This is one of those stories in the bible wherein the barbarism is unapologetic, even among its modern defenders. Kill everyone with a penis, babies and all? Of course, they say, what else were they supposed to do? Rape all the virgins? Well now, they say, those virgins were treated okay by ancient standards. Fuck you. This is supposed to be GOD's command - and GOD is not supposed to be subject to our standards, no matter the era. Sorry, but these modern day defenders of barbarism get to me. If you liked this video, you might also like my Power Corrupts series. Here's a playlist for that: th-cam.com/play/PLv--V1yc2QDJi6hFNhur3iAsyFpXRtB8w.html Also, if you wish to support my work & interact more directly: www.patreon.com/DarkMatter2525 Thanks, everyone!
I'd like to tell you about one example of Christian morality applied in action. In the religious conflict called the 30 years war (1618-1648), the Catholics besieged the reformed city of Magdeburg (Germany) for several weeks in the name of the pope -> counter reformation and all. It was a large city at the time with about 30.000 people and when the Catholics finally sacked the city on the 20th of may 1631, they killed about 25.000 people (with raping and looting of course). The responsible catholic general count of Tilly wrote about it "I believe that over twenty thousand souls were lost. It is certain that no more terrible work and divine punishment has been seen since the Destruction of Jerusalem. All of our soldiers became rich. God with us.". Pope Urban VIII expressed his satisfaction that "the nest of heretics" was destroyed. So they killed about 83% of the population in less than 4 days with only 17th century weapons. Compare that to the 39% of the population of Hiroshima dying during the entire year of 1945 which includes being nuked of course. After the 30 years war, Europeans were tired of violence in the name of Christianity and the enlightenment began which focused less on religion and more on understanding nature through logic, reason and evidence. But thanks Jordan Peterson for teaching that Christianity is the foundation of our morality!
'Test the spirits to see if they hold true'. But what IS truth when getting into a moral issue as difficult as this? And is it really appropriate to constrain all the ideas and possibilities of proposed divine guidance to one old book that struggles to define which generation would see the end of history, and confused it's own adherents during their own lifetime vs Rome?
@@Eva94995I would say consent is still more correct. As someone can’t mind read to tell if your consent was fake, and you don’t actually want to have sex.
Woefully, it seems as though this is only something humanity has only codified within the past century, if not far more recently. There have only been a few decades where the law has considered that it was possible for a man to rape his wife. And so, we had perfectly common euphemisms such as "wifely duties".
"It was different times then". That's my favorite defense I hear. As if watching your family being murdered in front of you and then being raped that night by the same man who slaughtered your parents, brothers and sisters, is somehow made more acceptable by the fact that it was "different times". But to the person watching their parents being slaughtered, and then being enslaved (I'm sorry, "married") and raped by their murderer, it isn't "different times". It's the here and now to them. It's the present moment. If the Israelites did in fact commit these atrocities and then justified it with God's rubber stamp, then they were among the most depraved barbarians in the world at that time..... I'm sorry, I mean they truly were "the Chosen People".
@They say it was a command from god. I don’t believe that but that is what churches use to justify it. I’m saying that it was wrong and that if there is a just god, they would never command such a thing. Or they would at least not tell them they can kidnap all the virgins. I’m not expecting the ancient people to act better but I would expect the “objective source of all morality” to behave morally in any time period. That means that either the men lied and said god told them, were crazy and thought god told them, or god is a monster. Although, if the men had to lie to make this okay, that means part of them realized what they were doing was wrong.
So many Christians say, "that was the old testament, we are told to love one another". They can't cherry pick the parts they like and ignore the parts they don't.
...But didn't the council of Nicea (?) actually cherry-pick what books would go into the bible, leaving out a lot of other ancient texts? ...I mean, saying the old testament isn't really valid anymore is somewhat reasonable... However, they tend to cherry-pick that too...like hating gay people, but eating pork, wearing mixed fabrics, and working on Saturday. I'm glad it's not my religion anymore.
+against trees Your purpose is to live & let live without letting a charlatan in a clergy shirt scam you by accusing you of being a piece of shit because of Adam&Eve's fruit eating mishap, unless you repent & cough up some cash.
+against trees Salvation is a solution to a problem the religion scam has created. It's like someone going around cutting people with a knife in order to sell band-aid..
Honestly never became religious, though my family was. When I was about twelve I got curious and started reading my grandmother's bible... she got really mad when I started questioning everything and then said she doesn't necessarily believe in the Bible, but in God. I asked "then you are not christian?" She slapped me and didn't talk to me for months
It sounds like she may have had a voice inside that was saying what you were asking her, and while she could just ignore those thoughts, hearing it out loud from her own grandchild was not smth she could easily brush off. I’m sorry she took that frustration out on you
I think main reason anyone does the Christian LARP is they want to be part of a community of non-degenerates and have families and keep their lineages going. For some reason when people abandon religion they also fail to reproduce. It's why I'd LARP as a Christian, since it seems every single woman that has rejected religion also becomes an anti-natalist, even though I think Christianity is retarded mental gymnastics and there is no personal god.
My family is not religious, they believed in a higher power but were not a religion: in elementary school a friend from my class invited me to their church. Instinctively I was hesitant and said no thank you. The person then said “well if you are not Christian and attend church you will go to hell” I didn’t really think about these things then. I never thought about heaven or hell apart from my beta fish ‘going to a better place’ I got anxious about going to hell- I started wearing like 6 crosses and wanted to go try church. My parents took me and while it was pretty it never felt right- like I was going through the motions. I was an odd kid- I had a notebook I drew monsters and dragons in and I remember the church personnel telling me I was Involved in dark things and was going to hell. I was then very confused. I wore the crosses, I was at churches, yet im still disobeying god. I started looking into the Bible and realized it was.. trash. I didn’t know what it meant to not agree with the bible and further searching led me here and to other TH-camrs where I learned more and became confident in being an atheist. I was young then, so I had many instances up to now where people took issue with this, but I have not wavered in my views.
Could you imagine how heartbreaking it would be for your grandmother to live 6+ decades only to find out this one thing she counted as irrefutable was all a lie. Not many would want to accept that our handle it well. Let her be happy
Not just Christians. Also applies to pretty much every other religion too aside from Buddhism because that religion is a glorified yoga class that barely even qualifies as a religion.
This story and others like it were from the history of the Israelites, not those of the Christians. It is difficult for Christians to accept what happened in these cases, but because of a belief in the God of the old testament they have to find ways to make it palpable. Here is an article on how this has been done, in case people are curious. www.bethinking.org/bible/old-testament-mass-killings
Imkluu - interesting link. I've read similar rationalizations / justifications before. Sad how many people can't see outright genocide for precisely what it is, and feel bound to selectively condone it, simply because it is conducted at the orders of their God. I like how some of them try to argue that it never happened. Who knows, maybe it didn't, but the likes of Dennis Prager and William Lane Craig seem quite fine with it happening, and will perform all manner of intellectual contortionism to preserve the purported divinity of their 'good book'
Quin Skew 😖 Unfortunately, not always for the better at present. On3 example is the opposition to medical or surgical procedures despite overwhelming scientific research supporting them. Here in 🇬🇧 we are still refusing to accept the inclusion of folic acid in white bread as a defence against spina bifida. Once again, religion has a deleterious affect on secular morality.
Rixton you just watch this video where Christianity and religion is corrosive itself, and you're going to say secularism it's corrosive? You know, the thing that for the most part stop the religious wars, gave us medicine and saved lives, steamrolled civil rights? Yeah sure okay buddy.
Well, What a surprise. It's been years since most, if not all, brands of flour add iron and folic acid to their products in order to prevent some nutritiocious defficencies, here in Brazil.
I have been an atheist for long, but this video made me cried. It reminds me how cruel humans are. Satan is not real, but humans are real and all the evils in the world are done by humans blaming satan's doing.
Glad to hear you freed yourself from mental constraints. Don't think of it as stupidity or egotistical behavior. If you're raised or converted to thinking that something is true, of COURSE you will accept it as the best thing to put your trust in. The moment you free yourself from religion though, use that experience to reflect on how other people are essentially TRICKED into having such dangerous beliefs, and be open minded to them, because you might be the one to help them see their religion's flaws too.
It wont be easy for people to change thier mind.. I was a strong believer myself and whenever I saw an issue in the Koran, I just tried to forget about it or find any other reason to ignore the fact because I was too scared of hellfire. I became openminded when I first smoked weed, I wasnt scared anymore to think critically about my religion. please dont think that im a Drug adicct because I smoke weed 1-2 times a month, I just do it to reach a higher state of mind and to stay openminded ^^
Do a video: if Jeffery was God. Plot idea: God gets fed up with Jeffery always bitching about his ways and tells him he cant do better. Jeffery disagrees and God and him enter a bet. God creates a parallel universe exactly like ours for Jeffery to God over. In a short time Jeffery's world achieves world peace becomes more technologically advanced than and a bunch of other good things. God visits Jeffery's world to see how badly things are going but is surprised to see everyone is happy and constantly praising and worshiping Jeffery (on their own free will).While Jeffery is telling god he was wrong, God Thanos-snaps his fingers and the whole parallel universe is destroyed. Jeffery asks why and god is like "i'm a jealous god. didn't you read my book?"
I know it's been months but how do you know that? Have you ever met a God? How do you know they don't eat, sleep or reproduce? We may think we have an idea of what a "god" does or doesn't do but without actual evidence to this we just don't know. Just because you are convinced of something doesn't make it true. We don't even have evidence that a "God" exist in the first place, just words written in a book by humans that claimed inspiration from the God they wrote about. Bring evidence instead of a narrative without proof.
The Programmer of video games, what a perfect answer. And may I add, that the most powerful anti christ country, under Stalin.... was not a ‘happy place’ .....or do you people think it was?
I recently lost my faith in God and began to question His existence after 11 years of trying to serve in the ministry. I was as devout as one could get in Christianity. Discovered DarkMatter's channel a few months ago and it's really helped me make sense of a lot of things. THANK YOU Darkmatter! When a person is raised from childhood to believe in a religion 'or else' and is ever lucky enough to start questioning God's intentions and then his existence, it leads to what feels like insanity. Most go back to their religion out of fear but if you push through it you'll realize that you don't have to have "all the answers" in order to have peace. If one can accept the fact that "they don't know" about certain things without invoking God, then progress can finally be made. For example, a year ago I was involved in a Motorcycle Ministry that turned out to be a Gang. Today, I just got accepted into a college where I'll be studying Mechanical Engineering and then go pursue a career at SpaceX several years down the road once I graduate. If I stay on this path, 6-10 years from now I'll be working on real life space ships that will be used to colonize Mars.
Paul Johnson You better start working on that space ship to mars fast cause we got Islam and sharia law knocking on our back doors here in America and Europe and all 1st world nations and not to mention we got all these leftist nut jobs helping them and low IQ 3rd world people flood our borders coming in to breed us out. This world will be pure hell on earth in the not to distant future.
Paul Johnson Hang in there. God is not done with you yet... The worth and dignity of a soul is measured by what it delights in! The Gospel is the good news that sinners can delight in a Holy God. It's the good news that all of our deepest desires are satisfied in the ONE who sent His Son to bring us to Him. God is so valuable and so satisfying that the most loving thing he could do for us is to make Himself gloriously indispensable. Therefore, God's commitment to be glorified and our goal to be satisfied are not at odds but come to simultaneous consumation in the worship of His Son... who took upon Himself the Wrath that God had towards us in our sinful disregard of Him. A wrath that could never be appeased through man-made religion. Jesus didn't die to turn the world into a paradise, he died so that we could stop seeking paradise in the world... Temporal things such as beauty, popularity, money, sex, racial identity, gender reassignment... can never truly satisfy. BECAUSE WE WERE MADE FOR SO MUCH MORE! We were made to gaze intently into the Eternal Beauty of a majestic King, Father, and God... meet Jesus the Christ. Life is hard, God is good, Glory is coming God Bless!
@Raven Knight, Good news for you! The BFR(Big Falcon Rocket) that SpaceX plans to build it already being built at Berth 240 at the Port of Los Angelos. Early next year, the BFR will be conducting sub orbital test flights. Three years from now(if all goes well) two automated cargo variants of those space ships will be going to mars. 5-6 years from today, two more BFRs will be leaving for Mars carrying people and Elon said it should take 80 days to get there. So by the time I get the education and experience in Mechanical Engineering to qualifiy for the job I want there, they'll already be colonists on Mars. Elon Musk understands all too well what you're talking about and his entire motivation is to create a self sustaining civilization on Mars so that if/when another extinction level event occurs either through mother nature, war or in the eyes of the religious, an angry God, lol humanity will have a plan B. Who knows, if we end up bombing ourselves into the dark ages those living on Mars might be able to help whoever surives WWIII get through those dark ages a little quicker.
if you want a brilliant theory why this is the fact, hear the podcast of mark passio th-cam.com/video/oiCnrn6LkUo/w-d-xo.html its long but it need to be to explain the story (it has connections to the bible too)
People still want to control other people now. What changed? Fact checking, global education level, disapproval of things without evidence. Sadly, we’re not there yet. There are still a lot of people who believe very stupid things (earth is flat, GMO is bad, vaccines cause autism and ect.) without evidence and scientists consensus. But I think we are slowly moving to the right direction. There are more atheists and pragmatic, skeptical people now than ever in known history.
