HANDS ON REVIEW GoPro Hero 12 - THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY
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15:34 - GP-Log Profile
16:00 - TimeCode Sync
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18:03 - Overheating is Still an Issue
18:31 - Still NO Front Touchscreen
19:24 - Touchscreen Problems When WET
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22:10 - NO MORE GPS
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I've been exclusively using GoPro Hero 5 Black for all my POV shots since 2017. Every time GoPro comes out with a new camera, I try it out, only to find that GoPro Hero 5 Black is still the best GoPro if you need long continuous runtimes and no overheating/freezing issues. IT JUST WORKS.
In addition to no overheating issues, the GoPro Hero 5 Black beat the GoPro 11 in these categories (tested in identical settings):
-Closeup focus (GoPro 11 can't focus as close up as 5)
-Battery life
-Image noise/compression artifacts
-Size
-Price
After I performed this test a few months ago, I put my GoPro 11 away and bought 4 more GoPro 5 Black cameras off facebook marketplace, which should last me enough years until GoPro makes a camera that finally beats the Hero 5 Black.
Wooooow!!! I had no idea about it. 😮
You should test it against the DJI Action 4.
agree i just traded in my 11 and still use my 5 hero black
It's hard to take this company serious after the 9, the 10, the 11 and now the 12 that suffers from the same problem. They all have the same formfactor, actually exactly the same case. The problem seems to be the generated heat inside which is going to make it overheat at some point. That they were facing that problem at the 9, and maybe the 10, that could happen. But then we got the 11 and now the 12 with exactly the same problem... You would have expected that they had adjusted something in the case by now to eliminate this. For example installing more heatsinks to conduct the heat to the outside. They could have used aluminum parts on the outside to achieve this (now heat only gets conducted by the screens).
I had used my Sjcam M10+ for a long while on trips. It was a budget action cam out of 2016 for just €60. And I always used within the protective and completely closed diving case. That camera just kept working and ran for over 1.5 hours until the batteries ran out. Used my Hero11 (a €400 camera out of 2022 to put it in comparison) on the same settings during my trip in Colombia this year. Without case and on the same settings the camera was shutting down within 15min. due to overheating already at some places.
I’m really enjoying the fact that you include family in your videos!
I was trying to sell my GoPro 11 before the release to get the upgrade, but after seeing it in action, I am not disappointed that it didn’t sell. I did get the Snap mount on your recommendation last year though, and that has been a game changer for my channel.
Fidlock magnetic mount is better. Ulanzi also makes a good one.
Love that you're digging SnapMounts! And yeah, if you've got a Hero 11, I can't imagine a reason you would upgrade to the 12 unless you're on a commercial set and GP-Log or Timecode sync are a necessity. The 11 is still super dope!
Definitely love the SNAP mounts as well. I have a gopro 9. Kind of tempted to upgrade for the increased processor speeds but not totally sold.
The 11 has GPS, it's superior to the 12. @@DavidManningvlog
@@ec-uploads I couldn't care less about GPS, and a lot of people are like that. In fact, I prefer privacy with most footage I would take. Location data, location tracking is a big problem right now. GPS was gimmicky for most users. I'll admit it's great for some, but if gps is important, there are many other ways to get that data too. Synced gps data with footage overlay, let's face it the majority aren't looking at it. I guarantee there's a workaround with phones and other external tooling.
Great job on the video David! Thanks for making it.
I loved your review, you touched on many of things I was interested in learning more about on the new Hero 12. Thanks for sharing.
Great comprehensive and honest video! Thanks David :)
Yess was waiting for your in depth review!
Love the airpod Bluetooth capabilities
My last GoPro purchase was the GoPro 8, but I'm looking to upgrade and your post has helped me consider my options. What really caught my attention was the app feature that allows you to see what you're filming - it's definitely my favorite aspect of the camera. Thank you for sharing your insights!
Great review! Got us the snap mount kit!
Finally dawg been waiting
Great review, the one I was waiting for.
I got the Hero 12 as a birthday gift from my family and I love it! My first GoPro. I’m just using it as a daily carry and vlogging camera. Great little tool.
