How to program KNX Devices - KNX Programming Tutorial
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มี.ค. 2018
- This is the second episode of Smart Home Automation Series, regarding KNX. In this episode you will learn how to program KNX devices using ETS 5.
Please have in mind that in order to work on a KNX project you need to be certified.
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All the drawings of this tutorial are made with Smartdraw :
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KNX Web Page : www.knx.org/knx-en/index.php
ETS Software : www.knx.org/knx-en/software/e...
KNX Training : my.knx.org/
KNX Basic Course Documentation : amzn.to/2pASDCM
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Tools
Facom Cable Stripper : rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53...
Knipex Electronics Super Knips Comfort Grip : amzn.to/2EO76Fg
Knipex Self Adjusting Insulation Strippers : Knipex 1262180 Self Adjusting Insulation Strippers
Bright Red Led Screwdriver Multi Tool Voltage Tester : amzn.to/2FqTyMJ
KNX Devices :
Vimar KNX Switch : www.vimar.com/en/int/catalog/...
Weinzierl KNX Baos 777 : www.weinzierl.de/index.php/en...
MDT KNX Dimming Actuator : www.mdt.de/EN_LED_Controller.html
K-Bus KNX Power Supply : www.video-star.com.cn/en/Produ...
Electric Devices
Schneider Electric Circuit Breaker : www.schneider-electric.com/en...
Master Electric LED Controller : www.master-electric.gr/produc...
Mean Well 24V DC Power Supply : amzn.to/2EPx62U
Led Stripe 24Volts : rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53...
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Thank you all for your support!
KNX Tutorials Playlist : th-cam.com/play/PLNJVyvij10Ftuv3Ng7gcBgU-Ztco8T_SJ.html
Great tutorials, thank you.
But please enable CC/subtitles in your videos.thanks
Great video! Thank you this detailed tutorial! Looking forward for the next one.
Thank you!
Amazing tutorial. There are not enough words to thank you. Thank you so much for your great effort.
Thank you for your support!
Amazing tutorial. There are not enough words to thank you. Thank you so much for your great effort. We hope to see such a wonderful tutorial in the upcoming episodes. Thanks again.
Today, I received the THINKA from Thinka EU . I'm excited to try it, especially because it works with Apple HomeKit. Can you please talk to us about the voice controller like Siri (Apple HomeKit), Alexa (Amazon), and Google Assistant (Google Home) and what are the devices (gateway/ bridge) need to work with KNX with full control and access such as Thinka, RealKNX (proServ/proKNX), and so. How it's work and what is the best device for this situation. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much for your support!
I will definitely make a review for voice control in the next episodes!
That's great. We really appreciate what you have done and you will do for us. Thank you so much.
Great Tutorial, I really learned a lot from you. keep up the good work.
Thank you!
Now if he could do this faster my eyes will roll around my head!
Thank you for the information - i will watch this afew more times!
You are welcome! You are right about the video. Maybe we had to split it in 2 or 3 smaller videos...
Hi, great tutorial. I am having trouble setting up a Steinel outdoor sensor to ETS5. is this something you can help with?
Thank you very much for the great video, im waiting for your next videos
Thank you for your kind words!
Nice tutorial!
Thank you so much for great video! It's very great intro I'm just starting with KNX
Thank you so much for your comment and support!
Thank you so much for your video.
It has taught me so much about the programming and how to control all types of lights.
Could you please do a video on how to control presence sensors & their parameters?
Thank you for your comment! It is in our plans a video regarding KNX Presence Detector!
Your work is amazing, thank you
You are welcome! Thank you for your comment!
Thx a lot for your videos. You are the best!
Thank you for your kind words!
Great tutorial video. Thanks for sharing your practical experience. Please do a video on Maestro Interface with scenes and energy saving.
Thank you! Please send me more information about "Maestro Interface".
Thanks, great and systematic explanation.
Thank you!
very informative video .thanks
Very useful video! It would be perfect you to shoot a video about creating scenes and/or assigning more than one action to one switch. There are several videos on TH-cam but none of them are as clear as yours.
Thank you for your comment! We will definitely make one video about scenes...
Thank you its amazing video . Please do more videos for programing
Thank you for your kind words! There a lot of upcoming videos!