I just started watching Darkmatter (2021) and all I can say is WOW! Entertainment and thought provoking at its best. I wish I could have seen these 40 years ago. You are a genius (in my opinion).
Sadly using logic to reason with religious Dogma is like smacking your head against a brick wall and then having to say sorry to the wall afterwards for being intolerant of its personal beliefs.
There is no point in debating against things in the world such as religion, politics and why and how humans exist with other people who don't share the same beliefs. So, you don't believe God do you? That's pretty obvious, heuh heuh. So according to scientists universe happened by chance and this world just formed by chance meaning that there was no reason at all behind it and it was just pointless. Evolution also happened by chance and we just formed perhaps from fish and we slowly evolved to where we were. There was no reason at all behind it. This means to that human existence is nothing but a completely random, pointless and meaningless event in the universe. Now, you know what this means kids? Well think about how massive the universe is and how small we are. This means that we are nothing but little pathetic creatures who aren't any different than animals. There is no such thing as rationality or morality. Well, to begin with if there is no God then our morals aren't coming from an outside source and they are just illusions created by us to add some sort of meaning. They are also indoctrinated into us by the law and our parents meaning that they are kind of fear based. Burning a forest is no more different than reading a book or becoming a doctor is no different than being a singer or even a manic serial killer. There is also nothing wrong with going to prison. Rationality also doesn't exist. You are all trying to look cool and trying to look smart in your every day life in front of others. Only one problem. Being cool and smart doesn't exist. The universe doesn't fucking care and we are all fucking animals! If there is no meaning to life thenThere will be no afterlife and some day where there is no consequences for our actions. We will not remember we existed one day. In fact, one day nobody will remember that the universe existed. Any emotions we feel are pointless and won't matter one day? So why don't we all just go crazy? You all have to keep pretending that life makes sense. You continue going through struggles, trying to get good jobs, being all gloomy and serious and you hold onto values which are just illusions of the mind such as friendships and relationships. At the end, or even now, it doesn't matter who you dated, what you did while you were alive or how long you lived for. So we may just all go crazy. Just run out and do whatever you want! Burn the local police station and laugh about it, dress as a clown and run around killing people. But stop being all serious about life! Trying to make some sort of fucking sense out of it. You all still cringe at things, continue getting angry voer bills n'shit and asking why people do 'retarded' things. Nihilism and complete madness is the way!
Religion says God is always good and moral,yet his actions are anything BUT moral!!Those who should teach religion are left confused when even kids can observe the contradictions in it!! It goes something like this: Students:Why God allows evil if he is all good? Teacher:Because god gave his creations free will. Students:But when evil peoples take the free will of others,why God doesn't stop them? Teacher:... *God knows better,stop using your brain!* Here is another example: Students:Revenge is a bad thing or a good thing? Teacher:Revenge is a bad thing.Bad peoples should be treated with good. Students:Why? Teacher:Because if someone gets used with good they will eventually become good as well. Students:Then why God punishes bad peoples with Hell? Teacher: *Next question!* (true story)
Christianity was made by the satanic Roman Empire by stealing ancient knowledge from ancient civilizations. Believe it or not, I do and I believe that the reason Christianity is so popular is because THEY want it to be. Do you really think that the people who knew the supernatural secrets would just speak them out? No! Of course not. Wise people throughout europe and africa were literally forced out of their land and got instinct. Such example are the wise druids from celt. They had ancient powers and have even claimed to pursue miracles and speak to nature. They were also kicked out of their own land. Being a christian is ignorance.
yeah! luckily i'm in an atheist family but when i was little i knew about some of the stuff that the christian god and other gods of other religions did, and i was like, man, gods are jerks.
Actually, he already made one. There's also one made by non stamp collector. It's more comedic than dark matter's style, but it really highlights how absurd it all is. Don't have the links rn, @ me if you want them
Speaking as an atheist, please try to keep in mind that only a subset of fundamentalist Christians take the story of Noah's flood literally. To be sure, they are often very loud, and as you say, VERY tiring. But it is rather clearly a story borrowed from older religions than Judaism. Others take it, at most, as a record of what some people, long ago, once believed. And for that reason, it's good to keep that history. But it does not mean that it needs to be believed as truth. Anyway, yeah, DarkMatter2525 covered Noah and the flood many years ago, and did a pretty good job of it. Not hard to find via search.
I'm noticing that some of DM's newer videos hit on the themes and ideas from his older work. What's amazing here, though, is the fresh spin on things he puts those ideas, and avenues he explores more than in those older videos. Creationist arguments might've been debunked a thousand times, but there's a million more ways to animate why they're wrong.
Another amazing presentation...I was a Pentecostal preacher and for 15 years led others into what I believed was the "Way." I have turned to intellectual pursuits now that I hope will Persuade them to think for themselves. Thank you so much for the work that you do... It means so much more than you know and is a tool that I am currently using in my personal fight Against the tyranny of religion.
With all due respect, you probably should have never been a preacher if you can't see the problems with this video. It completely removes this Biblical event from its context and even lies about major details like the r*pe of the virgins.
Former Pentecostal, what made you leave, and when you did what did you do. When I left-not a preacher just pew person I had zero foundation and came close to going made, doing much today but two decades later still has hooks in me.
AntiCitizenX You wanna see amazing... The worth and dignity of a soul is measured by what it delights in! The Gospel is the good news that sinners can delight in a Holy God. It's the good news that all of our deepest desires are satisfied in the ONE who sent His Son to bring us to Him. God is so valuable and so satisfying that the most loving thing he could do for us is to make Himself gloriously indispensable. Therefore, God's commitment to be glorified and our goal to be satisfied are not at odds but come to simultaneous consumation in the worship of His Son... who took upon Himself the Wrath that God had towards us in our sinful disregard of Him. A wrath that could never be appeased through man-made religion. Jesus didn't die to turn the world into a paradise, he died so that we could stop seeking paradise in the world... Temporal things such as beauty, popularity, money, sex, racial identity, gender reassignment... can never truly satisfy. BECAUSE WE WERE MADE FOR SO MUCH MORE! We were made to gaze intently into the Eternal Beauty of a majestic King, Father, and God... meet Jesus the Christ. Life is hard, God is good, Glory is coming God Bless!
What I love about DM's stuff is that there's been a progression from funny athiest cartoons with some interesting points to emotional, truly thought provoking videos. There is clearly a lot of passion and research that goes into these and it shows. Keep up the good work!
Why do supposedly "Moral" people defend and worship this Yahweh/Jehovah? I was a "Christian" for over 25 years but i really did not thoroughly read The Old testament so i was duped all that time. It was not until(last year) i not only read the whole Bible but also researched outside of it that i had a total awakening to what the bible really is saying. Even the new testament is very flawed when you read it without all the indoctrination and fears it instills in people
honestly im so over"faith" that when someone says "you gotta take it on faith" or "you just have to have faith" i die laughing in their face, i just cant help it its so rediculous
I was wondering why there were so many apparent plot holes in it and why you reused the god animation, and then it all made sense when it was revealed that he WAS god, and all the plot holes just were tied up. Brilliant video. You never cease to amaze me with these videos.
Some people say that they turn away from christianity and believe in there own god cause no one wants to believe in a god that the book says killing children and people who havent learned god is real but it is hard to find him from the mixed up stolen real history
@@guillaumelane8392 my grandma refused to even read numbers 31 to show how I read it wrong after accusing me of misinterpreting it. After I read it aloud her excuse was that she read it years ago. I called her dishonest and Afraid to believe that she was wrong about her god and that was that. :/
David hatcher yeah... the problem is that people sometimes have trouble admitting they’re wrong, when they’ve been covinced they were right for so long. they just think "if i’m wrong, who am I ?" just like if their existence was based on a lie, that they gave themselves. these people who are not uqed to doubt things, don’t realise that we all live based on lies, because we don’t understand or know much. That’s why we also know to be cautious and prefer truth-seeking to claimq of truth-holding
What seemed like such a familiar plot twist got turned on its head twice - me thinks the dark matter is strong in this one! Good thing I'm an Atheist or I might have soiled my linens several times in this video and lost control of my sanity as well. Truth...no...no... not the truuuuuuuth!!!!
I believe in the Bible and I'm still sane. I watch these videos because how does one make one's beliefs stronger without listening to the less easily refuted arguments? You don't get a good workout from light weights. Also, I have views similar to Mark Twain in which I generally believe in the Bible, but I'm not sure that I believe in some expressions of mainstream Christian doctrine. There is a huge difference between the two.
I lost my faith a while ago. I used to try oh so hard to believe in a god, to justify so many things but then when it all piled up and I looked upon it all... I concluded there was no God. ...It's hard to explain that feeling. A feeling of crises. It's not a good feeling, but once you realize something... it changes you. Changes your view on things. Now, i'll admit... I'm not the kind of person to go around yelling "There is no God!" and stuff. You believe in God? Good for you. I won't say shit. Just cause I don't believe in it doesn't mean I'm gonna force others not to believe in it. I respect it since it gives people hope when they need it, but i'm not a believer in it anymore.
The Yemen genocide today is being carried out by the Saudis, with backing from the US. Close to 100,000 people have been killed since the war began in 2015, and there is famine and a massive outbreak of cholera due to the blockade of the country. When given a chance to end US involvement in the war, the president vetoed the resolution. There is no end in sight for the conflict, and both the previous and current administrations are responsible. Let that sink in for a minute.
fadeboss xd nope... actually happened. His details are off and there is much spin, but God did command their destruction... as He will command yours unless you repent of your rebellion against Him and trust the propitiation of His Son!
At the age of 40 i feel born again by giving up my old faith! With a dad that was a pastor, it was very difficult to question everything. I was finally able to brake away. Thank you for helping opening my eyes!
I have such strong feelings regrading organized religion. I just want people to wake up and see how harmful it really is. Even other atheists are a bit shocked when they talk to me. But they've never really been there, most atheists I know grew up atheist in atheist families, they don't understand the true impact religion has on people. But I was born in a "strong" Pentecostal family, I've seen the cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias so many times. I have been at the mercy of angry parents and teachers when I asked questions (in spite of being told to ask questions) about things that didn't make sense to me as a child. When I was as young as 5, I have seen people "speak in tongues", and being "slain in the spirit" and running around in church during alter call like chicken with their head cut off (which makes a child feel really insecure, seeing adults act crazy). I was shamed for being a female and having a "womanly" body. I was told not prepare for a future because I would be killed for god because the tribulation would happen before I turned 18. And so much more. I am so grateful for these videos because you get it. You really understand how harmful religion is, thank you for making them. It's so therapeutic for me.
I'm sorry you went through that insanity. I'm an ex-christian woman as well and when I look back at the views they made me believe about my womanhood and my body and the guilt I felt, I feel so happy I'm not caught in the dogma anymore. I've never felt more alive or secure in my own skin than I have without Christianity. It sickens me how I was expected to believe masturbation is wrong and women aren't "allowed" to have any positions over men in the church because men are the "head of the household". I don't ever want to feel pathetic like that again. If men want to exalt themselves and use religious dogma to extract control over each other, that's fine but leave the rest of us out of it. Women will not be your servants and our children will not be heirs to your moral perversion.
It's possible there was some deep rooted fear about women in there. An ancient culture possibly around in those times were the Natufians, who were thought to have been significantly matriarchal.
starrystarrynight52 You should read "Conversations with God" by Neale Donald Walsch. Here's an extract from Book 2. Religion it is not good for you. Understand that in order for organized religion to succeed, it has to make people believe they need it. In order for people to put faith in something else, they must first lose faith in themselves. So the first task of organized religion is to make you lose faith in yourself. The second task is to make you see that it has the answers you do not. And the third and most important task is to make you accept its answers without question. If you question, you start to think! If you think, you start to go back to that Source Within. Religion can’t have you do that, because you’re liable to come up with an answer different from what it has contrived. So religion must make you doubt your Self; must make you doubt your own ability to think straight. The problem for religion is that very often this backfires- for if you cannot accept without doubt your own thoughts, how can you not doubt the new ideas about God which religion has given you? Pretty soon, you even doubt My existence-which, ironically, you never doubted before. When you were living by your intuitive knowing, you may not have had Me all figured out, but you definitely knew I was there! It is religion which has created agnostics. Any clear thinker who looks at what religion has done must assume religion has no God! For it is religion which has filled the hearts of men with fear of God, where once man loved That Which Is in all its splendor. It is religion which has ordered men to bow down before God, where once man rose up in joyful outreach. It is religion which has burdened man with worries about God’s wrath, where once man sought God to lighten his burden! It is religion which told man to be ashamed of his body and its most natural functions, where once man celebrated those functions as the greatest gifts of life! It is religion which taught you that you must have an intermediary in order to reach God, where once you thought yourself to be reaching God by the simple living of your life in goodness and in truth. And it is religion which commanded humans to adore God, where once humans adored God because it was impossible not to! Everywhere religion has gone it has created disunity- which is the opposite of God. Religion has separated man from God, man from man, man from woman-some religions actually telling man that he is above woman, even as it claims God is above man- thus setting the stage for the greatest travesties ever foisted upon half the human race. I tell you this: God is not above man, and man is not above woman-that is not the “natural order of things”-but it is the way everyone who had power (namely, men) portrays it.
