@@nyc1164 ...I second this. It sounded pretty bad on the test footage, but I'm hoping he hadn't done anything to the settings yet. If so, then it's a deal breaker if that's the best it is going to sound. That was an issue with the Session as well. Hoping for more in-depth comparisons of that type of thing in the next video.
Thanks for the review, Dave! Waiting for mine to arrive! I'll be using it for FPV, so I hope to hell it doesn't overheat! Maybe I'll just fly faster. ☺. Looking forward to seeing other feedback from FPV pilots. I think the first thing I'll do is remove the legs and wings. 👍
The camera is designed to do what GoPros were originally designed to do, which has been forgotten by many people. It was not designed for people to sit in their homemade studios and film themselves. It’s an action camera.
@@DavidManningvlog yes but the problem with most bloggers/youtubers doing reviews is they are all "film makers" "creators" or whatever self proclaimed title they give themselves. GoPro give it to people in studios to test. They test it with thermometers and studios, and say the run time without over heating is XX minutes but who needs to record that long? Answer: action sports people! You tell a base jumper they can't jump until camera cools down, tell a free climber to stop and get in some shade, rally driver can you pull over to give the cameras an icebath? A lot of action camera users use it for action, and sometimes that means not missing one second, as opposed to using it to capture their cinematic flipflop. No camera should over heat. Actions sports need reliability. There's rarely a take 2 option. Just my 2 cents.
Thanks for cruising by the GoPro office this week! Pumped that you’re enjoying the small but mighty Mini so far. What better way to test a GoPro than in the rain?! + Let us know if you need to swap that Aloha shirt for a Medium sometime 💪😂
@Dragon Ball does the iPhone have horizon lock? Can you rotate it 360 degrees and maintain a level horizon? Can the iPhone withstand a drop? Does the iPhone cost double? Can you mount the iPhone on nearly everything and have it stay there? The iPhone has a great camera but the use cases are not the same. I don't see many people strapping an iPhone to a dirt bike
I dig it. I know that some people are bummed about not being able to switch out the batteries on the go, but I agree with you on sort of being a "side camera" to your regular GoPro. This isn't meant to be your main GoPro that you use constantly.
what about with a external power supply seems it would be perfect for a hat cam with a USB C cable connected to a small USB power bank in a vest pocket etc.
Hmmm, don't really see the point of this camera to be honest, it's definitely not mini😅And at this price i'd rather buy an older GoPro model and have all the features available. Even for rugged sports you are really limited with that battery time and not being able to change batteries 😕 A new GoPro Max would have been a lot more enticing!
Anyone considering the Mini for their FPV adventures, keep in mind the 11 Black you can take out the battery AND be 2g lighter than the Mini OR you can naked the 11 Black and presumably be lighter than the 10 Bones and definitely the Mini (for now).
Man. Honestly for being so small that audio first off was actually good. Video quality was amazing to me. That’s worth it’s money for sure. I’m don’t watching videos you sold me man. Thank you
I think this would be a great second camera. Would be perfect for the POV on the chin piece of my motorcycle helmet. I never use my GoPro to take pictures and I only use the screen to change settings. I do wish the battery could be changed. What about an external mic? Can I use an external mic with it? Probably need a medium mod. Do they make a medium mod for it?
Mini is just awsome..evrything same as normal 11 in terms of video shooting but the inbuild battery can be an issue if after 3-4 years battery life is weak then it has to be sent to service center for replacement
Surfs up! Super cool media kit! Is there an app for the Apple Watch? That way we can frame it up and shoot. That’s the only draw back to no screen but it’s a double edged sword. I shoot with my iPhone and another GoPro. So having to bounce out of video to set frame could be a pain.
Oh man, an Apple Watch app would be dope to control the GoPro! I can't image they could do framing from it, but even start/stop sort of thing would be awesome!
Here's review items I'd like to see: - Does it Overheat? If so, how long compared to say the regular Hero 11 Black. or better compare it to the 11, 10 and 7. - Battery & Battery life - how does it compare to prior models? What is an "Embedded" battery? Can we swap it when it dies? Can it be replaced? Does it use the same batteries as the regular 11? Can you turn off Wifi to save battery? - Gyroflow - Does it work with Gyroflow so we can get super-smooth stabilization? - Accessories - is it compatible with the "Protective Housing" (waterproof down to 196ft)? I'd really like a camera that doesn't overheat, has great battery life and works with the "Protective Housing" so I can use it for diving. I don't mess with the settings much underwater - so this might be perfect! Although without an interface, it might not let you turn off Wifi which could drain the battery...
All settings are done through your phone app so set it and go. Once setup no need to go back in unless there is a good reason. This is a camera for sure for action that has been designed for it which they had forgotten about since the session. As for battery it would be good if it can be taken apart and new battery fitted or it just becomes electrical waste and that’s not good for the planet.
A bit bummed that its only 13% smaller. If i'm giving up replaceable batteries...I feel like it needs to be for a much smaller device. I want a lighter gopro, but at this point I might just have to look at the DJI ones
Too bad they didn't think to place the lens centered over the mounting. So if you want your footage centered over your surfboard, handlebars, chin, chest, or wherever you mount it, for the view to be actually centered you have to place the mount slightly off-center. So, is the camera completely controlled through the app or can you start and stop recording from the camera itself? You didn't mention any of the operation of it.
I currently use a GoPro hero 7 for fpv drones. Should I buy the hero 11 black mini for fpv? I already have the non-mini hero 11 black. Is it worth the upgrade?
I am actually considering this mini. I already own a hero 9 and 10. For the right price I would pick this up. I know during black friday I will be able to get this at a military discount tax free. To me this would be worth 199 but no more than 250.
