Intel Core Ultra 7 265K vs Ryzen 7 7800X3D in Gaming - 40 Games & 3 Resolutions Tested.

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  • @TechTesters
    @TechTesters  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +68

    Some notes (I'll keep updating this, expect a LOT more soon)
    - Testing is done in the High Power profile. There is definitely a bug when you set it to balanced, but that doesn't apply here.
    - Core Isolation is disabled for our testing.
    - Some testing was done with regular DDR5 and CUDIMM kits to exclude either a particular memory kit or just CUDIMMS in general. That doesn't seem to be the case.
    - Currently running a lot more testing with different memory speeds and Core Isolation on/off. Will probably be a follow up video, just don't expect anything like that to magically make the 265K compete with the 7800X3D in games. (I just hope we can at least fix some things like poor CS2 performance)
    As always. If you have questions, just ask!

    • @HorstJt
      @HorstJt 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      How many hours do of sleep this week?

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@HorstJt Not enough :P

    • @kennethwilson8236
      @kennethwilson8236 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Gamers nexus seem to have good numbers with DDR5 8600, definitely would like to see a CUDIMM motherboard comparison at matching memory frequencies to a Standard DIMM slot DDR5

    • @christianschoerner2188
      @christianschoerner2188 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@HorstJt hahaha, that was what I was thinking aswell. What a time consuming chores. But thanks @Tech Testers for doing it 👌

    • @taquito9646
      @taquito9646 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TechTestersthank u for the effort, we appreciate it

  • @C6v1999
    @C6v1999 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +81

    Thank you for testing Microsoft Flight Simulator! That is the most important game for me and most youTube channels do not test it in their comparisons.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

      Happy to help!

    • @_TrueDesire_
      @_TrueDesire_ 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      new MS Flight Simulator will be more multi threaded, release in November

    • @MrFiideell
      @MrFiideell 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      exactly, MSFS is a real benchmark for CPUs :)

    • @RafaMazurekRMZ
      @RafaMazurekRMZ 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@TechTesters I wish some reviewers test economy games - CPU there is ultra important and its very easy to test in comparison to other games - heck factorio have command line benchmark that is ready to be automated - no need to even run a game.

  • @JP-1962
    @JP-1962 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    Thank you for testing the Core 7 version. Like you said, everyone else is focused on the Core 9, so its great to have a Day-1 review of the midrange processor.

  • @60DollarCodger
    @60DollarCodger 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

    I wish all reviewers had the same sensible style that you do (Jarrod's Tech is another) where you can just review the product very diligently and then state where it sits on the 'bad product/good product' spectrum without tryhard drama and editorials about the 'bad' aspects.
    Thank you!

    • @DeathComeInPeace
      @DeathComeInPeace 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Part of that is because in the last 4-5 years almost all these products were underwhelming compared to years prior. Every 25+ years old enthusiast feels the same with these releases.

  • @jrherita
    @jrherita 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    Very nice review! Thanks for the MSFS test.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thank you, and happy it's appreciated!

  • @TheMostSavageOfAllGeese
    @TheMostSavageOfAllGeese 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    “My Disappointment Is Immeasurable And My Day Is Ruined..”

  • @Loup31yt
    @Loup31yt 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +18

    Seems like 7800x3d still best quality/price atm

    • @Criptooooo
      @Criptooooo 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      it so xpensive now 450 they raised the price :-/

    • @Trulyontube
      @Trulyontube 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      not seems...but 1 millions % fact much faster cpu with 87 vs 250 & 193 watt high end intel cpu

    • @Mike-jm4gg
      @Mike-jm4gg 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Almost 900$ in Canada so no😢

    • @rattlehead999
      @rattlehead999 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Mike-jm4gg 900$ candian dollars is not the same as USD... IDK why Candians and Australians think that 900$ for them is like 900$ for someone in the US. And no I'm not from the US.

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      And the 9800X3D is about to launch.

  • @Jules_Diplopia
    @Jules_Diplopia 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

    What a mess. After the last issues with 13th and 14th gen, one would have expected that Intel made absolutely certain that this was a perfect launch, even if it had to be delayed. I am glad that I have moved to AMD, even though I might never be able to afford the current generation.
    Thanks for a great review.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      Thank you! And agreed, I don't understand why they didn't take a bit more time to makt the launch go smoother.

