Probably the best that Hollywood will ever see. Davis and Crawford. Two top notch actresses whose films will never be forgotten. Loved both Equally. Whatever was exposed about either after they died doesn't take anything away from their legendary status.
@@terrymurphy2032 Actually I saw an interview with Davis on the Cavett show and she told him that Joan had asked Bette to be careful with handling her cause she had back problems. Bette didn't pay attention and actually caused her some pain. I loved both actresses. Rarely were they in anything not worth watching. You and your family have a very merry Christmas!
@@jasonlindsey9946 Rubbish. It would've been Bette who told Joan. Bette hurt her back because she was out of shape lifting another person (Joan) off the bed. And it was the second take when Bette lifted/dragged Joan that she hurt her back.
RIGHT?!? People have zero clue just how wild it is that a poor nobody from a broken home like Joan was some how able to literally will herself into the iron she became. Like you don’t become a Joan or Bette by simply screwing your way to the top. And even if you do get there, you don’t stay there for decades after that sexist industry has lost interest in your bygone youth the way both of them did without having the goods to back it up. If there is some sort of afterlife, I have to hope the two of them are up there playing cards and having a drink, amused by their permanent-association from beyond the grave. Having read several biographies about both, I’m inclined to believe they’d rather be linked together as immortals opposed to being lost to the obscurity of time individually. ❤️
Thank you for this Magnificent old horrendo clip, complete with vintage commercials. Sean considines brilliant book, b e t t e and Joan: the Divine Feud is the origin of all my b e t t e and Joan obsessions. Davis was all about being an actress and Crawford was all about being a star and so they embodied different principles and Hollywood didn't want to let them coexist because there was barely room for even one woman in Hollywood at that time. Both became Legends through their hard work and greatness but don't tangle with either one of them. I have no trouble believing that if some ex-husband pissed off b e t t e Davis he would not make it alive to the other side of the street.
@@patr70 Well, Bette certainly had the flashier part in that particular script, so it’s comparing apples and oranges. If you’ve watch both of their combined filmographies, Joan had quite a few more great, fun performances than Bette: “Mildred Pierce”, “Sudden Fear”, “Harriet Craig”, “Torch Song”, “Female on the Beach”, “Johnny Guitar”, The Dammed Don’t Cry”, “Autumn Leaves”, “Possessed”, “Queen Bee”, “Best of Everything”, “Flamingo Road”, “Humoresque”, “This Woman is Dangerous”. Joan even dominated in fun performances in the Grande Dame Guignol genre with “Straight Jacket”, “Berserk”, and “Trog”. I’ve always thought part of the reason Bette was such a bully on “Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte” was that she realized Joan had a flashier part than “Baby Jane” so there was more competition. Bette is very good, too. They are my top two. Just “Team Joan” here for top honors based on the sheer number of great performances compared to Bette. Joan had a fantastic radio performance in Suspense “The Ten Years” if anyone needs an example of her acting chops.
@@patr70 Bette was the best actress in history. But Joan was brilliant on and off screen. In film, Joan's career was much greater than Bette's and Joan had a talent for other areas such as the business world (she was the first woman at a company board of directors) and the impact that Joan had on adopting Christina. She was the first single adoptive mother, she changed the law forever, she was a pioneer and the impact she had at that time was spectacular. So Joan Crawford is better than Bette. Davis lost most of his fame living in the country. Joan was more ambitious and hard-working.
no one ever said that. what they said was that she pushed him and he hit his head on the curb. He died three days later. Here is a snippet of the Los Angeles times article of that time: "A Hollywood police report stated that Farnsworth, 35, a former commercial airline pilot, was found unconscious about 4 p.m. along the 6200 block of the boulevard. Davis told authorities that her husband had “fallen down the stairs two months earlier at their New Hampshire home while running to answer the phone,” the newspaper said." So, there you have it. She was directly responsible for his death. She actually lied about it and said it was the result of a head injury at home. She should have went to jail for it. For life.
Right?? And even if it did go down the way they claim, it’s not like she was bragging about it or felt nothing about it. The fact that she confided to anybody at all (if she did) clearly means she felt guilty or some type of way for her perceived part in his health issues. Not like she was callously waving it off like, “Yeah, so what??”