Oh - I've been reading those. Interesting - but a bit too prone to many New Age style pitfalls. And there was something slightly suspect about that Club of 1000 group he worked with...
starrynight52 - Wow, I've got nothing on you... I'm just a recovering presbyterian. Nowadays, I identify as a Humanist Atheist and an insignificant member of Humanity. I recognize you and offer my greetings!
@@mattjames5407 No. No it's not hard to make sure it's correct at all. What kind of moron types something and then posts it immediately without reading it over again?
I think many people are getting confused, dark matter doesn’t want you to think religion is bad or limits you to just that specific set of belief. His videos are to show how you simply need to be a good person yourself rather than justify your actions based off your religion.
YES, I'm so sick of the constant "ReLigIoN BaD hErhErhErh". Be a better person, Don't let your morality be bound by Religion, saying this as a Religious person.
You can be Christian and still believe the Israelites were barbarically wrong, IMO. You just have to treat the Bible as something that was written by biased men who lied about God's will and got some parts of it right.
The only problem with atheist videos is that the TH-cam algorithm thinks videos about religion = religious person so now I keep getting ads of people trying to convert me to a Christian :/
RandomGuy Hang in there. God is not done with you yet... The worth and dignity of a soul is measured by what it delights in! The Gospel is the good news that sinners can delight in a Holy God. It's the good news that all of our deepest desires are satisfied in the ONE who sent His Son to bring us to Him. God is so valuable and so satisfying that the most loving thing he could do for us is to make Himself gloriously indispensable. Therefore, God's commitment to be glorified and our goal to be satisfied are not at odds but come to simultaneous consumation in the worship of His Son... who took upon Himself the Wrath that God had towards us in our sinful disregard of Him. A wrath that could never be appeased through man-made religion. Jesus didn't die to turn the world into a paradise, he died so that we could stop seeking paradise in the world... Temporal things such as beauty, popularity, money, sex, racial identity, gender reassignment... can never truly satisfy. BECAUSE WE WERE MADE FOR SO MUCH MORE! We were made to gaze intently into the Eternal Beauty of a majestic King, Father, and God... meet Jesus the Christ. Life is hard, God is good, Glory is coming God Bless!
Blaaz101 aren't you the same guy that claimed to be a deist? So that means you believe in a god right? So tell me, what evidence do you have for this god?
jane Patton My man, you reply to my comment with all this bullshit about your "god" and yet you have no proof thereof. You expect me to believe these things? If I gave you a similar story, but with the spaghetti monster as the "god", you wouldn't believe it, right? You wouldn't accept the spaghetti monster as your "god". If so, then give me one reason why I should accept your one instead. And try not to make that reason rely on an ancient book written by tribesmen. That wouldn't help your argument.
RandomGuy "You expect me to believe these things?" No I don't, because you can't believe... at least not right now. But if God has mercy on you, trust me... you will believe. "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith -and this is not from yourselves, IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD -not by works, so that no one can boast." - Ephesians 2:8-9 God Bless
No matter what happens to me, ever, I will not believe. Last year was the hardest period of my life. If something was going to make me believe, it would've been that year and its events. But it didn't. And I'm happy that it didn't, because it just proves to me that my mind isn't that fragile; I am not brainwashed. And this, this only, is the reason people like you refuse to see evidence as a valid source of identifying correct hypothesis. No, let me correct myself; you refuse to accept evidence as a valid source of identifying correct hypothesis in the field of religion. More specifically, in the field of your own religion. Because when it comes to dismantling beliefs of other religions, you're going to use evidence, any evidence that you might be able to find. But, unfortunately, when it comes to your own beliefs, they are immune thereto. Immune to criticism, immune to doubt. Because "god" said so. Because "our holy book" said so. "It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person". I'm not sure if you recognize this quote. I think it applies nicely to this current scenario, and every scenario similar to this, wherein a believer argues with a non-believer. Yet, there is something about it that I would change, for this case specifically. I would change the word "stupid" to "brainwashed". Because most believers in general are not stupid. Yet, when indulging in this argument, they act in the same way that a stupid person would. Because they firmly believe in something, but the smart ones can notice themselves the lack of evidence to support it. Yet they are so stuck on that specific set of beliefs, that they choose to ignore their usual method, the _scientific_ method, and instead opt for blind belief. Of course, were they to use the scientific method, they would easily infer that the argument for "god" has no basis. This isn't exactly me replying to you. I'm not writing this comment for you, +jane Patton. I'm writing it for other people, who might be confused, and that might be reading this. I want to tell people where I've been led to after lots of thought, which may help them understand what they want to believe themselves. I doubt you'll have anything to say that'll be worthy of me replying, so I will most likely not do so again. Your previous reply, after all, was exactly what I had asked for it not to be.
Before I found this channel, I decided to read the Bible for myself and without a doubt, it was THIS very verse that planted the first seed of "wtf is going on here? This is a good and perfect God's command?" It was a long struggle... Started when I was 16 and it took about 5 years on and off. I'm 24 now and being sober the last 3 years has really opened my eyes to the power of the mind as it struggles to make sense of itself, society, and reality
The Programmer of video games I did finish reading the whole thing anyway (ok I may have skipped the verses that literally described how to build the freaking holy desert shrines with specific cloths and whatnot). And actually, at the time, I was heavily anticipating what the apologist books I had bought at a conference would say to refute these. But.. they either failed to mention relevant issues, brought up pseudoscience BS, or they didn't adequately defend the Bible's obvious flaws. Better yet, newer books I bought conceeded older arguments and instead the authors withdrew to playing the "god is beyond human logic" game. So I read the Bible again. And... Well, let's just say that reading this book is the fastest way to commit aspostasy
Dr.Craig would say that the slaughter of innocent babies is actually a good thing because they are gonna be saved and be with God in eternity. This is just an example of a person who sacrificed his own ethical intuitions to insane and irrational ideology.
I was brought up by a religious parent, forced to take bible classes and attend church weekly. But I always knew it was wrong. I believed it though and these story's terrified me! But I always knew deep down that it was morally wrong. Whenever I questioned anything I was told that I have to take it on faith. That whatever happened had a long term goal of good 😑
No the Bible isn't wrong, you just never actually repented of your sins and believed in the Gospel of Jesus Christ alone for salvation from your fallenness and total depravity. This video is super weak.
@@Akihito007 you are absolutely right. How do you discover the absolute truth? What versión of the bible do you recommend, let me guess...KJV? You should go around telling people the truth. You obviously have the absolute right interpretation of scripture where thousands of others who disagree with you are wrong. Does God speak to you directly?
@@tambert3897 So you mean to tell everyone you either have no conscience and are a total sociopath or you DO have a conscience and are just being obtuse when it comes to actually reading comprehension relating to the Bible. Honestly every written form of communication involves a hermeneutic that is used to interpret anything. This just shows the intellectual DISHONESTY that "atheists" and God haters have when they can fully understand every other novel and piece of literature in their own and even other languages but suddenly when it's the Bible, all of a sudden they pretend it's written in some secret version of Martian that noone can understand. The willful ignorance and self deception is outstanding and pitiful at times :/.
This is by far one of the best one-off videos you've come out with. The twists and turns, the story and lesson. I really hope a lot of people following my social media peep this and pay attention
Your most powerful, commanding and mentally demanding video yet! Beautiful yet disturbing, you get the tone spot-on. The message is well and truly delivered!
I lived in Texas for more than a decade. Your concise summary is spot on, with one exception. The second religion of Texas is american football. Otherwise, this is very true.
I don't know why, but your videos make me feel like we are on the brink of enlightenment. We are standing on the edge of a precipice, behind us are the younger generation, coaxing us away from the edge, and at the bottom is the older generation, thinking only for themselves, urging us to jump.
Kleo3392 no. The older generation is thinking only *about* themselves... sorry. And the younger generation is telling us not to jump in, not to follow their lead and to think for ourselves.
mark schiavone more millenials Consider themselves atheist or nonreligious than the previous generation. More millenials are perusing higher education than any previous generation. More millenials identify as progressive and liberal than the previous generation. How is this claim unfounded? The newer, younger generations are rejecting the claims of the older generations and perusing the knowledge for themselves. We stand for environmental protection, freedom from and of religion, freedom of speech, equality across all walks of life. Now yes, I will say that I am using a pejorative when I say "the older generations" because I know not all of the members feel the same way, but a majority of them do. It's not just religious, it's also political. As you pine for the good old days, we are trying to make the future a better place.
The OMG World !! Rofl, I thought the Samson video was awesome. I always like stories and was happy to get free content. I used to joke about people who had Faith whenever I was around them. I was, still am pretty evil. Getting baptised into the RCC next year at Easter. So I am sort of enjoying a few more months of Sin before I renounce the evil one. But TBH, I will probably regret it at the judgement.
I THINK so, but since the man in white made it plain he was only an extension of the preacher's ego, maybe not. It might be completely unrelated video. As much as I am enjoying the very serious offerings, I gotta admit, I miss the old Jeffrey (and God).
Just become a patreon after watching your videos for years. Truly changed my whole perspective. I wish I could give more but maybe when I get my raise. Hope to be your top supporter!
When I tell theists that the bible is the greatest horror book ever written, they condemn me to the most horrific hell they can imagine for ever-and-ever for making such a statement…
I think they would end up debating the nature of "truth" like Jordan Peterson did with Sam Harris. One thing I do like about Peterson is how he argues that for their time, these stories conferred an evolutionary advantage to the groups that followed their doctrine over the groups that did not and this is why religion persisted. I think this video is a good argument that it is time we used our brains to take the next step in evolution and dispense with the bible, it is outdated.
"Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you." Disobeying a direct commandment from God is a grave sin, and the punishments vary but are generally draconian. But all that is Levitical law which was overridden by what Jesus said. Unless you can show me where Jesus says there is a grave penalty for sodomy?
I recently deconverted as a 18 year old fundamentalist christian and I've had many doubts about that, but videos like this show me that going back would be a mistake, thank darkmatter25 for all your hard work and dedication
A bit of a non-squitir but I always found the idea of time travel co-existing with a God kinda interesting. Like, if you travel back in time is God suddenly thinking "wtf, where did this new person come from?".
Religion was created to steal the land from the original people, and manipulate the masses in order to convince them to do particular actions and control them in compliation with other programs and tactics.
Been there, friend. Not because of this video specifically though, because of a lot of things I've come across. Dunno where I'm at now. Kind of a deistic agnostic, ya know? I don't quite trust any of the religions, but that doesn't mean I think it's all nonsense, either.
Wow on this one DarkMatter, I want to tell you, your videos helped me a lot after I deconverted from Christianity last year. I used to read those passages in the bible like Chapter 9 in the book of Ezekiel and be horrified, there's multitudes of them where children, babies and adults are all ordered killed by "God". I had preachers tell me, that whatever God does is justified and even heard nutty theories like the Nephilim for the justification of genocide. I also thought of the Egyptian Babies killed in the book of Exodus at God's command when the pastor in your video was outraged by the slaughter of babies.
The medianites actually were demons, only in a metaphorical sense. The pagans in Canaan used to perform horrifying rituals; among other things, they'd sacrifice their own children at random. If they existed today, I'd be all for their extermination.
We'd need more proof as well though, and whether they were protected from that at some earlier stage - free will and all that. Or do demons get more free will than future human generations?
"they'd sacrifice their own children at random" so it's better to murder said children all at once? oh wait, only half of them... the other half has to become sex slaves. yea well sorry, murdering and enslaving the victims isn't justified no matter how much you smear the alleged victimizers.
Yes, it is. You can't get rid of a bad culture like that by asking them nicely. I'm not supporting taking their women alive (though not as sex slaves, still no).
I know some very nice Christians. Friendliest people in the neighborhood, would never throw a newborn infant's head to the pavement. But ask them about this story for example and all of a sudden they talk like they dash infants everyday
I appreciate your sentiment, but our goals seem to be different. My fight is against liars and the spread of (for lack of a better word) bullshit. In that, these videos help *a lot* . You'd be surprised at the amount of religious fence sitters out there waiting for that shimmer of truth. I used to be a Muslim until I found these videos. If they can do that for me, I'm pretty sure they can for others too.
Everytime someone replies to "Jesus Christ" it sounds like they are swearing, I love it. "Jesus Christ your fight is against windmills" "God dammit your fight is against windmills" "Jesus Christ Don't bother"
Why would an infinitely powerful and good god create us so that we can simply worship him for all of eternity, or suffer for all of eternity if we fail to do what he commands us to do? "The punishment for sin is death." Disrespecting your Father is ultimately punished by death? How is this just, or even GOOD in any way? That's Authoritarian crap. If there is a finite amount of evil in the world but an infinitely good being with infinite power, the evil CANNOT exist because the infinite contrary overcomes that which is finite. Can somebody try to explain this to me? I'm going through a crisis regarding my faith, and I'm coming to realize that many of the answers to questions regarding my religious beliefs are excuses for "I don't know," or are flat out wrong. I feel like I'm going against everything I've been told when I accept that some of my questions CANNOT and WILL NOT be answered until I die, if that. I'm confused.