Excellent review and your footage is awesome. AND FINALLY, I can see (monitor) the camera with the cell phone app. YEAH!!!!
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Thank you but everyone will now want to see a show down with the Osmo action 4 look forward to this
So far the most comprehensive and relevant review I have seen. Wish I could give it more than one 👍. A modest update it seems, that’s ok. And you were right…I couldn’t see the HDR difference, but on TH-cam difficult to see slight improvements on anything, AirPods didn’t sound great, I can see how it could work ok sometimes though. I would have added to the bad list the lack of ability to connect an external mic unless you buy the media mod or an external adapter. Not a new thing however.
When I bought my Hero 9 several years ago, I did get the media mod for several reasons, one was the cold shoe for things like wireless mics (have the Hollywood lark 150), of course, the audio connector on the back of the media mod. The built in mics are good for some things and infinitely better than the ones on the actual camera.
While the preview function while recording is missing on the Hero 9, it's not been a deal breaker as I can set the shot up before recording and chances are, it comes out fine when done. Also, there is the front screen that I keep on so it's there to check things when possible/needed.
Having TC sync is nice as I can, if it'll work with 3rd party timecode generators like the Octopus and can jam sync everything, even my Hero 9 with an outboard timecode generator. I have already modded my camera mounts to one type to the Arca Swiss family of mounts, though not from Arca Swiss itself, but ones off of Amazon and I can swap cameras from one tripod to another etc. One thing I may do is get an external audio recorder so if I loose the audio on the camera, I have a backup.
This video single handedly helped me decide to return my new GoPro 11 that I got for my Birthday a week ago. I waited to open it, knowing a 12 was likely imminent! I’m a huge customer of GoPro, but the 11 was sort of a “firmware” update of the 10, and this 12 isn’t doing much to impress, unless you like sparkles!
So I’m personally planning on returning my 11, not buying the 12, and waiting ‘till Black Friday and will likely get another 9 or maybe a 10 depending on those deals. Happy shopping and recording everyone! 👍⚓️
look at the action 4 maybe you would like it
Get a insta360 camera they have everything GoPro doesn’t!
If you have a GoPro subscription I've got a broken Hero 9 I'd part with for dirt cheap and you can exchange it for a new one to GoPro for $99 I believe. Personally for my use I thought the software stability between the 9 and 11 were night and day so I had zero interest in using another 9 so I never replaced it.
So, in conclusion, the Hero 12 is basically a Hero 11 with a firmware upgrade?
Yes, $399 for a software update
Go pro has always been that way they haven’t innovated in years. Always buy insta 360
@@justinclancy9125my insta 360 x3 has a audio video sync issue and I’m on my second unit with the same issue. I would never buy a insta product again. There are many people who use it for actual vlogs and audio and video have a synchronized mismatch of lips and audio
Wrong - it’s a Hero 11 with a firmware update AND shiny blue sparkles. Don‘t forget the sparkles!!! So worth it 😂
@@gommeextra so true!!! and remember the 1/4 inch mount…. true hardware innovation!!!
The release of the Hero 12 has been the best advertising DJI could have wanted for their Osmo Action 4!
I am so glad I did not wait for the 12 to come out and purchased the Dji Action 4. The only reason the GoPro battery is lasting longer is the lack of a GPS system inside. Thanks for the excellent video, I look forward to the next one.
Another plus regarding the bluetooth mic is that you can control the camera remotely by voice now even when the GoPro is out of normal voice range. It's evolution more than revolution, but they're going to need to something considerably more impressive next year.
Luv the snap mount
Really good review, you do a really good job of covering the important aspects without dragging it out too long. The side by sides are always informative, but I slow them down to 1/2 or 1/4 speed to really get a look. I ordered a 12 as I have an 11 (and a 4) and wanted a second cam with all the modern tricks. I may switch to DJI in the future as I have their drone and mics, but not yet on the cams, it's getting tough though.
I'm definitely keen to see some GoPro vs DJI low-light comparisons!
Hi David and thanks for your work. Do you know if max lens mod 2.0 is or will be compatible with Gopro 11 ?