I was wondering the same thing. I assume that it was the late 80s, early 90s. The daytime talk show world changed BIG TIME from about '94 on. And I do believe that half of the panel on this Geraldo clip were gone by the late 90's.
@Olah I will be more specific. This Geraldo clip had to have been soon after her demise. Sometime 1990's. And as I stated, the one's discussing her wouldn't have said what they did if she was alive. I wonder what your age is. As younger folks seem to know less than they pretend to know about Bette Davis. And Joan Crawford too.
@Olah For 59+ years I'm familiar with the name Bette Davis, the name Joan Crawford. As I recall "What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?" as a child of years, advanced as a child, yet not the age of an adolescent. My parents saw the film in 1962. Coming home from the movie theater in the evening, talking about it. They had photos of stills from the film of Davis & Crawford. I do not idolize Davis. But I certainly know her career, her work, who she was, for the most part. The same with Crawford. I recall both their demise. You are very mistaken with things you're stating on Davis. She worked in films & tv well into her 70's. When she died, she was in Paris, France, there to receive yet one more accolade, honor, from the French. One more to her many, many awards. If you want to express your mindset on legendary thespians, you ought to know what to say. I know them all well because I lived while they existed. I know Susan Sarandon. Just mentioning. Senior citizen here.
I read that part about Doris Day to which Day denied any wrong doing. I do however believe wholeheartedly from watching Day's reaction at the end of Mamie's dance number (when she walks off and before a closeup shot of Doris smiling/clapping) that Day did indeed have some issue with Mamie. The long shot shows Doris very lightly clapping and she has a sour look on her face. The next shot is a closeup shot of Doris all happy and clapping enthusiastically. They don't match.
Bette Davis was very Jealous of Joan Crawford’s beauty and glamour ... two things Bette Davis didn’t have. Bette was also very resentful of Joan Crawford’s aggressiveness about going after men and getting movie parts.
Totally team joan!! ....bette was fscinating and herself..but joan was guarded and tried her best to be herself...at end of day as much as we would like to be like bette...were all actually joan...just trying to fit in....i feel joan...whether we like it or not joan at end of day is like most of us....bette would be facinating at a party gor hours chatting....you would want to talk to joan long after the party well imto the morming...
yeah but Joan seems kind of elitist to me. Idk she seemed like the type of person that would be friends with you but sideye you behind your back and later talk sh*t. if Bette didn’t like you, she’d tell you straight up.
I have listened & watched everything I could on Joan& I adore her. To be fair I haven't done the same with Better Davis,but what I have seen,it seems like she wasn't a very good person
Mommie Dearest hadn’t even been written when Joan Crawford and John Wayne was having their affair. Just shows really that Geraldo didn’t do his homework or job well.....or even know what he was doing or talking about.
Fabulous book! Considine did text book of the feud. Its far better and more accurate than the fictitious Feud. Considines book is compulsory reading to understanding the feud
As much as I eat up these old eighties talk show clips where everybody from the studio era was at the end of their lives and just like “fuq it, I’m speaking my piece,” there’s something incredibly cringe about watching these old guys compare and contrast who they “bagged” and who they didn’t, as if the women whose reputations and legacies have outlived them all had none of their own agency or interests in mind when it came to their personal and private lives. Also they have been slu*-shaming Joan since the literal moment the warmth left her body. Who cares if she had a carnal veracity to match every one of her male conquests??? The way they have reduced this woman’s incredible legacy to her ascending the ladder of success on her back is INSANE to me. There were a million women trying to “sleep their way to the top” then and since. Yet how many of them have wound up where Crawford wound up?? Literally almost none. They act like being promiscuous is the reason she is the legend she is. Absurd. Joan and Bette, ironically enough, are two of maybe five women from the “studio” era that are still household names where everybody from Stanwyck to Blondell to so many others are all but forgotten outside of the most dedicated cinephiles. And it’s not because they f**ked any or all of these crumbly a$$ old white dudes.
Bette Davis hated everybody (especially women) who didn’t agree with her every thought. She was just jealous of Joan Crawford’s beauty. I wouldn’t doubt Bette pushed her husband. Crazy women do that!
Miss a day of meds? How many angry, nasty comments does one need to make on one video? You never met these people. Calm the emotional issues because it's looking like a completely crazy woman as we see comment after comment after comment...
