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- Former Chicago Bull Toni Kukoč was asked about what it would be like if his former teammate Michael Jordan got to play with Shaquille O’Neal, and he was pretty blunt in his response: 'best lineup ever assembled.' Kukoč continued to tell Bally Sports quote 'It wouldn’t even matter who brings the ball up. There’s so much firepower there that I don’t think that there would be any team that would compete with them.' Hear whether Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe agree with Kukoč and believe that a MJ-Shaq combo is the best line-up ever.
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Shannon love for lebron is is ridiculous. Michael Jordan was older and accomplished. Shaq would of fit in with the bulls perfectly. Phil Jackson had a system that worked, shaq would have loved to be the under study of Michael jordan.
This is the best 5 player lineup ever
Pg Meadowlark Lemon most underrated player ever because he was being funny.
Sg Pete Maravich
Sf Bill Russell he's a defender with the speed and size that guard anyone.
Pf Kareem Abdul Jabbar
C Wilt Chamberlain.
If only picking two players it's Meadowlark Lemon and Wilt Chamberlain.
@@dustincobb5718 it's tough to put meadowlark, maravich and Russell in the top five when they didn't dominate there position in that era. Player in the top five should be transcendent. Maraschino had a few good but could of accomplished more, I don't even think he has a ring. Russell was a great team player and accomplished alot but benefited more from the team he was on not his skills. Meadowlark never played in the nba. So he may be a great player but who will ever know. I agree with the other two.
@@sadatscorpios Who's beating that team as a whole your argument against bill Russell makes no sense unless you accept pistol Pete was on the worst teams. What if he'd always been a knick or a laker/Celtic. Mj didn't win without a team and neither did Pete. Teams matter. By the time Pete was a Celtic hed been hurt.
@@sadatscorpios I'd put Pete against mj any day people said he had no defense yet Pete would score 25 or 45 and his opponents alot of times had 12 or 15 points. Pete proved he could dominate on the second worst team in his 68 point game against Walt Frazier Earl Monroe and Bob McAdoo etc.
Skip: "MJ had little to no respect for Pippen"
MJ: "When people say my name they should also say Pippen"
He's arrogant and bias to only anything Lebron. I can't stand watching Shannon anymore. Always yelling etc. That's just me tho
I should have mentioned i agree with you. I remember Jordan saying that exact quote. Just because Jordan didn't go on banana boat trips and wanna be friends with all the all stars he can betrayed as selfish or something that Shannon is probably referring to. I didn't watch
Right lol
@@AJ11OH-IO the funny thing is Skip said Jordan had no respect for Scottie and Shannon refuted it… you sound like the biased one lol. I think you got skip and Shannon confused with each other or something 😂
@@Justin-gg6hw I did 😆!! I can't believe skip would say that. I didn't watch the segment and maybe he said it another time idk but i figured Shannon would say it so yea i acted bias. Im just sick of the Lebron talk every day. I painted Lebrons Tour bus and im a fan but that got the better of me for sure.
Hakeem does not get the respect he deserves. He and Jordan could have 8 straight if they played together.
It would've been unfair. Both were the most skilled at their position alltime, offensively and defensively 😬
@@pablinkz That is true. What I don't like though is they mention Duncan, Shaq, Robinson, Wilt - but they don't mention the dream.
Would've been a brutal combo. Do people remember Olajuwon is by far the NBA blocks leader... and 2x DPOY. MJ 1x DPOY. Just a brutal combo on both ends of the floor.
Because he’s foreign
@@ntnnot yes that would be OP I believe they would be bullies in the league every game
I like how Skip and Shannon respect each other, although their opinions are most often different. SAS respects no one.
Sas is a literal clown, glad other people see it too
Why y’all bringing him up on a show that has nothing to do with him?
@@CuatroCinc0 because both these shows are aired in the morning around the same time & one is clearly better than the other
@@CuatroCinc0 well skip and sas were partners for quiet some time, maybe its just me but whenever i hear sas i think about what skip would say and the other way around...
im just bringing up one thing when talking about sas...the video of him tryin to hit the pads, never lost more respect for a person in a shorter time...
SAS is a legend and a scholar y’all some 🤡s
If you pair a 22 year old Shaquille with a 28 year old Michael Jordan in today’s NBA
That dynamic duo is unstoppable
"in today’s NBA"
What, a three-point league? Shaq didn't score outside of the paint, and Jordan was a poor shooter from beyond the arc.
@@andrewjenkinson8948 lol troll
@@c1v1lizedsavage47 He is right do
@Dusko Pejakovic no he not it's still 3 other positions that have to be filled they could easily add a 3 point Sharpe shooter
@@andrewjenkinson8948 bro not Everyteam shoots volume threes... On defense shaq is still going to guard the center or grab the rebound of the miss
The 2001 Lakers went 15-1 in the playoffs with a prime Shaq and a 21 year old Kobe.
Replace that Kobe with a prime MJ and they’re getting banned from the league.
They gotta get nurfed lol
Was 2001 not the year of the infamous LA - SAC series? Put an asterisk by that 15 - 1.