@@DavidManningvlog ahhh FYI there is a online store for Active/Vets/retires that has access to which the public doesn't. Every black friday, they discount the latest tech and been picking up every GOPRO ever since. Tax free shhhh
I would say id use the mini for anything id use a session for, anything with high impact risk (only thing to replace is the lens), its smaller so it hides away under helmets better and fits into smaller nooks. Second angle camera? Nah I think main angle camera for people doing actual action sports.
Just got an email an hour ago that my pre-order has finally shipped with an ETA of tomorrow! I’ve been waiting for an updated Session style GoPro for years!! 🙌🥳
I love your videos man. I have the regular Hero 11 and my concern is when shooting in high quality and frames the battery tends to drain faster. I really would like to get this mini but the lack of option to swap a battery not sure if that is something for me. Also, do you know the lifespan on this battery in terms of how many times it can be charged? Thanks.
Got mine yesterday. Picked 4K 8:7 for a helmet-mount setup for hockey. Dialed in the protune settings and messed around with a few test clips. Threw it on the charge so it would be ready for this morning's skate. Solid red light stays on after unplugging it, doesn't respond to button press. Held each one for 30 seconds, then both together both with and without the sd card inserted. Tried plugging into a computer and connecting via the app - nothing.
Good camera, 13% smaller bla bla. Nice quick review BUT the important question is what rain jacket were you wearing? 😂😂 Seemed to keep the rain out really well! Brand and model please, need one... 😜
I would've liked to have known; 1. How much does it weigh? 2. Does it have the same settings functions? If so, are they programmable through the phone, or? 3. How is the interface with the phone/app? Are you finally able to see what you're filming, while you're filming, on the phone/ app? If you are using two GoPros at once, how is the interface with the app? Is one the default, how do you switch between the two, can you mirror settings, can you set separate settings, etc
Solid questions Trixie! 1. Camera comes in at 133g, so about 20g lighter than the full sized 11 2. All settings are programmable through the phone and it can do everything BUT photos mode 3. Quik app is solid. You still can't see while recording, but you can see a preview before hitting record to setup your shot. I'm pretty sure that's a patent issue that GoPro is facing. 4. The Quik app is actually really good about switching between controlling multiple GoPros. Just tap which one you want to change and it connects in about three seconds BONUS: I'm not sure yet if this works with the GoPro remote, but I would imagine it does
It's weird because in your hands, I can feel a slight difference between the 11 and the mini, but on a mount it feels much more significant of a difference
@@DavidManningvlog Does it over heat thou quicker. Normally i would remove the battery so just powered with a power bank, this helped keep it cool enough to use for a good time.
Thanks for the vid! I can’t wait to receive mine. I’m glad to see it shipped 10 days earlier than last expected. I plan to use mine mounted in the more rugged settings. I killed a 10 after I submerged it in the pool a day or two after I cracked the rear screen. The 10 will remain as my versatile hand cam…the mini mounted.
It shuts off in 10 seconds, I can't find a setting in the quick app to adjust that, seems odd they would make the timeout 10 seconds. Sometimes it wont connect to the phone app 😞
Hey David, how would you hook up a mic to this? The media mod obviously won't fit (unless they introduce a new one for it). I am thinking of using it as a moto vlogging camera mounted on the helmet, being lighter. But, I am concerned about battery life & mic input.
Battery life should be just fine. As for the mic input, there isn't one. So you may need to have an external mic record to a different device and then sync in post. However, I am not an audio recording expert.
@@JaredPhillips thanks but I'm aware there is no mic input, im wondering if the mic adapter (3.5mm) will work, or if there is a different accessory, or if it is just not possible?
Because there is no looping what is the process of using it as a dash cam? Presumably it somehow tells you the sd card is full and stops recording? What is the process to then clear the footage to be able to record again?
I realise how much work this would be, but I'd love to get a comparison between the 11 Black and the 11 Black mini, of recording/overheating times in a couple of different resolutions. Even better would be to know when it will overheat when powered with USB, as I personally am looking into using these for on stage cameras at festivals and concerts where ideally they should be able to keep recording for hours. I would probably only use it at the highest resolution/framerate combo that it could handle indefinitely instead of pushing it further. I know this is an action cam, designed to be moving (thus getting sufficient airflow) and not to be standing still recording for hours like in my use case or like in a studio environment, but there don't seem to be any other sub $500 cameras that can do the same high resolution and framerates that many action cams can do.
HERO11 Black Mini is $299.98 for GoPro Subscribers and $399.99 without subscribing. Mini does not support Media Mod nor 3.5mm Pro Mic Adapter. If you need the capability to plug in an external mic, take a look at HERO11 Black with Media Mod or the 3.5mm Pro Mic Adapter. 👍
thanks for not taking a huge dump on this mini like everyone else i watched 😅 I just got mine, a bit late I know.. but it makes me feel a heck of a lot better! 🙏👊
I’m excited about the rear mount! I use my other cameras on my belt, but they don’t tilt up due to the bottom mounts, so I have to mount upside down and hope that it records the correct direction when I hit the button.
Yep..a little jealous. Waiting on mine..but should arrive soon. Will be using it specifically for FPV flights. Better suited for FPV since no front screen to break and more rugged, smaller, lighter. Congrats on getting yours 1st. 🎉👍👍
@@DavidManningvlog Honestly..pick up the DJI AVATA drone. Excellent to get started with! I’ve got a few FPVs but will be mounting it to the AVATA myself. Barriers to entry are less and less in 2022 than ever before. Hit me up if you have any questions. 👍
you do seem to have gone above and beyond - getting rained on quite spectacularly! that is some next level madness, let's hope you don't get a cold or flu after doing that craziness!!!! Was that the audio straight out of the mini? can you attach external mic to it?! and what is the cost - not of the whole box of things you got going on there - very cool by the way. another excellent adventure.
Interested in the audio. I intend to use it as my headcam when orienteering (running in the woods for 1-2 hours) since it is lighter than my Hero 10. I commentate as I compete and so sound is important. Sometimes I connect my Hero 10 to a Rode wireless and lavalier for better sound, unless the weather is bad since that combo is not waterproof, so am interested if this is possible with the mini.