    • @CyberBeep_kenshi
      @CyberBeep_kenshi 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      same here, i Never bought amd before, but just got my new system, with the 7800x3d. intel is just broken atm.
      runs like a beast lol

  • @chibbyylol
    @chibbyylol 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    Apparently there's a windows bug that causes massive memory latency unless you disable VBS or update to the latest version of 24h2. With those workarounds the memory latency apparently goes way down and performance goes up.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

      I'll pin a comment in a sec. But you're right, there is a bug (actually, multiple). But our testing is done with Core Isolation disabled and it's on the high power profile. So that issue does not apply here.

  • @bearfather54
    @bearfather54 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +17

    OMG, 7800X3D is 57% faster than 265K in CS2

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

      CS2 data looks really bad. It's barely going over 300 FPS while the AMD can easily do 500+. We're looking into it more now to see exactly what's going on there.

    • @Lookingformorefun
      @Lookingformorefun 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      But its only 50% of intel cpu performance in cinebench 2:56
      and only 50% of performance in blender 3:26

    • @attepatte8485
      @attepatte8485 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      this is because sop or what ever its called was turned off

    • @EliVILNAEI
      @EliVILNAEI 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@TechTesters You need test vs AMD 9000X3D

    • @hyenadae2504
      @hyenadae2504 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Lookingformorefun Duh, it's a 8 core CPU vs a 20 core CPU. Check other reviews versus the 7950X3D and later this year the 9800X3D and 9950X3D. The 9800X3D should be 5-10% faster than the 9800X3D for non-high core load games, and 10-15% faster for simulation / high core usage games just because the clocks should be decently higher.
      As long as they don't have the 9800X3D use more than 10W more power on average, it'll still be 40-50W (65-80W AMD vs 105-125W Intel) less power in games and better efficiency than the 7800X3D. For multicore AND gaming, you'll have a 9950X3D, and if AMD again, allows PBO overclocking/tuning when they release it in January, it should be close enough to the 285K+9950X in all-core work but still have even higher efficiency.
      I saw a review where the 7950X3D matches, or was a bit faster than the 285K in games, and in productivity, was about 10-15% slower *BUT* used 60-80% less power still than the 285K (160-170W vs 230-250W). Unless you *really need* the extra 10-15% performance, that comes with *more expensive memory and boards* (ie, a $200 X670E and $100 RAM does everything, with support for any 7000/9000 Ryzen) then there's nothing special about the 285K or 265K plus all the performance consistency issues that have been mostly worked out on even the 7950X3D and better/could not be an issue with the 9950X3D

  • @Criptooooo
    @Criptooooo 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +28

    Finally someone test new cpus on 1440P and 4K too big thumbs up 👌👌🔥🔥🔥🔥 Subscribed

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Glad it's appreciated :D

    • @Criptooooo
      @Criptooooo 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@TechTesters Keep up the good work

    • @impuls60
      @impuls60 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Utter waste of time GPU limited.

    • @johnmcmurphy1007
      @johnmcmurphy1007 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@impuls60 why does it show different numbers with different CPUs then?

    • @xpodx
      @xpodx 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Right? 1080p makes sense yea but also a low res and if you buy it you'll most likely be at 1440p or 4k

  • @Kryptic1046
    @Kryptic1046 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    Lol I've seen a lot of Techtester videos but I've never seen that look on Nada's face before. Way to go Intel 😂

    • @betag24cn
      @betag24cn 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      rigth?
      for a moment i got sad she was replaced, hear her talk was a relief

  • @thestrykernet
    @thestrykernet 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Appreciate the look at the middle processor and look forward to further coverage. It is going to be interesting to see what things configuration wise will impact performance the most.
    This is basically what I expected gaming wise given how Intel was hedging their bets. It seems like when it comes to energy efficiency and multithreaded there aren't any asterisks with Arrow Lake, but gaming sure is. Given that memory latency is a problem for Arrow Lake it will be interesting to see if there will turn out to be any settings that will help.

    • @PaintrainX
      @PaintrainX 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah. As expected the 265K annihilates the 7800X3D in normal applications. In gaming the 7800X3D is superior. Not surprising, since the 7800X3D also beats other AMD CPU’s in gaming including the new 9000 series.

  • @Petch85
    @Petch85 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Nice that you tested the 265K. I have mainly seen test of the 285K, but the 265K seem like the more reasonable choice for gamers.
    But it is a little hard to get the full picture when only testing up against 1 other CPU. But at least they cost about the same (today, the 7800X3D has become a lot more expensive😥)
    I have yet to se much about the 245K 🤷‍♂

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks! And it's just a matter of time, you only have a certain number of days to test pre-launch so you have to make choices. More CPUs would mean fewer games or removing some resolutions, and I figured it'd be best if I deep dive into this direction. More CPUs and more data will definitely follow soon!

