I just bought a 2018 ecoboost as my first new car 0 miles on it. Did I want a v8 coyote? Of course, have I had 4.6s 5.0s (pushrod) uh yeah. I've had tons of fast cars. There's just something so unique about this car that just makes me love it. I wouldn't even compare it to the 5.0 because you'll always get crap for it, it definitely slaps the v6 around for smiles per gallon. This thing has so much potential it's not even funny. I would recommend this over the v6 all day. Of course the v8 is the big daddy in most average financial situations but for my first car Ford said no way we don't trust you with 40k try 20k first then trade in. Honestly idk if I want to trade in. Ecoboost has won my heart.
All engines that have DI tick somewhat and that's 99% of what people hear and complain about, when your spraying fuel at over 2000psi they are going to tick as the injectors operate.
Good review 2015 looks mean hey question ever thought about takin a trip to manhattan harlem n particular & would you do a review on the new cadillac truck ?
Your passion for reviews shows. This is how its REALLY done.. Nice job mate. Definitely see big things for you in your future & it couldn't happen to a nicer guy. You know what you're doing, represent the car culture well and honestly are not so biased one way or another and that shows in your reviews. They definitely are imaginative and make us laugh at some of the things you do. You love cars and it shows. Keep it up. Kudos. Let's crush a few big events next year! 👍😎
All this talk/videos about the ecoboost premium made me want to test drive one which I did today and I have to say I was very impressed with the acceleration and all around materials. They have done a fantastic job inside. The car just took off like a bullet, and got onto the freeway at a terrific speed. When I looked at the speedometer, I had already hit 70 in a matter of seconds! Having owned V-8's and still do, I am truly amazed! I know what you mean about it falling off when it has done it's thing but regardless it still puts a smile on one's face! :-)
I was given a ride in one of these with the manual trans from a friend of mine who works for ford and was given one for the woodward dream cruise to drive. Truly amazing car. I really want one after that, I can look past the high end rev range loss in power because you can have so much fun in one of those. Great review!
I love watching your car reviews because you see things so positive and have such an open mind about cars. It really seperates you from other car channels. Keep it up! Love thr videos!
Ford used the toggle switches back in the Ford GT. Also AmericanMuscle does a lot of work on blown Mustangs so it's not all that uncommon to hear a BOV from one of the cars there. Nice review, and from what I understand most if not all, turbo cars are grossly detuned from their respective manufacturers for emissions and, more importantly, longevity concerns.
Those are some huge torque gains! It reminds me of the svo and merkur in that respect. By just turning up boost in the merkur 2.3 without any engine work you can get some huge gains. I have been excited for the new 4 banger since its been announced. Purple who get the v8 just because they don't think anything else can be fast are in for a huge surprise when the full potential of the 2.3 is realized.
the new coyote has forged internals from the boss...good for 950 + whp i saw it the other day. if the ecoboost can match that it will be amazing. i like both but i like boosted v8s better
Well sure, but more people can afford to mess around with turbo 4's than boosted v8's. THe nice thing about the 4 banger is weight distribution, the v8's when modded at all are pretty much guaranteed to be faster, and thats okay, top speed is not a reason to get the 4.
Let me just say I am an owner of the new eco-boost w/premium package same color as this tester. My love for mustangs goes back to 1969 when my dad bought his brand new 69 mach 1 in Anchorage AK of all places. Loved that car! His next was a 71 Boss blk/blk what a beast! It was given to me when I was in the 10th grade in Hinesville GA. Only had it in my grasp for one week and some evil man came and took her away! Dad received 3 times what he had paid for it. He felt bad and helped me with my next car when I went into the 11th grade a 69 SS 396 Nova, had a great time in that car too, but my love was for Mustangs. I sold it and bought another 69 fastback w/302 but swapped in a slightly punched 351 W (my dad thought it was a 302 :) ). That car was pretty fast but I planned on more. Bought a new 83 GT for my wife when she graduated high school, fun car. Bought a 71 Ram Air 351 in California and had Bill Hyatt in San Fernando build a husky revision of the original smoker. I still wanted that BIG torque so I bought a 429 out of a GA state police interceptor 71 LTD. Sadly I never got the chance to build it. Broke my back and had to liquidate my beloved pony to get through a difficult year. As my two children grew into awesome young adults I got them both 2002 GT a stick for my son and an auto for my daughter, both silver w/black interiors I really enjoyed those and I loved the sound. Well now I have started all over again and have two beautiful baby girls 3 & 4 so the idea of dad having that pony in the garage again seemed very distant as I was rollin in the mini van again. BUT, my lovely bride had compassion for me and felt I deserved what I had always love from my youth and that was a beautiful Mustang in our garage. Get this! So on HER birthday she takes me to the Ford dealer and they hand me the keys to a very lovely 2015 Mustang. I said OH my goodness thank you baby but it's a 4 banger!? It was raining so I couldn't really get a good feel of the performance but it seemed not to shaby. I loved the independent rear suspension! My wife's plan for my future and longing for horsepower was interesting. She said, " hun, after your warranty runs out I'm sure there will be options available for you to get some HP out of this for less than 10K", which would be the cost for going up to a premium GT. I thought about that, the times and the changes that everything experiences, and after looking at the MPG that came with it I settled into the saddle for a long love affair with a very sexy pony! It may never replace the Black Stallion I knew in my youth, but this little pony will grow up into a proud son!
Aaron P I considered a toyota 86 before I bought my ecoboost. Reason why I had it in mind is bc its just a damn good looking car, but then I got home and thought about. 30k is too much for a car that cant really perform, especially in auto trans. The new mustangs are just as damn good looking and give you much more performance and potential for the same money or less. Some ppl like to defend the brz/86 by saying how its nimble and its great with turns, reality is that the mustang is light enough for most daily drive situations. I dont live around curvy mountains lol to benefits from it. Love my mustang
Good video. Have always been a purist with American muscle cars desiring a large V8, but this new Ecoboost 2.3 has won me over and seriously thinking about purchasing one sometime in the next couple years.
They both coast about the same, this one has an extra 110hp, gets fairly about the same gas mileage, better interior in the mustang (IMO) easy to tune... The only thing the brz has on it is the weight....so tell me which one would you pick?
