never see Guru anywhere after his death, for example.
Evil containment wave you’d only have 2 threats realistically because future trunks forgot to bring something to seal zamasu in in the goku black arc so I wouldn’t rely on them
Yeah the whole future trunks timeline being apocalyptic is ridiculous. Where was King Kai? Was goku with king Kai? Why didn’t they try communicating with the gohan and bulma on earth? They’re just seeing earth get destroyed and sitting by?
Without Goku or kami they couldn't contact king Kai. The one day pass would probably just wind up with Goku dead again from the heart virus. Even if the heart virus didn't kill Goku again then he would rush in and die. Not train. kami and Goku gone there is no knowledge of the room of spirit and time. The gravity room wouldn't be enough. The only real option here is to give piccolo the one day pass and fuse with kami. However the Androids of the future were stated to be crueler and would jump him. If you tried the mafuba you would fail. The Androids would be able to take on Gohan and trunks to the point they couldn't attempt it. And master roshi would be one shot by the other Android if he pulled it off. Also trunks couldn't go super Saiyan till Gohan died and would also just get in the way. Also if one was caught the other could free them. And your last option has the same problem as other options. No contact with king Kai. They literally have no way to contact him.
@@SenseiMoua if you die of natural causes like the heart virus and are brought back with the dragon balls you die again. The one day pass might work the same way. We don't know.
@@QaamansLand tell me. If he could get king Kai to find namek, how would they get there. The space ships were all left on namek and capsule Corp got blown up. Multi resurrection takes two wishes and transportation takes one. They would be out of wishes just getting there. Also it took bulma years to build the time machine and it was small. The limit on multi resurrection is within a year. So by time they could get there without the dragon balls it would be to late.
@@QaamansLand there is one way. But it would take a long time. They can have kami ask king Kai to have a nemekian use the dragon balls and resurrect everyone then bring them to namek. Then wait a nemekian year and use the dragon balls again. But perunga can't take out the Androids. Goku was the only one strong enough to fight and would die again. I doubt the nemekians would want to move anymore than the z fighters to their planet. They wouldn't know about the blueprints to look for them. They would never resort to blowing up the planet. So this leaves the last option. Kami or Goku could tell Vegeta trunks and Gohan about the room of spirit and time. Most of the population of earth would still be dead. Goku would still be dead. And it would take longer than a year so no multi resurrection. Also cell would likely absorb the Androids while they are gone. After all when the time machine was built cell was strong enough to do so but had to resort to reverting to an egg to go back in time. If cell already absorbed the Androids, a high possibility, then they are doomed.
Goku died a natural death, because of this he'd be unable to ever come back or even retain a physical body in the otherworld. This makes your second point moot. Everything else I agree with.
All this is true. AT just wanted to create a reality where Goku survived really leading to our main timeline. Plus AT was under a lot of pressure at this time meeting deadlines to create chapters so I doubt he really gave it this much thought.
I've always wondered why Gohan and Bulma didn't seek out new Namek as they have 1st hand knowledge of its existence. Even if King Kai didn't contact them, Bulma and Gohan could've sought out Fortune teller Baba and she could've acted as a middleman to the other world. Or if her abilities powerful enough, she could've just located New Namek herself. But I don't think we know what she' was up to at the time. Its just something that has bugged me. Also, couldn't present Bulma give Trunks a capsule that has a spaceship. Or materials for a spaceship. He could've found out the location of new Namek from the current timeline. Assuming new Namek is in the same location of course. Because IIRC, its said that his traveling to the present has altered the time line. And since Cell had traveled back to a point before trunks, it could've altered the timeline. Although, I'm not sure if the new namek wish was made before or after cell traveled back.
Wouldn't earth new guardian take long travel back earth. Doesn't Android know techniques of some z fighters wouldn't just backfire. Do you we know Baba is dead trunks timeline.
@@QaamansLand the spy robots were able keep track some ability z fighters ability. They androids knew techniques and senzu beans. They only thing they didn't know were battle on Namek Wasn't king kai Instant transmission a filler thing?
The only one of these I can't see working is the New Namek one, for several reasons: 1. They'd have to build a new spaceship from scratch, and they may not have enough materials for that. 2. Even assuming they had enough, it would take a considerable amount of time to build, long enough for the androids to catch up to and kill them. 3. Even if they built it and got off world, it would still take a long time to get to and from New Namek, time the Androids would use to cause more destruction, so who knows what they'd even come back to.
The mafuba technique being able to be used on non demons retconnon happened a long time ago before super when we learned the demon king was just some alien not a demon
Would blowing up the Earth really work? Frieza seems confident he could easily survive a planet exploding. Doesn't King Cold even say something to the extent of "I tell you my son is not so easily destroyed as a planet exploding". That means Super Saiyans, as they are stronger then Frieza could also survive a planet explosion. Sure a saiyan may die in the vacuum of space due to no air to breath, but the actual planet exploding should not be able to kill them, right? And the Androids are even stronger then Super Saiyans. I guess we can question if 17 & 18 could survive in space or not since they are cyborgs, ot full on robots like 16 or 19. But if they can survive in space, then would blowing up the Earth actually accomplish anything?