I'll try to answer some at least to the best of my knowledge and understandings, please take with a grain of salt. God created man essentially to be his friend, hence the free will and in his image things. Death can be seen as a limiter to how much sin we can commit. The longer we live the more sin we commit. God is separate from his creation so his creation has its own qualities. What is freedom without choices? What are choices without consequences, without right or wrong? you could say the material world is the domain of darkness. One way i look at it when it doesn't make sense why all this would go on for so long is that if time is a creation of God then what is time even to him? Also, important not to look at the Bible as a scientific book or tool when it was never meant to be that. The study of faith and/or philosophy is separate from the scientific study of the material world. A lot of these sort of "Christian Science" ideas such as a young Earth, the Earth only being thousands of years old, really just shouldn't even exist. They are pulling scientific ideas out of a nonscientific object. I dont think i know enough about the event or topic of the video to address that at the moment. Research the orthodox church. A lot of the negative ideas people may have of Christianity may come from protestant teachings. Some may still be unchanged.
Sounds as though you’re beginning to realise that logic and reason are alien concepts among the god squad. Good luck in casting off the shackles of senseless Christian doctrine
Now And Never No Marx advocated violent revolution, and a dictatorship of the proletariat to transition, which would and did mean the deaths of countless innocent women, men and children for that ideology. You don’t get to skip to the end.
Crown9, David Pakman did a show that briefly went through explaining a lot of these isms. The advocation of revolution was definitely in the explanation of Marxism. Thanks.
All forms of statism require violence and coercion to maintain. A mixed economy is not pure capitalism, it is corporatism, and so requires a state. Free association, voluntarily entered without coercion, without impediment is the only path that can be ethically justified within a consistent framework, and will naturally approach capitalistic tendencies.
Hey darkmatter2525, I just want to say thank you, thanks very much for changed me from closed minded conservative muslim into critical thinking, you change me from a muslim to agnostic and now im an Atheist. Im from conservative muslim country that hard to change and surrounding by indoctrination muslim everyday, I just want to say im so proud and glad and sometimes feel lucky too to found your channel. I feel myself so freedom and in the right path now. So soo free I feel im like wow im in independence. 😄 Now I forced myself to keep my atheism secretly here because well you know. People here will act like triggered barbaric cannibal if they see an atheist, not just that, in my country they got religous authorities aka religious police 😑 Now when I thinking back in past i realize how stupid im before when im an religious especially muslim.
@@wtfhahahaha I've heard about a lot of women bring jailed or even killed for taking off their hijab even though it's supposed to be "a freeing choice"
I feel like this video is so important for people to see. For those of you raised atheist, it must be mind boggling to think that so many people so fervently believe the stories of the Bible when there is so little evidence. And looking back, yeah, some of the stories are absolutely crazy, but, at the same time, I feel like part of me always knew that. Part of me, especially as I matured and learned to question new things, has always truly known better, that so much of the Bible is simply not logical, but another part of me wanted so desperately to believe it was true, to believe that this was the story of a loving God who was really out there and gave my life and those around me comfort and meaning, and thus that part of me worked desperately to make excuses to fool the other half, working, begging that I could still believe this good story to be true. But the story depicted in this video brings it all crashing down. The God of the Bible is not the all good, all loving being we’re told he is. That God is cruel, that God deliberately ordered some of the most despicable actions I have ever heard of, and that God is someone I should not want to spend an eternity with. Forcing myself to realize that also forces all those excuses and barriers to come crashing down. Why fool myself into believing in this terrible story? Why allow myself to continue the cycle of humans who have made life miserable for others in an effort to appease this being? Why allow myself to continue believing a lie when that lie has brought so much hurt to so many people? Due to my extremely religious upbringing, I still feel uncomfortable calling myself an atheist. Maybe I’m still terrified that this terrible God might one day decide to enact his vengeance upon me. x) But at the same time, I feel extremely uncomfortable calling myself a Christian either. Maybe I’m an agnostic, or maybe I’m a Deist, someone who believes in some sort of God out there, but not someone who believes that this God can ever fully be known just by reading a likely fabricated old book, certainly not one as barbaric as the Bible. Regardless, in huge thanks to this video and the others on this channel presenting these damning issues in an incredibly professional and thought-provoking manner, I find myself no longer bound to my own lies, and no longer bound to this cruel, merciless God who wants me to inflict suffering on others. I’m free to chart my own course through life on my own accord, and I hope to make it worth it.
small percentage of people are raised atheists. most of people you see here are deconverted christians, recalling what they believed in without scrutiny because they were raised with that belief. so now they can enyoj the bible as fictional illogical comedy that it is. i know what you mean. you dont want to label yourself atheist because you still fear that voice in back of your head that you think is god testing you thats just truth wanting to get free. its not god testing you by inserting logical questioning in your mind. i came to peace with my atheism after i realised that if god is real and all loving and all knowable, he wouldnt punish me because i questioned his existence and in the didnt believe he exist. he would understand my reasoning which is sincere that there is no evidence for god existing. but after many years of atheism. im sure in one thing for certain. that none of religions in human history are inspired by god. if god is real. its not god from any manmade religion from human history. i conisder myself being atheist towards personal gods. like jesus and allah. but as you said, there might be something out there which we may label as god. but its not some bearded humanoid who looks upon humans and takes notes on who is eating shellfish and having gay sex. so that he can punish them specificaly so if i must label myself. i would say im pantheist at most people usualy just imagine it either their personal religion they believe in is real, or no god exists whatsoever. they dont conisder every other practiced and not practiced religion out there.
Joel Alexander She argued that they maybe took the girls and young women as daughters and not for sex/wives. And then argued that Moses did it but god didn't command it so that makes it okay god must be the most irresponsible person EVAR! When I explained why these arguments fail she gave up and said I'm reading it wrong when I asked her to prove it by reading it herself and showing my intereptation is wrong, she refused and said that she read it long ago so she doesn't have to. I was pretty insistent but she didn't budge so I said that she was being childish, dishonest and cowardly she scoffed and denied this. I lost some respect for her that day, she's like a liar for jesus or one of those callers on the atheist experience. smh
David hatcher take some advice from the sausage party movie, you won't get anybody to believe you by showing them evidence, you have to show them a better way. It's summarized but that's pretty much it.
This is one of those stories in the bible wherein the barbarism is unapologetic, even among its modern defenders. Kill everyone with a penis, babies and all? Of course, they say, what else were they supposed to do? Rape all the virgins? Well now, they say, those virgins were treated okay by ancient standards. Fuck you. This is supposed to be GOD's command - and GOD is not supposed to be subject to our standards, no matter the era. Sorry, but these modern day defenders of barbarism get to me. If you liked this video, you might also like my Power Corrupts series.
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DarkMatter2525 way ahead of ya on the power corrupts series I loved those videos just wish there was a big finale to take down yawae
This was just glorious.
Interesting, thanks dark matter... people make excuses for an Idea
Who is going to show this to Craig?
I'd like to tell you about one example of Christian morality applied in action. In the religious conflict called the 30 years war (1618-1648), the Catholics besieged the reformed city of Magdeburg (Germany) for several weeks in the name of the pope -> counter reformation and all. It was a large city at the time with about 30.000 people and when the Catholics finally sacked the city on the 20th of may 1631, they killed about 25.000 people (with raping and looting of course). The responsible catholic general count of Tilly wrote about it "I believe that over twenty thousand souls were lost. It is certain that no more terrible work and divine punishment has been seen since the Destruction of Jerusalem. All of our soldiers became rich. God with us.". Pope Urban VIII expressed his satisfaction that "the nest of heretics" was destroyed.
So they killed about 83% of the population in less than 4 days with only 17th century weapons.
Compare that to the 39% of the population of Hiroshima dying during the entire year of 1945 which includes being nuked of course.
After the 30 years war, Europeans were tired of violence in the name of Christianity and the enlightenment began which focused less on religion and more on understanding nature through logic, reason and evidence.
But thanks Jordan Peterson for teaching that Christianity is the foundation of our morality!
If this were a real pastor he wouldve made a sermon of how the devil tempted him to doubt the Bible.
Braulio Diaz XD
Omg you almost made me choke on my cereal there lol. Your comment is so true
The mental gymnastics people of faith have to do should be an olympic sport
This is, indeed, a good point. Dmatter chose a good person as pastor. There are plenty who are not
'Test the spirits to see if they hold true'. But what IS truth when getting into a moral issue as difficult as this? And is it really appropriate to constrain all the ideas and possibilities of proposed divine guidance to one old book that struggles to define which generation would see the end of history, and confused it's own adherents during their own lifetime vs Rome?
I want to play this in a church and see how far it gets before they realize it's not pro religion lol
i DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU
I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU
So how did it went?
Do it pussy ! :PP
do it in a mosque , dont be a pussy ;D
"It's not rape because they were married,"
Yeah, no. Rape is not the absence of marriage. Rape is the absence of consent.
Of desire*. You can consent and still don’t want to have sex
@@Eva94995 Truth
@@Eva94995I would say consent is still more correct. As someone can’t mind read to tell if your consent was fake, and you don’t actually want to have sex.
Woefully, it seems as though this is only something humanity has only codified within the past century, if not far more recently. There have only been a few decades where the law has considered that it was possible for a man to rape his wife. And so, we had perfectly common euphemisms such as "wifely duties".
Fun facts:
- The Law of Moses forbade rape.
- The Midianites practiced child sacrifice, cult prostitution, and beasteality regularly.
"It was different times then". That's my favorite defense I hear. As if watching your family being murdered in front of you and then being raped that night by the same man who slaughtered your parents, brothers and sisters, is somehow made more acceptable by the fact that it was "different times". But to the person watching their parents being slaughtered, and then being enslaved (I'm sorry, "married") and raped by their murderer, it isn't "different times". It's the here and now to them. It's the present moment. If the Israelites did in fact commit these atrocities and then justified it with God's rubber stamp, then they were among the most depraved barbarians in the world at that time.....
I'm sorry, I mean they truly were "the Chosen People".
I find it more surprising that an omnipotent god couldn’t get it right the first time
You are expecting people to adhere to moral principles that didn’t exist yet.
No, we are expecting God to adhere to a moral principle. This was a command from him.
Jessica Redekopp we are talking about people here. God is without excuse.
@They say it was a command from god. I don’t believe that but that is what churches use to justify it. I’m saying that it was wrong and that if there is a just god, they would never command such a thing. Or they would at least not tell them they can kidnap all the virgins. I’m not expecting the ancient people to act better but I would expect the “objective source of all morality” to behave morally in any time period. That means that either the men lied and said god told them, were crazy and thought god told them, or god is a monster. Although, if the men had to lie to make this okay, that means part of them realized what they were doing was wrong.
So many Christians say, "that was the old testament, we are told to love one another". They can't cherry pick the parts they like and ignore the parts they don't.
AMEN.
...But didn't the council of Nicea (?) actually cherry-pick what books would go into the bible, leaving out a lot of other ancient texts?
...I mean, saying the old testament isn't really valid anymore is somewhat reasonable...
However, they tend to cherry-pick that too...like hating gay people, but eating pork, wearing mixed fabrics, and working on Saturday.
I'm glad it's not my religion anymore.
With the caveat of "while stating the bible is the unaltered word of god."
Dont Christian's believe that they had a new covenant after Christ came and said love one another?
Or it’s “just a metaphor”
Like what gives you the right to decide which parts are literal and which parts are meant to be read as they’re written
This was the most intense video you've ever made. I love it
I hold The Greater Insult to be his best one so far. But this one is up there.
NotaWalrus yup, totally agree
YES! I send all interesting videos from him to my religious friend so he can explain :D
I personally feel "unexpected god" is one of the if not the greatest.
for me the most intense one was the robot that believed he was going to hell and burned only for the human to realize he had just burned his chosen
"The best cure for Christianity is reading the bible."
Mark Twain
against trees I don't know whether or not that was a joke, but that statement is just plain untrue.
+against trees
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
Isaac Asimov
I have no porpose though I don't give a shit about living
+against trees
Your purpose is to live & let live without letting a charlatan in a clergy shirt scam you by accusing you of being a piece of shit because of Adam&Eve's fruit eating mishap, unless you repent & cough up some cash.
+against trees
Salvation is a solution to a problem the religion scam has created. It's like someone going around cutting people with a knife in order to sell band-aid..
Honestly never became religious, though my family was. When I was about twelve I got curious and started reading my grandmother's bible... she got really mad when I started questioning everything and then said she doesn't necessarily believe in the Bible, but in God. I asked "then you are not christian?" She slapped me and didn't talk to me for months
It sounds like she may have had a voice inside that was saying what you were asking her, and while she could just ignore those thoughts, hearing it out loud from her own grandchild was not smth she could easily brush off. I’m sorry she took that frustration out on you
I think main reason anyone does the Christian LARP is they want to be part of a community of non-degenerates and have families and keep their lineages going. For some reason when people abandon religion they also fail to reproduce. It's why I'd LARP as a Christian, since it seems every single woman that has rejected religion also becomes an anti-natalist, even though I think Christianity is retarded mental gymnastics and there is no personal god.
My family is not religious, they believed in a higher power but were not a religion:
in elementary school a friend from my class invited me to their church. Instinctively I was hesitant and said no thank you. The person then said “well if you are not Christian and attend church you will go to hell” I didn’t really think about these things then. I never thought about heaven or hell apart from my beta fish ‘going to a better place’ I got anxious about going to hell- I started wearing like 6 crosses and wanted to go try church.