    • @Petch85
      @Petch85 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@TechTesters oh, I know how much work it takes. And if all the reviewers did the same thing I would only watch one. But because they do something different it is interesting to watch them all. But I still don't feel like I understand these CPU's yet.
      The head to head with the 7800X3D makes sense, I think it was fun. Der8auer focused on the options for OCing the CPUS, I think that was interesting. Gamers Nexus focused on the power efficiency, I always like that, it is fun to me 🙂. Hardware Unboxed tested different windows versions , this might help explain why the results are all over the place.
      These are all very different and I think the consumer benefits from having alle these different points of views when deciding what hardware to buy.
      But I have yet to find a review that includes all 3 K CPU's vs 7X3D, 9000X and 14000's CPUs. And I guess the 9000X3D's are coming soon, probably replacing the 7000X3D's. So we will probably get a lot of CPU benchmarks over the next months.
      For now the full picture remains out of focus for me.
      Looking forward to your next CPU video 🙂

    • @Battleneter
      @Battleneter 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      The 7800X3D is the top gaming CPU. and at a similar price the comparison choice seems very solid, we all know the 7800X3D can do as its now over 1.5 years old.

  • @Bush880
    @Bush880 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +28

    You are such a pro. It’s so easy to be ultra negative. I really appreciate your reasoned approach.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      Thanks! I try :)

    • @AbbasDalal1000
      @AbbasDalal1000 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      easy to be genuine?

    • @Bush880
      @Bush880 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@AbbasDalal1000 if you’re equating negativity to being genuine, I have to disagree wholeheartedly. Some content creators go out of their way to use negativity as a crutch to get views and engagement. I prefer the information be presented in an objective fashion. That’s all.

    • @AbbasDalal1000
      @AbbasDalal1000 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Bush880 thats too much, but then every product will be ok only

  • @D.Perakov
    @D.Perakov 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    And with this poor performance in Intel games, how exactly do they think they will convince me to pay for their new processors + new moutherboard + new ram? 🤔Sorry intel but after so many years with You now I will go to AMD and 9800X3D. ☺

    • @CyberneticArgumentCreator
      @CyberneticArgumentCreator 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I love these types of comments. What processor is currently in your computer?

    • @D.Perakov
      @D.Perakov 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@CyberneticArgumentCreator i8700 delided and overclocked on 5.2Ghz all 6 cores. Its time for upgrade for me.

  • @noenken
    @noenken 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    That is a TON of charts and a great information dump. Thumbs up!
    Intel: Do better! We need competition in the market.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you think so, thank you!

  • @wynandnieuwoudt3421
    @wynandnieuwoudt3421 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +40

    LUCKILY I CANCELLED MY PURCHASE OF THE ULTRA 7 AND ASUS Z890 HERO YESTERDAY! WILL WAIT NOW FOR ISSUES TO BE SORTED OUT! LESSON IS: NEVER, NEVER, EVER, EVER BUY PC GAMING RIGS / PARTS AT LAUNCH!

    • @christiansalim
      @christiansalim 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      So u will staying for ultra 7 or change ur mind and buy amd 7 7800x3d ?

    • @wynandnieuwoudt3421
      @wynandnieuwoudt3421 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@christiansalim Will stay ultra 7, but going to wait 2-3 months to see if intel can sort out issues and then I'll make a call! Just wish that intel can fix multi e-core issues, to be utilized in gaming, seeing that amd is going to release 9900x3d next month on the 7th, if I'm not mistaken!? Probably going to be a monster, leaving intel even further behind!?

    • @wynandnieuwoudt3421
      @wynandnieuwoudt3421 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Sorry 9800x3d

    • @christiansalim
      @christiansalim 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@wynandnieuwoudt3421 so u will using amd right now and say goodbye to intel ??

    • @wynandnieuwoudt3421
      @wynandnieuwoudt3421 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@christiansalim Yes

  • @sheratedis
    @sheratedis 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    So new Ryzen CPU's doesn't look that bad any more :)

  • @riskyraccoon
    @riskyraccoon 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for being the only tech reviewer of the new Intel CPUs that actually puts the benchmarks into a non-upper-management perspective. So many tech reviewers treat it like it's a contest instead of a product, whoever crosses the finish line first wins in those videos

  • @zsideswapper6718
    @zsideswapper6718 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    Could have mentioned the L3 Cache sizes when presenting the specs. That was what made the difference for some games.
    Intel Core 7 265K: 30 MB
    Ryzen 7 7800X3D: 96 MB

  • @michelrochette3066
    @michelrochette3066 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Mostly good news for people like me still running an old perfectly good 13900k! Btw, good to see you back and always beautiful.

