Please comment down below your favorite part of this video and don't forget to like my friends. Also, I've noticed some comments who think I made the mistake of assuming that the Enoch in Genesis 5 which is in the line of Seth is the Enoch son of Cain from Genesis 4. I spoke with a few scholars who understand Pentateuchal studies who said they think the Geneology in Genesis 4 & 5 are two versions of the same genealogy which is why there is confusion. Just as Genesis 1 & 2 are two separate creation accounts. I sincerely thought I was wrong from reading comments, but it looks like I'm in good company with critical scholars on this one. Heres a snippet of what Phillologist & Dead Sea Scroll scholar Matthew Monger said, "They are two different people in the narrative - but it’s so obvious that the descendants of Cain and the descendants of Seth come from the same made up tradition. They are basically the same names. Compare gen 4:17-26 (about Cain) with Gen 5 (about Seth)."
@@MythVisionPodcast , 1, that was extremely rude of me, 2, nice self-emoji, 3, I was like, "Dude! Get to the good stuff!", 4, Once we finally got there, I legit loved the material. It was really interesting how many parallels there were between Enoch and other regional myths. Your connections between Enoch and Titans made me think of how Adam and Eve were supposed to be hundreds of feet tall in some extra-biblical jewish and christian writings. Between W. O. E. Oesterly and Irving Finkel, I'd long taken it as a given that most Hebrew myths were borrowed from cultures around them, and it was really cool to see connections to some of the more obscure myths I hadn't heard of. Oh for a world where organized religion didn't purge a thousand years of writings, history, and folklore!
Thanks Sam, I was being a bit jabby as well and meant nothing bad by it, because many people need to be guided on where we're at and why before I dropped the nuggets on them.
It’s crazy how people who don’t know Christ and truly walk with him. Will always look at it as fiction. There are unexplainable things in my life. I’m a witness I know God.
Many say the same about Allah the one true God of whom Mohammed was the last holy prophet, or the Hindu Gods, or Zoroaster. So, you understand their perspective.
You are indoctrinated to told those inepties and no you don't know Yahweh ... The fictional psychopath monster planetary killer who never chose to teach and educate his minions instead he always chose kill and massacre people.
Thanks for this discussion. Some of the Irish myths and legends speak of giants, warriors and challenging gods. Ageless people and knowledge in the salmon are also there. Thanks again😇🙏
in many of those stories the words translate as wise or powerful but people have chosen giant, just as the menehune in Hawaii is understood as little people but in antiquity they were peasants, of lower class.
You should also know that Enoch is one of three who never died. The Roman Catholic Church removed his books in 400AD. Only two churches kept his books in their Bible. One is even in Ethiopia.
You see me you the father the father and I are one no man sees the father unless he, come through me kingdom of Yahweh comes be severed not to severe those those who desire to be served will become a servant of all father be came the son are salvation are way are truth are ark are covenant, are eternal glory . Simon who's is called Peter ,whom the Lord loves, the Jewish Nation the Israelites I like Peter , I'm fear rejected 3 *aren't you one of them that were with him you asking Israelite today Yeshua Messiah. Is there's they have denied like Peter they will be forgiven when finally they cry out. He said his disciples that one stone should be upon another no Stone in place it will be dislodged and cast down when he was talking about the temple though in the last days you is shall be erected and the abomination that is desolation will set in place where the Lord has consecrated is consecrated . The heart which is the soul being filled with his spirit .To be worshiped""' the lord, yeshua saying to Simon you'll be the rock upon which I build my church and why the Israelites 3 day a day to Yahweh 1000 years we just entered the early morning of this Third day with the millennium Mary Magdalene and Mary the three women arose out early that morning from the tomb early that morning Peter to the rock upon which I build my Temple like Peter the Israelites Israelites represent him for he denied him I like a rock their hearts were they are the first servants movie the foundation make up that Temple the stones gather from the four corners of the Earth the temple without the cornerstone the stumbling block in Zion . Cannot be completed . The hearts the mind soul he made consecrated Yeshua Messiah all glory and praise.let be one it done through he said it's finished in to I commend my spirit those that him glory to Yeshua are yahovha Yahweh everlasting let it be done.
@@AntoninusPius17 it's simply part of the biblical canon under Ethiopian Orthodox/Tewahedo, which is longer-running than any European Catholic or Orthodox. It's something I've been wanting to look into the history of.
This new format is truly amazing , the quality graphics and presentation is spot on . Whichever biblical topic you pick Derek you sure do it justice for the sake of the truth .
I like the format and find the content very interesting, but if I may critique it a bit, I would add that maybe Derek could experiment with finding a way of injecting some pauses, maybe short burst of music, or maybe repetition, or query, or a reaction, something to break up the speed of the flow of information. The content is so packed, that a pause at some points would enhance understanding. Some books you read at a fast pace without putting them down, and others you take a bit at a time. I have never played cricket, but I can tell if the pace is fast, slow, moderate or very fast.
There are two Enoch's. The Enoch of the Cain line is not the one who was from Seth's line. Seth's line Enoch is who the book is written about, He walked with God.
@@johnbee4557read the book of Enoch, he is the only man to ever become an angel. That angels name, like this guy just stated, is Metatron. He's right bro.
"Dear God, I come to you with a heart full of gratitude for the blessings you have bestowed upon me. Thank you for the abundance of resources you have provided, including financial blessings. I ask for your continued guidance and wisdom in managing these resources responsibly and using them to fulfill my purpose in serving others and spreading love and compassion in the world. Amen."
Why the tip of the cap to the Egyptian Amen Ra at the end of your prayer. Seems odd. Christians use this without even understanding. The Jews picked this up in Egypt and now it’s used in Churches all over the west. Same Christians think 12/25 is Jesus birthday and that Easter is a Christian holiday.
One of the best, if not THE best doc I've watched in a year of research on history, pre-history and mythology. Many trains of thought have either left the station...or had their routes extended. Thank you.
Scorpio is the eagle, Etana is Ophiuchus, next door to Sagittarius, playing the roll of Athena and the Far Shooter, The 3 constellations associated with the Golden Gate of the Gods, the center of our galaxy, where stars are born, who the ancient people called gods. The Archer, far shooting with a silver bow. The god of healing who taught man medicine. The god of light. The god of truth, who can not speak a lie. His twin sister is Artemis. He is the god of music, playing a golden lyre. Pallas Athena, Goddess of Strategic Warfare, Wisdom, Handcrafts and Arts. Pallas derived from the Greek word pallô meaning "to brandish (a spear)". Pallas was a Goatish god, Athena made her arm guard out of his skin, the one that holds the Spear. PALLAS was the Titan god of battle and warcraft. He was the father of Nike (Victory), Zelos (Rivalry), Kratos (Cratus, Strength) and Bia (Power) by Styx (Hatred), children who sided with Zeus during the Titan-War. Sagittarius is where you find Spiculum, meaning Spear, a little bloody red spot, you find the Sun at on the Day of the Winter Solstice. The first Doctor was the Dog Headed Goddess Bau/Gula, the She Goat, the Harp(Lyra) Star Vega, directly above Ophiuchus. A doctor would use a Speculum to look where babies come from, Sagittarius is the hips and thighs, Scorpio is the sexual organ, Ophiuchus, like the hidden 13, is the womb, which carries Damu "the Child", the Dying and Rising god of Healing, Son of Pabilsag. Both Pabilsag and Damu names are associated with each other, Sumerian word Pabil means 'ancestor or relative'. In combination with the final element sag, meaning 'chief or foremost', Damu should be translated as "blood," and refers to the concept of a deified kinship, a "brother" or "relative". If you play the words "Say There Is A Guest" in reverse, you hear it echo Sagittarius, or "Her Message" to echo December, and "Her Bid One, Wise Quotes" will echo "Scorpio, November", played in reverse, and for Ophiuchus, I find two words, for the two ways people pronounce the name, you'll like them both, "Seek Reefer" and "Sacred Aether", would that be smoke from the reefer. Sagittarius is shaped like a Teapot. The bloody red spot Spiculum played in reverse will echo Mother Cups, the Grail. You find it by drawing a line from the Eye of Sagittarius to the Red Heart of Scorpio "Antares", the echo heard playing "She Raise Dead" in reverse. That was only the Golden Gate of the Gods, there is also the Silver Gate of Man, between them is the Gate Keeper, the Setatna, "He who knows the Way".
@@KargoskiTheMessiah Sorry for taking so long, TH-cam had me on a 24 hr. timeout, ha ha ha The article below, might of gave me my timeout, Timeout started after I posted it, on Neil's channel, Derick's buddy, I'm removing the URL, but everything list should bring it up in a search. There are no Sources for my work on reverse speak, as for the Gold and Silver Gates, I believe those are well known, plenty of information on the web about them. I did notice in that comment a part that I must of copied and pasted, from "The Archer to the "children who sided with Zeus during the Titan-War". That's not my writing, had to of copied it, from where I have no clue, sorry, try highlighting a phrase and running a search for, It's how I find much of my info. You might like this, I came across it today (Yesterday), that is older comment, when I hadn't found the 3rd thigh, Orion and Sagittarius are two, the Big Dipper of Ursa Major is the 3rd, read this THE COSMOLOGY OF THE SUMERIANS Author(s): H. Radau Source: The Monist , October, 1902, Vol. 13, No. 1 (October, 1902), pp. 103-113 Published by: Oxford University Press It seems to be talking about September being an importin date the Festival of Bau, only mention at the end of the article, Bau-Gula is the She Goat Vega. September 4th to 8th is the Planetary alignment, all the visible planets align with Spica, the hand star in Virgo, the 8th is the first day of the new moon, on the last day of the alignment, the 8th is Mary's birthday too. You'll see why after reading that article. about 12 pages long, but full of eye openings information. The 7 main star of Ophiuchus forms a mountain, on Christmas day at 12:00, Ophiuchus, although unseen, takes up the whole southern sky, at 12:00 noon Vega, the Dog Headed Goddess Bau-Gula is the Mid-Heaven Star. I do believe there was a Jesus, not sure if his name was Jesus thou, religion is based upon Faith, I have faith god is real, and always watching, from "Beyond the Mist", played in reverse "Gemini", Twin or Two sides, you'll understand if you read that article.
You find the Golden Gate of the Gods behind Sagittarius, the center of our galaxy, where stars are born, they called gods, Sagittarius was known as Pabilsag, the father of Damu, the dying and rising god of healing. The Silver Gate of man is found between Gemini and Taurus, Orion and his Club standing in the Center, Orion was known as Sah, “Sahu the Hidden One”, in Sumerian, ‘sah’ means “pig”, ‘sahu’ means “Boar”, and Damu was known as The Swine, seen as the head of Draco, the Egyptians called Draco Taweret, the goddess of Rebirth, also known as Reret “The Sow”, she was known as the wife of Seth (Set), the 7 stars we call the Big Dipper, Thigh of the Bull’s Leg, the thigh is associated with the Lions, both Osiris and Seth were referred to as Boars. The Gates can speak, play the words “Her Message-Say There Is A Guest” in reverse, they echo “Sagittarius-December”, now play “Say Oath-They All Rule-Beyond The Mist”, in reverse they echo “Gemini-Orion-Taurus”. Next to the Bull Slayer is the Gate Keeper, play the words “Her Mithras-Boy/Girl” in reverse, it echoes “Virgo-September”, Virgo is the Latin word for Virgin, ‘vir’ is Latin for Man, ‘gyne’ (gin) is Greek for Woman. now play “Way-I’ll Open It-So They Go-See God” in reverse, they echo “August-Regulus-Denebola-Leo”. Lions speak through the tips of their tails, what’s in their heart, when the Lioness is on the hunt, Regulus is the Heart, Denebola is the Tip of the Tail of Urgula, the name of Leo the Lion, Urgula means Great Dog, mother of Damu was known as Bau-Gula, mother of gods, goddess of Dog’s, the She Goat star we call Vega, the Harp Star. Polaris was known as The dog’s Tail, Earth is tilted 23.4 degrees towards Polaris, 23.4 degrees the other side points towards Vega, our old Pole Star 12,000 years ago. Twin stars links both gates, the meaning of their name is “First Born”. When its at midheaven, it takes 7 hours to fall, replaced at midheaven by Vega. You find it by placing the star at the tip of Orion’s Sword on the Western horizon, Orion plowing Gaia, leaving his Haya, meaning Grain/Seed, a word hidden in the name of that star, read backwards in Hebrew, Hatysa means “Savior of Sinner”, in Hebrew, ‘yasa’ means “Savior”, ‘hata’ means “to Sin”. You find Alula at midheaven in December and again 9 months later, 9 months 7 hours, the month of September. Haya is the god of Scribes, known as the Door-Keeper, the husband of Nisaba, goddess of Grain, the Star Spica, found in Virgo. Starting on September 4th, the planetary alignment begins, the last day you see the old moon. the 5th it goes dark for 3 days, on the 8th when you see the Moon again, it will be Mary's birthday, mother of Jesus. All the planets resonate with the number 7, even our sun, that dances like Shiva, that's Hebrew for Seven, my favorite number, twin sevens even better, Shiva dances like our Sun, it's tilted 7 degrees, at it's equator, a 25 day spin, 2+5=7, the poles of the Sun spin much slower, 35 days each, 35+35=70, a point on the 7 degree tilted Sun takes 79 years to complete one full rotation, and a 79 year cycle is seen when Mercury and Mars are together like twins, next to each other, Mercury retrogrades 22 times every 7 years, having a 88 day year, 8+8=16, hiding a 7, which the number of Triangle Mercury makes every 7 years, each retrograde takes place 120 degrees from the last, after 3, a triangle can be outlined, another 7 is found in the number of days Mercury has every Earth year, Mercury has 6 days every Earth year, but if you count Mercury's mid-day double sunrise, it makes 7 days, and the 7 is found with Mars as well, Mars retrogrades 70 to 79 days, loops around the Sun and back to the same spot in 707 days, conjuncts with Venus 3 times in 9 months, on a 77 month cycle, and Venus retrogrades 43 days every 77 weeks, 7 weeks hidden behind the Sun, a Jupiter year is 11.86 years, 11+86=97, that equals 16, a Saturn year is 29.5, equals 34, all the way out to Pluto, 124+124=248, a Pluto year, 1+2+4=7. Whose movement is in the shape on an egg, it takes Pluto longer to get around the Silver Gate of Man, between Gemini and Taurus, where Orion stands in the center, and shorter time to get around the Golden Gate of the Gods, between Sagittarius and Scorpio, behind Sagittarius is the center of our galaxy, where stars are born, out of the black hole, Sagittarius is the hips and thighs, which holds your butt, where you find another one, ha ha ha The first comment needed to be updated, a little bit more of what I'm working on, hope you enjoy.
Such fascinating information Derek, and you must explore the origins of the Sumerian people, and where they got the idea of writing down these stories!
@@jeneb52 thank you for responding. The Creation happened and The One called Lucifer before in Heaven and then later Satan, the Devil had already lost his rebellion in Heaven and was cast out by Michael and the Host of Elohim defeated them. So please give me your reasoning for dating this prior to that event, please & TY. FUNFACT: No precursor to the script that Sumerian peoples used. Curious your thoughts? This world has been fashioned (i.e. Cultural and literal structure of civilized life) after all that sprang up from this enigmatic society. Law, writing, surgery, invetro pregnancy, genetic manipulation, advanced mathmatics, engineering, metalurgy, medicine, library, university, recording, domestication, agriculture, Doctors, lawyers, science, WE ARE their prey. Science today is SCIENTISM, a cult with no connections to the scientific method. js YHWH IS MY LORD
Excellent video Derek. Easy to follow, concise and story well told. I could easily see it being recommended to laymen with little knowledge of ancient mythologies.
This channel needs to dedicate much more time to the religions of ancient Mesopotamia. Because they are 1. An area most of humanity at large knows nothing about and 2. Are the bedrock of the religions that came after the Bronze Age Collapse, like Judaism for example. It is based on Mesopotamian religions that had been in the levant for thousands of years.
I liked your comment. My thought has been that Judaism came after the Bronze Age collapse - probably because of it - but the Mesopotamian religions are earlier. This may explain the reversal in roles between biblical and Mesopotamian myths, and the Hebrew preoccupation with false idols. I haven’t read very much about this.
As long as these videos in this series do really well, I'd be happy to continue down this path. This kind of content takes alot of time to produce and edit.
One million percent agree. Christians need to realize that their religion is only set apart by the fact that it had a genius mass marketer in Paul. There is literally nothing else unique about it.
Learning about all the National/Empire movements before and during and after the Bronze Age Collapse really helped me understand a lot of things against Bibliolatry and pro-wider awareness of context.
@MythVisionPodcast We appreciate all of the time and effort you put into these videos and educating people on the origins of these religious myths, Derek. If only we could educate all Abrahamic believers about this.
There are two Enoch one son Cain, the other son of Jared from the seed of Seth, son of Adam. Enoch, the scriber, is the seed of Seth. The man that became an angel and Prince in heaven.
Agree...this is what im going to comment, the two enoch...becoz in his introduction he emphazise the enoch descending from cain...its not the enoch who walk with God.
