yeah, it might not be S-tier, but it's definitely A or B. I tried Wezterm but went back to Konsole because Wezterm has something weird going with clipboard.
I ran st for many years and it was amazing. But without Wayland support and stubborn developers (read up on why emojis does not work etc) it's a bit obsolete. Still, it used to be S tier and should still be in A or B..
I had to go through the patching process multiple times and I still didn't get it to a place where I liked it. I guess you can use flexipatch nowadays but in general it's kinda difficult to setup st, especially for people who haven't used git.
st and urxvt are the best terminal emulators I've tried, hands down. fast and simple programs. the process of "setting up" st is just installing the scrollback patch and then you're set. I went with the alpha patch as well just so I could make the background color a bit transparent. you don't even really need to patch suckless programs to make them good, the average viewer of this channel simply has no eye for what makes a good program. dwm with st and dmenu gives you a great linux environment out of the box, and I bet more people would appreciate linux if they gave that kind of setup a try without patching and ricing everything to the extreme. X11 applications are far from obsolete. X11 is still the standard for linux desktops and will not cease to be anytime soon. The entire process of switching to wayland is an unattractive one for most X11 users since you're required to change your entire environment which is why many will stay on X11. The benefits of switching are not at all obvious to the user and you kind of end up where you started, just with worse software support than you had before.
It is wild to put st in F. For me the best feature of any app is having a simple/minimal base that is easy to extend. I am not even saying it should be S or A but putting it in F shows incompatibility of my taste/preferences with the "chat"
And warp is definitely F for me. So you rated st as F not knowing anything about it based on chat votes, but you have not listened to them for that one...
I agree. Or even made an actual voting system so that results could be quantified. The focus on terminals is interesting but this content is just lazy. You couldn't be bothered to try out the ones you didn't know anything about just for a bit??
Hard configured Wezterm so much it just have the keybindings/movements for everything that might require to use TMUX.....even wezterm has inbuilt plugin managers .....im using wezterm-session-manager .....which helps me with the session ......Not great experience but it gets the job done .........I love Rusty product.....Loving Wezterm ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Like many others, I was using Kitty for years, but gave WezTerm a try ~6 months ago and never looked back. It has all the features I liked about Kitty, but a much cleaner config with Lua that makes it perfect choice for nvim users. I have been following ghostty progress for a while, so look forward to trying it (I also love Zig), but for now I am definitely a believer in WezTerm.
foot is the has the most featured with least amount of ram required, I like to have multiple terminals opened at the same time (cmus, btop, newsboat, lf) and with the daemon/client feature, one foot (around 40 Mb in ram) hold all the process, and lightweight clients are served to show them, think tmux sessions but each is a full window on it's own
Powershell indeed sucks but Windows Terminal itself is pretty great recently. It recently got a new engine with many features like allows images to be displayed within the terminal. It's not a terminal that should be underestimated because of Windows or PowerShell.
People are way too negative when it comes to ranking nowadays. Like, why are perfectly good terminals in the lowest tiers Just because they don't "wow" chat? I would think the lower tiers would be reserved for actually bad terminals.
Instead of rating the people behind the terminal or the company or the potential, how about rating the terminals themselves ? You dont have time to install and test them? Sorry but as a youtuber is that not what you have time for? I cant tell if you are trolling to get interaction but this was a little hard to watch. *well played* would love to have seen a mem use comparison in normal use. wezterm, foot and alacritty have big differences in system resource usage.
bro… you EXPOSED yourself and your CHAT as fodder noobs by giving st F tier. it’s the chad suckless terminal. the st literally stands for S TIER. git gud noob. 💪😏
Gnome (Terminal) - UX/UI for tablets should not be used on desktops and laptops with keyboard and mouse. D tier. Warp - THIS IS PAID KEYLOGGER. Donating with logo placement is called advertisement. Online accout required to connect to your intranet ssh devices... What's wrong with you? Wezterm - black screen on wayland. Weird behaviour on pasting text with new lines. B tier. Kitty - ULTRA TOXIC DEVELOPER. Do not report issues if you are not ready to be insulted. Python is not fast. D tier. Alacritty - hang on paste from vim. Issue 9 month without attention Ghostty - closed source. closed beta... I can bet it will be paid. F tier
This video feels a bit lazy. I would actually love sole insight or at least table of features to campare them. Perhaps some good some bad atributes. Not just chat kinda randomly sayng aaa yea that one is D for no reason. Othervise i like your content.