    • @guilleg6043
      @guilleg6043 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Same here. I was just about to upgrade but something tells me “don’t you are just fine with your i9 13900k” maybe later

  • @pibyte
    @pibyte 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +18

    To sum up: a two year old AMD CPU beats the crap out of the latest Intel release. But Intel throws in some blue screens. Nice.

    • @TrusteftTech
      @TrusteftTech 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wasn't the 7800X3D released in 2023?

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      So far it's mostly been easy anti-cheat. So it's not great, but I've seen more blue screens with previous launches.

    • @BOZ_11
      @BOZ_11 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@TrusteftTech OK, an 18-month-old CPU beats intel's latest....

    • @razor9366
      @razor9366 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      A $500 processor beat a $400 processor, who would have thought?

    • @TrusteftTech
      @TrusteftTech 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@BOZ_11 Yes it does. And that is good for AMD. No point in spreading inaccurate information which can only come back to make you look bad.

  • @corvoattano8531
    @corvoattano8531 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +81

    TLDR: Stick with AMD.

    • @jrherita
      @jrherita 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yeah but her sad face next to the Intel CPU is worth an upvote for sure

    • @corvoattano8531
      @corvoattano8531 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@jrherita Agreed. Competition is good and a strong Intel will force AMD to not be complacent. That happened in the 2000s and early 2010s when Intel bragged about their “tick-tock” R&D approach which led to a decade of stagnation in the CPU area

    • @Lookingformorefun
      @Lookingformorefun 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      only for gaming...
      amd is slower in "computation"

    • @corvoattano8531
      @corvoattano8531 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Lookingformorefun 7800x3d, yes. But 7950x I am not sure. Haven’t seen any comparison

    • @XHeavygunX
      @XHeavygunX 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@corvoattano85317950x3d and you get the best of both worlds.

  • @george3829
    @george3829 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    Exactly the video I needed for the new CPUs!

  • @robertcochran7103
    @robertcochran7103 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you so much for posting this excellent review of the Core Ultra 7 265K. I really like how you present the game performance results and I agree with all your conclusions. The videography is outstanding. Your videographer deserves a nice Christmas bonus. (Smile.) You certainly are busy! Thank you again for such a superbly presented review.

  • @imammumbata194
    @imammumbata194 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Like how you politely described this cpu a garbage without saying word garbage 😂

  • @igavinwood
    @igavinwood 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I love the honest and straight forward approach. Cutting through the marketing BS is the reason we love reviewers that know their stuff, and you're one of my favs. Thank you for keeping it real.

    • @Boss-zo4lw
      @Boss-zo4lw 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Shes not gonna sleep with ya bro ffs lol

    • @igavinwood
      @igavinwood 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Boss-zo4lw Grow up and learn how to handle compliments.

  • @larsjrgensen5975
    @larsjrgensen5975 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    The thumbnail says it all.

  • @Roll_the_Bones
    @Roll_the_Bones 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I assume this cpu design was fundamentally set in stone, a year or two ago, before the worst 13/14 series issues hit the fan. If people have a dodgy i7 / i9 LGA1700 cpu, they'd prefer to have a fully functioning reliable version of their existing cpu, more than "upgrading" to these.

  • @Rhialto
    @Rhialto 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Results should be more interesting in a month when everything will have been optimized. Also if you remove gaming perf I think it's looking as an upgrade in everything else, more computing power for less watts.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Compute definitely looks fine. But gaming looks pretty problematic?

  • @jaawa31
    @jaawa31 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great review, love the format!

  • @catninjawang794
    @catninjawang794 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Smart move to focus on 265k, which most sales will be at🎉

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's what I thought!

  • @risencaseynelson
    @risencaseynelson 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for doing all these reviews and tests on new PC parts. Amazing job, to the point and really helpful for us consumers. Keep up the great work!

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you think so, thank you!

  • @davidgunther8428
    @davidgunther8428 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Dang, this is not what I hoped for. 😕

  • @eclipticsight
    @eclipticsight 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Core isolation disabled you get a sub just for that. This is the best way to see what I am running at 4k. I will be here for your 285k results. Thank you.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I'll see if I can include some Core iso on/off for a followup ;) And thank you!

  • @MrMeanh
    @MrMeanh 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Most launches of new platforms seem to have 3-6 months of updates before all the kinks are ironed out, but in this case the issues seem way bigger than normal. Would probably avoid Arrow Lake for the next 9-12 months if I wanted a good experience without issues.

