Honda CT70 Clone (Ice Bear Champion) Upgrade Project
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- My Honda CT70 Clone (Ice Bear Champion) upgrade project has been fun and helped take my mind off of politics for awhile! I’ve learned from so many who have taken the time to share their knowledge and advice in online groups, so I’m trying to “pay it forward” with a video of my own.
I talk about the following (in order of appearance): ZS190 engine and making it fit; mounting the oil cooler; turn signal upgrade; LED headlight upgrade, wiring details, and how it looks at night; new tires; raising/mounting the front fender; folding bar end mirrors; exhaust/muffler upgrade; ZS190 star gear retaining washer; mounting a milk crate on back rack; Honda decals; thoughts on stock carburetor; engine startup; and “paying it forward” with gospel conversations on my TH-cam channel at / jeffreiman .
UPDATE: FOUND OUT ON LONG NIGHT RIDE THAT STAT COULD NOT KEEP BATTERY CHARGED WITH HEADLIGHT HOOKED UP DIRECTLY TO BATTERY. In the end, I went back to AC power. I had seen a video someone posted that showed some bad flickering, but on my zs190 engine it really only flickers badly at low idle, and I needed to increase idle rpms a little bit anyway. LED headlight works great at running rpms.
UPDATE #2 - LEARN FROM MY MISTAKES! In the video I mounted the front fender about 3 inched down from the top of the fork. Looks nice, but when braking and compressing the front fork springs, the wheel rubs against the fixed fender, which it would do if the fender was up higher. This is dangerous because on a very fast stop this will lock up the front wheel and the rider flies over the handlebars, which I did during my road test! I'm going to change it either near the top of the fork or back to original
UPDATE #3. So I'm betting that the oil cooler that came with my zs190 in my Icebear Champion doesn't make up the difference for the air flow it would block from the engine's cooling fins. I decided not to use it after all. I mounted my front fender halfway up in the fork ( mounted to lower half so it moves with the wheel, not fixed to the top of the fork; I learned the hard way when front tire locked up against the fender during a quick stop, sending me into orbit) and didn't feel I had room for the oil cooler anyway. Just to be on the safe side though, I mounted a Bosch oil temperature gage to an aluminum bar extended between the handlebar tightening bolts, so I can monitor engine oil temp in real time.
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Here are the links to most everything I’ve bought for the upgrades:
tail light and bracket: www.amazon.com...
120/90/10 tires: www.amazon.com...
Folding bar end mirrors: www.amazon.com...
Clutch removal tool: www.amazon.com...
45w LED Headlight: www.amazon.com...
Replacement battery: www.amazon.com...
Alarm with remote: www.amazon.com...
Scooter Cover: www.amazon.com...
Aluminum Turn Signals: www.amazon.com...
Chain adjusters: mytrailbuddyst...
Upper Exhaust - Aluminum mytrailbuddyst...
Clutch cable: mytrailbuddyst...
Clutch lever: mytrailbuddyst...
Honda Decals: mytrailbuddyst...
zs190 engine: www.cajunmaddo...
Brackets for oil cooler: www.menards.co...
Got mine yesterday. Picked it up in Chattanooga. Excited
Dude. That was a great video. Very informative/Interesting & full of ideas. Thanks for taking the time. Man of the Lord. Bless you brother!! I'm seriously thinking of purchasing one of these & really appreciate all of you out there with your knowledge/ ideas! People are watching and these Things are growing(Icebears) so Keep posting the upgrades & ideas please. Thanks again!
Thanks for taking the time out and sharing your experience those blinkers are nice I just ordered a crappy pair now that I see yours I want to throw mines down the street and get the ones you have lol
I also have two of those bikes and I installed 12" wheels and reinforced gold front shocks.
Thank You appreciate your help. Been looking at CT70 clones and your upgrades are great.
12:30 you could use the Honda CT Fender holder, you can get it also as a clone part.....
Do you have a link for that fender holder? The cheaper one?
@@mrstangblb i can give you a link from a german dealer only if you want
@@ramiretz Sure. Thanks!
@@mrstangblb www.monkeypower.de/epages/61916048.mobile/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61916048/Products/954&ViewAction=ViewProduct
@@ramiretz Thank you!
I plan to add the original ct70 turn signals.
Mine came with a wiring diagram. Owners manual.