I just want to say Derek that you are doing a very good job reading this. A mispronunciation a couple of times but very easy to overlook. I’m half way through this with you right now but thought you should be given a couple of thumbs up on your job right now. 👍👍, David
I would never claim to know everything, even after living over half a century. One thing I do know is, anyone who tells you that you are inherently bad, because of the mere fact of your existence, is lying to you. Especially some guy in a funky bathrobe who passes around a deep-dish plate for you to put money in.
We are inherently human. God made us. He made us to be...not to be good or bad, just to be, because he could or because he wanted to, who knows? They were given life and told here is your food. They were, well, innocent, not good, not evil. When a person goes against what God says, intentionally or accidentally, I changed that person. We learn and or are changed by everything we do, one way or another. That's called experience. With experience we learn and grow and are changed. We they disobeyed God, for which there were consequences, they were changed beyond understanding. But let's say their DNA was changed or evolved if you prefer. And now because of that first sin of yours and my ancestors. We are all the glasses full of water with just that drop of black ink. Because if you add one drop to clean water, do you have clean water? No. And then if you diluted that inky water through generations and generations and generations...is that as clean as the first cup? Once you add that darkness there is no way to take it out. Only the grace and mercy of God can remove that little bit of ink from our souls. The real problem was that, no soul, with even the tiniest bit of that stain of sin. It's a stain because it's not my sin but it's still there. Its still real. No soul, with any kind of sin attached to it could enter into heaven. And no human no matter how Godly could manage to live a perfectly righteous life. Then enters Jesus of Nazareth. The true son of God. The son of man because his mother was human. The Christ or savior of mankind. The only person that has ever been able to live a completely holy life, and only able to because his father, is God. If he had two human parents he would have been like any other human who had failed to be righteous enough to get into heaven. Our capacity to love is what makes us not evil. Our choices in life are what make us further away from the truth and our God. Without Jesus we would have continued to have no way to get to heaven unless God himself came and plucked us from the earth by hand. If you read all this then my thanks. I praise and pray to God alone. But I can give thanks to my saviour Jesus. He who saved me from myself walking a line through life with no thought of the true meaning of life. Amen
I have another theory on the sources of these mystical experiences. I've had an NDE, and most ancient religions, could be seen as ways to describe what I saw. The problem comes in, when others, who have not had these experiences, start manipulating the story to suit themselves.
In the same vein please have Paul Wallis on the show and hear his take on what the Old Testament was all about originaly. A guarantied field day for all. +100k subsribers, congratulation ! I was around years ago at the begining. Well done !
@@MythVisionPodcast He's been an Anglican priest for 30+ years and now he has his own TH-cam channel called The 5th kind with close to 1M subs. He is a scholar and a writer, but above all his take on the old Hebrew texts, Enoch, the Elohims, Mesopotamia, Judaism's switch to monotheism, the Annunakis and much more, is incredibly enlightening.
Y’all need to read and understand pray about what you don’t understand, and pray and about what you will understand, surrendering expectations yields realization.❤Your buddy Inkey
According to another version of this myth, Adapa is the son of Enki, this is the reason he could do what he did with the south wind. Anu wanted to meet his grandson, that’s how Adapa went to Nibiru and back. Definitely the story of Enoch, as he was given a tour of Nibiru.
Glad to find this content Derek, I followed you here via your Dr. James Tabor interviews re: Paul & Jesus, thanks for this and those, excellent production values and a welcomed synthesis of History, Religion, Myth & Biblical studies. Thanks for your work and putting these topics out there for further pursuit by a larger audience.
The Hindu high God VISHNU also rides on the back of an eagle. This eagle is a demigod named Garuda (from where an Indonesian airline got its name). Garuda is the mortal enemy of all snakes, celestial or otherwise. It's ironic because Vishnu sleeps on a bed of divine serpents.
Mexican flag has that symbol as well...I find it ironic or interesting because I heard from my mother and grandmother that the Aztecs who settled in Mexico or those particular races actually came from India into Mexico through canoes. And across the Bering straight, guided by a spirit that told them that they would find a great land once they found an Eagle devouring a snake. And that when they came to what now modern day Mexico city that they saw exactly what the vision foretold and they built up Mexico's ancient modern city into an empire.
We Gowda Saraswat Brahmins were abiding on the banks of a river Saraswati now believed to be gone mystic,she is wife of Supreme Creator Bramha and goddess of knowledge in a form of river Saraswati believe theory of Karma .. what you sow shall you reap.. Only Giant we know is Ghatotkach.. a child born when Lord Aanjaneya (Hanumanji), a lifetime bachelor flew to Lanka and his perspiration drops fell in the sea and gulped by a female crocodile..try Google for hindu immortals and the reasons for them getting grant of immortality by the lord.. Do visit Mana village, the end of upper India.. the origin point of Maa Saraswati, they say it's gateway to heaven.. many people have tried to venture beyond this point but vanished or turned insane... Google it There are many types of snakes in our mythology and Vasuki with 5 heads had requested Lord Mahavishnu to be his comfort when the lord is resting.. and the lord has ordered Garuda not to harm snakes.. who are trying to survive.. themselves.. in rural India people kill a snake as soon as we see it.. but forget that in monsoon their lives become hell with water filled in their homes... I am from lineage of one of the 7 sages- Guru Vashistha.. You can Google and see sapta rishi constellation.....
I'm glad you mentioned the Watchers and the Nephilim because Christians love to dismiss this passage as the "sons of God" just being the human sons of Seth, instead of what's actually defined in the book of Enoch as beings who are supernatural in origin. This shares so much in the Mesopotamian myths of the Annunaki and the Gilgamesh stories, which Christians want to deny has no connection at all to Genesis. Clearly not so. I think you might have an error on one point- Enoch, the one who journeyed into Heaven and such, was descended from Seth. There was another Enoch, son of Caine, in the Genesis narrative, but he wasn't connected to the supernatural experiences of the Sethian Enoch, as far as I know.
I noticed the disconnection from Enoch being a son of Seth also. Thanks for mentioning it! I would like more about this concept of Enoch being a son of Cain also. As I've always understood Enoch as being of the third line from Adam as well!
Seth was the name of Set, the god of chaos, who you could say, did some Sin, the name of the Moon god, which the Moon cycles with the rhythm of females. If you play "New Womb" in reverse, it echoes "Moon". Would the Watchers be the Nephilim, play "Moon Friend" in reverse, it echoes "Nephilim". If you Watch the Moon, you see that it's rhythm is 7, where in the center, Eve hides, between the S'N, play "Sin Eve" in reverse, you hear it echo "Venus", doing the same with "Seven", you hear it echo "Novus", meaning New, something, Shiva do, in Hebrew Shiva means Seven, the number of weeks Venus spends behind the Sun, which is tilted 7 degrees, giving it that little Shiva Dance. Both Venus and the Moon are tide-locked with Earth. The observed spin-orbit resonance of Venus, whereby the same side of Venus faces the Earth at each inferior conjunction, retrograding 40-43 days, in the same 5 zodiac signs. Located at 40 degrees N. Lat. by 331 Long. is a Pyramidal crater, with an Eye in the center, at the bottom of the pyramid, it looks like it's weeping, I call it Jeanne the Weeping Eye of Venus, when let out of her bottle, caused a little chaos.
You are correct. Enoch from the dead sea scrolls was not from the line of Cain. However please be careful generalizing "Christians" . I am a Christian and am very familiar with Enoch and believe it is very important to be familiar with.. It is quoted in the New Testament even ,which Christians view as the inspired Word of God so idk how some Christians are so dismissive of it.
@@dustinmartindale7482 like it begs to ponder. Was it the one Enoch from the line of Cain or Able. And who actually had these spiritual revelations or what actually or who summoned God or wrote down these visions. Could be another deity or elohim (being of shining white light) we don't know for certain which of the two Enochs write the Prophecies that the apostles later were used. It could have been under some ritual and not God that they got their revelations.
11:20 I understand that things on stone will last longer than paper-like materials, but how would anybody know that the stone tablets are the “original” works or know anything is an original work for that matter? Sounds like a faith based claim.
Fantastic content. I've always found it fascinating that the major pagan pantheons around the world are pretty much parallel duplicates. From Egyptian to old Norse, from Greco-Roman to Sumerian the similarities are stark and obvious. The Nag Hammadi and Dead sea scrolls are some of the most intriguing I've had the privilege to read. Keep up the great work my friend.
There are two Enochs in Genesis and I think you've mixed them up. One was a descendant of Cain, the other a descendant of Seth. There's no indication that they refer to the same person. Also, you seem to be under the impression that Genesis is post exile. The book of Enoch was written much later, in Hellenistic times, but Genesis is pre-Neobabylonian. There are different sections of Genesis, like the foundation legends and genealogies in the first 10 or 11 chapters, then the biographies of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph in the other 40 or so chapters. The genealogies themselves are not found in the dead sea scrolls because all the copies of Genesis found there are were very damaged, and the fragments have not been able to be reassembled as of yet. The DSS don't represent the dating of any old testament documents, just the oldest extant manuscripts.
@@timeformegaman yeah, but saying Enoch - the raptured historical figure from the line of Seth - was in fact Cain's son is like saying that Moses was King Sargon
I have long been familiar with the Greek myths and the lore of Enoch, but I have never noticed the similarities that you mentioned. On the other hand, most of the Sumerian lore you relayed was new to me. Additionally, it had never thought it strange that people within the same empire might share stories. It is one thing, though, to have a general sense of sharing; your description of how the stories were passed on with the teaching of the Aramaic language makes a lot of sense. It is nice to have a specific mechanism for this common lore. I am impressed!
The Arabic version of Anun is a variant of the name Anan, which means “cloud" and this is why in Sumer Noah was known as the sky god Anu the ancestor of the Anunnaki (It doesn't mean there isn't Anunnaki who live somewhere in space) and Hopi Anu-naki means “ant friends" and Hapi based on my research the founder of the Hapiru tribe of Babylon and Hopi tribe of America was the son of Horus and Qebehsenuef another son of Horus married his cousin Kebechet the daughter of Anubis and Quebec is named for them and Bêche Nutraceutical Company is utilizing her short name and beche-de-mer which is boiled, dried, and smoked flesh of sea cucumbers used to make soups and even though Sea Cucumbers are found in different waters of the world this company according to its own claims teams up with Canadian fishermen who harvest wild Sea Cucumber off the East Coast of Canada and even the river Thames was known as the Isis river in the past and Isis was the wife of Osiris and the word Dura an anagram of Ziusudra is the outermost of the 3 meninges pronounced məˈninjēz and Ningal where we get the word "Ninja" was the daughter of Enki and mother of Ishtar where the word "star" derives from and where we eventually get the English nursery rhyme "Star Light, Star Bright" and the father of Ishtar was Nannar "Suen" where we get the word "Sun" and he was the son of Enlil who was known as the ancestor of the Enlilites as in "lights" and the word Bright is pronounced brīt and Min "Lord of the eastern desert" is where the word "men" derives from and he was the son of Osiris and brother of Horus and Anubis and the ingles in the word meninges as in English is pronounced ˈiNG(ɡ)liSH and the word "baby" as in Babyland as in Babylon and the baby sound “ga ga ga” is what is known as reduplicated babbling and the connection to the Tower of Babel and is connected to confusion of tongues or a confusion of sounds or voices. The Amori (Amorites) descend from Emer the son of Canaan and grandson of Ham and they worshipped a god called Amurru also known as Martu a spelling variation of the name Marduk and the ancient Incans descendants of Enki (Enkais) worshiped a god called Amaru and ancient Greek Gigantes contains Giges a spelling variation of Gigas "giant" and "Antes" as in Andes Mountain founded by King AE. T N. IY D. EY also known as "Andy" the ancestor of the Andeans of South America and the ancient kingdom of Kuga-Ki which is named for Ningikuga and her husband Enki and the Hebrew GOD was known as "Ancient of Days". I want to add that the Katkari is an Indian tribe in Maharashtra and the Amaru also known as Katari an ancient serpent or dragon that the Incan people worshipped (It could have been a king that was wearing some type of jewelry with a serpent or dragon symbol, and the symbol associated with Enki was the entwined snake which represents the DNA double helix and Marduk was known as the "snake-dragon" and his wife was called Sarpanit a spelling variation of "serpent" and snakes were called dragons in the past and according to legend Mušḫuššu was a dragon (snake) owned by the sun god Marduk and one of the symbols of Enlil was the "Winged Sun" and he named one of his sons Suen and his son King Utu Malak-bel was worshipped as a sun god in the ancient city of Sippar and he was also worshipped by the names Moloch and Baal by the ancient Canaanites that descend from Canaan the son of Ham. The connection to Peru and the Peruvians and Perun worshiped by the ancient Kievan Rus who descend from Rushash the son of Tyrrhenus and grandson of Japheth and the surname Peruničić derives from his name Perun and what is very interesting is there is a tribe called Mashco-Piro and there was an ancient Sumerian king named Mashkakatu King of Kish the son of Ziu-sudra King of Babel and Shurrupak and his father was called Urbara-Tutu. The Cockatoo bird and the connection to the Sumerian king Mashkakatu and here are some other spelling variations kaketoe derives from Malay kakatua and I wonder if that is a spelling variation of Krakatoa. Malay derives from the names Mara and her daughter Lia the ancestors of Emzara who married Noah and Ley line is pronounced ˈleɪ ˌlaɪn as in lea lain and is named for Lia “Lea" means "glade" or "open meadow" and the ancient Chinese called them Dragon Lines according to them when the lines cross each other their energy spirals into a vortex and the Chinese Dragon symbol represents good fortune and energy. Lamech as in Ley-mik LEY farming in which grasses and legumes are grown for hay, silage, and pasture in proper rotation to meet full livestock needs and to enhance and maintain soil fertility. The hoopoe also called Huppe which was sacred to the ancient Egyptians, and they are depicted on their walls and tombs and Huppé is also the name of a Quebec company which derives its name from Hapy "Hapi" which based on my research his descendants founded the Hapiru and Hopi tribes and his brother Qebehsenuef and his wife Kebechet is where the name for Quebec comes from and he Huppe bird connection to the Huluppu tree that grew on the banks of the Jordan and Euphrates rivers. The Hawaiian god called Kane? (son of Adam and Eve) and goddess Laka and her Hulu dance and the name for the Huluppu tree and the mother of Lilith was called Lilake also known as "Lily Lake" and by the name Zanabaq and the connection to the Zanaki tribe of Africa a Bantu tribe of Tanzania located to the east of Lake Victoria and Atun the brother of Naamah who married Noah and his name was spelled Atum which has to do with "a tomb" and the name Adam and the word Damah is found in the Bible and damah is pronounced daw-mam' which is a primitive root; to be silent (my interpretation) deceased. Luluwa the ancestor of the Luluwa tribe of Congo, Africa and she was also known as "Kalmana" the daughter of Adam and Eve and the connection to Kaimana in Waikiki, Hawaii and the name Ki KiKi the wife of Noah and the mother of Enlil and Enki and they descend from Tiamat also known by the names "Thaláttē" and "Thalatta" and she directly descends from K'thaal "Thaal" the son of Enosh and grandson of Seth the son of Adam and Eve and Seth married Aklia a spelling variation of the name KALIA found in Honolulu Hawaii and the Aku Aku spirits of the Rapa Nui of Easter island which was named for Ishtar the daughter of Nannar Suen which matches the name of the parent language Siouan of the Waccamaw tribe of America and Siouan is pronounced ˈsuːən and the Rapa Nui represents Ranginui "Rangi" "Sky" and Papatūānuku" "Papa" "Earth" and Nui is a spelling variation of "Nuah" and "Nu" the nicknames of Vishnu also called "Fishnu" and Narayana and Nara means "water" "man" and Yana means "vehicle", "vessel", or "abode" "home" as in the biblical Ark and the name Noah means "rest" and "nuah" or "nua" means lazing around or resting. Atun married Hazina and according to Bantu legends, the first man was born from a plant, he came from phragmite reeds, but he most likely emerged out of the phragmite reeds that can grow to a height of 20 feet rather than born from a plant. Hazina, Tanzania is named for Hazina and she is the ancestor of the Hadzabe "Hadza" tribe of Tanzania based on my research. There are about 35,000 dolmens located on the Korean peninsula alone and according to experts Dolmens trace back to Western Europe (Japheth's domain) and are dated to 7,000 years ago which is about the 6,000 BC time period. A dolmen or portal tomb is a type of single-chamber megalithic tomb, usually consisting of two or more upright megaliths supporting a large flat horizontal capstone or "table". Based on my research the word "adamah" is where Dolmen comes from and the name of Adam in the Miautso language of China is "Dirt" meaning earth or clay, the substance from which he was said to have been created. (Not saying that he was made this way but that is what the ancient people believed) According to legend Adam was a giant created in a cave by 300 angels (scientists in a laboratory or medical facility with a door that appeared similar to a cave entrance to the ancient people) and when we are born humans have 300 bones and cartilage but later in life due to fusing bones, we only have 206 bones, so it appears the ancient people acquired this information from someone that had to have advanced knowledge of how the human body operates. If not a real laboratory or medical facility, then a cave converted by the ancient people into a primitive like birthing center (My Interpretation) Adam was born on a dirt floor of a very large cave surrounded by 300 members of his immediate family, and this has led to legends that his name is connected to the word dirt. (Continue with the connection to Peru) Piri Reis his real name was Ahmed Muhiddin Piri, and he had the Turkish title of Bey and the Ottoman Turks trace back to central Asia where the Scythian Avar's that descend from Avor the son of Togarmah and grandson of Gomer the son of Japheth. Perieres King of Messenia notice his name is similar to Piri Reis and he is the son of King Aeolus the ancestor of the Aeolians the son of Héllen and grandson of Deucalion and Pyrrha daughter of Epimetheus and granddaughter of Japheth the son of Noah now we know why Deucalion the grandson of Japheth (known as jā'feth because he and his family built the port of Jaffa one of the oldest ports on Earth) Pyrrha wife of Deucalion who survived the great deluge described in the bible and was the son of Prometheus, grandson of Japheth (Iapetus) and great grandson of Noah. Pyrrha "pyramid" and a funeral pyre, is a structure, usually made of wood and both derive from her name. Perida one of Solomon's servants is mentioned in Nehemiah Chapter 7 Verse 57 and he was also known as Peruda mentioned in Ezra Chapter 2 Verse 55
Thank you 👍 I've read the books of Enoch several times and find it hard not to believe. In his travels through the Heavens he'd seen many things including the one whom God would send. With that, I have discussions with my Christian friends and ask why this isn't know or taught. I know...... it's not cannon. I will read it all again. It's too fascinating. Thanks again.