David, I just got one of these yesterday (2016 black on black) and wouldn't have known about it or that I wanted it if not for this video. I just so happen to love it. So thanks! :D
This car has tons of potential in store! My 2.0t Golf R is up to 360hp, ( APR) w/o touching engine! This mustang will be amazing! Glad to see American cars catching up! Just look at Audi, and all the mad power they get! My Ford Flex is a beast with echo boost! Love the new echo boost movement! 😎
It gets better after each review! Thank your for making the most interesting car reviews of youtube David. If you ever come down to Orlando, we have a couple cars to be reviewed by you.
I started watching you and subaruwrxfan around the same time. I believe he used to have more subscribers by a goon margin. Now your channel is growing much faster than his and reviews like this are why. You both posted a mustang eco boost review on the same day. Even though he owns the car I found your review better and more informative even though it's half the length. Keep up the good work. Also, don't beg people for money to buy yourself a new car like other youtubers who will not be named.
I really like these cars a lot. One thing in my opinion that helps a lot is the spoiler delete. I think it looks much cleaner and flows better down from the fast back.
Really want to see one of these with a bigger turbo and aftermarket flow, judging on the gains from just a tune it looks like a really potential engine, can't wait to see what people get out of these after some mods
Great vid. I have owned two 88 Thunderbird turbo coupes and a 1985.5 Mustang SVO. All were ahead of their time and fun to drive however they also suffered from the higher RPM drop off due to the smaller quick spooling turbo. You know people will upgrade the tune, add a larger turbo, a little nitrous and these 4 bangers will will pretty quick. Of course a 2015 2.3 liter turbocharged engine will have more potential and be more refined vs the 1980's version.
The only complaint I can possibly come up with for the 4 cylinder is the sound, especially after hearing the v8. Other than that, what's not to like? Decent mileage, great power especially after tune and cheaper than the v8. This will never replace the GT, but it's a great and fun OPTION. It's like most of you are getting mad at a well known burger joint for having chicken strips on the menu. Great review!
Hey Dude, just a kind of off-topic question. Are you going to make vids in 60fps in the future? To some of us, myself obviously included, the difference between 30 and 60 fps is like the difference between night and day. It would make us appreciate your videos even more (if that's possible LOL)!
Aye. Definitely keep the higher res. Let's get you more subs so you can get a 1440p 60fps setup with a rig that would render those vids in less than a year ;)
Hey man, first thing is first. I really enjoy your videos and how much of an honest guy you are. Not to many people would go around admitting that they like certain cars but you aren't simple minded like them. If a cars is done right and you like it then you like it. On the other hand, I'm planning on buying a 2014 GT Premium over the 2015 due to the fact that I feel the 2015 lost its muscle look and went more sporty. What's your opinion because you've had a 2013 for a while. Btw I'm driving a 1995 Mitsubishi 3000gt at the time if you want to review it, its not that great but it's N/A and pushes 250 WHP but its fun. Thanks again and keep bringing on the amazing videos.
This is just me being picky, but I feel like Ford could have made the car shift quicker. It's like it takes a whole second for it to change gears. I'm not expecting GTR dual-clutch shifting, but it still could have been a bit quicker than what it is now.
Nice review David. Sounds like this could be a great DD. I'm looking forward to more aftermarket for these cars. Like you said "bigger turbo" could be very entertaining.
I am waiting for the point where technology makes it so there is a "virtual" 5 speed stick w/"fake" clutch, but actually an automatic, so you could have both paddles and a stick shift in the same car. Wait for it...
I wish that they made a transmission with both auto and manual combined. Stick and clutch pedal for fun and then when that bitch traffic comes or you're just not in the mood, throw it auto and a computer does the rest. Except they're completely different transmission so it would probably never happen, at least not for a long time.
It's amazing how you make a video, explain everything in very clear terms and then you end up with a bunch of moronic comments and questions from people who must not have watched the entire video, didn't listen carefully, have no knowledge of the history of the vehicle being reviewed or are just plain stupid. Anyways, great vid!!!
whoa like 2 second lag time from shifts... and he wasn't even pushing it when he was shifting not to mention its just a 4 cyl and transmission cant keep up : /... i hope they get a new 8 speed like in the corvette.
Awesome to see that a.m. let u test out a stang bro lol! When i had mine i bought from them a couple times & nvr had an issue! Good job a.m. & awesome reviews as usual bro!
V6 for this reason, gets better as the revs go higher, and with an aftermarket exhaust and almost identical power, its still more bang for your buck than the turbo
+MCKOOKIE I have the v6 with a gibson exhaust, bbk shorty headers, CAI, and Bama tune. The car was good stock, but now it's amazing! People sleep on the v6.
Tyshun Jones Dude that is too legit man i bet its amazing! I have a flowmaster axleback exhaust and may bama tune it later on im not sure yet. Yeah they sleep on it so hard when the "base" interior is almost the same as the eco premium
The 2.3L turbo gets better topend power with a tune and the massive torque is something you can't get with the V6, well unless add a supercharger/turbo 😊
The IRS is a move toward the future. However, I think every weekend drag racer hates the idea (I know I do). I've seen my fair share of cobras with broken half shafts. I only see the same coming out of this IRS systems in the future. Besides that comment; Great video David!
I noticed you did not adjust the tune and steering modes, those make a huge difference on how that car responds. I can keep the power pumping out of that thing no problem.
I'm calling B.S. on the Ecoboost (the 2.3L specifically) making the V6 worthless, and the reasoning is very simple. The base V6 vs the 2.3L Ecoboost - the weight is nearly identical - the hp and torque is pretty close (yeah, Ecoboost has a bit more torque) - the mpg is actually barely different (1-2mpg) The small Ecoboost simply doesn't have a lot of displacement. This means to match a 5.0L in output takes a LOT of effort. You're running a rather large turbo for the engine size and you're likely running E85 just to get the torque output in the same ballpark. This means you need a rather strung out 2.3L Ecoboost to make 5.0L power. Now let's look at the piddly V6. Yeah, stock to stock, the Ecoboost wins. However, let's look at potential. With just a simple bolt on kit, the base V6 will out torque and out hp a stock 5.0L. This is no internal upgrades, just a straight bolt on kit. Now, 2.3L Ecoboost strung out on corn = V6 with simple bolt on kit. What next? Upgrade the internals of the V6, drop compression, and up boost? We're looking at the same level of displacement as a GTR, and what can GTRs do? Frankly you can get to similar marks once you crack the engine open and start doing some real work. The V6 has the potential for a big power build because it has displacement to work with. The 2.3L Ecoboost is crippled from the start simply by its displacement. Look at the most badass Focus Ecoboost out there and add 15%. That's all the 2.3L Ecoboost will ever do for you. The V6 makes high power with a simple bolt on and has potential once you start to throw money at it. Plus, you're still getting about 30mpg doing this. Owners who have done the bolt on kit route with the V6 have mentioned retained mpg just shy of 30mpg. Once you start to look at it, what's not to like about the V6? ...I mean other than Ford specifically not selling it with any of the goodies from the factory to differentiate and push Ecoboost sales.
