Explosive jail call between Lori Vallow Daybell and her sister Summer Shiflet
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Summer Shiflet took the stand in the Lori Vallow Daybell case on Tuesday, April 25. Shiflet and Daybell are sisters.
During her testimony, prosecutors played a 12-minute call made on June 24, 2020 while Lori was in the Madison County Jail.
Here is the recording.
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"You were dancing on the beach while your kids were in the ground???" is the single most concise, perfect, devastating way to describe this case. Utterly heartbreaking.
Her own children 😢 Sorry 😔
"Yeah months later... You think I don't need to get on with life, trying to be happy, trying to find some kind of happiness. You think I want to be alone?"
Wow, months later?
Right! As a sister I felt heartbroken for her sister! My pretty average family is a true blessing! I might disagree with my brother and sister's parenting sometimes, but this is a whole-nother level. Summer's visceral anger and emotion is exactly on-point.
《You threw them {the children} away like garbage.》This quote by Shiflet is the one that had the greatest emotional impact for me.
Agreed. While everyone's grieving and mourning, Lori was also busy having Zoom meeting with her dead kids in heaven.
Lori is pure evil. So heartless. All her responses in every call has been emotionless. She is a psychopath.
Is she on meds?? Because it can make them like that! Something is VERY wrong with her.
@@DiscernmentNowI think she's a fucked up POS all on her own
@@DiscernmentNow Apparently, she is currently medicated. But, she acted this way before. 🤷♀
@@DiscernmentNow I guess that wouldn’t match her church. No alcohol, no drugs,….
It seems like “psychopath” is too soft a word for Lori. Demonic-demon-infested-demon might be closer to to it.
Summer sounds like a terribly grieving mother while the real mom just shrugs her shoulders.
Makes sense. I can see how I would feel like my nephews were my own as well. Anyone that comes from one of my siblings is also my child, very much so. I’d also feel responsible for them.
We need some captioning I can't understand a word that lady says.
She's a Stranger !
A Fost-adopter.
This is what Real STRANGER Danger LOOK'S like.
Better educate yourselves ,because it will eventually affect you ,and your's.
I thought the person crying was the mother, no tears from the mom.
@@stutzbearcat5624 Hit the closed caption option.
_”We would’ve taken them in. We would’ve cared for them.”_ Absolutely heartbreaking.
Lori didn't want to let anyone else take the kids because then the money that they were getting from their dad dying, it would have gone to the ppl that were taking care of them! She's a greedy, evil, bìtch!!
Lori and chaddy boy needed the kid's money for their free, fun life in Hawaii.
@@celticfreckles2570 😭😭😭
She got rid of them, so she could cash in on Tylee’s social security cheques, and the money Charles left to JJ. It was about money. They got rid of Tammy for the life insurance.
@@musictomyears6920 these crimes went way beyond money and financial gain. This was the story of two people who were convinced the world was ending, and that they were going to lead the followers of Christ. They felt they had a bigger purpose in their delusion, and crimes were really centered around control, power, money, and sex. Tho two demented people also led others to believe in their delusions, and that there’s more players to this case. I wish it was only about money, but it’s so much more. 🫶
Summer is crushed. She defended her sister until the truth blindsided her. Her cries are the sound of betrayal. Smh
And Lori speaks like a psychopath.
And what will Winter, Fall, Autumn & Spring do?????
@@katmartin62 Haha, I was going to say: What will Winter, Spring and Autumn do? F A L L .
The devil set wright in church with whomever he can deviled..her sisters heart is BROKEN. Lorie has been a LIAR all her life..but her family always believed lories lies..
Summer is heartbroken , traumatized beyond repair , so terrified. This is unbelievable how Lori just talks robotically like she’s not human. Not even one sign of emotion . Pure madness. Poor Summer she loved those kids so much and she said I would have taken the kids in should Lori had said she didn’t want them. I really don’t know what to say, like how on earth are they going to find this woman innocent she’s not saying a word or showing any remorse.
May god give Summer and the rest of the family strength they truly need the Lords strength. She really loves Lori and is willing to give it all up for her sister.
The way Summer is crying sounds like a mother losing their child, yet their actual mother wanted it to happen. Pure evil
You think she sounds pure evil ????
@@katmartin62 lori
@@watchgoose ohh I qgree completely pure evil no remorse
@@katmartin62 yes
Wanted? She made it happen🤢 Lori sounds deranged. Good on Summer telling Lori about herself. The abundance of Pain that The Daybell couple delivered not only to the 3 they unalived, but their Family’s. I can’t even imagine.
“There is nothing that is Godly about hurting a child.” Well said.
🙏
Tell that to all the religious leaders and promoters of "God". LOL, I'm sure they'd disagree with you.
@@dustinbarton2337 Be nice!
"If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and who, when they have chastened him, will not heed them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his city. And they shall say to the elders of his city, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear". Deuteronomy 21:18-21
I am not religious at all - but I do read about different religions of the world and historical ones also - I prefer to think for myself - however, there is one saying that always has an emotional effect on me, and that is - Jesus said "suffer little children unto me".
How anyone can listen to their sister sobbing over the death of their children and not break down themselves is baffling.
Her own blood 😢
This
Casey Anthony all over again.
A killer has no moral obligation, to show or say sympathy
I'm in complete tears then and now. !!!!
The pain in poor Summer's voice is heartbreaking. Lori is foul. She is completely void of emotion. It's disgusting.
Lori is a monster. She says she was happy 'months after' as some kind of defence. Most mums would be destroyed forever if their kids were murdered. they could never smile again, let alone dance on a beach a couple of months later. She is DISGUSTING.