@@QaamansLand One would think seeing they are human based, but then again we don't know of all the ways in which Gero enhanced them. We know they are super strong, fast, and have infinite energy. But does it really stop there?
Another video with Qaaman and blackenfist, lemme go break the like button ! Also I just have something to add towards what blackenfist said about piccolo being able to take out the androids if he fused with kami. You have to remember that the piccolo from the original timeline trained with gohan and a super Saiyajin goku for 3 years, he was already stronger than namek saga goku alone, when he fused with kami he reached android 17 level. So I’d say future piccolo would still lose to future android 17 regardless of him being fused with kami, I just think piccolo is gonna be significantly weaker since he did not do that 3 year training.
Well, if you ad 13 years of training plus fusing with Kami, there is no way Piccolo would lose. Just think of what 13 years of training can do. It allows you to push your body further and you can train with strong dead people for an eternity.
big fan!!! Can you do video on what if the sayins wish back enough sayins to rebuild their race iam not talking bout a whole planet just enough to live on earth and reproduce that way they would be good and also kinda like earth special forces it would make sense seeing how humans stand no chance even against the weakest of villains it ensures earth future and the races future in the long run if most humans end up with sayian dna over centuries it would make the average human more powerful as well it a win win situation I wanna know what do you think quman? In this scenario
How I love the fact that the very Androids/Cell/Zamasu Sagas created numerous plot holes pertaining to Trunks' own timeline. The best part is the last method: THE GODZILLA THRESHOLD.
I don’t think that future Piccolo fusing with Kami would’ve made him strong enough to take on the Androids. Yes the Future Androids were stated to be weaker than the main timeline Androidss however, Main timeline Piccolo was also likely much much stronger than his future counterpart even prior to fusing with Kami due to training with Goku and Gohan for 3 years which resulted in him going from being weaker than 3rd form Freeza to being comparable to a Super Saiyan.
2:20 piccollo trained hard for 3 years because he knew the androids were coming. So if piccollo did that with kami its not guaranteed that he would be stronger than the androids also he wasnt stronger in the timeline we see he was an equal match.
piccolo was already dead when future trunks and gohan fought the androids and it is because of trunks and telling them about the androids coming back piccolo decided to merge with kami but future goku coming back for a day might help
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17 And Friends well raid do pay a shit tons of money, and he need to support himself dude. Just skip the ad and hope the cancer would go away in the future
@@aflyingdorito208 I meant the video how dare they turn me and 18 into fucking Pokémon characters
Yo Qaaman, great to see some fresh content. Say I had a very interesting what if. What if Goku had landed on Beerus Planet instead of Yardrat? How drastically would this have changed things or do you think nothing would've really changed? Consider Goku telling Whis and Beerus he defeated Frieza. Your thoughts?
Crazy 6th Theory on how the Androids could've been defeated. What if Bulma engineered the Heart Virus to target them or find a way to infect them with it? Would this Virus work as they are still part human? Remember that the Earth's population was affected by it in Trunk's Timeline according to him before a cure was found. Who's to say the Androids didn't destroy that cure except for what Bulma had. If you think this is plausible I'd love to hear your thoughts.
The lack of communication from otherworld to Earth is baffling. Goku could've used King Kai, as he done before, to talk to Gohan.
Agree, but don't forget the timing. 13 years!?!?!
@@QaamansLand even a year would be too long since Goku has been to Kings Kai's planet already. Plus, he now has instant transmission. Anything longer than a Day would be highly unbelievable
It's been established that one doesn't keep their body and ethier enters their final resting place or reincarnates if one dies of natural causes. Goku cannot come back in Trunk's timeline.
@@finaloblivion799 You don't keep your body normally in dragonball if you die for any reason. An exception was made for Goku before due to all the good he did while alive the first time and the second time he died in main timeline. Why wouldn't that apply for his second death in the future timeline?
Goku Black Because if anyone dies a natural death they don’t get a heavenly body. Ever wonder why only warriors have their bodies in the afterlife.
18: Prepare for trouble!
17: And make it double!
18: To protect the world from devastation!
17: To unite all peoples from within our nation!
18: To denounce the evils of truth and love!
17: To extend our reach to the stars above!
18: Android 18!
17: Android 17!
18: Red Ribbon Army leaving you trembling from fright!
17: Surrender now or prepare to fight!
16: LET US PROCEED IN KILLING SON GOKU!
Shouldn't 17 say his name first? Unless you are just keeping it male/female james/jessie
That's freaking hilarious, using the Team Rocket motto! 🤣🤣🤣
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I heard 16 in TFS voice lol
*people....to unite all people
*a new character gets introduced*
Me: So where are they in future trunk's timeline?!?!?
What do you mean?