Foot is insanely speedy. Nothing compares. I found wezterm to be slow, kitty to be slow. Like i start typing before terminal appears on the screen and that's bad. Only thing lacking is font ligatures. But i can live with that.
This is kind of a niche use case/feature, but it's worth mentioning that terminals built with libvte (xfce4-terminal, gnome terminal, terminator, probably a few others) have their own font-independent rendering system for the box drawing/geometric shapes/legacy computing unicode characters so that they always fit perfectly without any gaps, which only really matters if you do text mode art, but it's a big deal if you do text mode art.
Lol people saying eww to st and rating it an F, and saying meh to foot and rating it a C. With st it's minimal and good for tiling window managers using st-flexipatch you can even use sixel graphics. With foot terminal it's the only good terminal that is still minimal and supports sixel by default. If nobody knows what that is, you can list and display images in the terminal itself no need for extra installation or configs. You can even use lsix and it will list all images and print them directly. If nobody appreciates that then I guess there is no hope for humanity.
st in F is a violation oh my goodness its basically a terminal that you build on yourself, ontop of dwm, which you build onto yourself, ontop of so on and so on, it's what you make it, and it's amazing
One problem with all this is that people rate things based on contextual stuff. GNOME terminal and Windows Terminal (which is open source by the way) are examples. People just don't like Windows or the GNOME desktop, but that should not be a valid reason to rate individual things. Another problem is that serious rating should always be done on individual aspects of things, such as performance or the number of features.
While the intent of this video is interesting, it completely falls apart in execution. Many terminals were disregarded simply by saying they don't have any wowing features without ever listing what those are. Even going as far as reading a summary made by AI without checking facts. On the other hand, many terminals were put at the forefront by saying they're great and have many great features, but again which features? Some features were mentioned, like: - Integrated AI assistant - Ligature support - Image rendering - Infinite scrolling - Performance - Panes - Hyperlink support - Special events support (like mouse clicks) But basically none of those were discussed, much less demonstrated. For example, why is it so important for a terminal to be able to render images? What does it mean for a terminal to be performant? And so on and so forth. Anyway. While the video is indeed entertaining thanks to your character, its content is worthless. I rank it F in my tier list.
Number 1 feature every terminal MUST have for me is to support dropdown style like Guake/Yakuake, where I can bind Ctrl+` key to bring it up from anywhere. I can't live without that lol
This is great except for the Warp terminal. No matter how fancy it is, it shouldn't be in A. I am not sure about an F but definitely not A. Reasons: Requires login to even work, Closed source and ofcourse telemetry. Also you should check out Wave terminal.
That's true, but he was deciding based on the features it has And it was a little biased, because warp donates to foss projects, which makes them more respectable
@@no_name4796 I believe he was quite biased on this one(which he has all the right to be) and decided to brush aside the major flaws of the Warp terminal. He did try to justify this by saying things which shouldn't have affected the objective value of Warp terminal. Why does it matter if Warp supports open source or not when we are discussing the value of the terminal. As for the respect part, Microsoft also supports several open source products but that doesn't make them any more respectful. We should judge a product for what it is and Warp in my personal opinion is not a A-tier terminal. Forget all its other flaws. NO terminal should ever need to be required to be logged in to just get to the interface and use it. Period.
To me the top one is foot terminal. Really good client server architecture. Super light on resources. Ability to set title and class. Really fast. It has everything.
