Growing up I loved the Fox and the Hound and I still love it as an adult. It was one of the first movies I had seen that dealt with a morally grey nature v.s. nurture theme and bittersweet ending. it made me think a lot as a kid. I enjoyed this video and this analysis a lot. It helped me appreciate Amos Slade as a character and the movie as a whole even more. Also you nailed the Disney style in your avatar! I can vividly seen them in a Disney movie!
Thank you! Disney was one of my biggest inspirations growing up, and I wanted to work for them as an animator someday. Unfortunately by the time I was old enough to actually maybe go to animation school, the great ENDING had already come and the animation industry within Disney and the larger companies, at least for 2D, was *dead* - and I can't do 3D. I've tried, I just can't.
I have to disagree, with 17:13 firstly because animals have no concept of crime and punishment so punishing Todd would be at best ineffective. That being said setting up boundaries with your pets is key to keeping them and you out of trouble I do agree with that. Also nothing for nothing but one dinky little rope tied to a barrel isn't stopping a determined large dog from running off. It's better than nothing sure but I wouldn't call that secure either especially since Chief and Copper were also able to escape not once but twice. I have to say taking revenge on an animal doesn't really make sense to me. I get where your coming from and yeah I'd be upset but not at the creature who can only follow their instincts, I'd feel more inclined to take revenge on the owner or at least ask for financial compensation from them. Taking revenge on a wild animal accomplishes nothing, Chief would still have a broken leg and killing Todd wouldn't change that. I'd honestly just be grateful that my dog was still alive and let it go. And on the topic of the traps...Yeah no, Amos was definitely still wrong for that. Firstly because there's no guarantee that the traps would catch Todd specifically. Who's to say a completely different animal wouldn't spring the trap? Like say a mother animal dies in a trap leaving her offspring orphans? It's a completely senseless waste of life. Also are we just gonna brush over the fact that Amos almost started a goddamn forest fire trying to get one fox?!?! Hundreds of innocent animals could've been homeless or dead because some guy's dog got a broken leg, how is that fair? Now this isn't to say I don't see were Slade is coming from. Almost losing a pet is devastating however it feels disingenuous to say he was completely in the right and "did nothing wrong". What makes The Fox and the Hound special is that there are no heroes or villains in the traditional sense. No one here is completely right and no one is completely wrong and overlooking Amos' flaws to paint him as the good guy kinda robs the movie of its complexity. Still I appreciate your insight. The Fox and the Hound was my childhood and it's always a treat to hear people talk about it, especially since it seems like another one of Disney's forgotten flicks.
I heard there was talk of doing a live action one, which I honestly hope they don't. I'm SO TIRED of the "live action" remakes, there are so many new stories to tell!
@@moonstruck8245 Amen sister. I'm so sick of all these creatively bankrupt retreads on old material that really doesn't need to be "fixed" or whatever the f*ck Disney thinks their doing to their classic material with these pointless live action remakes. I'm literally on my hands and knees begging them to do something original and actually put effort into it.
@@prixe12 Disney doesn't make movies to tell a story they want to tell in their own unique way the way they did back when Walt was at the helm. Now they just make content - advertiser friendly, as bland as possible to appeal to the widest audience without offending anyone *content*. They depend on nostalgia bringing people into the theatres now, and the few original stories they have had have been so watered down and had so much executive meddling they're basically unwatchable and miserable with entirely botched 'lessons', like the 'trust absolutely everyone always, even the ones who have quite literally stabbed you in the back, destroyed the world, murdered your dad and has been hunting you down like a dog for most of your life!' Raya.
This is a pretty great argument. Amos really went off the deep end where Todd was concerned. If he really wanted any form of justice for Chief, in a morally sound way, he would've taken legal action against Todd's owner & left it at that. In the movie though, he really only backed off after Todd saved Copper (& Amos) from that bear. Amos literally almost got both his dogs & himself killed by letting his anger take complete control. Which is something that Todd's owner pointed out in the movie, before she even released Todd. Edit: I'm not completely siding with Todd's owner here, this video does bring up some great points as to why she's a bad pet owner. But I'm not under the belief that Amos "did nothing wrong."