My parents took me and while it was pretty it never felt right- like I was going through the motions.
I was an odd kid- I had a notebook I drew monsters and dragons in and I remember the church personnel telling me I was Involved in dark things and was going to hell.
I was then very confused. I wore the crosses, I was at churches, yet im still disobeying god.
I started looking into the Bible and realized it was.. trash. I didn’t know what it meant to not agree with the bible and further searching led me here and to other TH-camrs where I learned more and became confident in being an atheist. I was young then, so I had many instances up to now where people took issue with this, but I have not wavered in my views.
I mentioned this to my grandma and all she said was to “stop looking st all the negatives”
Yuki Silver you could say the same about being a nazi
Could you imagine how heartbreaking it would be for your grandmother to live 6+ decades only to find out this one thing she counted as irrefutable was all a lie. Not many would want to accept that our handle it well. Let her be happy
Snoogylove1 I would, but she’s the one who constantly is talking about religion. She brings it up and constantly says I need to believe in her god.
Yuki Silver At that point I'd say fuck it. Do what you will.
The first reaction of my own family was bewilderment, that "It's like you're second-guessing God!"
Creeped the f&ck right out of me.
Cognitive dissonance of Christians at it's finest.
Not just Christians. Also applies to pretty much every other religion too aside from Buddhism because that religion is a glorified yoga class that barely even qualifies as a religion.
This story and others like it were from the history of the Israelites, not those of the Christians. It is difficult for Christians to accept what happened in these cases, but because of a belief in the God of the old testament they have to find ways to make it palpable. Here is an article on how this has been done, in case people are curious.
www.bethinking.org/bible/old-testament-mass-killings
Imkluu - interesting link. I've read similar rationalizations / justifications before. Sad how many people can't see outright genocide for precisely what it is, and feel bound to selectively condone it, simply because it is conducted at the orders of their God. I like how some of them try to argue that it never happened. Who knows, maybe it didn't, but the likes of Dennis Prager and William Lane Craig seem quite fine with it happening, and will perform all manner of intellectual contortionism to preserve the purported divinity of their 'good book'
Except when doing apologetics?
@@joshuakim5240 I love how you just complimented and insulted Buddhism at the same time, lol.
Morality by religion stagnates. Morality by humanity changes
Quin Skew 😖 Unfortunately, not always for the better at present. On3 example is the opposition to medical or surgical procedures despite overwhelming scientific research supporting them. Here in 🇬🇧 we are still refusing to accept the inclusion of folic acid in white bread as a defence against spina bifida. Once again, religion has a deleterious affect on secular morality.
Sir Meow The Library Cat Like I said it changes. Wether for good or bad we never know.
Rixton you just watch this video where Christianity and religion is corrosive itself, and you're going to say secularism it's corrosive? You know, the thing that for the most part stop the religious wars, gave us medicine and saved lives, steamrolled civil rights? Yeah sure okay buddy.
Quin Skew no how people interpret the Bible changes over time as well
Well, What a surprise. It's been years since most, if not all, brands of flour add iron and folic acid to their products in order to prevent some nutritiocious defficencies, here in Brazil.
I remember my pastor told me the slaughter of the Midianites was justified. I left Christianity the next day.
amen
I have been an atheist for long, but this video made me cried. It reminds me how cruel humans are. Satan is not real, but humans are real and all the evils in the world are done by humans blaming satan's doing.
Amen to that
Yaweh is the real Satan.
@Luke Crawford proof?
@Luke Crawford Satan approves of your comment.
@Luke Crawford "~in our hearts and Bibles."
Ye, show me where they are, let's have a chat over humanity
I became free of Islam because of your videos. Thank you very much.. how could I have been so stupid and egoistic
Anonymous Congratulations!!!
Glad to hear you freed yourself from mental constraints. Don't think of it as stupidity or egotistical behavior. If you're raised or converted to thinking that something is true, of COURSE you will accept it as the best thing to put your trust in.
The moment you free yourself from religion though, use that experience to reflect on how other people are essentially TRICKED into having such dangerous beliefs, and be open minded to them, because you might be the one to help them see their religion's flaws too.
Congratulations! 🎊🎈🎉🍾
Skeletor I assure you that this liberal realizes that in the modern era Islam is the greater evil.
It wont be easy for people to change thier mind.. I was a strong believer myself and whenever I saw an issue in the Koran, I just tried to forget about it or find any other reason to ignore the fact because I was too scared of hellfire.
I became openminded when I first smoked weed, I wasnt scared anymore to think critically about my religion.
please dont think that im a Drug adicct because I smoke weed 1-2 times a month, I just do it to reach a higher state of mind and to stay openminded ^^
Do a video: if Jeffery was God.
Plot idea: God gets fed up with Jeffery always bitching about his ways and tells him he cant do better. Jeffery disagrees and God and him enter a bet. God creates a parallel universe exactly like ours for Jeffery to God over. In a short time Jeffery's world achieves world peace becomes more technologically advanced than and a bunch of other good things. God visits Jeffery's world to see how badly things are going but is surprised to see everyone is happy and constantly praising and worshiping Jeffery (on their own free will).While Jeffery is telling god he was wrong, God Thanos-snaps his fingers and the whole parallel universe is destroyed. Jeffery asks why and god is like "i'm a jealous god. didn't you read my book?"
Gideon Jamala Then Jeffery kicks God’s ass and recreates his universe while dethroning the bastard.
You're in luck! DarkMatter is a time traveler! He saw your request and made it a year ago. "God is Punishing Us!"
He's already done it.
you people hate god cause your deeds are evil that's the end of the discussion
@@danielreiman4446 Well that was rude.
"God is merely an extension of man's ego."
False,there's no evidence that a creator isn't real
@FACE GALLON large cranium
@FACE GALLON humans aren't God,if so then you wouldn't need food,water and shelter to survive
I know it's been months but how do you know that? Have you ever met a God? How do you know they don't eat, sleep or reproduce? We may think we have an idea of what a "god" does or doesn't do but without actual evidence to this we just don't know. Just because you are convinced of something doesn't make it true. We don't even have evidence that a "God" exist in the first place, just words written in a book by humans that claimed inspiration from the God they wrote about. Bring evidence instead of a narrative without proof.
The Programmer of video games, what a perfect answer. And may I add, that the most powerful anti christ country, under Stalin.... was not a ‘happy place’ .....or do you people think it was?
I recently lost my faith in God and began to question His existence after 11 years of trying to serve in the ministry. I was as devout as one could get in Christianity. Discovered DarkMatter's channel a few months ago and it's really helped me make sense of a lot of things. THANK YOU Darkmatter!
When a person is raised from childhood to believe in a religion 'or else' and is ever lucky enough to start questioning God's intentions and then his existence, it leads to what feels like insanity. Most go back to their religion out of fear but if you push through it you'll realize that you don't have to have "all the answers" in order to have peace. If one can accept the fact that "they don't know" about certain things without invoking God, then progress can finally be made. For example, a year ago I was involved in a Motorcycle Ministry that turned out to be a Gang. Today, I just got accepted into a college where I'll be studying Mechanical Engineering and then go pursue a career at SpaceX several years down the road once I graduate. If I stay on this path, 6-10 years from now I'll be working on real life space ships that will be used to colonize Mars.
That's inspiring, as for me I'll never stop searching God, or believing in him. God bless you!!
I mean it's not inspiring that you lost your faith, but it's inspiring how easily life can change for the better!!! :D
Paul Johnson You better start working on that space ship to mars fast cause we got Islam and sharia law knocking on our back doors here in America and Europe and all 1st world nations and not to mention we got all these leftist nut jobs helping them and low IQ 3rd world people flood our borders coming in to breed us out. This world will be pure hell on earth in the not to distant future.
Paul Johnson
Hang in there. God is not done with you yet...
The worth and dignity of a soul is measured by what it delights in!
The Gospel is the good news that sinners can delight in a Holy God. It's the good news that all of our deepest desires are satisfied in the ONE who sent His Son to bring us to Him.
God is so valuable and so satisfying that the most loving thing he could do for us is to make Himself gloriously indispensable.
Therefore, God's commitment to be glorified and our goal to be satisfied are not at odds but come to simultaneous consumation in the worship of His Son... who took upon Himself the Wrath that God had towards us in our sinful disregard of Him. A wrath that could never be appeased through man-made religion.
Jesus didn't die to turn the world into a paradise, he died so that we could stop seeking paradise in the world...
Temporal things such as beauty, popularity, money, sex, racial identity, gender reassignment... can never truly satisfy. BECAUSE WE WERE MADE FOR SO MUCH MORE!
We were made to gaze intently into the Eternal Beauty of a majestic King, Father, and God... meet Jesus the Christ.
Life is hard, God is good, Glory is coming
God Bless!
@Raven Knight, Good news for you! The BFR(Big Falcon Rocket) that SpaceX plans to build it already being built at Berth 240 at the Port of Los Angelos. Early next year, the BFR will be conducting sub orbital test flights. Three years from now(if all goes well) two automated cargo variants of those space ships will be going to mars. 5-6 years from today, two more BFRs will be leaving for Mars carrying people and Elon said it should take 80 days to get there. So by the time I get the education and experience in Mechanical Engineering to qualifiy for the job I want there, they'll already be colonists on Mars. Elon Musk understands all too well what you're talking about and his entire motivation is to create a self sustaining civilization on Mars so that if/when another extinction level event occurs either through mother nature, war or in the eyes of the religious, an angry God, lol humanity will have a plan B. Who knows, if we end up bombing ourselves into the dark ages those living on Mars might be able to help whoever surives WWIII get through those dark ages a little quicker.
I love that back when PEOPLE wanted to CONTROL other people God was showing himself left and right but we haven't seen much of him recently
if you want a brilliant theory why this is the fact, hear the podcast of mark passio
th-cam.com/video/oiCnrn6LkUo/w-d-xo.html
its long but it need to be to explain the story (it has connections to the bible too)
People still want to control other people now. What changed? Fact checking, global education level, disapproval of things without evidence.
Sadly, we’re not there yet. There are still a lot of people who believe very stupid things (earth is flat, GMO is bad, vaccines cause autism and ect.) without evidence and scientists consensus. But I think we are slowly moving to the right direction. There are more atheists and pragmatic, skeptical people now than ever in known history.
That's what I'm saying
God doesn't exist.
No entiendo, get a god
The moment I saw the place. I knew this was about the part in the Bible that Israelites slaughtered the village.
"The part in the bible..."?
One of the many. This is the more humane one, where the virgins were 'allowed' to live. Butchering makes horny.
I just started watching Darkmatter (2021) and all I can say is WOW! Entertainment and thought provoking at its best. I wish I could have seen these 40 years ago. You are a genius (in my opinion).
You didn't browse TH-cam back in 1981..?
;p
He *is* a genius.
This should be a movie. Somebody pay this man money to write the script!
Get your coxswain outta here!
Mr. W he used the word boss; ignore him
Mr. W you mean the means to make that movie
When you learn more about the holy book from an atheist channel as an atheist than a church as a christian.
I'm speechless. This is by far my favourite youtube channel
Was going to go to bed, not any more.
Shaun Dobbie 😂
Where do you live?? It’s only 5 here in America
In Scotland where it's always the correct time.
Shaun Dobbie It's 23:34 right now in perfectland
Oh no, not any more
The fact that DarkMatter uses unique royalty free music just ups the production value of his videos.
Sadly using logic to reason with religious Dogma is like smacking your head against a brick wall and then having to say sorry to the wall afterwards for being intolerant of its personal beliefs.
There is no point in debating against things in the world such as religion, politics and why and how humans exist with other people who don't share the same beliefs. So, you don't believe God do you? That's pretty obvious, heuh heuh. So according to scientists universe happened by chance and this world just formed by chance meaning that there was no reason at all behind it and it was just pointless. Evolution also happened by chance and we just formed perhaps from fish and we slowly evolved to where we were. There was no reason at all behind it. This means to that human existence is nothing but a completely random, pointless and meaningless event in the universe. Now, you know what this means kids? Well think about how massive the universe is and how small we are. This means that we are nothing but little pathetic creatures who aren't any different than animals. There is no such thing as rationality or morality. Well, to begin with if there is no God then our morals aren't coming from an outside source and they are just illusions created by us to add some sort of meaning. They are also indoctrinated into us by the law and our parents meaning that they are kind of fear based. Burning a forest is no more different than reading a book or becoming a doctor is no different than being a singer or even a manic serial killer. There is also nothing wrong with going to prison. Rationality also doesn't exist. You are all trying to look cool and trying to look smart in your every day life in front of others. Only one problem. Being cool and smart doesn't exist. The universe doesn't fucking care and we are all fucking animals! If there is no meaning to life thenThere will be no afterlife and some day where there is no consequences for our actions. We will not remember we existed one day. In fact, one day nobody will remember that the universe existed. Any emotions we feel are pointless and won't matter one day? So why don't we all just go crazy? You all have to keep pretending that life makes sense. You continue going through struggles, trying to get good jobs, being all gloomy and serious and you hold onto values which are just illusions of the mind such as friendships and relationships. At the end, or even now, it doesn't matter who you dated, what you did while you were alive or how long you lived for. So we may just all go crazy. Just run out and do whatever you want! Burn the local police station and laugh about it, dress as a clown and run around killing people. But stop being all serious about life! Trying to make some sort of fucking sense out of it. You all still cringe at things, continue getting angry voer bills n'shit and asking why people do 'retarded' things. Nihilism and complete madness is the way!