I have to say, configuring st might be the hardest and it ig deserved low ranking but not last! Ik it's a personal preference. Anyway I use st for everyday use since I have a potato pc I have save up my resources for my browser and lsp. St did a great job at that. In my env st uses only 20mb ram. It also supports ALL THE FEATURES (all that i know of and use) of any terminal with least resource usage. But I can assure if I had a better device I'd have used kitty anyday and everyday (kitty isn't supported in my current device). Also Warp deserves a C.
Windows Terminal is actually fantastic. I main pop_os, but when I have to use windows for work, I actually really enjoy it and kind of wish it was available for Linux.
Personally I use the windows terminal because it lets you change the background image to a .GIF (most terminals don't support .GIF) or even your desktop wallpaper + UI looks cool + color themes are super easy to add
This tier list is actually dog water Giving S tier without trying them is insane Give d or something low to xfce terminal bcs some KDE gnome zoomers tells it is insane too
Patching and recompiling for st really isn't that difficult once you do it a couple of times. It really is great once you get it configured just right.
@@sensei6988 Requires login and has extensive telemetry. I think it's risky for a terminal to have all of this, imagine leaving root passwords, SSH keys, etc. exposed, I wouldn't trust it.
i think he means that because it’s AI powered, it’s essentially sending lots of your data to the cloud. whether it’s secure or not is a bit difficult to prove, although it is open source. in any case shell commands includes more information that you should be comfortable giving away
@@loo_9 Warp is not open source. Better to use something like shell_gpt, which you can add to any terminal and use any AI source, including self-hosted ones.
As a user of more than a year now, placing foot on C tier severely hurts, as it's literally everything I want from a terminal but in awesome C instead of, uhm, Rust.
same. I think the primary use case is what he’s using it for. just viewing what images are what, without relying on another program or relying of file names
I really loved wezterm but for whatever reason, for me, it had crazy issues with eating my inputs and random slow downs. Maybe it was an nvidia hardware thing or something. I've been pretty happy with foot ever since I switched though, feels much more lightweight.
I doubt that it's an Nvidia thing. I've used it on AMD (GPU and CPU), Intel (integrated graphics and CPU, AMD GPU and Intel CPU), M1 Mac. This on Windows, Linux and MacOS. I want to like it, but it never runs as smooth as other options do. Maybe I'll give it another shot tomorrow... I have an Nvidia GPU now. 😅
@@herrpez My thinking was that it probably had something to do with it being a hardware accelerated terminal, which I don't think many of the others are, but I could be wrong.
@@deathcare Alacritty is hardware accelerated too, and that runs like a dream on my work laptop, which is considerably less powerful than my home computer. That being said, Wezterm seems to be a little bit faster than before. My main gripe has always been how slow it's been to spawn new windows/tabs. It's still not as quick as my main terminal emulator, but it's at least not painful anymore. 😄 Will have to check it out at work as well, but it's a little bit harder to justify messing around with terminal emulators for the fun of it in that setting.
Dude. Thats so backwards. Its a terminal, of course it has to have the basics, cannot be like xterm, but the main criteria is? How fast it is. It gotta be fast, between AI BS and speed, i take speed all day. Dont care if can render whatever, i want something that is the fastest launching application in my computer and runs on KB of RAM.
Alacritty is missing lots of things. You can't even copy and paste commands from one window to the other (on MacOS) - you still need to type Enter. Horrifying. Also, it tends to select crappy stuff with the mouse, mostly simple to much .. and it's configuration is a sheer horror!
Windows person here. I switched from Windows terminal terminal to... Windows terminal preview. The preview has a bit of new features the other one lacks. Still mid. Could be way better.
Foot terminal server mode is impressive. You run it as a server, allowing it to handle all clients, so opening clients is nearly instantaneous. There's no need to spawn another instance since it's already running in the background as a service.
A terminal doesn't have to Wow me. It needs to function well and should have certain settings I might need. GNOME Terminal is that. That is my tool in this category as long as it exists.
I have compared Alacritty and Kitty among different PC/Linux laptops & desktops & macbooks (intel and Mx) and I find Alacritty faster than Kitty, most of the time, being its own separate process, single tab, no multitab support makes it better for me. However it doesn't support images, I would put Konsole on B+, same as Alacritty.
