Is This The BEST 308 Rifle of 2023?
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- Welcome To Ron Spomer Outdoors! Today is the last day of 308 Week. It's been a it's been a long week. We did three other sessions with groups of three rifles in each kind of classified in different categories, a different type for different types of shooters. So, which rifle is the best of the bunch? Stay tuned to find out.
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For the money, you can’t beat a Tikka for consistent quality, particularly the smoothness of the bolt, and accuracy out of the box.
agreed, a Tikka action and a Ruger action do not come from the same planet
Word up, best value
Agreed 100%
I concur captain
Their trigger is quite underrated as well. Especially if you swap the spring.
BTW...I enjoyed watching this new format with Chase and yourself chatting off the cuff. It's sincere and it works. The beautiful fall scenery is awesome too!
Overall the savage seemed to do the best with all three grain weights in the first video.
it just weighs a ton. I have the exact rifle and it shoots .5 - .25 W Hornady black 155g. I shoot from a tripod from a blind across a field ( 240 at longest distance). So its easy to shoot, but carrying that thing anywhere.... you better be fit.
The thing is a howitzer though. I can’t imagine walking to my stand with it.
Ron, I think you should re-test these rifles with the same ammo, but only the threaded models and with a suppressor. Watching you shoot, I think you're pulling some shots, the amount your body moves, hand coming off the rifle entirely. Tame that recoil down by 40% and I bet those groups tighten right up. For 90+% of hunters, if the recoil is such that you cannot spot your shot as it goes downrange, it's too much recoil to shoot all that accurately.
the recoil was clearly a factor. Anyone watching can see that. @@Ds07777
I loved the whole series. Im a .308 lover. I got to meet Melvin Forbes at the New Orleans S.H.O.T. show about 25 years ago. I got to handle the lightest out there at the time. I met Col. Craig Boddington, John Sundra, Tink, and others. We love you, keep up the good work.
Picked the wrong Tikka for 308.
Try something shorter for balance with slightly more weight. 308 CTR is my baby. 20inch semi varmint with the heavier 10rnd mag contributng to the position of centre of gravity. Better than the T3x Lite. Ruger with Tikka quality.
They didn’t pick the wrong tikka. I had one identical to the one they’re shooting and it was sub MOA with anything you fed it.
I'm not at all surprised the Ruger American did well. As you say, any given example of a given model can vary from one rifle to the other, but time after time, review after review, comment after comment, I have seen that Ruger Americans just tend to be consistently accurate with tighter than average groupings. Especially for such a budget rifle. But equally as important, they also seem to be a lot less finicky about what ammo or loads you put into them from what I have seen too. They just tend to shoot a wide array of ammo accurately, which is a quality that is not easy to come by. Every aspect of them may not be perfect, but they sure can shoot. There's no doubt in my mind about that. It's amazing how accurate some budget rifles are these days.
My Predator .308 has had the bolt buttered, bored out the barrel channel and filled then had the barrel and action cerakoted Jesse James Green. Hands down the best deer buster for the $$$. Although nothing I did changed the accuracy, it was already pretty good.
Agreed. I haven't shot many, but "unfussiness" for lack of a better word, is the best way that I can think of describing the Ruger American rifles' best quality. Mine are by no means lasers, but they just don't seem to care what you feed them to any great degree. I have a .22 Voere that literally will not chamber anything other than CCI standards because the tolerances are so tight. So, it's a great thing for a rifle to be able to use any ammo particularly with the lack of supply recently.
Ron, can you please get ahold of a Savage 110 Ultralight? I'd love to hear your thoughts.
I also wondered what they'd think of the Savage 110
I’ve had the savage in 308 ultra lite for three years,,and I love it ,,threaded barrel ,,22 inches ,,,trigger came out of the box at an even two pounds no creep ,,I hunt with a lot of clothes on and as soon as I got this rifle I shortened the length of pull to 13 and a half inches which made it extremely comfortable to shoot with a lot of clothes on ,,it will shoot one ragged tear at a hundred yards with IMR 4895 and 168 grain gold dot bonded bullets.
Ron! I have been a .308 guy for years. Kinda because of the military reasoning. However, after this series with the history and the ballistics you gave, I’m now not as fond. I love the .243, 257 Weatherby, .270 and plain Jane .30-30. I find them more fun actually. Once again thanks, this was really eye opening and I won’t feel so guilty about letting my .308 x2 fall to the back of the safe a bit.