That poor woman - what a nightmare this situation and especially talking to a brick wall like Lori.
It's very strange Lori's family never noticed when she was growing up she had no natural emotion. That would be a big red flag I would think about a child.
@@ShadowBannedForever how do you know she didn't back then---she may have late onset mental illness
lori is discusting sorry excuse for a human being
Dead cold voice of a serial killer. Dead cold. Dead soul. Dead zombie, Lori.
My thoughts too. If anyone was possessed of evil, it was the ones who claimed others were.
Amen
True psychopath!
Yeah, she’s the freakin zombie!
Kids are calling them NCPs , non character player-no soul
Lori probably thinks, oh boy, Summer just became a zombie.
Yep! Summer just became a D3
A zombie in her mind is anyone who questions her sanity. That means all of us 🤷🏽♀️
I actually chuckled reading that, and I needed that after listening to such heartbreaking pain!
Her sister really gives it to her as only a sister could. The betrayal, hurt, pain and anger in Summer's voice, so filled with distress. She called her out on everything.
If the kids bodies were never found Lori would still be telling her relatives that she knows where they are and that they’re safe, remember that.
Exactly Nani
Thank God the grandparents and investigators never gave up.
Facts !!
Not true. There was a legal order for Lori yo be arrested if she did not show authorities her kids. Some of the relatives like JJ’s grandfather would have eventually hired a private investigator to find the kids. Lori’s lie of wanting to keep them self would have not worked forever because people know that in order to keep your kids safe the parent has to be present
You know what she wants you to know Summer.
*Lori:* "Nobody in the world knows what I've been through."
*Summer:* "Lori you were dancing on a beach smiling, getting wedding photos."
*Lori:* *"Yeah, months later!!"*
So, Lori just admitted she knew the kids were dead months before her wedding date of Nov. 5th. "Months later" is from September 5th. Tylee was murdered on Sept. 9th.
I commend your close listening.
@@DiorGenealogy Correct, and her sister Summer said that was ok that Alex was killed. That family has serious problems.
Yes I noticed that but Lori’s defence can still argue that she only found out when the children were killed through the discovery documents. It’s still the most terrifying thing ai e heard Lori say though.
@@charlesromney if he murdered two children, I think it’s okay if he’s dead. Even his own sister realizes that. Alex wasn’t going to bring anything positive to the world after what he did.
I caught that too!! WOW!
Her righteous anger is so powerful
This is what it’s like when a psychopath touches your life!!
It’s just so gut wrenching 💔💔
I’m a 54 year old man sitting here crying after listening to this. I have kids and I would die for them. It’s just unfathomable!😢
This IS a heartbreaking call.
That’s because you’re a REAL person!
yup i cried too. 47 year old man.
because you're a normal, intelligent person with feelings! How could anyone be not heartbroken about this case :(
Children 😮
I’m utterly disgusted that one woman can bring such intense grief and pain to so many and call herself a goddess and a spiritual leader. She is filth and pure evil.
Exactly!
Seriously!!! 👿
She's like the Hindu Goddess Kali.....the Goddess of Death and Destruction...
Vanessa...ditto.
She is satans daughter !
Her sister's rage is so strong. She will not let Lori gaslight her now. She loved those children more than Lori.
Gosh the sister is so authentic..makes such intelligent points...raw emotion ..justified anger..broken hearted... traumatised....and still speaking of love for her sister...so much strength and depth. What an extraordinary human being...
My heart breaks for her. She is the polar opposite of Lori. I wish with all my heart that Lori had given Tylee and JJ to her to raise.
@DocBree13 JJ should of went to his grandparents,tylee could of but not JJ
Absolutely.
Lori's lack of emotion is flooring. Lori trying to manipulate Summer in this call is horrific.
Gaslighting.
yes she is good at gaslighting. Dreadful, callous and cold.
one no emotion and the other wayyyyy too much.
@@irishrepub84 Too much? Two kids were murdered and cut up/burned FFS
@@irishrepub84 Summer is not showing too much emotion. She just found out that 2 of her family members who she has loved since they were born were murdered by 2 of her other family members who she has loved since the day they were born. It is horrific.
Lori has shown no emotion while everyone around her falls into despair. Very telling.
Forget about her. She is pure evil
Lori is a psychopath. Evil.
I hope the jurors are taking notice of that along with the evidence.
Because she’s a psychopath
Yup she's ridiculous
"How can you do that?!?!?" - "No body knows what I've been through."
"You blew me off for four months!!!" - "That's your opinion."
"Your children were buried in the ground and you were dancing on the beach!!!" - "You just don't know."
"I believe you knew your kids were dead and you left them." - "That's nice..."
The woman is pure evil.
this is a great way to show the narcissism. if u see it written, it cannot be doubted because lori uses vocal inflections as well to attempt manipulating, but if u see it written anyone with a heart would know what time it is.
Yeh, my mother hasn't murdered anybody but this is how our conversations go.
Me- you have been giving me the cold shoulder because I tried to discuss something important.
Her - the cold shoulder? That's merely your PERCEPTION
me - I can show you on my phone, texts unanswered, whatsapps unread!
Her -stop attacking me
Me- I'm not but these are the facts.
Her- oh THE FACTS, please stop attacking me.
My brother - you hurt mum.
Me - What, she hurt me!
Brother - do" the facts" matter?
Me - yes
Brother - sigh, just apologise to her.
Me. Arghghghghgh
@@SusanaXpeace2u Stay away and love them from afar while you spend your time surrounded by people who're actually happy that you're by their side. It's heartbreaking, as you get older, to realize how much time of this life you've been given and is only yours to live, has been wasted in the webs of someone else's manipulation, even if they're family.