@@QaamansLand he probably means if a new character gets introduce in the main timeline where was they in the future but their is multiverse
i mean where are they, what are they doing, does things that happen in the main timeline happen in the future timeline like some examples, beerus waking up to fight the super saiyan god, champa going to universe 7 to look for the dragon balls, moro breaking out of prison. the frieza remnants going to earth to use the dragon balls to resurrect him, tarble landing on earth in age 776, does broly stay on his planet forever, what happens to jaco, what happens to tights, what happens to ginyu, etc..
@@MasterFalkner well DBS fuck that all up with the ending of the Goku black arc
i thought about this a few days ago in the future timeline you have this Galactic king, king of the milky way galaxy (which earth is in) and you have his galactic patrol, and you have jaco with i think tight's contacts. at some point you'd think the galactic patrol would see what's happening on earth and do something about it.
I’ve got to say 18 looks good in that Team Rocket outfit. Though I still prefer her classic outfit.
18 has like 5 classic outfits LOL. I assume you mean the blue jacket one?
Qaaman Yes I mean the blue jacket. My apologies I sometimes forget she has more than one classic outfit.
I like 17 way more in the TR outfit personally. All of 18’s outfits are too damn good.
I think we could all agree her best outfit is the one she doesn't put on 😏
Prepare for trouble!
And make it double!
To protect the world from devastation!
To unite all peoples within our nation!
To denounce the evils of truth and love!
To extend our reach to the stars above!
Android18!
Android 17!
Team Rocket blasts off at the speed of light!
Surrender now, or prepare to fight!
Meowth!
That's right!
I always found it so weird that the namekian dragon balls were just completely forgotten about in the future trunks timeline
The Piccollo that fused with Kame had previously trained in preparation of the androids. Piccollo from trunks timeline didnt have any prep or training so future super nemek piccollo might have been significantly weaker than the one we saw in Z.
While that is true he would be training just to train and according to trucks the present androids were stronger than his future androids
I think it would have equaled out
Also, while Piccolo was slightly stronger than 17, it's not clear that he would win against 17 and 18 together.
Seems like everyone forgets about King Yemma. In the buu arc he sends vegeta back to prevent the mass deaths due to buu. He doesn't act often but can send aid when needed
The difference is Vegeta wouldn't have even been needed here plus Future Vegeta had even less good deeds under his belt so I doubt King Yemma would have even entertained the idea. Not to mention Buu was threatening the universe not just Earth.
As much as I love the Cell saga - it's sadly the best example of Toriyama having 0 clue how to handle all hax he created. In order to create tension he just forgets about them all which creates plot holes.
Which hax did you dislike?
@@QaamansLand One that I dislike the most is probably lack of communication with Kaio-sama. But Future Gohan being so weak despite Zenkai boost being so overpowered in Freeza saga also bothers me a lot.
It's really shame to me because I have very unpopular opinion of liking 17 and 18 as villains more than I like Freeza (despite not having anything against Freeza). It's sad that most of the tension coming from them is created by really bad writing.
Only person that communicated with kaio is goku. And lots of bad things happened on earth without him knowing because he had moved on.
It's also possible.goku went through reincarnation in this continuity because he died of natural causes.
@@DSan-kl2yc It's Kaio who "calls" them, not the other way around. And for example Kami talked to Kaio too. He also talked to somebody (Bulma?) about wishes at the end of Namek Saga.
@@Reality-Distortion kaio didn't know anything happening on earth till goku goes there. Goku is his main pupil. And the one he stays in touchm and it was goku that started talking to kaiosama during the freeza fight.
It's not that he doesn't have the ability to, it's that he doesn't look and has no reason to do so.
The freeza fight too was something he witnessed because he followed goku.
You're trying to say something is illogical when it isn't.
Kami died a long time ago in that timeline.
And the Android's weren't even a galaxy wide/universal quadrant threat which is his job.
Protecting the earth isn't. His main connection to the earth is Goku.
Did “super” ever address the fact that Roshi, Turtle, Oolong, Puar, Chi Chi, and Ox King are still alive in the “future” timeline. Why didn’t anyone check up on them when Vegeta, Goku, and Bulma joined Trunks in the future
Earl McGee I killed them
@@BDT27 Killing Turtle eh... You hurt nature, guess i still get to waste a Goku.
I wouldn't put it passed Toriyama to forget they even exist.
Goku Black Are you sure? We didn’t see it...
Toriyama forgot alot when he wrote future trunks scenario theres almost no way it shoulda went like that tbh even if we say fck all the plot holes gohans potential alone shoulda been enough from where he was as a kid and knowing that all his fights from then on left him near death and his rage boosts shoulda zenkiad him past the androids shit to me he woulda unlocked ss2
I've always wondered what if Gohan had a kid with anybody in the future, doesn't have to be Videl, and if Trunks did the same, doesn't have to be Mai, if that would've helped evened the score any.
Depends. How much time passes?