Growing up I loved the Fox and the Hound and I still love it as an adult. It was one of the first movies I had seen that dealt with a morally grey nature v.s. nurture theme and bittersweet ending. it made me think a lot as a kid. I enjoyed this video and this analysis a lot. It helped me appreciate Amos Slade as a character and the movie as a whole even more. Also you nailed the Disney style in your avatar! I can vividly seen them in a Disney movie!
Thank you! Disney was one of my biggest inspirations growing up, and I wanted to work for them as an animator someday. Unfortunately by the time I was old enough to actually maybe go to animation school, the great ENDING had already come and the animation industry within Disney and the larger companies, at least for 2D, was *dead* - and I can't do 3D. I've tried, I just can't.
I have to disagree, with 17:13 firstly because animals have no concept of crime and punishment so punishing Todd would be at best ineffective. That being said setting up boundaries with your pets is key to keeping them and you out of trouble I do agree with that.
Also nothing for nothing but one dinky little rope tied to a barrel isn't stopping a determined large dog from running off. It's better than nothing sure but I wouldn't call that secure either especially since Chief and Copper were also able to escape not once but twice.
I have to say taking revenge on an animal doesn't really make sense to me. I get where your coming from and yeah I'd be upset but not at the creature who can only follow their instincts, I'd feel more inclined to take revenge on the owner or at least ask for financial compensation from them. Taking revenge on a wild animal accomplishes nothing, Chief would still have a broken leg and killing Todd wouldn't change that. I'd honestly just be grateful that my dog was still alive and let it go.
And on the topic of the traps...Yeah no, Amos was definitely still wrong for that. Firstly because there's no guarantee that the traps would catch Todd specifically. Who's to say a completely different animal wouldn't spring the trap? Like say a mother animal dies in a trap leaving her offspring orphans? It's a completely senseless waste of life.
Also are we just gonna brush over the fact that Amos almost started a goddamn forest fire trying to get one fox?!?! Hundreds of innocent animals could've been homeless or dead because some guy's dog got a broken leg, how is that fair?
Now this isn't to say I don't see were Slade is coming from. Almost losing a pet is devastating however it feels disingenuous to say he was completely in the right and "did nothing wrong".
What makes The Fox and the Hound special is that there are no heroes or villains in the traditional sense. No one here is completely right and no one is completely wrong and overlooking Amos' flaws to paint him as the good guy kinda robs the movie of its complexity.
Still I appreciate your insight. The Fox and the Hound was my childhood and it's always a treat to hear people talk about it, especially since it seems like another one of Disney's forgotten flicks.
I heard there was talk of doing a live action one, which I honestly hope they don't. I'm SO TIRED of the "live action" remakes, there are so many new stories to tell!
@@moonstruck8245 Amen sister. I'm so sick of all these creatively bankrupt retreads on old material that really doesn't need to be "fixed" or whatever the f*ck Disney thinks their doing to their classic material with these pointless live action remakes.
I'm literally on my hands and knees begging them to do something original and actually put effort into it.
@@prixe12 Disney doesn't make movies to tell a story they want to tell in their own unique way the way they did back when Walt was at the helm. Now they just make content - advertiser friendly, as bland as possible to appeal to the widest audience without offending anyone *content*.
They depend on nostalgia bringing people into the theatres now, and the few original stories they have had have been so watered down and had so much executive meddling they're basically unwatchable and miserable with entirely botched 'lessons', like the 'trust absolutely everyone always, even the ones who have quite literally stabbed you in the back, destroyed the world, murdered your dad and has been hunting you down like a dog for most of your life!' Raya.
This is a pretty great argument. Amos really went off the deep end where Todd was concerned. If he really wanted any form of justice for Chief, in a morally sound way, he would've taken legal action against Todd's owner & left it at that. In the movie though, he really only backed off after Todd saved Copper (& Amos) from that bear. Amos literally almost got both his dogs & himself killed by letting his anger take complete control. Which is something that Todd's owner pointed out in the movie, before she even released Todd.
Edit: I'm not completely siding with Todd's owner here, this video does bring up some great points as to why she's a bad pet owner. But I'm not under the belief that Amos "did nothing wrong."