Great bike! Couple things, boy that oil cooler line runs awful close to the exhaust...You changed tires..not wheels and lastly, do you think fifth gear is an overdrive? I'll bet it's 1:1 just like the 4 speed was.
Great video, doing the same.
What oil are you using?
Did the engine connect to the stock wiring harness?
I really enjoyed the video. Very informative and helpful. I will be attempting some of the same mods when my bike arrives..
I read somewhere that with the fender statically mounted so low ....the wheel will hit and lock and throw you over the top. True ?? So be careful.
That was me! It happened during my road test in front of 100 people waiting in line at the DMV! Yes, I think I wrote an update in the video description warning about this problem...
@@JeffReiman Glad you didnt get hurt, Someone must have quoted you in one of the forums. I never think to expand and read the notes. I rarely comment - but I enjoyed your video.
Thanks Jeff. I have the same bike.
How fast tpp speed and also cruising speed , thanks
I actually don't know, I had it in Chicago on city streets and never really opened it up on an open road.
Does the zs190 engine vibrate less than the original engine?
I didn't notice any difference.
What Facebook groups are helpful for this project?
Also you say you flipped over front of the bike? Did you get hurt? You're pretty big dude man thank God you're okay The bike looks like didn't take any damage either?
Just hurt my pride in front of several hundred people in line at the DMV. Never been more grateful to have on a helmet and facemask so no one could recognize me!
Great vid. Love the detail and the links. I have my second Icebear clone on the way, I’m going to try those mirrors. Folded down they’d offer minor handguard protection, did I see that correctly? Can you operate the front brake (and clutch) with the mirrors in the folded position?
Your fender mod is cool too. I have been trying to come up with a plan to have a higher fender and an oil cooler mounted on top of the engine. Most high fender mods block the airflow to the cooler. Fender to engine clearance isn’t the problem on the 125cc/140cc but having the cooler tucked up right behind the fender seems dumb. I think I’ll try to do my fender in a similar way...
Unfortunately the fender no longer stays the same distance from the wheel, so the wheel can rub against it during a quick stop, which may explain why i recently did a dive over the handlebars during the quick stop on my road test! Think I will raise it a little higher...
Folded mirrors work fine with hand controls.
I enjoy the video! I love the end too! “ Ten out of 10 people....”
Where did you purchase the bike, If you said in the video I missed it:-)
Birdy's Scooters for the bike, and Cajun Maddog for the ZS190 engine. I was very happy with both, Birdy's was a little slow on getting me the paperwork for title, but that's probably normal.
You put your Honda stickers on the wrong sides bro. That’s why they are crooked
Thx so much
How's the bike been running? Did you use the Original Cdi and coil? I have a White Champion i did the ZS 212 and it cuts out around 5000 rpm. Im going to try the coil included with the Zs212 and try the original icebear cdi. Idles great just nothing up top. 115 jet is still to rich. 36 pilot. Have some days off work going try to get running right. Im in Pittsburgh maybe our elevations are similar. What jet sizes do you run?
My stock coil on my icebear made my bike seem like it had a revlimiter. I swapped the Zs212 coil in the bike and now im doing 74 on the highway :) Curious if you had the same issue?
Good video, i admit i did skip around a bit so if you answered this sorry in advance. What was your total build cost with all the upgrades?
About $900 additional to the original cost of the bike. Biggest cost was the engine of course, but I sold the original engine and muffler for $300.
Tempted to sell one of my bikes to get one of these.
Do you remember the specifics on engine wiring? I’m putting a 190 in this weekend and couldn’t find much online
No, sorry, other than that the icebear has an extra wire, which can be joined spliced together so that the number of wires matched with the Zs190. Sorry I don't remember the specifics.
Jeff Reiman would it be possible for you to take a picture of your engine connector so I can see what wires go where?
@@jbmoto9281 Sorry, that's all tucked inside the frame. I had to cut some wires and add a compatible wire harness, but can't remember the details. Guess I'm getting old!
How long total would you say it took you to swap engines? I also have a Icebear purchased from Cajun and I’m considering doing the 190 swap. Was it worth it honestly worth it? I only go around the block and don’t go on long hauls, but I’d love a little extra power and a clutch! Thanks
It took maybe 10 hours, but I work pretty slow. I'm glad I did it, love the extra power. Worth it if you can sell the original engine and exhaust, got $300 for mine.