@@QaamansLand since Gohan was most likely in his early to mid 20s in the HOT movie I'd say a few days to a few weeks before his death. As for Trunks, if it's the timeline where he killed the cyborgs after returning from the past, then it doesn't matter too much when it happened. Just depends on the timeline really.
Them being stronger than SSJ still doesn’t make sense considering Gero didn’t know about SSJ another example of bad writing
Yeah at best the Androids should be like Ginyu force level..
Hell Android 8 is like Mountain level.
And yet 8 models later Gero created weapons of mass destruction that could slap super sayains.
Also love your profile pic.
Too Superior 2.0 yeah they should at least be saiyan saga level he didn’t go on namek
Thanks lolll
@@superior2096 What do you mean by mountain level?
@@QaamansLand I mean he could smash through mountains at best.
I don't mean could lift em or anything.
Of course it's silly. Freeza's Empire had some of the best scientists in the galaxy. They made Freeza a cyborg and he barely got any stronger from his 120 million base. Dr. Gero, took 2 human orphans with a base power of around 1 and made them able to bitch slap the guy who easily crushed Freeza. It's ridiculous.
I was curious if the Androids have to breathe oxygen if so I would take the mafuba with them inside teleport them to a far-off planet
That sounds like punishment...
That makes me think that Future Gohan could have easily survived and kept his arm 😭
I could die in happiness if somebody can do team rocket dialogues with 17 18
17 & 18 actually look great wearing Team Rocket outfits. Especially with the big red R on it
I Could never wrap my head around how Goku/Vegeta weren’t strong enough to punch through any material some scientists could make on earth🌍
I mean it's likely the androids are using their ki to act as a shield.
@@nubreed13 I'm pretty sure your right, since a weak laser can kill Goku if he's not paying attention
@@great159 Its a shield made of Ki
Technology on earth has always been ahead of any alien technology we’ve seen in the series, with the exception of space travel prior to the Saiyans. But we see the briefs design the most advanced technology it would only be right that someone who equaled dr brief could build something like that.
wasnt Piccolo from the main time line stronger than the one from the future time line due to the extra training after being informed of future events? so even if future Piccolo fused with Kami he still might not have been strong enough to take down both 17 & 18 even though they were weaker in the future and given the differences in their attitude doubtful they would take turns in that fight.
There is a flaw in your second theory. That flaw is that One Day Pass Goku had during the Buu Saga most likely would not have happened in the Future Trunks Timeline. The only reason Goku got that pass was to Participate in the then revived Worlds Martial Arts Tournament. Otherwise that would've never happened. Looking at the Future Trunks Saga they weren't holding any Tournament nor were they going to due to the state of the World caused by the devastation of the Androids. Now that doesn't mean that it couldn't happen. Baba & the Kai's, or whoever has that authority could've still granted Goku & other Z fighters a pass in the future timeline. However, think about it, the Planet had been suffering for years before the future Androids were finally defeated. Baba & everyone else in otherworld sat there & watched everyone suffer. What makes anyone think they wouldn't all of the sudden had a change of heart?
These are gods they can make an exception.
Ofcourse they can..that's how they granted vegeta another chance to go and fight since he was told that he was their strongest fighter
I'm not saying these aren't possibilities. I'm just saying its highly unlikely given how everything has played out in the current & future timelines.
It's actually baba that gives him a pass. And she gave one to grandpa Gohan before. They technically don't even need king kai for it.
Roshi or anyone can get in contact with her, and she can get in contact with the spirits.
Unless she also died
Also Goku died a natural death. Dying a natural death eliminates your ability to be revived or retain a body in the afterlife.
Just another instance of “Cause Toriyama said so” lol. also whats your outro music? it sounds familiar
Prepare for trouble and make it double
To destroy the world with devastation.
@@QaamansLand To unite all nations with mechanical wastes
@@LordYamcha To denounce the good with lies and hate.
@@QaamansLand Jesse...James
@@KameronDAaron Lapis... Lazuli
That last part makes sense.
Even if Kaiosama didn’t keep in touch with Gorham like he did with Goku, I see the scenario where Gohan meets Yemma, is allowed to go to Kaiosama’s planet via Snake Way. I’m sure Kaio would understand Gohan & communicate with New Namek (or take him there since he know teleportation apparently) to wish for his planet, friends & family back.
You should do a what if Future Gohan destroyed the earth to defeat the androids.
“Gorham” 🤣
Well, if Gohan destroyed the Earth.. He couldn't live because Saiyans can't breathe in space.
#6 Using logic to make their heads explode. I got that one from Futurama. *is big brained*
18 lookin THICC in that team rocket outfit
Really? She looks THINN to me.
@@QaamansLand Still hot AF!
