I'm not sure why the intel cpu buyers would use such slow ram, running 7200mhz on the 14700k and 8000hz on the 265k would help lift the results quite a bit and help frame pacing.
@007finness why not? 6000mhz is the sweet spot for amd, so why wouldn't you use the sweet spot ram for intel? That is precisely apples to apples and how many larger tech tuber channels do it, they test platforms in the optimal configuration which is kinda the point in a head to head comparison. Here you are purposefully gimping the intel platforms while having amd at its best lol.
I’m guessing at 4K there will be no difference which is what I play at. I was just considering jumping into AMD because of the upgrade path for the future. We all know Intel fails in that department. But I think for now I’ll stick with my 14700 K not a big enough leap to swap platforms yet..
why 14700? where is 14900 and why 265?? you pick best on AMD but not best on Intel, i know FPS is bit better on 9800 but only little ... should be a diffirent Intel cpus there.
your tests not true ,,,i think you run 9800x3d on old windows=10% lower fps amd advice=when change cpu,must format old windows,install new (cpu patch can instal from windows iso) go instal new fresh windows on 9800x3d then fps jump
And more of these useless 1080p benchmarks. Not saying no one's playing on 1080p, but the majority of people play on a higher resolution. At least 1440p should be included here, preferably 4k too.
More people play at 1080p than any other resolution and its not even close but thats not the point. Playing at a lower resolution removes the burden from the gpu to maximise the cpu usage to get a result that is actually worth something. Higher resolution = gpu, low resolution = cpu. There's la lot of videos out there explaining the reasoning behind the methodology.
Aside from benchmarking reasons because you want to test the CPU rather than GPU in a CPU Benchmark: Literally more than twice the people play on 1080p than both 1440p and 4k combined dude ^^ Heck, almost more people play on 1368x768 than 4k xD
Yea, no. The vast majority of people, that actually play on 1080p, will most likely not think about buying a 9800x3D though. I know why they use 1080p for benchmarking, but it's simply a dumb concept for customers. If I think about changing my CPU, then IDC what FPS I can theoretically get, if I'll never reach that FPS anyway due to GPU limit.
@@Ad_Dystopia you still said "the majority of people play on higher resolutions" which is factually wrong so dont just put the "but 9800X3D owners wont play on that resolution"-sticker on it. People play esport titles where high FPS count with such hardware, there are also the usual RTS and Sim games that heavily profit from such CPUs, even under higher resolutions such as FS2024 or Anno. You can always additionally add 1440p and 2160p Benchmarks into a Video (which is a great thing) but saying that 1080p is pointless when: 1. We are benching CPU and not GPU and 2. Still most people play on that Res is just.. Wrong And then there is always people who buy Top Hardware and play on 1080p or maybe 1440p just to be future proof. I personally know people who play Sim Games and RTS on 1080p and all of them bought CPUs like the 7800X3D just for the pretty good 1%s and reliable performance. Its not that uncommon
@@nicz7694 I know, that some people play on 1080p. I never said no one plays on 1080p. I myself played on 1080p 240hz for a long time, but surely never thought about buying anything even close to such a benchmark setup. Still, the majority of players, that would buy a 9800x3D and actually have the money leftover, play on higher resolution, which is why I said, they should include 1440p and 4k in their benchmarks. So long as they don't do that, the 1080p benchmarks won't reflect the actual performance gain on my screen (or anyone else's 1440p or 4k screen) over a different CPU in gaming. And yes, I indeed should've specified "potential 9800x3D customers" in my original comment, MB.
I bought a 13700k on January of 2023 and have been running it on a all core overclock since then and it runs lovely and cool under a 360mm aio. Nearly 2 years of constant overclocked use and it usually wont get any hotter then 65c while gaming. Don't believe everything you see.
14700kf since launch. OC and undervoltes with some loadline adjustments. 420mm aio and gaming temps top 55 degrees. Cinebench 23 sub 80 degrees. I agee that dont believe all you hear.
@@Owen-np3wf first micro code didnt work. the secnd wont either.. 2 big reasns. 1 intel knew it was running to much voltage. 2 and it ran hot. generations ago. if there was a fix That easy ( microcode) hey would have done it before it was found in the wild.
@@kewnst I've never had a problem period. I just bought a 14900k to replace my 13700k so I don't have to build a new pc and I have a funny feeling I wont have any issues with that either. I wouldn't go near the ultra chips though at least for now, they perform like butt cheeks 😂. Knowing how to mess with the bios definitely helps with any hardware that isn't behaving the way you want it to
I'm not sure why the intel cpu buyers would use such slow ram, running 7200mhz on the 14700k and 8000hz on the 265k would help lift the results quite a bit and help frame pacing.
This wouldn't be an apples to apples comparison then
@007finness why not? 6000mhz is the sweet spot for amd, so why wouldn't you use the sweet spot ram for intel? That is precisely apples to apples and how many larger tech tuber channels do it, they test platforms in the optimal configuration which is kinda the point in a head to head comparison. Here you are purposefully gimping the intel platforms while having amd at its best lol.
lol for 2 frames lost of complete stability. i'm runing 5600mhz i9 with great result
wondering if there's anyone playing at 1080p using this spec list....