Might be a tough setup to pull off. I haven't tested the GoPro audio adapter on here yet, but if you're filming with the rode wireless mics, then you could record internally to the mic and sync in post. A bit more work, but a decent option to make this work
@@DavidManningvlog Interesting thought but my Rode does not have any internal storage so I'd have to connect it to some kind of small storage device that accepts a microphone input and carry it in a belt. Doesn't sound practical!
@@DavidManningvlog that is the big question I have re the use of external microphones. Being lighter, using it on my motorcycle helmet chin mount with GoPro adapter is what I would use it for. Love your work, all the way on the other side of the world in Australia
Hey David.. I know you get a lot of questions but I really need your advice here.. I just sold my 8 and I have an 11 and 10 but I was gonna buy the mini but on the gopro website it's only $50 cheaper than the 11. With no interchangeable battery and it's intended use will be for mountain biking and ice hockey, do you think it would be worth it or should I just buy another 11 for the extra $50.. I was hoping the smaller form factor would be better for ice hockey as it would be lighter on the helmut but it sounds like sacrificing the battery swapping ability and the ease of use of the touch screen may not be worth the offset in weight.. I know I am asking you to decide what is best for me and that is ridiculous but I thought it would be $100 cheaper.. At only $50 I'm just curious if someone with real world experience with both would be able to maybe offer me something I haven't thought about... Thanks either way for the quick review..
Would love to have seen the pitch meeting for this and them trying to explain why it isn't exactly like the old sessions, or actually exactly like the original go pro...
I have issues with the other cameras where I have to reset the battery because it fails. Though I havent used the the battery tech. Can you do a underwater temp test with the mini?
Also I'm planning to buy gopro 11 to use with my insta360 x3.. but I am wanting to combine all my videos from both cameras into 1 ..is that do able and simple as loading SD into 1 video editing software?
Thanks for the review. I've been looking for a replacement for my session 5 but not sure that's it. It's much heavier than the session and not much lighter than the full version. Could you talk about horizon lock? That's important for actual action filming where the camera can spin 360.
I feel they missed the mark on this camera, its only $100 cheaper than the normal 11 in my region which is around 15%. I would be interested in a second camera angle. But for that price you might as well just buy the regular version. Would have been nice to see a cut down version that was around 2K60 and only cost 50% of the regular version. Not sure how successful this will be. Also wish they would design a external mic setup that was fully waterproof.
I have really liked using the Mini. I don't mind that it doesn't take photos. It's lighter, smaller, and has the same quality as its big brother. I also don't mind that it doesn't have a backscreen since I just mount it to my helmet and shoot in HyperView so I know I will get the shot.
Same! Got mine yesterday, dialed in the settings and took some test clips. Threw it on the charge so it'd be ready for hockey this morning. It's bricked. Solid red light, doesn't respond to anything. Unfortunate.
I’m the one person who uses the GoPro in low light, specifically the “Night Lapse” feature. Interestingly in my tests the Hero 11 is terrible with this and the Hero 10 is perfect. I’m curious if the sensor is worse for low light? Anyway this comment belongs in another video but dropping it here. Epic video!
Super interesting to hear that Jason! GoPro actually touts that the Hero 11 has better low light performance than the 10, but with a new sensor design, I wonder if they just haven't optimized the software for the new sensor yet. I'll do some testing on this and maybe we have a new video on our hands!
@@DavidManningvlog as a follow up, I installed the new firmware and it has improved the output. However I shot this morning using the Hero 10 beside the hero 11. Same standard night lapse settings. The Hero 10 produced a 30 second night lapse and the Hero 11 produced a 5 second night lapse. The output was improved but I would have expected more like the 10.
David, you really hit the nail on the head when you were talking about buying this for a secondary angle. I have an 8, a 10 and now the mini. I bought it to put on my sons helmet so he can film skate videos. He is 8 years old and that Hero 8 Black was weighing his helmet down. After we got the camera we immediately updated it and put it on his helmet. It was exactly what we were looking for. It is lighter than the Hero 8 and less to break when he does fall Excellent review!
According to official info + my own kitchen weight, gopro hero 8 black is 125g and according to official info, 11 mini is 133g. Unfortunately I don’t have the 11 mini to compare, but that was also the reason I wanted the mini. The weight reduction. Would You be able to compare their weight ? Since You have both.
Hey David, I'm a large! Anyway, thought it was worth a shot. Plenty of uses for a mini in event videography, on the alter at a wedding, on the band, at the bride's table, etc. Also, I do a lot of miniature railroad stuff and this little camera will fit nicely on a gondola to be pushed around the layout. Lots of uses come to mind. And, it never rains in Southern California!
Seems like a specialist camera only - it'll be great for multi camera set-ups like you said, but everyday users need to at least see at a glance if its even on and recording, not to mention having to get my iphone out, halfway down a hill in the pissing-down rain to check if it was pointed in the right direction... Better to buy the myopic DJI 3 or stump up the extra cash for the 'full works' duel screen, swappable battery, only 13% bigger brother... Wow, those screens, menus and functionality must weigh a lot... Thanks for the early review 👍
Can you livestream with the mini? (I guess I can look it up) 😂 I use a GoPro hero 10 to film my son’s baseball games. The camera doesn’t like filming in 100° weather. I’m wondering if this new GoPro can withstand heat better. Thank you for all your videos.
I think this is not a small enough camera to buy over the regular GoPro and give up the lens and battery change ability. For drones, they already have something thinner… I don’t see the vast use for this
Nice unboxing!! Question: The legs can be removed? If so, what would be the weight without legs? I'll use it mainly for FPV and would be great a few less grams
no gps for a rugged action orientated video cam? which also cannot change battery. i really want to understand the logic of making it 11% smaller but sacrificing the pretty important features you need shooting outdoor and remote areas. Unless it is only intent to be use with drones where you can obtain more power from the main battery. But however you see it this thing doesnt really fit the bill.