I started reading it early last year and it’s like the missing part of a puzzle 🧩 as it makes other parts of the Bible make sense to me but most of all it’s made the times we’re living in so real as the end times - the fallen angels that walk amongst us and the explanation for the deciet we are all subject too ! Love 💕 🙏🏻to all my brothers and sisters
It’s not canon NOW, but in Jesus time, they would have been reading about Enoch. It was common teachings then. It was taken out and deemed not scriptural by humans.
you’d think that after all this time, the interplay between humans and the divine would have revealed something “forbidden” or secret or even original. excellent examples of cross connections treading on the divine. i have family still waiting for their “enlightenment”. it’s tragic. thanks again for sharing your journey.
This was my first time coming across your channel and I subscribed within literally under a minute. Your production value and visuals are fantastic! Keep up the great work! I love topics like this about alternative history, religion and mythology. It's fascinating to ponder how it all ties together in our ancient past (and future). Thanks for making this!
@@JR-bx3vk I'm a Christian and studying these things does not dissuade me in my faith. However, there is nothing wrong with seeking out a variety of information in an effort to weave together the bigger picture regarding our past and future. There is little doubt that certain key pieces of information were withheld and left out of the official biblical canon. This was done by men, not by God, in an effort to better control the minds of the people. At the time Jesus walked the earth, The Book of Enoch was extremely popular and was considered mainstream gospel. Why do you suppose they left it out? If you go back and research various mythologies, you'll find that many of them are telling a similar story regarding the Giants/Nephilim (such as the Greek Titans). If you can remove the blinders of what you "should" or "shouldn't" look at, you'll find that many of these ancient cultures were telling similar stories, just with different descriptive colors. It's the sign of a curious and intelligent mind to be able to entertain various perspectives without necessarily taking them on as your own beliefs. Just because I study these things doesn't mean I take them on as my own belief system, but it does often bolster my faith in positive ways. Regardless, I look forward to the day when these mysteries are revealed and we all get to celebrate with God in His triumph of good over evil. In the meantime, I'd encourage you not to judge people before seeking greater clarity on them. Blessings to you... 🙏
That odd because I listened to it for 2 minutes and heard at least 5 lies. Telling a story for clicks is not a great source of knowledge. Look for the truth.
Really enjoyed the timelines of the ancestral lines. Would be cool to dig deeper on that and maybe also correlate with Egyptian Kings list (1st Dynasty) that is also strange. Great video 🙏🏼
Also notice: in sumerian mythology, Enmendurana was the grandfather of Ziusudra (the flood-survivor) while Enoch was the grandfather of Noah. Enmendurana was taken to heaven like Enoch and he was taken by a sun-god (which is a plausible source for the age of 365 years that Enoch lived on earth)
People; Let us understand the world is not the “world” of the remnants of an intergalactic civilization whose home world was destroyed, yet it clearly is. Dinosaurs did not live hear those were the occupants of Tiamat. Mostly they died in space before embedding here, life is the rule it evolves holistically in tandem.❤❤❤
@@siyayvonne7479 Dearest I mean the doom of men is that men forget, we as humans forget the point, the date, the name, the year, forget who we are, where we are, where we’ve been, what we have sworn to remember
I always did actually find the story of Enoch very interesting, it was something I obsessed about for a short time when I first hear about him & that first little mystery in the bible when you realize for the first time everyone named in the list before and after him were clear they died, but not Enoch. I was like, What's that all about!? lol Then I went down the rabbit hole. For me though I think there are very good reasons it didn't make it into the bible because it can easily misdirect & mislead. I see how. Beloved, do not believe every spirit , but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1
So basically, in 3000 years, if someone digs up the Harry Potter books and the screen play of " I Am Legend" they will think we were magical people who were eaten by zombies. Seems about the same.
Why would people carve fairytale story on a rock. Do you know how hard that would be. I don't people was sitting down wasting time carving nonsense on rocks
@@dwaynep7246near the valley of the kings in Egypt, they found a place where the scrap stones were discarded by the masons that built tombs. The scrap stones were covered in carvings of jokes and gossip about who was sleeping with so and so. People did actually just carve random junk into rocks and clay.
I just joined your Patreon. I like getting your researched info and learning so much about the Bible from a very different non-believer POV. Keep up the great work.
The fact that you just said "descended from Cain" shows that you have much to learn. There are 2 Enoch's from the book of Genesis. There is Enoch from Cain. And Enoch from the line of Seth. They are nothing alike, other than sharing a name.
I found your video information very thoughtful as I've never delved into the history of Enoch before. I am encouraged to know that there are other history of biblical characters from the genealogy of the first family. Thank you for sharing and posting.
47:27 There's a definite connection between the Greeks and Jews. Philistine monochrome pottery is related to Mycenaean pottery indicating that there were settlers from the Aegean culture. The parallel between the Titans and the myths of the Nephilim/the Watchers' children is intriguing.
Yes, there is a connection. The Israelites were given the first alphabetical symbols( language) and numbers corresponding with the letters at Jebel El Lawz (mt. sinai) from the hand of God to Moses. It is believed this system, the first of its kind, made its way to Greece via the Phoenicians. If you're interested and would like further clarification on this intriguing and well documented topic, may I suggest you avail yourself of: The Writing of God: Secret of the Real Mount Sinai by Miles R Jones:
Exceedingly riveting and well done. Perfectly narrated by a talented orator/narrator. Full of wonder and questions. Certainly the Earth is a productive world, and has a history stretching back further than we suppose in our limited presumptions, and hosting a population of beings holding amazing strength, talent, good and evil beyond anything we can barely imagine today, we the modern amesiacs.
I had a bit of this. My Bible school was taught that these stories were only to teach us a better way to live. They may not be totally accurate but we get the message. That’s what I got from it.
@@laneneal3510 TBH, I don't really remember anything in particular they said. I'm a daydreamer, we were outside, and I remember always wondering about what the snacks would be that day 😉 But, some of it apparently sank in bc as an adult, after my years long separation from my faith, and having already admitted to myself that I was an atheist, while I was in the hospital and all drugged up on painkillers, I 'remember' screaming at my then boyfriend that he had stolen my Noah's Ark bedding. Poor guy. How do you defend yourself over such an insane accusation?
It's entertaining because it's false most of it is made up right out of the guy's head All of these gods he mentions are false gods mentioned in the Bible several times and shown to be false because God comes against all of them and claims that he is the one and only God and that there is none like him either God is lying or this guy's full of s***
@@laneneal3510either the Bible is telling the truth or it is false either Jesus is who he says he is or he is a lunatic He cannot be both If the Bible says that it was created in 7 days and it took 7 million years to do then that means that the Bible is misleading and incorrect therefore this is the tool the devil is using to eliminate the scriptures from your mind due to your own doubt which is what he planted in the garden
I just wanted to say a big thank you derek! I'm sure you get this a lot. I left Southern baptist Christianity about 3 years ago and kinda just have been wondering aimlessly not sure where to go but your channel has helped me become more confident in denying my beliefs and discovering myself not through the lens of evangelicalism. I have become the healthiest individual I ever have been and have progressed so much more than what I could have when I was being held down by Christianity. I was HEAVILY involved in church and mission trips/etc and it also helps when discussing with my old friends and family as to why I left and where I'm at now. I am more confident than ever leaving Christianity behind and I appreciate all you've done and are doing! Peace.
Leaving christianity is not a big loss but leaving Our Savior Lord Jesus Christ is a big lost for you😔 hopefully you'll realize someday while your still alive that it is not a about the people around the Church but it is all About your relationship with Jesus Christ
@@dolan1110 The social aspects of church, along with its shared beliefs, notions, that which is moral and immoral is a HUGE portion of who people who've spent serious parts of their lives - especially their childhoods, in a Church, defined as being a Baptist child, Methodist child, Catholic child, etc, etc, is a huge loss. That's especially true when the person's friends and family who are also associated with that church shun the person. One cannot be a Christian alone. It ALL involves the group! God promises to be there when 2 or more are gathered in his name.... one, and you are on your own.
@@dolan1110 agree with you. I dont claim anything but being a “Believer” in Jesus Christ because there is no religion mentioned in the Bible. Why??? Because God came to bring His spiritual kingdom knowledge in the flesh for us to inherit eternity, not confusions with denominations. He is the God of truth not confusion… that’s satans work. I will pray that the original poster doesn’t stray away.
PS your thoughts and how you feel and act are either of God or satan… one leads to heaven and the other to hell. So you may feel liberated and happy now but if it is not of God no matter how great you feel, he will tell you he never knew you on judgement day. God bless.
@@dolan1110 No it isn't. Jesus Christ imo was just a man. He wasn't nor is he God. It's mythology based at the center of it just like other writings from long ago. I think you should watch more myth vision and open your mind to the potential fact that Jesus is not who you think he is.
Wikipedia says Uruk was founded around 5,000 BC and survived until the Islamic Era around 700 AD. It was also the original cult center of Inanna (Ishtar/Astarte/Aphrodite.)
The part I loved the most is the Prometheus parallelism. I've always suspected this and have even created a story (which I'll submit to Pixar soon) about Prometheus becoming the Archangel Mahakiel :) Keep it up, you're doing fantastic!
"Yah wants to keep mankind in a state of innocence and without the understanding of the gods " Very interesting statement. One thing I've learned in the last few months from the garden account is to not judge things as good or evil but to recognize what is, life. By letting go of the judgment, I'm free to question, understand and maybe help or tend to the person or situation. My caring is not muddied by a negative judgment or blinded by a positive. I'm still learning, letting go, growing and seeking. Do you believe that our understandings of the garden account are similar?
I respectfully disagree with your premise. " Today, Satan and man have kept mankind in a state of ignorance and without the understanding of the gods and who they actually were." This will change soon. The unveiling has already begun. Also, your comment about not judging things as good or evil is.....ridiculous really. Who established morality? Was it not the God of creation? If we are the product of billions of years of chance and chemicals, you know, rocks to man, then morality really doesn't exist, does it? Only in the mind of man. But, if the creator judges a thing to be evil, is it not evil? If I acknowledge His judgement of what is evil from His word and then call it evil myself when confronted by it, am I in danger of His judgement? No but, I am in danger of Mans' judgement. You're not going to make it sitting on the fence my friend. You need to choose a side and understand that you will be persecuted for it. Especially if you choose Him. take care... "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." Yeshua (Jesus)
@@trompel1 a place of peace has choice even the choice to judge with it's fruit such as loss of peace, death, good and evil. In the story they had a choice to judge/accept others' judgment or to have utter peace same as us.
Some scholars, by the 1890s, had suggested the city called Enoch in the book of Genesis, is recalling Sumerian Unug, later called Uruk. Cf. the following notes: "Apparently the honor for the 'earliest" association of Cain's city of Enoch and its land of Nod with Uruk goes to Professor Sayce (1846-1933) of Oxford University in England (Oxford Professor of Assyriology) who by 1887 had identified Cain's (his Kain) city of Enoch with Uruk, which had been earlier called in Sumerian (his Accadian) Unug (his Unu-ki or Unuk) and the city of Eridu preserving the names of Irad and Jerad, other descendants of Cain: "Its earliest name was the Accadian Unu-ki or Unuk, "the place of the settlement," of which the collateral form Uruk does not seem to have come in vogue before the Semitic period. If I am right in identifying Unuk with the Enoch of Genesis, the city built by Kain in commemoration of his first-born son, Unuk must be regarded as having received its earliest culture from Eridu, since Enoch was the son of Jared, according to Gen. v. 18, and Jared or Irad (Gen. iv. 18) is the same word as Eridu." (p. 185. "The Gods of Babylonia." Archibald Henry Sayce. The Hibbert Lectures of 1887, Lectures on the Origin and Growth of Religion, as illustrated by the religion of the Ancient Babylonians. London & Oxford. Williams & Norgate. 1897, fourth edition. Reprinted by Kessinger Publishers of Whitefish, Montana in paperback) Hastings (1894), in agreement, apparently, with Professor Sayce (1887), that Cain's city of Enoch is Sumerian (Akkadian) Unug or Unuk and Genesis' Jared/Irad is Eridug/Eridu: "...Uruki...a Semiticised from of the older Akkadian name, Unu-ki, Unug, "the city of the land," i.e., metropolis, which, allowing for the guttural pronunciation of the first sign...is an exact equivalent of the Hebrew...Here, then, the first city of Cain is evidently identical with...Unuk...Jared...Irad...is...Eridu...Eri-dugga, "the holy city"..." (p. 353. Vol. 5. James Hastings. Editor. The Expository Times. Edinburgh. T. & T. Clark. Oct. 1893-Sept. 1894)
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I can agree about Christ being the way….he is the way to live in a fantasyland, denying reality, denying science, denying the fact of mortality of all living things - including us. Sorry you have been brainwashed into the cult of religion. Keep watching Mythvision and you might break free! 🫶
The salient fact about Enoch is that he was of the 7th generation. Think of the Sar. Seven periods of approximately 3,600 years to arrive at a new Creation. And the guy gets "taken up" to heaven. Facts that should be of interest to us at the end of the "Creation" that followed. See the Epistle of Barnabas and you will see how God's Holy Week was retained by the sages ... expecting cataclysm for our generation. Among the ancestor worshippers, one of you will be held sacred for having been swept away by the catastrophe of our times. The tree of life (think eagle tree of Enki) with the eagle's nest at the top and the serpent below can be found in the Dresden Codex ... with the eagle eating the soul of the earthly goddess sacrificed*. (Knorozov 3) Note the reptilian bossing around the captive leader in the lower right corner! The interesting thing about Etana is that he is chosen by the eagle to be his new son. You might also enjoy Lugalbanda and the Anzud bird. What I believe you are dealing with are "the gods" ... Enlil was a god of heaven who went to the underworld (like Dumuzi). EnKi (Lord of the Earth) was a god of the underworld who went to heaven. Just as later you can find Enlil the new Wild Ass (Seth?) and Enki giving up the Lordship to his Son Marduk in the South while he is usurped by sleep. In other words, this world turns over from time to time. The red star of the south will rise like the Southern Cross ... as Planet X will fall again like Lucifer in Isaiah 14. The mystery was understood by Dante. In Canto I of the Purgatorio: "To the right hand I turned and fixed my mind on the other pole attentive, where I saw Four Stars (Crux) never seen before save by the ken of our first parents (Adam & Eve)."
As usual, MUCH food for thought. Your fans are grateful that you’re doing all this homework for them! I’m an oldster and I did a dissertation on Joseph Campbell years ago, and read Eisenman’s stuff on The Dead Sea Scrolls to help deprogram myself from Christianity, so I’m familiar with some of this stuff already. You ask the question whether we could think of any parallels between the Greeks and the Bible; I thought of LOTS! Pandora = Eve. Jason and the Argonauts wandering the Aegean = Moses and the Children wandering in the desert. David and Goliath = Odysseus and the Cyclops. David and Jonathan = Achilles and Patroclus. Agamemnon and Iphigenia = Abraham and Isaac. The lost continent of Atlantis = Noah’s flood. Another thing I’ve noticed is that so much of this stuff ends up In Hollywood “hero cycles.” Star Wars, The Road Warrior, even John Wick. And I’ve often suspected that J.R.R. Tolkien used Enoch, along with the Norse Eddas, as “background” for the “theology” in “The Silmarillion.” And it’s surely the case that Hollywood films keep giving us endless reissues of the two Homeric heroes. The lone crazed avenger whose best buddy gets it, and the lovable rogue who outwits his foes and goes back home to the girl he left behind him.