Great informative vid David, think i will stay with my GoPro10 for the next 12 months as it is still awesome enough for what i use it for. Hopefully the 13 is a bigger upgrade for me.
same
Newcomer to the channel - fantastic stuff, and hugely appreciate the depth you dive in. Curious if you have a take (and I'll do a deep dive into your content later on) on using an action cam for vlogging vs. using a mirrorless (I have the Canon R8 which is incredible in just about every instance so far) on a small gimbal. Obviously, there are pros and cons for each (size, depth of field, audio, having to use (or not use) ND filters, etc.), but I've never used an action cam and am debating getting one for b-roll type stuff, but was pondering the idea of using it as the main cam since it's just SO user-friendly to grab and go. Anyway, greatly appreciate you and the content, so thank you!
Thank you for this comprehensive review. There are a few things that I really appreciate. The ability to see the review on your phone is HUGE for me. I think the time code sync would be nice since I almost always shoot two cameras at once and syncing is a pain. Finally they gave us a 1/4-20 mount! When upgraded from Hero7 to Hero11 it was an AMAZING UPGRADE. I don’t see enough here to upgrade to the Hero12 from the Hero11.
Thanks for review. I was wondering if the HDR feature might make indoor shooting a little better between darker areas & windows. do you have any thoughts on that?
Ok already need the dji 4 vs GoPro 12 now
Thanks @Dave. I have the 10 so I’m guessing it’s a bit more worth the upgrade (for 299usd)? 😅 also, I have the snap mount but i saw one of your recent videos about a Ulanzi mount trick/adaption. Which one would you recommend? Cheers and keep on doing great videos !
24:46 in, I'm being honest when I say that made your entire video worth watching all the way through! Especially the fall off the suitcase! I was howling!! 😂
I watched your video on the 11 v Action 4 and jumped over to see your 12 review. Thanks for the great advice. I'm thinking of getting the 12. Currently, I have a 9.
Thanks for the review, David. Could you check if it's possible to shoot 360 video using 2 GoPro 12 with max mod lenses when mounted back to back? Or would that require too much work stitching the files together?
Still #1! I’ve been waiting for these upgrades for years!
How's the low light on it? It would be cool if you can get a video use on cruising grand! 14:26
Good 👍 video, amazing job , what size is the sensor ? It’s not 1 inch
Question: can you still shoot 2.7K 60 with the Max Lens Mod 2.0 attached or are the only options 1080 120 and 4K 60? The GoPro literature is unclear about this. Cheers!
Your GoPro videos are my favorite GoPro videos. Props for taking the time to orchestrate a legit hurricane to be part of your testing 🫨
Thank you for this review :)
I'm using a GoPro8 for my channel.
Do you think I should upgrade to GoPro12 or DJI Action 4?
great video as always, i think to keep my 9 and get the action 4. waiting on action 4 vs GP12 video, thx....
as a photographer looking for their first go pro for documentary footage/vlogging/travel videos/car timelapse/underwater footage etc. would you recommend this model?
Love the hdr feature
Thanks for the review David. I have 4 questions:-
1) Is HDR video mode available in other shooting modes such as Night Lapse video. It would be good if you could expose for the night sky and then say a cityscape below the night sky.
2) Is it true HDR REC2020 video or is it just frame blending?
3) Will the Max Lens Mod 2.0 work on the 9/10/11?
4) Is there 120 FPS for 2.7k on the Max Lens Mod 2.0?
HDR is frame blending, not rec.2020. 120fps is on the MLM 2.0 but in 1080p, currently with a maximum FOV of Max Superview.
@@simonwyndham awesome thanks for confirming that. I had someone tell me it was REC2020 but the live feed I watched with Abe said frame blending.
And 1080P 120FPS is still going to be quite useful. 👍
Not going to lie, I have watched a few other TH-camrs that do camera reviews but you are hands down the best. Maybe a little less production but I think that’s kind of your niche so I don’t hold it against you. Loved this review. Took about 13 or 14 hours to get through it all because life kept taking me away from my iPad. However, I asked you to do a particular video with the step by step on the Insta360 X 3 doing where the viewer gets to pick the view. You sent me a message and I did it and didn’t work. I must be doing something wrong so when you are done all these Hero 12 videos and looking for something to record…I would really appreciate a video on that. As always, appreciate your content and everyone subscribe to this guy and share it to your friends.