Davis and Crawford were certainly rivals who didn't much like each other, but the notion of a "feud" was largely invented by Considine for his book, and based mostly on unsubstantiated rumours, most of them probably apocryphal. Considine repeated and embroidered all the rumours, even when he couldn't find a scrap of evidence to support them, much less any first-hand witnesses willing to go on the record, even with Davis and Crawford both long gone. All of these rumoured incidents subsequently found their way into Ryan Murphy's Feud, which was served up as though it were all based on "research". Just one example: the oft-repeated story that Joan Crawford lined the hem of her costume with weights for the scene in Baby Jane in which Davis had to haul her Blanche's body across the room... which apparently led to Davis injuring her back. There's zero evidence for this. And it's pretty hard to imagine Crawford altering costumes with needle and thread. Also, if she had, the entire costume department would have known. It's likely Davis's back injury led to someone making a joke about Crawford weighting her costume, and the joke developed into myth and legend. And that's about the level of half the stories that comprise The Divide Feud.
Well, consider Bette's comments upon hearing Crawford's death, "You should never say bad things about the dead, only good. Joan Crawford is dead… good!", so there was a feud , and a big one!
Speak for yourself!!!! There's so Bette Davis out there. I don't want to for it.I want to be myself. Joan Crawford was a Pretentious woman! I surely don't think everyone is a Joan Crawford.
Interesting. Back before Rivera became a right wing nut. He lost the admirable qualities he possessed after the Marilyn Monroe debacle on the 20/20 TV show.
@@stxrstrxckmxteo515 It was ABC 20/20. They had a fully researched show on the MM/RFK affair. It was advertised on TV, then things started happening. First it was cut down to about 30 minutes, then 15, then yanked altogether right before air time. In it's place was shown a segment on K9 Police Dogs. Come to find out the decision was made by Roone Arlisge ABC President, and close friend of Ethel Kennedy. Sylvia Chase and Geraldo Rivera quit in protest. Hugh Downs and Barbara Walters also protested saying the story had greater verification than anything ever done on the show. Marilyn has made a huge impact on literally countless people, especially those trying to surpress the truth.
Probably the best that Hollywood will ever see. Davis and Crawford. Two top notch actresses whose films will never be forgotten.
Loved both Equally. Whatever was exposed about either after they died doesn't take anything away from their legendary status.
Oh, listen: the likes of those two will NEVER be equalled.
@@terrymurphy2032 Actually I saw an interview with Davis on the Cavett show and she told him that Joan had asked Bette to be careful with handling her cause she had back problems. Bette didn't pay attention and actually caused her some pain.
I loved both actresses. Rarely were they in anything not worth watching.
You and your family have a very merry Christmas!
@@jasonlindsey9946 Rubbish. It would've been Bette who told Joan. Bette hurt her back because she was out of shape lifting another person (Joan) off the bed. And it was the second take when Bette lifted/dragged Joan that she hurt her back.
RIGHT?!?
People have zero clue just how wild it is that a poor nobody from a broken home like Joan was some how able to literally will herself into the iron she became.
Like you don’t become a Joan or Bette by simply screwing your way to the top. And even if you do get there, you don’t stay there for decades after that sexist industry has lost interest in your bygone youth the way both of them did without having the goods to back it up.
If there is some sort of afterlife, I have to hope the two of them are up there playing cards and having a drink, amused by their permanent-association from beyond the grave.
Having read several biographies about both, I’m inclined to believe they’d rather be linked together as immortals opposed to being lost to the obscurity of time individually. ❤️
*icon, not iron
HUge JOAN fan here!!!!!!!love it
Amazing actress
Yup . . Team JC 💯
J C makes you believe that you are not watching a movie... but a piece of real life instead
Child abuse is not to be admired
@@sametoyoutoo8509 She was NOT a child abuser. Educate yourself on this topic before spreading disinformation.
They both had so much in common, in spite of Miss Davis's opinion to the contrary
gentleman don’t tell about their conquests…….
Both of these were fantastic actresses but I love Bette Davis....team Bette here.💕💕
Bette for ever!
Thank you for this Magnificent old horrendo clip, complete with vintage commercials. Sean considines brilliant book, b e t t e and Joan: the Divine Feud is the origin of all my b e t t e and Joan obsessions. Davis was all about being an actress and Crawford was all about being a star and so they embodied different principles and Hollywood didn't want to let them coexist because there was barely room for even one woman in Hollywood at that time. Both became Legends through their hard work and greatness but don't tangle with either one of them. I have no trouble believing that if some ex-husband pissed off b e t t e Davis he would not make it alive to the other side of the street.
