DO NOT "TURN" YOUR HIPS WHEN PUNCHING ❌ here's why.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 เม.ย. 2022
- DONT "TURN" YOUR HIP ❌
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If I asked you to extend your left arm out, wouldn't consider it a jab? The different is knowing what proper muscled to move and how to move them properly (biomechanics) and intent.
@@thebangkoklion7654 I know you are trying to help new guys maybe. But you do realise that your entire video literally does nothing to help anyone right? Plus now you say that - left punch is a jab. Yes it is. Nobody learns the entire mechanism from the start.
All you had to show was the basic stance, and the movement + where the power comes from. The power comes from the legs, then hips, then it gets transferred to the fists. It's all on the rotation.
Repetition teaches the body itself. And once you have practiced one single move enough number of times, you will automatically start improvising and improving it little by little, that too unconsciously most of the times. Knowing which muscles to move is all well and good, but when someone is starting out, or has no experience in combat, then that person will never be able to feel which muscles are moving in which movement. You just gotta teach them the proper way to do that movement. The body itself adapts and then the person will himself realize as to what is going on. This happens only after a certain number of repetitions, not from the very start.
Maybe try to watch my very latest video and maybe that will help string things together for you. THIS is video focused on a very specific teaching method.
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Currently recovering from a pinched nerve in my lower back due wrongly turning my hip. That's makes so much sense to imagine a boxing glove there. Thanks for the advice!
You're welcome. Hope you recover soon. I had a pinched nerve 2 years ago, L4, L5 compression. What was urs?
@@thebangkoklion7654 Thanks. I think it's sciatica for me.
I think ive done the same my left joints on the back hurt like hell
@@Bithe_Get ah hope you recover fast, these things are no joke
@@thebangkoklion7654why do you think you had a pinched nerve?
Turning your hip ❌
Throwing your hip with that punch ✅
throwing lol you can't just disattach your limbs
@@receptionblcp6463you clearly have single digit IQ.
It’s actually a great lesson.
In short, the hips start the punch. Don’t chase the punch with your hips.
It’s literally the Same, it’s just faster bro
It's a teaching method... some beginners cannot fully understand the biomechanics of punching, so as a coach it's our job to make sure to simplify how to teach lesson. It's the same as I can say extend your left arm but it won't necessarily be a jab right? So you need to explain how to snap it.
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yeaaaah....and this wasn't the point of the video so perhaps wasn't focusing on it but the young guy hesitating before fully committing to the punch on the 2nd
@@thebangkoklion7654 Well, man, you begin with basics and the purest basic is that punch starts from your foot not hip. When you imagine you punch with your hip you tend to forget about your foot and that's more karate than boxing punch.
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Turning your hip ❌
Turning your hip, but saying it a different way ✅
It's a teaching method... some beginners cannot fully understand the biomechanics of punching, so as a coach it's our job to make sure to simplify how to teach lesson. It's the same as I can say extend your left arm but it won't necessarily be a jab right? So you need to explain how to snap it.
How do you "throw" your hip - by turning it, what a ridiculous semantic argument
Yes but my point is that that one can simply turn their hips without knowing how to put force or snap to it. It's like saying how do you walk fast = by walking, but there's a difference. This is not a semantic argument but an approach to different ways to teaching as not everyone has the same learning curve.
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Just simply relax your hip and allow the snap to happen. Keep them hips loose is all especially if it's a may thai stance and you have to avoid takedowns
Holy shit. The change in power was actually kinda big. This is good stuff. Thank you sir.
You're welcome, I'm glad it worked for you
Toes, foot arch, leg, hip, shoulder, elbow, fist. SNAP it
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What?
F, I needed that right now
I would add that you don’t need to worry slowing down your hip to where your upper body can move at the same time, you can actually move the hip as fast as you want and the elastic forces of the muscles and tendons of your torso will actually force your upper body to catch up, making for a very powerful “whipping” action. You can see this with some fighters in slow mo like Alex Pereira’s left hook, where the hip leads and the the upperbody catches up.
Unfortunately in my 17 years of bring s coach, there has been some beginner's who's body coordination is poor and they don't understand the kinetic chain. You'd think that by simple doing that action, that everything will come into place but unfortunately not. A coach's joh is to provide a clear and concise instructions even if it means using the simplest layman's terms
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@@thebangkoklion7654 nice! I get what you mean. It can take a while to build enough kinesthetic awareness to make these kind of adjustments. Do you find giving students too much information too early just confuses them?