Good stuff man thanks
What is the appeoximately the price for that MASTER LED CONTROLER LD250?
Very useful video! Thank!
Thank you for your comment!
hello, Thank you for your clear and best video, i am really a new beginner for KNX and I try to follow you and copying the same thing that you do , but I could not find the IP address in the IP tunneling an i can not test my project . Does the demo ETS can make a test.
If you cannot find the IP address from ETS then use an IP Scanner like the Advanced IP Scanner.
Hey, thanks you for the tutorials, i have a question. does ETS program sutiable for programming HDL devices ?
ETS is manufacturer independent software. So you can program every device as long as is KNX! So you can program and KNX HDL devices.
Great videos and really I was looking for these kind of explanation from period of time! and your project is very clear. My question is can use RFID reader to knx? and what about glass touch panel is knx support it as well? if yes could you explain that to us please. thank you very much
Thank you for your comment! You can use RFID reader to KNX and touch panels. I believe sometime i will make a video for these!
Thank you sir much appriciated.
Awesome video, I think you have the best KNX tutorial on TH-cam. I have a quick newbie question. Let's say I want to add a second switch that replicates the same functions of the one you have in the video, green and red light, LCD dimmer. (imagine the two switches placed at the ends of a wide room). Can I add the second switch's group objects the same existing group addresses? Or should I duplicate the group address, one per switch? Thanks in advance for your time.
You don't have to create new Group Addresses. You must drag and drop the Group Objects of the new switch to the existing Group Addresses (Red Light, Green Light, etc) or you can use the extended copy app for ETS 5 (my.knx.org/shop/product?product_type_category=etsapps&product_type=extended-copy)
Thank you very much, it really helps make things clear in my mind... By the way, could you show me about the configuration of the IP interface, the IP address, and how to easily connect the system to the local network...
Thank you for your comment! You can find details about the IP Interface to the following video : th-cam.com/video/2It2pQsjwAM/w-d-xo.html
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Great work.. Keep it up
activate the CC Mode to see the subtitles, Plz
Thank you! The subtitles for all KNX videos will be ready at the end of this month.
Hello, again thanks for your videos. Where can we see the individual address of the devices ? how can we see it after pressing the programing button ?
Hi! You can check the individual address of the device in ETS. Open Diagnostics and select Individual Address and Programming Mode. Then press Start and press the programming button of the device that you want to learn the individual address. You will see then the individual address in ETS.
Wow you made KNX looks so god damn easy... Nice thanks
You are welcome! Thank you for your comment!
Why on home assistant we have only 4 addresses for dimmer potential?
The tutorial is really amazing. Could you provide the devices you are programming and also where we can buy them and cost budget.
Thank you for your comment. All the devices are listed in the comment section of this video but i will write them also here in order to be easier to find :
KNX Devices :
Vimar KNX Switch : www.vimar.com/en/int/catalog/product/index/code/20840
Weinzierl KNX Baos 777 : www.weinzierl.de/index.php/en/all-knx/knx-devices-en/knx-ip-baos-777-en
MDT KNX Dimming Actuator : www.mdt.de/EN_LED_Controller.html
K-Bus KNX Power Supply : www.video-star.com.cn/en/ProductsDetail.aspx?code=010107&id=27
As for the cost you will have to speak with the distributors of your country. For example for Greece :
Vimar Hellas : www.vimar.com/el/gr/επικοινωνία-4090122.html
Weinzierl and K-Bus Products : www.technodome.gr/contact/
MDT Hellas : mdt-knx.gr/mdt/05contact.html
How can I get ETS File for power supply GVS ?
Very good video. thanks
Thank you for your comment!
Hello thanks for the video may I know how do I connect the laptop software to knx hardware? Do we need to use lan cable?
Hi! You will need a KNX USB Interface, like the one in this video : th-cam.com/video/Z6oRwnfhpRY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=J8Sn29wZB_pDfBG4 This is the most common method for beginners. I use in my installations KNX IP Interfaces in order to program the KNX Devices using WiFi or ethernet cable. If in the installation there is no WiFi, I use this KNX WiFi Interface : th-cam.com/video/xhUunhuyba8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=DFzMNYz4ImBIJW5t
Thank you need another help, the Knx wire is coming from which switch? My beard has many switch. Also where can I buy that usb from?