Why didn't they give it the Eco Boost V6 that is in the Taurus SHO? That motor is a beast. Easy to get up to 450 HP and lots of torque. Seems like a no brainer to me.
The ecoboost already makes 380 lfbt to the wheels with a tune only. Full bolt ons, the thing would be faster than a stock 5.0. If you're talking about serious internal mods or a turbo, why wouldn't you just get the 5.0 to start out with. Throw in a set of pistons and rods with a turbo kit and you get 900hp all day. It's a money game, thats why the 2.3 beats the v6.
I completely agree, I would completely get rid of the v6 because the 4 cylinder Turbo is so good. The ultimate mustang is still the V8 though. I would never in my life get a 4 or 6 cylinder mustang though. If you want a 4 cylinder get a focus St. He should also get that windshield banner off. That is not American muscle , that is American tuner. If you want a banner that says American muscle, pony up the extra cash and buy a V8.
Only issue is the v4 already has turbo, etc, and runs about the same as a v6. You can mod a v6 far more than the v4. Depends on what you want, but it is ridiculous to say there is no need for the v6. (And American Muscle is a company.. the people who built the car. They focus only on Mustangs. Pretty sure they want their name on their project car)
The Eco Boost is ... Ehh. Just have to wait to see what it can do with some mods. GT350. Now that's a car to talk about! Either way it was a great review David!!!
THREE reasons why the V6 model is better than the EcoBoost... 1) quicker acceleration (by up to 0.5 sec) 2) better exhaust/engine sound 3) $1500 cheaper.
***** I'll take the V6 over the EcoBoost any day. Much more potential for much bigger power. Slap in a procharger, and you're at 450HP. That's without any other bolt on parts. I'm getting a V6 this month. The EcoBoost is also way overpriced.
ALPACA FORLIFE prove me otherwise. The 2013 V6 did 0-60 in 5.3 sec according to Motor Trend. The 2015 should be about the same. The 2015 EcoBoost does 5.6 sec, also according to Motor Trend. The results are in, the V6 is quicker.
These engines are the 2.3 Mazda L / Duratec engines that were in the Mazdaspeed3. They are only mounted differently though because it is RWD. Minor differences. I've seen videos of people making these engines over 400HP with a few parts. Bigger turbo is indeed needed. XD. When the power comes on is the same basically. Old Duratec turbo: 263 hp (196 kW)@5,500 rpms and 280 lb·ft (380 N·m)@3,000 rpms The new one: 310 hp (231 kW; 314 PS) @ 5500 rpm, 320 lb·ft (434 N·m) @ 3000 rpm
Wow amazing how much gain you can get with nothing but a tune! Great review as always. Still hard to like the idea of a 4 cylinder mustang though.. Maybe SubaruWRXFan would like to consider an option like this one on his mustang!
David this was a really good review! The thing I don't understand about this is why buy a 4 cylinder mustang? Why not buy a (yes I am about to say it) honda eg hatch or what ever you prefer and put like a K20 and 10k or more worth of mods. If you have enough for the mustang, you can afford a honda with that much in mods
Nice video. Im still not sold on the I4 over the v6 argument though. When I went to order my '15 they were pushing the EcoBoost hard, but I don't think it so dramatically outperforms the v6, especially for the money. After taxes, tags, etc my v6 cost me 27,950 with some options. An equally optioned EcoBoost was $34-35,000.00 after taxes for a difference of 15HP and 40TQ. If i'm going to have a mustang thats not a GT id rather take the v6 and tune on it over the 4 banger. I can make 15HP and 40TQ on the 3.7 for way less than $7,000.00 I pick up my 15 on friday, so excited to pick it up. I already have a mod list together lol.
i was hoping the review would have been on a manual transmission stang, maybe the boost feels different. i was curious about that, and how the turbo would sound when shifting gears. hopefully you do that soon. nice vid!
Just wait till people put a bigger turbo and up the boost on these. Should be pretty interesting. I can't wait to see what the aftermarket has in store for this car.
I can only imagine what the V8 is going to sound like when I can get it in five years or so. I cannot wait to get a V8. I can only imagine what it sounds like.
I know this is apples to oranges but I have the F150 FX4 ecoboost and that trucks power is pretty impressive I had the new 5.0 in the F150 prior to this truck and the ecoboost feels like it has a lot more power than it actually has over the 5.0
For the Ignorant..As David talked way back before the 2015's hit the salefloor. Ford was working on bringing back the *MUSTANG SVO* What is the SVO? The Mustang SVO was a limited-production version of the Ford Mustang sold from 1984 to 1986, during which time it was the *fastest*, *most expensive version* of the *Mustang* available. Although it departed both physically and mechanically from any prior version of the Mustang, it held the same spot within the lineup, both in terms of performance over "lesser" variants and in prestige, as had variants such as the Shelby tuned and "BOSS" Mustangs of the 1960s and 1970s. The *EcoBoost!* is a throwback to that Nostalgic car. Which makes it a Valid mustang.
It’s funny I just got my 2017 and exactly what you said is what I feel. Mines a manual. I drove the 2016 and 2017 Auto and the manual just feels better to me. I don’t mind the sound. If you get it to launch good it sounds pretty good. It’s only got 1,000 miles on her so I have done any mods yet and my catch can just arrived. Slowly but surely I’ll start to make mods.
Which Bama tune was he running? Did I just miss when he said it or something? Race, Performance, or Street? To be honest, if you have to rely on the race tune to give you that serious power boost, it's not even worth it, I'll stick to lightly modded v6's.