@@DavidManningvlog yeah, those parts are pretty good 😁. You did make a really good point about camera B tho. That's what I used my original session for also. Cameras are sooo good, like every day they get just a lil bit better!
Pretty cool little device, but honestly, doesn't make me feel like I have to go out and get it. Now, if I was more into FPV and didn't want to deal with the Hero 10 Bones or whatever it was called, maybe I'd look at it, but IDK. Just doesn't seem like something I feel like I need. But love your reviews, as always. Just so fun how much enjoyment you got out of being a big kid and biking around in the rain.
Thanks Milledge! Yeah, I for sure don't think anyone should be running to buy one of these, but rather wait until they're needing either that second angle or a rougher tougher GoPro for some real abuse and not needing to worry about smashing the lenses
Oh my goodness this is absolutely fabulous! I just got a text from GoPro about this camera and I thought this is the answer to what I’ve been looking for and then I thought I wonder if David Manning is going to do a video and I checked and you just did one!!!!
Love the dedication, out in the pouring rain, you'd fit right in here in Scotland! I'd love to see Hero 11 Mini vs the Insta360 tiny cam (Sorry forgot the name, is it "Go 2"?). As a "which would I pick up first".
@@DavidManningvlog Literally bought a house TODAY, get the keys tomorrow, so if you're ever planning a trip to Scotland, there 2 spare rooms going if needed! (come in Summer, slightly less rain). You've got to do NC500 - Tour of Scotland!
I've got the first one! Let me know what questions you guys have and what you want to see from this thing!
Try it with external power
How is the sound?
is the USB C/ SD Card door removable? i'm hoping someone comes out with a new door with a pass through for the USB cable
@@nyc1164 ...I second this. It sounded pretty bad on the test footage, but I'm hoping he hadn't done anything to the settings yet. If so, then it's a deal breaker if that's the best it is going to sound. That was an issue with the Session as well. Hoping for more in-depth comparisons of that type of thing in the next video.
Thanks for the review, Dave! Waiting for mine to arrive! I'll be using it for FPV, so I hope to hell it doesn't overheat! Maybe I'll just fly faster. ☺. Looking forward to seeing other feedback from FPV pilots. I think the first thing I'll do is remove the legs and wings. 👍
The camera is designed to do what GoPros were originally designed to do, which has been forgotten by many people. It was not designed for people to sit in their homemade studios and film themselves. It’s an action camera.
Yep. And they reiterated that many times to me. THIS CAMERA IS AN ACTION CAMERA. Pretty stoked on this one!
Finally someone said it!
@@DavidManningvlog yes but the problem with most bloggers/youtubers doing reviews is they are all "film makers" "creators" or whatever self proclaimed title they give themselves. GoPro give it to people in studios to test. They test it with thermometers and studios, and say the run time without over heating is XX minutes but who needs to record that long? Answer: action sports people! You tell a base jumper they can't jump until camera cools down, tell a free climber to stop and get in some shade, rally driver can you pull over to give the cameras an icebath? A lot of action camera users use it for action, and sometimes that means not missing one second, as opposed to using it to capture their cinematic flipflop. No camera should over heat. Actions sports need reliability. There's rarely a take 2 option. Just my 2 cents.
so what if you start working out in yer home-made studio? the camera wont record it then
@@Akastaten lmao with crap prest lut and slo mo clips
Thanks for cruising by the GoPro office this week! Pumped that you’re enjoying the small but mighty Mini so far. What better way to test a GoPro than in the rain?! + Let us know if you need to swap that Aloha shirt for a Medium sometime 💪😂
😂😂😂😂please make a new and improved 360 camera😂😂😂😂😂😂😊
Thanks for having me! Pretty stoked to get that little surfer man out in some waves this weekend!
@@akafreaks1576 for real! @gopro where's the updated Max???
@Dragon Ball does the iPhone have horizon lock? Can you rotate it 360 degrees and maintain a level horizon? Can the iPhone withstand a drop? Does the iPhone cost double? Can you mount the iPhone on nearly everything and have it stay there?
The iPhone has a great camera but the use cases are not the same. I don't see many people strapping an iPhone to a dirt bike
Your website is down dude. Wont except my order.....
I dig it. I know that some people are bummed about not being able to switch out the batteries on the go, but I agree with you on sort of being a "side camera" to your regular GoPro. This isn't meant to be your main GoPro that you use constantly.
what about with a external power supply seems it would be perfect for a hat cam with a USB C cable connected to a small USB power bank in a vest pocket etc.
For sure seems to be setup as an FPV/POV or second angle cam style
@@BassManStrikes That would be a solid setup and work perfectly!
@@DavidManningvlog does it work perfectly? With USB power bank charging whilst recording? I haven't seen anyone try this.
@@Akastaten I do this with almost every other version of gopro. 3, 3+, session, 7, 8, 9
Hmmm, don't really see the point of this camera to be honest, it's definitely not mini😅And at this price i'd rather buy an older GoPro model and have all the features available. Even for rugged sports you are really limited with that battery time and not being able to change batteries 😕 A new GoPro Max would have been a lot more enticing!
Anyone considering the Mini for their FPV adventures, keep in mind the 11 Black you can take out the battery AND be 2g lighter than the Mini OR you can naked the 11 Black and presumably be lighter than the 10 Bones and definitely the Mini (for now).
My main and only real concern is how long/how many charge cycles that Internal battery will take before puffing up and rendering it useless
I’m sure like mobile phones there’ll be replacement options when it gives up.