@@meg-k-waldren honestly ppl let it slide too much
@@meg-k-waldren no, that was 2002 WCF, game 6. In 2001, they swept Portland, Sacramento and San Antonio. The only game they lost was to the 76ers in game 1 of the finals
@@ysl1717 check your history because your wrong and in 2002 what happened in game 7?
Jenny: So Shannon, James Bond or Jason Bourne, who's the better spy?
Shannon: oh this is easy. Lebron James.
😂🤣
🤣🤣🤣
Skip: Thomas Edward Brady...he was part of spygate after all
😂😂😂
@@gary-gt-tsang Nice one bro, you're quick on your feet.
Shannon doesn't remember MJ and Shaq playing in the all-star games together. MJ always passed..lob alley oops to Shaq. Shaq would kick it back out when doubled and MJ would get the bucket. And that was just an all-star game.
Yeahhh...you seem to be one of the few people who remember. I was thinking the same thing...like in 1993 or specifically, 1996.
All star is one game the season is 82….
Are we really comparing a all star game to a full season?!?!? 😳😂
@@liamdunphy7496 what I'm saying is they made it look easy just messing around. Imagine if they were serious. You guys must not know the x's and o's. Since I played D2 I'll explain it to you. Jordan was an all around scorer..if he chose to drive the lane Shaq would be there to make the pass to if the lane was clogged. Which it wouldn't be because Shaq would clear out and move back to the basket only if needed. Second..those games they played together was with the young Shaq..the leaner Shaq the used to run the floor and COULD run the floor quickly. Shaq and MJ out on the break..it would be a pick your poison. No one could stop Shaq we he decided..all that would do is leave MJ open for easy buckets. Not to mention if Shaq decided to back down his man you would see mi cutting to the basket and getting shots at will. You guys are crazy lol.
Here is a fun fact so in 1984 the Portland trailblazers Was going to trade Clyde Drexler and their #2(which became Sam Bowie) to Houston for Ralph Simpson because they needed a big man. MJ and Hakeem and Drexler almost played together their entire careers. That’s 6-8 rings from 1985-1998
Imagine how serious shaq would have taken the game if he came up under MJ
Word...it wouldn't be easy but I believe Shaq would let him lead him
the thing Shannon not taking into consideration is the fact that Shaq already had respect for MJ as the GOAT so his ego wouldn't be as inflated with dealing with him as he was with Kobe
I said something similar.. Great point!!
He's also forgetting Shaq was a proven star before he went to the Lakers and Kobe was just coming in the league.. Jordan had already been established as the top player in the nba when shaq got drafted, I think Shaq would've loved to play with Mj coming out of college knowing that fact
what you're not saying is the fear that Shaq encountered when Kobe was getting better and better. it's no coincidence that Shaq really started having problems with Kobe when Lakers fans started yelling mvp! during Kobe's free throws versus when they used to yell that for Shaq. people don't wanna tell the truth. Shaq was jealous of Kobe. I followed them both closely throughout their careers pre Shaq-leaving LA. I was a Shaq fan way before I became a bonafide Kobe fan but his laziness and much less drive for greatness, exposed by Kobe, turned me completely off. Shaq would have been jealous of MJ as he was jealous of Kobe. why? Shaq knows he's a physically gifted person but also knows he isn't really a great competitor. this bothers anyone that becomes famous and "looked at" as the best player in the NBA YET seeing true greatness of a Kobe or a MJ and knowing that he truly wasn't on their level. real talk. Shaq's numbers and ability to dunk over many isn't what I'm referring to. those are physical abilities he was given. it's his drive, integrity wise that i am referring to. this is exactly why Shaq would come to camp out of shape for MOST OF HIS CAREER. MJ and Shaq would have bumped heads so many times because of that. Shaq was more concerned about being adored than he was about truly being great. the western conference was so tough those years. the eastern champs were actually a first round matchup in the west. the Sacramento kings highest concern wasn't about Shaq. it was about Kobe. the matchups against the spurs as spoken about by Skip Bayless is very funny to me. it wasn't Shaq that caused the most problems. it was Kobe, who was called the San Antonio killer during those days. in fact, the spurs held Shaq to his lowest scoring average in the playoffs. it was Kobe that would turn on a switch in the 4th and finish off the Spurs. so bruh..yes Shaq's ego was super inflated and he would still have been the same insecure child while playing with MJ.
@@augustinechoi9868 hooooly.... Wasn't expecting a giant paragraph
True , VERY TRUE !!!
Shannon is just a 🤡 , wasn’t he saying some really negative things about KD , but somehow he and Lebum would be invincible , when the whole world knows KD doesn’t really care much about lebum and thinks he’s better than him , so how in the world would they Coexist , on the other hand , Goat Air Jordan & Shaq Respected each other . ✌🏼
Kukoc is a pro's pro, he'd know what is unstoppable.MJ and Shaq together would be in the finals every year.
Every Year 💯
Every year easily
Isiah Thomas and Olajawan would beat MJ and Shaq... And they did.
KD & Wilt would take them to 7 games
Was Kobe and Shaq in Finals every year when they played together?