The new Ecoboost Mustang is an amazing car. The only reason people don't like it is because its a 4 cylinder in a Mustang. It's a different concept. But 310 hp, Rear wheel drive and a 6 speed transmission is actually really good. The price is not that bad either, I have actually looked into getting one of these.
I have a 2015 mustang stock tune but I decided to change out the stock 30pound flywheel to a spec aluminum billet 15 pound flywheel and now it does not fall off on top of rpms and the car shifts wayyyyyy faster but mine is a manual
Couple things I'd like to differ on, but not gunna really worry about it, but those " fighter jet " style switches were brought over from the Ford GT. It had them before the GTR and were in the center console on top.
Had a TT with a 1.8 225hp. Turbo with that was Rubber Band like. Sounds like the Turbo is small like he says to spool quicker but it could also be that it needs a waste gate that holds boost on the top and it should pull all the way to redline. The TT was exactly the same mid power hard and once it hit around 5k it was done like it just rolled over. Tweeked waste gate and it held 20#'s and pull hard to about 6000 it redline. Today with all the tech they will get the Turbo to haul.
I have driven my Ecoboost Mustang for a little over a year (25,000 mi) and can't complain about the power on the stock tune, sure it falls on it face if you try and rev it past 5k or so but that's a side effect of the small turbo. The engine has tons of torque down low where normal people tend to drive so the car feels far faster than what it really is. With that being said, I just ordered an X4 tuner to see if I can squeeze a bit more for the little engine that could. My only real complaint about the car is the sound, the noise would be fine coming from an Focus but not so much coming from the Stang.
nice review. That tune sounds like it makes a great difference. I can't get over how slow that transmission is to shift though. Get a Dual Clutch Ford! I give it a year before those ecoboosts are laying down 500+ hp.
I just bought a 2018 ecoboost as my first new car 0 miles on it. Did I want a v8 coyote? Of course, have I had 4.6s 5.0s (pushrod) uh yeah. I've had tons of fast cars. There's just something so unique about this car that just makes me love it. I wouldn't even compare it to the 5.0 because you'll always get crap for it, it definitely slaps the v6 around for smiles per gallon. This thing has so much potential it's not even funny. I would recommend this over the v6 all day. Of course the v8 is the big daddy in most average financial situations but for my first car Ford said no way we don't trust you with 40k try 20k first then trade in. Honestly idk if I want to trade in. Ecoboost has won my heart.
Tunefully well you can laugh now because the V8 ticks
All engines that have DI tick somewhat and that's 99% of what people hear and complain about, when your spraying fuel at over 2000psi they are going to tick as the injectors operate.
@@WhoThisGuy515 exactly every direct injection car has ticking
Every well said 👏🏽
My friend the Ecoboost is awesome, but if you get a gt 2nd-3rd gen you will want to drive it every second of the day!
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Great video David!
Good review 2015 looks mean hey question ever thought about takin a trip to manhattan harlem n particular & would you do a review on the new cadillac truck ?
Superb Video......cant wait for it to launch here in the middle east....!!!!
Thanks for the review mate, looking forward to seeing these things in Australia.
Your passion for reviews shows. This is how its REALLY done.. Nice job mate. Definitely see big things for you in your future & it couldn't happen to a nicer guy. You know what you're doing, represent the car culture well and honestly are not so biased one way or another and that shows in your reviews. They definitely are imaginative and make us laugh at some of the things you do. You love cars and it shows. Keep it up. Kudos. Let's crush a few big events next year! 👍😎
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When passion and technical skills come together this is what you get. Great things ahead for David if you ask me...
You know when DoctaM3 wants to kick it with you, you're in the big boys club.
Docta saying it as it is.
P TC Amen!
I love ecoboost power. I also love the tun-ability of these engines.... slap a tune on and get massive power gains. Cheapest upgrade hands down.
yep 400tq with a tune
All this talk/videos about the ecoboost premium made me want to test drive one which I did today and I have to say I was very impressed with the acceleration and all around materials. They have done a fantastic job inside. The car just took off like a bullet, and got onto the freeway at a terrific speed. When I looked at the speedometer, I had already hit 70 in a matter of seconds! Having owned V-8's and still do, I am truly amazed!
I know what you mean about it falling off when it has done it's thing but regardless it still puts a smile on one's face! :-)
I was given a ride in one of these with the manual trans from a friend of mine who works for ford and was given one for the woodward dream cruise to drive. Truly amazing car. I really want one after that, I can look past the high end rev range loss in power because you can have so much fun in one of those. Great review!
Steven Walsh A small tune would solve that problem.
I love watching your car reviews because you see things so positive and have such an open mind about cars. It really seperates you from other car channels. Keep it up! Love thr videos!
Great review David! It's cool to see how the tune transforms the car! Keep up the great work!
Do we see one of these tunes in the future for your beautiful beast sir?
subaruwrxfan Thanks dude! Hope you are enjoying yours to the fullest.
Take notes from this guy, Subaru dude
hope to see your mustang tuned like that as soon as possible :P To see you freak out even more hihihhi :P
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Matt, i'd get it professionally tuned versus a mail order tune. That way your not running around on the verge of blowing up....
Ford used the toggle switches back in the Ford GT. Also AmericanMuscle does a lot of work on blown Mustangs so it's not all that uncommon to hear a BOV from one of the cars there. Nice review, and from what I understand most if not all, turbo cars are grossly detuned from their respective manufacturers for emissions and, more importantly, longevity concerns.
I might get some hate for this but I think this is one of my favourite years for mustangs
Those are some huge torque gains! It reminds me of the svo and merkur in that respect. By just turning up boost in the merkur 2.3 without any engine work you can get some huge gains. I have been excited for the new 4 banger since its been announced. Purple who get the v8 just because they don't think anything else can be fast are in for a huge surprise when the full potential of the 2.3 is realized.
Sorry for the typos, I'm writing these comments on my phone.
Connor Jones
That's even worse since the phone has auto correct to help you.
Yeah, cause auto correct is so "helpful"!
the new coyote has forged internals from the boss...good for 950 + whp i saw it the other day. if the ecoboost can match that it will be amazing. i like both but i like boosted v8s better
Well sure, but more people can afford to mess around with turbo 4's than boosted v8's. THe nice thing about the 4 banger is weight distribution, the v8's when modded at all are pretty much guaranteed to be faster, and thats okay, top speed is not a reason to get the 4.