🤦
Notice a stutter with the x3D around 3:14-3:15. For that reason I’m out..
yes lets blame it on the CPU!
I’m guessing at 4K there will be no difference which is what I play at. I was just considering jumping into AMD because of the upgrade path for the future. We all know Intel fails in that department. But I think for now I’ll stick with my 14700 K not a big enough leap to swap platforms yet..
Yes, in that case you may choose the 265k, which is slower than 12th gen in gaming.
Bro wont buy the CPU just cuz of that one stutter. Crazy, just say you can't afford it
Intel has stutters too. Source: I have a 13700K.
why 14700? where is 14900 and why 265?? you pick best on AMD but not best on Intel, i know FPS is bit better on 9800 but only little ... should be a diffirent Intel cpus there.
ultra when? year 2026?
your tests not true ,,,i think you run 9800x3d on old windows=10% lower fps
amd advice=when change cpu,must format old windows,install new (cpu patch can instal from windows iso) go instal new fresh windows on 9800x3d then fps jump
AMD fan got struck in a nerve ^^..?
And more of these useless 1080p benchmarks. Not saying no one's playing on 1080p, but the majority of people play on a higher resolution. At least 1440p should be included here, preferably 4k too.
More people play at 1080p than any other resolution and its not even close but thats not the point. Playing at a lower resolution removes the burden from the gpu to maximise the cpu usage to get a result that is actually worth something. Higher resolution = gpu, low resolution = cpu. There's la lot of videos out there explaining the reasoning behind the methodology.
Aside from benchmarking reasons because you want to test the CPU rather than GPU in a CPU Benchmark:
Literally more than twice the people play on 1080p than both 1440p and 4k combined dude ^^
Heck, almost more people play on 1368x768 than 4k xD
Yea, no. The vast majority of people, that actually play on 1080p, will most likely not think about buying a 9800x3D though. I know why they use 1080p for benchmarking, but it's simply a dumb concept for customers. If I think about changing my CPU, then IDC what FPS I can theoretically get, if I'll never reach that FPS anyway due to GPU limit.
@@Ad_Dystopia you still said "the majority of people play on higher resolutions" which is factually wrong so dont just put the "but 9800X3D owners wont play on that resolution"-sticker on it.
People play esport titles where high FPS count with such hardware, there are also the usual RTS and Sim games that heavily profit from such CPUs, even under higher resolutions such as FS2024 or Anno.
You can always additionally add 1440p and 2160p Benchmarks into a Video (which is a great thing) but saying that 1080p is pointless when:
1. We are benching CPU and not GPU
and 2. Still most people play on that Res
is just.. Wrong
And then there is always people who buy Top Hardware and play on 1080p or maybe 1440p just to be future proof. I personally know people who play Sim Games and RTS on 1080p and all of them bought CPUs like the 7800X3D just for the pretty good 1%s and reliable performance. Its not that uncommon
@@nicz7694 I know, that some people play on 1080p. I never said no one plays on 1080p. I myself played on 1080p 240hz for a long time, but surely never thought about buying anything even close to such a benchmark setup. Still, the majority of players, that would buy a 9800x3D and actually have the money leftover, play on higher resolution, which is why I said, they should include 1440p and 4k in their benchmarks. So long as they don't do that, the 1080p benchmarks won't reflect the actual performance gain on my screen (or anyone else's 1440p or 4k screen) over a different CPU in gaming.
And yes, I indeed should've specified "potential 9800x3D customers" in my original comment, MB.
save your money dont buy 14700k. tey melt.. all 13th gen and 14th gen melt. in 1 year.
I bought a 13700k on January of 2023 and have been running it on a all core overclock since then and it runs lovely and cool under a 360mm aio. Nearly 2 years of constant overclocked use and it usually wont get any hotter then 65c while gaming. Don't believe everything you see.
14700kf since launch. OC and undervoltes with some loadline adjustments. 420mm aio and gaming temps top 55 degrees. Cinebench 23 sub 80 degrees. I agee that dont believe all you hear.
@@Owen-np3wf first micro code didnt work. the secnd wont either.. 2 big reasns. 1 intel knew it was running to much voltage. 2 and it ran hot. generations ago. if there was a fix That easy ( microcode) hey would have done it before it was found in the wild.
@@kewnst I've never had a problem period. I just bought a 14900k to replace my 13700k so I don't have to build a new pc and I have a funny feeling I wont have any issues with that either. I wouldn't go near the ultra chips though at least for now, they perform like butt cheeks 😂. Knowing how to mess with the bios definitely helps with any hardware that isn't behaving the way you want it to
@@Owen-np3wf just because you didnt had any problems doesnt mean the problem doesnt exists. It wouldnt be this big if its all thin air