I found it interesting that with the savage you shot one ragged hole with 150 grain and today a 1+1/2 inch group with the 150.
He’s not erik cortina leave him be
He shouldn’t have that extra cup of coffee.
Welcome to savage !
@@TexasLonghornRanchit's a real thing. I shoot b4 I eat breakfast. Plus coffee and groups are gross. Twice as bad if I have nicotine.
7:08: I’ll go ahead and just say it. As much as I love watching his videos discussing cartridges and length, Ron is doing a terrible job at recoil management. His shooting hand comes flying off the rifle, and the butt pad dips down underneath his shoulder pocket. I seriously doubt he’s able to still see the reticle while he’s breaking the shot.
The front rest is too high, and Ron heavily blades away from the rifle, with only his right bicep available to absorb recoil. He would greatly benefit by squaring up behind the rifle, and with a consistent firm hold, drive the rifle straight back to the rear.
To be honest, I’m kinda surprised to see this bad of a shooting form from a prolific gun tuber. It would do Ron some good to reach out to Phil Valeyo and Caylen Wojcik at Modern Day Sniper and take a class on natural point of aim, second sight picture and recoil management.
Why not test the Howa and Weatherby Vangaurd. Best valse for money.
I have a CZ 550 Mannlicher stocked 308. I glass bedded the stock with a large pressure pad at about 2 inches off the muzzle. It shoots 5 shot groups with everything I've put through it under 1.25 inch. With the best handloads and factory favorites it is about a .75 inch 5 shot gun. I do like it a lot!
Haha...there a a few rifles I hide from my girlfriend! The Wilson Combat NULA looks like a sweet rig but I'm a sucker for the Tikka. Best BANG for your BUCK out there!
I would have been interested to see a CVA Cascade in the mix.
I can see why he chooses lighter cartridges his shooting form is terrible. Ron talks a good game but his groups tell me everything i need to know. In capable hands several of those rifles will shoot sub moa
Enjoyed the 308 win videos. Would liked to have seen the m70 win. And the cva cascade in the competion.
Stole my comment
I like' em all!
Picking from this group it would be Ruger for hunting. With a decent scope you have yourself a shooter you aren'tworried about scratching. I'll take the Savage for more distance and the AR 10 platform for something needing quick follow up shots. Here we have proof that expensive doesn't always equal best accuracy. At least from the factory loads we have here. With tuned handloads and some practice familiarizing, any of these rifles would be good shooters in my humble opinion.
In the end I have a propensity to want to do my own work on my rifles. Here that puts those you can buy prefit barrels for and have a lot of aftermarket accessories at the top for my safe.
They do still make rifles with walnut stocks, right?
We all want to know if our rifle made the list…
Where’s the howa 1500 superlite? I already know Ron would go with that one. Also the tikkas only have one size for the action. Which makes it so easy to re barrel and change calibers. Only down side to them is no threaded barrel on them
My Tikka came with a threaded barrel, they make them both ways
Copout, Ron. You remind me of Billy Martin doing a beer commercial.
“I feet very strongly all 9 ways.”
I am abandoning this type of online rifle comparison.
Still watching your cartridge comparisons, etc.
Note: this comment has been heavily modified for amiability.
Pussyfoot, you need to watch a little Honest Outlaw (not with your wife. Maybe not with Covey.)
He has Henry Rifles all P.O.E.D. with him right now. Saved me a lot of money.
Boy tells it like it is.
bergara B-14 Wilderness ?
Come on Ron you didn't even test the Savage Impluse in 308. A nice accurate straight pull design. Maybe you don't like groups with touching bullet holes
Put that tikka in an mdt chassis, watch it run sub 1/4" group
I have that setup and I love it
My favorite 308 hunting rifle is the one that I don't have.. yet 😊
I like the Ruger Hawkeye Compact laminate.. the Browning Micro Midas.. the Henry Long Ranger.. the Remington model 7
To name a few..
I've had two 308's that I've sold.. a Savage 110 and a Savage 14 American Classic ( beautiful firearm )
Who doesn't see 308 Winchester everywhere on the shelves ❤
I like my Mossberg and Howa better than the Nula at $4k nearly. I put my whole .308 suppressed rig together including the can, scope, mount, sling, fees etc for only $1540. If I wanted something that light, I'd have to go for the Howa SuperLite line and get a sub 5lb rifle for $1050 or so and then add scope etc.