What is the name you register your bike for a title
Mine says DAIX has a L Chinese VIN.
How did you remove the old decals thanks.
Mine came right off; didn't seem to be designed to be permanent.
Well, it's not quite a ETCG1 video, but I did click quickly :)
As far as I can tell the only true upside to a clone is the increased fuel capacity out of the gate. Its like 1.7 gallons vs the Honda's .5 gallons from the original ct70.
and the cost. A poor condition Honda 70 with no title still runs $400^ so these running with better performance, better value for a driver, etc. Only true Honda CT70 purists are willing to pay what they are getting and what it costs to get a bonded title.
@@peterbawden3864 You can get complete ct70s in relatively decent shape, with no title, for around $500. And yes, the whole point of wanting to own a ct70, is wanting to own a ct70. Not a knockoff.
There's better bikes for less $ than a new one of these clones. That doesn't mean that's what people want just because "it's better".
you screwed up your honda stickers
you have put your honda decals on the wrong side
Is that why they didn't go on level?
Interesting video, Jeff. I am a Christian, too, and in this day and time I'm doing my best to be more vocal and open about Jesus. I work at our church and am not out and around a lot, but hopefully I can use my Ice Bear Champion that I'm getting soon as an ice breaker. Glad to know another Christian, and what are some of the forums you're on so I can look you up?
Hi, I usually have to initiate Gospel conversations with people on the street but when I'm on my Icebear I've had many people ask me about it just out of curiosity. After answering their questions about the Icebear I just ask for their thoughts about an interesting question - "What do you think happens after we die?" It's nice because I already know they have time to talk, so this usually starts a good conversation. My Facebook page is facebook.com/jreiman1/ and TH-cam channel is TH-cam.com/c/JeffReiman
@@JeffReiman Glad we can have ways to talk about Him. I'll go find you!
Be more vocal with me. What is the best reason you believe what you believe?
@@johnengland8619 For me it's the evidence that Jesus died on the cross and rose again. If He has power enough to do that, He has power enough to take me to Heaven as He promised, and He gives me guidance and abundant life until I get there.
@@mrstangblb that's what you believe, Jesus taking you to heaven is a promise that you believe. Why? What is the reason you believe that? Also you would be better off with 125cc to haul around and not be in the way. It's a jungle out there
I was the 100th like
I have 1 question I like to ask too. Most people run from me. Call me names and make threats. In accordance to 1peter3,15 can you give me 1 reason to believe what you believe ?
Why do people call you names and make threats?
@@JeffReiman burning in hell threats of violence when I ask for a reason. Names of heathen, godless commie and the such
@John England My guess is there is more to the story than your innocent question. So, to humor you, one important part of the body of evidence for my beliefs would be Jesus' resurrection from death.
@@JeffReiman just because you believe that doesn't make it true. Also that is not what I asked for. I asked for a reason. It's just too hard for you. You say you humor me? Ha. Another example for you. I HAVE A FULL HEAD OF HAIR I just have a hard time giving people a reason.
@John England So you don't believe evidence can give a reason? Are you moving the goalposts here? If not, how exactly do you define these terms? What are you criteria for "evidence " and "reason"?
The good: the mirrors and exhaust and the information on where to find them.
The headlight is interesting but your description of the wiring was confusing.
The milk crate was a clever solution.
The bad: you didn’t change the wheels. You changed the TIRES. In spite of the published numbers on sites like Amazon, tires from different manufacturers are not the same size outside diameter.
The ugly: the fender mount. You should start with an explanation of how the motor and oil cooler affected your choice. Those brackets should be black so people won’t notice them.
The HONDA sticker is on wrong. I suspect you swapped the left and right sides.
You say you are a teacher. I hope it isn’t public speaking 😮. If you edited out all the “and uh” your video would be half as long.
As for what happens after we die, lots of things! They just don’t involve us. Once this meat sack ceases to function the mind, which is a function of the brain, also ceases. The meat sack gets recycled into other stuff. No pearly gates. No 72 virgins. No planet of your own and best of all, no annoying old relatives who have been spying on you your whole life.
I hope this helps.
I like the parts about. Jesus think. God
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Why get the clone? Get the real one.
You turn off, & decompose for somebody's else's life.
Hello how did you install the mirrors