Let me just say I am an owner of the new eco-boost w/premium package same color as this tester. My love for mustangs goes back to 1969 when my dad bought his brand new 69 mach 1 in Anchorage AK of all places. Loved that car! His next was a 71 Boss blk/blk what a beast! It was given to me when I was in the 10th grade in Hinesville GA. Only had it in my grasp for one week and some evil man came and took her away! Dad received 3 times what he had paid for it. He felt bad and helped me with my next car when I went into the 11th grade a 69 SS 396 Nova, had a great time in that car too, but my love was for Mustangs. I sold it and bought another 69 fastback w/302 but swapped in a slightly punched 351 W (my dad thought it was a 302 :) ). That car was pretty fast but I planned on more. Bought a new 83 GT for my wife when she graduated high school, fun car. Bought a 71 Ram Air 351 in California and had Bill Hyatt in San Fernando build a husky revision of the original smoker. I still wanted that BIG torque so I bought a 429 out of a GA state police interceptor 71 LTD. Sadly I never got the chance to build it. Broke my back and had to liquidate my beloved pony to get through a difficult year. As my two children grew into awesome young adults I got them both 2002 GT a stick for my son and an auto for my daughter, both silver w/black interiors I really enjoyed those and I loved the sound. Well now I have started all over again and have two beautiful baby girls 3 & 4 so the idea of dad having that pony in the garage again seemed very distant as I was rollin in the mini van again. BUT, my lovely bride had compassion for me and felt I deserved what I had always love from my youth and that was a beautiful Mustang in our garage. Get this! So on HER birthday she takes me to the Ford dealer and they hand me the keys to a very lovely 2015 Mustang. I said OH my goodness thank you baby but it's a 4 banger!? It was raining so I couldn't really get a good feel of the performance but it seemed not to shaby. I loved the independent rear suspension! My wife's plan for my future and longing for horsepower was interesting. She said, " hun, after your warranty runs out I'm sure there will be options available for you to get some HP out of this for less than 10K", which would be the cost for going up to a premium GT. I thought about that, the times and the changes that everything experiences, and after looking at the MPG that came with it I settled into the saddle for a long love affair with a very sexy pony! It may never replace the Black Stallion I knew in my youth, but this little pony will grow up into a proud son!
ford just did what the FRS and BRZ should have done...and price is about the same
Deejay Core eco boost all day over a BRZ/FRS! Or even an S2000
Aaron P I considered a toyota 86 before I bought my ecoboost.
Reason why I had it in mind is bc its just a damn good looking car, but then I got home and thought about.
30k is too much for a car that cant really perform, especially in auto trans.
The new mustangs are just as damn good looking and give you much more performance and potential for the same money or less.
Some ppl like to defend the brz/86 by saying how its nimble and its great with turns, reality is that the mustang is light enough for most daily drive situations. I dont live around curvy mountains lol to benefits from it.
Love my mustang
FRS and BRZ did what Ford is doing.
Now it’s 2k cheaper
@@M4B21S88 not to mention mustangs are faster around a track anyway 😂
Good video. Have always been a purist with American muscle cars desiring a large V8, but this new Ecoboost 2.3 has won me over and seriously thinking about purchasing one sometime in the next couple years.
This car is going to hurt the brz/frs sales even more. Holy crap good freaking job ford....
How so?
They both coast about the same, this one has an extra 110hp, gets fairly about the same gas mileage, better interior in the mustang (IMO) easy to tune... The only thing the brz has on it is the weight....so tell me which one would you pick?
Yes man. I agree with you. But I personally like the looks of the brz more.
they stopped production of them tho....so it dont rly matter lol
Huss Ali
it has 100 extra hp but weighs 1000lbs more. So.. no win.
David, I just got one of these yesterday (2016 black on black) and wouldn't have known about it or that I wanted it if not for this video. I just so happen to love it. So thanks! :D
The EcoBoost is going to have some crazy potential. Can't wait to see what the After-market community is going to offer.
This car has tons of potential in store! My 2.0t Golf R is up to 360hp, ( APR) w/o touching engine! This mustang will be amazing! Glad to see American cars catching up! Just look at Audi, and all the mad power they get! My Ford Flex is a beast with echo boost! Love the new echo boost movement! 😎
It gets better after each review! Thank your for making the most interesting car reviews of youtube David. If you ever come down to Orlando, we have a couple cars to be reviewed by you.
I'm actually thinking about a Florida trip soon. I'll keep the channel posted
Sounds nice, we can plan something with the car people from here and all the cars
I started watching you and subaruwrxfan around the same time. I believe he used to have more subscribers by a goon margin. Now your channel is growing much faster than his and reviews like this are why. You both posted a mustang eco boost review on the same day. Even though he owns the car I found your review better and more informative even though it's half the length. Keep up the good work. Also, don't beg people for money to buy yourself a new car like other youtubers who will not be named.
I really like these cars a lot. One thing in my opinion that helps a lot is the spoiler delete. I think it looks much cleaner and flows better down from the fast back.
Really want to see one of these with a bigger turbo and aftermarket flow, judging on the gains from just a tune it looks like a really potential engine, can't wait to see what people get out of these after some mods
I started liking the new 2015 then i parked next to one and i fell more in love with my 2014 5.0
Great vid. I have owned two 88 Thunderbird turbo coupes and a 1985.5 Mustang SVO. All were ahead of their time and fun to drive however they also suffered from the higher RPM drop off due to the smaller quick spooling turbo. You know people will upgrade the tune, add a larger turbo, a little nitrous and these 4 bangers will will pretty quick. Of course a 2015 2.3 liter turbocharged engine will have more potential and be more refined vs the 1980's version.
you were pretty close to my area when you did this vide, you should have stopped by and drove my supra!
ThatDudeinBlue ^^^^^^^^^^^
PLEASE do a review of a MK3 Supra, please please please.
ThatDudeinBlue what do ya say man? :D
@ThatDudeinBlue you should defiantly do a review on the PoorManMods JZA70 Supra. I would love to see that!!!
I'm not going to be back there on awhile, but if you ever want to come down here when I am on an off day let's do it!
Watching this video four years in the future is pretty cool. You called the death of the v6
Great review! Love the ecoboost mustangs! Liked!
This was a great video. I've seen so much hate go to the Ecoboost, but it's amazing to see you loving this car.