@PoseidwnTech I see you6are using MacBook Pro for programming. Which Software for emulating windows are you using?
Is everything working fine with connection over ethernet?
Hi! In my team we use Parallels with Windows 10 in MacBook Pro with Intel and Parallels with Windows 11 in MacBook Pro with M1, M2.
Really well done. Just a question, I have an existing installation with many switch actuators (5WG1 567 1AB12). How do I get the current configuration?
Hi! This will not be easy. From Diagnostics in ETS you can use Group Monitor. In a similar situation like yours i used the manual switch of the actuators in order to take notes for the controlled lights and then i made a new project in ETS.
@@PoseidwnTech Ok, thank you very much for your help. I did a script to test all possible groups (with "knxtool read" running all the night long) and at least I have the association of each GA (group address) to PA (physical address) of the actuator. Now to understand the actuator channel associated with a GA I will send a telegram the the GA with knxtool and check which "led" turns on the actuator. In this way I don't have to reprogram the wall switches but only the actuator and I will also add a "broadcast" group to every channel to switch off everything from a single button!!!
Can I dim my led strip's without dimming actuator? But only with a KNX Switchblock ?
For the LED strip you will need a KNX Dimmer 1-10V
Hi
Great video tutorial.
But I have a question.
Can I programing part of existing KNX bus without ETS5 project ?
Can I download existing program from KNX bus ?
Yes but it will be risky. Without the ETS project you will not know the individual address of the KNX devices neither the Group addresses. So you will have to use Group and Bus monitor in order to figure out the structure of the project.
Thanks for this video. There is a real dearth of content on the Internet about KNX. I wonder if you you might be able to produce a similar video using KNX virtual - a really basic one for beginners.
Thank you for your comment! At the moment is not in our plans to make video about KNX virtual. I believe though that the tutorials for the KNX Virtual from KNX Association are amazing! The link is : th-cam.com/video/aqu9ie8Oo6s/w-d-xo.html
Hi, where can i purchase all the knx product shows in ur video?
For the KNX products you will have to contact either your local KNX distributor or each manufacturer!
Weinzierl KNX Baos 777 : www.weinzierl.de/index.php/en/all-knx/knx-devices-en/knx-ip-baos-777-en
Vimar KNX Switch : www.vimar.com/en/int/catalog/product/index/code/20840
MDT KNX Dimming Actuator : www.mdt.de/EN_LED_Controller.html
K-Bus KNX Power Supply : www.video-star.com.cn/en/ProductsDetail.aspx?code=010107&id=27
what happens if you press 2 switches "at the same time"? will there be congestion on the BUS magistrale? with one device not being able to receive the command?
When you press a button for example to turn on a light the KNX Switch will send a telegram to the bus. The transmission of the telegram starts after the bus has remained unoccupied for at least a time period. So since you press 2 buttons at the same time the 1st one will send the telegram and the light will be turned on. The second one will also send the telegram but it will receive a "BUSY" acknowledgment so it will repeat the transmission.
How to find individual ip address of other usb interface without the screen on it? I have used one from the other project.
I believe that you mean other IP Interface. Open ETS5 and go to Bus. Normally under "Discovered Interfaces" you will find your KNX IP Interface. If your IP Interface is not listed there then you have to use a network scanner like Advanced Port Scanner ( www.advanced-port-scanner.com) in order to locate it!
Hi,
I have a question, and I don't really know nothing about knx, just watching some vidéos.
I have a ETS5 and I can connect to KNX IP interface in a property....is there way to download the projet ? ( knxproj) .
Some lights seem malfunctioning, so I would like to try to solve the issue.
Thank you very much.
Unfortunately KNX doesn't work this way! If it's not a big installation I would suggest to re-program the KNX devices.
@@PoseidwnTech
Thank you for your answer.
So how do you proceed in KNX when you face an issue like only one button doesn’t turn on the light in a house ?
It’s a device issue ? or it can be also a knx issue even if nobody touch the programmation.