While the fancier icons are cool, is a beginner going to understand that that's the icon for the terminal emulator? The icon should tell you what the program is.
Not a SINGLE mention that warp is actually closed source and needs an account to simply open.
F tier
Hey now, if you look up a terminal emulator and see it has enterprise pricing option, you know it's quality.
He wants to be sponsored.
look up wave terminal, its like warp but actually good
paid video
You throwing terminals in S tier without trying them is actually criminal.
any terminal that has telemetry should not land in the A tier....
That only makes it better
Not including Konsole is insane.
I actually forgot about konsole completely. C tier
Ya I started with kde and after trying others I am so used to konsol I couldn't switch.
Yup. It has basically all features and it's included in kde.
It's not S tier, but it's at least B or even A tier in my opinion
@@no_name4796 ya I think a tier once you add zsh it does everything I need it to.
yeah, it might not be S-tier, but it's definitely A or B. I tried Wezterm but went back to Konsole because Wezterm has something weird going with clipboard.
Bro has a parasocial relationship with his viewers instead of the other way around
I crave friendship
@@typecraft_devholler friend
Any Electron program is automatic F tier... Use the memory you commit, give the rest back... it's not that hard...
Exactly.
I respect you a lot, this video is low effort, plainly.
St, in a way, is your own custom terminal. I would argue that this makes it S tier if you're willing to set it up.
I ran st for many years and it was amazing. But without Wayland support and stubborn developers (read up on why emojis does not work etc) it's a bit obsolete. Still, it used to be S tier and should still be in A or B..
yes and linux from scratch is an S-tier 'distro' if you're willing to set it up
@@sub-harmonik correct.
I had to go through the patching process multiple times and I still didn't get it to a place where I liked it. I guess you can use flexipatch nowadays but in general it's kinda difficult to setup st, especially for people who haven't used git.
st and urxvt are the best terminal emulators I've tried, hands down. fast and simple programs. the process of "setting up" st is just installing the scrollback patch and then you're set. I went with the alpha patch as well just so I could make the background color a bit transparent. you don't even really need to patch suckless programs to make them good, the average viewer of this channel simply has no eye for what makes a good program. dwm with st and dmenu gives you a great linux environment out of the box, and I bet more people would appreciate linux if they gave that kind of setup a try without patching and ricing everything to the extreme.
X11 applications are far from obsolete. X11 is still the standard for linux desktops and will not cease to be anytime soon. The entire process of switching to wayland is an unattractive one for most X11 users since you're required to change your entire environment which is why many will stay on X11. The benefits of switching are not at all obvious to the user and you kind of end up where you started, just with worse software support than you had before.
It is wild to put st in F. For me the best feature of any app is having a simple/minimal base that is easy to extend. I am not even saying it should be S or A but putting it in F shows incompatibility of my taste/preferences with the "chat"
And warp is definitely F for me. So you rated st as F not knowing anything about it based on chat votes, but you have not listened to them for that one...
FR
the video idea would've worked better if you actually tried all terminals instead of asking chat and reading wikipedia
I agree. Or even made an actual voting system so that results could be quantified. The focus on terminals is interesting but this content is just lazy. You couldn't be bothered to try out the ones you didn't know anything about just for a bit??
Foot is criminally underrated. Faster than Alacritty with native image support. (No ligatures but I personally avoid them anyways).
people really like it!
And the foot config is dead simple. I think it's the default in sway, so you know it's clean.