@@AbellTo 2 years warranty ;)
Man. Honestly for being so small that audio first off was actually good. Video quality was amazing to me. That’s worth it’s money for sure. I’m don’t watching videos you sold me man. Thank you
Thanks for the review. What have you found can be done about the battery making the camera so hot?
I think this would be a great second camera. Would be perfect for the POV on the chin piece of my motorcycle helmet. I never use my GoPro to take pictures and I only use the screen to change settings. I do wish the battery could be changed. What about an external mic? Can I use an external mic with it? Probably need a medium mod. Do they make a medium mod for it?
Mini is just awsome..evrything same as normal 11 in terms of video shooting but the inbuild battery can be an issue if after 3-4 years battery life is weak then it has to be sent to service center for replacement
Surfs up! Super cool media kit! Is there an app for the Apple Watch? That way we can frame it up and shoot. That’s the only draw back to no screen but it’s a double edged sword. I shoot with my iPhone and another GoPro. So having to bounce out of video to set frame could be a pain.
Oh man, an Apple Watch app would be dope to control the GoPro! I can't image they could do framing from it, but even start/stop sort of thing would be awesome!
I just starting flying FPV, with a vertical mount the mini will be great on top of a drone
I'm thinking this is a very FPV focused camera!
Here's review items I'd like to see:
- Does it Overheat? If so, how long compared to say the regular Hero 11 Black. or better compare it to the 11, 10 and 7.
- Battery & Battery life - how does it compare to prior models? What is an "Embedded" battery? Can we swap it when it dies? Can it be replaced? Does it use the same batteries as the regular 11? Can you turn off Wifi to save battery?
- Gyroflow - Does it work with Gyroflow so we can get super-smooth stabilization?
- Accessories - is it compatible with the "Protective Housing" (waterproof down to 196ft)?
I'd really like a camera that doesn't overheat, has great battery life and works with the "Protective Housing" so I can use it for diving. I don't mess with the settings much underwater - so this might be perfect! Although without an interface, it might not let you turn off Wifi which could drain the battery...
All settings are done through your phone app so set it and go. Once setup no need to go back in unless there is a good reason. This is a camera for sure for action that has been designed for it which they had forgotten about since the session. As for battery it would be good if it can be taken apart and new battery fitted or it just becomes electrical waste and that’s not good for the planet.
A bit bummed that its only 13% smaller. If i'm giving up replaceable batteries...I feel like it needs to be for a much smaller device. I want a lighter gopro, but at this point I might just have to look at the DJI ones
Too bad they didn't think to place the lens centered over the mounting. So if you want your footage centered over your surfboard, handlebars, chin, chest, or wherever you mount it, for the view to be actually centered you have to place the mount slightly off-center.
So, is the camera completely controlled through the app or can you start and stop recording from the camera itself? You didn't mention any of the operation of it.
Dang! Missed ya at the office yesterday !
Oh dude! Are you out of the Carlsbad office?! I’ll have to swing by again soon, would love to meet you man!
@@DavidManningvlog I rarely go into the office but I'm around! I live in cbad. Let's link up!
I currently use a GoPro hero 7 for fpv drones. Should I buy the hero 11 black mini for fpv? I already have the non-mini hero 11 black. Is it worth the upgrade?
Can it be used with a single microphone cable? , Do I need another sound card for microphone cable like old generation go pro cameras?
Can you preview through the Quick App before recording
Yep, but same as their other cameras, you can't view while recording
I am actually considering this mini. I already own a hero 9 and 10. For the right price I would pick this up. I know during black friday I will be able to get this at a military discount tax free. To me this would be worth 199 but no more than 250.
I doubt that there will be Black Friday deals on this since it's so new, but that military discount will certainly help!
@@DavidManningvlog ahhh FYI there is a online store for Active/Vets/retires that has access to which the public doesn't. Every black friday, they discount the latest tech and been picking up every GOPRO ever since. Tax free shhhh
I would say id use the mini for anything id use a session for, anything with high impact risk (only thing to replace is the lens), its smaller so it hides away under helmets better and fits into smaller nooks. Second angle camera? Nah I think main angle camera for people doing actual action sports.
Just got an email an hour ago that my pre-order has finally shipped with an ETA of tomorrow! I’ve been waiting for an updated Session style GoPro for years!! 🙌🥳
Stoked to start hearing what everyone thinks about this thing!
Can you unscrew the bottom mounts and add the telesin mount that has the tripod screw mount built in?
Should be able to! Has the same four screws as the Hero 11 black
I love your videos man. I have the regular Hero 11 and my concern is when shooting in high quality and frames the battery tends to drain faster. I really would like to get this mini but the lack of option to swap a battery not sure if that is something for me. Also, do you know the lifespan on this battery in terms of how many times it can be charged? Thanks.
what kind of sunglasses do you have on ? pretty slick,
This doesnt have hindsight either does it?
Nice, mine is coming tomorrow, I will be using it on my hat cam mount for Kayak fishing 🙂 Hopefully it supports running from a external power source 🤔
Sure does! I think you'll be stoked on that setup
GoPro: After reviewing our GoPro mini, David Manning has been quoted as saying “I need to change my underwear, I am very very wet”
Hahhaaa! Put that on the website!
i assume charging with power bank no issue ? and then is it unlimited run time ? cheers
Correct👍
@@DavidManningvlog cheers mate
Got mine yesterday. Picked 4K 8:7 for a helmet-mount setup for hockey. Dialed in the protune settings and messed around with a few test clips. Threw it on the charge so it would be ready for this morning's skate. Solid red light stays on after unplugging it, doesn't respond to button press. Held each one for 30 seconds, then both together both with and without the sd card inserted. Tried plugging into a computer and connecting via the app - nothing.
Good camera, 13% smaller bla bla. Nice quick review BUT the important question is what rain jacket were you wearing? 😂😂 Seemed to keep the rain out really well! Brand and model please, need one... 😜
Outdoor research Foray II👍 LOVE that thing!