Video is nice and informative
Do you think the Bluetooth audio (lack of) quality is from the Airpods? Have you tried other Bluetooth earbuds to test the quality of the sound? Just curious.
Can you add in your testing somehow of how the GoPro does with no battery and external powered. If it over heats and how long until it does.
Per usual, well detailed, great functional info, no bloats, always just what we want to know. Thank you!
Thanks for confirming the live view while recording. A 10 minute GoPro promo video does show it. I had the 8 Black, which I swear had recording live view, but then was taken away. The 8 did still have it up to 1080p30fps, not 60, just to 30. I'm not an action guy, so overheating really was bothersome. But was able to overcome it by taking battery out and using usb, or even having the camera sit on a heat sink actually helped to run until the battery died. But not having live view during recording was extremely annoying. I like not being glued behind a camera, and seeing video on a bigger screen. Thanks again for your hard work!
The only way I could stop my GoPro 10 from overheating and shutting down was remove the battery and connect the Volta accessory to the gopro via the USB connection. The GoPro 10 is virtually useless because of battery overheating unless it is used for short clips
Been waiting for this vid all week! The bluetooth audio is pretty rough... I wonder what that sounds like if you were to run it through something like Adobe Podcast AI. 1/4 20 mount is long overdue, but that's awesome for tripods. Not to mention, a c-stand/grip arm/gopro becomes one of the easiest top down mounting options.
Auto boost is genius. Love it
Timecode question - can you jam sync a GoPro 12 with an external timecode generator via the USB-C slot or is it only via QR Code? Right now only the Tentacle Sync system supports the GoPro QR Code in their Timebar App. All timecode generating systems (Deity, RODE Wireless PRO, Tentacle, etc.) support syncing via direct cable connect to cameras. GoPro support states that the 12 doesn’t support that, but the GoPro Labs software for the 11 seemingly does.
One thing to keep in mind and this will go for most cameras that are small, including mirrorless and DSLR types are the bodies do not allow adequate airflow for the internal components inside, and the big one is the sensor itself and one big issue with the GoPro, and other action cameras are the really small bodies so heat gets trapped and do better with adequate airflow. Marcus P did a test of several of the mirrorless/DSLR cameras and the camcorders, on a hot day, in full sunlight, I forget if HD or not (if HD, over 1080P) but all the smaller mirrorless/DSLR cameras all failed in the desert sun, most crapping out before 30 minutes, some much sooner, but all the camcorders were still recording. This is due to the larger bodies of even the small consumer cheap camcorders were superior to most of the other smaller cameras as far as handling the heat.
I have the H9 and so far have not had overheating issues, but I also shoot in 1080P. Even many phones will overheat after several minutes when shooting 4K. 4K shooting will generate quite a bit more heat in general and do be aware that unless doing action shooting, most of us can get away with shooting much less as much of what you use when editing are seconds, if not frames of a clip anyway, so running your camera say, no more than 5 minutes at a time will give you plenty to choose from.
BT is not a major thing for me as I use a wireless lav with the media mod, and you can likely still get the adapter that plugs into the USB port with the pass through door in place to plug your mic into if you do not get the media mod. I got the media mod for that reason and to attach a small battery light to it, and can run an external power brick with a USB cable if I need to.
I'd be interested in this camera for GP-Log and TC sync. I would hope it can interface with 3rd party devices like the Octopus for jam syncing multiple cameras as needed. Having the preview still be functional while recording is nice, but not a deal breaker with my H9 as I can set up the shot with the phone, then hit record anyway.
Overall, a good review of a really new camera. BTW, I personally don't do action video, but may be outside doing yard work, taking the camera to the beach or mountains etc and have found that what you use for media cards will make or break your success with the GoPro and Samsung SD cards seem to be liked better with my GoPro than Sandisk, of which came with my camera when I bought it new.
Great video David!
I actually like the quick capture on/off because of how I use the camera (for mountain biking). There are times on my rides where I don't need it running and to save battery it's nice that it's only powering up to record and then just shutting off. I don't want to have to worry if I powered down the camera after I stopped recording.