  • @markquavertune2003
    @markquavertune2003 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you . The addition of thunderbolt to many of the mother boards is quite good . For some of us users gaming is secondary . Music production and animation production are the priority . I wonder if the audio companies will go with thunderbolt more ?

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Not if they watch Arrow Lake reviews, this launch is a debacle

  • @dtsdigitalden5023
    @dtsdigitalden5023 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent info, well presented. You guys do great work.

  • @tankerock
    @tankerock 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Your concerned look in the thumbnail is too cute.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      :D Thank you

  • @JayzBeerz
    @JayzBeerz 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is great for new builders who want intel. I'm happy with my 13600K for gaming and work.

  • @heyguyslolGAMING
    @heyguyslolGAMING 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    RIP Intel, at this rate they won't even be able to give these chips away so a price drop won't even help.

    • @edybtt
      @edybtt 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Rip intel for what? U5 U7 U9 is not for gaming, idk why every tests and benchmarks is with games....

    • @maximumpain4579
      @maximumpain4579 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@edybtt What are they for then? Especially the U5 lol

    • @edybtt
      @edybtt 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@maximumpain4579 you think everyone plays games? Ofc for multitasking, work productivity, developing and much more

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I hoped Intel would finally become competitive again. Very disappointing.

    • @maximumpain4579
      @maximumpain4579 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@edybtt No, I don't think that everyone plays games. I just poked fun at you. Not everyone tests these cpus for games only, but this is what people are most interested in, so obviously these kinds of reviews will be at the top.

  • @justfun5479
    @justfun5479 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Finally!
    I was waiting for this 💪

  • @MouseKeyboardPlayer
    @MouseKeyboardPlayer 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Were there any temp benchmarks done? That's what I'm mostly curious about.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I wanted to get as many games in first, more will follow. But temps are definitely going to be a big improvement over 12/13/14th gen.

  • @justmejustme3042
    @justmejustme3042 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you Nada, excellent review as always 🎉

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      My pleasure 😊

  • @coolcat23
    @coolcat23 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for covering the 265K (instead of the 285K) and the succinct and balanced coverage (and the absence of attempts at childish humour, which has become a problem with some tech TH-cam channels). I hope Intel will be able to find their feet again, because at the moment, from a Gamer's perspective, they don't really have a convincing product.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      My pleasure! And happy the type of content is appreciated! We'll definitely see if Intel (and/or Microsoft) can figure out the gaming side of things. Let's hope :)

    • @coolcat23
      @coolcat23 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@TechTesters Thanks a lot for your reply. You have a new subscriber. :) I hope Intel will release a "zero efficiency cores" CPU for desktop as well in the future, because I'm sceptical that Microsoft will ever get core assignment right and Intel APO seems like a band-aid for a problem I'd rather not have to begin with. There is a place for high thread count applications, but I don't need them and don't want the downsides that come with optimising for them (core scheduling, silicone used for less performant cores, cost, etc.).

  • @burnsyd17
    @burnsyd17 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Appreciate you focusing on the Ultra 7 as the USA reviewers seem to have only received the Ultra 5 and Ultra 9.
    Question though, were your power measurements at just the EPS cables? See GN video from yesterday about Core Ultra power.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Intel always sends out the 5 and the 9, that's nothing new. I was just lucky to grab a 7 from elsewhere.
      As for power. Not using current clamps this time for that very reason. But CPU package power in HWInfo seems useful enough this time around. Aligns with wall power as well. So 190-200 Watts during stress seems to be what you should expect.

  • @mindurbusiness-b3u
    @mindurbusiness-b3u 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    12900k for £270 here in the UK is an absolute steal imo.. makes no sense to buy the newest gen anymore..

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Or a faster 215€ R7 7700.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Still a great CPU :)

  • @ALxdCr4ftPlays
    @ALxdCr4ftPlays 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm happy with my Intel Core i7-14700K system (20 physical cores, 28 threads). Big upgrade from my old 2016 Intel Core i7-6700K system (with only 4 physical cores, 8 threads). Have a ProArt RTX 4080 and 32GB DDR5 and 2TB M.2 Samsung 990 Pro SSD and 1000W corsair power supply.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Nice system, enjoy it for a few years more! :D

  • @mikek5631
    @mikek5631 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great review. You are a great communicator. Thanks for covering MSFS. Hard to find reviews that actually include this title. Take care.

  • @dgreatll
    @dgreatll 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I can just imagine comparing it with a 9800x3d

  • @Steve-ho5zj
    @Steve-ho5zj 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Everybody got a free cpu samples except me.