Jordan and pippin already were the best lineup ever 6-0
Here is a fun fact so in 1984 the Portland trailblazers Was going to trade Clyde Drexler and their #2(which became Sam Bowie) to Houston for Ralph Simpson because they needed a big man. MJ and Hakeem and Drexler almost played together their entire careers. That’s 6-8 rings from 1985-1998
Shaq took 3 different teams to the finals so he could play with alot of players too
We asked for different topics. Careful what we ask for. This came out of nowhere 😂
Still better than talking about Lebron on the same topic with a different angle
Right. Topic on ideology. You know these Leftists like fake stuff.
@@Amor1990 Are you really bringing politics out of nowhere? lmao you are reaching so hard. Both extreme right and the left should be laughed at. End of story.
@@Amor1990 ?
@@abouttime2569 this is actually the first day this week they actually brung up lebron lol sooo let’s stop the lebron hate
Shaq won 3 rings with a young Kobe. Prime MJ and young Shaq won't work? FOH. 🤣
Shannon probably knows they would win some rings, it just wouldn't believe it's the best combo
Hey Daemon how's the niece-wife?
Exactly YOUNG Kobe. Prime Mike not being 2nd to shaq that’s what he’s saying
@@BloodandGoldNiner94 😆 underrated comment
He sounds dumb asf
People forget how quick Shaq was , truly Superman
Shaq said it himself, it could’ve worked cuz he respects MJ first and foremost, from the very beginning
Mj and Shaq could probably 4 peat in the 90’s to early 2000s era
I think Lakers would’ve won in 2003 and 2004 with a prime Michael Jordan
It depends if Phil Jackson coach because Jordan has never won without his system
MJ would've won 8 peat if he hadn't retired to play baseball with Pippen MJ and Shaq would have won 10 in a row
@@lilztheking1751 MJ was two games away from the finals with Doug Collins in 89, the very next year with Phil they lost in 7 bc Pippen/Bulls were horrible besides MJ. They wouldn’t need Phil to accomplish that feat. MJ/Shaq are winning regardless.
@@eazyduzit-tr3nx All I'm saying is jordan has not won a ring without phill Jackson and the triangle system and kobe one 5 more with his system so its proven im just talking facts not guessing 🤷
Mike would have made Shaq stay in shape lol. They’d definitely have like 8 rings.
FACTS 💯 MJ banged on the door of the hotel room for Dennis Rodman to get him to go to practice he would’ve been on Shaq to stay in shape
yeah that’s cap, if kobe couldn’t i doubt mike would
@@substitutelife1326 Michael pulled Dennis out of bed with Carmen Electra, so he'd have to pull Shaq out of bed with a roast turkey.
@@dejaunpillay7572”If Kobe couldn’t” lmao Kobe was trying to be like Mike 😂. Just bc he couldn’t do it definitely doesn’t mean MJ couldn’t.
@@dejaunpillay7572 bro what ? 😂 Kobe was the little brother compared to Shaq
“Do you believe Haq and MJ would be the most unbeatable duo ever”
Shannon: “No, because Lebron”
😂 😂 😂
I honestly I was waiting for that… 😂
This debate reminds me of that clip in the last dance..."I ain't Shaq". "Like I said, I ain't Shaq". -MJ when being asked about running into the Jazz who had just neutralized Shaq.
MJ is the one man on the planet that could say that honestly and without hesitation.
The best guard and the most dominant centre of the last 30 years . It would be scary
Mj never played with a dominant center
Mind Blowing
MJ never had Dominant offensive Center or Power forward Ever,
Rodman was Dominant Defense n Rebounding n Was So Undersize, I always said if Jordan would've Join Up with Any Offensive Super Star
He would've never Lost,
Never ,
Never played with a dominant big in a big man era
Not the "best guard", the GOAT
@@MR.__G that’s why he’s the goat. Didn’t need no big man 🤷🏾♂️ all he needed really was a solid reliable SWING MAN. Meanwhile lebron Need the entire monstars squad for a 2nd round exit 🤦🏾♂️
@@karithema9ician657 on top of that, that wing man that became great came in as a rookie who didn’t even start a single game. Bulls front office gave jordan an undeveloped/raw Pippen & said work with that. The real meaning of turning lemons into lemonade..
Lebron always needs 2 top 5 picks or better to win. Wade/bosh, Kyrie/love, AD/Dwight, now AD/russ… but his delusional fanbase bypasses that lol
Jordan and Hakeem would be the most unbeatable duo
Facts. Hakeem could do it all on the court.
I swear media analyst disrespect Hakeem so much just by not bringing him up nearly as much as they should.
Living life in the past is ridiculous
@@stonecold316339 it’s cus he’s not an American and he’s quiet. Similar thing with Duncan
I was thinking about that Magic and Shaq pairing. Wow. Good luck with that one.
Shannon is out of his mind. Shaq would of bowed down to Air Jordan! Shaq knows Jordan is the GOAT
As Kobe said: "If Shaq had my work ethic? He'd be the greatest of all time. He'd have 12 rings."
Why is Shannon making this all technical lol based on pure talent alone MJ and Shaq would dominate. This is a theoretical duo.
Shannon on that yac!!!!