It's sick, and agreeing with you it's much more sophisticated, but that 4 cylinder sound needs more 'Merica to it
The only complaint I can possibly come up with for the 4 cylinder is the sound, especially after hearing the v8. Other than that, what's not to like? Decent mileage, great power especially after tune and cheaper than the v8. This will never replace the GT, but it's a great and fun OPTION. It's like most of you are getting mad at a well known burger joint for having chicken strips on the menu. Great review!
Hey Dude, just a kind of off-topic question. Are you going to make vids in 60fps in the future? To some of us, myself obviously included, the difference between 30 and 60 fps is like the difference between night and day. It would make us appreciate your videos even more (if that's possible LOL)!
I would unfortunately have to down res quite a bit. So I'm sticking with 24 for awhile with my camera setup.
Aye. Definitely keep the higher res. Let's get you more subs so you can get a 1440p 60fps setup with a rig that would render those vids in less than a year ;)
I'm ready for 4k @ 60fps or higher. Probably a couple years down the road till it becomes affordable for the average enthusiast though!
Dude 24fps is the way to go. It looks nicer for video. 60fps is actually more unnatural to our eyes. Don't listen to him
ThatDudeinBlue Get rid of that ancient T3i and get something like the Sony NEX-5N it has an APS-C size sensor and records at 60 FPS
I must say, you have changed my thinking on these. What a respectable car!
Very good review! So let me ask this, does utilizing the Bama tuned upgrade on the Ecoboost Turbo invalidate the warranty?
I finally got to sit in a 2015 Mustang GT Sunday at an auto show in San Francisco. That car is sweet! Just a really well done car.
That's funny how he posted his ecoboost review the same day as Subaruwrxfan?!
Hey man, first thing is first. I really enjoy your videos and how much of an honest guy you are. Not to many people would go around admitting that they like certain cars but you aren't simple minded like them. If a cars is done right and you like it then you like it. On the other hand, I'm planning on buying a 2014 GT Premium over the 2015 due to the fact that I feel the 2015 lost its muscle look and went more sporty. What's your opinion because you've had a 2013 for a while. Btw I'm driving a 1995 Mitsubishi 3000gt at the time if you want to review it, its not that great but it's N/A and pushes 250 WHP but its fun. Thanks again and keep bringing on the amazing videos.
This is just me being picky, but I feel like Ford could have made the car shift quicker. It's like it takes a whole second for it to change gears. I'm not expecting GTR dual-clutch shifting, but it still could have been a bit quicker than what it is now.
Nice review David. Sounds like this could be a great DD. I'm looking forward to more aftermarket for these cars. Like you said "bigger turbo" could be very entertaining.
I am waiting for the point where technology makes it so there is a "virtual" 5 speed stick w/"fake" clutch, but actually an automatic, so you could have both paddles and a stick shift in the same car. Wait for it...
damn I thought I was the only one waiting for that.
I wish that they made a transmission with both auto and manual combined. Stick and clutch pedal for fun and then when that bitch traffic comes or you're just not in the mood, throw it auto and a computer does the rest. Except they're completely different transmission so it would probably never happen, at least not for a long time.
What would be the point?
TheCowGoesMoo o Actually, a lot of the semi-autos just use a computer controlled clutch. So they're not as different as you'd think.
minnsminns That's the way to do it. Manual gearbox, computer controlled. Preferably with some kind of double clutch setup for crazy fast gear changes!
It's amazing how you make a video, explain everything in very clear terms and then you end up with a bunch of moronic comments and questions from people who must not have watched the entire video, didn't listen carefully, have no knowledge of the history of the vehicle being reviewed or are just plain stupid. Anyways, great vid!!!
wow im so glad they made a fusion coupe!!
David calling the death of the v6 in 2014! Gosh dang my dude.
Great vid, shout out to AM for the car.. how about you guys throw a few parts at Mr. Patterson here.. heh.. maybe a little twin turbo kit.. :P
You're getting damn good at these intros and reviews man! Keep them coming
whoa like 2 second lag time from shifts... and he wasn't even pushing it when he was shifting not to mention its just a 4 cyl and transmission cant keep up : /... i hope they get a new 8 speed like in the corvette.
Yeah, not liking the shift lag. I want my paddle shifts to be instant.
Or just, you know... Buy a manual transmission instead of the half-ass transmission.
Adam Parker thats true.
The EcoBoost was fun to be in I was in my uncle's EcoBoost it's pretty fun
I thought the turbo aftermarket industry would adopt the mustang ecoboost a lot faster.
The sales aren't that high too
I just Want To Thank You For Making These Awesome Videos I Really Look Up To You And Paul Walker Y'all Are My Ideals
I would love to see a 3.5 ecoboost in one of these.
MediocreOutdoorsman lord have mercy for what it could do
Ford wouldn’t do that I’d rather have a 3.5 rather than the 5.0
Awesome to see that a.m. let u test out a stang bro lol! When i had mine i bought from them a couple times & nvr had an issue! Good job a.m. & awesome reviews as usual bro!
V6 for this reason, gets better as the revs go higher, and with an aftermarket exhaust and almost identical power, its still more bang for your buck than the turbo
+MCKOOKIE I have the v6 with a gibson exhaust, bbk shorty headers, CAI, and Bama tune. The car was good stock, but now it's amazing! People sleep on the v6.
Tyshun Jones Dude that is too legit man i bet its amazing! I have a flowmaster axleback exhaust and may bama tune it later on im not sure yet. Yeah they sleep on it so hard when the "base" interior is almost the same as the eco premium
+Tyshun Jones I have the same setup except for the headers.. Did you notice any power gains from the headers?
The 2.3L turbo gets better topend power with a tune and the massive torque is something you can't get with the V6, well unless add a supercharger/turbo 😊
mpt is better than bama
The IRS is a move toward the future. However, I think every weekend drag racer hates the idea (I know I do). I've seen my fair share of cobras with broken half shafts. I only see the same coming out of this IRS systems in the future. Besides that comment; Great video David!
I would make the live axle an option. For the V8s.
it would have been cool a turborcharged v6 eco boost
the f150 2015 is turbo
Like the twin-turbo SHO motor. I do dig this 4 though, a lot.
NEOBAE77 I would've loved if they did the SHO motor in it as well.
