Video Notes: 1) This video has chapters if you'd like to skip around. 2) The paint on these things can look both green and blue, depending on the room lighting. 3) Although this model is an EMD E8, Lionel cataloged these as both E8's and E9's....depending on the roadname.
My partners from the mountain lakes train shop just got there first shipment of these about a week ago. The owner also got his picture taken in front of the real 4083 engine while holding Lionel’s model
I have to say I am more of a fan of New York central before the 60s but this certainly does look cool! What is your favorite New York central locomotives? Mine are the streamliners like the Mercury, Dreyfuss Hudson and Commodore Vanderbilt.
Thanks for the informative review on those unique locomotives. The NYC also did an E8B unit (4107B) in the Century Green as well. When you showed us the exquisite roof details it reminded me of the K-Line NYC E8's that I have in my collection. Released over 20 years ago they were nicely done. Enjoy running those new E8's. Lionel did a nice job on them.
When you said you can swap shells with the locomotives, it really surprised me. Thank you for the tip that you can swap shells of a powered and non powered engine to do it the other way around.
It is estimated that 58 E8s have survived.The former NYC 4085, preserved at the New York Central Railroad Museum, was the lead locomotive on the final eastbound 20th Century Limited.
To me the E6 to E8 diesels were some of the best looking made in that era. I really like the North Pole version, but can't run it on my Christmas layout.
Good looking E units but NYC only did 1 of the experimental jade scheme. The consist was a usually a 2 tone gray smoothside Pullman Standard or mixed with Budd stainless cars. The car consist you are showing behind the pair was the old 20th Century scheme from the steam era.
@Ericstrains I Know You've Reviewed A Similar Model In The Past. But, Would It Be Possible If You Take A Look At Either One Of These Other Two Lionel Steam Locomotive Models? -Lionel Model 2431400, P.R.R. M-1 Class 4-8-2, Road Number 6855. -Lionel Model 2431430, P.R.R. M-1 Class 4-8-2, Road Number 6871. There Are Actually Four Other Models Of This Class Of Steam Locomotives Featured In One Of Their Recent Catalogs, Which I Looked Up On The Lionel Trains Website. Two Of Them Have 4 Axle Bogie Tenders, And The Other Two Have 8 Axle Bogie Tenders. The Models I Suggested To Look At Actually Have 6 Axle Bogie Tenders. Which Personally, I Think Suits The Engine Better. If You're Not Up For It, Don't Worry About It. Like I Said, They Were Just Suggestions. You Pick Whatever Model Suits You. It's Your Choice, Not Mine.
@@Ericstrains Also, As Great As These Particular E8 Diesel Locomotive Models May Be, I Would've Recommended To Lionel To Give Both Models In This Pair Each It's Own Sound System. Since Each Of Both Units Are Powered By It's Own Motor, I Still Don't Really See The Point Of Having Only One Unit In The Pair Have A Sound System, And The Other Without One. I Don't Know About You. But, I Personally Think That Sounds A Bit Like A Rip Off. What Do You Think?
Have you had any issues with these derailing on your Atlas switches? Been seeing some videos of these derailing due to one of the pickup rollers sliding off the rail and riding along the inside of the switch
I bought the same engines that MTH put out a few years ago. I actually have the mint green Premier ABA and I also bought these same engines in Railking also. This is one of my favorite engines. You made a good choice 👍🏻
Great review and the color is really nice looking. I'm near Boonton and have seen the locomotive they have in the "museum" there. They were supposed to have an open house last weekend but we had bad rain so the larger event was cancelled and I didn't go.
@@Ericstrains I added this after my initial post - I'm near Boonton and have seen the locomotive they have in the "museum" there. They were supposed to have an open house last weekend but we had bad rain so the larger event was cancelled and I didn't go.
I’m actually surprised this will run on O-36 curve ! I like Lionel can do that so people with smaller layouts can have these engines on there layouts 👍
I know that these pulled freight and not passenger cars. If they put out a fantasy set of matching passenger cars I would be all in. Do the scale passenger cars require a larger radius?