@@thebangkoklion7654 nice! I think I remember reading the stamping out the cigarette thing in Jack Dempsey’s book back in the day. I never seen the bottle one though, that’s a good one!
Every student has a different learning curve, if the student is a fast learner and gets basic principles easy then I don't mind explaining it early on but if it's the other way around I try to reword some stuff and play by feel.
Thank you this tip was amazing!
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Thank you
Bro just dropped a bombshell upon us all!
Thanks for this one
Facts! Intent is everything
thank you
Great tip. It is hard to get kids to understand that it has to be a violent move with the hips.
Thank you
Same thing 😂
Let me ask you this. If I told you to simply extend your left or lead arm, would that be called a jab? Anyone can "turn their hip" but without internet and biomechanics then it doesn't really work
Well, I am not sure what was being said here. Are you saying to not use the hips when you punch. If so, then, well, that is just falt out wrong. But maybe you are not saying that.
The elements of hitting involve a tradeoff between power and positioning. "Turning" the hips (in fact weightchanging), not only puts your body weight into a punch but also changes your body position.
There are two basic things to consider here, siting on our punches and using the contraleteral shoulder to produce power:
1. Sitting on a punch. In this case, in this video, the student needs to begin by bending his knees more. If he bends his knees, he will be able to put his body weight - through the hips - into the punch, which involves "turning" the hips. You can't shift your body weight effectively unless you shift your weight through your hips as you move your body weight from one leg to the other, whether you are going forward for backward.
There are four basic hip/hand positions in, say, a right foot forward stance: i) right hand punching, right hip weighting/moving/advancing forward onto the right foot ii) left hand punching with right hip weighting/moving/advancing forward on the right foot iii) right hand punching with left hip weighting/moving/retreating back towards the left (rear) foot iv) left hand punching with the left hip weighting/moving/retreating back towards the left/rear foot.
These four "positions" are mirrored on the left side with left hand and foot forward.
This use of body weight is very important bcs it helps us avoid arm-punching. At first, these hip movements seem very large and a bit clumsy, but ofc with practise they become so small that a lay person can scarcely even see them. They become like a hip-flick. This is very important if we are going to generate power at close quarters.
2. Contralateral rotation (e.g. if you hit with your right hand, you pull back with your left shoulder, kind of like starting a lawnmower). This is one of the most neglected aspects of hitting. Try it out and notice the difference. It is huge.
I really appreciate this response and in no way shape or form did I say anything about NOT turning the hips. What most people are missing here is that this is a teaching approach. One can simply say "stretch your left arm but that doesn't make it a jab. This video is being seen a lot from a practioner's point of view but one needs to understand that not everyone has the same learning curve. Understanding biomechanics can be tricky for non athletic people so it's my job as a coach to teach it in a broken down, layman's term type of approach. It's the same thing as whenmost beginner practioners punch on one side they only focus on that side not understanding that the opposite side of the body is as important to move accordingly with the rotation.
Good explanation, I'd just offer one remark to your second point. I wouldn't try to pull front shoulder to the back by itself, but rather use legs and hips for this. First you rotate your back leg and simultaneously shift weight to the front leg and thus rotate hips counterclockwise and simply chain this rotation with rotation of torso and shoulders. No need to force any particular rotation because they happen by themselves and you don't risk injuries this way.
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woww. Punch with the hips. That helped a lot
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How to teach your students to push their punches with this one easy step. Counter strikers love him.
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Normally after some training proper technique your nerve system will program this so you will do it automattically.
Do you do this on every punch or just the power punches?
Mostly on power punches
I've never heard of anyone pushing a baseball so why would I push a punch?
Which is why you snap it.
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Different systems teach different details. Most people who have trained for long enough (6 months) will recognise this as bullshit though. By the time you’ve drilled a technique for it to come out properly in a dynamic situation, your body forms a kinetic chain that whips the technique from foot rotation through to arm extension. The hip will automatically form a link in this chain and won’t need to be over emphasised.
17 years of being a coach and learning from so many types of people and the way they understand things is why this video exists. Some ppl, weather you believe it or not, especially when they've never played sports in their lives has really really bad coordination. Shit, I even had one guy who pivots his front foot when throwing a cross. Drilling is always key, but you can drill the same wrong thing over and over and the outcome will still be wrong.
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Why did he add a telegraph to the second rep tho?