Life is a joke
To quote House from House MD:
"Logic and reason doesnt work on religious people. If it did, there would be no religious people."
Religion says God is always good and moral,yet his actions are anything BUT moral!!Those who should teach religion are left confused when even kids can observe the contradictions in it!!
It goes something like this:
Students:Why God allows evil if he is all good?
Teacher:Because god gave his creations free will.
Students:But when evil peoples take the free will of others,why God doesn't stop them?
Teacher:... *God knows better,stop using your brain!*
Here is another example:
Students:Revenge is a bad thing or a good thing?
Teacher:Revenge is a bad thing.Bad peoples should be treated with good.
Students:Why?
Teacher:Because if someone gets used with good they will eventually become good as well.
Students:Then why God punishes bad peoples with Hell?
Teacher: *Next question!*
(true story)
Christianity was made by the satanic Roman Empire by stealing ancient knowledge from ancient civilizations. Believe it or not, I do and I believe that the reason Christianity is so popular is because THEY want it to be. Do you really think that the people who knew the supernatural secrets would just speak them out? No! Of course not.
Wise people throughout europe and africa were literally forced out of their land and got instinct. Such example are the wise druids from celt. They had ancient powers and have even claimed to pursue miracles and speak to nature. They were also kicked out of their own land.
Being a christian is ignorance.
LOL
yeah! luckily i'm in an atheist family but when i was little i knew about some of the stuff that the christian god and other gods of other religions did, and i was like, man, gods are jerks.
Well he is god, things that are applicable to him arent to humans, your intelligence is measurable
@@savagechicken4518 well, he doesn't exist, so doesn't matter.
DarkMatter, you should do one about Noah's flood. I am so tired of theists justifying this story. I'd love to hear a video like this about it.
Actually, he already made one. There's also one made by non stamp collector. It's more comedic than dark matter's style, but it really highlights how absurd it all is.
Don't have the links rn, @ me if you want them
Speaking as an atheist, please try to keep in mind that only a subset of fundamentalist Christians take the story of Noah's flood literally. To be sure, they are often very loud, and as you say, VERY tiring. But it is rather clearly a story borrowed from older religions than Judaism. Others take it, at most, as a record of what some people, long ago, once believed. And for that reason, it's good to keep that history. But it does not mean that it needs to be believed as truth.
Anyway, yeah, DarkMatter2525 covered Noah and the flood many years ago, and did a pretty good job of it. Not hard to find via search.
I'm noticing that some of DM's newer videos hit on the themes and ideas from his older work. What's amazing here, though, is the fresh spin on things he puts those ideas, and avenues he explores more than in those older videos.
Creationist arguments might've been debunked a thousand times, but there's a million more ways to animate why they're wrong.
Anase Skyrider 😂
The Bible just kind of writes your material. You just fill it in with Talent. Some of these are just masterful writing. Brilliant.
Another amazing presentation...I was a Pentecostal preacher and for 15 years led others into what I believed was the "Way." I have turned to intellectual pursuits now that I hope will Persuade them to think for themselves. Thank you so much for the work that you do... It means so much more than you know and is a tool that I am currently using in my personal fight Against the tyranny of religion.
With all due respect, you probably should have never been a preacher if you can't see the problems with this video. It completely removes this Biblical event from its context and even lies about major details like the r*pe of the virgins.
@@AnthonyBruns Explain the context please.
Former Pentecostal, what made you leave, and when you did what did you do. When I left-not a preacher just pew person I had zero foundation and came close to going made, doing much today but two decades later still has hooks in me.
holy shit, that was amazing.
AntiCitizenX Collaboration someday between you two would be awesome.
I agree. You two are the shit!
Who wouldn't want to see Jeffrey drinking a Slurpee and God judging Canadians?
I agree with Edmond Dantes (and congrats on escaping the Château d'If, my friend). We need more of you on TH-cam, AntiCitizenX!
AntiCitizenX
You wanna see amazing...
The worth and dignity of a soul is measured by what it delights in!
The Gospel is the good news that sinners can delight in a Holy God. It's the good news that all of our deepest desires are satisfied in the ONE who sent His Son to bring us to Him.
God is so valuable and so satisfying that the most loving thing he could do for us is to make Himself gloriously indispensable.
Therefore, God's commitment to be glorified and our goal to be satisfied are not at odds but come to simultaneous consumation in the worship of His Son... who took upon Himself the Wrath that God had towards us in our sinful disregard of Him. A wrath that could never be appeased through man-made religion.
Jesus didn't die to turn the world into a paradise, he died so that we could stop seeking paradise in the world...
Temporal things such as beauty, popularity, money, sex, racial identity, gender reassignment... can never truly satisfy. BECAUSE WE WERE MADE FOR SO MUCH MORE!
We were made to gaze intently into the Eternal Beauty of a majestic King, Father, and God... meet Jesus the Christ.
Life is hard, God is good, Glory is coming
God Bless!
What I love about DM's stuff is that there's been a progression from funny athiest cartoons with some interesting points to emotional, truly thought provoking videos.
There is clearly a lot of passion and research that goes into these and it shows. Keep up the good work!
not gonna lie....that looks like Texas in the present
scruffyEA as a Texan...
You're not wrong
Lol
Yeah that’s true in some areas
@@gracesoncarthel4927 pictures?
David hatcher I live in the city but we go traveling occasionally
Why do supposedly "Moral" people defend and worship this Yahweh/Jehovah?
I was a "Christian" for over 25 years but i really did not thoroughly read The Old testament so i was duped all that time.
It was not until(last year) i not only read the whole Bible but also researched outside of it that i had a total awakening to what the bible really is saying.
Even the new testament is very flawed when you read it without all the indoctrination and fears it instills in people
honestly im so over"faith" that when someone says "you gotta take it on faith" or "you just have to have faith" i die laughing in their face, i just cant help it its so rediculous
Translation of faith: belief without evidence
@@xxXthekevXxx In that context since dishonest fucks would use its other meanings interchangeably.
@@user-ft3jq5vi2l wow
Fantastic, thought provoking content.
It's astonishing what can somehow be justified by believers in 'The Good Book'.
Ian Macfarlane ikr
It is a good book
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Ian Macfarlane The "Good Book"? You mean the *_Buy Bull?_*
SeraphimsAndAngels
bruh?
David hatcher Prove me wrong
I was wondering why there were so many apparent plot holes in it and why you reused the god animation, and then it all made sense when it was revealed that he WAS god, and all the plot holes just were tied up. Brilliant video. You never cease to amaze me with these videos.
So did Jeffrey still staying the matrix?
*Those who do not read their "Holy Book" are doomed to believe it forever*
Some people say that they turn away from christianity and believe in there own god cause no one wants to believe in a god that the book says killing children and people who havent learned god is real but it is hard to find him from the mixed up stolen real history
yeah
i know ppl who read it and still believe it.... honestly disgusting
@@guillaumelane8392 my grandma refused to even read numbers 31 to show how I read it wrong after accusing me of misinterpreting it. After I read it aloud her excuse was that she read it years ago.
I called her dishonest and
Afraid to believe that she was wrong about her god and that was that. :/
David hatcher yeah... the problem is that people sometimes have trouble admitting they’re wrong, when they’ve been covinced they were right for so long. they just think "if i’m wrong, who am I ?" just like if their existence was based on a lie, that they gave themselves.
these people who are not uqed to doubt things, don’t realise that we all live based on lies, because we don’t understand or know much. That’s why we also know to be cautious and prefer truth-seeking to claimq of truth-holding
I'm a simple man. I get that DarkMatter notification, and I immediately click.
Christian Vennemann same.
Christian Vennemann preach
Christian Vennemann same
some abomination from another dimension that name tho XD lol
Christian Vennemann meme
What seemed like such a familiar plot twist got turned on its head twice - me thinks the dark matter is strong in this one!
Good thing I'm an Atheist or I might have soiled my linens several times in this video and lost control of my sanity as well. Truth...no...no... not the truuuuuuuth!!!!
I knew it couldn't be Texas. They weren't all shooting at each other. :P
Gods morality is different from mans morality, Just saying
Catfish Cave - written by M Night Shamayla.
Iago Paschoal - Pretty sad fucking cop out since he breaks his own moral code.
I believe in the Bible and I'm still sane. I watch these videos because how does one make one's beliefs stronger without listening to the less easily refuted arguments? You don't get a good workout from light weights. Also, I have views similar to Mark Twain in which I generally believe in the Bible, but I'm not sure that I believe in some expressions of mainstream Christian doctrine. There is a huge difference between the two.
I lost my faith a while ago. I used to try oh so hard to believe in a god, to justify so many things but then when it all piled up and I looked upon it all... I concluded there was no God. ...It's hard to explain that feeling. A feeling of crises. It's not a good feeling, but once you realize something... it changes you. Changes your view on things. Now, i'll admit... I'm not the kind of person to go around yelling "There is no God!" and stuff. You believe in God? Good for you. I won't say shit. Just cause I don't believe in it doesn't mean I'm gonna force others not to believe in it. I respect it since it gives people hope when they need it, but i'm not a believer in it anymore.
I'm a Christian and find it relieving to see a comment like this on this video because there are not many well mannered comments like yours here
Good thing you decide religion based of of your experiences and ideas some people just try to force it,good for yoi
Get a god
@@j.gstudios4576 You're not a real christian
@@savagechicken4518 your joking right?
The Yemen genocide today is being carried out by the Saudis, with backing from the US. Close to 100,000 people have been killed since the war began in 2015, and there is famine and a massive outbreak of cholera due to the blockade of the country. When given a chance to end US involvement in the war, the president vetoed the resolution. There is no end in sight for the conflict, and both the previous and current administrations are responsible. Let that sink in for a minute.
All wars are bankers wars. US is the worlds cancer.
Greetings from 2024
*sees popup for Darkmatter vid* hell yeah!
same!
"But that's the old testament." ""that story is a metaphor."
fadeboss xd fuc you
fadeboss xd "You're quoting out of context."
Alastair Archibald I'm showing some of the pity defenses after watching this video.
Clint Eastwood know those all to well, funny how they apply those to every question.
fadeboss xd nope... actually happened. His details are off and there is much spin, but God did command their destruction... as He will command yours unless you repent of your rebellion against Him and trust the propitiation of His Son!
Glad to see you inspired and still kicking after 10 or so years. Love your work
At the age of 40 i feel born again by giving up my old faith! With a dad that was a pastor, it was very difficult to question everything. I was finally able to brake away. Thank you for helping opening my eyes!
I have such strong feelings regrading organized religion. I just want people to wake up and see how harmful it really is. Even other atheists are a bit shocked when they talk to me. But they've never really been there, most atheists I know grew up atheist in atheist families, they don't understand the true impact religion has on people.
But I was born in a "strong" Pentecostal family, I've seen the cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias so many times. I have been at the mercy of angry parents and teachers when I asked questions (in spite of being told to ask questions) about things that didn't make sense to me as a child.
When I was as young as 5, I have seen people "speak in tongues", and being "slain in the spirit" and running around in church during alter call like chicken with their head cut off (which makes a child feel really insecure, seeing adults act crazy). I was shamed for being a female and having a "womanly" body. I was told not prepare for a future because I would be killed for god because the tribulation would happen before I turned 18. And so much more.
I am so grateful for these videos because you get it. You really understand how harmful religion is, thank you for making them. It's so therapeutic for me.
I'm sorry you went through that insanity. I'm an ex-christian woman as well and when I look back at the views they made me believe about my womanhood and my body and the guilt I felt, I feel so happy I'm not caught in the dogma anymore. I've never felt more alive or secure in my own skin than I have without Christianity. It sickens me how I was expected to believe masturbation is wrong and women aren't "allowed" to have any positions over men in the church because men are the "head of the household". I don't ever want to feel pathetic like that again. If men want to exalt themselves and use religious dogma to extract control over each other, that's fine but leave the rest of us out of it. Women will not be your servants and our children will not be heirs to your moral perversion.
It's possible there was some deep rooted fear about women in there. An ancient culture possibly around in those times were the Natufians, who were thought to have been significantly matriarchal.
starrystarrynight52
You should read "Conversations with God" by Neale Donald Walsch. Here's an extract from Book 2.
Religion it is not good for you. Understand that in order for organized religion to succeed, it has to make people believe they need it. In order for people to put faith in something else, they must first lose faith in themselves. So the first task of organized religion is to make you lose faith in yourself. The second task is to make you see that it has the answers you do not. And the third and most important task is to make you accept its answers without question.
If you question, you start to think! If you think, you start to go back to that Source Within. Religion can’t have you do that, because you’re liable to come up with an answer different from what it has contrived. So religion must make you doubt your Self; must make you doubt your own ability to think straight.
The problem for religion is that very often this backfires- for if you cannot accept without doubt your own thoughts, how can you not doubt the new ideas about God which religion has given you?
Pretty soon, you even doubt My existence-which, ironically, you never doubted before. When you were living by your intuitive knowing, you may not have had Me all figured out, but you definitely knew I was there!
It is religion which has created agnostics.