This is a fun series, I'm glad to see Ron sit behind quite a few of the .308s My new favorite for the .308 is the Remington 700 SPS Tactical that was made after July of this year. Comes stock with the new Timney trigger and it shot the smallest group I ever have at .13 inches at 100 yards. I have owned several .308s and for some reason I keep going back to it.
Mine is a few years old, maybe 2015 ish. Barrel rusts easy and the trigger needs an upgrade
I got the 16" version of this and I went through 3-4 .308s before staying with this one. groups are fantastic.
@@brandonm6052 The 2015's were NOT made by the same company. The new Rem Arms company has new leadership and new tooling and produce firearms that are VASTLY superior to the rifles made by freedom group. I have a 2023 as well and it shoots .44MOA with Nosler factory 223rem. Every new remington 700 comes with a timney trigger and a blueprinted action.
@chaseacklam6174 ugh I should trade up then.
@@brandonm6052 There is a really big difference in quality and performance, but just know that you’re really buying the barreled action. The stocks are pretty terrible, but everybody I know puts their 700 in a McMillan or an AG composite stock
JMO, but to fairly judge all examples the same model scope should be used. Not all optics are created equal.
Puts the Tikka down and then proceeds to have magazine dropping issues, safety issue, cartridge feeding issues and mushy trigger complaints. Because the tikka has a longer non-threaded barrel. Lol.
When watching the videos I was unclear on which rifle was being talked about at times. Probably good to say what the rifle make/model is immediately after you pick it up, and again before you put it down. Thanks.
The Sauer 100 is in the same price point as a Tikka but the Tikka is just a better rifle!
Ruger americans are ok for money but feeding with there craptastic mags and trigger is iffy at best...ill take the tikka for few hundred more and have flawless feeding and just bring it to gunsmith and have it threaded if i so choose
Ron picks the most expensive rifle. Go figure.
CVA Cascade would be another to try!
I'll stick with my Weatherby Vanguard.
1/2in moa with handloads and an ergonomically designed stock that tames the recoil beautifully.
I would have definitely had a Weatherby in the review!
Vanguard is a howa 1500 action
The Tikkas are built on a standard action, not an optical illusion! They just use a bolt stop on the short action cartridges
I'm surprise Spomer isn't more versed on the Tikka!
@@grantcallegari Tikka's big gain in popularity is fairly recent, at least for someone like Ron, who, as it says in the description, has been writing about the "outdoor life" for 44 years. I suspect that a lot of his familiarity with newer rifles comes from companies sending him new models or sponsoring hunting trips. It is possible that Tikka doesn't do that.
How did Ruger manage to make the American series so damn solid at that price? It seems like we're in an age where added cost has become a matter of min-maxing and preferred feature sets. I'm loving it!
Well...a good accuracy from a package that usually doesn't have the hallmarks of a good rifle...filmsy stock, trigger, rough action, feeding problems...the real question is how come it shoots 1 MOA when the stock is warping and touching the barrel at random spots. After you wear out the barrel of a Ruger American, the action, trigger, and stock aren't probably good enough to justify a re-barrelling of the rifle...but its also at a price point where you could probably buy a whole new rifle for the same as a rebarrel would cost on another...so nothing lost.
so...to answer: probably mass manufacturing, along with probably the best business/manufacturing/inventory management out of all the gun companies. Typical gunsmiths/gun companies aren't known for either...good gunsmiths prefer to make each rifle they touch the best it can be...and that'll never work on a massive scale like Ruger. Remington and a lot of other manufactures ended up making promises but released stuff that didn't work...but Ruger stuck to the "it works" formula...but there is usually something wayyyyyy better for just a little more... my .02
they focused on what matters (barrels, shooting) and left everything else cheap .. like stock .. coz they know .. aftermarket will take care of the rest .. perfect formula if you ask me
@zvonimirpastuovic1116 Fair enough. MDT just started offering the new Field stock for the American, too. It looks like the stars are aligning. :D
@@CntBckt most def bro, i will buy Ruger predator soon and pair it with MDT chassis .. what i see on the web what ppl do looks so good and such fun xD
@@zvonimirpastuovic1116 Hell yeah. >:D
If still available, the Mauser M18. Budget price with lots of the right stuff. Like, field strippable bolt, flush 5 round detachable mag, short bolt throw, great trigger and darn good ergonomics, at a budget price😊
Anybody can pick a "high dollar" option!
All 3 rifle you throw the last shot. Might be shooter area. Also stop talking while your shooting can cause flyers.
I don’t think I would trade my 20 year old 700 Remington.270 for any of those rifles but just partial. Good videos Ron 👍👍
Grandad is that you ?