Peter Parker yeah she’s very thicc asf nd it’s hot
One thing I remembered, Piccolo in the main timeline fused with Kami had trained with Goku and Gotham leading up to the Androids’ arrival. I wouldn’t think that the future Piccolo would suddenly stop training but he might not have trained as vigorously and in return not be as strong as the main timeline version of himself
Best question is where were Goku and the other Z fighters after they died? Goku loves chilling at King Kai’s and he could have set a plan up after seeing the z fighters die. Why didn’t a single z fighter do anything? Why did Babadi wait to visit earth? Why didn’t he visit and supreme Kai snuff out the androids? Dabura could have killed the androids to. Remember Mr PoPo is faster and as at least as strong as ssj2 goten/trunks. Why didn’t he ever properly train anyone?
The idea of blowing up the earth to do it is amazing plotwise actually, as it could change Gohan into a "end justify the means mindset" and lead him into becoming evil or punisher like
I’m mean piccolo essentially did this in the buu arc by telling buu to kill everyone human on the planet it distracted him for about 1 second
Damn if King Kai stayed in contact with them. A lot of the Androids destruction could’ve been avoided
Question was number 5 reasoning because we don’t know for sure if the androids can breath in space ? Or u don’t think they have planet level durability?
They are human based and still need oxygen. Why wouldn't they?
Qaaman cuz uk if remember during the cell saga when he was blowing up the island looking for 18 18 asked 16 if he could go under water or she at least thought about it but it 16 was to badly injured
@@bobjr8519 Well those are to very different thing 18 could just take breath after swim flying to other side of the planet but space well they’re going to run out of air eventually
10:35 Qaaman: And there are no flaws with this plan.
Me: You forgot cell would be revived since they didn’t know about him
If all the androids are gone why would Cell be there?
Qaaman I figured he’d be in that timeline still looking for them even if they’re dead (Just like what happened after Trunks killed the androids) so hopefully whoever is alive at the time can take on Cell
Luis Suazo If they only said the words “Androids” then yes it would include Cell. But if they specifically said “Android 17 and 18” then Cell will be around. Just depends how they word it
Luis Suazo But if they said the word “Androids” Wouldn’t that also count for Android 8 who is still alive too?
If the plot holes dont exist or gohan nd trunks gets proper zenkais theyd smoke cell hed be weak
What if Beerus destroyed the Earth in Battle of Gods?
Works
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The only issue I have with these is the One Day Pass and the Mafuba. First Goku's good deeds accumulated also involved most likely his biggest deed which was saving the entirety of Earth from being blown up by Cell, which wouldn't have happened in that timeline, plus the fact that in Trunks' timeline he died from natural causes, which might have negated the pass all together.
And from what I remember The Evil Containment Wave could only be used on one person at a time and I think the Future Gohan final fight with the Androids showed that one of them would not be willing to sit by and let serious harm come to the other, so unless 2 of them used the technique simultaneously it wouldn't work.
I’d say his greatest deed would be kill frieza & king cold (Future timeline) the tyrants terrorising the universe and blowing up planets for funnzy ya cell compared to frieza & buu is just a random bug man to the otherworld
Goku when he got killed by Piccolo, was allowed to keep his body. Why wouldn’t he be allowed to do so due to heart virus death.
@@alexandrostheodorou8387 I think that was the reason why I said "might have negated the pass" because I'm only theorizing which is all a fan can do, but then again I can't remember my thought process I posted that a year ago.
Would have been a cool little episode during the zamasu arc to have goku, vegeta, and trunks go to the after life and meet all the future warriors who passed away. Goku meeting heart virus goku and his awesome future son Gohan.
8:15 actually Z retconned it with the unavailing of Demon king piccolo being a namekian instead of a demon.
Z not retconned anything, it the same manga. Separation exists in anime only.
@@alexzero3736 What?
@@limptoast what what...Piccolo and Kami even spoken alien language during 23rd tournament. DBZ is not a retconn.
@@alexzero3736 The guy was saying that super retconned the evil containment wave to work on anybody instead of just demons. I pointed out that z retconned piccolo being a demon.
Hey Qaaman. What if cell absorbed Android 18 first instead of 17? Would he look like semi perfect cell or a different form?
No difference.
Spooky799kil probably look the same but he would stay in that form since krillian would actually use the remote to shut down 17
@@SenseiMoua maybe not.... 17 may have have tried to fight cell after absorbing 18 thus not giving krillin an opportunity to catch him off guard so super vegeta would have arrived to find perfect cell instead
george mendez that could happen but he knew he wouldn’t stand a chance because he easily like 1 or 2 shotted a weaken piccolo
Probably the same. Or just change all the orange colors with blue or white. Colors associated wirh 18
You should do a video on fixing Dragon Ball plot holes, it'd be interesting
How can they destroy the earth when Saiyans can’t breathe in space? So hogan will have to die too?
Future gohan had one hand. Hard to do fusion dance
Good... point...
Just use the dragon ball to wish Gohan his arm back
@@lhp8945 i believe at that time piccolo/ "forgot his name" were dead already so there was no more dragon balls left on earth
I don't know if piccolo could take out both Android s by himself wasn't he also weaker in the future timeline cause they didn't know the androids would appear.