You don't teach transference of energy from the top down. Transference of energy starts from the ground up through the rear foot and through the leg before it reaches the hips. Closed chain movements generates more kinetic energy due to the power of the bigger muscles in the lower body being transferred up through the hips, through the arm, the punch--if it lands or not--and into the front leg that quickly becomes the back leg as the fighter shifts to avoid a counter putting him in position to deliver another strike utilizing the same energy source.
By utilizing the hips alone (open chain) generates nominal extra power. In fact, using that technique, a fighter can land punches round after round and leave the fight to the judges decision.
I WASNT teaching transfer of energy from the top down at ALL. That wasn't the point of the video at all. I'm addressing a problem of some students that I've encountered that even after I've gone through the kinetic chain of movement with them, they simply cannot put it together right away. But by wording it or explaining it a little differently, it can help them understand the movements better.
Not gonna lie I’ve definitely rocked people hard without turning my hip if you got enough power it will work
So basically don't "step", don't "shift your weight", don't "rotate" the hips, nor the shoulders, don't "sink" in the legs, don't "extend" through the joints, etc.
Basically, don't just "punch". Instead, just punch.
hard time understanding here
What about just transferring the weight to the front leg instead?
Facts but I idk about just hip is involved for maximum power but like you said some weight goes to that front leg too. So then it sets up the left hook and shift the weight back
Shifting your weight to the front leg compromises mobility and balance, and leaves you open to a counter.
@@HumanAction1 go tell that to the Eastern European boxers who box like that all the time. Or three time Cuban gold medalist Teofilo Stevenson.
@@fastfuriousmark exactly. Without shifting the weight forward there is no left hook. Unless he is just throwing counter punches and not committing. So it depends. However proper weight transfer is ultimately where the power would come from.
@@andrewtanczyk4009 I find the left hook to be more powerful when you slightly pause after that too just too make sure everything resets and it keeps everything connected. The weight sits on lead foot then back to back foot
I always see a punch as a full body rotation like a GI Joe punch. You want to rotate the shoulder as fast as possible towards the target and accelerate the fist towards the target so that it lands while the whole body is moving at it's fastest
Im a small guy but I leave huge dents in the bag as it makes a loud thud and shakes in place.
It depends on what kind of fighting you are training for, but I suppose that you know that it is not wise to overly rotate bcs you canfing yourself giving up your outside line to an opponent. This is more important in mma and self defense ofc.
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@@stmartinhk It's a very fast and subtle movement. You don't actually turn your whole torso all that much. I practice boxing, MMA jiu jitsu classes and we do Muay Thai.
It's the speed of rotation and the timing of landing the punch not the amount of movement.
I can throw what looks like an arm punch to others and still it will be a full body movement with feet planted, torso rotation, sitting down on it and all.
It's so fast and subtle you don't even see any of that happening. It just looks like my fist went straight to the target
I don't know about that 😮 thanks for telling us
Nice tip man you'd be a great coach!
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Canelo alvarez is using hips
Box sings....
i dont get it, where is the difference?
This might be a simpler way to understand this. By simply asking someone to extend their left arm with a balled fist, would u consider that a jab right away? Intent and biomechanics is what makes up the whole movement.
I didn’t understand the difference at all Coach. Maybe make another video explaining what he means. In both cases he is throwing his hip forward just slower in the first one.
It was slow both times, that kid is novice.
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See no difference
If I were to ask you to simply extend your left arm out, would you consider that a jab? The difference is knowing what to move ans how to move it (biomechanics) and intent.
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If this is teaching a novice then a complete fail. Hardly any difference in the two strikes. That kid wanted to get off and go play with some girls.
May I see some of your teaching videos please?
@@thebangkoklion7654 The problem is I know my limits, unfortunately that sentiment is not universal.
Unless you can show me any videos of you teaching at all, or prove me wrong or have more than 17 Years or experience in pro, amateur ( with multiplr national titels) and fitness boxing coaching with 3 academies then we can talk. Otherwise this convo is over and belive me I like a good back and forth if it's worth it.
U fckn kiddin me? Wording correctional video? R we running outta content?
Pro tip: Watch Naoya Inoue closely and copy
No sense made
Throwing a punch is actually throwing your hip
Unfortunately that's not always the case especially for beginners, a punch can be shoulder dominant if the biomechanics are not taught properly.
@@thebangkoklion7654hey mate could you do a video on how to keep your shoulders relaxed in a punch as well, I have a nasty habit of tensing up in my traps and shoulders when I punch 🤦♂️
That's why true boxers don't throw punches nor hips.
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Thank you