@@mariussielcken Thanks. That slipped my mind. In fact, that contrast had occurred to me years ago, and what also occurred to me was what this said about the monotheisms that derive from Zoroaster - they all do, really - and Greek culture and “The West” that came from it. Lucifer is the bad guy, and you’re not supposed to follow his advice to think for yourself. The way to practice virtue is to just shut up and do as you’re told. Prometheus is the good guy, and what he gives us, knowledge and self awareness, and valuing our freedom, runs totally counter to what religions want for us. Yes, this really is a clash of civilizations. As you may remember, Shelley remarked that Milton was on Satan’s side even if he didn’t know it. That’s why.
I have often thought that Enkidu, friend of Gilgamesh, is a memory of an ancient "wild man of the forest." Perhaps a pre-human species, like maybe H. Neanderthal. You are describing Gilgamesh as a larger than human person. Could he, and giants, be the memory of another ancient pre-human species, say H. Denisovans? Some scientists speculate that Denisovans were larger, perhaps much larger, than our species, H. Sapiens. Thus "giants"? I am convinced that myths in Genesis (e.g. Noah's Flood) date to the end of the last ice age, 12,000 or 10,000 years ago. It is not impossible that some individuals of ancient human species, like Neanderthal or Denisovans, survived into that time! Tus got included in the long oral tradition to ancient Sumeria and writing! Note again, according to Wikipedia, Gilgamesh's home city of Uruk was founded around 5,000 BC, that's 7,000 years ago and "mythically" not that far from the last ice age of 12,000 or 10,000 years ago. It's very obvious that some of the ancient Sumerian, Babylonia & Genesis myths are related to the rise of agriculture (Cain & Able) that replaced the earlier nomads & hunter gatherers that occurred during the period between 12,000 and 7,000 years ago!
Timelines are way out my friend - you are relying too much on the falsity of academia - Velikovsky stated Venus passed Earth and caused the great flood only 3500 years ago.
THERE WERE NEVER CAVEMEN OR ANY ICE AGE. THESE CORRUPT SCIENTIST AND PROFESSOR'S WERE TAUGHT A LIE. A BS. NARRATIVE TO KEEP THIS LIE GOING. MY ADVISE. DIG IN AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!!! BECAUSE WEVE BEEN PLAYED USED CONNED. DUMBED DOWN TO KEEP US TRAPPED AS SLAVES AND TOOLS. LOOK AT THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF LIES AND STOLEN BOOKS. HISTORY. CARVINGS WITH MESSAGES FROM SOURCE. THE CREATOR. AND YET MANKIND WILL FIGHT TO KEEP LIES ALIVE!!! VERY SAD. WE ARE HATED AS WE ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FATHER.
I'm Johnny come late; great video.. This is something I put together yesterday. Deep Reed: i.e. I get Long Winded [= Thoth...]. In the Erra Epic, Marduk specifically asks for the Seven Sages. The cuneiform lists of seven sages (apkallu) present different names in different order. Adapa is a short form of the name of the first primary sage, whose full name was U-an-adapa. U-An is another short form of the name. His figure equals Oannes as the first sage in Berossus’ account. But in the apkallu list of Bit Meseri and elsewhere, Utuabzu/ Utuabba/ Adapa also takes the seventh position. Ada-pa. This is explicitly clear in the name of the seventh sage, Utu-abzu, which here means “born in the apsû,” the water deep under the earth where Ea / Enki ZU, has his abode. In the first two lists in Bīt Mēseri the seventh sage is given this name. In the third list he is called Utuaabba, which is the same as the Sumerian epithet equated with adapu above. In the Ada-pa myth, the seventh sage is said to have ascended to heaven. Also the first sage is related to heaven; he is the light of the god of heaven. Nevertheless, both in Bīt Mēseri and in Berossos all the sages are related to water; they are described as fish-men. the name of the apkallu mentioned is Utuabzu. who comes seventh in a list of apkallus. In another place in the same text, the last of seven sages is Utua-abba, mentioned as one who descended from heaven.“ [Pro 30:4]. The bird-apkallū tends to a sacred tree. Considering the mullilu in his right hand and the banduddu in his left, (tree cone and water bucket), he is engaged in a water ritual intended to sanctify the sacred tree. This is a common motif in Sumerian and Neo-Assyrian idols. The apkallus were also an essential part of the composition Šēp lemutti. Marduk asks, "Where are the Seven Sages of the Apsu, the pure puradu fish , who just as their lord Ea, have been endowed with sublime wisdom?" Anonymous John a.k.a. Oannes, said jesus says, 'no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." Putting forth a Riddle: Speaking a parable to the Christians: A great Eagle [5404 proper name, of deity, Akkadian language "iṣṣūru, Assyrian našru; Akkadian "šapāru," aš-pu-ru. [Describing the Sumerian verb is the most difficult part for the gram- marian. ... zu-lu-un ~ zu-zu-lu-un, su-su-lu-un = ru~~unu "roaring" see CAD.] = e-ru-ú = na-áš-ru apsasû [(AN EXOTIC BOVID)] N (84x) Neo-Assyrian, Neo-Babylonian, Hellenistic, First Millennium "(an exotic bovid); an exotic bovid; figurine of an exotic bovid; sphinx" sapāru [(DEITY'S) NET] N (2x) Neo-Assyrian "(deity's) net" šapāru [SEND] V (144x) Neo-Assyrian "governing; send" iṣṣūru [BIRD] N (397x) Old Assyrian, Old Babylonian, Middle Assyrian, Middle Babylonian, Neo-Assyrian, Neo-Babylonian, Achaemenid, Seleucid, Hellenistic, Uncertain, First Millennium, unknown "bird; duck" nasru [(HOOK OR PEG FOR SUSPENSION)] N (5x) Old Babylonian, Middle Babylonian, Neo-Assyrian "(hook or peg for suspension)" Transliteration nᵊšar, from an unused root meaning to lacerate. The eagle (or other large bird of prey):-eagle Vulture, Griffon-vulture Vulture barbatus Of cherubim in vision Ezekiel 1:10; 10:4. Micah 1:16 seems to compel reference to vulture (on eating fresh carrion by eagles). As renewing youth See related Aramaic BDB entry H5403. H5403 corresponding to H5404; an eagle noun masculine griffon-vulture or eagle. Dan 7:4 - "The first was like a lion, and had eagle's H5403 wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to IT." ([5268 Assyrian god Nisroch corrupt form of Nusku [should read Lord ZÛ]. Nusku is a solar diety "The Great Eagle" An idol of Nineveh worshipped by Sennacherib (king of Babylon) Symbolised by the eagle-headed human figure. I.E. As to the worship of the Eagle, "Most Magnificent")(see Isaiah 34:15; Job 39:29-30;Matthew 24:27-28)], With great wings, long winded, and full of feathers, with diverse colors (Judges 5:30) came into Lebanon and take the highest branch of a Cedar. He cropped off the top of his young twigs and carried it into a land of traffic, into a city of Merchants (Ezekiel 27:16; Hosea 12:7; "She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from Afar" Proverbs 31:14, 18; Revelation18:15, 23). ] He took also of the seed of the land, and planted it in a fruitful field (Genesis 2:8; Jeremiah 11:17, 12:12, 17:8*, 19:10;13); He placed it by Great Waters (ENKI), and set IT as A Willow [6851 Transliteration ṣap̄ṣāp̄â, [See āšipū, exorcists] from H6687; a willow (as growing in overflowed places): H6687 Transliteration ṣûp̄, primitive root; to overflow:-(make to over-) flow, swim. Cause to float Skin-raft is loan-word sapsapā-nu [MOUSTACHIOED] N (5x) Neo-Assyrian, Neo-Babylonian, First Millennium "(a fish)". Fish Apkallū = pure purādu-fish. Oannes appears with numerous names, such as Apkallu, Uanna, and Abgal.Enki, Dagon, Oannes, or Marduk (Merodach).This may be the origin for the custom (common in the ancient world) of affixing horns to the crown of a king. It has also been historically acknowledged as the origin of the miter worn by the Catholic Pope. The Christian Church has always been associated with fish. Christ himself took on that imagery, as did John the Baptist, and the early Christians used the fish sign of the "Ichthys" to designate themselves. The syllable "dag" merely means "fish", which makes it interesting to note that the Dogon tribe of Africa, who have long baffled astronomers with their advanced knowledge of the faraway star-system from which they say their gods came, claim that these gods were "fish-men." Ada]pa ina pîšu išturu, “Adapa wrote according to his mouth. ”Bird Apkallū and Fish Apkallū, the so-called purādu-fish, side by side. Apkallū statuettes of this design were buried in appropriate places in the home of a Babylonian exorcist. They were believed to have prophylactic qualities, guarding the home from evil. The bird-apkallu is represented as a griffin; he has a human body, wings and a bird’s head. Figures of fish-apkallus and bird-apkallus are found in Babylonian Ur and in several of the major Assyrian cities, belong to the guild of the āšipū, “exorcists.], Tree. There was also another great Eagle, with great wings, and many feathers, and behold, this Vine did bear her roots toward him. And shot forth her branches toward him, that he might water it by the furrows of her Plantation .. Now say to the rebellious house, know ye not with these things mean ? Shall he escaped that doeth such things? Or, Shall he break the covenant and be delivered? Ezekiel 17 .. .. .. . Debate topic(s): 1. "Out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the Seven Spirits of God." Debate: Are those Seven Spirits of god in heaven, sent into the earth, the seven Apkallū: the mythological seven "wise men" who were the teachers of humankind? 2. "There are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. The beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition." Debate : seeing the coming of jesus is at the breaking of the sixth seal, and he has received 'no kingdom as yet; but has received power as a king one hour with the beast,' before the coming of the new king of kings; is jesus is sixth Apkallū? Hint: "Before the throne there was a 'sea' of glass like unto crystal:... and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind. And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle. And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. During the reign of Dumuzi a.k.a Tammuz a.k.a Adonis, the shepherd, the king, Anenlilda (the purification priest), was sage.
One of the things I appreciate about Heiser is that he cross references to define key words within the scriptures. For example, originally Satan is not a proper noun. But more of an adjective. So it begs questioning what else do we have false definitions for. And Heiser does a pretty good job at finding other areas of teachings that aren't quite accurate. We need to keep in mind that unless any of us are going to devote our lives to (any of) these studys, we stand on their shoulders. And that any one disagreement does not negate a scholarly master. All any of us can do is get closer to the truth. May Dr. Michael Heiser rest in peace.
I love every story about Gilgamesh, he reminds me of Nimrod, very similar stories. Both Giants, both attributed to the tower of Babel and the building of Sumer, Mesopotamia. What is your thought about him?
In the Nineteenth Century before the days of current "education" where a Marxist professor simply regurgitates what his Marxist professor said before him, people were free to engage in comparative religion and syncretic religion studies - Alexander Hislop The Two Babylons.
@@chrystalblue7170 Based on my research Nimrod and Gilgamesh were not the same person. Noah Enlil Nannar "Suen" "Sun" King Utu-Shamash "Malak-bel" Meshkiangasher King Enmerkar Lugalbanda King Gilgamesh Noah Ham Cush Nimrod King Utu was worshipped by the ancient Canaanites who descend from Canaan the son of Ham. Noah Ham Canaan Inanna would have been a 2nd great grand aunt of Gilgamesh and according to legends she was still alive not only at the time of the birth of King Gilgamesh, but he made it to adulthood in her lifetime. If we accept the long lifespans of the biblical figures, then it makes sense that the other humans that were deified as gods and goddesses described in different legends from around the world also had long lifespans.
Sitchin was not able to fluently read ancient literature. For instance when he says that it reads they came from above, that is not what it says Michael Heiser has several videos out that Sitchin was wrong
Sitchin was a fool who didn't understand a word of the languages he supposes to have translated and 9999/10000 experts in Akkadian and Sumerian can tell you his works are utter drivel.
Was Enoch a descendant of Cain? Thought Enoch was a descendant of Seth through Jared, then realised there is an Enoch fathered by Cain (Gen4:17) and an Enoch father by Jared (Gen5:18), descendant of Seth.
I for a long time have felt that IF I am to follow the old ways it's found in Sumerian ways. I love the attention paid to these most ancient traditions here! I've always identified with Enkidu as my spiritual role model
you identified with a dude made out of clay to be a god-man's friend and then tragically dying because the gods want to punish your god-man friend? cool.
I like this video format. Very interessting. Also interessting the reactions in the comments, between those who feels personaly attacted, the skeptics and those who just like to know more about ancient stories and myths and have nothing to do with religion.
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Also, I've noticed some comments who think I made the mistake of assuming that the Enoch in Genesis 5 which is in the line of Seth is the Enoch son of Cain from Genesis 4. I spoke with a few scholars who understand Pentateuchal studies who said they think the Geneology in Genesis 4 & 5 are two versions of the same genealogy which is why there is confusion. Just as Genesis 1 & 2 are two separate creation accounts.
I sincerely thought I was wrong from reading comments, but it looks like I'm in good company with critical scholars on this one.
Heres a snippet of what Phillologist & Dead Sea Scroll scholar Matthew Monger said,
"They are two different people in the narrative - but it’s so obvious that the descendants of Cain and the descendants of Seth come from the same made up tradition. They are basically the same names. Compare gen 4:17-26 (about Cain) with Gen 5 (about Seth)."
You have definitely carved your own lane in this scholarship of history. 🎉
Favorite part is how you blew 6 minutes on an introduction that I fastforwarded through.
@@samhughes1747 Not everyone is a genius like you
@@MythVisionPodcast , 1, that was extremely rude of me, 2, nice self-emoji, 3, I was like, "Dude! Get to the good stuff!", 4, Once we finally got there, I legit loved the material. It was really interesting how many parallels there were between Enoch and other regional myths. Your connections between Enoch and Titans made me think of how Adam and Eve were supposed to be hundreds of feet tall in some extra-biblical jewish and christian writings. Between W. O. E. Oesterly and Irving Finkel, I'd long taken it as a given that most Hebrew myths were borrowed from cultures around them, and it was really cool to see connections to some of the more obscure myths I hadn't heard of.
Oh for a world where organized religion didn't purge a thousand years of writings, history, and folklore!
Thanks Sam, I was being a bit jabby as well and meant nothing bad by it, because many people need to be guided on where we're at and why before I dropped the nuggets on them.
This is an excellent, inclusive history of Abrahamic religions. Wish every believer would listen to this with an open mind. 👍
It’s crazy how people who don’t know Christ and truly walk with him. Will always look at it as fiction. There are unexplainable things in my life. I’m a witness I know God.
Many say the same about Allah the one true God of whom Mohammed was the last holy prophet, or the Hindu Gods, or Zoroaster. So, you understand their perspective.
I know God as well ... he's a helluva golfer.
Yeah, that's the crazy bit...
People are so convinced their god is the one true God, they have sacrificed their children and themselves to Him. Belief is THAT powerful 😮
You are indoctrinated to told those inepties and no you don't know Yahweh ... The fictional psychopath monster planetary killer who never chose to teach and educate his minions instead he always chose kill and massacre people.
Thanks for this discussion. Some of the Irish myths and legends speak of giants, warriors and challenging gods. Ageless people and knowledge in the salmon are also there. Thanks again😇🙏
Eigh, and then the tales of the Tuathadeldanon!
@@NarenLumpkin tuathe de dannan
in many of those stories the words translate as wise or powerful but people have chosen giant, just as the menehune in Hawaii is understood as little people but in antiquity they were peasants, of lower class.
Almost every culture has “myths” like those.
Thanks!
You should also know that Enoch is one of three who never died. The Roman Catholic Church removed his books in 400AD. Only two churches kept his books in their Bible. One is even in Ethiopia.
Enoch, Elijah, and ?
Ishua
@@zweisteinyaHe died on the cross and was resurrected.
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You see me you the father the father and I are one no man sees the father unless he, come through me kingdom of Yahweh comes be severed not to severe those those who desire to be served will become a servant of all father be came the son are salvation are way are truth are ark are covenant, are eternal glory . Simon who's is called Peter ,whom the Lord loves, the Jewish Nation the Israelites I like Peter , I'm fear rejected 3 *aren't you one of them that were with him you asking Israelite today Yeshua Messiah. Is there's they have denied like Peter they will be forgiven when finally they cry out. He said his disciples that one stone should be upon another no Stone in place it will be dislodged and cast down when he was talking about the temple though in the last days you is shall be erected and the abomination that is desolation will set in place where the Lord has consecrated is consecrated . The heart which is the soul being filled with his spirit .To be worshiped""' the lord, yeshua saying to Simon you'll be the rock upon which I build my church and why the Israelites 3 day a day to Yahweh 1000 years we just entered the early morning of this Third day with the millennium Mary Magdalene and Mary the three women arose out early that morning from the tomb early that morning Peter to the rock upon which I build my Temple like Peter the Israelites Israelites represent him for he denied him I like a rock their hearts were they are the first servants movie the foundation make up that Temple the stones gather from the four corners of the Earth the temple without the cornerstone the stumbling block in Zion . Cannot be completed . The hearts the mind soul he made consecrated Yeshua Messiah all glory and praise.let be one it done through he said it's finished in to I commend my spirit those that him glory to Yeshua are yahovha Yahweh everlasting let it be done.