Holy, righteous anger from her sister. Beautiful sound of anger on behalf of children.
I think what is shocking is the fact that Lori is not concerned for her sister’s pain. Anyone would feel for the person in pain. Lori is literally flat. Bravo Summer!
Total lack of empathy. If she was insane and a believer, she would have answered they are better dead, they were zombies and so on.
She barely emotes during this whole call!!! I don't know how someone wouldn't even flinch at someone else's emotional outburst. She's stone cold. Absolutely awful. Poor Summer.
do you honestly think that a person who can slaughter her two kids, tape & chop em up, bbq them and bury them in the back yard is gonna show some empathy for her sister's emotional pain on a phonecall? ? ?
She sounds drugged up
@@staciez to me not drugs on her but a sociopath. She reminds me of Chris Watts. Same type of person. The only difference is that she shows herself bubbly and Chris shows himself as the shy guy. Same evil and selfish people without empathy of feelings for any other than themselves.
The WORST thing she ever says is that "I looked after them their whole life" it shows that she felt justified in killing them and entitled.
Right?? They were still CHILDREN!!
Some of the testimony so far has elucidated Lori’s feelings (how I understood them was that she felt her children were burdens in one way or another). According to Annie Cushing’s timeline, also, Lori abandoned Tylee as well as JJ during the time she and Charles were heading into divorce/she ran off.
Because that's what you do with your kids! You take care of them their entire life!
No kidding. Their lives were tragically cut short. JJ was only 7!
@@mraereed Excatly Michell my daughters are 22 & 25 years old and I still to this day worry about them and do for them as much as I can. I'm constantly praying for them to make good choices. ❤
Finally a family member who has stood up to evil Lowrie
@ashleydavis5557 She was not the first in the family to take a stand. Summer and her mother defended Lori even when it was clear that she was threatening to kill her ex and when she was spiraling out of control. Their other brother repeatedly warned them about Lori and Alex and the mother and Summer decided to cut him off. So I'm so sorry that she finally had to accept the truth, but she didn't care when her brother and sister murdered her ex brother in law.
@deborahbaker1092 yes, part of her pain is that she was duped. Adam was the first to SEE
That poor sister is like speaking to a perfect stranger, no emotions whatsoever in return, no empathy, a true sociopath.
I’m proud of summer for saying exactly what was on her mind and standing up to Lori and not letting Lori push her around. Lori is full of 💩💩 saying things like you don’t know what happened and you weren’t there. Lori is full of it and I hope she spends the rest of her life in prison.
Oh it’s coming she is done I feel that the jury already knows she is guilty
Lori thinks that she's the real victim in all this. She had to be a mother, aww, poor Lori, she's so misunderstood. 😤
I hope she spends the rest of her life in hell.
The world was there and watched her laugh and smile without a care in the world !! Vile!
@@nenej12 , me too!!! I can’t wait for the verdict!
Summer sounds like what their mother should sound like.
But, didn’t you hear?? Lori said nobody knows what she’s been through. We weren’t there! How do we know she didn’t sound like that? /S (arcasm). Maybe she did cry for her kids once or twice, to manipulate Dumbell into coming up with more fairytales she loved being the star of.
This is the most heartbreaking thing I’ve ever heard in my life
The way Lori dances around her guilt and is so careful not incriminate herself is so obvious she knows what she did was evil. She is evil. My heart breaks for sister.
Lori is cold, calculating, ruthless, and unsympathetic while her sister is genuine, passionate, and broken-hearted. This is the deepest BETRAYAL of an unfathomable nature. Absolutely Heartbreaking!
I dunno, I think her betrayal of Tylee and JJ is the deepest. Then Colby. At least her sister has some life experience to kinda frame the world prior to reverberations from the Daybell echo chamber.
@stephb1221 Point well taken! I was thinking from a sibling point of view more, especially from a sisters point of view. Thanks for responding.
@@deebee2709 Absolutely! I feel like we’re all still hugging our way through the horror and shock of this whole thing still, years later. So glad it’s finally trial time, this poor family. 😓
🧊🧊🧊🧊🧊🧊 she's evil
This sinks her. “Months later” she admits they were dead when she was dancing on a beach.
This is the smoking gun! Prosecution is threading up the timeline nicely
Ugh...because she had to move on and be happy 😮
I heard that too. Wow. She slipped up.
Yep there's your smoking gun. Admitted that she knew they were dead 'months' before the wedding. Also, It's only 2 months later. Hardly can be called months. Any normal mother would be the counting days and hours without her children. 😢
Lori & Chad’s website/ podcast entitled 2 many kids-sick!
The desperation for understanding in Summer’s voice is so raw and real. Anyone attempting to get Lori to see logic or reason or feel guilt or take accountability would drive themselves to insanity. There is no hope for Lori. She is 50 shades of sick.
I recently got into reading true crime as a hobby, and the stuff going on with Ruby Franke made me aware of this case. Let me say, I am not a sensitive guy, I have been through a lot of shit in my life and and held it together. but this phone call, and the raw heartbreak in this woman's woman voice, brought tears to my eyes. No one should ever experience anything like this.
Lori is playing the victim over and over and her excuse is “nobody knows what I been through!” … most selfish evil we all have ever seen!!! Disgusting here! My heart goes out to that sister! Omg 😱
& she thinks she is winning in court lol her lawyers told her “we’re doing good”
Lori has narcissitic tendencies.
Pure frickin malignant narcissist and pathological liar.
