Installing KNX which is frankly AWESOME!!!!!!!😎😎😎 | Thomas Nagy
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- In this video I run you through a KNX system fitted at a customer's house in London.
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Getting more and more like cars, just as the mechanics get reliable it will be the electrics and software that lets it down. Great job, thanks for sharing.
That must be (is) the tidiest consumer unit installation i've ever seen, and i've seen a few. Well done Tom.
Nice to see such a neat consumer unit.
We were installing knx and recessed long light 20 years ago in my country. Welcome to the modern World Thomas!
Great video ! Good look at the Knx stuff ! I miss installs like this having moved into maintenance!
That second fix didnt disappoint Tom. The D boards are a work of art. I install industrial CAN network and ProfiBus equipment fairly regularly and can see KnX/Dali appearing more often on Domestic/Commercial installs. Great work mate.
Nice video! My OCD was very satisfied with your fuse board terminating 😍⚡️
One of, if not the neatest consumer unit I’ve seen. 👌🏼
the board looks so tidy, i love it
The consumer unit looks fantastic Thomas, you can tell a lot about a sparks by looking at their DB board and you obviously take a lot of pride in your work. :)
Nice neat work , keep the vids coming . Awesome 😀
I have not seen such a tidy board in the UK for a long time. Nicely done. Looks great.
Hi Thomas, thanks for the video. At least one of the few on youtube that are in English. Is there a way to do a detailed KNX installation perhaps on your next KNX project.
Thanks.
The board looks awesome, I like how the wires are dressed.
We’re a special breed aren’t we. I once opened an old GPO box termination in a 1920s building in Manchester - marvellous bit of telephone wiring, back when people took pride in their work, unlike Openreach(around)
I like the effort you made to keep it neat - why don't all electricians work this neatly! Thanks for sharing.
Works alot like our Danish LK IHC and IHC Wireless. Have plenty of empty pipes in all directions. Customers always want to expand the system as soon as the start using it. That’s why we have the wireless modules now.
Great job. Nagyon ügyes munka, most kezdem, remélem még sokat tanulok tőled.
Knx is innovation for residence and buildings, I'm at the beginning of my 17 year old! Brazil!!!
11,000 views in 12 hours! Go Team Nagy. Great Vid - thanks Tom.
There are different schools of thought about load distribution in a consumer unit. Personally , I don't put all the high current circuits closest to the main switch by default, after all, how long a time period is a electric shower going to be active in any 24 hour period in a domestic setting ? I tend to balance the loads ( heat wise ) across the consumer unit rather than concentrate them.
Beautiful neat work. Tidy board -> tidy mind -> tidy job (I suspect). Choosing which tradesman to ask to do a job is always a challenge; on all the available evidence, your work looks great.
Hey Tom I'm an electrician in canada, can't stop watching your videos even tho they have nothing to do with canadian electrical, but you do some fine work boss, keep it coming.
david collinge are you residential elec, or commercial/industrial elec? Do you see much lighting controls on your jobs?
Very nice! And thanks for your opinion on ring circuits. I agree 100 per cent, except where a lot of sockets are on a very long cable run, in which case an intelligently layed out ring can be better in terms of volt drop. But even then, one could start the radial with a larger cable, and reduce the size later in the circuit (a 32A could start in 6mm and reduce to 4mm further down).
Nice install.
I have a wylex isolator switch which allows for two sets of tails out of the bottom.
Much nicer looking than Henley blocks.
Another great talk through Tom 😊 I’m not an election but I find your channel really interesting and informative with fun attached to it......😆 It’s sunny out side and we’ve not seen your bike out yet lol 😆 Stevie.
Nice, We are getting into the electronic switches too. Wifi switches and receptacles seems to be popular here. Electrical trade is going more electronic all the time as new ways to do old things. Every receptacle in a house here must be arc fault protected so that adds about $1000+ to the electrical installation bill. Love the videos and please keep they coming. Would like to see the mains coming into a house from the utility and going to the meter socket. Conduit is used to the electrical panel.100 amp services here is common for average house with 200 amp for bigger residences. Thanks from this old burnt out electrician in Canada.
Lovely wiring inside the CU case!
Great information, just ordered a few of those Contactum Defenders they look awesome. What trunking are you using between?
Can you do more on KNX and Automation on this channel?
Nice job Tom.
Nice work!, Greetings from Chile :)
Hi Tom....Nice job....Could you tell us all about the maximum demand on the 20 way boards you are installing...and do you have a 100Amp main fuse on that little lot?
That fuse board though 😍😍
@Thomas Nagy, 5:00 , I've installed a few of those at a large construction place. They are horribly tight for our wires. Normal 5G1.5 cables with Phase, Neutral ,Ground and two Dali. I prefer the cheaper knock off Chinese like product they opted for instead. Much better spacing and works just as well.
A 20-way Main Switch board... That’s one expensive board but something’s tells me money wasn’t an issue on this job 😉
Awesomeness
Hi Thomas, I just subscribed. I was wondering where I can get the recessed led strips from? I am looking for this sort of thing for a job I am doing.
Where did you learn to wire with knx and other kinds of smart home technology?
I am training to be electrician all our love to all for you . Your the best
That consumer unit is incredible, love it if you can share your method
Hey love your vies ;)
What is the name of the ceiling led strips ?
Hi Tom, what sort of training course did you do for the KNX and do you do the commissioning as well?
Do you have a link for those recessed LED strips please?