Fascinating, thank you for this! Team Joan here.
Team Joan, too! Bless you! (From the bottom of my agnostic heart)
Bette Davis was light years better then Joan Crawford in Baby Jane.
@@patr70 Well, Bette certainly had the flashier part in that particular script, so it’s comparing apples and oranges. If you’ve watch both of their combined filmographies, Joan had quite a few more great, fun performances than Bette: “Mildred Pierce”, “Sudden Fear”, “Harriet Craig”, “Torch Song”, “Female on the Beach”, “Johnny Guitar”, The Dammed Don’t Cry”, “Autumn Leaves”, “Possessed”, “Queen Bee”, “Best of Everything”, “Flamingo Road”, “Humoresque”, “This Woman is Dangerous”. Joan even dominated in fun performances in the Grande Dame Guignol genre with “Straight Jacket”, “Berserk”, and “Trog”.
I’ve always thought part of the reason Bette was such a bully on “Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte” was that she realized Joan had a flashier part than “Baby Jane” so there was more competition. Bette is very good, too. They are my top two. Just “Team Joan” here for top honors based on the sheer number of great performances compared to Bette. Joan had a fantastic radio performance in Suspense “The Ten Years” if anyone needs an example of her acting chops.
@@stevers62 Well said; I agree totally.
@@patr70 Bette was the best actress in history. But Joan was brilliant on and off screen. In film, Joan's career was much greater than Bette's and Joan had a talent for other areas such as the business world (she was the first woman at a company board of directors) and the impact that Joan had on adopting Christina. She was the first single adoptive mother, she changed the law forever, she was a pioneer and the impact she had at that time was spectacular. So Joan Crawford is better than Bette. Davis lost most of his fame living in the country. Joan was more ambitious and hard-working.
Love you Betty💕🦋🦋
Bette.
What talent and boy they were beautiful.
Vincent Sherman certainly believes he is some kind of Lothario!!!
Haha. Definitely a lady's man and very lucky he had the kind of wife who would tolerate it all.
Damn where's the rest of this episode?
Bette killing her husband is completely assesine.... such crap lol 😂😂😂
no one ever said that.
what they said was that she pushed him and he hit his head on the curb. He died three days later. Here is a snippet of the Los Angeles times article of that time: "A Hollywood police report stated that Farnsworth, 35, a former commercial airline pilot, was found unconscious about 4 p.m. along the 6200 block of the boulevard.
Davis told authorities that her husband had “fallen down the stairs two months earlier at their New Hampshire home while running to answer the phone,” the newspaper said."
So, there you have it. She was directly responsible for his death. She actually lied about it and said it was the result of a head injury at home. She should have went to jail for it. For life.
Right?? And even if it did go down the way they claim, it’s not like she was bragging about it or felt nothing about it.
The fact that she confided to anybody at all (if she did) clearly means she felt guilty or some type of way for her perceived part in his health issues.
Not like she was callously waving it off like, “Yeah, so what??”
Also mad love to Vincent Sherman for being the only one to emphatically claim the women were extraordinary and not just egomaniacal nymphs!
Don't believe everything said in this clip.
Anyone know exactly what year this show is from, guessing around mid 80's.
I was wondering the same thing. I assume that it was the late 80s, early 90s. The daytime talk show world changed BIG TIME from about '94 on. And I do believe that half of the panel on this Geraldo clip were gone by the late 90's.
Davis died in 89. They wouldn't dare be talking about her publicly if she was alive.
@Olah I will be more specific. This Geraldo clip had to have been soon after her demise. Sometime 1990's. And as I stated, the one's discussing her wouldn't have said what they did if she was alive. I wonder what your age is. As younger folks seem to know less than they pretend to know about Bette Davis. And Joan Crawford too.