I would've liked to have known;
1. How much does it weigh?
2. Does it have the same settings functions? If so, are they programmable through the phone, or?
3. How is the interface with the phone/app? Are you finally able to see what you're filming, while you're filming, on the phone/ app? If you are using two GoPros at once, how is the interface with the app? Is one the default, how do you switch between the two, can you mirror settings, can you set separate settings, etc
Solid questions Trixie!
1. Camera comes in at 133g, so about 20g lighter than the full sized 11
2. All settings are programmable through the phone and it can do everything BUT photos mode
3. Quik app is solid. You still can't see while recording, but you can see a preview before hitting record to setup your shot. I'm pretty sure that's a patent issue that GoPro is facing.
4. The Quik app is actually really good about switching between controlling multiple GoPros. Just tap which one you want to change and it connects in about three seconds
BONUS: I'm not sure yet if this works with the GoPro remote, but I would imagine it does
GoPro Hero 11 & also the mini:-
Does it have wi-fi?
Can you use it wired to a plug?
Can you watch live, on your iPhone/iPad?
Is mic adapter still recognize by Hero 11 mini? Can you make a video?
Is the mini noticeably lighter when used with mouth mount? Be nice to have something lighter for surfing POV.
It's weird because in your hands, I can feel a slight difference between the 11 and the mini, but on a mount it feels much more significant of a difference
Appreciate you going in the rain.
Anything for the cause👍
Thanks for the review 🚲 I love riding in the rain! It makes me feel alive!
how fast is this cam charging? and what is the minimum working temperature, I want to shoot a snowboarding trip
It would be good to know if an external mic adaptor is available for it? You can see from my channel, I need this for motovlogging in the desert
This is clearly a FPV drone GoPro. OR a GoPro you mount in places you know it will get scratched like under a car etc.
I need to pick up an FPV drone so I can use it for both!
Are they planing a Media Mod for this? Can you connect a microphone?
Can you recharge this with a power bank and use at same time to extend the time recording.
Sure can!
@@DavidManningvlog Does it over heat thou quicker. Normally i would remove the battery so just powered with a power bank, this helped keep it cool enough to use for a good time.
Thanks for the vid! I can’t wait to receive mine. I’m glad to see it shipped 10 days earlier than last expected.
I plan to use mine mounted in the more rugged settings. I killed a 10 after I submerged it in the pool a day or two after I cracked the rear screen. The 10 will remain as my versatile hand cam…the mini mounted.
Damn those screens! Amazing to use, but for sure the achilles heel of the camera. This will be a solid rugged little device for banging around
How about Microphones? Is the mimi better in recording sound on e Bike that goes 30mph.
Is it posible to start 2 GoPros simultaniously by a remote?
It shuts off in 10 seconds, I can't find a setting in the quick app to adjust that, seems odd they would make the timeout 10 seconds. Sometimes it wont connect to the phone app 😞
Mine just arrived in the mail. My first GoPro, pretty stoked to use it.
Hey David, how would you hook up a mic to this? The media mod obviously won't fit (unless they introduce a new one for it). I am thinking of using it as a moto vlogging camera mounted on the helmet, being lighter. But, I am concerned about battery life & mic input.
Battery life should be just fine. As for the mic input, there isn't one. So you may need to have an external mic record to a different device and then sync in post. However, I am not an audio recording expert.
@@JaredPhillips thanks but I'm aware there is no mic input, im wondering if the mic adapter (3.5mm) will work, or if there is a different accessory, or if it is just not possible?
@@MRMRS2wheeler I don't think it's possible.
@@JaredPhillips well that sucks 😔
I have the Hero Max and I am thinking about picking this up for things like rock climbing or just out and about.
Because there is no looping what is the process of using it as a dash cam? Presumably it somehow tells you the sd card is full and stops recording? What is the process to then clear the footage to be able to record again?
Definitely getting one of these and it is going to live on my bike helmet forever.
smaller lighter good for helmet cam , chin mount , wrist mount
Nailed it
I realise how much work this would be, but I'd love to get a comparison between the 11 Black and the 11 Black mini, of recording/overheating times in a couple of different resolutions. Even better would be to know when it will overheat when powered with USB, as I personally am looking into using these for on stage cameras at festivals and concerts where ideally they should be able to keep recording for hours. I would probably only use it at the highest resolution/framerate combo that it could handle indefinitely instead of pushing it further.
I know this is an action cam, designed to be moving (thus getting sufficient airflow) and not to be standing still recording for hours like in my use case or like in a studio environment, but there don't seem to be any other sub $500 cameras that can do the same high resolution and framerates that many action cams can do.
I was looking for a good webcam. Can the mini double as one?
Big question is how much$? and does it allow an external mic to be attached? Love your content!
HERO11 Black Mini is $299.98 for GoPro Subscribers and $399.99 without subscribing. Mini does not support Media Mod nor 3.5mm Pro Mic Adapter. If you need the capability to plug in an external mic, take a look at HERO11 Black with Media Mod or the 3.5mm Pro Mic Adapter. 👍
$450 or $300 if you have a GoPro subscription.
thanks for not taking a huge dump on this mini like everyone else i watched 😅 I just got mine, a bit late I know.. but it makes me feel a heck of a lot better! 🙏👊
I’m excited about the rear mount! I use my other cameras on my belt, but they don’t tilt up due to the bottom mounts, so I have to mount upside down and hope that it records the correct direction when I hit the button.
Glad you are reviewing this camera gadget and not me. I was interested in it only about 25% and you appear way more jazzed. Nice review, David!
Tiny waterproof cameras give me above average levels of joy
Great job on the video David! Thanks for making it.
Will the lens mod work with this or does it have built in horizon lock?