Is it possible to put a device in programming mode through the bus? I have devices that are mounted in the ceiling and not accessible
Of course it is! Open ETS and go to BUS --> DIagnostics --> Individual Addresses --> Individual Address Check and on individual address box write the physical address of the KNX Device that you want and press "Check Existence". If there is indeed a device with this physical address the box next to "Individual Address" will become Green. Then from Device LED just press on and your Device will be in programming mode!
@@PoseidwnTech Super! I thought the ON and OFF buttons where just to light on the LED.
thank you.
You are welcome!
Where is all the settings saved, does the pc have to be permanently connected?
The PC with ETS software is used in order to program the KNX Devices. Then all the parameters and the Group Addresses are stored in the memory of each KNX Device so you don't need the PC anymore!
very good
Thank you for your comment!
Nice
Exo kanei to Ecampus kai tora mporo na agoraso to ETS5 Lite me 60 Euro. Auto einai arketo gia 20 Devices. Alla 20 devices einai px ena switch me 20 Channels gia elegxo fotismou einai 1 device. Meta kathe diakoptis an valo se kathe domatio pianontai kai auta san device i mono oti uparxei ston pinaka? An pianontai auto simainei oti prepei na agoraso to amesos epomeno paketo pou einai to Professional.Sosta? Pou kostizei 1000 euro? I mporo na kato kati allo? Na to paro pio ftina ?
To ETS5 Lite είναι πολύ καλό για να αρχίσεις. Device είναι κάθε συσκευή που συνδέεται στο BUS. π.χ. 1 ενεργοποιητής 24 θέσεων είναι μια συσκευή, ένας διακόπτης 1 συσκευή, 1 αισθητήρας φωτεινότητας 1 συσκευή κτλ. Αν το έργο σου έχει παραπάνω από 20 συσκευές τότε χρειάζεσαι το ETS5 Professional. Mετά την επιτυχή ολοκλήρωση του e-Campus εκτός από το κουπόνι έκπτωσης για το ETS5 Lite, σου δίνουν και έκπτωση προκειμένου να αναβαθμίσεις το ETS5 Lite σε ETS5 Professional.
@@PoseidwnTech Καλησπερα κ μπραβο για τα βιντεο σου...Επειδη σπιτι μου εχω 23 συσκευες KNX to est5 lite δεν θα μου διαβασει τις 3?Θα διαλεξω εγω τις 3 που δεν θελω να προγραμματισω?Δεν θα δουλευει καθολου?Ευχαριστω πολυ κ συνεχισε την ωραια προσπαθεια...
Is ETS commercial, do i have to pay for it?
The free version of ETS is ETS Demo where you can program up to 5 KNX devices!
Do you need a power supply for every device?
1 KNX Power supply is for 64 KNX devices!
Hi,Thanks for your gr8 tutorial. Can u plz tell me how to start learning about KNX from scratch?
your channel is awsome,but the videos dont have a specific order.
Thanks a lot
Thank you for your comment! Indeed my videos for KNX does not have a specific order but a biggener should watch 1) Smart Home - How to start with KNX : th-cam.com/video/ASOsGzDywXI/w-d-xo.html and 2) How to program KNX Devices - KNX Programming Tutorial : th-cam.com/video/WxD8TScEAP4/w-d-xo.html
Of course the best solution is to learn from a KNX certified training centre : www.knx.org/knx-en/for-professionals/community/training-centres/
I did the same and it is a great learning experience!
Poseidwn Tech Thanks a lot
You are welcome!
sir,,,,,,,,,,,,what is the EIB 36 modules panel?????
I am not sure that i understand your question.
can i contact you private?
Καλησπέρα, έχεις πάρα πολύ χρήσιμα βίντεο! Είναι εφικτό να βάλεις υπότιτλους ή να τα βάλεις (όσα δεν υπάρχου) και στο άλλο κανάλι σου με ελληνική επεξήγηση? Σαν προτεραιότητά μετάφρασε αν μπορείς τα βίντεο με KNX
Πλέον δεν έχουμε άλλο κανάλι εκτός από το Poseidwn Tech. Η αρχική ιδέα ήταν να δημιουργήσουμε 2 κανάλια ένα ελληνικό και 1 αγγλικό αλλά χρειαζόταν πάρα πολύ χρόνο και για τα δύο, οπότε αναγκαστήκαμε να εγκαταλείψουμε την ιδέα... 😔 Οι υπότιτλοι είναι μια λύση αλλά απαιτεί και αυτό πολύ χρόνο οπότε δεν είναι στα άμεσα σχέδια μας. Μακάρι το κανάλι μας στο TH-cam να μεγαλώσει αρκετά ώστε να δουλεύουμε μόνο γι αυτό και να έχουμε χρόνο και για ελληνικά video!