LOVE they upgraded the Max Lens Mod to now shoot in 4k and it can be used with other modes. Probably the main reason I ended up getting it.
Also loved the bluetooth audio connectivity feature but agree, using your air pods or any small wireless headphones will not sound good because the microphones in those units are only built for phone use, not audio recording. So it's really not a downside of the camera, but more so the poor quality of the mics inside those wireless headphones. Just a pro-tip! 😉
Now if only I can connect my DJI Mics to the GoPro via bluetooth, that would be a game changer!
Great endings!!! Lol 😂😂😂 nice review! Love the good bad n ugly sections!
David my only question to you is will it work. I dont trust. And please compare with action 4. I am thinking of action 4
That’s was cool that you went to Cabo, I’m from Baja my self, but live in US.
Does the Max Lens Mod 2.0 work with 8:7? 👀
When you do the Hero 12 vs Action 4 comparison, can you compare file size at 4K 60FPS? My DJI cameras produce much larger files, almost twice as big, when the quality is comparable. How much footage can you put on a 64GB memory card with each camera?
Great video review of the new GoPro 12. After watching it, I decided to keep my GoPro 9 though, and don't upgrade at this time. Actually, I am more motivated to buy the DJI Action 4 now, since it looks like it's an actual improvement compared to GoPro cameras. Did you already do a comparaison between the action 4 and GoPro 12 by chance ?... If not, that's something I am sure lot of people would love to see as well.
Thanks for the video. I returned the Hero 11 because it overheated on a 90 degree day in 15 minutes. I am undecided right now and am looking at the Osmo Action 3,4 and Gopro Hero 12.
Hi there You can use that app on your gopro ten And it works as well Because i'm thinking about getting the gopro12
have you tried a decent bluetooth mike or transmitter. Are airpods the limit or the gopro?
Can you test if the max mod 2.0 works on older cameras?
Good Vid. For sure want to see head to head with osmo 4, is there a osmo 5 coming this fall BTW? battery life in cold conditions is top of my list and remote control operations stability from each app is key. Thanks
No, the Osmo Action 4 just came out weeks ago.
Is the BT audio quality on the GoPro side, or on the mic side? If you hooked up a Rode or DJI lav mic, does quality increase?
Thanks for the - as always - lots of good information.
The #1 most important thing for me: stabilizer when recording while I'm running.
The most important thing #2: recording in low light and at night.
I now have to decide whether to buy the GoPro 12 or DJI 4.
A comparison video GoPro 12 vs DJI 4 would be helpful for me.
Will you do a comparison video GoPro 12 vs DJI 4 ?
Best regards
Did you get the stock audio mic even though the GoPro is connected to your AirPods? It's like having two audio tracks in one video
I really loved the review! I have a GP11 and max ill not upgrade this year. I will get the osmo action 4 this year instead. Im waiting on the max 2 !!!
Seems like the GP12 is more of a software upgrade and not so much of a hardware upgrade. If that’s mostly true, then they are charging $399 for a software update? I just feel like there should have been more hardware innovation in the GP12. Still a good camera but I’m happy with my Action 4 camera. I hope both companies push each other to innovate more
same feelings. Kind of prefer action4 right now. The magnetic system and batter life without overheating. The lowlights capability and under water color are just amazing!
Will the preview while recording be available for older cameras or is this for the 12 only?
David, are you aware of any video editing software that is free that can output native 5.3K? Free software seem to only do 4K.
Hey!
Would it be possible to show the difference between superview and hyper view with and without the max 2.0 lens?
Think it will be perfect for helmet placed fpv skiing.
I guess it is the widest filed of view before getting a 360 cam.
Have been waiting for a GoPro max (360) camera, but with only one lens, and this might be that?
Not many people have compared the still photo quality of the Action 4 at 12 MP vs the GoPro 11 or 12. Care to take this on? Thanks. Im doing a bunch of travel and don't want to carry an extra 30 pounds of gear. Thanks again
Does the Bluetooth audio improve with different Bluetooth headphones? A few of my colleagues use their AirPods in zoom/teams meetings and they don’t sound great! Other headphones/headsets do though!