Yep..a little jealous. Waiting on mine..but should arrive soon. Will be using it specifically for FPV flights. Better suited for FPV since no front screen to break and more rugged, smaller, lighter. Congrats on getting yours 1st. 🎉👍👍
Which FPV setup are you using this with?! And also, if I wanted to get into FPV, which drone would you recommend for me?
@@DavidManningvlog Honestly..pick up the DJI AVATA drone. Excellent to get started with! I’ve got a few FPVs but will be mounting it to the AVATA myself. Barriers to entry are less and less in 2022 than ever before. Hit me up if you have any questions. 👍
@@RGMGFitness i am planning on buying the avata, would you recommend me getting a DJI camera or a GoPro?
@@aryanmaheshwari2613 personally…I feel GoPro cameras are the way to go. GoPro Bones or new GoPro11 Mini. Lighter the better. 👍👍
So how do you know what you film if there is no display
how many mini and blacks can you link together with the camera controller?
you do seem to have gone above and beyond - getting rained on quite spectacularly! that is some next level madness, let's hope you don't get a cold or flu after doing that craziness!!!!
Was that the audio straight out of the mini? can you attach external mic to it?! and what is the cost - not of the whole box of things you got going on there - very cool by the way.
another excellent adventure.
Interested in the audio. I intend to use it as my headcam when orienteering (running in the woods for 1-2 hours) since it is lighter than my Hero 10. I commentate as I compete and so sound is important. Sometimes I connect my Hero 10 to a Rode wireless and lavalier for better sound, unless the weather is bad since that combo is not waterproof, so am interested if this is possible with the mini.
Use stick on dead cats. I get great sound on my Hero 10 doing that.
Might be a tough setup to pull off. I haven't tested the GoPro audio adapter on here yet, but if you're filming with the rode wireless mics, then you could record internally to the mic and sync in post. A bit more work, but a decent option to make this work
@@DavidManningvlog Interesting thought but my Rode does not have any internal storage so I'd have to connect it to some kind of small storage device that accepts a microphone input and carry it in a belt. Doesn't sound practical!
@@BassManStrikes My hands are busy holding a map and sometimes pushing aside branches, carrying the camera on a stick is not practical.
@@DavidManningvlog that is the big question I have re the use of external microphones. Being lighter, using it on my motorcycle helmet chin mount with GoPro adapter is what I would use it for.
Love your work, all the way on the other side of the world in Australia
Hey David.. I know you get a lot of questions but I really need your advice here.. I just sold my 8 and I have an 11 and 10 but I was gonna buy the mini but on the gopro website it's only $50 cheaper than the 11. With no interchangeable battery and it's intended use will be for mountain biking and ice hockey, do you think it would be worth it or should I just buy another 11 for the extra $50.. I was hoping the smaller form factor would be better for ice hockey as it would be lighter on the helmut but it sounds like sacrificing the battery swapping ability and the ease of use of the touch screen may not be worth the offset in weight.. I know I am asking you to decide what is best for me and that is ridiculous but I thought it would be $100 cheaper.. At only $50 I'm just curious if someone with real world experience with both would be able to maybe offer me something I haven't thought about... Thanks either way for the quick review..
Would love to have seen the pitch meeting for this and them trying to explain why it isn't exactly like the old sessions, or actually exactly like the original go pro...
Biking in Boston for years taught me one secret that I still find useful in California in the rainy season... rain pants.
Question, I ride SXS in the mountains of Tennessee and take videos and pics. Is this better option than using my phone?
oh hell yeah. Your phone would probably get lots of shaky footage. look up gopro footage comparisons. Good luck!
I have issues with the other cameras where I have to reset the battery because it fails. Though I havent used the the battery tech. Can you do a underwater temp test with the mini?
I want to know how you control multiple go-pros on a single phone using the app
I'm curious to use this on a motorcycle helmet. The audio will no doubt have to be a separate track.
Would be solid for a motorcycle helmet! Pretty sure the GoPro audio adapter works with this
What is the weight difference between the two cameras?
This will be perfect for use on my motorcycle helmet. The question I have is, will the GoPro Remote work with this camera?
The new GoPro remote (the same one that controls my Hero 10) works for the Mini 11. The biggest drawback for me with the Mini 11 is no hindsight mode.
Also I'm planning to buy gopro 11 to use with my insta360 x3.. but I am wanting to combine all my videos from both cameras into 1 ..is that do able and simple as loading SD into 1 video editing software?
Thanks for the review. I've been looking for a replacement for my session 5 but not sure that's it. It's much heavier than the session and not much lighter than the full version. Could you talk about horizon lock? That's important for actual action filming where the camera can spin 360.
I feel they missed the mark on this camera, its only $100 cheaper than the normal 11 in my region which is around 15%. I would be interested in a second camera angle. But for that price you might as well just buy the regular version. Would have been nice to see a cut down version that was around 2K60 and only cost 50% of the regular version. Not sure how successful this will be. Also wish they would design a external mic setup that was fully waterproof.
My sentiments exactly.
The fpv community has been begging them for a new session.
I have really liked using the Mini. I don't mind that it doesn't take photos. It's lighter, smaller, and has the same quality as its big brother. I also don't mind that it doesn't have a backscreen since I just mount it to my helmet and shoot in HyperView so I know I will get the shot.
How did you get your hands on the 11 mini already?!!!
@@StefanMailey similar to how David gets product early to test
@@JaredPhillips sick! I’ll head I we to your page and subscribe! Look forward to your reviews buddy!
Nice way to say David Manning is a lier for saying he got the first one without directly criticizing him about that xD
@@TheGoodContent37 We all know that the GoPro athletes are the ones who get them first.
We record a lot of hockey with Gopro so looking at this one because of the smaller size, thanks for this review
Same! Got mine yesterday, dialed in the settings and took some test clips. Threw it on the charge so it'd be ready for hockey this morning. It's bricked. Solid red light, doesn't respond to anything. Unfortunate.