Right no body care what Lori is going thought she deserves it all but not the kids or the others didn't 😢
Good for Summer! Lori deserves the worst.
the calmness in lori's voice and demeanor are horrific. it's pure evil and narcissistic. the way she shows no compassion for her sister or empathy or pain when summer is talking about the kids being thrown away like trash is mind blowing. gut wrenching.
She was very calculated so as not to implicate herself . In her mind , if she didn't physically kill her children, then she would get away with it . Sick bitchh .
No mercy whatsoever. But nobody knows what SHE'S been through! Whatever that is, Lori - you're alive and apparently doing ok. Your children however, were treated like trash. You allowed it all, that's obvious. Disgusting.
She's psychopathic
It really is mind blowing!
The amount of narcissistic supply Lori got from her sister kept her going for months!
The fact that Lori could stand listening to her sister in such pain for that is INSANE
Lori can’t even fake normal emotion, concern or love.
Heartbreaking. I’m so proud of Summer for calling her out “You were smiling on a beach in Hawaii when your kids were buried in Chad’s back yard”. She knew exact what she was doing and she is selfish beyond words. Poor Tyler, JJ, Charles, Tammy and Summer too.
"um, you expect me to be alone?" The narcissism is off the charts.
and the. Lori has the nerve to say “you don’t think I’m in pain?” Her narcissism knows no bounds
Yup considering how I remember on 20/20 she proudly defended her sister being totally in denial.
and she said "that was months later" She knew they were dead. it's a confession
Thank you ,Summer, for confronting your sister and speaking the truth. You were able to tell Lori what millions of us have have wanted to say to her.
That is spot on!
Yes! Summer really roared like a lion for all of us at Lori
Yes thank you Summer. I'm sorry for your families loss. Not only those innocent babies but the sister and brother you once knew. What Alex and Lori are now are not the ones you grew up with. Summer stand your ground for those precious angels whose lives were ended by a pure evil ignorant and ugly human(if you can call Lori human. I doubt she is).
@@lindacambria5413😊❤
The betrayal is unspeakable.
She is the darkness. I'm so sorry. The faith of the people around her is extrodinary. Give them comfort.
Lori’s demeanor is something I’ve only heard from serial killers that got caught. Lori is a wrecking ball. Her path of destruction reaches so many. She is so nonchalant and calm.
Hey there! I came across your comment and I just had to reach out and say hi. Your perspective really caught my attention and I would love to get to know you better. Would you be interested in chatting sometime? Looking forward to hearing back from you!
@@morrisonscott702 hi
@@MsTygame Nice to hear from you... how’re you doing?
@@morrisonscott702😂 here you are looking for a date😒
That poor woman is SO hopelessly crushed. Heartbreaking 😢
Heartbreaking. Lori is evil to the core.
Yes
Sad 🥺😭
😢
When I saw Summer and Lori’s mom on tv, I thought they were delusional. Right now, she’s completely authentic and appropriately devastated. Summer is so much more upset about the loss of those children, than Lori is, and it’s insane.
She's just mentally ill.
Yes, this is how it should sound when children are murdered, burned, bound and then put in the pet cemetery and/or property of their mother’s new husband. Yes, this is how distraught a mother should be - like Summer!
Not dancing on a beach after marrying your new husband.
The pain in her sister voice 😢breaks my heart
The absolute juxtaposition between Summer's being overcome w/ emotion vs. Lori's complete lack thereof says it all. Summer was the perfect kind of gullible, sheltered tool that narcissistic sociopaths like Lori toy with and manipulate like putty in their hands. Lori isn't insane, she's calculated and evil.
Remember that Lori only had a psychological breakdown when her best friend publicly stated that she no longer believed she was innocent. Not when the bodies of her children were found. When her bestie stopped buying into her lies.
🎯 my family is dealing with someone like this right now, she thinks she is 'smart', but she's got some SERIOUS SHIT coming her way. soon, very soon
Exactly right!
"You know me", Lori says, trying to defend herself. The same line she tried to use on Melanie Gibb, and probably the rest of her "useful idiot" friends. But Summer wouldn't stand for it.
Props to Summer!
She's reminds me of "Amazing Amy" in the Book/Movie Gone Girl.
OneMeanArtist
Nope not insane, as you said.
Just pure evil!
Summer is my hero. She said all the things that all of us were thinking and is probably the only one that may have any effect on this heartless, soulless woman. Thank you Summer for being those children's advocate and voice of reason in the face of this evil narcissist!
Right on Susana!!!
Lori's son Had alot of strong solid things to say...hope you get to listen to him.
She is the farthest thing from a
Hero. Every Cox is still in the deepest denial about their family, father and all their sickness.
@@cyntmacz Rather unfair of you to say that. It isn't Summer's or Adam's fault that two of their siblings turned out to be murderous, disgusting creatures. Adam tried his best to support Charles and Summer believed her sister. Everyone, including Kay and Lori stated that Lori was a good mother prior to meeting Chad. This is how Lori presented herself to the outside world and I don't blame Lori's family for not being able to imagine what she would do to her children. I would have defended my siblings too because I could never ever imagine them doing something as horrendous to their own children.
@@cyntmacz Did you listen to the call? She's snapped out if her denial.
The poor sister. I cannot imagine the nightmare of finding out someone you really loved is totally evil.
Well... i don't feel bad for her, because kilking innocent man just to make her sister happy somehow still is ok
@@susums1117 what are you saying dude?
@susums111 what are you referring to
@@mzsidehustlemedia Ah, no, I don't have any secret information, I'm just talking about that family's sick dynamics, how they all were covering for Lori till the day kids were found. No one cared about Charles death except Adam and his son and for that reason they were kicked out from family. When I 1st time listened that audio it really is heart breaking, but then I was thinking that they could prevent 4 people death, but they didn't because "Lori is happy", that make me angry. I can't imagine how horrifying were kids last moments.