@@gregleuze6657 It is estimated that 58 E8s have survived. The former NYC 4085, preserved at the New York Central Railroad Museum, was the lead locomotive on the final eastbound 20th Century Limited.
@@franktino6676I appreciate the knowledge. This means if I can find a set of 20th Century Passenger Cars it would be correct. If I remember correctly the yard in Boonton had the end car from a 20th Century passenger train. For a very tight space they had a lot of nice rolling stock.
Horns 1 or 3 with #3 being the most common I grew up. Bells #1 or 5 I think I like 5 the best. My guess is that '83 was intended to be the lead engine but as the ready to assemble units come down the line someone just grabbed the wrong shell for the correct frame.
I love the paint scheme too I didn't know the New York Central used this color. The other E8s Lionel put out this year are really cool as well, the Independence one with patriotic scheme looks amazing one of my favorites, as well as the Amtrak and Aberdeen Carolina and Western versions. Great review Eric!
I love the fact the accents are better for the crew talk. My Southern ones feature a VERY southern accent. I also appreciate the roof detail, and how they differ so much for the different road names, but the Amtrak ones are the most detailed. Did you also notice the Mars light/headlight combos change? The Southern units have one with a painted over headlight (relocated to the upper Mars light) and one with only the headlight. I know all Southern E8’s were built with both but it appears to be prototypical from photos of the road numbers. Love my Southern E8’s!
I hope that blooper didn't do damage to your lovely E8! I got this one and the North Pole Central as well and I am glad I did. The NPC is really beautiful and with hot chocolate in the front smoke unit #24 and peppermint in the rear #25 it smells great. When the cars come in in November I hope to see some You Tube reviews of it. The NYC "Jade Green" E8 is beautiful but I don't see how it's green. To me it's a shade of blue. I would call it and the restored locomotive turquoise as well as the NYC same color rolling stock I have. Thanks for doing such a great review!
I have no idea why, but I’ve always preferred horn sounds that are prototypical to the ones mounted on the model’s roof. Definitely horn 1 or 2 for this diesel!
Definitely a Shad or 2 off the Mark I have Some Newyork Central Stuff and that Green is A New Green on its On because it definitely doesn't match the Original Green Color but Still at th3 End Of The Day It's A Beautiful Set 😊❤
That Mint Green looks great! 👌 The NYPD (NYC) Police 🚔 Cars at that time [1950's] were Green, Black & White, perhaps it was a "NY thing" with the "green." 🃏
It's just a color that really doesn't matter to me plus I'm not a big fan of green anyway Yellow is more my favorite color but even then I wouldn't fuss if it wasn't one hundred percent right
I saw the actual engine at the Historical Societies open house last weekend. Was great even with the rain. Wish it was open so we could have walked through it. My train shop, only a few miles from the event sold all he had and had to find more. I didn’t preorder it but I was able to get on the second list. It is such a unique engine I would pick it up now as I doubt they will make it again any time soon. You should say the date and how many Legacy Station still has available. Hint hint Lionel, if you make a fantasy set of passenger cars I am your huckleberry 😏. I was told these engines pulled freight but still would like those matching passenger cars. Your videos are getting pretty fancy.
Ive seen the real one, that color really pops in person. You were close on the pronunciation, everyone around here says Boo-ton, first N ends up being silent.
I could see these things hauling a penn central trail van train. In fact. I think I’ve seen pictures of it. Not sure if anyone makes trail van cars in o.
Ok they are Green locos but I'm seeing blue locos. This is hurting my eyes because my glasses are broken and I'm waiting on New one's. I hope I can get through this video with no problem's.
@@Ericstrains yeah not what you would want to hear but that's my problem. I got to the running session before I had to stop do to my eyes but I will get the video done. For 4 years I have watch your video and I have not missed one yet and I'm not about to. Good for me I get my new glasses in about two weeks.
I do not regret skipping pre orders for this year. I had the Quad Cities Rocket on my list but scrapped the idea as I had pre ordered a USSF ES44AC, and have UP 4015 (2 Rail Scale Wheels) on pre order with MrMuffins. I’ll pick up the Quad Cities Rocket set later on down the road.