Any clear thinker who looks at what religion has done must assume religion has no God! For it is religion which has filled the hearts of men with fear of God, where once man loved That Which Is in all its splendor.
It is religion which has ordered men to bow down before God, where once man rose up in joyful outreach.
It is religion which has burdened man with worries about God’s wrath, where once man sought God to lighten his burden!
It is religion which told man to be ashamed of his body and its most natural functions, where once man celebrated those functions as the greatest gifts of life!
It is religion which taught you that you must have an intermediary in order to reach God, where once you thought yourself to be reaching God by the simple living of your life in goodness and in truth.
And it is religion which commanded humans to adore God, where once humans adored God because it was impossible not to!
Everywhere religion has gone it has created disunity- which is the opposite of God.
Religion has separated man from God, man from man, man from woman-some religions actually telling man that he is above woman, even as it claims God is above man- thus setting the stage for the greatest travesties ever foisted upon half the human race.
I tell you this: God is not above man, and man is not above woman-that is not the “natural order of things”-but it is the way everyone who had power (namely, men) portrays it.
Oh - I've been reading those. Interesting - but a bit too prone to many New Age style pitfalls. And there was something slightly suspect about that Club of 1000 group he worked with...
starrynight52 - Wow, I've got nothing on you... I'm just a recovering presbyterian. Nowadays, I identify as a Humanist Atheist and an insignificant member of Humanity. I recognize you and offer my greetings!
Your one of the youtubers that historians will look back on and quote
Ikr
@@mattjames5407 No. No it's not hard to make sure it's correct at all. What kind of moron types something and then posts it immediately without reading it over again?
@@MaxArceus It's unfortunately more common than one might think.
@@mattjames5407 him and exurb1a
“Put Down, the fighter jet”
I think many people are getting confused, dark matter doesn’t want you to think religion is bad or limits you to just that specific set of belief. His videos are to show how you simply need to be a good person yourself rather than justify your actions based off your religion.
YES, I'm so sick of the constant "ReLigIoN BaD hErhErhErh". Be a better person, Don't let your morality be bound by Religion, saying this as a Religious person.
Dude, read his about page, darkmatter very much wants you to think religion is bad
You can be Christian and still believe the Israelites were barbarically wrong, IMO.
You just have to treat the Bible as something that was written by biased men who lied about God's will and got some parts of it right.
@@moonman239 Then how do you know what is God's will?
The only problem with atheist videos is that the TH-cam algorithm thinks videos about religion = religious person so now I keep getting ads of people trying to convert me to a Christian :/
Report the ads.
Hey, look at it this way, it means they're wasting their money on the wrong people. Silver linings.
Guess I can put off filling out my job application for another 15 minutes.
Go for C.R England if you have a license.... Its worth it.
Thank goodness I just wrote my resume yesterday and sent it out already. :)
get a job you bum
I actually really enjoy my job.
I hardly get round to any now. Lot of competition...
Alright, a new one. Love your art
undead Otter same!
One of the best channels out there regarding atheism.
Instead of tackling the issues head on, these videos try to show the absurdity of belief.
RandomGuy
Hang in there. God is not done with you yet...
The worth and dignity of a soul is measured by what it delights in!
The Gospel is the good news that sinners can delight in a Holy God. It's the good news that all of our deepest desires are satisfied in the ONE who sent His Son to bring us to Him.
God is so valuable and so satisfying that the most loving thing he could do for us is to make Himself gloriously indispensable.
Therefore, God's commitment to be glorified and our goal to be satisfied are not at odds but come to simultaneous consumation in the worship of His Son... who took upon Himself the Wrath that God had towards us in our sinful disregard of Him. A wrath that could never be appeased through man-made religion.
Jesus didn't die to turn the world into a paradise, he died so that we could stop seeking paradise in the world...
Temporal things such as beauty, popularity, money, sex, racial identity, gender reassignment... can never truly satisfy. BECAUSE WE WERE MADE FOR SO MUCH MORE!
We were made to gaze intently into the Eternal Beauty of a majestic King, Father, and God... meet Jesus the Christ.
Life is hard, God is good, Glory is coming
God Bless!
Blaaz101 aren't you the same guy that claimed to be a deist? So that means you believe in a god right? So tell me, what evidence do you have for this god?
jane Patton My man, you reply to my comment with all this bullshit about your "god" and yet you have no proof thereof.
You expect me to believe these things? If I gave you a similar story, but with the spaghetti monster as the "god", you wouldn't believe it, right? You wouldn't accept the spaghetti monster as your "god". If so, then give me one reason why I should accept your one instead. And try not to make that reason rely on an ancient book written by tribesmen. That wouldn't help your argument.
RandomGuy
"You expect me to believe these things?"
No I don't, because you can't believe... at least not right now. But if God has mercy on you, trust me... you will believe.
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith -and this is not from yourselves, IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD -not by works, so that no one can boast." - Ephesians 2:8-9
God Bless
No matter what happens to me, ever, I will not believe. Last year was the hardest period of my life. If something was going to make me believe, it would've been that year and its events. But it didn't. And I'm happy that it didn't, because it just proves to me that my mind isn't that fragile; I am not brainwashed.
And this, this only, is the reason people like you refuse to see evidence as a valid source of identifying correct hypothesis. No, let me correct myself; you refuse to accept evidence as a valid source of identifying correct hypothesis in the field of religion. More specifically, in the field of your own religion. Because when it comes to dismantling beliefs of other religions, you're going to use evidence, any evidence that you might be able to find. But, unfortunately, when it comes to your own beliefs, they are immune thereto. Immune to criticism, immune to doubt. Because "god" said so. Because "our holy book" said so.
"It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person". I'm not sure if you recognize this quote. I think it applies nicely to this current scenario, and every scenario similar to this, wherein a believer argues with a non-believer. Yet, there is something about it that I would change, for this case specifically. I would change the word "stupid" to "brainwashed". Because most believers in general are not stupid. Yet, when indulging in this argument, they act in the same way that a stupid person would. Because they firmly believe in something, but the smart ones can notice themselves the lack of evidence to support it. Yet they are so stuck on that specific set of beliefs, that they choose to ignore their usual method, the _scientific_ method, and instead opt for blind belief. Of course, were they to use the scientific method, they would easily infer that the argument for "god" has no basis.
This isn't exactly me replying to you. I'm not writing this comment for you, +jane Patton. I'm writing it for other people, who might be confused, and that might be reading this. I want to tell people where I've been led to after lots of thought, which may help them understand what they want to believe themselves. I doubt you'll have anything to say that'll be worthy of me replying, so I will most likely not do so again. Your previous reply, after all, was exactly what I had asked for it not to be.
This is powerful.
Remember God ordered the complete slaughter of the amalekites too
I know it's crazy. You illustrated it perfectly. Thanks for another great video.
Before I found this channel, I decided to read the Bible for myself and without a doubt, it was THIS very verse that planted the first seed of "wtf is going on here? This is a good and perfect God's command?" It was a long struggle... Started when I was 16 and it took about 5 years on and off. I'm 24 now and being sober the last 3 years has really opened my eyes to the power of the mind as it struggles to make sense of itself, society, and reality
Peter read the entire book
Will bits be able to be unread, since? Numbers chapter 15 seems contrary to so much later, or an argument for Gnosticism...
The Programmer of video games I did finish reading the whole thing anyway (ok I may have skipped the verses that literally described how to build the freaking holy desert shrines with specific cloths and whatnot). And actually, at the time, I was heavily anticipating what the apologist books I had bought at a conference would say to refute these.
But.. they either failed to mention relevant issues, brought up pseudoscience BS, or they didn't adequately defend the Bible's obvious flaws.
Better yet, newer books I bought conceeded older arguments and instead the authors withdrew to playing the "god is beyond human logic" game. So I read the Bible again. And... Well, let's just say that reading this book is the fastest way to commit aspostasy
The most terrifying and beautiful thing you've made
SuperGoldSmith maybe
Provocateur um wut?
Dr.Craig would say that the slaughter of innocent babies is actually a good thing because they are gonna be saved and be with God in eternity.
This is just an example of a person who sacrificed his own ethical intuitions to insane and irrational ideology.
I was brought up by a religious parent, forced to take bible classes and attend church weekly. But I always knew it was wrong. I believed it though and these story's terrified me! But I always knew deep down that it was morally wrong.
Whenever I questioned anything I was told that I have to take it on faith. That whatever happened had a long term goal of good 😑
No the Bible isn't wrong, you just never actually repented of your sins and believed in the Gospel of Jesus Christ alone for salvation from your fallenness and total depravity. This video is super weak.
Sad
@@Akihito007 u make 0 sense
@@Akihito007 you are absolutely right. How do you discover the absolute truth? What versión of the bible do you recommend, let me guess...KJV? You should go around telling people the truth. You obviously have the absolute right interpretation of scripture where thousands of others who disagree with you are wrong. Does God speak to you directly?
@@tambert3897 So you mean to tell everyone you either have no conscience and are a total sociopath or you DO have a conscience and are just being obtuse when it comes to actually reading comprehension relating to the Bible. Honestly every written form of communication involves a hermeneutic that is used to interpret anything. This just shows the intellectual DISHONESTY that "atheists" and God haters have when they can fully understand every other novel and piece of literature in their own and even other languages but suddenly when it's the Bible, all of a sudden they pretend it's written in some secret version of Martian that noone can understand. The willful ignorance and self deception is outstanding and pitiful at times :/.
Would’ve been funny if the Pastor was like “Welp, that was a weird dream!” And went right back to preaching.
Kleo3392 true
Funny... or accurate?
Yes.
Spine violently tingled.
Mind utterly blown.
Thank you DarkMatter2525
Woah Woah, "this is completely out of context." "God works in mysterious ways."
Lol
Dark Logic he’s Houdini
lmao
He doesn't what ever does doesn't require explanation
I was a worst kind of evangelical.
These videos helped me wake up!
Thx a lot, DarkMatter2525 !
Greetings from Germany!
How?
Considering how evangelical are in general I don't want to imagine... but nice you took the red pills.
Same
This is by far one of the best one-off videos you've come out with. The twists and turns, the story and lesson. I really hope a lot of people following my social media peep this and pay attention
Your most powerful, commanding and mentally demanding video yet! Beautiful yet disturbing, you get the tone spot-on. The message is well and truly delivered!
"Texas? It seems so primitive!"
I live in Texas.
I can confirm this is accurate today.
No, Texas looks normal to me. Desert where no plant can grow, dispersed communities filled with bands of marauders and asking pastors for help.
Klobi for President... huh? Have you ever been to Texas?
LOL. Yeah,i would have bought it as Texas.
glegely sounds like most people that have never been or only past through the pan handle lol
I lived in Texas for more than a decade. Your concise summary is spot on, with one exception.
The second religion of Texas is american football. Otherwise, this is very true.
Wow! That's some harsh shit, Dark Matter. Few people call out Yahweh so clearly or definitively. You have a great voice, my friend.
I don't know why, but your videos make me feel like we are on the brink of enlightenment. We are standing on the edge of a precipice, behind us are the younger generation, coaxing us away from the edge, and at the bottom is the older generation, thinking only for themselves, urging us to jump.
Don’t you mean the older generation is coaxing us away from the edge and the younger generation is thinking for themselves???
Kleo3392 no. The older generation is thinking only *about* themselves... sorry. And the younger generation is telling us not to jump in, not to follow their lead and to think for ourselves.
Oh okay.
mazingdaddid , you are a idiot for making such a unfounded claim about the older generation.
mark schiavone more millenials Consider themselves atheist or nonreligious than the previous generation. More millenials are perusing higher education than any previous generation. More millenials identify as progressive and liberal than the previous generation. How is this claim unfounded? The newer, younger generations are rejecting the claims of the older generations and perusing the knowledge for themselves. We stand for environmental protection, freedom from and of religion, freedom of speech, equality across all walks of life. Now yes, I will say that I am using a pejorative when I say "the older generations" because I know not all of the members feel the same way, but a majority of them do. It's not just religious, it's also political. As you pine for the good old days, we are trying to make the future a better place.
I would value freedom FROM religion
I became an atheist because of this channel and it changed my life!
I used to watch this channel for fun and became a believer after several years on it. Funny how we came to different conclusions.
@@maximilian8959 Actually, that's exactly what I did!
@@maximilian8959 It was for curiosity and fun
The OMG World !! Rofl, I thought the Samson video was awesome. I always like stories and was happy to get free content. I used to joke about people who had Faith whenever I was around them. I was, still am pretty evil. Getting baptised into the RCC next year at Easter. So I am sort of enjoying a few more months of Sin before I renounce the evil one. But TBH, I will probably regret it at the judgement.
+ArmageddonApologetics Are you a Poe?
is this happening after Jeffrey became god ?
I THINK so, but since the man in white made it plain he was only an extension of the preacher's ego, maybe not. It might be completely unrelated video. As much as I am enjoying the very serious offerings, I gotta admit, I miss the old Jeffrey (and God).
keepdancingmaria same
Wait what? Jeffrey is God now? When did that happen?
i think this is independent video
Vladutz19 watch the power corrupts series.
Just become a patreon after watching your videos for years. Truly changed my whole perspective. I wish I could give more but maybe when I get my raise. Hope to be your top supporter!
The word is "patron". Patreon is the web site, you are the patron.