Overheating an issue? Do a test please NM you said at the end lol
On it👍
I’m the one person who uses the GoPro in low light, specifically the “Night Lapse” feature. Interestingly in my tests the Hero 11 is terrible with this and the Hero 10 is perfect. I’m curious if the sensor is worse for low light? Anyway this comment belongs in another video but dropping it here. Epic video!
Super interesting to hear that Jason! GoPro actually touts that the Hero 11 has better low light performance than the 10, but with a new sensor design, I wonder if they just haven't optimized the software for the new sensor yet. I'll do some testing on this and maybe we have a new video on our hands!
@@DavidManningvlog as a follow up, I installed the new firmware and it has improved the output. However I shot this morning using the Hero 10 beside the hero 11. Same standard night lapse settings. The Hero 10 produced a 30 second night lapse and the Hero 11 produced a 5 second night lapse. The output was improved but I would have expected more like the 10.
David, you really hit the nail on the head when you were talking about buying this for a secondary angle. I have an 8, a 10 and now the mini. I bought it to put on my sons helmet so he can film skate videos. He is 8 years old and that Hero 8 Black was weighing his helmet down. After we got the camera we immediately updated it and put it on his helmet. It was exactly what we were looking for. It is lighter than the Hero 8 and less to break when he does fall Excellent review!
According to official info + my own kitchen weight, gopro hero 8 black is 125g and according to official info, 11 mini is 133g. Unfortunately I don’t have the 11 mini to compare, but that was also the reason I wanted the mini. The weight reduction.
Would You be able to compare their weight ? Since You have both.
Hey David, I'm a large! Anyway, thought it was worth a shot. Plenty of uses for a mini in event videography, on the alter at a wedding, on the band, at the bride's table, etc. Also, I do a lot of miniature railroad stuff and this little camera will fit nicely on a gondola to be pushed around the layout. Lots of uses come to mind. And, it never rains in Southern California!
Seems like a specialist camera only - it'll be great for multi camera set-ups like you said, but everyday users need to at least see at a glance if its even on and recording, not to mention having to get my iphone out, halfway down a hill in the pissing-down rain to check if it was pointed in the right direction... Better to buy the myopic DJI 3 or stump up the extra cash for the 'full works' duel screen, swappable battery, only 13% bigger brother... Wow, those screens, menus and functionality must weigh a lot... Thanks for the early review 👍
Can you livestream with the mini? (I guess I can look it up) 😂 I use a GoPro hero 10 to film my son’s baseball games. The camera doesn’t like filming in 100° weather. I’m wondering if this new GoPro can withstand heat better. Thank you for all your videos.
I think this is not a small enough camera to buy over the regular GoPro and give up the lens and battery change ability. For drones, they already have something thinner… I don’t see the vast use for this
This will be good on Downhill mountain bikers. Mini will side under the helmet visor and the rear finger mounts is perfect
Yeah, I think this came straight from their team riders and athletes. Seems like a lot of features that are geared towards extreme athletes
Nice unboxing!! Question: The legs can be removed? If so, what would be the weight without legs?
I'll use it mainly for FPV and would be great a few less grams
I saw 4 screws on that bottom mount so it looks like it can be removed.
No idea what weight savings you'll get, but both sets of flip down feet are removable
Thank you! that's good news! I'll be looking forward if you consider share that info in your next review!
Thanks! let see how much weight we'll be saving without those!
How do I change the setting easily to slo mo without using the Quik App?
no gps for a rugged action orientated video cam? which also cannot change battery. i really want to understand the logic of making it 11% smaller but sacrificing the pretty important features you need shooting outdoor and remote areas. Unless it is only intent to be use with drones where you can obtain more power from the main battery. But however you see it this thing doesnt really fit the bill.
You changed to a cool and cozy-looking hoody. Where can I get one?
Why can't I find any protective cases for the 11 mini ?
They don't really need them, so companies probably feel like they wouldn't sell
Looks like a revamped and giant session.
But a session that can shoot at the same frame rates and 8:7 ration as the 11🤯
@@DavidManningvlog yeah, those parts are pretty good 😁. You did make a really good point about camera B tho. That's what I used my original session for also. Cameras are sooo good, like every day they get just a lil bit better!
Please do a comparison 11 mini vs Go 2
i might buy this for my fitness progress portfolio!
Thanks for going outbid the rain mats. Really appreciate it. Awesome viewing 😂😂😂
More footage coming soon🤣
Pretty cool little device, but honestly, doesn't make me feel like I have to go out and get it. Now, if I was more into FPV and didn't want to deal with the Hero 10 Bones or whatever it was called, maybe I'd look at it, but IDK. Just doesn't seem like something I feel like I need.
But love your reviews, as always. Just so fun how much enjoyment you got out of being a big kid and biking around in the rain.
Thanks Milledge! Yeah, I for sure don't think anyone should be running to buy one of these, but rather wait until they're needing either that second angle or a rougher tougher GoPro for some real abuse and not needing to worry about smashing the lenses
Oh my goodness this is absolutely fabulous! I just got a text from GoPro about this camera and I thought this is the answer to what I’ve been looking for and then I thought I wonder if David Manning is going to do a video and I checked and you just did one!!!!
Love the dedication, out in the pouring rain, you'd fit right in here in Scotland!
I'd love to see Hero 11 Mini vs the Insta360 tiny cam (Sorry forgot the name, is it "Go 2"?). As a "which would I pick up first".
Gahhhh, would LOVE to visit Scotland! That's also a very solid idea!
@@DavidManningvlog Literally bought a house TODAY, get the keys tomorrow, so if you're ever planning a trip to Scotland, there 2 spare rooms going if needed! (come in Summer, slightly less rain). You've got to do NC500 - Tour of Scotland!
The Go2 is junk. I had nothing nut problems with it. Go for the Mini 11.
How about a side camera for your super duper smart phone that doesn’t allow a micro and card for expandable storage!