  • @ploed
    @ploed 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I wonder if Intel even Test their CPUs against AMD before throwing them to the shops and asking higher price compared to the faster AMD which are cheaper.

  • @bubba966
    @bubba966 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good thing I'm not looking to upgrade from my 12900KS. This new CPU design sounds like it needs some issues sorted out.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Definitely wait a little bit longer :)

  • @atariplayer3686
    @atariplayer3686 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you Nada for all the hard work you put into making these detailed benchmarks 💯👏💪

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      My pleasure!

  • @TheEvdiggity
    @TheEvdiggity 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I'm not surprised, the 7800X3D is really something special. Intel needs to figure out the 3D V-cache. The improvement in power efficiency is nice to see though although still a ways away. Wasn't considering their CPUs after the degradations issues for the last couple generations and their prices but hopefully this is the beginning of Intel turning things around. It will be interesting to see how the decision to no longer have hyperthreading will effect their performance in things like video editing going forward.
    edit: after watching the Hardware Unboxed review of the Ultra 9 where they go into a bit more detail on the "mess" that Nada mentioned maybe it's not quite the beginning of a turnaround that I would have like to seen. Hopefully at the very least they won't have the same degradation issues.

    • @Killswitch1411
      @Killswitch1411 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      just special for gaming that's it.

    • @TheEvdiggity
      @TheEvdiggity 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Killswitch1411 considering they're called "gaming PCs" and that is the main area where people watching videos like this are looking for performance I'd say that's pretty relevant.

    • @Killswitch1411
      @Killswitch1411 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheEvdiggity never said it was irrelevant, people watching these videos watch for more than gaming as well. I wouldn't buy a x3d for the fact it does poorly on non gaming tasks and it's worth taking the slight gaming hit for my use case.

    • @TheEvdiggity
      @TheEvdiggity 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Killswitch1411 I know there are more use cases but when the video in which the comment is made has 40 GAMES tested each at 3 different resolutions the focus is pretty obvious. I also have other use cases but the 7800X3D is also amazing in terms of it's efficiency. The latest Gamers Nexus video shows this in great detail. Taking this into consideration it is all around a pretty amazing CPU which is probably why the price recently went from about $350 to $500/sold out. Trying to be dismissive of it just makes you look like an Intel fanboy.

    • @Killswitch1411
      @Killswitch1411 9 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheEvdiggity calling me a fanboy makes you look stupid, sorry but I Don't even own a Intel system right now. There were also other tests besides games in this video so fundamentally you're wrong. The only One who sounds like a fan boy is you with your by no means necessary defense of the 7800x3d. Pretty sad honestly 😂. Stop fast forwarding to the game fps benchmarks lol.

  • @sureshwarankrishnasamy4300
    @sureshwarankrishnasamy4300 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hello to my fav Tech mama! Great comparison and reviews :D

  • @marvdarf6616
    @marvdarf6616 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks looks like a lot of work for the review. Very good video

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It was a lot of work indeed. So glad it's appreciated!

  • @Turok2
    @Turok2 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the review. Unless something goes wrong, I don't think I'll upgrade my CPU until sometime in 2026. My 10700 still does fine for the games I play.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Welcome!

  • @sweeleangloh
    @sweeleangloh 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I'm still on the 12th gen ^_^ quick question- the Black Myth Wukong, you guys ran it with the benchmark tool?

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yea Wukong is using the buit in benchmark. It's not perfect, but manual runs through the game weren't ideal either, and actual fight sequences are too inconsistent to use for comparisons. For seperate testing (like a pc build), it'll probably end up being the latter as that matters most.

  • @irlantiisti2810
    @irlantiisti2810 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I foresee that as soon as manufacturers update the BIOS and all other drivers for the new architecture... Intel will be the performance leader

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I hope so! :)

  • @sonisudhanshu85
    @sonisudhanshu85 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    What i understand if i am not a Gamer and want to work on Blender, After Effects, Premiere Pro, Da Vinci Resolve, and i am building a PC from scratch, i can surely go for Intel Core Ultra Series.
    And i know i won't be using CPU for Rendering, i will definitely go with atleast 4070tisuper or may be with a next gen 70 series card of Nvidia.

    • @Zhandos18
      @Zhandos18 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yes

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I would still wait a little bit to see what is wise in terms of memory choice, but you're right: for non gaming stuff this is a good step. I just wanted to dive more into one area, knowing other reviewers will cover the CPU more broadly anyway :)

    • @sonisudhanshu85
      @sonisudhanshu85 4 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @@TechTesters Yup, I need to wait for a new gen GPU from Nvidia, but looking forward to Arc Battlemage GPU as well. Both are a minimum of 3 Months away from Today, Till then, plenty of performance information will become available.
      Thanks for yours and will wait for future ones as well.