@Olah For 59+ years I'm familiar with the name Bette Davis, the name Joan Crawford. As I recall "What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?" as a child of years, advanced as a child, yet not the age of an adolescent. My parents saw the film in 1962. Coming home from the movie theater in the evening, talking about it. They had photos of stills from the film of Davis & Crawford. I do not idolize Davis. But I certainly know her career, her work, who she was, for the most part. The same with Crawford. I recall both their demise. You are very mistaken with things you're stating on Davis. She worked in films & tv well into her 70's. When she died, she was in Paris, France, there to receive yet one more accolade, honor, from the French. One more to her many, many awards. If you want to express your mindset on legendary thespians, you ought to know what to say. I know them all well because I lived while they existed. I know Susan Sarandon. Just mentioning. Senior citizen here.
@Olah *Still photos
I just got through reading Mamie Van Doren's autobiography, the book mentioned in this youtube. Interesting and hilarious read.
I read that part about Doris Day to which Day denied any wrong doing. I do however believe wholeheartedly from watching Day's reaction at the end of Mamie's dance number (when she walks off and before a closeup shot of Doris smiling/clapping) that Day did indeed have some issue with Mamie. The long shot shows Doris very lightly clapping and she has a sour look on her face. The next shot is a closeup shot of Doris all happy and clapping enthusiastically. They don't match.
Bette Davis was very Jealous of Joan Crawford’s beauty and glamour ... two things Bette Davis didn’t have. Bette was also very resentful of Joan Crawford’s aggressiveness about going after men and getting movie parts.
I believe Joan was jealous and joan was manic depressant and a child abuser
@@dignifiedblackman4742 Joan always had great respect for Bette. And no she wasn't the monster her daughter and that movie made her out to be.
@@Garsons-oq4lh I thought mommie dearest was a pretty good think piece it didn't make her look like a mfelt sorry for her by the ending.
@@dignifiedblackman4742 You are DEAD wrong on everything you wrote. Totally FALSE!
And Joan ENVIED Davis's superior acting ability.
Totally team joan!! ....bette was fscinating and herself..but joan was guarded and tried her best to be herself...at end of day as much as we would like to be like bette...were all actually joan...just trying to fit in....i feel joan...whether we like it or not joan at end of day is like most of us....bette would be facinating at a party gor hours chatting....you would want to talk to joan long after the party well imto the morming...
No
yeah but Joan seems kind of elitist to me. Idk she seemed like the type of person that would be friends with you but sideye you behind your back and later talk sh*t. if Bette didn’t like you, she’d tell you straight up.
Jim Bacon is the only one up there who is telling truth
Spencer Tracy liked men as well allegedly.
They skipped these inconvenient truths in this silly "report."
Joan, I have based my entire career after her.
What do you do?
That is a GREAT Read!!!
I'll have to look into it.
The video doesn't hold a candle to the misery I see in the comments.
That man was lying. You saw that pause at the 1:49 mark
I have listened & watched everything I could on Joan& I adore her. To be fair I haven't done the same with Better Davis,but what I have seen,it seems like she wasn't a very good person
This was juicy And I'm here for it
Mommie Dearest hadn’t even been written when Joan Crawford and John Wayne was having their affair. Just shows really that Geraldo didn’t do his homework or job well.....or even know what he was doing or talking about.
He was always like that! Ugh, to think he had his own talk show for all those years!
While they had Sherry on the phone, he should have been asked about his physical abuse Betty wrote about
Bette
It was the alcoholic Gary Merrill who beat Davis
Fabulous book! Considine did text book of the feud. Its far better and more accurate than the fictitious Feud. Considines book is compulsory reading to understanding the feud
As much as I eat up these old eighties talk show clips where everybody from the studio era was at the end of their lives and just like “fuq it, I’m speaking my piece,” there’s something incredibly cringe about watching these old guys compare and contrast who they “bagged” and who they didn’t, as if the women whose reputations and legacies have outlived them all had none of their own agency or interests in mind when it came to their personal and private lives.
Also they have been slu*-shaming Joan since the literal moment the warmth left her body.
Who cares if she had a carnal veracity to match every one of her male conquests???
The way they have reduced this woman’s incredible legacy to her ascending the ladder of success on her back is INSANE to me.
There were a million women trying to “sleep their way to the top” then and since. Yet how many of them have wound up where Crawford wound up?? Literally almost none. They act like being promiscuous is the reason she is the legend she is. Absurd.
Joan and Bette, ironically enough, are two of maybe five women from the “studio” era that are still household names where everybody from Stanwyck to Blondell to so many others are all but forgotten outside of the most dedicated cinephiles.