I am Ethiopian, and I believe our Bible is the only one that never excludes Enoch.
Name of your Bible?
Ethiopian Bible written in gaez,an either Aramaic or Semitic inspired African script @@AntoninusPius17
You are right, The book of Enoch always remained in Ethiopian canon bible and never changed anything.
@@AntoninusPius17 it's simply part of the biblical canon under Ethiopian Orthodox/Tewahedo, which is longer-running than any European Catholic or Orthodox. It's something I've been wanting to look into the history of.
You would believe correct ,in fact the Ethiopian Bible is the only book that contains all four gospels and every book in the Bible .
This new format is truly amazing , the quality graphics and presentation is spot on .
Whichever biblical topic you pick Derek you sure do it justice for the sake of the truth .
I like the format and find the content very interesting, but if I may critique it a bit, I would add that maybe Derek could experiment with finding a way of injecting some pauses, maybe short burst of music, or maybe repetition, or query, or a reaction, something to break up the speed of the flow of information. The content is so packed, that a pause at some points would enhance understanding. Some books you read at a fast pace without putting them down, and others you take a bit at a time. I have never played cricket, but I can tell if the pace is fast, slow, moderate or very fast.
You are absolutely correct , a few scattered pauses here and there would enhance ones understanding of the story .
There are two Enoch's. The Enoch of the Cain line is not the one who was from Seth's line. Seth's line Enoch is who the book is written about, He walked with God.
Like there are many gods? If that makes you feel exclusive.
Book 1 of Enoch line of Seth, book 2 and 3 line of Cain.
That Enoch turns into metatron
@@youngflyboss7875huh?
@@johnbee4557read the book of Enoch, he is the only man to ever become an angel. That angels name, like this guy just stated, is Metatron. He's right bro.
"Dear God, I come to you with a heart full of gratitude for the blessings you have bestowed upon me. Thank you for the abundance of resources you have provided, including financial blessings. I ask for your continued guidance and wisdom in managing these resources responsibly and using them to fulfill my purpose in serving others and spreading love and compassion in the world. Amen."
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Off your head mate
TY for this, amen
Amen Ra?
Why the tip of the cap to the Egyptian Amen Ra at the end of your prayer. Seems odd. Christians use this without even understanding. The Jews picked this up in Egypt and now it’s used in Churches all over the west. Same Christians think 12/25 is Jesus birthday and that Easter is a Christian holiday.
One of the best, if not THE best doc I've watched in a year of research on history, pre-history and mythology. Many trains of thought have either left the station...or had their routes extended. Thank you.
Thank you!
Another great chapter to an amazing series!
Indeed it is!
Thank you bro! Your work is an inspiration to this ongoing series.
Derek's been working HARD. Love this series!
Thank you sooooo much!
Scorpio is the eagle, Etana is Ophiuchus, next door to Sagittarius, playing the roll of Athena and the Far Shooter, The 3 constellations associated with the Golden Gate of the Gods, the center of our galaxy, where stars are born, who the ancient people called gods. The Archer, far shooting with a silver bow. The god of healing who taught man medicine. The god of light. The god of truth, who can not speak a lie. His twin sister is Artemis. He is the god of music, playing a golden lyre. Pallas Athena, Goddess of Strategic Warfare, Wisdom, Handcrafts and Arts. Pallas derived from the Greek word pallô meaning "to brandish (a spear)". Pallas was a Goatish god, Athena made her arm guard out of his skin, the one that holds the Spear. PALLAS was the Titan god of battle and warcraft. He was the father of Nike (Victory), Zelos (Rivalry), Kratos (Cratus, Strength) and Bia (Power) by Styx (Hatred), children who sided with Zeus during the Titan-War.
Sagittarius is where you find Spiculum, meaning Spear, a little bloody red spot, you find the Sun at on the Day of the Winter Solstice. The first Doctor was the Dog Headed Goddess Bau/Gula, the She Goat, the Harp(Lyra) Star Vega, directly above Ophiuchus. A doctor would use a Speculum to look where babies come from, Sagittarius is the hips and thighs, Scorpio is the sexual organ, Ophiuchus, like the hidden 13, is the womb, which carries Damu "the Child", the Dying and Rising god of Healing, Son of Pabilsag.
Both Pabilsag and Damu names are associated with each other, Sumerian word Pabil means 'ancestor or relative'. In combination with the final element sag, meaning 'chief or foremost', Damu should be translated as "blood," and refers to the concept of a deified kinship, a "brother" or "relative".
If you play the words "Say There Is A Guest" in reverse, you hear it echo Sagittarius, or "Her Message" to echo December, and "Her Bid One, Wise Quotes" will echo "Scorpio, November", played in reverse, and for Ophiuchus, I find two words, for the two ways people pronounce the name, you'll like them both, "Seek Reefer" and "Sacred Aether", would that be smoke from the reefer.
Sagittarius is shaped like a Teapot. The bloody red spot Spiculum played in reverse will echo Mother Cups, the Grail. You find it by drawing a line from the Eye of Sagittarius to the Red Heart of Scorpio "Antares", the echo heard playing "She Raise Dead" in reverse.
That was only the Golden Gate of the Gods, there is also the Silver Gate of Man, between them is the Gate Keeper, the Setatna, "He who knows the Way".
Source? Very interested , do you believe Jesus? What do you think about religion, you got me interested, what religion is this?
@@KargoskiTheMessiah Sorry for taking so long, TH-cam had me on a 24 hr. timeout, ha ha ha The article below, might of gave me my timeout, Timeout started after I posted it, on Neil's channel, Derick's buddy, I'm removing the URL, but everything list should bring it up in a search.
There are no Sources for my work on reverse speak, as for the Gold and Silver Gates, I believe those are well known, plenty of information on the web about them. I did notice in that comment a part that I must of copied and pasted, from "The Archer to the "children who sided with Zeus during the Titan-War". That's not my writing, had to of copied it, from where I have no clue, sorry, try highlighting a phrase and running a search for, It's how I find much of my info.
You might like this, I came across it today (Yesterday), that is older comment, when I hadn't found the 3rd thigh, Orion and Sagittarius are two, the Big Dipper of Ursa Major is the 3rd, read this
THE COSMOLOGY OF THE SUMERIANS
Author(s): H. Radau
Source: The Monist , October, 1902, Vol. 13, No. 1 (October, 1902), pp. 103-113
Published by: Oxford University Press
It seems to be talking about September being an importin date the Festival of Bau, only mention at the end of the article, Bau-Gula is the She Goat Vega. September 4th to 8th is the Planetary alignment, all the visible planets align with Spica, the hand star in Virgo, the 8th is the first day of the new moon, on the last day of the alignment, the 8th is Mary's birthday too. You'll see why after reading that article. about 12 pages long, but full of eye openings information.
The 7 main star of Ophiuchus forms a mountain, on Christmas day at 12:00, Ophiuchus, although unseen, takes up the whole southern sky, at 12:00 noon Vega, the Dog Headed Goddess Bau-Gula is the Mid-Heaven Star.
I do believe there was a Jesus, not sure if his name was Jesus thou, religion is based upon Faith, I have faith god is real, and always watching, from "Beyond the Mist", played in reverse "Gemini", Twin or Two sides, you'll understand if you read that article.
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Just as was wondering if this video's content was an astrological tale - you provide the answer - thank you
You find the Golden Gate of the Gods behind Sagittarius, the center of our galaxy, where stars are born, they called gods, Sagittarius was known as Pabilsag, the father of Damu, the dying and rising god of healing. The Silver Gate of man is found between Gemini and Taurus, Orion and his Club standing in the Center, Orion was known as Sah, “Sahu the Hidden One”, in Sumerian, ‘sah’ means “pig”, ‘sahu’ means “Boar”, and Damu was known as The Swine, seen as the head of Draco, the Egyptians called Draco Taweret, the goddess of Rebirth, also known as Reret “The Sow”, she was known as the wife of Seth (Set), the 7 stars we call the Big Dipper, Thigh of the Bull’s Leg, the thigh is associated with the Lions, both Osiris and Seth were referred to as Boars.
The Gates can speak, play the words “Her Message-Say There Is A Guest” in reverse, they echo “Sagittarius-December”, now play “Say Oath-They All Rule-Beyond The Mist”, in reverse they echo “Gemini-Orion-Taurus”. Next to the Bull Slayer is the Gate Keeper, play the words “Her Mithras-Boy/Girl” in reverse, it echoes “Virgo-September”, Virgo is the Latin word for Virgin, ‘vir’ is Latin for Man, ‘gyne’ (gin) is Greek for Woman. now play “Way-I’ll Open It-So They Go-See God” in reverse, they echo “August-Regulus-Denebola-Leo”. Lions speak through the tips of their tails, what’s in their heart, when the Lioness is on the hunt, Regulus is the Heart, Denebola is the Tip of the Tail of Urgula, the name of Leo the Lion, Urgula means Great Dog, mother of Damu was known as Bau-Gula, mother of gods, goddess of Dog’s, the She Goat star we call Vega, the Harp Star. Polaris was known as The dog’s Tail, Earth is tilted 23.4 degrees towards Polaris, 23.4 degrees the other side points towards Vega, our old Pole Star 12,000 years ago. Twin stars links both gates, the meaning of their name is “First Born”. When its at midheaven, it takes 7 hours to fall, replaced at midheaven by Vega. You find it by placing the star at the tip of Orion’s Sword on the Western horizon, Orion plowing Gaia, leaving his Haya, meaning Grain/Seed, a word hidden in the name of that star, read backwards in Hebrew, Hatysa means “Savior of Sinner”, in Hebrew, ‘yasa’ means “Savior”, ‘hata’ means “to Sin”. You find Alula at midheaven in December and again 9 months later, 9 months 7 hours, the month of September.
Haya is the god of Scribes, known as the Door-Keeper, the husband of Nisaba, goddess of Grain, the Star Spica, found in Virgo.
Starting on September 4th, the planetary alignment begins, the last day you see the old moon. the 5th it goes dark for 3 days, on the 8th when you see the Moon again, it will be Mary's birthday, mother of Jesus.
All the planets resonate with the number 7, even our sun, that dances like Shiva, that's Hebrew for Seven, my favorite number, twin sevens even better, Shiva dances like our Sun, it's tilted 7 degrees, at it's equator, a 25 day spin, 2+5=7, the poles of the Sun spin much slower, 35 days each, 35+35=70, a point on the 7 degree tilted Sun takes 79 years to complete one full rotation, and a 79 year cycle is seen when Mercury and Mars are together like twins, next to each other, Mercury retrogrades 22 times every 7 years, having a 88 day year, 8+8=16, hiding a 7, which the number of Triangle Mercury makes every 7 years, each retrograde takes place 120 degrees from the last, after 3, a triangle can be outlined, another 7 is found in the number of days Mercury has every Earth year, Mercury has 6 days every Earth year, but if you count Mercury's mid-day double sunrise, it makes 7 days, and the 7 is found with Mars as well, Mars retrogrades 70 to 79 days, loops around the Sun and back to the same spot in 707 days, conjuncts with Venus 3 times in 9 months, on a 77 month cycle, and Venus retrogrades 43 days every 77 weeks, 7 weeks hidden behind the Sun, a Jupiter year is 11.86 years, 11+86=97, that equals 16, a Saturn year is 29.5, equals 34, all the way out to Pluto, 124+124=248, a Pluto year, 1+2+4=7. Whose movement is in the shape on an egg, it takes Pluto longer to get around the Silver Gate of Man, between Gemini and Taurus, where Orion stands in the center, and shorter time to get around the Golden Gate of the Gods, between Sagittarius and Scorpio, behind Sagittarius is the center of our galaxy, where stars are born, out of the black hole, Sagittarius is the hips and thighs, which holds your butt, where you find another one, ha ha ha
The first comment needed to be updated, a little bit more of what I'm working on, hope you enjoy.
I love this set of comparative videos you have been sharing recently. They are informative with a plethora of resources given. Thank you
Such fascinating information Derek, and you must explore the origins of the Sumerian people, and where they got the idea of writing down these stories!
I'd love to cover that topic at some point with experts as well.
I propose Satan and the fallen angels. They moved around and AKKADIANs and others just to conceal their influence among humans. js
@@bankhead1 plagiarism is a fairly new concept, I liken it to borrowing in order to make a whole new tale!
@@emreisthle606 Satan and the fallen angels didn't come about til later in the time line.
@@jeneb52 thank you for responding. The Creation happened and The One called Lucifer before in Heaven and then later Satan, the Devil had already lost his rebellion in Heaven and was cast out by Michael and the Host of Elohim defeated them. So please give me your reasoning for dating this prior to that event, please & TY. FUNFACT: No precursor to the script that Sumerian peoples used. Curious your thoughts? This world has been fashioned (i.e. Cultural and literal structure of civilized life) after all that sprang up from this enigmatic society. Law, writing, surgery, invetro pregnancy, genetic manipulation, advanced mathmatics, engineering, metalurgy, medicine, library, university, recording, domestication, agriculture, Doctors, lawyers, science, WE ARE their prey. Science today is SCIENTISM, a cult with no connections to the scientific method. js YHWH IS MY LORD
Excellent video Derek. Easy to follow, concise and story well told. I could easily see it being recommended to laymen with little knowledge of ancient mythologies.
This channel needs to dedicate much more time to the religions of ancient Mesopotamia. Because they are 1. An area most of humanity at large knows nothing about and 2. Are the bedrock of the religions that came after the Bronze Age Collapse, like Judaism for example. It is based on Mesopotamian religions that had been in the levant for thousands of years.
I liked your comment. My thought has been that Judaism came after the Bronze Age collapse - probably because of it - but the Mesopotamian religions are earlier. This may explain the reversal in roles between biblical and Mesopotamian myths, and the Hebrew preoccupation with false idols. I haven’t read very much about this.
As long as these videos in this series do really well, I'd be happy to continue down this path. This kind of content takes alot of time to produce and edit.
One million percent agree. Christians need to realize that their religion is only set apart by the fact that it had a genius mass marketer in Paul. There is literally nothing else unique about it.
Learning about all the National/Empire movements before and during and after the Bronze Age Collapse really helped me understand a lot of things against Bibliolatry and pro-wider awareness of context.
@MythVisionPodcast We appreciate all of the time and effort you put into these videos and educating people on the origins of these religious myths, Derek.
If only we could educate all Abrahamic believers about this.
This channel is so good!!! Thanks ❤❤❤❤❤
This was fantastic ..im going to watch again and watch all of your videos .!! Thank u so much..just the chan I've been looking for it thank you
Well done! This was a great listen while working and will be added to my night time listening.❤
Thanks for listening
There are two Enoch one son Cain, the other son of Jared from the seed of Seth, son of Adam. Enoch, the scriber, is the seed of Seth. The man that became an angel and Prince in heaven.
Agree...this is what im going to comment, the two enoch...becoz in his introduction he emphazise the enoch descending from cain...its not the enoch who walk with God.
@@arnzsay87 yes my brother
Thanks for making that clear
Believers will be few amongst the world of sin
The point ist that his origin is in mesopotamia.
His actual story is completely different.
I just want to say Derek that you are doing a very good job reading this. A mispronunciation a couple of times but very easy to overlook. I’m half way through this with you right now but thought you should be given a couple of thumbs up on your job right now. 👍👍,
David
Thank you very much!
One person read the whole thing? It sounds like Matthew LA Croix in the beginning and then the voice changes at 15.40ish.
Absolutely divine and informative. I think this is the first video I've seen from you!
Hi. Great video! I think you are mostly in the right track. Thanks👍
I would never claim to know everything, even after living over half a century. One thing I do know is, anyone who tells you that you are inherently bad, because of the mere fact of your existence, is lying to you. Especially some guy in a funky bathrobe who passes around a deep-dish plate for you to put money in.
The Roman Empire tax.
We are inherently human. God made us. He made us to be...not to be good or bad, just to be, because he could or because he wanted to, who knows? They were given life and told here is your food. They were, well, innocent, not good, not evil. When a person goes against what God says, intentionally or accidentally, I changed that person. We learn and or are changed by everything we do, one way or another. That's called experience. With experience we learn and grow and are changed. We they disobeyed God, for which there were consequences, they were changed beyond understanding. But let's say their DNA was changed or evolved if you prefer. And now because of that first sin of yours and my ancestors. We are all the glasses full of water with just that drop of black ink. Because if you add one drop to clean water, do you have clean water? No. And then if you diluted that inky water through generations and generations and generations...is that as clean as the first cup? Once you add that darkness there is no way to take it out. Only the grace and mercy of God can remove that little bit of ink from our souls. The real problem was that, no soul, with even the tiniest bit of that stain of sin. It's a stain because it's not my sin but it's still there. Its still real. No soul, with any kind of sin attached to it could enter into heaven. And no human no matter how Godly could manage to live a perfectly righteous life. Then enters Jesus of Nazareth. The true son of God. The son of man because his mother was human. The Christ or savior of mankind. The only person that has ever been able to live a completely holy life, and only able to because his father, is God. If he had two human parents he would have been like any other human who had failed to be righteous enough to get into heaven. Our capacity to love is what makes us not evil. Our choices in life are what make us further away from the truth and our God. Without Jesus we would have continued to have no way to get to heaven unless God himself came and plucked us from the earth by hand. If you read all this then my thanks. I praise and pray to God alone. But I can give thanks to my saviour Jesus. He who saved me from myself walking a line through life with no thought of the true meaning of life. Amen
I have another theory on the sources of these mystical experiences. I've had an NDE, and most ancient religions, could be seen as ways to describe what I saw. The problem comes in, when others, who have not had these experiences, start manipulating the story to suit themselves.