I have KNX in my home, but the electrical company refuse to give me the ets project file so that I can do small changes. They have given me an outprint of all the group addresses and all the individual addresses, but that is almost useless.
I have understood that I need to reprogram almost every device if I want to have new functionality which I know exists in the switches. As an example I want to change from comfort mode to economic mode in the thermostats when the electricity is expensive. I will then need to provide a group address for this comfort mode function in the Gira switch. Then I can change this from Home Assistant or my Logic Machine Reactor v3 for example
I am reluctant to try it on my own because I dont want to break anything. Everywhere else in technical systems you can look at the existent config and change only one tiny bit. If it is still ok you can go on, if not roll back. This is not possible with knx.
It is very easy to make small or big changes in KNX with the ETS Software. I believe that after the installation the ETS Project belongs to the home owner if there are no economical issues, or maintenance contract. But be aware that if the customer wants the ETS Project to make changes on his own, then the electrical company is not any more responsible for the installation.
@@PoseidwnTech You are probably right about their hesitation, but they are very good at rejecting all responsibility if the customer has done the slightest thing. Here in Norway there are 5 years to make reclamations but in respect to the electrical system this boils down to fuses, switches or devices that doesnt work any longer. Has happened once in now 4 years.
But I am interested in someone that can do the KNX part for me. Or at least one switch so that I can do the rest myself.
Μπράβο τρομερό βίντεο
Σε ευχαριστώ!
Poseidwn Tech θα ήθελα να μου απαντήσεις σε κάποιες ερωτήσεις μου όσο αφορά το προγραμμα.αν μπορείς να μου δώσεις κάποιο email.Αν δεν έχεις χρόνο δεν θα παρεξηγηθώ πες το μπυ
You can contact us at info@poseidwn.tech
Please add subtitle file in english.
Thank you for everything:))
It is in our plans! Thank you!
Γεια σου και απο μενα. Σε ευχαριστω πολυ για το βιντεο και μου αρεσε που το πιασες απο το 0 γιατι με τα αλλα δεν τα καταλαβαινα ολα. Μπορεις να κανεις και αλλα βιντεο ετσι λεπτομερη. πχ για το Dali , επισης για το συστημα πρακτικα θεματα πως κανουμε ενα σωστο πλανο τι να υπολογισουμε και τι να προβλεψουμε κτλ.
Σε ευχαριστώ για το σχόλιο! Θα υπάρχουν σύντομα και άλλα video για το ΚΝΧ...
τι πιστεύεις ότι αξίζει κάποιος να ασχοληθεί με KNX vs η QBUS
Με το QBUS δεν έχω ασχοληθεί οπότε δεν μπορώ να εκφέρω γνώμη. Για το KNX έχω να πω ότι δουλεύει 30 χρόνια τώρα, υποστηρίζεται περίπου από 500 κατασκευαστές και ότι ακόμα και αν έχεις σε μια εγκατάσταση τον πρώτο KNX διακόπτη που βγήκε πριν από τόσα χρόνια μπορείς να ελέγξεις για παράδειγμα μια κάμερα του 2019 χρησιμοποιώντας drug & drop από το ETS!!!
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@@PoseidwnTech saving the time stamp to come back to
I sell this yellow and white KNX connector
wow
his accent is killing me...
I respect your opinion! The good thing is that you didn't have to pay for this video! So just search for another tutorial!
I have watched 5 ADS to see the full video ! please reduce it cuz its boring.
Unfortunately on a longer video the number of ADS is higher. ADS allow us to keep our channel free from sponsor and be able to provide more objective and valuable content.
Great Tutorial, I really learned a lot from you. keep up the good work.
Thank you for your comment! In a few days new KNX tutorials, so stay tuned...