Great review!!! I almost bought that Tikka, but I bought a Bergara B14 Hunter and it is the most accurate rifle. I can easily get 2 +- inch groups at 200 yards using my pet reload Nosler 150g Expansion Tip solid spitzer on top of 43g of IMR4895 lit up by a CCI34 in a LC case.
Bergara
Ron was actually right when he pointed out that the tikka action looks a little long. They dont make actions for caliber groups like the Sako does. one fits all😊
You're right. One size receiver and they install different bolt stops.
@@michaelmason7591
No loose tops
Solid
I just picked up a T3X CTR 20 inch barrel in 308win and i love it for a do it all gun
Ron isnt holding the gun right or doing a correct trigger pull at all the gun should never jump out of ur arms like it does when he shoots them.
He’s basically free recoiling them. That’s how lots of people shoot for maximum accuracy. It gives you the least force imparted to the gun. As long as you’re consistent you’ll be accurate
Disagree, you need proper wall set up by the pull into the shoulder to ensure consistency.@@K-bob_45 Any force of the gun moving backwards is force not imparted to the bullet. You really notice these things at long range. I've done it. It usually happens after the first few shots too. We get used to the recoil, and "handle it" by relaxing a bit more. It could be the reason for the inconsistency in the video.
@@TheHunnyRunner exactly.
@@TheHunnyRunner I’m not dismissing your opinion, because I pull the gun into my shoulder pocket too, but it is common practice in F class and benchrest to free recoil. The people shooting 1” groups at 1000 and scrapping barrels that won’t shoot sub 0.2” at 100 shoot this way. I’m not going to argue with them.
Right. But they do that on sleds. It's an all or nothing thing. You can have consistency with a free recoiling cannon, but if you have to shoulder it, it will change the forces applied. Consistency is key. Variables/tolerances stack :P@@K-bob_45
Never has a rifle been made, with a plastic stock, that was beautiful! Sorry but I don’t buy it. I’m also pretty sure that I’m younger than most of the people who would call me “Fudd.”
Cant beat the look of a fine grade or laminated wood stock.
My Remington 700 .308 sps tactical has bad barrel quality honestly I need to have it cerakoted
Ruger was the best =you had the low flyer
I've had my Ruger American Predator in 308 for about 6 years now and it has been my go to hunting rifle. I use the Hornady Precision Hunter 178gr and I've taken elk, whitetail, pronghorn, and caribou. Next year I'm going to Texas to hunt aoudad ram but I'll be using Barnes TSS just because they are the toughest little animal I've ever shot.
My first rifle is a Tikka t3x UPR. Added a scope and hit everything I aimed at right out of the box. Wonderful rifle.
1955 Savage M-99f 308 is all I ever needed
I bought the ruger American when they first came out - shoots lights out up to 350 yards awesome gun. I have Bergara , ca rifles the ruger stands with them all and has taken the most game .
That expensive Wilson looks like it gives you a purple shoulder and didn’t really seem to shoot much better than the rest 😄 , great overall video 👍🏻 still love my 6.5 Creedmoor.
I think that Ron did this series because it has become a meme that he hates the 308. Also, putting "308" in the title probably get him more views. Although the 6.5 Creedmoor is an excellent cartridge, there seems to be a lot of people who just love to hate on it.
Almost hard to believe that last shot from the Ruger American wasn't a pulled shot. Maybe it wasn't, but goodness it's flying way out of the "2 shot group".
He's got a few pulled shots throughout this vid unfortunately.
The savage axis with the new magpul hunter lite stock is my choice. Every other bolt gun is severely overpriced in this market. there’s no reason a bolt gun should cost more than an AR 15. They are much simpler to manufacture therefore they should cost less.
It seems that Ron is the factor that changes. It's not easy to shoot consistently day after day. It's hard to do that day by day. Training and using the same exact procedure each time is what is stressed in the military. Ron is a good shot and he has experience but he doesn't shoot every single day consistently using the same rifle and procedure.
It is VERY easy to shoot consistently with these rifles, they should all be sub moa. But fudd hunters will be fudd hunters.
It’s unlikely that any of these rifles are actually sub moa, a few 3 round groups is statistically irrelevant. You can shoot sub moa with a howitzer if you shoot enough groups, but a 3 round group offers nothing for the dispersion that can be expected over time.
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I used to have a Molot Vepr 308 rifle with 20.5 barrel and 20 round mags. I don't think that Americans can get them anymore. Why? Russian made.