Shannon taking it way to far lol
Bruh fr
Ikr this was an awful take
Because outside of skills, you need to be able to get along off the court and defer to one as the leader. There's a reason Shaq and Kobe fell apart. There's a reason Jordan never had another superstar. Going off skill it would be someone like Magic and Kobe. Lebron and Steph. D Wade and Tim Duncan. They could all get along and play their roles. With a young MJ and Shaq, neither one would back down and it would affect them on the court.
No disrespect to the great Kareem but when they said the idea of Magic and Shaq, my spine started to tingle. The idea of those two together would have been like Stockton and Malone on steroids.
Steroids and Red Bulls
Steroids, Red Bull, and 40 ounces of G fuel
You know Kareem was getting old when they got magic right bruh look at who's on top of the points totals still to this day
It wouldn’t have been similar at all
Magic can’t play pick n roll
@@qualiswilliams7403 Kareem was still prime when getting Magic, and was the reigning MVP during his rookie year. He still made First-Team All NBA at the age of 38, which is a testament to Kareem's greatness.
Hakeem and Michael would be a greater tandem. They are the only players I have seen in my lifetime that were the best offensive and defensive player on the court when they played.
Hakeem was never the best offensive player on the league. The most skilled for sure. The most balance two way big? Yeah. In comparison to other was he the best defensive and comparable offensively? Definitely. But the absolute best offensively? Nah. Robinson, Barkley, and shaq were scoring MACHINES, more efficient than Hakeem, and did so on higher volume, were just as good of passers too.
@@TheIcemanthomas So why does Shaq always say that Hakeem was better than him - and also the only big man he couldn't guard? 🤔🤔🤔
@@scottycranwell283
That was prime Hakeem against 23 yrs old young Skinny Shaq and it was a fierce competition , Prime Shaq would have destroyed prime Hakeem and it won't be even close .
@@yassiamy even Shaq doesn’t think that. You underestimate Hakeem’s overall game man. They would both do well against one another and the better overall team would win - whichever one had it.
Shannon making MJ's GOAT case by confirming that he never played with another true no.1 option
Facts.
Shannon's Obsession with Bron
Can be annoying at times it clouds his judgement
Dude putting up a front. I don't think he really believe Lebron is better than MJ.
SC Challenger i agree, or MJ did something to Shannon’s wife to get him to hate him this much lmao
LeBron never played with a true no 1 option either lol. Wade, Irving, bosh, ad all looked at LeBron to carry them to the gold. Reasons why Bron won finals mvp on every super team he played for
@@DerrickTheTrainer all of the guys you named were the #1 option on their teams and not one of them besides ad wanted lebron to carry them. Ad looked up to lebron but he is carrying lebron
Shaq was great but MJ and Hakeem in the 90s woulda never lost a game. That’s two mvp level all team defense level players on the same squad. Shaq and MJ would be tough too though. Shaq may would have wanted to the be the man when Jordan got older though.
Spot on opinion. Shaq has also praised how difficult it used to be playing against prime Hakeem. I also think from an ego perspective, Jordan and Hakeem would’ve definitely worked better then shaq and Jordan. But regardless, an all time great guard and an all time great big man is usually going to be tough to beat
Now that’s just flat out unfair if mj and the dream is on one team 🤣
They called him The Dream for a reason him and his Airness would have at least 9ine instead of 6ix on those same Bulls teams
@2Real4UNicca Hakeem was picked ahead of the GOAT at number 1 for a reason. They both was some bad men.
Shaq and Mike were polar opposites when it came to practice and getting prepped for games. One was laser focused, the other would just show up and let the game play out. Both had terrible tempers though, so hands would have probably been flying in those practice scrimmages.
I agree that Mike and Dream would have been absolute poetry on the court though. The footwork and movement of those two was just amazing to watch.
Jordan and Hakeem would be an unstoppable duo. That could easily have resulted in 80+ wins
Hakeem would fit better with MJ because he was more selfless than Shaq was. Hakeem had a quadruple double in his career. He was a great passer for a center, had such great footwork and could take the pressure off of Jordan if he was double teamed or on the bench.
LeBron and Kobe>>>MJ and Hakeem
@@dynamic6645 nice. whos gonna have the ball?
I would agree wholeheartedly!!!
They're two of the best help defenders ever too, it would've been suffocating on that end man.
Skip is right, for those 3 years..Shaq was UNSTOPPABLE. I remember watching him and I was just amazed...Shaq was literally unguardable
He wasn't even the best player on his own team when Kobe was the one who DESTROYED and owned the Western conference and The Twin Towers until Diesel played vs who in the finals 🤨
CASE CLOSED!
They implemented zone D and offensive 3in the key to slow Shaq down
@@Mercurial. why Kobe didn’t win a finals mvp then
Shaq won 3 finals mvps in a row and Kobe won 0 during the 3 peat 😂
@@Mercurial. shaq carry kobe super hard 3 times😂
Shannon immediately went away from the actual question....they saying hypothetically if they played together....what are the results....this man went right to lebron who's not even part of the topic 😂😂how bro.....