He could using method 3: improved training
Gamer Fanatic you have to mention he would be training for those 13 years. Which I would 100% believe he can take out atleast 1 of them without fusing
Team Rocket 17 and 18 need to be costumes in Xenoverse or Fighterz
So pokemon can sue them? Lol
@@QaamansLand Bandai or Arcsys can always ask them. I know it'll never happen but still
Team Rocket 17 & 18 goes pretty hard. They both lookin like a snack.
the fact that bulma didn't contact Jaco was stupidity
merus would easily destroy them
Angel = Neutrality?
@@QaamansLand okay but nobody knows about him and he is strong even when he became a mortal
Please make an updated alternate timeline theory including DBS
what if future Bulma had reprogrammed the baby cell to be a good guy and work with Trunks and they favor how would that change everything in the future
I LOVE ❤ THIS!!! NO overrated timeline and NO incoherent story of HOT (History of Trunks)!!! Honestly! Also this did save lord Beerus from creating a time ring and hating on Bulma's time machine. 👍
What exactly do you love? Please explain.
@@QaamansLand I love that you and Blackenfist have solved this big mystery/problems of Akira Toriyama unfathomable bad writing and logic for the HOT story. Also I bursted out of laugh at the ending of Gohan blowing up the entire earth. 🤣👌 great stuff man!
While he, Trunks Bulma and Master Roshi gangs (if Gohan thinks they're still alive) are inside Bulma's capsule corp spaceship in space. And WAITING for the namekian to resurrect planet earth. Sorry for the long comment Quinn.
Kamiccolo right after fusion was second strongest. The strongest was #16.
But 16 doesn't exist in the future so why is that important?
@@QaamansLand No no, I'm just referring purely power-scaling wise to the claim "for a short time Piccolo was the strongest character in the series due to his fusion".
Mike has probably covered it but the Z fighters trained for 3 years with Trunks warning but without it they dont become stronger. Piccolo’s training with Goku made him closer to the strength of a super saiyan as well.
Wow that’s an awesome thumbnail Qaaman keep doing what makes you happy and take care! 👍💪
Thanks. What do you like about it?
An iconic pair like Jesse and James is a great way to show off the pair between 17 and 18 to anyone who recognizes that reference and tells what the video will contain in what timeframe, along with a customized thumbnail which signifies your content of course 👍
Option 6: Gohan seduces Android 18 like he did Bulma 😎😏
How would he do this...
@@QaamansLand "You wanna see my Masenko?"
@@LupeJustinian What would she say??
@@QaamansLand "Oh, is that a new outfit?" Gohan: "No, but it will be all over you..." 🤢🤢🤢
@@QaamansLand Android 18: "Sorry, too tall, too much hair!" *Blasts him*
More Quaaman content! YES!!
I don’t think Bulma lacking the resources to make a Gravity Chamber makes sense since she’s smart enough and able to make do with the resources in the future timeline to make a TIME MACHINE.
What up brother. Me again, I didn’t check your video yet but looks like it’s gonna be good. There’s plenty of ways in the dragon ball universe to kill certain villains without more power
Thanks. Let me know what you think. I'm curious why you're so confident
With the ability to wish there’s so many loop holes we could use! Imagine just making a wish like “I wish my enemy’s heart stopped pumping”
The one day pass part blew my mind. Never thought of this.
@Qaaman, why is/would the HOT "Flashback" be any different from the actual Movie Special?... when the "Flashback" is simply how Trunks recollected those events.
There are key changes. Trunks and Gohan fought the androids together whereas in the tv special gohan fought alone
That last theory would actually work considering that piccolo suggested that majin buu do the same thing. Some what.
Blowing up earth?
yaaayyy bonus round!! =D
@Qaaman, The Androids that fought the Future Z Fighters are AS STRONG as the ones that fought them in the present. The ONLY reason why they are "weaker in the future" is that their machine components degraded over time.. by the time Trunks fought them.
That is totally untrue. There was no mention of degrading overtime and Gohan never closed the gap.
I really like number 4 but something tells me that cell would still appear ambush gohan and trunks break the seal and absorb the androids
Loved the android saga but the future timeline is just a terminator reference which doesn't work since there are multiple ways that future could have been avoided
It’s very possible since both timelines fights in late Dragonball and early z were monitored and rated that the spybots monitored the evil containment reverse technique that piccolo used to seal kami so the androids would have data on that technique and could use it if future Gohan or trunks tried to use it
prepare for trouble
make it double
Keep going... Finish lol
If time travel upsets the Kais, they really won't appreciate mortals queue-hopping their way into Heaven.
look, buddy..... logic like this just nukes the story line!
How so
Watching this makes me think of another video topic I think that would be nice to analyze, what if Bulma was evil or decided to be a villain. Her intellectual knowledge to create things and counteract technology would be tremendously terrifying. Think about it Dr. Gero created the androids that turned out alone to be grave unstoppable threats. And Bulma recreated a remote to shut them down also other inventions like a time machine, blux waves (gt not cannon but still fcking cool) like she would be like a Zemo from Marvel. It's not strength or abilities that could make someone powerful it's their knowledge and strategy that could be the biggest threat.