I agree after my NDE it was as if unknown knowledge just downloaded, and the ancients were obsessed with death, there's def a connection.
In the same vein please have Paul Wallis on the show and hear his take on what the Old Testament was all about originaly. A guarantied field day for all. +100k subsribers, congratulation ! I was around years ago at the begining. Well done !
Thank you for the comment. I'm not sure who this guest is you speak about.
@@MythVisionPodcast He's been an Anglican priest for 30+ years and now he has his own TH-cam channel called The 5th kind with close to 1M subs. He is a scholar and a writer, but above all his take on the old Hebrew texts, Enoch, the Elohims, Mesopotamia, Judaism's switch to monotheism, the Annunakis and much more, is incredibly enlightening.
@@somejohndoe3004 sounds amazing. Gonna go sub there!
"SERIOUSLY"?????????? "IT", WAS", "ALL ABOUT", "TOTAL BULLSHIT".
paul wall the rapper from texas?
Great work, good tone, correlations were 👌 liked and subscribed ❤
Thankyou - excellent production & researched info -
Great stuff. Consider doing a live stream, so others may ask further questions for clarity. - ty, Aesir -
Noted!
I approve this. Brilliantly done. Much appreciated for all the hard work.
Thank you very much my friend.
Seriously good work my friend. You obviously put all of yourself into these episodes, and it shows. Thanks for the education. 😊
I like your content. Very informative. 🙏😊
I appreciate that!
Great video. Just subscribed and looking forward to watching the rest of them. Thank you 👍
Y’all need to read and understand pray about what you don’t understand, and pray and about what you will understand, surrendering expectations yields realization.❤Your buddy Inkey
This is high quality work. Much appreciated
Thank you very much my friend.
Mesopotamian myths are by far the most fascinating to me. So much of modern religion has its origins there it’s crazy
Exactly! It really is crazy!
According to another version of this myth, Adapa is the son of Enki, this is the reason he could do what he did with the south wind. Anu wanted to meet his grandson, that’s how Adapa went to Nibiru and back. Definitely the story of Enoch, as he was given a tour of Nibiru.
Reads more like the story of Adam to me, if you discount the "sole founder of the human race" role
Talk about drinking the kool aid.
@@travistanoos5058 said the cool aid drinker 😅
Great Job. Thank you for this episode.
Glad to find this content Derek, I followed you here via your Dr. James Tabor interviews re: Paul & Jesus, thanks for this and those, excellent production values and a welcomed synthesis of History, Religion, Myth & Biblical studies.
Thanks for your work and putting these topics out there for further pursuit by a larger audience.
Great job Derek, thank you so much for what you do and for putting real factual knowledge out there
I appreciate that!
Factual knowledge!?!?!
Subjective hogwash at best.
The Hindu high God VISHNU also rides on the back of an eagle. This eagle is a demigod named Garuda (from where an Indonesian airline got its name). Garuda is the mortal enemy of all snakes, celestial or otherwise.
It's ironic because Vishnu sleeps on a bed of divine serpents.
Very interesting comment, thank you for highlighting this.
Mexican flag has that symbol as well...I find it ironic or interesting because I heard from my mother and grandmother that the Aztecs who settled in Mexico or those particular races actually came from India into Mexico through canoes. And across the Bering straight, guided by a spirit that told them that they would find a great land once they found an Eagle devouring a snake. And that when they came to what now modern day Mexico city that they saw exactly what the vision foretold and they built up Mexico's ancient modern city into an empire.
@@dannylo5875. Fantastic. Thanks.
@@christinearmington the real relationships and resemblances are too uncanny not to be accidental...
We Gowda Saraswat Brahmins were abiding on the banks of a river Saraswati now believed to be gone mystic,she is wife of Supreme Creator Bramha and goddess of knowledge in a form of river Saraswati believe theory of Karma .. what you sow shall you reap..
Only Giant we know is Ghatotkach.. a child born when Lord Aanjaneya (Hanumanji), a lifetime bachelor flew to Lanka and his perspiration drops fell in the sea and gulped by a female crocodile..try Google for hindu immortals and the reasons for them getting grant of immortality by the lord..
Do visit Mana village, the end of upper India.. the origin point of Maa Saraswati, they say it's gateway to heaven.. many people have tried to venture beyond this point but vanished or turned insane... Google it
There are many types of snakes in our mythology and Vasuki with 5 heads had requested Lord Mahavishnu to be his comfort when the lord is resting.. and the lord has ordered Garuda not to harm snakes.. who are trying to survive.. themselves..
in rural India people kill a snake as soon as we see it.. but forget that in monsoon their lives become hell with water filled in their homes...
I am from lineage of one of the 7 sages- Guru Vashistha..
You can Google and see sapta rishi constellation.....
I'm glad you mentioned the Watchers and the Nephilim because Christians love to dismiss this passage as the "sons of God" just being the human sons of Seth, instead of what's actually defined in the book of Enoch as beings who are supernatural in origin. This shares so much in the Mesopotamian myths of the Annunaki and the Gilgamesh stories, which Christians want to deny has no connection at all to Genesis. Clearly not so.
I think you might have an error on one point- Enoch, the one who journeyed into Heaven and such, was descended from Seth. There was another Enoch, son of Caine, in the Genesis narrative, but he wasn't connected to the supernatural experiences of the Sethian Enoch, as far as I know.
I noticed the disconnection from Enoch being a son of Seth also. Thanks for mentioning it! I would like more about this concept of Enoch being a son of Cain also. As I've always understood Enoch as being of the third line from Adam as well!
Seth was the name of Set, the god of chaos, who you could say, did some Sin, the name of the Moon god, which the Moon cycles with the rhythm of females.
If you play "New Womb" in reverse, it echoes "Moon". Would the Watchers be the Nephilim, play "Moon Friend" in reverse, it echoes "Nephilim". If you Watch the Moon, you see that it's rhythm is 7, where in the center, Eve hides, between the S'N, play "Sin Eve" in reverse, you hear it echo "Venus", doing the same with "Seven", you hear it echo "Novus", meaning New, something, Shiva do, in Hebrew Shiva means Seven, the number of weeks Venus spends behind the Sun, which is tilted 7 degrees, giving it that little Shiva Dance. Both Venus and the Moon are tide-locked with Earth. The observed spin-orbit resonance of Venus, whereby the same side of Venus faces the Earth at each inferior conjunction, retrograding 40-43 days, in the same 5 zodiac signs. Located at 40 degrees N. Lat. by 331 Long. is a Pyramidal crater, with an Eye in the center, at the bottom of the pyramid, it looks like it's weeping, I call it Jeanne the Weeping Eye of Venus, when let out of her bottle, caused a little chaos.
The bible I know has a bad Enoch and Good Enoch...and it seems old testament writers wrote about it.
You are correct. Enoch from the dead sea scrolls was not from the line of Cain. However please be careful generalizing "Christians" . I am a Christian and am very familiar with Enoch and believe it is very important to be familiar with.. It is quoted in the New Testament even ,which Christians view as the inspired Word of God so idk how some Christians are so dismissive of it.
@@dustinmartindale7482 like it begs to ponder. Was it the one Enoch from the line of Cain or Able. And who actually had these spiritual revelations or what actually or who summoned God or wrote down these visions. Could be another deity or elohim (being of shining white light) we don't know for certain which of the two Enochs write the Prophecies that the apostles later were used. It could have been under some ritual and not God that they got their revelations.
11:20 I understand that things on stone will last longer than paper-like materials, but how would anybody know that the stone tablets are the “original” works or know anything is an original work for that matter? Sounds like a faith based claim.
Thank you; very interesting & informative.
Fantastic content.
I've always found it fascinating that the major pagan pantheons around the world are pretty much parallel duplicates. From Egyptian to old Norse, from Greco-Roman to Sumerian the similarities are stark and obvious.
The Nag Hammadi and Dead sea scrolls are some of the most intriguing I've had the privilege to read.
Keep up the great work my friend.
Thank you my friend ❤
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@@OneLifeToLive_777 It's hard not to smile seeing that many smiles. Hope you have a great day.
@@J.William78 did you get it? what you talking about?
@@johncorner4179get what
There are two Enochs in Genesis and I think you've mixed them up. One was a descendant of Cain, the other a descendant of Seth. There's no indication that they refer to the same person.
Also, you seem to be under the impression that Genesis is post exile. The book of Enoch was written much later, in Hellenistic times, but Genesis is pre-Neobabylonian. There are different sections of Genesis, like the foundation legends and genealogies in the first 10 or 11 chapters, then the biographies of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph in the other 40 or so chapters. The genealogies themselves are not found in the dead sea scrolls because all the copies of Genesis found there are were very damaged, and the fragments have not been able to be reassembled as of yet. The DSS don't represent the dating of any old testament documents, just the oldest extant manuscripts.
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Bro, he wasn't defending the Bible as a holy scripture. He is just verifying some points😅
@@timeformegamannot the point if you're going to verify something make sure it's accurate
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He was not trying to make an argument for the legitimacy of what the texts actually say. I am not sure what you even mean.
Hoorah - someone who knows scripture, well done for noticing!
@@timeformegaman yeah, but saying Enoch - the raptured historical figure from the line of Seth - was in fact Cain's son is like saying that Moses was King Sargon
I have long been familiar with the Greek myths and the lore of Enoch, but I have never noticed the similarities that you mentioned. On the other hand, most of the Sumerian lore you relayed was new to me. Additionally, it had never thought it strange that people within the same empire might share stories. It is one thing, though, to have a general sense of sharing; your description of how the stories were passed on with the teaching of the Aramaic language makes a lot of sense. It is nice to have a specific mechanism for this common lore. I am impressed!
Thank you & I'm glad my video was educational for you.
Greek (and Rome) myths have their roots in egypt.
Do not be MISLEAD IT'S ALL NONSENSE MYTHS.
@@constantinatanita1687maybe, maybe not.
The Arabic version of Anun is a variant of the name Anan, which means “cloud" and this is why in Sumer Noah was known as the sky god Anu the ancestor of the Anunnaki (It doesn't mean there isn't Anunnaki who live somewhere in space) and Hopi Anu-naki means “ant friends" and Hapi based on my research the founder of the Hapiru tribe of Babylon and Hopi tribe of America was the son of Horus and Qebehsenuef another son of Horus married his cousin Kebechet the daughter of Anubis and Quebec is named for them and Bêche Nutraceutical Company is utilizing her short name and beche-de-mer which is boiled, dried, and smoked flesh of sea cucumbers used to make soups and even though Sea Cucumbers are found in different waters of the world this company according to its own claims teams up with Canadian fishermen who harvest wild Sea Cucumber off the East Coast of Canada and even the river Thames was known as the Isis river in the past and Isis was the wife of Osiris and the word Dura an anagram of Ziusudra is the outermost of the 3 meninges pronounced məˈninjēz and Ningal where we get the word "Ninja" was the daughter of Enki and mother of Ishtar where the word "star" derives from and where we eventually get the English nursery rhyme "Star Light, Star Bright" and the father of Ishtar was Nannar "Suen" where we get the word "Sun" and he was the son of Enlil who was known as the ancestor of the Enlilites as in "lights" and the word Bright is pronounced brīt and Min "Lord of the eastern desert" is where the word "men" derives from and he was the son of Osiris and brother of Horus and Anubis and the ingles in the word meninges as in English is pronounced ˈiNG(ɡ)liSH and the word "baby" as in Babyland as in Babylon and the baby sound “ga ga ga” is what is known as reduplicated babbling and the connection to the Tower of Babel and is connected to confusion of tongues or a confusion of sounds or voices.
The Amori (Amorites) descend from Emer the son of Canaan and grandson of Ham and they worshipped a god called Amurru also known as Martu a spelling variation of the name Marduk and the ancient Incans descendants of Enki (Enkais) worshiped a god called Amaru and ancient Greek Gigantes contains Giges a spelling variation of Gigas "giant" and "Antes" as in Andes Mountain founded by King AE. T N. IY D. EY also known as "Andy" the ancestor of the Andeans of South America and the ancient kingdom of Kuga-Ki which is named for Ningikuga and her husband Enki and the Hebrew GOD was known as "Ancient of Days".
I want to add that the Katkari is an Indian tribe in Maharashtra and the Amaru also known as Katari an ancient serpent or dragon that the Incan people worshipped (It could have been a king that was wearing some type of jewelry with a serpent or dragon symbol, and the symbol associated with Enki was the entwined snake which represents the DNA double helix and Marduk was known as the "snake-dragon" and his wife was called Sarpanit a spelling variation of "serpent" and snakes were called dragons in the past and according to legend Mušḫuššu was a dragon (snake) owned by the sun god Marduk and one of the symbols of Enlil was the "Winged Sun" and he named one of his sons Suen and his son King Utu Malak-bel was worshipped as a sun god in the ancient city of Sippar and he was also worshipped by the names Moloch and Baal by the ancient Canaanites that descend from Canaan the son of Ham.
The connection to Peru and the Peruvians and Perun worshiped by the ancient Kievan Rus who descend from Rushash the son of Tyrrhenus and grandson of Japheth and the surname Peruničić derives from his name Perun and what is very interesting is there is a tribe called Mashco-Piro and there was an ancient Sumerian king named Mashkakatu King of Kish the son of Ziu-sudra King of Babel and Shurrupak and his father was called Urbara-Tutu.
The Cockatoo bird and the connection to the Sumerian king Mashkakatu and here are some other spelling variations kaketoe derives from Malay kakatua and I wonder if that is a spelling variation of Krakatoa.
Malay derives from the names Mara and her daughter Lia the ancestors of Emzara who married Noah and Ley line is pronounced ˈleɪ ˌlaɪn as in lea lain and is named for Lia “Lea" means "glade" or "open meadow" and the ancient Chinese called them Dragon Lines according to them when the lines cross each other their energy spirals into a vortex and the Chinese Dragon symbol represents good fortune and energy.
Lamech as in Ley-mik
LEY farming in which grasses and legumes are grown for hay, silage, and pasture in proper rotation to meet full livestock needs and to enhance and maintain soil fertility.
The hoopoe also called Huppe which was sacred to the ancient Egyptians, and they are depicted on their walls and tombs and Huppé is also the name of a Quebec company which derives its name from Hapy "Hapi" which based on my research his descendants founded the Hapiru and Hopi tribes and his brother Qebehsenuef and his wife Kebechet is where the name for Quebec comes from and he Huppe bird connection to the Huluppu tree that grew on the banks of the Jordan and Euphrates rivers.
The Hawaiian god called Kane? (son of Adam and Eve) and goddess Laka and her Hulu dance and the name for the Huluppu tree and the mother of Lilith was called Lilake also known as "Lily Lake" and by the name Zanabaq and the connection to the Zanaki tribe of Africa a Bantu tribe of Tanzania located to the east of Lake Victoria and Atun the brother of Naamah who married Noah and his name was spelled Atum which has to do with "a tomb" and the name Adam and the word Damah is found in the Bible and damah is pronounced daw-mam' which is a primitive root; to be silent (my interpretation) deceased.
Luluwa the ancestor of the Luluwa tribe of Congo, Africa and she was also known as "Kalmana" the daughter of Adam and Eve and the connection to Kaimana in Waikiki, Hawaii and the name Ki KiKi the wife of Noah and the mother of Enlil and Enki and they descend from Tiamat also known by the names "Thaláttē" and "Thalatta" and she directly descends from K'thaal "Thaal" the son of Enosh and grandson of Seth the son of Adam and Eve and Seth married Aklia a spelling variation of the name KALIA found in Honolulu Hawaii and the Aku Aku spirits of the Rapa Nui of Easter island which was named for Ishtar the daughter of Nannar Suen which matches the name of the parent language Siouan of the Waccamaw tribe of America and Siouan is pronounced ˈsuːən and the Rapa Nui represents Ranginui "Rangi" "Sky" and Papatūānuku" "Papa" "Earth" and Nui is a spelling variation of "Nuah" and "Nu" the nicknames of Vishnu also called "Fishnu" and Narayana and Nara means "water" "man" and Yana means "vehicle", "vessel", or "abode" "home" as in the biblical Ark and the name Noah means "rest" and "nuah" or "nua" means lazing around or resting.
Atun married Hazina and according to Bantu legends, the first man was born from a plant, he came from phragmite reeds, but he most likely emerged out of the phragmite reeds that can grow to a height of 20 feet rather than born from a plant.
Hazina, Tanzania is named for Hazina and she is the ancestor of the Hadzabe "Hadza" tribe of Tanzania based on my research.