Shaq was a top 3 player in the league every year from 1994-04
Mj, Hakeem and Karl Malone was the 3 best players in the 90s
Jordan played with Bugs Bunny, he’d play with Shaq
MJ and Hakeem. You couldn't score 100 on that team plus Mike and Dream would be must see TV all 82 games.
Mike or Hakeem ALONE was must see tv. But yeah I take your point... together.
Let’s be real…Shaq ain’t challenging mikes greatness…and Mike wasn’t a ball hog…he would’ve got Shaq the ball
Mike and Shaq would be the best duo in the history of NBA , it’s no question about it
Kobe and Wilt would destroy them.
@@j.nich55 that’s a very valid argument
Destroy? Can someone destroy jordan in prime with some partner elite?
@@samuelcrisostomo1534 bro a prime Wilt would easily man handle Shaq, he’s on record being physically stronger than Shaq, and Kobe was a carbon copy of Jordan so yeah, they definitely would be a problem if you got a prime Kobe and Wilt. He has a valid argument
@@louivillehammer4346 i agree too. There are severals great players that would match ,lebron,durant, kawhi, giannis. .sure, but, it depends on the supporting cast players.but, i definitely bet in favor of mj in his prime alongside shaq
Prime MJ vs. prime Kobe 1-on-1 would be the most epic showdown. It's like if Ryu vs. Ken in Street Fighter II. Or perhaps MJ is more Akuma.
MJ wins
Kobe wins
@@jordanflores5687 Nah
sethu easily
Love this comparison
I disagree with shannon on shaq being stressed over jordan being the alpha on the team. Kobe isn't jordan... players did not respect kobe like they respected jordan. They kneeled to Jordan and understood that he was better than them. Kobe was not nearly as feared nor respected like that, i think shaq would have no issue
You are tripping if you think kobe got no respect. Just the fact that he got MJ respect as a youngster says it all
@@haruspex16 I didn't say he got no respect fo, I said players then respected jordan over kobe hella more
Fun Fact: Shaq actually said in a interview that before he signed with the lakers in 96, that had he known he could’ve signed with the bulls in 96 he would have. His agent at the time just didn’t tell him.
Glad he didn’t. That would’ve been beyond overkill…. He made a big name for himself in LA. He’s the last player to 3 peat since jordan.
Sheesh
The only thing I’ve ever seen from Shaq about signing with the Bulls was when he was talking about KD joining up with the warriors and saying that if he had known you could form super teams he would be just joined up with MJ. But he’s just being dramatic to make his point. When Shaq went to LA he was locked in on the money. He was all set to stay in Orlando until they didn’t want to give him the deal he wanted and once the Lakers told him they had a $120M contract for him he signed on. He wasn’t hunting for the ideal place where he’d win rings he was hunting for the contract and Hollywood. He spent his first three years in LA getting smoked by the eventual western conference champions (Jazz 2x then Spurs) before they had their three peat. And then he left town because the lakers wouldn’t give him the money he wanted. Shaq talks about how much he cared about winning a lot for a dude who made all his moves focused on getting the most money and refusing to sacrifice to make the team better. The last two seasons in LA could’ve easily been more rings if Shaq had actually cared enough to get in shape. And once they traded him to the Heat he dropped 40 pounds that they’d been asking him to lose. You didn’t see him taking any pay cuts to win if you look back.
That would be deadly MJ and Shaq
Big L & 2pac - Deadly Combination
League would’ve been shut down prime MJ and Shaq? Might as well hand them the Chip and flip a coin to see who the FMVP.
MJ's leadership is so underrated
Shannon needs to stay off the weeeeeeedaaaaaaaaa 🤣😂🤣😂😂
“Dancing bear skill.” Skip is hilarious
F'n rediculousness. LeBron would mess them up. 🐐🐐🐐
@@tytytyme33 extreme cap
@@tytytyme33 🧢
I busted out laughing with the dancing bear skill comment 🤣 😅😂
Caruso and Scalabrine
Scalabrine would bully Shaq in the post
Caruso would clamp little Mikey to 0 pts on 0% shooting
I don’t see how anyone could argue with this
I just love when they get on a roll about something together
"he can play everything he can play smallforward , or point guard " hahah love him
of course, shaq & Mj wouldnt be a good match together, let man-groupie shannon tell it... only LEBRON match well with others!💯
You know it was coming....
When did he say that time stamp?
Miss the point. Y’all hate greatness its sad
I mean it's true though.but he never said LeBron was the only one,he said him and kd and he was right.mj played in 3 systems and was only successful with one.he played with the bulls before phil,with Phil and with the wizards.weve seen kd and LeBron flourish on 3-4 different systems...I mean it's not rocket science.mj could barely get along with his teammates,it's no way he was coming at Shaq like he came at Kerr.
@@sdfishinn EXACTLY!!!💯
Topic to discuss : MJ and Shaq teaming up
Shannon: Lebron and KD
And then LBJ groupies talk about “why does Skip always bring up LBJ”, Shannon does this a lot and its crickets from them.
@@eazyduzit-tr3nx This
The topic is actually would shaw and MJ be the best duo ever, he disagreed and said LeBron and KD would be the best duo in his opinion. It's realistic, who's gonna beat LeBron and KD on the same team?