Cain and Abe
Probably one of the hardest things I’ve ever listened to. 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Oh my god lori’s calm is bone chilling. Poor summer and family. Truly disgusting and devastating.
Lori is beyond help… her response to this is inhumane. It’s literally evil manifested.. no question.
Lori SOOOOO needs the death penalty!
Laurie is the devil himself
True
@@SledDog5678 while I completely agree, if she had gotten the death penalty she would get an automatic appeals and the conviction could possibly be overturned.
💯💯
This is the most heartwrenching phone call I've heard thus far. If Lori does not get convicted, that will be insane!
She's trying to toss the blame on chad and Alex, no doubt.
There's no physical evidence, on her no direct proof of her murdering anyone if she gets off, and Chad gets the blame I will literally loose my 💩 she has mental issues that's clear it's also clear to me that she has absolutely no feelings no resmorse no response towards anyone's feelings she's 10000 percent guilty ....but the evidence on her is lacking mostly put on chad and that part makes me physically sick .....she knew what she was doing !
It is insanencuz shes insane, cause the devil will find a way to let her go. But I doubt it. Lori to everybody. "u dont know, no one knows" well beeaaaccchh say what happened.
I agree...
Will the jury hear this?
OMG this is the clearest recording of this conversation. I am sobbing over here...poor Summer. My God. She said everything all of us have wanted someone to say to this awful woman. How painful. I don't know how she will ever get through this even with the guilty verdict today, she loved her sister so much. This is so awful. Blessings to this family!
She will get over it. God will give her of His peace. This is a peace that passes all understanding.
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The devil comes to kill , destroy , steal 😢
Finally! Someone in Lori's life that calls her out and had a normal reaction!
Colby also called her out.
Her brother Adam was concerned about her for get go.
He reached out to Chandler police when Charles was murdered.
I cant stand how she keeps on deflecting all she cares about is herself, what a friggin liar she is. Poor Summer, hard to hear her pain, there is nothing worse then murdering your children
She's truly an evil person, it makes me sick they ruled out the death penalty. She deserves pain like she caused those children and those that love them.
You should see Winter, Spring, Autumn & Fall......
@@katmartin62 grow up, Kitty, this is serious and you’re ‘trying’ to be funny? It is not working.
@@katmartin62 keep your 'jokes' to yourself. This is not a joking matter.smh
Thou shalt not kill evil shrew Laurie. There is photos of there dead bodies she murdered and Charles to
To think Lori was stealing Tylee and JJ’s social security income for months after they were murdered is beyond comprehension 🤬
Uh I think murdering your children is beyond comprehension but hm ok lmao
@@b2tts41 both are beyond comprehension.
@@Ad-Lo lol not equally tho
That’s why they ran kept saying we know where they are of course she did .. getting their checks murdered her children . Brother , husband , attempted Brandon’s life , No Lori you allowed Chad to control you ! Murdered Tammy as well ! Chads family stupid enough to think Chad is innocent how insane !
Pure Evil 😈
My God. No words exist to describe this level of pure evil.
This is GUT Wrenching!!! Imagine, no remorse, no guilt, no feelings about your deceased children. A sociopath. Her poor sister. Poor girl is pouring her heart out. How do you come to terms with something like this?
Lori has no remorse at all. How sickening!
She doesn't even pretend. She's a shell of a human. The wake of horror she has left behind is the stuff horror movies are made of.
True that she smiled while her children laid buried in her new husband's pig sty! What evil pigs the two of them are!
What they did to these kids😡😡😡😡😡
She's a bona-fide sociopath.
She needs to rot in hell
I love that the jury is hearing these calls. The fact she’s so calm. When she’s asked if she knew the kids were in chad’s backyard and says she can’t talk about that. If I were a juror with all these exhibits I’d say GUILTY within 2 minutes of hitting that jury room.
Yes and Lori told Summer that she was smiling on the beach because "it's because it had been months." So she just admitted that she knew. I'm sure that there was more times that she admitted it but that part was pretty damning.
@@katefulmer8595 Yes, agreed. A mom doesn't get over the grief of losing a child in "months". Years later, it's still like a knife cutting through a mother's heart. Months. sheesh. She's so full of it.
@@katefulmer8595 yes but it had only been a little over a month since JJ was murdered and less than 2 weeks since Tammy was murdered!!!
100%. She has basically admitted guilt in this phone call.
My mum and dad lost their first child when she passed away at almost a year old. my mum has never recovered from the loss and my dad is always on the brink of tears because it's hurt them so much and that happened almost 60 years ago. The grief has never left them and never will. Lori and chad have dead hearts because to have the kids and tammy charles killed and not showing any kind of emotion is unbelievable to me. Having a pool party after charles was shot was bad enough but to see them on the beach after the kids and tammy were murdered makes me feel sick
Boy she's letting her have it!!! Good for summer!!! This is so sad. Praying for the children,🙏🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️
The pain, raw emotion, heartbreak and rage is soul-crushing to hear. And the fact that she said she is glad her own brother is dead, if he had anything to do with it just shows how much she loved her niece and nephew. I feel awful for her and her family 😭
Ever notice how the more upset the normal person gets the more calm the psychopath gets? It's almost like the narcissistic psychopath absorbs the grief and energy of the grieving person and turns that energy into a sort of self serving tonic. You could almost hear Lori smirking in her quiet, calm responses. This call, more than anything else has shown what a sick human being the defendant is. I don't think remorse is even possible for her.