  • @pankajjanghu0310
    @pankajjanghu0310 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Ryzen 7 7800x3d is so Goated that even it will take lots of efford for Amd to beat this monster

  • @novrahadi8568
    @novrahadi8568 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Everyone don't remember how AMD messed up in their ryzen 1 first launch.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I'm pretty sure that anyone who tested that at the time remembers. But there is a difference between a messy launch, and a messy launch with some performance regression.

  • @TheLifetraveler1
    @TheLifetraveler1 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I was so forward to looking at this new CPU and was ready to buy. Then as the results came in I wasn't sure because I was not and do not play the games that most people play. But you put the nail in the coffin for this new cpu, because the game I do play is flight simulator. Wasn't ready to join the AMD team, because my last for builds were all Intel with no problems. But I guess once the 7800 ex 3D price drops back to normal I will finally join the AMD team. Thank you for reviewing the new processors with flight simulator, which most reviewers seem to ignore.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe wait just a little bit. We're testing some more variables right now, specifically looking at some of the "problem" games like MSFS and CS2. I don't have all the results yet but there are some signs that different memory might just improve some things, at least a little bit.

  • @HappyDiggers
    @HappyDiggers 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the review. Arrow to the knee Lake vs Zen 5%, this generation of CPUs really isn't something to get exited about. Let's hope the upcoming X3D chips change things.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Let's hope we see some improvements from Intel as well :D

  • @sevensunbackintime1015
    @sevensunbackintime1015 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great video as usual.

  • @Slickman2006
    @Slickman2006 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is the only PC channel where I never want them to get to the graphs. 😩

  • @KarazP
    @KarazP 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is what I want to see. 😍
    BTW By the bad performance, it looks like it just came from most of the old title games like 3-4 years ago. Because on 8:47 this year games like black myth and Star Wars are just not that different

    • @impuls60
      @impuls60 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It doesnt have hyperthreading!! Battlefield and Pubg type games will absolutely suck. She showed Pubg on ULTRA so GPU bottlenecked. Fail.

  • @justanobody4983
    @justanobody4983 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Looks like im passing this gen. Lets see next year.

  • @Leptospirosi
    @Leptospirosi 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Supposing there is some driver issue with the new CPU I'd like to see the 14700K thrown in the lot, just to understand where the the 265K is lagging behind and why.
    MFS is slower at 1080P then at 4K for example on the 265K

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      1 FPS up or down doesn't really make it slower. It's just hitting CPU-side limits across all 3 resolutions. I didn't have time to do a full retest of another CPU, there's just too many games and resolutions to test, but if I look at some older data I just don't see the 14700K not beating the 265K in most games.

  • @SaccoBelmonte
    @SaccoBelmonte 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    No HT seems like the weirdest decision in 2024.

  • @ryutenmen
    @ryutenmen 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    You have such a nice wify look.

  • @quellien1357
    @quellien1357 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What a mess, indeed. Thanks for the review!

  • @PNW_Drone
    @PNW_Drone 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Making sure I understand, the 285k then we would expect to perform better than the 265k right?

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      4 E-Cores and 200MHz should not change the results by a really drastic amount. But we'll find out soon!

  • @ted-b
    @ted-b 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Honest review, as usual.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I always try :)

  • @N0N0111
    @N0N0111 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    All these thumbnails of weird face Tech tubers are funny to me, thanks Intel.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I tried smiling, but I just couldn't.

  • @dolex161
    @dolex161 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great point at the end, wintel ment stable launches in the past, this was still a purchasing concern for a lot of people who still daily Intel. This launch is messy. Kinda like Ryzen v1

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Ryzen v1 was also rough for sure :D

  • @Scepsis_
    @Scepsis_ 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I was hoping to get the Ultra 9 285k, but I think I’m going to wait a month and get the new Ryzen 7 9800x3D

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I'd definitely wait and see a few weeks :)

  • @PcCentric
    @PcCentric 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You look so sad in the thumbnail :(

  • @notrixamoris3318
    @notrixamoris3318 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gamers nexus has a problem with it too...

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I heard. But I need a bit of a break first before I start watching all the other content :D

  • @hagueian
    @hagueian 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great review! Pretty shocking differences, also in 4k. I hope the new X3D line up will have a better all-in-one proccesor. Something Intel clearly doesn't have this generation. Dankjewel!