No the topic is do you agree if this would be unstoppable. Shannon disagreed and said his point.
@@singerlee4446 MJ and Shaq lol....or MJ and Olajuwon
Shannon completely changed the question…IF they were on the same team
Shannon is 100% right. Nobody comes close to the greatness of that combo. But there is way too much ego with both those guys
If Shaq took care of himself & that three year stretch would’ve been eight he would be the greatest player of all time. Ain’t a thing anyone could do to stop him.
If shaq could have kept him in shape as he was in orlando...the goat debate would have been over
Nah, mj was way better than prime Shaq. He also has accolades
@@thenotorious2322 the only thing that ever stopped shaq was shaq himself...nobody actually stopped shaq ever...he could have 6 rings...also he beat the Bulls before bulls aquire Rodman..so not really...
@@thenotorious2322 agreed
@@rahulsingh3556 nobody stopped mj either, shaq is the most dominant force of all time, but he would have never been the best player to ever lace em up, that's 2 different things
MJ would love it Shaq beasting in that paint
Skips face and gestures right when Shannon opens his mouth about Jordan is hilarious 😂
They played in 6 all-star games together and they was dominating
Michael Jordan wasn’t worried about “being the greatest” it happened because he went for wins. Michael and Shaq going for wins together would be ridiculous
I believe he did say he wanted to be the Greatest to ever do it. But he knew that inorder to be the Greatest, he had to win the most at his prime. He was, mamba mentality at his prime. I watched it.
you guys have good discussion banter chemistry.
Shannon I’m tired of you knocking Mike he’s the greatest I’ve been a fan of you since Denver years but this is ridiculous Mike was the top dog at that time shaq would’ve loved to work with Mike
He didn't knock Mike once in this segment, not even close. He simply spoke on the insanely powerful, dominate and ruthless personalities that both Mike and Shaq had and how putting them together would likely be an issue. And given my own experience, anyone who has actually experience in physical or mental competition and toughness, the way even Shaq and Kobe were at each other's throats, the way Mike was used to being the Juggernaut on his team etc Shannons points are extremely valid and worth thought and discussion. Both Shannon and Skip were right because Mike DEFINITELY would have to change how he talked to Shaq, couldn't just put his hands on him etc like he did others and it's true that he would either have to change his ways or he may just refuse all together. Mike was Captain, King and Commander at all times and if Shaq was willing to punch Mike's head off for talking to him in a certain way then that obviously wouldn't work for the team. As Skip said, IF they could make it work, IF the respect could be found and differences worked out then absolutely and unquestionably those two would destroyed any and all opposition in their path. I agree with that 100% and think that it'd be a rough start for both players to adjust to such a strong and dominate force on the same team, but I believe that once they play together enough and especially after being in practice together and learning each other, that they would blend together, gain that mutual respect and form a hellish duo to which no one has ever seen 💯
Personality wise, I think MJ and Shaq would have been a Shaq and Kobe repeat. Shaq would be wanting to chill and Mike would be screaming at him 24/7. For a few years they'd be utterly unstoppable but it would fall apart.
I think Hakeem would have been a much better personality fit to pair with Jordan.
kobe wasnt better than shaq
jordan was the goat already to shaq big difference
@@NwoFresh Possibly, but I doubt it. Especially when you consider that Kobe was only super intense about basketball while Jordan is about everything. He'd have been on Shaq 25 hours a day.
@@NwoFresh Shaq was just in his prime, y’all forget Kobe was 17 and couldn’t go out clubbin etc… Prime Kobe and Prime Shaq NEVER played together
@@bossplaya6069 Kobe was almost 26 when he and Shaq’s Lakers lost 4-1 to the Pistons in 2004. And Kobe shot awful in that series. 31 years old for Shaq and 25 years old is about as good of a combination of prime-ish years you’re gonna get. You were never gonna get 2006 Kobe and 2000 Shaq either way.
Talent wise they’d be unstoppable.
Shaq was dominating with his size and strength and jordan was the best scoring threat at that time and prob ever.
Both these guys are killers.
But so where kobe and Shaq, I agree with Shannon there would be friction right away between Jordan and Shaq specially how Shaq was he was a playful child in a 7"2 340 pound body, Jordan was a huge hard as s that wanted perfection to the point he did swing and punched teammates, there was a ton of stories between kobe and Shaq fighting for power that even Phil stepped In and told kobe that Shaq was not getting his was ascending into that leader role around 2003 it was when kobe was going for that 40+ point game streaks kobe had a chance to break the record and was stopped by Phil. Just imagine that with Shaq and Jordan it would be looking like the 2000s trail blazers gang. In terms of just raw power no one would ever stop Jordan and Shaq but the friction and alpha male would end them pretty quick. Just saying if kobe and Shaq got along easily they win 8 or 9 rings.
Rodman and Shaq in the paint 😱
MJ & Shaq would be completely unstoppable🔥💯🔥
Yeap. Totally right
Let's be honest, i'm usually a Shannon fan but hes wrong on this one. Shaq was content with Kobe averaging better numbers in the western Conference playoffs up until the finals. Why wouldn't he allow Jordan. Especially the fact that Shaq was already calling Jordan the best.