True. Why not the Ecoboost 4, Ecoboost 6, and the Coyote V8 for the model choices.
Ford wouldn't want the eco 6 to be faster than the coyote v8 lol.
I noticed you did not adjust the tune and steering modes, those make a huge difference on how that car responds. I can keep the power pumping out of that thing no problem.
I'm calling B.S. on the Ecoboost (the 2.3L specifically) making the V6 worthless, and the reasoning is very simple.
The base V6 vs the 2.3L Ecoboost
- the weight is nearly identical
- the hp and torque is pretty close (yeah, Ecoboost has a bit more torque)
- the mpg is actually barely different (1-2mpg)
The small Ecoboost simply doesn't have a lot of displacement. This means to match a 5.0L in output takes a LOT of effort. You're running a rather large turbo for the engine size and you're likely running E85 just to get the torque output in the same ballpark. This means you need a rather strung out 2.3L Ecoboost to make 5.0L power.
Now let's look at the piddly V6. Yeah, stock to stock, the Ecoboost wins. However, let's look at potential. With just a simple bolt on kit, the base V6 will out torque and out hp a stock 5.0L. This is no internal upgrades, just a straight bolt on kit.
Now,
2.3L Ecoboost strung out on corn = V6 with simple bolt on kit.
What next? Upgrade the internals of the V6, drop compression, and up boost? We're looking at the same level of displacement as a GTR, and what can GTRs do? Frankly you can get to similar marks once you crack the engine open and start doing some real work.
The V6 has the potential for a big power build because it has displacement to work with. The 2.3L Ecoboost is crippled from the start simply by its displacement. Look at the most badass Focus Ecoboost out there and add 15%. That's all the 2.3L Ecoboost will ever do for you. The V6 makes high power with a simple bolt on and has potential once you start to throw money at it. Plus, you're still getting about 30mpg doing this. Owners who have done the bolt on kit route with the V6 have mentioned retained mpg just shy of 30mpg.
Once you start to look at it, what's not to like about the V6? ...I mean other than Ford specifically not selling it with any of the goodies from the factory to differentiate and push Ecoboost sales.
Why didn't they give it the Eco Boost V6 that is in the Taurus SHO? That motor is a beast. Easy to get up to 450 HP and lots of torque. Seems like a no brainer to me.
***** Now that's an idea
I assume the "simple bolt-on kit" is a turbo for the V6?
The ecoboost already makes 380 lfbt to the wheels with a tune only. Full bolt ons, the thing would be faster than a stock 5.0. If you're talking about serious internal mods or a turbo, why wouldn't you just get the 5.0 to start out with. Throw in a set of pistons and rods with a turbo kit and you get 900hp all day. It's a money game, thats why the 2.3 beats the v6.
Ford even said they weren't originally planning on making the v6 but they decided to just to keep the base price low.
I love the intro of the vidéo and you make me changed my mind about a 4cyl Mustang. Well done !
how much does that tune cost
This was a really awesome video! you said everything i wanted to know! your reviews have started getting even better. love it.
I completely agree, I would completely get rid of the v6 because the 4 cylinder Turbo is so good. The ultimate mustang is still the V8 though. I would never in my life get a 4 or 6 cylinder mustang though. If you want a 4 cylinder get a focus St. He should also get that windshield banner off. That is not American muscle , that is American tuner. If you want a banner that says American muscle, pony up the extra cash and buy a V8.
Only issue is the v4 already has turbo, etc, and runs about the same as a v6. You can mod a v6 far more than the v4. Depends on what you want, but it is ridiculous to say there is no need for the v6.
(And American Muscle is a company.. the people who built the car. They focus only on Mustangs. Pretty sure they want their name on their project car)
kiraanimerawr1 The fact you said "V4" makes everything you said meaningless stay out of the car scene lmao
kiraanimerawr1 You said v4, your argument is invalid.
Get the fuck over it ass holes.. it's just a fucking slang to make a point, I'm not trying to accurate.
kiraanimerawr1
That's not slang just don't talk about cars ever again
The Eco Boost is ... Ehh. Just have to wait to see what it can do with some mods. GT350. Now that's a car to talk about!
Either way it was a great review David!!!
Is it fast enough to scare my friends?
Samuel Anderson yes
I just drove one today and I can't agree more!
THREE reasons why the V6 model is better than the EcoBoost...
1) quicker acceleration (by up to 0.5 sec)
2) better exhaust/engine sound
3) $1500 cheaper.
Lol nobody in a right mind will believe that shit
***** I'll take the V6 over the EcoBoost any day. Much more potential for much bigger power. Slap in a procharger, and you're at 450HP. That's without any other bolt on parts. I'm getting a V6 this month. The EcoBoost is also way overpriced.
What? The ecoboost out accelerates the v6
XxxInTheMiddlexxX prove it...via a credible source.
ALPACA FORLIFE prove me otherwise. The 2013 V6 did 0-60 in 5.3 sec according to Motor Trend. The 2015 should be about the same. The 2015 EcoBoost does 5.6 sec, also according to Motor Trend. The results are in, the V6 is quicker.
These engines are the 2.3 Mazda L / Duratec engines that were in the Mazdaspeed3. They are only mounted differently though because it is RWD. Minor differences. I've seen videos of people making these engines over 400HP with a few parts. Bigger turbo is indeed needed. XD. When the power comes on is the same basically.
Old Duratec turbo: 263 hp (196 kW)@5,500 rpms and 280 lb·ft (380 N·m)@3,000 rpms
The new one: 310 hp (231 kW; 314 PS) @ 5500 rpm, 320 lb·ft (434 N·m) @ 3000 rpm
You should ask your fans to pay for a new mustang like subaruhomofan
Wow amazing how much gain you can get with nothing but a tune! Great review as always. Still hard to like the idea of a 4 cylinder mustang though..
Maybe SubaruWRXFan would like to consider an option like this one on his mustang!
Mustang with 4 cylinders is like a woman with one boob
purvanov she's still getting fucked 🤷🏽♂️ what's your point
Justin Myers lmaoooooo perfect
David this was a really good review! The thing I don't understand about this is why buy a 4 cylinder mustang? Why not buy a (yes I am about to say it) honda eg hatch or what ever you prefer and put like a K20 and 10k or more worth of mods. If you have enough for the mustang, you can afford a honda with that much in mods
4 banger, automatic, keyless entry. only thing they need now is a 4 door. what a waste of car.