Wow very nice! Love that color. So unusual. I spied me an Eric’s Trains Easter Egg! At about the 25:50 mark or so. Looks like the cabooses came in! Beautiful set Eric. Lionel is killing it right now with all the stuff they are producing. Fun time to be in the hobby!
I don't really get the appeal to these bluish green engines. But then again I didn't get the appeal to the Amtrak e8's in the day one colors from the 2020 catalog. So what do I know right? hahaha Anyways I'm happy with my NYC cigar band, and the bloody nose Amtrak diesels 😊
Video Notes:
1) This video has chapters if you'd like to skip around.
2) The paint on these things can look both green and blue, depending on the room lighting.
3) Although this model is an EMD E8, Lionel cataloged these as both E8's and E9's....depending on the roadname.
My partners from the mountain lakes train shop just got there first shipment of these about a week ago. The owner also got his picture taken in front of the real 4083 engine while holding Lionel’s model
I have to say I am more of a fan of New York central before the 60s but this certainly does look cool! What is your favorite New York central locomotives? Mine are the streamliners like the Mercury, Dreyfuss Hudson and Commodore Vanderbilt.
I'm a big NYC fan myself. I like the Mohawks a lot.
I’m planning to pick up a New Hudson locomotive when me and my dad go up to York in a couple of weeks
That is a beautiful looking early Diesel NY Central train👍🏼
Thanks for the informative review on those unique locomotives. The NYC also did an E8B unit (4107B) in the Century Green as well. When you showed us the exquisite roof details it reminded me of the K-Line NYC E8's that I have in my collection. Released over 20 years ago they were nicely done. Enjoy running those new E8's. Lionel did a nice job on them.
When you said you can swap shells with the locomotives, it really surprised me. Thank you for the tip that you can swap shells of a powered and non powered engine to do it the other way around.
That’s awesome. I’m an HO scale guy, love the E8s in Lionel. So cool!
Right on
Your wearing my favorite rail line. The Chessie C&O.
Love your new look. Look like a real railroader.
These Diesel Locomotives are Amazing, also the Passenger Cars are Incredible, especially Horn # 1.😃👍
Yes indeed!
Very nice..soon, I will be jumping into the Lionel digital/Bluetooth engines..and these just make me want soon to come sooner 😁
Go for it!
I operated an E8 when I worked at Conrail in the 70's. We called them "Conestogas"; because of their age.
Those are some sharp diesels Eric. Very nice video.
A great looking train
Awsum review another amazing train for you collection
Chris beat you to the punch..... I have a guitar that same color....they call it Daphne Blue....used to live in Boonton
It's not a race lol.
Only Fender could get away with that color.......👍👍👍
How about Sea Foam Green ????
Or Shell Pink....lol
Those look great Eric !
Glad you like them!
I would be happy to have this train
good looking engines !!!
They look great I love the colors great purchase 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
It is estimated that 58 E8s have survived.The former NYC 4085, preserved at the New York Central Railroad Museum, was the lead locomotive on the final eastbound 20th Century Limited.
5:54 lol
To me the E6 to E8 diesels were some of the best looking made in that era. I really like the North Pole version, but can't run it on my Christmas layout.
Gorgeous video, Eric. Stunning looking train.
What wa involved in conerting the originals for freight service?
I think it was the gearing that had to be changed.
Good looking E units but NYC only did 1 of the experimental jade scheme. The consist was a usually a 2 tone gray smoothside Pullman Standard or mixed with Budd stainless cars. The car consist you are showing behind the pair was the old 20th Century scheme from the steam era.
Unfortunately I don't own every type of passenger car that they ran. I've got the 20th century cars and the Empire State Express cars. 😃
@Ericstrains
I Know You've Reviewed A Similar Model In The Past. But, Would It Be Possible If You Take A Look At Either One Of These Other Two Lionel Steam Locomotive Models?
-Lionel Model 2431400, P.R.R. M-1 Class 4-8-2, Road Number 6855.
-Lionel Model 2431430, P.R.R. M-1 Class 4-8-2, Road Number 6871.