I don't know man Lebron and KD together also sounds unbeatable
Well cause Kobe was like a carbon copy of Mike and even more competitive if that was possible so is easy to say that based on the evidence, history suggest it won't work but sure if you just throw names out there would be like saying Magic and all the centers based on name alone could dominate, this is very hypothetical that's why is kinda ridiculous but if you're going to give some credibility to it 5o the point you make a topic about it, then go full on and we have evidence of the "power struggle" or "star struggle" whatever we call it between both so he ain't that far off
your argument is that shaq was okay with it (playoffs) until he wasn’t okay with it (finals) and that means him and Jordan would work out perfectly?? Don’t even make sense logically but that’s your argument🤷🏾♂️ but I don’t even think the basis is facts. Shaq was never content being the number two. The closest he ever got to that was sum like “I’m feeling lazy and it’s an easy team so you can take the ball but just know I’m still the big dawg”🤣
@@dieselx506 the biggest difference is Kobe was young at that time. Shaq was the og.. but when shaq came in the league he knew it was Jordan’s league. Big difference !!
Shaq and Jordan would've won 15 Rings if they were on the same team.
82-0! That would be crazy
Shaq and Duncan, Jordan and Olajuwon, Larry and Magic, LeBron and Curry, Wade and Robinson. So many more. Wilt and West actually did happen and they set the record for consecutive wins that still stands to this day.
I'm sure Jenny was shocked to hear Skip say her name cause I don't think Skip likes her 😭
When they had that little argument Shannon was like "we're a team y'all" skip looked at the camera and said "No"
Shannon..... Bruh if they told Shaq he could play with MJ. Shaq would lose his mind. MJ cared about winning. That's all
Kobe did too Shaq wouldn’t bow down to no one
@Adel Masood Rahman yup !! Jordan was at the top of his game at that time & everyone knew it was his league.
@@pandemicboyz and yet Shaq played 2nd fiddle to Dwade. You seriously think Shaq wanna play the alpha game against the goat? especially the 90s version of SHaq?
Mj wouldve gotten shaq in shape.
Really think Shaq back then was one to listen?
If Kobe couldn’t get Shaq in shape, MJ damn sure couldn’t.
@SuperPunch76 Jordan would of played him game. Kobe cried for trades for years and used excuses truth is Kobe wanted it to be his team he never wanted to share. Shaq & Kareem told Told before the 2012-13 season dominate and get LA back to the finals. Kobe's response this is my team
@@j.nich55 Kobe wasn’t Kobe yet at that time. But Jordan was at the top of the league when shaq began his career. I’m more than sure shaq would’ve had nothing but respect for MJ. He’s also on record saying that he feared jordan. He was scared to get dunked on. Goes to show MJ’s aura
@@MR.__G That all sounds good. But Shaq’s track record throughout his career was bumping heads with his co-star until things came to a head. I can’t imagine Jordan being an exception, no matter how great MJ was.
Indeed the most lethal duo ever...
MJ & SHAQ!!!!
The difference is.... Kobe was comin in after shaq and therefore shaq probably felt like he was the "og" of that situation.. I think shaq would have respected jordan being the vet of the duo, and i think it might have worked out a lil better than shaq and kobe.. Just a thought
Imagine having Shaq in the spot of Luke.
Luke was such a scrub. Not featured in that documentary for a reason.
It was almost done on the Dream Team... They chose Laetnner over Shaq, just because Duke won the championship
Shaq is really 3rd all time on Skip list lmao greatest troll ever
I disagree with Shaq bring as high as top 3, But I get Skip's reasoning Shaq had a top 3 prime.
@@udithsethu552 No, he didn't have a top 3 prime. Longevity matters as well as the opposition you went up against, and even beaten on the biggest stage.
Top 3 bigs yeah… thats facts!!! Who tf could stopped shaq? Name one? Nobody
@@vachalex maybe Hakeem and Wilt in their primes. Idk Shaq hard to deal with
Top 3 peaks arguably.
Didn't we see MJ & Shaq with Shaq & Kobe they are literally the same player
Shaq played Robin with wade, Jordan played role player with the dream team, it would work.
Shaq had no choice due to no longer being the same-caliber player he once was during his tenure in both Orlando and LA. MJ clearly had no choice playing with 10 other hall of fame players on the team. Prime and prime on the same team, their egos would clash.
Wade who couldn't win another playoff series after Shaq until LeBron came to Miami. Wade like Kobe was overrated
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How is Kobe and D-Wade overrated when they were clearly better then Diesel who was just a post up player 😆
@@Mercurial. Neither were better than Shaq. O'Neal came into the NBA as a superstar. They came in as role players 😂😂😂😂😂
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Yeah "A Superstar" that WON 0 💍 after 8 YEARS with a FINALS L'S in his baggage okey if u say so 😂😂😂😂😂
Skip really said Lebron playing with KD would be if you can’t beat them join them like KD didn’t do that in real life joining the Warriors.