Do you have a channel where we can watch your action camera footage, your surfing videos and other action sports
David is dashing. ❤️😍
Nice video 9:45 and thank you for this. I have never seen this before
Maybe this is an odd question, but in your autoboost section, why is there some weird artifacting going on along your right arm, is that something from the GoPro or from some kind of editing afterwards?
I have a GoPro hero 10 black and I’m wondering if you would recommend the DJI action 4 or new GoPro hero 12 for an additional camera. My hero 10 keeps freezing up on me and it’s really irritating missing terrific shots. I am based in Florida maybe it’s just the heat?
Any improvement in the quality of shooting in the dark?
TimeCode Synch - is that a unique GoPro feature? or is there any chance that it can be used when filming something with a set of other cameras, for example Canon R7 + 6DII + 80D? or even sets with different brands of cameras, for example a Canon cam + a Sony cam + a Panasonic cam?
Do you have a link for the aftermarket legs with the threaded 1/4 20 that'd be great on my 360 max
amazing vids!!!!!
if you were to consider the hero 12 vs the action 4 JUST for timelapses while on vacation, which would you pick? The bigger sensor on the Action 4 seems like it might be helpful but the higher MP sensor on the hero 12 might result in better images. So torn.
did you try another set of buds, or did you only use the apple product?
Hi David, I have one question for you. I have peak design tripod for my nikon zfc camera. And I want add gopro for on one leg. Exists something for that or just gorillapod? Thanks for answer 🙂
Do you habe other bluetooth ear buds you can test the audio on? The air buds definitely sounded poor but atleast its an option.
Question about Bitrate, should you use higher bitrate for higher resolutions (4k)? Do you lose information if you use the same bitrate with 1080p to 4k?
any idea if it works with the instamic? that would be a perfect pairing.
bluetooth audio sounds bad, which is a bummer, that was one of the reasons i pre-ordered... the other was the wider FOV on the max lens mod...
not looking great for GoPro at the moment
i wonder if they took out gps for the heating improvement, would make sense
haha or an excuse for them to upsell the remote too
Just curious, what kind of GPS stuff can you do with the GPS enabled models??
David, if you do an overheating video could you include a battery-less test? I'm still at Hero8 and will run them without a battery when I'm recording bike rides. This way I don't have to stop and swap batteries or fiddle with it at all until the end. I just got an Insta360 X3 and will do the same thing as that sucker gets hot.
Also, with the wet screen not responsive, could you experiment with using something like Rain-X to make the screen hydrophobic or dish soap to make it hydrophilic? Also, spitting on it or using something like Frog Spit that swimmers use in their goggles. I don't use mine in the water, but it might help other folks.
As always, I look forward to your reviews. By the way, just received a couple of those 4way adapters for my GoPros. They're working fantastic! Thanks for the suggestion.
Quick question. Have you tested the camera with dji/boyalink/ulanzi wireless audio
Given that gopro have now reduced the prices of the hero 10 and 11, what would be your pick value wise for the cameras between gopro and dji? I'm in Australia and the hero 12 is $649, the 11 is now $579 and the 10 is now $429. The Action 4 is $629 and action 3 is $519. I'm looking at getting a camera to do basic recording on a motorcycle and bicycle and maybe some motovlogging (so would need a microphone connection as well). What would do the best job for the money? Obviously i would need a media mod for a gopro which increases the price somewhat (although i had thought about trying to record seperate audio with a mic hooked into my phone - I'm going to test that this weekend). I don't know how much a microphone adaptor for the Action 3 and 4 is.
I'm currently tossing up between the hero 10 and action 3. Is the 10 still worth looking at given how cheap it is or should i drop it from my options and decide between the Action 3 and the hero 11, which would put the Action 3 in prime position, given that recording audio on it will still put it at less than the hero 11?
Live View on the app while recording! Yeeewww! Awesome!
Great review. The best 'voice' in reviewing tech overall! Hah!
Are the HDR videos Rec2020? Do they play as HDR on TH-cam?
does this camera overheat as quickly as the previous model?
When is the settings video coming out I hate messing with settings just tell me what to do lol
Hahhaa! Soon!