@@typecraft_dev foot is sss tier for me
Foot and ghostty are easily the best two
+ nice Tmux integration
Wezterm's config is lua and it has hot reloading, it's tokyo drifting fast
Agreed. GPU accelerated, written in Rust, ligature support, so nice.
wezterm for me, definitely
Hard configured Wezterm so much it just have the keybindings/movements for everything that might require to use TMUX.....even wezterm has inbuilt plugin managers .....im using wezterm-session-manager .....which helps me with the session ......Not great experience but it gets the job done .........I love Rusty product.....Loving Wezterm ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Westerm is actually slow for old age laptops but anyway Westerm is great
Like many others, I was using Kitty for years, but gave WezTerm a try ~6 months ago and never looked back. It has all the features I liked about Kitty, but a much cleaner config with Lua that makes it perfect choice for nvim users. I have been following ghostty progress for a while, so look forward to trying it (I also love Zig), but for now I am definitely a believer in WezTerm.
foot is the has the most featured with least amount of ram required, I like to have multiple terminals opened at the same time (cmus, btop, newsboat, lf) and with the daemon/client feature, one foot (around 40 Mb in ram) hold all the process, and lightweight clients are served to show them, think tmux sessions but each is a full window on it's own
Powershell indeed sucks but Windows Terminal itself is pretty great recently.
It recently got a new engine with many features like allows images to be displayed within the terminal.
It's not a terminal that should be underestimated because of Windows or PowerShell.
Exactly, Ive used it and its S tier for sure. ITerm should also be S or A... idk what is this logic of open source good softwares being so low
People are way too negative when it comes to ranking nowadays. Like, why are perfectly good terminals in the lowest tiers Just because they don't "wow" chat? I would think the lower tiers would be reserved for actually bad terminals.
alacritty isn't supposed to support images, it's supposed to be a simple and non-bloated terminal emulator
Instead of rating the people behind the terminal or the company or the potential, how about rating the terminals themselves ? You dont have time to install and test them? Sorry but as a youtuber is that not what you have time for? I cant tell if you are trolling to get interaction but this was a little hard to watch. *well played* would love to have seen a mem use comparison in normal use. wezterm, foot and alacritty have big differences in system resource usage.
bro… you EXPOSED yourself and your CHAT as fodder noobs by giving st F tier. it’s the chad suckless terminal. the st literally stands for S TIER. git gud noob. 💪😏
shit, I'm a fraud
Wheres CRT(cool-retro-term)? my fav terminal D':
Gnome (Terminal) - UX/UI for tablets should not be used on desktops and laptops with keyboard and mouse. D tier.
Warp - THIS IS PAID KEYLOGGER. Donating with logo placement is called advertisement. Online accout required to connect to your intranet ssh devices... What's wrong with you?
Wezterm - black screen on wayland. Weird behaviour on pasting text with new lines. B tier.
Kitty - ULTRA TOXIC DEVELOPER. Do not report issues if you are not ready to be insulted. Python is not fast. D tier.
Alacritty - hang on paste from vim. Issue 9 month without attention
Ghostty - closed source. closed beta... I can bet it will be paid. F tier
The review we needed.
how's foot?
@@reescas I'm using foot+zsh+tmux on sway devuan, no complains
kitty also has some hidden phone home "features" that are opt out. and as you mentioned, the dev berates anyone who dares to mention it
@@rerereuj wasn't the dev also not wanting to flatpak it, to me that screams its doing shady background shit
I use Konsole BTW.
Yup. Great terminal!
A tier in my opinion
Based. Coming from a wezterm enjoyer
Foot is great. I tried different terminals, including Kitty and Alacritty, and I found that Foot feels faster and snappier than all of them
that's cause it is faster. alacritty is a bunch of marketing bull crap and hype. foot is *actually* fast.
it's definitely really smooth and probably better than alacritty if you just have wayland
This video feels a bit lazy. I would actually love sole insight or at least table of features to campare them. Perhaps some good some bad atributes.
Not just chat kinda randomly sayng aaa yea that one is D for no reason. Othervise i like your content.
Yeah I get it. Will follow up with more in depth stuff
WARP: FFF
What I learned from this is your chat is regarded
t*?
restarted*
Foot is insanely speedy. Nothing compares. I found wezterm to be slow, kitty to be slow. Like i start typing before terminal appears on the screen and that's bad.
Only thing lacking is font ligatures. But i can live with that.