Sociopath narcissist are incapable of any real emotions
You're absolutely correct! My ex husband has APD and NPD and he literally would smirk and get off on causing pain. Narcopaths can only feel excitement and anger but they can't feel any type of emotion. They can only study and copy other people's behaviors in order to appear normal to people outside of their personal life.
Psychopaths and especially narcissists thrive on other peoples hurt. That's why some kill. And power of course. very dangerous people.
Very good points, Lori doesn’t deserve her sister AT ALL
Well said. I never thought about that before, its definitely true.
Lori defends herself with the same idiotic sentences she said to Colby "no one knows what happened", "you weren't there" "I raised them I loved them more than anything" and it's extremely embarrassing for her. Listening to Summer, you can physically feel her pain. And I'm extremely glad that someone had the courage to say in her face things we all thought and would have said to Lori the way Summer did.
Just words with no real feelings.
Colby rightfully flipped out on her too
She always says “You know me” you know me Mel you know me summer she’s a sociopath narcissist. She was trying to move on admitting she knew basically the kids were gone. This is a death penalty case.
It seems to me that Lori had more difficulty pulling that crap on Summer than she did with Colby. With her son, it was like her words had to be accepted as absolute truth!! Summer wasn’t about to let Lori get away with that.
@@BethStoss-zt4dm Yes, it absolutely should be. Maybe they’ll get her in Arizona.
How does Lori not cry hearing this? I am. Disgusting
My heart literally aches for Summer. But it absolutely shatters for those innocent angels, Tylee and JJ.
I have so much more respect for Summer after hearing this absolutely heartbreaking call. The sadness and anger that she felt, especially about the kids being discarded like trash, truly shows the love that Lori’s family had for those children and the love that their mother should’ve had for them too.
I don't know if Summer found out that Lori behind their sister's death in 1998
@@aparnarajeshmygoodness! How? 😮
@@DiscernmentNow Stacy Cox died in 1998 under mysterious circumstances
@@aparnarajesh unreal!
According to custody documents filed by Stacey’s ex husband, she did not take care of herself, or her diabetes. I don’t think her death is that mysterious, my friend’s sister died young for the same reasons, if I’m remembering right. Diabetes can absolutely be fatal if not properly treated and cared for. And according the documents, Stacey was afraid of food and germs, and her daughter was starting to mimic her behaviors, which is why her ex sought custody. I really don’t think Lori was behind her death, is sounded like she did that to herself.
Her sisters heart is literally breaking, but Lori stays cool and collected. No response.
I think both Lori's son and sister tried to obtain a confession from her.
What a sociopath
@@Sai-po1fw and the fact that Lori is so guarded, cool and collected shows that she is a sociopath, a calculating killer
@@miam1074 totally agree. Just wrote q comment, she reminds me of Chris Watts. Only difference? She acts bubbly and he seemed to be the shy guy. All masks hidding their selfish being and their total lqck of empqthy and love to anyone but themselves.
But remember summer sent a message and photo to Lori saying her boyfriend wouldn't have missed referring to the attempted murder of Brandon because Alex missed when he shot at Brandon.
She lost her brother, sister, nephew, niece, and brother in law in just a few months time. I can't even imagine. Her entire life destroyed and all over the news.
Her sister is what us normal people sound like when hearing these things, Lori sounds like a serial killer!
This is almost unbearable to listen to. Lori has a heart of stone. It is unfathomable.
Heart of stone truly
Poor Charles…he tried to warn everyone…this case is beyond awful
He tried to warn everyone and her and her mom both made him out to be a bad guy in that interview.
I know. That’s probably the worst part. He knew. He saw that she was dangerous, but no one took him serious.
The LE must be held accountable for Charles. They have his death and all the following deaths on their hands.
Charles' Mormon bishop and law enforcement we're all contacted (for support… What a huge FAIL on their part) by Charles way before Alex murdered him. They should all be held accountable
@@ajensen366 You are so right! From the very VERY, begining before the discovery of murdered children,just hearing that demonic occultism crap of these two Jesus posers,I began shouting from the roof tops and just like Charles there was silence!
Why weren't these two charlatans getting called out by those all around them?Lori's blaring contradictions to everything biblical and in your face opposite statements of all Jesus Christ has ever said in the scriptures!
I am no Bible scholar but even a child with basic Sunday School verses could see they were evil Liars serving the enemy!
I called Lori and Chad out for each public claim they made! The stuff they were publically saying were straight up abominations unto The Lord! Why were all the people around them not standing up and saying to their face" Hey you are of the enemy!" They were allowed in their families and in public meetings even to speak and say whatever against everything and anything Christ like?
No one said chit!
First of all Lori said she knew when the world would end.Ok,JESUS says "of that day or hour NO ONE knows only MY Father in Heaven, not even all the angels in heaven knows that day!
So anyone who reads the Bible should've kicked that witch to the curb,not been entertaining her or having podcasts with her! Or allowing her to have meetings up at their temple. WTH is wrong with all those around these two back then?
Second Chad told his wife Tammy "Your dead aunt appears to me and gives me instructions....uh NO!NO,NO,NO! Bible clearly instructs that necromancer ( person communicating with the dead) is an abomination unto God! No child of God is to participate in fortune telling ,anything occultism or necromancer ( which really is just demons who mimic our dead loved ones and deception over all)
SO no one at that church ,temple or family or any groups they made these sort of statements knew what God says? Nobody read those parts of God's Word? The ones who didn't call them out are responsible! If they are all ignorant then fine! They need to quit attending meetings and get with God by themselves because if not they are all screwed following that crap Chad and Lori were professing!