There Are Actually Four Other Models Of This Class Of Steam Locomotives Featured In One Of Their Recent Catalogs, Which I Looked Up On The Lionel Trains Website.
Two Of Them Have 4 Axle Bogie Tenders, And The Other Two Have 8 Axle Bogie Tenders.
The Models I Suggested To Look At Actually Have 6 Axle Bogie Tenders. Which Personally, I Think Suits The Engine Better.
If You're Not Up For It, Don't Worry About It. Like I Said, They Were Just Suggestions.
You Pick Whatever Model Suits You. It's Your Choice, Not Mine.
I might get one of the M-1's, not sure yet.
@@Ericstrains
Also, As Great As These Particular E8 Diesel Locomotive Models May Be, I Would've Recommended To Lionel To Give Both Models In This Pair Each It's Own Sound System.
Since Each Of Both Units Are Powered By It's Own Motor, I Still Don't Really See The Point Of Having Only One Unit In The Pair Have A Sound System, And The Other Without One.
I Don't Know About You. But, I Personally Think That Sounds A Bit Like A Rip Off.
What Do You Think?
Cool Engines 😃
Yeah man those are awesome!!
Horn #3, Bell #1
Fantastic
Who made the custom diesel that has "Eric trains" on it? And is it still in production? Also can or did u make a preview on it?
It was made by Lionel. Here's a video: th-cam.com/video/p50ci6t9Rls/w-d-xo.html
@@Ericstrains thank you
Nice.
Have you had any issues with these derailing on your Atlas switches? Been seeing some videos of these derailing due to one of the pickup rollers sliding off the rail and riding along the inside of the switch
On my phone it looks blue but I will take your word that it is green
It changes depending on the lighting. It's kind of on the fence between green and blue.
Viva New York Central! Plz reply
Viva indeed!
@@Ericstrains Yesses! Will you review a Coaster Commuter Train Set in O-gauge?
if you see this say hi (again) ps - the joke was funny
hi
Why is it blue
depends on the lighting. Sometimes they look blue, sometimes green.
@@Ericstrains what is the actual color
Horn #3. Bell #1
""" THEY SHOULD DO... ( MP ) MISSOURI PACIFIC .....!!!!!!
If Tiffany & Co. were to have a railroad, that color is how their engines would be painted. 😆
Horn 5! And bell 2!
I bought the same engines that MTH put out a few years ago. I actually have the mint green Premier ABA and I also bought these same engines in Railking also. This is one of my favorite engines. You made a good choice 👍🏻
Horn #2 I prefer as its a Leslie A200 and is more accurate to the prototype.
🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗
Great review and the color is really nice looking. I'm near Boonton and have seen the locomotive they have in the "museum" there. They were supposed to have an open house last weekend but we had bad rain so the larger event was cancelled and I didn't go.
It really is!
@@Ericstrains I added this after my initial post - I'm near Boonton and have seen the locomotive they have in the "museum" there. They were supposed to have an open house last weekend but we had bad rain so the larger event was cancelled and I didn't go.
I’m actually surprised this will run on O-36 curve ! I like Lionel can do that so people with smaller layouts can have these engines on there layouts 👍
I know that these pulled freight and not passenger cars. If they put out a fantasy set of matching passenger cars I would be all in. Do the scale passenger cars require a larger radius?
@@gregleuze6657 It is estimated that 58 E8s have survived. The former NYC 4085, preserved at the New York Central Railroad Museum, was the lead locomotive on the final eastbound 20th Century Limited.
@@franktino6676I appreciate the knowledge. This means if I can find a set of 20th Century Passenger Cars it would be correct. If I remember correctly the yard in Boonton had the end car from a 20th Century passenger train. For a very tight space they had a lot of nice rolling stock.
So they will run on O-36? I was confused because I kept seeing conflicting info on this. Thanks!
These Lionel E8's will operate on O36 track
Extraordinary looking locomotives Extraordinary youtube channel ✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️👍🏻
Horns 1 or 3 with #3 being the most common I grew up. Bells #1 or 5 I think I like 5 the best. My guess is that '83 was intended to be the lead engine but as the ready to assemble units come down the line someone just grabbed the wrong shell for the correct frame.