When I tell theists that the bible is the greatest horror book ever written, they condemn me to the most horrific hell they can imagine for ever-and-ever for making such a statement…
Better than all those Christian movies they put out.
Zvonimir Tomac yep that’s like all of darkmatters videos
Better than one of those movies
Better than anything religious people have put out for the past centuries.
Dark Matter Vs, Jordan Peterson on Morality and Religion
Someone should send this to Jordan Peterson.
Jordan is... confused about religion. He denies the Bible, I think.
I think they would end up debating the nature of "truth" like Jordan Peterson did with Sam Harris. One thing I do like about Peterson is how he argues that for their time, these stories conferred an evolutionary advantage to the groups that followed their doctrine over the groups that did not and this is why religion persisted. I think this video is a good argument that it is time we used our brains to take the next step in evolution and dispense with the bible, it is outdated.
+Dennis Wormald and every other religion too.
Arguing with Jordan Peterson is only really possible if you have a dictionary with all the unique definitions he uses
This is a very powerful example, well done.
You sir are a genius you helped me, Thank You
"listen to my voice pastor, and hear your own." i love that line so much
Thank you for making me realise the truth. Transition from a theist to a free thinker really sets you free.
I only force Levitical Law on others when it suits my narrative.
...I bash gays while wearing polyester and eating shellfish.
...I get a tattoo of Leviticus 18:22 but not Leviticus 19:28.
TheReaverOfDarkness pick the cherries
"Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you."
Disobeying a direct commandment from God is a grave sin, and the punishments vary but are generally draconian.
But all that is Levitical law which was overridden by what Jesus said. Unless you can show me where Jesus says there is a grave penalty for sodomy?
I recently deconverted as a 18 year old fundamentalist christian and I've had many doubts about that, but videos like this show me that going back would be a mistake, thank darkmatter25 for all your hard work and dedication
I miss Jeffrey!!
same
Marius-Adrian Z LMAO
Isn't the white guy Jeffrey, like according to power corrupts
Jeffrey only appears in comedic videos
nathan mckenzie miss god as well , the useless bastard. Lol
I want to take this moment to say how amazing your buildings and scenery are. The scene with the church and rain was aesthetically pleasing.
A bit of a non-squitir but I always found the idea of time travel co-existing with a God kinda interesting. Like, if you travel back in time is God suddenly thinking "wtf, where did this new person come from?".
FortoFight Hmmmmm
😂
If time travel was actually possible I'm sure God would have actually tried to stop it.
I’ll be honest this video completely made me question my faith
Good
Religion was created to steal the land from the original people, and manipulate the masses in order to convince them to do particular actions and control them in compliation with other programs and tactics.
Been there, friend. Not because of this video specifically though, because of a lot of things I've come across. Dunno where I'm at now. Kind of a deistic agnostic, ya know? I don't quite trust any of the religions, but that doesn't mean I think it's all nonsense, either.
Wow on this one DarkMatter, I want to tell you, your videos helped me a lot after I deconverted from Christianity last year. I used to read those passages in the bible like Chapter 9 in the book of Ezekiel and be horrified, there's multitudes of them where children, babies and adults are all ordered killed by "God". I had preachers tell me, that whatever God does is justified and even heard nutty theories like the Nephilim for the justification of genocide. I also thought of the Egyptian Babies killed in the book of Exodus at God's command when the pastor in your video was outraged by the slaughter of babies.
My mom tried to convince me the midianites were half demon.
If they were half demon then that'll be awesome they'll have superpowers For me demons are actually an bunch of hated races and spirits
The medianites actually were demons, only in a metaphorical sense. The pagans in Canaan used to perform horrifying rituals; among other things, they'd sacrifice their own children at random.
If they existed today, I'd be all for their extermination.
We'd need more proof as well though, and whether they were protected from that at some earlier stage - free will and all that. Or do demons get more free will than future human generations?
"they'd sacrifice their own children at random"
so it's better to murder said children all at once? oh wait, only half of them... the other half has to become sex slaves.
yea well sorry, murdering and enslaving the victims isn't justified no matter how much you smear the alleged victimizers.
Yes, it is. You can't get rid of a bad culture like that by asking them nicely.
I'm not supporting taking their women alive (though not as sex slaves, still no).
I know some very nice Christians. Friendliest people in the neighborhood, would never throw a newborn infant's head to the pavement. But ask them about this story for example and all of a sudden they talk like they dash infants everyday
A Christian dating app ad just played before this video... A little ironic, I think
This channel is quite literally ammo against religious nutcases. Thank you DarkMatter
I appreciate your sentiment, but our goals seem to be different. My fight is against liars and the spread of (for lack of a better word) bullshit. In that, these videos help *a lot* . You'd be surprised at the amount of religious fence sitters out there waiting for that shimmer of truth. I used to be a Muslim until I found these videos. If they can do that for me, I'm pretty sure they can for others too.
Jesus Christ Don't bother,it's not healthy,repetitive debates and conflict can take its toll mentally especially such controversial ones
Worthwhile things are often difficult :P
Everytime someone replies to "Jesus Christ" it sounds like they are swearing, I love it.
"Jesus Christ your fight is against windmills" "God dammit your fight is against windmills"
"Jesus Christ Don't bother"
nitehawk86
One of the reasons I chose the name xD
Why would an infinitely powerful and good god create us so that we can simply worship him for all of eternity, or suffer for all of eternity if we fail to do what he commands us to do? "The punishment for sin is death." Disrespecting your Father is ultimately punished by death? How is this just, or even GOOD in any way? That's Authoritarian crap. If there is a finite amount of evil in the world but an infinitely good being with infinite power, the evil CANNOT exist because the infinite contrary overcomes that which is finite. Can somebody try to explain this to me? I'm going through a crisis regarding my faith, and I'm coming to realize that many of the answers to questions regarding my religious beliefs are excuses for "I don't know," or are flat out wrong. I feel like I'm going against everything I've been told when I accept that some of my questions CANNOT and WILL NOT be answered until I die, if that.
I'm confused.
I'll try to answer some at least to the best of my knowledge and understandings, please take with a grain of salt. God created man essentially to be his friend, hence the free will and in his image things. Death can be seen as a limiter to how much sin we can commit. The longer we live the more sin we commit. God is separate from his creation so his creation has its own qualities. What is freedom without choices? What are choices without consequences, without right or wrong? you could say the material world is the domain of darkness. One way i look at it when it doesn't make sense why all this would go on for so long is that if time is a creation of God then what is time even to him? Also, important not to look at the Bible as a scientific book or tool when it was never meant to be that. The study of faith and/or philosophy is separate from the scientific study of the material world. A lot of these sort of "Christian Science" ideas such as a young Earth, the Earth only being thousands of years old, really just shouldn't even exist. They are pulling scientific ideas out of a nonscientific object.
I dont think i know enough about the event or topic of the video to address that at the moment.
Research the orthodox church. A lot of the negative ideas people may have of Christianity may come from protestant teachings. Some may still be unchanged.
@@TheSamles
then he want a Relationship with us based on Fear and the Need of Forgiveness and the Need of Confirmation of Forgiveness?
@@TheSamles so basically the God you speak of is selfish and an inconsiderate fuck?
@@cossaizy6309 man,grow up please
Sounds as though you’re beginning to realise that logic and reason are alien concepts among the god squad. Good luck in casting off the shackles of senseless Christian doctrine
This is basically the same with ideologies like Fascism and Communism.
or Capitalism. In fact, except Marxism, where the state (politicians) doesn't exist anymore, the rest are oligarchies
Now And Never No Marx advocated violent revolution, and a dictatorship of the proletariat to transition, which would and did mean the deaths of countless innocent women, men and children for that ideology. You don’t get to skip to the end.
Or Corporatism, which isn't even Capitalism anymore.
Crown9, David Pakman did a show that briefly went through explaining a lot of these isms. The advocation of revolution was definitely in the explanation of Marxism. Thanks.
All forms of statism require violence and coercion to maintain. A mixed economy is not pure capitalism, it is corporatism, and so requires a state. Free association, voluntarily entered without coercion, without impediment is the only path that can be ethically justified within a consistent framework, and will naturally approach capitalistic tendencies.
When you speak to Christians about this , their response is either something a heinous justification or “I’m not gonna talk about Genesis”
Hey darkmatter2525, I just want to say thank you, thanks very much for changed me from closed minded conservative muslim into critical thinking, you change me from a muslim to agnostic and now im an Atheist. Im from conservative muslim country that hard to change and surrounding by indoctrination muslim everyday, I just want to say im so proud and glad and sometimes feel lucky too to found your channel. I feel myself so freedom and in the right path now. So soo free I feel im like wow im in independence. 😄 Now I forced myself to keep my atheism secretly here because well you know. People here will act like triggered barbaric cannibal if they see an atheist, not just that, in my country they got religous authorities aka religious police 😑 Now when I thinking back in past i realize how stupid im before when im an religious especially muslim.
Stay safe! You never know what people might do if you're too vocal
@@wtfhahahaha I've heard about a lot of women bring jailed or even killed for taking off their hijab even though it's supposed to be "a freeing choice"
@@wtfhahahaha oh yeah i heard about that on the patriot act
He has helped me too💜
U shouldn't post this comment from ur original account that might be life threatening
I feel like this video is so important for people to see. For those of you raised atheist, it must be mind boggling to think that so many people so fervently believe the stories of the Bible when there is so little evidence. And looking back, yeah, some of the stories are absolutely crazy, but, at the same time, I feel like part of me always knew that. Part of me, especially as I matured and learned to question new things, has always truly known better, that so much of the Bible is simply not logical, but another part of me wanted so desperately to believe it was true, to believe that this was the story of a loving God who was really out there and gave my life and those around me comfort and meaning, and thus that part of me worked desperately to make excuses to fool the other half, working, begging that I could still believe this good story to be true. But the story depicted in this video brings it all crashing down. The God of the Bible is not the all good, all loving being we’re told he is. That God is cruel, that God deliberately ordered some of the most despicable actions I have ever heard of, and that God is someone I should not want to spend an eternity with. Forcing myself to realize that also forces all those excuses and barriers to come crashing down. Why fool myself into believing in this terrible story? Why allow myself to continue the cycle of humans who have made life miserable for others in an effort to appease this being? Why allow myself to continue believing a lie when that lie has brought so much hurt to so many people?
Due to my extremely religious upbringing, I still feel uncomfortable calling myself an atheist. Maybe I’m still terrified that this terrible God might one day decide to enact his vengeance upon me. x) But at the same time, I feel extremely uncomfortable calling myself a Christian either. Maybe I’m an agnostic, or maybe I’m a Deist, someone who believes in some sort of God out there, but not someone who believes that this God can ever fully be known just by reading a likely fabricated old book, certainly not one as barbaric as the Bible. Regardless, in huge thanks to this video and the others on this channel presenting these damning issues in an incredibly professional and thought-provoking manner, I find myself no longer bound to my own lies, and no longer bound to this cruel, merciless God who wants me to inflict suffering on others. I’m free to chart my own course through life on my own accord, and I hope to make it worth it.
small percentage of people are raised atheists.
most of people you see here are deconverted christians, recalling what they believed in without scrutiny because they were raised with that belief.
so now they can enyoj the bible as fictional illogical comedy that it is.
i know what you mean.
you dont want to label yourself atheist because you still fear that voice in back of your head that you think is god testing you
thats just truth wanting to get free.
its not god testing you by inserting logical questioning in your mind.
i came to peace with my atheism after i realised that if god is real and all loving and all knowable, he wouldnt punish me because i questioned his existence and in the didnt believe he exist.
he would understand my reasoning which is sincere that there is no evidence for god existing.
but after many years of atheism. im sure in one thing for certain.
that none of religions in human history are inspired by god.
if god is real. its not god from any manmade religion from human history.
i conisder myself being atheist towards personal gods.
like jesus and allah.
but as you said, there might be something out there which we may label as god.
but its not some bearded humanoid who looks upon humans and takes notes on who is eating shellfish and having gay sex. so that he can punish them specificaly
so if i must label myself. i would say im pantheist at most
people usualy just imagine it either their personal religion they believe in is real, or no god exists whatsoever. they dont conisder every other practiced and not practiced religion out there.
I love bringing this chapter up to christians
Daniel Essex same
I did to my grandma
David hatcher How did she respond? If she is like my family, I can almost tell you. What did she say?
David hatcher I don't think I could do something like that XD, I think I'll just wait for her to pass away with her believing I am a Christian
Joel Alexander
She argued that they maybe took the girls and young women as daughters and not for sex/wives. And then argued that Moses did it but god didn't command it so that makes it okay god must be the most irresponsible person EVAR!
When I explained why these arguments fail she gave up and said I'm reading it wrong when I asked her to prove it by reading it herself and showing my intereptation is wrong, she refused and said that she read it long ago so she doesn't have to. I was pretty insistent but she didn't budge so I said that she was being childish, dishonest and cowardly she scoffed and denied this. I lost some respect for her that day, she's like a liar for jesus or one of those callers on the atheist experience.
smh
David hatcher take some advice from the sausage party movie, you won't get anybody to believe you by showing them evidence, you have to show them a better way. It's summarized but that's pretty much it.
I just want to say that your videos are often entertaining and thought-provoking I'm glad you're here to do this work