So in conclusion I have been screaming to all who will listen,since this first was a tiny story and began,I don't care which man made religion you follow,the truth is and was from the get go:that Lori and Chad both are Jesus posers who make me sick,they are just Liars pretending or following demons,but they are 100% totally straight up against all that is Jesus Christ,and WTH is wrong with everyone up at that morman temple( hey I've got good friends who are mornan) but seriously WTH is wrong with everyone all around these two? Was there nobody no where who had ever cracked open a Bible? Did no one know Jesus not even one tiny bit? Allowing them to throw shade on My Lord!
They were all calling Him The Savior! And everytime I heard Melanie or any of those evil posers call Him that ,I'm sorry but I had the urge to slap their mouths everytime in interviews when they said 'the Savior"so prettily ,so uppity, so pious!
I probably will be sorry and need to repent but it's the truth! I wanted to slap that girls mouth How! How can anyone who loves Jesus allow them to pretend they know anything of Him when they are spouting wicked lies making things up like they know Him!??
From the very begining I was SO PISSED! Such big fat Liars making mumbo jumbo up that was fully against The Most High Creator of all heaven and earth! Yet no one said chit! Silence! While these two profess and carry out the plans of the enemy to steal kill and destroy! They will be held accountable for every word ever spoken! I've researched ALOT of NDE's! We all will be held accountable for sure!
She is cold because she is consciously sucking the energy of despair just like a typical demon.
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Wow, just hearing Summer yell at Lori made me sob. 💔 She's so incredibly right!! Nothing Lori has claimed makes sense.
This is so gut-wrenching to listen to. I felt like I was confronting my own mentally ill, abusive sister. The pain in Summers' voice is so raw, so deep, and pain-filled. To have her pain met with indifference, with cold, flippant, indifference. Devastating.
And yet she showed more care and compassion here to her sister than she did to her own son in that call.
Such harsh truth thrown right at Lori and she has no real emotion about any of it. It's so sad. You can tell the family loved those children.
Yeah. I have one of those sisters too so sad😢
@@tatianalonghurst5916I'm so sorry. That must be extremely horrible. 😢
Flippant is right.
This phone call was everything she needed to hear. I’m proud of her.
This is an amazing conversation.
1000%I'm glad someone told her! I feel this frustrated listening to all her bs and trail
Yes, but sadly it had no effect on Lori. She's incapable of feeling appropriate feelings. She is fantastically frightening.
This is what a real Mom sounds like when they lose a child. Summer's entire soul, heart & world was crushed the duration of that call. She had to have thought she was going to lose her mind over her sister. Summer is such a strong, beautiful & amazing human! Blessing for her entire family
Yes it's so heart breaking to listen to them both. She basically has lost her sister to this cult
how lori was able to go thru life being this sociopathic is truly terrifying
Our world caters to and rewards sociopaths/psychopaths unfortunately
Her sister hit all the high notes. I’m so glad Lori heard this at least once. 😢 sad for the family
She was even less with Colby
And I am SO happy that her sister took the opportunity to say everything on her mind. It would be much harder for her in the future if she hadn't.
Me too 💔😥🤲🙏🌎
I feel so sorry for the Jurors for having to sit through this day after day. They will need counselling. The amount of pain this woman has caused to so many people is horrifying.
Hopefully they will do the right thing 🤞
No doubt they will.
So. Many. People. 😢 gut wrenching phone call
I'm trying to stay away from all of this for my own mental health. This is one of like 3 videos I've watched on this case since the beginning. I was literally thinking I was so grateful to not have to be a juror for this case. I fully believe they'll need therapy after this is over. It's absolutely heartbreaking.
No they won't. They got closure today by finding her 110% GUILTY.
Just so horrible to hear her grown sister bawl like a baby. Crazy how one person can destroy so many lives and hurt so many people! Unbelievable situation and cold- hearted serpent. Lord have mercy😢
When Lori said..."yeah, months later"...a chilling Freudian Slip
Good catch
You are hearing what a sociopathic person sounds like. Lori has no feelings at all, while her sister's voice is heart wrenching to listen to.
So very true. Listening to how Lori responds to her sister's real, raw emotions is absolutely BONE CHILLING.
I owe Summer a huge apology. I judged her harshly after her interview she did defending Lori. This call just broke my heart... the emotion, pain and grief shook me. Lori continues to try to manipulate Summer with her bs in this call... its just heart wrenching. Lori is a monster and has destroyed soooo many people. Its just devastating.
I judged her previously too. I feel bad for doing so.
Agreed
Me too! I was so harsh! Lori is a master manipulator!
Me too
More pain than you will ever see out of Lori.
As an auntie to my identical twin sisters daughter, i cannot imagine the pain this family is going through. So heartbreaking.
This conversationg is so intense, i can hear summer trying to give herself some closure. When she started screaming i got the chills, she really believed these kids were okay. She was betrayed. I believe shes come to the realization that her sister she once knew is not what she thought at all. Shes realizing her sister is a murderer with no empathy for others ….and you can hear that in loris responses to her heartbroken sister …..this is hard to hear …
If the likes of you and me find this whole horror story difficult to comprehend, just imagine how hard it must be for Summer to understand, how her sister, someone she grew up with, someone she loves, someone she believes in and trusts, only to find out that she and her husband had committed such a terrible and heinous crime against her own children, children that were unable to defend themselves 😢
If we find it hard to comprehend it must be extremely difficult for family members to understand and process 😢
i have an older sister...i couldnt imagine her doing this and the pain i would have to see this
It's almost unbelievable. I really can't imagine...
I'll never think our family has problems again!!
This is something out of a Steven King book, not really life.
I am totally gob smacked😢
I can't even fathom it.