It looks close enough to me. Look it up online and there's many variations depending on age and lighting conditions.
I love the paint scheme too I didn't know the New York Central used this color. The other E8s Lionel put out this year are really cool as well, the Independence one with patriotic scheme looks amazing one of my favorites, as well as the Amtrak and Aberdeen Carolina and Western versions. Great review Eric!
Right on
Ive seen that engine it real life! It is kept not too far from where I live.
I love the fact the accents are better for the crew talk. My Southern ones feature a VERY southern accent. I also appreciate the roof detail, and how they differ so much for the different road names, but the Amtrak ones are the most detailed.
Did you also notice the Mars light/headlight combos change? The Southern units have one with a painted over headlight (relocated to the upper Mars light) and one with only the headlight. I know all Southern E8’s were built with both but it appears to be prototypical from photos of the road numbers. Love my Southern E8’s!
Definitely!
NYC. Black is too ugly. Let’s try an ugly shade of green. However, it is nice they made this unique paint scheme.
Very nice Eric. Boy, that blue light filter at the end really made those units look cool. Sort of a glow-in-the-dark effect going on. lol Nice work!
Thanks 👍
I hope that blooper didn't do damage to your lovely E8! I got this one and the North Pole Central as well and I am glad I did. The NPC is really beautiful and with hot chocolate in the front smoke unit #24 and peppermint in the rear #25 it smells great. When the cars come in in November I hope to see some You Tube reviews of it. The NYC "Jade Green" E8 is beautiful but I don't see how it's green. To me it's a shade of blue. I would call it and the restored locomotive turquoise as well as the NYC same color rolling stock I have. Thanks for doing such a great review!
I have no idea why, but I’ve always preferred horn sounds that are prototypical to the ones mounted on the model’s roof. Definitely horn 1 or 2 for this diesel!
I'm going with personally the Horn #4, I'm a huge L&N guy and the M5 on E8's from L&N just hold a place in my heart
Looks like the color is off. But still a great looking pair of engines.
Definitely a Shad or 2 off the Mark I have Some Newyork Central Stuff and that Green is A New Green on its On because it definitely doesn't match the Original Green Color but Still at th3 End Of The Day It's A Beautiful Set 😊❤
Must be something with the lighting. In some shots it looks mint green and in others it looks more sky blue. Still a beautiful looking engine
I saw the Easter egg Caboose! Where's mine? I preordered one. HAHA!
That's a pre-production sample. They're supposed to arrive later this year...probably November or December.
Those locos are great. And the NYC passenger cars make this an outstanding set! And definitely Horn #1,
The hobo union has approved this video...😊😊😊😊
Lovely video Eric! Love the aqua green!
Who designed your 'Mini Me' in the video? LOL!
Haha
👍🚂🚞🚞🚞
Damn.....one if the fastest trains you have ..... ????
Time for a train drag race.....😀👍
ha
That Mint Green looks great! 👌 The NYPD (NYC) Police 🚔 Cars at that time [1950's] were Green, Black & White, perhaps it was a "NY thing" with the "green." 🃏
I saw this 0n your last video 0n the train cam and was going to comment how cool it looked
IT been so long since ive watched i used to watch ur channel all the time love coming back and seeing everything
It's just a color that really doesn't matter to me plus I'm not a big fan of green anyway
Yellow is more my favorite color but even then I wouldn't fuss if it wasn't one hundred percent right
Like horn 3 and bell 1
My Mrs' grandfather's last run before he retired in 1972 was on e-8s for the UP. I wish that Lionel had done UP paint
Absolute balogna that both units dont have sound at that price point . . .
can't please everyone lol
I saw the actual engine at the Historical Societies open house last weekend. Was great even with the rain. Wish it was open so we could have walked through it. My train shop, only a few miles from the event sold all he had and had to find more. I didn’t preorder it but I was able to get on the second list. It is such a unique engine I would pick it up now as I doubt they will make it again any time soon. You should say the date and how many Legacy Station still has available. Hint hint Lionel, if you make a fantasy set of passenger cars I am your huckleberry 😏. I was told these engines pulled freight but still would like those matching passenger cars. Your videos are getting pretty fancy.