And you are a waste of a comment space!
Nobody here cares about your little opinion, bud.
Dylan Johnson And I don't care that nobody cares so who really cares? Crazy right?
***** I'm so offended.
Why comment then?
Nice one David! Tune seems like it made a big difference.
Sadly, the V8 will go extinct before the V6! That is a fact.
***** look at the ford GT, it is true. Hell even ferrari are favoring v6 turbo over a v8 NA
Mr. Vargas just proved my point!
Johnny CincoCero even one of the best drivers cars, the M3, isn't v8 anymore. It's a v6 twin turbo. times are changing.
Yes...moreover, the government is tightening down on manufacturers with strict pollution regulations and higher fuel economy standards.
...which is easier and more cost effective to attain with boosted 4 and v6 engines.
As you say in the video it sound healthier. Car sounds beast with the tune and you can hear that it pulls better.
that tune looks like it cleaned up the shifting points too...crazy little car.
I'm a big fan of the IRS and in this video u finally gave it some love
Can't wait for the GT review and the GT350 later on!
Nice video. Im still not sold on the I4 over the v6 argument though. When I went to order my '15 they were pushing the EcoBoost hard, but I don't think it so dramatically outperforms the v6, especially for the money. After taxes, tags, etc my v6 cost me 27,950 with some options. An equally optioned EcoBoost was $34-35,000.00 after taxes for a difference of 15HP and 40TQ. If i'm going to have a mustang thats not a GT id rather take the v6 and tune on it over the 4 banger. I can make 15HP and 40TQ on the 3.7 for way less than $7,000.00
I pick up my 15 on friday, so excited to pick it up. I already have a mod list together lol.
I can't even tell you how jealous I am that you got to work with AmericanMuscle.com on something, even if it was just reviewing one of their cars.
Thumbs up for uploading it when subaruwrxfan reviews his green ecoboost :)
I absulutely dig these wheels, way better than the stock ones!
I had a 17 ecoboost rental. Convertible ... for a week. Drove it like I stole it, for a week. Impressive. The new IRS is the shit.Sticks like glue.
Makes more power than the SVO......All freakin day.
i was hoping the review would have been on a manual transmission stang, maybe the boost feels different.
i was curious about that, and how the turbo would sound when shifting gears.
hopefully you do that soon.
nice vid!
Just wait till people put a bigger turbo and up the boost on these. Should be pretty interesting. I can't wait to see what the aftermarket has in store for this car.
This is awesome man.!! As usual great review !!
One of your best reviews!
I'm really excited to see what ppl can do with the turbo.
I can only imagine what the V8 is going to sound like when I can get it in five years or so. I cannot wait to get a V8. I can only imagine what it sounds like.
Did you buy the v8?
Its been 5 years.
I know this is apples to oranges but I have the F150 FX4 ecoboost and that trucks power is pretty impressive I had the new 5.0 in the F150 prior to this truck and the ecoboost feels like it has a lot more power than it actually has over the 5.0
For the Ignorant..As David talked way back before the 2015's hit the salefloor. Ford was working on bringing back the *MUSTANG SVO* What is the SVO? The Mustang SVO was a limited-production version of the Ford Mustang sold from 1984 to 1986, during which time it was the *fastest*, *most expensive version* of the *Mustang* available. Although it departed both physically and mechanically from any prior version of the Mustang, it held the same spot within the lineup, both in terms of performance over "lesser" variants and in prestige, as had variants such as the Shelby tuned and "BOSS" Mustangs of the 1960s and 1970s. The *EcoBoost!* is a throwback to that Nostalgic car. Which makes it a Valid mustang.
It’s funny I just got my 2017 and exactly what you said is what I feel. Mines a manual. I drove the 2016 and 2017 Auto and the manual just feels better to me. I don’t mind the sound. If you get it to launch good it sounds pretty good. It’s only got 1,000 miles on her so I have done any mods yet and my catch can just arrived. Slowly but surely I’ll start to make mods.
Which Bama tune was he running? Did I just miss when he said it or something?
Race, Performance, or Street? To be honest, if you have to rely on the race tune to give you that serious power boost, it's not even worth it, I'll stick to lightly modded v6's.
The new Ecoboost Mustang is an amazing car. The only reason people don't like it is because its a 4 cylinder in a Mustang. It's a different concept. But 310 hp, Rear wheel drive and a 6 speed transmission is actually really good. The price is not that bad either, I have actually looked into getting one of these.
Nicely done David.
I have a 2015 mustang stock tune but I decided to change out the stock 30pound flywheel to a spec aluminum billet 15 pound flywheel and now it does not fall off on top of rpms and the car shifts wayyyyyy faster but mine is a manual
really love to see how this performs against the MS3.
Couple things I'd like to differ on, but not gunna really worry about it, but those " fighter jet " style switches were brought over from the Ford GT. It had them before the GTR and were in the center console on top.
Had a TT with a 1.8 225hp. Turbo with that was Rubber Band like. Sounds like the Turbo is small like he says to spool quicker but it could also be that it needs a waste gate that holds boost on the top and it should pull all the way to redline. The TT was exactly the same mid power hard and once it hit around 5k it was done like it just rolled over. Tweeked waste gate and it held 20#'s and pull hard to about 6000 it redline. Today with all the tech they will get the Turbo to haul.
Okay, go back to American Muscle and make them hand you the GT keys! I can't wait for you to review the GT!!!
I have driven my Ecoboost Mustang for a little over a year (25,000 mi) and can't complain about the power on the stock tune, sure it falls on it face if you try and rev it past 5k or so but that's a side effect of the small turbo. The engine has tons of torque down low where normal people tend to drive so the car feels far faster than what it really is. With that being said, I just ordered an X4 tuner to see if I can squeeze a bit more for the little engine that could.
My only real complaint about the car is the sound, the noise would be fine coming from an Focus but not so much coming from the Stang.
nice review. That tune sounds like it makes a great difference.
I can't get over how slow that transmission is to shift though. Get a Dual Clutch Ford!
I give it a year before those ecoboosts are laying down 500+ hp.
They have a dual clutch in the regular focus lol
the moment where you need groceries and it starts raining with this car... Guess I'm playing the hunger games tonight
The 4 banger looks fun with that tune!