Lori has to be a psychopath. There’s no other explanation to explain her complete lack of emotion. It’s so chilling. Her sister’s pain is such a stark contrast to her apathy.
Sociopath perhaps
full on PSYCHOPATH!! Her cousin, Megan, told about her killing her cat in her interview with Lauren. I knew when I heard she killed the cat she was a psychopath as a young teen...I wonder how many people she has killed or been responsible for their deaths...this is so shocking, disgusting.
That is the most heartbreaking thing I’ve ever listened to! I hope the good people in Loris family who have been so hurt by all this can find peace and get through it!
Oh my lord. I really feel for the sister here. I have been following this case from New Zealand and I was overwhelmed with emotion after learning what happened to the children as well. My heart goes out to Lori's family.
My heart breaks for Summer, my god, but I am also endlessly proud of her for how she handled this narcissistic monster. She roared for all of us like a lion.
When she finally screams at her in pure rage it's damn near therapeutic for all of us! "We still wouldn't even know what happened to them because you cut us off. AND NOW YOU EXPECT ME TO BE THERE FOR YOU!? Cut that part of your heart out & burn it, Summer. This Bisch never deserved your love 💔
Beautifully put Grace. As a simple Christian man, this is exactly the type of example that demonstrates how easy a perfect storm can start to brew when ones motivation to stop it from manifesting is no longer a priority. This story is a cautionary tale in which the concoction of an individuals desire for a break or separation from what has been their everyday life & identity mixed w/ absurd levels of manipulation oozing out from every crack it can find & being applied by just about every party involved whether they want to admit it or not. And finally, the application of those dangerous elements at play, ultimately setting a completely new & delusional foundation that on its own is frightening enough considering all things w/in reality increasingly became further & further out of reach. But the moment they all started to insert their religious element into the equation, the recipe for a horrific ending almost seemed all but inevitable. Especially when you had a collective group of ppl all willing to push so much of their regular lives aside in order to essentially participate in a fictional game like obsession that revolved around their already highly religious lives. This was demonstrated in such a way for which their entire basis for spending time together was to practically re-introduce the text & literature of their religious beliefs, but in such a reckless manner for which they created a podcast & often appeared to be searching for ways to recreate the interpretations of its scripture. And as their grasp w/ reality continued to fade away, that gave the opening needed for Chad Daybell to fulfill their needs w/ his own warped & twisted version of the LDS faith that seem to be based more on some modern day video game(s) that kids play, involving zombie like characters & the ability for ur own family to immediately become possessed to the point that the only thing their loved ones can do is murder them for the sake of their child & the safety of everyone around them. Never once ever coming to the realization, that after a handful of murders suddenly seemed to surround them that they themselves in fact were the only demonically possessed forces that surrounded them & their families lives. Instead, they only felt their powers were growing as they continued to systematically eliminate everyone in their current lives that seemed to ironically inconvenience their newly desired path in life.
Such a sad sad story.
@J L If I may play at things I only know the bare minimum about, I have my suspicions that for the women, coming from a religion in which a submissive demeanor is praised and questions are not encouraged, to have a man of high status not only elevate their importance I a general way but to give them varying positions of "power" in relation to him and also to past relationships with God, himself was intoxicating. To be given high value and respect while pushing the idea that this makes you closer to God, instead of being against his plan for you had to have felt like freedom in a way. Just what I see...
But, she couldn't get through to her. Sad and tragic.
@@U2L8 As intelligent and charming as she appears to be, something or somebody infiltrated her thinking. I don't believe the doctrine of the Lord allows random killing, especially your own offspring. War is bad enough and horrific!
Absolute EVIL. The way she just calmly responds to her sister and claims that she is not responsible is just sickening. When she justifies her wedding as happening "months later" to justify her indifference is just mind blowing! It's just impossible to comprehend what is wrong with her. EVIL!
Exactly my niece was murdered 9 yrs ago, my sister in law is still grieving to this day, her daughter & only child ripped from her life, she will NEVER EVER be the same, part of her heart died with her daughter. 🥺💔
@@theresacoy9881 🙏🙏❤️
Yes! And its her affirming that she knew the children were dead when she married chad
@@theresacoy9881 I'm sorry for your loss ❤ my best friend and his girlfriend were murdered on 10/11/16 and his mom has never gotten over it. She's completely broken and I don't think she'll ever get over it 😔
@@CaseyMarie11-11oh my God. That is horrible. Both of them?? No,, parents do not ever really “ heal”. GREIF just becomes a part of you, like a big scar. I’m so sorry. 😢
I feel so bad for the sister … Lori won’t even say sorry or admit to what she did. Her poor sister is inconsolable and she’s too concerned with not saying anything incriminating.
This is extremely saddening to hear the destruction of a family
“we loved them, we would have taken them” is the most heartbreaking part of this call
I think anybody that loved them would have taken them. RIP sweet 😇😇 JJ and kylee
Tylee
Unbelievable how calm and non emotional Lori is. Unfathomable! Summer let her have it! Heart wrenching
She's lost her soul.
@@JennyLouLou she has NONE
No way will Lori ever say anything that might suggest she was involved, hence her absolute refusal to talk about it
I was so glad to hear Summer saying the things she did. Made me want to cry!
Praise the Lord for her sister. I can’t say how rewarding it is to hear someone scream at her. I know there are plenty of people who would love to have the pleasure, me included. It’s the very, very least she deserves. Amen Summer, thank you for saying what we can’t.
I feel so sorry for Summer.
To find out that someone you loved did something so unthinkable…good god. The pain and terror in her voice is just heartbreaking to hear.
She’s gonna have to receive grief/trauma counseling for the rest of her life.