It's mentioned in one of the episodes by Dende that people can only be brought back if they suffered an unnatural death. Death from a virus is a natural death. Not really sure Goku would have existed in the "physical" afterlife, or he would have been a free spirit. We never see Guru anywhere after his death, for example.
Evil containment wave you’d only have 2 threats realistically because future trunks forgot to bring something to seal zamasu in in the goku black arc so I wouldn’t rely on them
Yeah the whole future trunks timeline being apocalyptic is ridiculous. Where was King Kai? Was goku with king Kai? Why didn’t they try communicating with the gohan and bulma on earth? They’re just seeing earth get destroyed and sitting by?
Without Goku or kami they couldn't contact king Kai. The one day pass would probably just wind up with Goku dead again from the heart virus. Even if the heart virus didn't kill Goku again then he would rush in and die. Not train. kami and Goku gone there is no knowledge of the room of spirit and time. The gravity room wouldn't be enough. The only real option here is to give piccolo the one day pass and fuse with kami. However the Androids of the future were stated to be crueler and would jump him. If you tried the mafuba you would fail. The Androids would be able to take on Gohan and trunks to the point they couldn't attempt it. And master roshi would be one shot by the other Android if he pulled it off. Also trunks couldn't go super Saiyan till Gohan died and would also just get in the way. Also if one was caught the other could free them. And your last option has the same problem as other options. No contact with king Kai. They literally have no way to contact him.
Kami would be in the afterlife. Are you saying he would have nothing to say at all?
kyle anderson wait what? Wouldn’t he be fine since he is already died?
@@SenseiMoua if you die of natural causes like the heart virus and are brought back with the dragon balls you die again. The one day pass might work the same way. We don't know.
@@QaamansLand tell me. If he could get king Kai to find namek, how would they get there. The space ships were all left on namek and capsule Corp got blown up. Multi resurrection takes two wishes and transportation takes one. They would be out of wishes just getting there. Also it took bulma years to build the time machine and it was small. The limit on multi resurrection is within a year. So by time they could get there without the dragon balls it would be to late.
@@QaamansLand there is one way. But it would take a long time. They can have kami ask king Kai to have a nemekian use the dragon balls and resurrect everyone then bring them to namek. Then wait a nemekian year and use the dragon balls again. But perunga can't take out the Androids. Goku was the only one strong enough to fight and would die again. I doubt the nemekians would want to move anymore than the z fighters to their planet. They wouldn't know about the blueprints to look for them. They would never resort to blowing up the planet. So this leaves the last option. Kami or Goku could tell Vegeta trunks and Gohan about the room of spirit and time. Most of the population of earth would still be dead. Goku would still be dead. And it would take longer than a year so no multi resurrection. Also cell would likely absorb the Androids while they are gone. After all when the time machine was built cell was strong enough to do so but had to resort to reverting to an egg to go back in time. If cell already absorbed the Androids, a high possibility, then they are doomed.
If Gohan blows up the planet, then 17 and 18 will still be there.
floating in the massive expanse of space. they cant sense ki. wish earth back someplace else in the galaxy and they will NEVER find it
Goku died a natural death, because of this he'd be unable to ever come back or even retain a physical body in the otherworld. This makes your second point moot. Everything else I agree with.
That isn’t true he died from a heart virus
I couldn't stop laughing when Vegeta being in hell forever was mentioned.
I love the last way. xD So natural, I feel. Desperates times desperates measures.
Universe Q got erased by Zeno?
yay more qaaman plz and yo blackenfist my dude good to see you bro
Your timing is impeccable
How Mr. Kenobi
Qaaman it’s general kenobi but that’s ok. And I just walked in my door looking for a TH-cam video to watch.
What if Majin Buu,Piccolo and Gotenks never found a way to get out of the hyperbolic time chamber?
Buu wins?
Buu kill them. From outside Z Fighters revive them and take them out using the Balls leaving Buu living in the Chamber for ever
Phantom Zero so they can't use the time chamber knowingly Buu is there?
thats a really good video, an angle im sure alot of us havent thought about.
Team red rocket sounds neat
All this is true. AT just wanted to create a reality where Goku survived really leading to our main timeline. Plus AT was under a lot of pressure at this time meeting deadlines to create chapters so I doubt he really gave it this much thought.
I've always wondered why Gohan and Bulma didn't seek out new Namek as they have 1st hand knowledge of its existence. Even if King Kai didn't contact them, Bulma and Gohan could've sought out Fortune teller Baba and she could've acted as a middleman to the other world. Or if her abilities powerful enough, she could've just located New Namek herself. But I don't think we know what she' was up to at the time. Its just something that has bugged me. Also, couldn't present Bulma give Trunks a capsule that has a spaceship. Or materials for a spaceship. He could've found out the location of new Namek from the current timeline. Assuming new Namek is in the same location of course. Because IIRC, its said that his traveling to the present has altered the time line. And since Cell had traveled back to a point before trunks, it could've altered the timeline. Although, I'm not sure if the new namek wish was made before or after cell traveled back.