Also Miami, Cleveland and now lakers. Lebron is way better at doing it than KD.
@@gip1279 exactly !!! Lebron stans should stay quit when it comes to KD teaming up with other greats. Lebron is on his 3rd big 3 since 2010. The hypocrisy is unreal from these bronsexuals
@@MR.__G false when bron went to heat that team was gettin bounce 1st round playoffs and Cleveland? He played there originally that don’t even make sense and Lakers they was trash for like 7 years before bron even join lmao dude just sayin anything kd went to warriors who he had down 3-1
@@flawdabroly5892 Dwayne wade was top 5 in the league when Lebron joined him then the best player from the raptors also joined them. That team should’ve won 4 straight with that amount of talent because they were all in their primes. Bron went back to cavs because kyrie was there then they got the best player from wolves, now AD is at the Lakers as well as Westbrook and a whole bunch of ex-Allstars. Lebron has played with way more talent than any of the previous greats before him and it’s not even close.
I get Shannon's point on whether they could work together based on personality and how they would talk to each other, but I understand skips point that they wouldn't have to bcuz they would both be doing what need be done
A Jordan and Shaq combo would be unbeatable, it's just too much fire power. The 1996 all-star game is a great example
Nah man! MJ and Hakeem for the win!
LeBron and Shaq would have been a better fit. Jordan and Hakeem would have been an unstoppable duo.
mj and shaq is a better duo
we saw shaq and lebron already eh
Ruler of Worlds Hakeem and MJ would of been better
Maaaaaan.....I swear people forget how agile Shaq was in Orlando.
Dream duo
Shannon put too much thought into this. this is a surface conversation and on paper hypothetically they would probably be unstoppable. we know it wouldn't happen but if it did it wouldn't be fair at all
Jordan and Shaq together would’ve won every single year they played together, they both came into the league as superstars, and the only team that could’ve beaten them would’ve been some kind of trio between Duncan, Kobe and Lebron
If it’s a 3v3 then add bird or Magic to Jordan n Shaq n it’s really over
Michael Jordan and Shaq together that would be Unstoppable
Everyone keeps saying shaq would easily just step down and respect mj. Like are you guys serious?? You are talking about a dude who throws parties THE DAY OF a game, yall really think MJ would say nothing when he had his teammates running laps. come on
Teams are going to try to fight them every game or there would be no other way to win. Just too unstoppable
Hakeem, Hello? Jordan even said he'd never ever lose if they had Hakeem
I think for a 90s team MJ and Shaq are the best
For today I would go with LeBron and Curry, them two on the same team would be unguardable
MJ & MJ: Jordan and Magic
MJ is the GOAT because he dragged scrubs like Bill Cartwright, Will Perdue, Luc Longley, and Bill Wennington to rings. Not to mention Stacey King and the late Jack Haley.
So u just gonna forget he played with pippen, Rodman and Steve Kerr also had the greatest head coach
He made it work with Kobe Mikes clone. Shannon you are a Mike hator. Skip will replace you very soon.
You might be alone on that one 😂
Skip the one need to go
Y'all underestimate Jordan's willingness to pass. He was all about dominating in the interior, and was always trying to work the games from inside out by trying to get the ball to his centers (Cartwright, Wennington, Longley, Purdue, etc...), it's just that the Bulls never had a solid center that MJ could rely on consistently, so he took matters into his own hands.
Shaq couldn't even get along with Penny. Can you imagine MJ? It wouldn't have lasted long. It's a miracle Shaq and Kobe lasted a couple of years and they parted ways.
Magic, Jordan, KD, Bird, Shaq
I think that line up would beat any other line up you could put together. I'm not saying all the players are necessarily the best of all time at that position but this group together would fit the best IMO and be able to beat any other 5. Good defense, good size and 1-5 can go nuclear and get you 50+ any given night
I love this list. I get annoyed when people put lebron over KD at the 3 or put lebron at the 1 🤦🏾♂️ KD is a better FOWARD (Scoring,Blocks,rebounds) than lebron. And magic was a 1000 times better at running point. 🤷🏾♂️honestly I would probably put lebron at the 4 and the 4 ONLY. But he doesn’t fit
@@karithema9ician657 Yea people just get too emotional about LeBron. He's an all time great but since he started this GOAT thing people have lost their minds. I would take line up over anything with LeBron, whether he's at the 1, 3 or 4
Bron, steph, Kobe, Duncan, Hakeem washes this lineup
Mike took Bill winnington to win the finals lol wth u think he would've done with Shaq lol
The difference between Kobe and MJ was that, MJ was already at the top of the latter and Shaq already had a lot of respect for MJ. Not only that, but MJ could facilitate when asked. So sharing the ball wouldn’t be a problem. MJ and Shaq could’ve won every year from the time Shaq entered the league until the time Jordan retired in 98
MJ & Shaq beats 2 on 2 any person that has ever put on shoes.
You know who would be a perfect teammate for MJ? LeBron. Because LeBron will defer to MJ. LeBron emulates his game like Penny. And Larry Bird would be perfect with MJ.
Like penny ehh I dunno about that one, sometimes lbj be, to passive for me