There are about 35,000 dolmens located on the Korean peninsula alone and according to experts Dolmens trace back to Western Europe (Japheth's domain) and are dated to 7,000 years ago which is about the 6,000 BC time period.
A dolmen or portal tomb is a type of single-chamber megalithic tomb, usually consisting of two or more upright megaliths supporting a large flat horizontal capstone or "table".
Based on my research the word "adamah" is where Dolmen comes from and the name of Adam in the Miautso language of China is "Dirt" meaning earth or clay, the substance from which he was said to have been created. (Not saying that he was made this way but that is what the ancient people believed)
According to legend Adam was a giant created in a cave by 300 angels (scientists in a laboratory or medical facility with a door that appeared similar to a cave entrance to the ancient people) and when we are born humans have 300 bones and cartilage but later in life due to fusing bones, we only have 206 bones, so it appears the ancient people acquired this information from someone that had to have advanced knowledge of how the human body operates.
If not a real laboratory or medical facility, then a cave converted by the ancient people into a primitive like birthing center (My Interpretation)
Adam was born on a dirt floor of a very large cave surrounded by 300 members of his immediate family, and this has led to legends that his name is connected to the word dirt.
(Continue with the connection to Peru)
Piri Reis his real name was Ahmed Muhiddin Piri, and he had the Turkish title of Bey and the Ottoman Turks trace back to central Asia where the Scythian Avar's that descend from Avor the son of Togarmah and grandson of Gomer the son of Japheth.
Perieres King of Messenia notice his name is similar to Piri Reis and he is the son of King Aeolus the ancestor of the Aeolians the son of Héllen and grandson of Deucalion and Pyrrha daughter of Epimetheus and granddaughter of Japheth the son of Noah now we know why Deucalion the grandson of Japheth (known as jā'feth because he and his family built the port of Jaffa one of the oldest ports on Earth)
Pyrrha wife of Deucalion who survived the great deluge described in the bible and was the son of Prometheus, grandson of Japheth (Iapetus) and great grandson of Noah.
Pyrrha "pyramid" and a funeral pyre, is a structure, usually made of wood and both derive from her name.
Perida one of Solomon's servants is mentioned in Nehemiah Chapter 7 Verse 57 and he was also known as Peruda mentioned in Ezra Chapter 2 Verse 55
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I've read the books of Enoch several times and find it hard not to believe. In his travels through the Heavens he'd seen many things including the one whom God would send. With that, I have discussions with my Christian friends and ask why this isn't know or taught.
I know...... it's not cannon.
I will read it all again. It's too fascinating.
Thanks again.
I started reading it early last year and it’s like the missing part of a puzzle 🧩 as it makes other parts of the Bible make sense to me but most of all it’s made the times we’re living in so real as the end times - the fallen angels that walk amongst us and the explanation for the deciet we are all subject too ! Love 💕 🙏🏻to all my brothers and sisters
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It’s not canon NOW, but in Jesus time, they would have been reading about Enoch. It was common teachings then. It was taken out and deemed not scriptural by humans.
It isn’t known or taught because they don’t want it to be known or taught.
you’d think that after all this time, the interplay between humans and the divine would have revealed something “forbidden” or secret or even original. excellent examples of cross connections treading on the divine. i have family still waiting for their “enlightenment”. it’s tragic. thanks again for sharing your journey.
Nothing tragic besides you thinking it's a game
This was my first time coming across your channel and I subscribed within literally under a minute. Your production value and visuals are fantastic! Keep up the great work! I love topics like this about alternative history, religion and mythology. It's fascinating to ponder how it all ties together in our ancient past (and future). Thanks for making this!
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@@JR-bx3vk I'm a Christian and studying these things does not dissuade me in my faith. However, there is nothing wrong with seeking out a variety of information in an effort to weave together the bigger picture regarding our past and future. There is little doubt that certain key pieces of information were withheld and left out of the official biblical canon. This was done by men, not by God, in an effort to better control the minds of the people. At the time Jesus walked the earth, The Book of Enoch was extremely popular and was considered mainstream gospel. Why do you suppose they left it out? If you go back and research various mythologies, you'll find that many of them are telling a similar story regarding the Giants/Nephilim (such as the Greek Titans). If you can remove the blinders of what you "should" or "shouldn't" look at, you'll find that many of these ancient cultures were telling similar stories, just with different descriptive colors. It's the sign of a curious and intelligent mind to be able to entertain various perspectives without necessarily taking them on as your own beliefs. Just because I study these things doesn't mean I take them on as my own belief system, but it does often bolster my faith in positive ways.
Regardless, I look forward to the day when these mysteries are revealed and we all get to celebrate with God in His triumph of good over evil. In the meantime, I'd encourage you not to judge people before seeking greater clarity on them. Blessings to you... 🙏
That odd because I listened to it for 2 minutes and heard at least 5 lies. Telling a story for clicks is not a great source of knowledge. Look for the truth.
I think we need to take a logical approach to this subject it's so hard for people to go down the wrong path
My comment above was in reply to someone who has apparently already deleted their comment to me. 🙄 Can only assume they were embarrassed.
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Really enjoyed the timelines of the ancestral lines. Would be cool to dig deeper on that and maybe also correlate with Egyptian Kings list (1st Dynasty) that is also strange. Great video 🙏🏼
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Also notice: in sumerian mythology, Enmendurana was the grandfather of Ziusudra (the flood-survivor) while Enoch was the grandfather of Noah. Enmendurana was taken to heaven like Enoch and he was taken by a sun-god (which is a plausible source for the age of 365 years that Enoch lived on earth)
People; Let us understand the world is not the “world” of the remnants of an intergalactic civilization whose home world was destroyed, yet it clearly is. Dinosaurs did not live hear those were the occupants of Tiamat. Mostly they died in space before embedding here, life is the rule it evolves holistically in tandem.❤❤❤
@@NarenLumpkinhow do you mean?
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Dearest I mean the doom of men is that men forget, we as humans forget the point, the date, the name, the year, forget who we are, where we are, where we’ve been, what we have sworn to remember
What we have tried to forget, and wrapped in the details of what we must recall. Ever trying to forsake ignorance ever trying to forget tragedy.
There were 2 Enoch's.
The good one went with God.
The one of Cain was your idol who made emerald tablets.
I always did actually find the story of Enoch very interesting, it was something I obsessed about for a short time when I first hear about him & that first little mystery in the bible when you realize for the first time everyone named in the list before and after him were clear they died, but not Enoch. I was like, What's that all about!? lol Then I went down the rabbit hole. For me though I think there are very good reasons it didn't make it into the bible because it can easily misdirect & mislead. I see how.
Beloved, do not believe every spirit , but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1
From Babylon to Christianity.
Lol this comment is contradictory ???
@@allwillberevealed777from babylon to rome, rome also owns islam
You're right, the book of enoch spoke about rain, and we know it didn't rain until the time of noah.
I don't trust the book
It didn't rain till Noah makes no sense.
amazing content!
Great video, informative, thorough and fascinating. New subscriber as of now. Thank you.
So basically, in 3000 years, if someone digs up the Harry Potter books and the screen play of " I Am Legend" they will think we were magical people who were eaten by zombies. Seems about the same.
Why would people carve fairytale story on a rock. Do you know how hard that would be. I don't people was sitting down wasting time carving nonsense on rocks
@@dwaynep7246his brain has a long way to go. It’s ok. We all had to endure the taste of materials before reaching next dimension.
@@dwaynep7246near the valley of the kings in Egypt, they found a place where the scrap stones were discarded by the masons that built tombs. The scrap stones were covered in carvings of jokes and gossip about who was sleeping with so and so. People did actually just carve random junk into rocks and clay.
I just joined your Patreon. I like getting your researched info and learning so much about the Bible from a very different non-believer POV. Keep up the great work.
Thank you very much!
The fact that you just said "descended from Cain" shows that you have much to learn.
There are 2 Enoch's from the book of Genesis.
There is Enoch from Cain. And Enoch from the line of Seth.
They are nothing alike, other than sharing a name.
Loved visual arts and special effects. Helped
I found your video information very thoughtful as I've never delved into the history of Enoch before. I am encouraged to know that there are other history of biblical characters from the genealogy of the first family. Thank you for sharing and posting.
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47:27 There's a definite connection between the Greeks and Jews. Philistine monochrome pottery is related to Mycenaean pottery indicating that there were settlers from the Aegean culture. The parallel between the Titans and the myths of the Nephilim/the Watchers' children is intriguing.
Thank you for this comment.
Yes, there is a connection. The Israelites were given the first alphabetical symbols( language) and numbers corresponding with the letters at Jebel El Lawz (mt. sinai) from the hand of God to Moses. It is believed this system, the first of its kind, made its way to Greece via the Phoenicians. If you're interested and would like further clarification on this intriguing and well documented topic, may I suggest you avail yourself of:
The Writing of God: Secret of the Real Mount Sinai by Miles R Jones:
there were no greeks who do u mean ? the athen ppl?
Exceedingly riveting and well done. Perfectly narrated by a talented orator/narrator. Full of wonder and questions. Certainly the Earth is a productive world, and has a history stretching back further than we suppose in our limited presumptions, and hosting a population of beings holding amazing strength, talent, good and evil beyond anything we can barely imagine today, we the modern amesiacs.
good content much love
Very good video! You explain everything so well. Love me some myths and anthropology!
Too bad Vacation Bible School wasn't like this! So much more entertaining 😁
Tell me about it
I had a bit of this. My Bible school was taught that these stories were only to teach us a better way to live. They may not be totally accurate but we get the message. That’s what I got from it.
@@laneneal3510 TBH, I don't really remember anything in particular they said. I'm a daydreamer, we were outside, and I remember always wondering about what the snacks would be that day 😉
But, some of it apparently sank in bc as an adult, after my years long separation from my faith, and having already admitted to myself that I was an atheist, while I was in the hospital and all drugged up on painkillers, I 'remember' screaming at my then boyfriend that he had stolen my Noah's Ark bedding. Poor guy. How do you defend yourself over such an insane accusation?
It's entertaining because it's false most of it is made up right out of the guy's head All of these gods he mentions are false gods mentioned in the Bible several times and shown to be false because God comes against all of them and claims that he is the one and only God and that there is none like him either God is lying or this guy's full of s***
@@laneneal3510either the Bible is telling the truth or it is false either Jesus is who he says he is or he is a lunatic He cannot be both If the Bible says that it was created in 7 days and it took 7 million years to do then that means that the Bible is misleading and incorrect therefore this is the tool the devil is using to eliminate the scriptures from your mind due to your own doubt which is what he planted in the garden
I just wanted to say a big thank you derek! I'm sure you get this a lot. I left Southern baptist Christianity about 3 years ago and kinda just have been wondering aimlessly not sure where to go but your channel has helped me become more confident in denying my beliefs and discovering myself not through the lens of evangelicalism. I have become the healthiest individual I ever have been and have progressed so much more than what I could have when I was being held down by Christianity. I was HEAVILY involved in church and mission trips/etc and it also helps when discussing with my old friends and family as to why I left and where I'm at now. I am more confident than ever leaving Christianity behind and I appreciate all you've done and are doing! Peace.
Leaving christianity is not a big loss but leaving Our Savior Lord Jesus Christ is a big lost for you😔 hopefully you'll realize someday while your still alive that it is not a about the people around the Church but it is all About your relationship with Jesus Christ
@@dolan1110 The social aspects of church, along with its shared beliefs, notions, that which is moral and immoral is a HUGE portion of who people who've spent serious parts of their lives - especially their childhoods, in a Church, defined as being a Baptist child, Methodist child, Catholic child, etc, etc, is a huge loss. That's especially true when the person's friends and family who are also associated with that church shun the person.
One cannot be a Christian alone. It ALL involves the group! God promises to be there when 2 or more are gathered in his name.... one, and you are on your own.
@@dolan1110 agree with you. I dont claim anything but being a “Believer” in Jesus Christ because there is no religion mentioned in the Bible. Why??? Because God came to bring His spiritual kingdom knowledge in the flesh for us to inherit eternity, not confusions with denominations. He is the God of truth not confusion… that’s satans work. I will pray that the original poster doesn’t stray away.
PS your thoughts and how you feel and act are either of God or satan… one leads to heaven and the other to hell. So you may feel liberated and happy now but if it is not of God no matter how great you feel, he will tell you he never knew you on judgement day. God bless.
@@dolan1110 No it isn't. Jesus Christ imo was just a man. He wasn't nor is he God. It's mythology based at the center of it just like other writings from long ago. I think you should watch more myth vision and open your mind to the potential fact that Jesus is not who you think he is.
Wikipedia says Uruk was founded around 5,000 BC and survived until the Islamic Era around 700 AD. It was also the original cult center of Inanna (Ishtar/Astarte/Aphrodite.)
Thats a long time for sure.
Abraham playing in the courtyard as a little child, a Annunaki hybrid descendant, from Adapa lineage, Enki's hybrid son).
You keep blowing our Minds! 🔥👑
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The part I loved the most is the Prometheus parallelism. I've always suspected this and have even created a story (which I'll submit to Pixar soon) about Prometheus becoming the Archangel Mahakiel :)
Keep it up, you're doing fantastic!
"Yah wants to keep mankind in a state of innocence and without the understanding of the gods "
Very interesting statement.
One thing I've learned in the last few months from the garden account is to not judge things as good or evil but to recognize what is, life.
By letting go of the judgment, I'm free to question, understand and maybe help or tend to the person or situation. My caring is not muddied by a negative judgment or blinded by a positive.
I'm still learning, letting go, growing and seeking.
Do you believe that our understandings of the garden account are similar?
I respectfully disagree with your premise.
" Today, Satan and man have kept mankind in a state of ignorance and without the understanding of the gods and who they actually were."
This will change soon. The unveiling has already begun.
Also, your comment about not judging things as good or evil is.....ridiculous really.
Who established morality? Was it not the God of creation? If we are the product of billions of years of chance and chemicals, you know, rocks to man, then morality really doesn't exist, does it? Only in the mind of man. But, if the creator judges a thing to be evil, is it not evil? If I acknowledge His judgement of what is evil from His word and then call it evil myself when confronted by it, am I in danger of His judgement? No but, I am in danger of Mans' judgement.
You're not going to make it sitting on the fence my friend. You need to choose a side and understand that you will be persecuted for it. Especially if you choose Him. take care...
"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."
Yeshua (Jesus)
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well...he screwed up the innocent part
@@trompel1 a place of peace has choice even the choice to judge with it's fruit such as loss of peace, death, good and evil.
In the story they had a choice to judge/accept others' judgment or to have utter peace same as us.
Wow Derek, 112k subs man. That was fast just 3 years ago I remember you were just 10k or 15k. Every year you double it seems
haha, thanks my friend. I hope to keep flying high.
Very good story telling. Attention to detail, and humble plot.
Well produced. Enjoyed. Subscribed.
Wow derek amazing
You are
Some scholars, by the 1890s, had suggested the city called Enoch in the book of Genesis, is recalling Sumerian Unug, later called Uruk. Cf. the following notes:
"Apparently the honor for the 'earliest" association of Cain's city of Enoch and its land of Nod with Uruk goes to Professor Sayce (1846-1933) of Oxford University in England (Oxford Professor of Assyriology) who by 1887 had identified Cain's (his Kain) city of Enoch with Uruk, which had been earlier called in Sumerian (his Accadian) Unug (his Unu-ki or Unuk) and the city of Eridu preserving the names of Irad and Jerad, other descendants of Cain:
"Its earliest name was the Accadian Unu-ki or Unuk, "the place of the settlement," of which the collateral form Uruk does not seem to have come in vogue before the Semitic period. If I am right in identifying Unuk with the Enoch of Genesis, the city built by Kain in commemoration of his first-born son, Unuk must be regarded as having received its earliest culture from Eridu, since Enoch was the son of Jared, according to Gen. v. 18, and Jared or Irad (Gen. iv. 18) is the same word as Eridu."
(p. 185. "The Gods of Babylonia." Archibald Henry Sayce. The Hibbert Lectures of 1887, Lectures on the Origin and Growth of Religion, as illustrated by the religion of the Ancient Babylonians. London & Oxford. Williams & Norgate. 1897, fourth edition. Reprinted by Kessinger Publishers of Whitefish, Montana in paperback)
Hastings (1894), in agreement, apparently, with Professor Sayce (1887), that Cain's city of Enoch is Sumerian (Akkadian) Unug or Unuk and Genesis' Jared/Irad is Eridug/Eridu:
"...Uruki...a Semiticised from of the older Akkadian name, Unu-ki, Unug, "the city of the land," i.e., metropolis, which, allowing for the guttural pronunciation of the first sign...is an exact equivalent of the Hebrew...Here, then, the first city of Cain is evidently identical with...Unuk...Jared...Irad...is...Eridu...Eri-dugga, "the holy city"..."
(p. 353. Vol. 5. James Hastings. Editor. The Expository Times. Edinburgh. T. & T. Clark. Oct. 1893-Sept. 1894)
Great excerpt, my friend!