I own a couple of Tikka’s T3X in 6.5 CM and 300 WSM. And a CA Mesa in 6.5 PRC. Also own the Ruger American Predator in 6.5 CM. The Ruger was 400.00, and shoots every bit as well.
Don’t take me wrong Ron.
I think you need to rework your shooting stance on the bench.
During the all the tests most of the rifles knocked you out of posture
Maybe you are slightly canted on the bench, and not absorbing the recoil with the shoulder
Best regards, very nice video
Almost every shot, his trigger hand was knocked off the grip. The shooting seemed rushed at times. There are many more rifle brands than these that can shoot very well. As well as ammo brands, there are more available.
You choose a RAR over a Tikka T3x stainless?....All i can say is wow!!
Great series, really enjoyed it. I have a DPMS G2 AR, Tikka T3x Tact A1, Howa 1500, and Ruger American. If I could only have one it would be the Ruger not that it's better than the others in fit and finish or pure accuracy but it's a sub MOA gun with my loads, the one I take hunting (used to take the G2), light weight, short enough to host a suppressor, and works well from the bench. Not much to not like. Don't get me wrong I love them all but if only one the Ruger wins.
I'll take your advice on literally everything,except your opinion on .308 and the .300 win mag lol,you clearly hate both
The Winchester Model 70 “The Rifleman’s Rifle”
I really liked this series of videos, I was really hoping you would've chose the savage to me it was the all around winner but I'm a little biased since I've owned a savage for the last 13 years and not even an expensive model.... I have the first iteration savage axis without the accu trigger chambered in 270 Winchester, that thing does sub moa groupings at 130 yrds with almost every round I put through it... At the same time though I really like Ruger and was hoping you'd pick it as well... but I think for most people, all the rifles did well and will definitely put meat the freezer. Especially when you start to talk about hand loading rounds and really dialing in the powder and projectiles
Tikka T3x Tac A1, 24" 1:11 twist...smooth ass action, , 2lb trigger, heavy enough to hold steady with ease and that compensator makes the rifle the most comfortable recoil. still haven't found a better rifle.
I can't believe you dropped the tikka for a ruger and savage hands down the better gum all the way around smoother bolt crisp trigger and a Lazer. Sorry Ron I don't agree with your take on this one
Seeing that even Ron doesnt get his desired MoA makes me feel a little bitter about my off days. Even still, his bad groups are my best day. Absolute legend 🤠 always learn watching your videos.
Serious question, not just trying to be an ass, but how do you have an off day from a mount? Shooting from a mount tests the rifle, shooting off hand tests the shooter. If you’re shooting from a mount like he is, it’s a bad day for the rifle, not the shooter.
What's the last rife at 27:32?
That Tikka needs a different scope. With a different/better scope, the Tikka gets my vote.
You missed out on a Winchester 308 lever gun...
I have the Winchester 70 Featherweight... love that rifle and no way I'd ever sell it. It's just too pretty and accurate
I bought a CVA Cascade in 7 rem mag. I'm very impressed with this rifle and the price was great. The trigger was similar to a Timney trigger made for a rem 700. It has a Bergara barrel because they're owned by the same company. The Stock looked plastic, but it's actually a fiberglass stock. It's much stronger feeling than most plastic stocks.
Good info, thanks. I looked it up and BPI Outdoors owns Bergara and CVA. So it is very likely that CVA has barrels made by Bergara.
@@cacinaz8802the action and barrels are made by Bergara for the CVA !
I noticed when he shot the reminton he didnt shoot it right at all. Then the last video when the guns jumped out of his arms like the remington did. That is what makes 1.5 grouos bad trigger pull and follow through.
Rifles like Ruger can be tack drivers, rifles like Tikka it's rare that they are not tack drivers.
Can I suggest that you be more specific about make, model, barrel length as you introduce them and reintroduce them. I lose track. Thanks.
Not just different loads of ammo, different brands also
I have a heavy barreled old school blueprinted Savage Model 10 used to only use it for competition and am a 3006 guy for hunting and I soup it up. But as of late have used the 308 more and more to avoid massive meat destruction. I load from 2800 to 3000 fps depending on situation and find the slower ones great on deer and antelope and you can eat the antelope pure lung destruction and no blood meat. Did take an elk at 350 yds with all copper Winchester Copper Impact and this 5x5 had a 4 inch exit hole and took 3 steps. I have gained a great respect for the 308 and have 7 loads for it. I do have 6 for 30-06 which makes my 338 win obsolete. The 30s rule in US. The snipers will be sorry when they burn out barrels in the Creedmoors really they should keep the 308, it will be like the FBI trying to replace the 9mm. You can always back line the Snipers with 50 BMGs the 308 is a perfect hunt them down scout sniper rifle. So consistant and hard hitting.