This is kind of a niche use case/feature, but it's worth mentioning that terminals built with libvte (xfce4-terminal, gnome terminal, terminator, probably a few others) have their own font-independent rendering system for the box drawing/geometric shapes/legacy computing unicode characters so that they always fit perfectly without any gaps, which only really matters if you do text mode art, but it's a big deal if you do text mode art.
Foot is really really good. I use it as a daily driver , deserves S tier
Should put on “include paid promotions” of you are gonna ride warp that much
F is for telemetry and this message is sponsored by warp
Lol people saying eww to st and rating it an F, and saying meh to foot and rating it a C. With st it's minimal and good for tiling window managers using st-flexipatch you can even use sixel graphics. With foot terminal it's the only good terminal that is still minimal and supports sixel by default. If nobody knows what that is, you can list and display images in the terminal itself no need for extra installation or configs. You can even use lsix and it will list all images and print them directly. If nobody appreciates that then I guess there is no hope for humanity.
can't expect much from hyprland users
@@bhavyakukkar Bruh you got me with a stray bullet. I use i3wm and hyprland side by side with foot and st.
@@groff8657 hehe. st and foot make up for the snobbery of using hyprland though
st in F is a violation oh my goodness
its basically a terminal that you build on yourself, ontop of dwm, which you build onto yourself, ontop of so on and so on, it's what you make it, and it's amazing
i really want Ghostty
iterm is B while warp is A where iterm also being an open source project, what are you taking these days?
One problem with all this is that people rate things based on contextual stuff. GNOME terminal and Windows Terminal (which is open source by the way) are examples. People just don't like Windows or the GNOME desktop, but that should not be a valid reason to rate individual things.
Another problem is that serious rating should always be done on individual aspects of things, such as performance or the number of features.
Not including Tilix is unacceptable. It has literally any featurə that one might ever need
Cool Retro Term and eDex-UI are 2 super awesome gimmicky terminals. As far as functionality they're kinda pointless, but they LOOK AWESOME 😎👍
While the intent of this video is interesting, it completely falls apart in execution.
Many terminals were disregarded simply by saying they don't have any wowing features without ever listing what those are. Even going as far as reading a summary made by AI without checking facts.
On the other hand, many terminals were put at the forefront by saying they're great and have many great features, but again which features?
Some features were mentioned, like:
- Integrated AI assistant
- Ligature support
- Image rendering
- Infinite scrolling
- Performance
- Panes
- Hyperlink support
- Special events support (like mouse clicks)
But basically none of those were discussed, much less demonstrated.
For example, why is it so important for a terminal to be able to render images? What does it mean for a terminal to be performant? And so on and so forth.
Anyway. While the video is indeed entertaining thanks to your character, its content is worthless. I rank it F in my tier list.
Awwwwwwwe
Damn left out Konsol for all us kde fanboys.
Yeah, and worst thing is that he included gnome shitty terminal ans xfce terminal lol
AS long as a terminal does it job, it does NOT deserve an F.
i was flashbanged so many times this video i might be going blind
Number 1 feature every terminal MUST have for me is to support dropdown style like Guake/Yakuake, where I can bind Ctrl+` key to bring it up from anywhere. I can't live without that lol
you can do that in your WM with any terminal, google scratchpads :D
Great tier list! However, I noticed that Tabby and Wave Terminal were missing.
Termius is pretty sick lately. Edit: You're welcome.
My build of st is 112k. Does it get some point for that?
This is great except for the Warp terminal. No matter how fancy it is, it shouldn't be in A. I am not sure about an F but definitely not A. Reasons: Requires login to even work, Closed source and ofcourse telemetry. Also you should check out Wave terminal.
That's true, but he was deciding based on the features it has
And it was a little biased, because warp donates to foss projects, which makes them more respectable
@@no_name4796 I believe he was quite biased on this one(which he has all the right to be) and decided to brush aside the major flaws of the Warp terminal. He did try to justify this by saying things which shouldn't have affected the objective value of Warp terminal. Why does it matter if Warp supports open source or not when we are discussing the value of the terminal. As for the respect part, Microsoft also supports several open source products but that doesn't make them any more respectful. We should judge a product for what it is and Warp in my personal opinion is not a A-tier terminal. Forget all its other flaws. NO terminal should ever need to be required to be logged in to just get to the interface and use it. Period.