And it’s not because they f**ked any or all of these crumbly a$$ old white dudes.
Bette Davis hated everybody (especially women) who didn’t agree with her every thought. She was just jealous of Joan Crawford’s beauty. I wouldn’t doubt Bette pushed her husband. Crazy women do that!
Miss a day of meds? How many angry, nasty comments does one need to make on one video? You never met these people. Calm the emotional issues because it's looking like a completely crazy woman as we see comment after comment after comment...
Bette was definitely the hater not Joan.
You knew her personally 🤣🤣🤣🤣you're a hater bye✌
Lmaoooooo....Bette THE ACTRESS had 11 Oscar Noms. Joan the Beauty Kween had 3....Ummmmm...WHO HAS MORE REASONS 2 BE JEALOUS😂😂😂😂
Geraldo was fine back in the day.
Now that he's on FOX, it shows you how far he's fallen !
@@fob1xxl Fox has been #1 for 20 years straight
@@patr70 True, but not with anyone but the MAGA'S !
That mustache omg yass daddy
@@fob1xxlHalf of my friends voted for Trump and the other half voted for Biden.
I wish they'd done a show about how despicable Loretta Young actually was!!
Davis and Crawford were certainly rivals who didn't much like each other, but the notion of a "feud" was largely invented by Considine for his book, and based mostly on unsubstantiated rumours, most of them probably apocryphal. Considine repeated and embroidered all the rumours, even when he couldn't find a scrap of evidence to support them, much less any first-hand witnesses willing to go on the record, even with Davis and Crawford both long gone. All of these rumoured incidents subsequently found their way into Ryan Murphy's Feud, which was served up as though it were all based on "research". Just one example: the oft-repeated story that Joan Crawford lined the hem of her costume with weights for the scene in Baby Jane in which Davis had to haul her Blanche's body across the room... which apparently led to Davis injuring her back. There's zero evidence for this. And it's pretty hard to imagine Crawford altering costumes with needle and thread. Also, if she had, the entire costume department would have known. It's likely Davis's back injury led to someone making a joke about Crawford weighting her costume, and the joke developed into myth and legend. And that's about the level of half the stories that comprise The Divide Feud.
Well, consider Bette's comments upon hearing Crawford's death, "You should never say bad things about the dead, only good. Joan Crawford is dead… good!", so there was a feud , and a big one!
If you want an accurate summary of the so-called feud between Joan and Bette, read the book by Katherine Sermak, Bette's long time assistant.
That's not what I read and I've read 4 book s on John Wayne thought it was Marlena that pursued John Wayne? I don't know have no clue
Biotch! Whre,! From MGM!😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Speak for yourself!!!! There's so Bette Davis out there. I don't want to for it.I want to be myself. Joan Crawford was a Pretentious woman! I surely don't think everyone is a Joan Crawford.
Bette was Warners and Joan also later on
...... making a 'career' out of draggin' up media Shit like This!!
Phil Liverpool UK 🇬🇧
03:16 a jaw like a nutcracker
WHY THE HELL THE INTERUPTIONS?
Interesting. Back before Rivera became a right wing nut. He lost the admirable qualities he possessed after the Marilyn Monroe debacle on the 20/20 TV show.
it's always sad when someone "turns" kind of like the Walking Dead
wait I’ve never heard about that Marilyn Monroe debacle, what happened?
@@stxrstrxckmxteo515 It was ABC 20/20. They had a fully researched show on the MM/RFK affair. It was advertised on TV, then things started happening. First it was cut down to about 30 minutes, then 15, then yanked altogether right before air time. In it's place was shown a segment on K9 Police Dogs. Come to find out the decision was made by Roone Arlisge ABC President, and close friend of Ethel Kennedy. Sylvia Chase and Geraldo Rivera quit in protest. Hugh Downs and Barbara Walters also protested saying the story had greater verification than anything ever done on the show. Marilyn has made a huge impact on literally countless people, especially those trying to surpress the truth.
Jack N and Anjlicia Huston.
@@chrislogan7574 scrolling for chicks? 😀
A man had an affair with Hepburn? Did anyone tell her? Please, Kate did not have an interest in men on that level.
I don’t think you can envy acting! That’s just stupid !!!
Shameful Bettes family sold off her Oscars.... But what became of Joan's Oscar?
Garbage, the beginning of any decent programming in the USA!