That’s pretty funny as them as team rocket.
Wouldn't earth new guardian take long travel back earth. Doesn't Android know techniques of some z fighters wouldn't just backfire. Do you we know Baba is dead trunks timeline.
What techniques? With Help from King Kai they can use Instant transmission. Baba is immortal and can hide in otherworld.
@@QaamansLand the spy robots were able keep track some ability z fighters ability. They androids knew techniques and senzu beans. They only thing they didn't know were battle on Namek Wasn't king kai Instant transmission a filler thing?
Goku had a one day pass because of Baba. If Baba is dead no one comes back.
Great video still through all these years
The only one of these I can't see working is the New Namek one, for several reasons:
1. They'd have to build a new spaceship from scratch, and they may not have enough materials for that.
2. Even assuming they had enough, it would take a considerable amount of time to build, long enough for the androids to catch up to and kill them.
3. Even if they built it and got off world, it would still take a long time to get to and from New Namek, time the Androids would use to cause more destruction, so who knows what they'd even come back to.
The mafuba technique being able to be used on non demons retconnon happened a long time ago before super when we learned the demon king was just some alien not a demon
Would blowing up the Earth really work?
Frieza seems confident he could easily survive a planet exploding. Doesn't King Cold even say something to the extent of "I tell you my son is not so easily destroyed as a planet exploding".
That means Super Saiyans, as they are stronger then Frieza could also survive a planet explosion. Sure a saiyan may die in the vacuum of space due to no air to breath, but the actual planet exploding should not be able to kill them, right?
And the Androids are even stronger then Super Saiyans.
I guess we can question if 17 & 18 could survive in space or not since they are cyborgs, ot full on robots like 16 or 19. But if they can survive in space, then would blowing up the Earth actually accomplish anything?
What they still need to breath right?
@@QaamansLand One would think seeing they are human based, but then again we don't know of all the ways in which Gero enhanced them. We know they are super strong, fast, and have infinite energy. But does it really stop there?
I don't like the blowing up earth thing but it makes the most logical sense.
Another video with Qaaman and blackenfist, lemme go break the like button !
Also I just have something to add towards what blackenfist said about piccolo being able to take out the androids if he fused with kami. You have to remember that the piccolo from the original timeline trained with gohan and a super Saiyajin goku for 3 years, he was already stronger than namek saga goku alone, when he fused with kami he reached android 17 level. So I’d say future piccolo would still lose to future android 17 regardless of him being fused with kami, I just think piccolo is gonna be significantly weaker since he did not do that 3 year training.
Well, if you ad 13 years of training plus fusing with Kami, there is no way Piccolo would lose. Just think of what 13 years of training can do. It allows you to push your body further and you can train with strong dead people for an eternity.
Qaaman oh man I had totally forgot to consider the 13 years he was dead lol Ight you got me on this one, good video bro.
big fan!!! Can you do video on what if the sayins wish back enough sayins to rebuild their race iam not talking bout a whole planet just enough to live on earth and reproduce that way they would be good and also kinda like earth special forces it would make sense seeing how humans stand no chance even against the weakest of villains it ensures earth future and the races future in the long run if most humans end up with sayian dna over centuries it would make the average human more powerful as well it a win win situation I wanna know what do you think quman? In this scenario
How I love the fact that the very Androids/Cell/Zamasu Sagas created numerous plot holes pertaining to Trunks' own timeline.
The best part is the last method: THE GODZILLA THRESHOLD.
I don’t think that future Piccolo fusing with Kami would’ve made him strong enough to take on the Androids. Yes the Future Androids were stated to be weaker than the main timeline Androidss however, Main timeline Piccolo was also likely much much stronger than his future counterpart even prior to fusing with Kami due to training with Goku and Gohan for 3 years which resulted in him going from being weaker than 3rd form Freeza to being comparable to a Super Saiyan.
Never understood why king kai said "Fuck these niggas yall on yo own now." 💀💀
2:20 piccollo trained hard for 3 years because he knew the androids were coming. So if piccollo did that with kami its not guaranteed that he would be stronger than the androids also he wasnt stronger in the timeline we see he was an equal match.
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piccolo was already dead when future trunks and gohan fought the androids and it is because of trunks and telling them about the androids coming back piccolo decided to merge with kami but future goku coming back for a day might help
Me: aaaa 18~
Qaaman: walks in
Me: ....
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Me: *THIS IS A RAID SHADOW LEGENDS AD RAID SHADOW LEGEND IS AN EPIC GAME*
destroy earth is a good idea if everything in history of trunks exist in dragon ball gt timeframe
So I always wondered....since the Namekian Dragon Balls are stronger/more effective...could they wish back Goku???
Yes
Tye Dubose wow just all hope forfeited with lack of memory