@@raviroy7882 as i said, he was biased in favor of wasp because of all the foss donations, imo.
But yeah, i wouldn't use wasp lol
To me the top one is foot terminal. Really good client server architecture. Super light on resources. Ability to set title and class. Really fast. It has everything.
Tabby for life; electrem also looks decent
You forgot Konsole ! I tried many but keep coming back to Konsole. It has everything and not too much at the same time.
you didn't try shit
I have to say, configuring st might be the hardest and it ig deserved low ranking but not last! Ik it's a personal preference. Anyway I use st for everyday use since I have a potato pc I have save up my resources for my browser and lsp. St did a great job at that. In my env st uses only 20mb ram. It also supports ALL THE FEATURES (all that i know of and use) of any terminal with least resource usage. But I can assure if I had a better device I'd have used kitty anyday and everyday (kitty isn't supported in my current device).
Also Warp deserves a C.
no terminator?????
Windows Terminal is actually fantastic. I main pop_os, but when I have to use windows for work, I actually really enjoy it and kind of wish it was available for Linux.
Personally I use the windows terminal because it lets you change the background image to a .GIF (most terminals don't support .GIF) or even your desktop wallpaper + UI looks cool + color themes are super easy to add
WARP has telemetry... FS Tier.
This tier list is actually dog water
Giving S tier without trying them is insane
Give d or something low to xfce terminal bcs some KDE gnome zoomers tells it is insane too
Tabby, Konsole ?
I used GNOME terminal for very long time and have been using kitty for past few months. don't know about other terminals, but kitty is great.
Come on now, "Terminator."
Patching and recompiling for st really isn't that difficult once you do it a couple of times. It really is great once you get it configured just right.
It's okay, Tabby, you're still an awesome terminal even if you're under the radar these days.
That's the one I'm using on Windows
I've been using it for a few months, working with DevOps and using it all day, I'm enjoying it a lot.
Where are all the emacs terminal emulators? Eshell and Vterm are great.
Can you make a video, why you choose ghostty instead of kitty?
Like what's that, kitty doesn't have, that ghostty have?
If it was competing in Linux, Windows Terminal would be a C, but in the Windows ecosystem it's a solid A
I started using Kitty after I subscribed to this channel. Still lots to learn, but I dig Kitty. I'd love to try Ghostty, but I lack the connections...
kitty is great!
The st slander in this video is outrageous
Warp is F tier spyware.
Could you elaborate?
@@sensei6988 Requires login and has extensive telemetry. I think it's risky for a terminal to have all of this, imagine leaving root passwords, SSH keys, etc. exposed, I wouldn't trust it.
i think he means that because it’s AI powered, it’s essentially sending lots of your data to the cloud. whether it’s secure or not is a bit difficult to prove, although it is open source. in any case shell commands includes more information that you should be comfortable giving away
@@loo_9 Warp is not open source. Better to use something like shell_gpt, which you can add to any terminal and use any AI source, including self-hosted ones.
💯 who the fuck uses a non open-source terminal on Linux? Web Dev brainlets.
Yes, Warp! They also sponsored OS/2 Warp.
windows terminal has more features than 90% of linux terminals but wezterm is the best terminal overall
Does kitty support true color? In mac I tried to use nvim but the cursor color is not changing to background font color.
yes it does
Kitty supports basically everything
It has more features then konsole, the kde default terminal lol
As a user of more than a year now, placing foot on C tier severely hurts, as it's literally everything I want from a terminal but in awesome C instead of, uhm, Rust.
Came here feeling reckless and ready to be wrong on the internet. Round 1: Fight!