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Graag gedaan :)

  • @mojtabagarena9947
    @mojtabagarena9947 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    It could not be said that these processors are really bad
    The only thing that is clear is that the new generation of Intel is not for gaming , And losing the game market can be a heavy failure for Intel

    • @betag24cn
      @betag24cn 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      if you look at other reviews, you can say they are bad, both for the launch and the removal of features and for everything in general, it is a mess, but perhaps it is a sign of change, being a amd fanboy i think is change for the worse

    • @mojtabagarena9947
      @mojtabagarena9947 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@betag24cn In fact, I use Intel, apparently the recent problems have confused them and made a retreat, of course, it should be known that new processors are investing in the future and artificial intelligence is the most important news today.

  • @leooficial1
    @leooficial1 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Here in Brazil we use the expression: "He was already born dead..."

  • @SuperOfficial88
    @SuperOfficial88 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What do you recommend for someone building their first pc? AMD or Intel?

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      At this point I'd probably recommend to wait at least a week or 2-3 more to see what happens with these CPUs and how AMD's new X3D chip does.
      It also depends on what you plan to do with it :)

  • @demiankeaough4616
    @demiankeaough4616 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. Thank you.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you liked it!

  • @xPhantomxify
    @xPhantomxify 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Leuk jasjee! Voorlopig blijf ik nog bij de 7800x3D denk ik

  • @PsychoTaker2305
    @PsychoTaker2305 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is just games, so gamers stick to amd. I would like to know what about productivity/work compared to amd 9000 series

  • @mkedzier123
    @mkedzier123 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I guess I'll wait for 16th gen and see what they do there. My 12700K is still good enough for all my needs.

  • @trackah123
    @trackah123 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I still have my 12700K with 4080 RTX for 4k gaming and it works fine for 60fps gaming at least. it seems after that with Intel CPU things went a bit downhill.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I don't think I'd upgrade a 12700K yet either for a (mostly) gaming rig. Should be fine for a while longer.

  • @Criptooooo
    @Criptooooo 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can't wait for your 9800X3D Test on 1440P and 4K 🔥🔥👌👌

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      If I can manage to get my hands on one, definitely :)

  • @battlefieldfan6079
    @battlefieldfan6079 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The good news is that if i upgrade from my 10700K i will probably most likely maybe see some improvement

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You probably will. On the compute side definitely. I'd still wait at least a little bit though.

  • @fahim454
    @fahim454 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This was just a brand name change to milk customers

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I think they confuse the customers more than help than at this point.

  • @Shiv.141
    @Shiv.141 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for the information

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      My pleasure!

  • @vanilla1st
    @vanilla1st 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Guess we have to wait a microcode update before buying these new ultra processors. In a month or two probably with some updates (mainly microcode) these processors will shine.
    Intel cannot any circumstances leave this generation like this, at the moment its just awful.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I hope so. But they're in stores today so we can't ignore today's performance either. But it does feel like this needed just a bit of time to sort the final details.

  • @CannedMarmalade
    @CannedMarmalade 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why remove hyperthreading?

    • @betag24cn
      @betag24cn 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      to cutp on power cpnsumption and to prove it was doing very little for the people, it was at vest a help for some videp editing software, for the rest, it was nothing basocally, gamers have been dissbling it to allow better overclocks and higher fps on some scenarios for years

  • @gauchemode7488
    @gauchemode7488 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great review

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you!

  • @chris.p2860
    @chris.p2860 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    guess they will rename intel extreme masters to ryzen extreme masters starting 2025

  • @colonelccccc
    @colonelccccc 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Big improvement in power ? This thing is worse than the previous gen, of course it uses less juice to provide....less frames !

  • @chuckvee6408
    @chuckvee6408 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Not a gamer here so my interests are not necessarily there, but I do want to ask about all this race for higher and higher FPS. It seems to me for any given display resolution, at some point there is diminishing FPS or other benefit returns if not no returns for the visual. Obviously the more complex the images, the longer time to render resulting in lower FPS. Please educate me why this is not the case. Thanks in advance! And thanks for the review of the U7 265, the processor I am eyeing for my needs.

    • @TechTesters
      @TechTesters  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      You can definitely argue that you get "enough" performance in games for most purposes. But a lot of people spend a lot of time gaming, and I think it's important to know if your CPU is bottlenecking your favorite game. Seeing a real issue with CS2 not hitting 400-500 FPS+, or MSFS not hitting 70 FPS+, is something you might care about.

    • @chuckvee6408
      @chuckvee6408 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@TechTesters Really appreciate your response!