Thanks.
Ive seen the real one, that color really pops in person. You were close on the pronunciation, everyone around here says Boo-ton, first N ends up being silent.
Cool thanks!
I’ve been waiting so long to see what these look like. I think they’re beautiful. Great set!
I think so too!
Love it
It reminds me of the film silverstreak
I could see these things hauling a penn central trail van train. In fact. I think I’ve seen pictures of it. Not sure if anyone makes trail van cars in o.
6:09 I’ve heard it both ways, but usually with the “T” silent. Nobody’d give you flak either way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thanks!
Awesome color, just like the fifties cars had.
Opening with a Dad Joke? I’m in!
Ok they are Green locos but I'm seeing blue locos.
This is hurting my eyes because my glasses are broken and I'm waiting on New one's.
I hope I can get through this video with no problem's.
uh oh!
@@Ericstrains yeah not what you would want to hear but that's my problem.
I got to the running session before I had to stop do to my eyes but I will get the video done.
For 4 years I have watch your video and I have not missed one yet and I'm not about to.
Good for me I get my new glasses in about two weeks.
Beautiful set Eric! I have the Amtrak E8 debut one off set.
The Amtrak one is nice
Horn 4. It reminds me of the horns on the E units when I was young-before Amtrak and back to the Pennsy B&O, and NYC.
I do not regret skipping pre orders for this year. I had the Quad Cities Rocket on my list but scrapped the idea as I had pre ordered a USSF ES44AC, and have UP 4015 (2 Rail Scale Wheels) on pre order with MrMuffins. I’ll pick up the Quad Cities Rocket set later on down the road.
Get ready to pay more for it. The 3rd party prices are crazy high these days for some reason.
bigger question can both be fitted with sound system
probably.
Will be adding sound to a powered sound less A unit shortly, parts arrive tomorrow. Ill let you know if its a success
Excelente locomoto e8 nyc👏
I ordered the North Pole Central E8 engines plus all the passenger cars, a total of 12 passenger cars. I heard those will be the most collectible
I still want the NY Central as well
You got a haircut! Also nice review thank you!
Horn #2 but #5 is almost a tie
Bell #5 is good
Yep! Chopped it all off
Beautiful choice
Locomotora
Eric, This Lionel EMD E8 NYC is fantastic! Great buy! Great video by you, reviewing this new engine ! 🚂
Thanks!
The Aberdeen one.
Knowing you my friend, you will buy the kc units. And I won't blame you either on that. I love the southern black widow color, and that other one too.
KC?
Very nice train, love the night shots.
Glad you enjoyed
Eric are my eyes playing tricks on me, but these units look bigger than F3 units
These look like a monster set
They are bigger than F3’s
Wow very nice! Love that color. So unusual. I spied me an Eric’s Trains Easter Egg! At about the 25:50 mark or so. Looks like the cabooses came in! Beautiful set Eric. Lionel is killing it right now with all the stuff they are producing. Fun time to be in the hobby!
It’s a pre-production sample they sent. The main batch of them hasn’t arrived yet. 😃
Great looking passenger cars, are they correct for these engines?
I think so.
OOOooo000oooOOO!!!
Like that chessie shirt
me too!
Thanks for sharing and I like how you show and explain the pairing on legacy and LC app !! Great looking locomotive!!!
You bet!
Is there a B unit available?
Not yet
New hairstyle looks much better. Cool trains!
Thanks!
@@Ericstrains can you review the new Mikado or F Units that allow you to make your own announcements?
At 14:30 it looks like the pilots don't sit level. Is that correct?
I don't really get the appeal to these bluish green engines. But then again I didn't get the appeal to the Amtrak e8's in the day one colors from the 2020 catalog. So what do I know right? hahaha
Anyways I'm happy with my NYC cigar band, and the bloody nose Amtrak diesels 😊
That looks kind of blue-ish to me instead of green
He shoots he scores, a nice addition to your collection sir 👍👍
Thanks 👍