What are usecases for image rendering in the terminal? Never needed it
You can render images for example in a terminal file browser.
same. I think the primary use case is what he’s using it for. just viewing what images are what, without relying on another program or relying of file names
i could see it being useful while using ffmpeg for example
if you write markdown files sometimes is useful
to add a waifu to your neofetch command :kekw
I really loved wezterm but for whatever reason, for me, it had crazy issues with eating my inputs and random slow downs. Maybe it was an nvidia hardware thing or something. I've been pretty happy with foot ever since I switched though, feels much more lightweight.
I doubt that it's an Nvidia thing. I've used it on AMD (GPU and CPU), Intel (integrated graphics and CPU, AMD GPU and Intel CPU), M1 Mac. This on Windows, Linux and MacOS. I want to like it, but it never runs as smooth as other options do.
Maybe I'll give it another shot tomorrow... I have an Nvidia GPU now. 😅
@@herrpez My thinking was that it probably had something to do with it being a hardware accelerated terminal, which I don't think many of the others are, but I could be wrong.
@@deathcare Alacritty is hardware accelerated too, and that runs like a dream on my work laptop, which is considerably less powerful than my home computer.
That being said, Wezterm seems to be a little bit faster than before. My main gripe has always been how slow it's been to spawn new windows/tabs. It's still not as quick as my main terminal emulator, but it's at least not painful anymore. 😄 Will have to check it out at work as well, but it's a little bit harder to justify messing around with terminal emulators for the fun of it in that setting.
Anyone that installs a terminal that requires graphical acceleration needs a psychological assessment.
You missed Konsole, Yakuake and Zellij
You didn't include Tabby. One of my favorite.
Dude. Thats so backwards. Its a terminal, of course it has to have the basics, cannot be like xterm, but the main criteria is? How fast it is. It gotta be fast, between AI BS and speed, i take speed all day.
Dont care if can render whatever, i want something that is the fastest launching application in my computer and runs on KB of RAM.
How can you not add terminator and terminology
This. Terminator has plenty of unique features (like multiplexing & broadcasting)!
I mean colored text should be pretty baseline these days..
I think performance/snappiness/memory usage is also a consideration, not just features
Alacritty is missing lots of things. You can't even copy and paste commands from one window to the other (on MacOS) - you still need to type Enter. Horrifying. Also, it tends to select crappy stuff with the mouse, mostly simple to much .. and it's configuration is a sheer horror!
Where is KDE Konsole ?
It has all the features which a S tier terminal will need. It has image, ligatures, multiple pane and many more features
Windows person here. I switched from Windows terminal terminal to... Windows terminal preview. The preview has a bit of new features the other one lacks. Still mid. Could be way better.
Foot terminal server mode is impressive. You run it as a server, allowing it to handle all clients, so opening clients is nearly instantaneous. There's no need to spawn another instance since it's already running in the background as a service.
I agree, its definitely really cool!
A terminal doesn't have to Wow me. It needs to function well and should have certain settings I might need. GNOME Terminal is that. That is my tool in this category as long as it exists.
Why is Alacritty slow when doing an ssh connection?
In this whole video did I not see a single terminal being used. This is NOT a ranking video based off of actually usage.
I have compared Alacritty and Kitty among different PC/Linux laptops & desktops & macbooks (intel and Mx) and I find Alacritty faster than Kitty, most of the time, being its own separate process, single tab, no multitab support makes it better for me. However it doesn't support images, I would put Konsole on B+, same as Alacritty.
just saying but u can make a poll in twitch stream like ask something and u give chat to vote for options
Gave the video a thumb up but I'm angry at the lack of Konsole.
foot gang for image preview
Warp in A is an abomination. Maximal a B.
You left out the terminal that makes all others obsolete: Terminator
what sense to rank Ghostty if its not available?
foot is SSS tier
Love the content recently! You're gonna love wezterm!
so you are ranking terminal emulators that you did't even try?
Shell tier list next?
While the fancier icons are cool, is a beginner going to understand that that's the icon for the terminal emulator? The icon should tell you what the program is.
Let's go Wezterm 🔥🔥🔥
Switched from windows terminal with wsl to wezterm, one of the best decision ever