Exactly
The ark before Noah
LORD JESUS CHRIST is
THE WAY
THE TRUTH
THE LIFE
Without him noone access THE LORD.
Praise and Please LORD JESUS CHRIST always.
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I can agree about Christ being the way….he is the way to live in a fantasyland, denying reality, denying science, denying the fact of mortality of all living things - including us. Sorry you have been brainwashed into the cult of religion. Keep watching Mythvision and you might break free! 🫶
Thank you for this informational video I love learning about these events
The salient fact about Enoch is that he was of the 7th generation. Think of the Sar. Seven periods of approximately 3,600 years to arrive at a new Creation. And the guy gets "taken up" to heaven. Facts that should be of interest to us at the end of the "Creation" that followed. See the Epistle of Barnabas and you will see how God's Holy Week was retained by the sages ... expecting cataclysm for our generation. Among the ancestor worshippers, one of you will be held sacred for having been swept away by the catastrophe of our times.
The tree of life (think eagle tree of Enki) with the eagle's nest at the top and the serpent below can be found in the Dresden Codex ... with the eagle eating the soul of the earthly goddess sacrificed*. (Knorozov 3) Note the reptilian bossing around the captive leader in the lower right corner! The interesting thing about Etana is that he is chosen by the eagle to be his new son. You might also enjoy Lugalbanda and the Anzud bird.
What I believe you are dealing with are "the gods" ... Enlil was a god of heaven who went to the underworld (like Dumuzi). EnKi (Lord of the Earth) was a god of the underworld who went to heaven. Just as later you can find Enlil the new Wild Ass (Seth?) and Enki giving up the Lordship to his Son Marduk in the South while he is usurped by sleep. In other words, this world turns over from time to time. The red star of the south will rise like the Southern Cross ... as Planet X will fall again like Lucifer in Isaiah 14. The mystery was understood by Dante. In Canto I of the Purgatorio: "To the right hand I turned and fixed my mind on the other pole attentive, where I saw Four Stars (Crux) never seen before save by the ken of our first parents (Adam & Eve)."
As usual, MUCH food for thought. Your fans are grateful that you’re doing all this homework for them! I’m an oldster and I did a dissertation on Joseph Campbell years ago, and read Eisenman’s stuff on The Dead Sea Scrolls to help deprogram myself from Christianity, so I’m familiar with some of this stuff already. You ask the question whether we could think of any parallels between the Greeks and the Bible; I thought of LOTS!
Pandora = Eve.
Jason and the Argonauts wandering the Aegean = Moses and the Children wandering in the desert.
David and Goliath = Odysseus and the Cyclops.
David and Jonathan = Achilles and Patroclus.
Agamemnon and Iphigenia = Abraham and Isaac.
The lost continent of Atlantis = Noah’s flood.
Another thing I’ve noticed is that so much of this stuff ends up In Hollywood “hero cycles.” Star Wars, The Road Warrior, even John Wick. And I’ve often suspected that J.R.R. Tolkien used Enoch, along with the Norse Eddas, as “background” for the “theology” in “The Silmarillion.”
And it’s surely the case that Hollywood films keep giving us endless reissues of the two Homeric heroes. The lone crazed avenger whose best buddy gets it, and the lovable rogue who outwits his foes and goes back home to the girl he left behind him.
Thank you for such a wonderful comment my friend!
Lucifer=prometheus
@@mariussielcken Thanks. That slipped my mind. In fact, that contrast had occurred to me years ago, and what also occurred to me was what this said about the monotheisms that derive from Zoroaster - they all do, really - and Greek culture and “The West” that came from it. Lucifer is the bad guy, and you’re not supposed to follow his advice to think for yourself. The way to practice virtue is to just shut up and do as you’re told. Prometheus is the good guy, and what he gives us, knowledge and self awareness, and valuing our freedom, runs totally counter to what religions want for us. Yes, this really is a clash of civilizations.
As you may remember, Shelley remarked that Milton was on Satan’s side even if he didn’t know it. That’s why.
I have often thought that Enkidu, friend of Gilgamesh, is a memory of an ancient "wild man of the forest." Perhaps a pre-human species, like maybe H. Neanderthal. You are describing Gilgamesh as a larger than human person. Could he, and giants, be the memory of another ancient pre-human species, say H. Denisovans? Some scientists speculate that Denisovans were larger, perhaps much larger, than our species, H. Sapiens. Thus "giants"? I am convinced that myths in Genesis (e.g. Noah's Flood) date to the end of the last ice age, 12,000 or 10,000 years ago. It is not impossible that some individuals of ancient human species, like Neanderthal or Denisovans, survived into that time! Tus got included in the long oral tradition to ancient Sumeria and writing!
Note again, according to Wikipedia, Gilgamesh's home city of Uruk was founded around 5,000 BC, that's 7,000 years ago and "mythically" not that far from the last ice age of 12,000 or 10,000 years ago. It's very obvious that some of the ancient Sumerian, Babylonia & Genesis myths are related to the rise of agriculture (Cain & Able) that replaced the earlier nomads & hunter gatherers that occurred during the period between 12,000 and 7,000 years ago!
Timelines are way out my friend - you are relying too much on the falsity of academia - Velikovsky stated Venus passed Earth and caused the great flood only 3500 years ago.
THERE WERE NEVER CAVEMEN OR ANY ICE AGE. THESE CORRUPT SCIENTIST AND PROFESSOR'S WERE TAUGHT A LIE. A BS. NARRATIVE TO KEEP THIS LIE GOING. MY ADVISE. DIG IN AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!!! BECAUSE WEVE BEEN PLAYED USED CONNED. DUMBED DOWN TO KEEP US TRAPPED AS SLAVES AND TOOLS. LOOK AT THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF LIES AND STOLEN BOOKS. HISTORY. CARVINGS WITH MESSAGES FROM SOURCE. THE CREATOR. AND YET MANKIND WILL FIGHT TO KEEP LIES ALIVE!!! VERY SAD. WE ARE HATED AS WE ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FATHER.
I'm Johnny come late; great video.. This is something I put together yesterday.
Deep Reed: i.e. I get Long Winded [= Thoth...].
In the Erra Epic, Marduk specifically asks for the Seven Sages. The cuneiform lists of seven sages (apkallu) present different names in different order. Adapa is a short form of the name of the first primary sage, whose full name was U-an-adapa. U-An is another short form of the name. His figure equals Oannes as the first sage in Berossus’ account. But in the apkallu list of Bit Meseri and elsewhere, Utuabzu/ Utuabba/ Adapa also takes the seventh position. Ada-pa.
This is explicitly clear in the name of the seventh sage, Utu-abzu, which here means “born in the apsû,” the water deep under the earth where Ea / Enki ZU, has his abode. In the first two lists in Bīt Mēseri the seventh sage is given this name. In the third list he is called Utuaabba, which is the same as the Sumerian epithet equated with adapu above. In the Ada-pa myth, the seventh sage is said to have ascended to heaven. Also the first sage is related to heaven; he is the light of the god of heaven. Nevertheless, both in Bīt Mēseri and in Berossos all the sages are related to water; they are described as fish-men. the name of the apkallu mentioned is Utuabzu. who comes seventh in a list of apkallus. In another place in the same text, the last of seven sages is Utua-abba,
mentioned as one who descended from
heaven.“ [Pro 30:4]. The bird-apkallū tends to a sacred tree. Considering the mullilu
in his right hand and the banduddu in his left, (tree cone and water bucket), he is engaged in a water ritual intended to sanctify the sacred tree. This is a common motif in Sumerian and Neo-Assyrian idols. The
apkallus were also an essential part of the composition Šēp lemutti. Marduk asks, "Where are the Seven Sages of the Apsu, the pure puradu fish , who just as their lord Ea, have been endowed with sublime wisdom?"
Anonymous John a.k.a. Oannes, said jesus says, 'no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."
Putting forth a Riddle:
Speaking a parable to the Christians:
A great Eagle [5404 proper name, of deity, Akkadian language "iṣṣūru, Assyrian našru; Akkadian "šapāru," aš-pu-ru.
[Describing the Sumerian verb is the most difficult part for the gram- marian. ... zu-lu-un ~ zu-zu-lu-un, su-su-lu-un = ru~~unu "roaring" see CAD.]
= e-ru-ú = na-áš-ru
apsasû [(AN EXOTIC BOVID)] N (84x) Neo-Assyrian, Neo-Babylonian, Hellenistic, First Millennium "(an exotic bovid); an exotic bovid; figurine of an exotic bovid; sphinx"
sapāru [(DEITY'S) NET] N (2x) Neo-Assyrian "(deity's) net"
šapāru [SEND] V (144x) Neo-Assyrian "governing; send"
iṣṣūru [BIRD] N (397x) Old Assyrian, Old Babylonian, Middle Assyrian, Middle
Babylonian, Neo-Assyrian, Neo-Babylonian, Achaemenid, Seleucid, Hellenistic, Uncertain, First Millennium, unknown "bird; duck"
nasru [(HOOK OR PEG FOR SUSPENSION)]
N (5x) Old Babylonian, Middle Babylonian, Neo-Assyrian "(hook or peg for suspension)"
Transliteration nᵊšar, from an unused root meaning to lacerate.
The eagle (or other large bird of prey):-eagle
Vulture, Griffon-vulture
Vulture barbatus
Of cherubim in vision Ezekiel 1:10; 10:4. Micah 1:16 seems to compel reference to vulture (on eating fresh carrion by eagles).
As renewing youth
See related Aramaic BDB entry H5403.
H5403 corresponding to H5404; an eagle
noun masculine griffon-vulture or eagle.
Dan 7:4 - "The first was like a lion, and had eagle's H5403 wings: I beheld till the wings
thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up
from the earth, and made stand upon the feet
as a man, and a man's heart was given to IT."
([5268 Assyrian god Nisroch
corrupt form of Nusku [should read Lord ZÛ].
Nusku is a solar diety
"The Great Eagle"
An idol of Nineveh worshipped by Sennacherib (king of Babylon)
Symbolised by the eagle-headed human figure. I.E. As to the worship of the Eagle,
"Most Magnificent")(see Isaiah 34:15; Job 39:29-30;Matthew 24:27-28)],
With great wings, long winded, and full of feathers, with diverse colors (Judges 5:30)
came into Lebanon and take the highest branch of a Cedar. He cropped off the top of his young twigs and carried it into a land of traffic, into a city of Merchants (Ezekiel 27:16; Hosea 12:7; "She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from Afar" Proverbs 31:14, 18; Revelation18:15, 23). ]
He took also of the seed of the land, and planted it in a fruitful field (Genesis 2:8; Jeremiah 11:17, 12:12, 17:8*, 19:10;13);
He placed it by Great Waters (ENKI), and set
IT as A Willow [6851 Transliteration ṣap̄ṣāp̄â,
[See āšipū, exorcists]
from H6687; a willow (as growing in overflowed places):
H6687 Transliteration ṣûp̄, primitive root; to overflow:-(make to over-) flow, swim.
Cause to float
Skin-raft is loan-word
sapsapā-nu [MOUSTACHIOED] N (5x) Neo-Assyrian, Neo-Babylonian, First Millennium "(a fish)".
Fish Apkallū = pure purādu-fish.
Oannes appears with numerous names, such as Apkallu, Uanna, and Abgal.Enki, Dagon, Oannes, or Marduk (Merodach).This may be the origin for the custom (common in the ancient world) of affixing horns to the crown of a king. It has also been historically acknowledged as the origin of the miter worn by the Catholic Pope. The Christian Church
has always been associated with fish.
Christ himself took on that imagery, as did John the Baptist, and the early Christians used the fish sign of the "Ichthys" to designate themselves. The syllable "dag" merely means "fish", which makes it interesting to note that the Dogon tribe of Africa, who have long baffled astronomers with their advanced knowledge of the faraway star-system from which they say their gods came, claim that these gods were "fish-men."
Ada]pa ina pîšu išturu, “Adapa wrote
according to his mouth. ”Bird Apkallū and Fish Apkallū, the so-called purādu-fish, side by side. Apkallū statuettes of this design were buried in appropriate places in the home of a Babylonian exorcist. They were believed to have prophylactic qualities, guarding the home from evil. The bird-apkallu is represented as a griffin; he has a human body, wings and a bird’s head. Figures of fish-apkallus and bird-apkallus are found in Babylonian Ur and in several of the major Assyrian cities, belong to the guild of the
āšipū, “exorcists.], Tree.
There was also another great Eagle, with great wings, and many feathers, and behold, this Vine did bear her roots toward him. And shot forth her branches toward him, that he might water it by the furrows of her Plantation
.. Now say to the rebellious house, know ye not with these things mean ?
Shall he escaped that doeth such things? Or,
Shall he break the covenant and be delivered? Ezekiel 17 .. .. .. .
Debate topic(s): 1. "Out of the throne
proceeded lightnings and thunderings and
voices: and there were seven lamps of fire
burning before the throne, which are the Seven Spirits of God." Debate: Are those Seven Spirits of god in heaven, sent into the earth, the seven Apkallū: the mythological seven "wise men" who were the teachers of humankind?
2. "There are seven kings: five are fallen, and
one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. The beast that was, and is not, even he
is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth
into perdition." Debate : seeing the coming of jesus is at the breaking of the sixth seal, and he has received 'no kingdom as yet; but has received power as a king one hour with the beast,' before the coming of the new king of kings; is jesus is sixth Apkallū?
Hint: "Before the throne there was a 'sea' of glass like unto crystal:... and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were
four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast
had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was
like a flying eagle. And the four beasts had
each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day
and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
During the reign of Dumuzi a.k.a Tammuz a.k.a Adonis, the shepherd, the king, Anenlilda (the purification priest), was sage.
Great video!
I really love your podcast.
Michael Heiser takes a deep dive into Enoch and all the cultures during this time period
Heiser does it as an evangelical which limits his conclusions in my opinion.
One of the things I appreciate about Heiser is that he cross references to define key words within the scriptures. For example, originally Satan is not a proper noun. But more of an adjective.
So it begs questioning what else do we have false definitions for. And Heiser does a pretty good job at finding other areas of teachings that aren't quite accurate.
We need to keep in mind that unless any of us are going to devote our lives to (any of) these studys, we stand on their shoulders. And that any one disagreement does not negate a scholarly master. All any of us can do is get closer to the truth.
May Dr. Michael Heiser rest in peace.
Derek this was incredible
Thank you
I love every story about Gilgamesh, he reminds me of Nimrod, very similar stories. Both Giants, both attributed to the tower of Babel and the building of Sumer, Mesopotamia. What is your thought about him?
He is Nimrod. Same guy with a different name because of the different languages.
In the Nineteenth Century before the days of current "education" where a Marxist professor simply regurgitates what his Marxist professor said before him, people were free to engage in comparative religion and syncretic religion studies - Alexander Hislop The Two Babylons.
Yes, I believe he is the same guy.
The devil knows the truth and the Bible and made counterfeit myths to misleading people away from the truth.
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Based on my research Nimrod and Gilgamesh were not the same person.
Noah
Enlil
Nannar "Suen" "Sun"
King Utu-Shamash "Malak-bel"
Meshkiangasher
King Enmerkar
Lugalbanda
King Gilgamesh
Noah
Ham
Cush
Nimrod
King Utu was worshipped by the ancient Canaanites who descend from Canaan the son of Ham.
Noah
Ham
Canaan
Inanna would have been a 2nd great grand aunt of Gilgamesh and according to legends she was still alive not only at the time of the birth of King Gilgamesh, but he made it to adulthood in her lifetime.
If we accept the long lifespans of the biblical figures, then it makes sense that the other humans that were deified as gods and goddesses described in different legends from around the world also had long lifespans.
Very thought provoking. Thank you.
Loved it. I love history always did,so now i have to read the books on Enoch.
Thank you.
The books by Zecharia Sitchin have a good account of who Enoch really was and who were Anu and Enki, gods in ancient mythology.
Sitchin was not able to fluently read ancient literature. For instance when he says that it reads they came from above, that is not what it says Michael Heiser has several videos out that Sitchin was wrong
Sitchin was a fool who didn't understand a word of the languages he supposes to have translated and 9999/10000 experts in Akkadian and Sumerian can tell you his works are utter drivel.
Was Enoch a descendant of Cain? Thought Enoch was a descendant of Seth through Jared, then realised there is an Enoch fathered by Cain (Gen4:17) and an Enoch father by Jared (Gen5:18), descendant of Seth.
He was a decendant of Seth who is Cains much younger brother. Since Cain killed his other good brother. They eventually had Seth who was a good son.
@@theotheraccount2734 There are 2 Enochs- 1 is decendant of Cain & 1 of Seth.(The Book is based on Enoch of Seth's line)
I for a long time have felt that IF I am to follow the old ways it's found in Sumerian ways. I love the attention paid to these most ancient traditions here! I've always identified with Enkidu as my spiritual role model
you identified with a dude made out of clay to be a god-man's friend and then tragically dying because the gods want to punish your god-man friend? cool.
I like this video format. Very interessting. Also interessting the reactions in the comments, between those who feels personaly attacted, the skeptics and those who just like to know more about ancient stories and myths and have nothing to do with religion.