Ruger bolt I do not like. I own a redline Springfield Armory in 308. Absolutely love it. Simple and solid, 1/2 MOA at 100 yds. Around seven pounds with scope, 20" barrel, sweet....
Yup I got the exact ruger 308 and with my nomad Lt it's perfect
Couple shots were way off due to shooter error. Maybe talking up to the point of pulling the trigger?🤔
Surprised Browning BAR DMag not mentioned. Also Surprised Henry Lone Ranger not mentioned. They are my favorites.
Cva could have been the big underdog in this Competition . Let's change the caliber to something more civilized and test the brands you guys didn't test. Do it for the people Ron.
I have the same AR 10 with the Giselle trigger. I absolutely love it! So accurate. I have it topped with a Leupold VX5 fire dot. I agree it is too heavy to hunt with, at least out west where I am. But if you are eyeing one of these, you can't go wrong.
I see the .308 as fine military cartridge. But i do not see it as usefull hunting cartridge. Period.
NOT A SINGLE WINCHESTER IN THE TEST SERIES!!! Nor a Howa or Weatherby. Come on, fellas. Sorry for the rant, but find it odd that you'd ignore the brand that introduced the cartridge to the commercial market back circa 52-53.
I'm new to hunting, so this video was very frustrating. Many times, guns were called this, they, it, them.... WHATS THE GUN YOUR TALKING ABOUT.... refer to them by their manufacturer and model for us new guys.
This is a bs video the video is best rifle in 2023 yet none of them made in 2023 maybe 1 or 2 of them was but the rest r older rifles not brand new 2023 models
The best .308 rifle is the one I have. It's accurate (1" @ 100 yds.), it operates smoothly, it's dependable, and it's paid for. BTW, it's a Ruger but not the American. It's the Gunsite Scout
This guy complains about everything. As a saying goes.. bad dancer says his balls are in the way!
Now if we could get 7mm-08 ammo at that price. Some AI use to cross over for balance max of punch & flat shooting! Ammo Makers...Can you hear us? 😂 Thanks for considering:) Please🙏
I have that exact Remington 700 in 22-250 and YES I too got pitting in the end of my barrel, I had to take it to a gunsmith and have him shorten and recrown the barrel.
Settin in front of that maple is perfect ron….ive get me one of those tables…I handload and test as my #1 hobby and layin prone for 3yr has got to change…all these groups are within the first 100rds of the rifles and I guarantee you after a few and right fouling they’ll tighten up…I shot a actual 1 hole 3rd group with my 6.5prc waypoint with 135a tips and n560 cci primers…same size as a single hole and can’t determine where 1 center is vs another to even measure…right at 3k fps
Always check the crown ,,,before installing breaks ,that’s the last the bullet touches ,untorqued screws ,there’s more ,great vid !
This is the first podcast I have seen out of the series. With that said, I have scoward the internet for groups with the Remington model 700 alpha 1. Was this in any other of these segments? I would really like to see how it does. When I was younger and used the latter model 700"s I really liked them for out of the box accuracy.My dad as a matter of fact shot and won competitions with a model 722 out of the box. But over the years, I have steered clear of them due to sub-standard performance and quality. But I have been very very curious of the alpha 1. Might you be able to direct me to where I can find more info on the remington model 700 alpha 1? Or could you do a segment on it? And to include groups sizes as you are doing here.
I really enjoy all the info you give us Ron. Thank you for taking the time to respond to me in the past. It has been greatly appreciated.
I would really like to see h9w the Alpha 1 performs all around with group sizes.
Thanks again Ron!!
If you REALLY thought that first rifles group shot a raggedy hole…. Then maybe you shouldn’t be the one doing the shooting. That’s NO WHERE near a 1 hole group 😂
The ruger is by far the cheapest and biggest bang for the buck, I had one I the American standard I love it s9 much I picked up a second one
Ron I notice your whole hand comes off the grip when the gun kicks….
Long time subscriber and did not realize they made high dollar 308 shotguns. No offence but maybe lay off the coffee with the constant stock tapping and action cycling, you got the jitters bad! Hope all is well with you medical ways.