Do you have to have a red colourd braker for smoke detectors/fire panels as at the place that I work at thay have them
Not the breaker as such. The Fire panel circuit is kept separate to everything else, and you can label it with a red ident so its hard to mistakenly isolate it. An engraved fused outlet is installed adjacent to the panel.
Us poor folk have to go the cheap way. "Alexa, dim the living room lights". xD
Do you only have one live/fused feed going into the KNX board? Is that because there's only one floor of lighting circuits? If you had a larger property with multiple floors and perhaps KNX heating and blinds would you have more live feeds coming from the distribution board?
Yeeaahh a new video 👍🏻👍🏻
Love that super tidy board. Tom. Ive completed my AM2 and would love to come and work for you. If you need an additional spark to build upon the NAGY SPARKY EMPIRE I'm ya man. 👍
What's the antagonism to ring circuits? I'm genuinely interested.
very interesting you are connecting KNX to Dali LED driver.
Really like your channel it’s a good insight to what it’s really like to be an electrician. You may get this question a lot but what’s the best way to be an electrician when you’re already in a full time job. Is an apprenticeship a good start or college or a home study corse?
Your board is so neat and tidy, but as a panel builder in Ireland I am happy that the set-up of board/trunking/board etc would never happen here, normally contractor has a bespoke board built complete with all switchgear and knx in it together usually all wired to terminals with usually about 25% spare space for future use, it means you only have one thing to mount with one door and all in one enclosure. Board also comes complete with terminal matrix which explains all circuits. Drop me a line and I'll sort you out😂😂
What are those long lights 6 minutes in to the video? They are awsome, would love to have those!
Good vid mate
Hi Thomas hope all’s good. Wondered if one day you could explain what the neutral wire does? Lots of conflicting info. on the net and everyone has their own way of explaining and would be good to hear from you. My understanding is that it is common to all three phases and is connected to the star point at the local substation. The neutral therefore carries current but no voltage as there is no potential difference as the phases cancel each other out. You therefore don’t get a shock by touching it on its own. The star point is also referenced to earth at the substation providing additional protection against shock. When connected to a load and a phase conductor there is a potential difference present at 230v and current flows. Is that understanding correct or not? Kind regards, Steve
Out of interest what band of knx stuff are you using? Controller/switches etc. Thanks
When downloading the program to the device, the download fails and it prompts that there is an error writing to the memory block. What is the reason?
Have you ever wired up a grow?
Same fuseboard I fitted last week I personally hate RCBOs for terminating. Them windy earth and neutral tails are a pain to keep straight an tidy. How did u manage to keep them so tidy? Mine are usually filled with cable ties
Yokes Magee cut them down and ferrule them
Why do you not like ring circuits? Do you think radial circuits are a better job?
Hi Thomas, never installed this lighting but it looks like addressable lighting, a bit like the addressable fire alarm systems that just sends a data signal to the actual fitting which you want to control....neat idea!
Dali
In Australia for what you call KNX we use philips Dynalite
Quick hack for you
if you measure the current output and drop it by 25% using the correct resistor on those drivers
you'll barely notice the drop in light level but the LED's will last longer
KNX, CBUS and Dali!! Fitted a dimmer switch for an elderly couple a while back whose son recommended it would be a good addition to their living room lighting plan...
Had three call back's from the couple saying it worked the odd time and sometimes the light was not bright enough!! In the end you guessed it I replaced it with the old on/off switch...
Smart lighting is not for all... Guess it will take a few generation's to completely adapt to it...
Brian Kelly it sounds like it would have been better for them if you install components that actually worked instead of one's that intermittently didn't function the way it was programmed to.
I home run all my lighting circuits back to node 0 room, then all my relays and io are in one place.
Have you tried alexa to control the lights? They can be dimmed, timed and automatically switched on when you arrive home.
Hi Tom. I would much apriciated if you could give me the product name and the supplier for the recess lights. Kind regards Norbert,
PS. Love your videos..
Scrolling through the comments - I cannot find what make or model those led light fittings are.. they are beautiful and we want them ... you point me in the direction of where you got them or their exact name ??? Please and thank you.
Which brand are the recess lights?
What’s the issue with ring circuits?
Where did you learn to do KNX systems
Is that multiple flats. If so would have expected a ryfeild
Do you do a lot knx systems?
I have no idea what your talking about for half the video but its still entertaining af
I need to know what the recessed lights at min 5:55 are. Can anyone help me out and point me to the product name?
🤔 Things that are fustrating in the uk.. Ring circuits, solid core cable, bare earth, 110v on site, metal back boxes 😊👌
Love the videos though keep em coming
solid cable in the uk seriously?
Abdul Khan I wish someone would introduce stranded cable with an earth that already has insulation on it 😊
Only solid when house bashing, stranded cable used in propper electrical work i.e industrail electrical work 😉😊
play nicely or you will be asked to leave the ball pool!!! ;-)
Out of interest, if you don't fit ring mains, how would you wire a socket circuit where you need in excess of a 20A radial?
I don't know if there's something special about UK regulations regarding this, but in rest of Europe you just use 4mm2 cables instead of the standard 2.5mm2. Then again, why would a standard socket in a flat or house be over 16A? Just out of curiosity because I've never seen a standard household socket strip have over a 16A breaker. I would understand for devices not connected to sockets (like air-air or water-air heating pumps) to have over 16A, but never a regular standard socket where you would plug in like say, a TV.
As a side note, wire size for household socket circuits are often bigger than 2.5mm2 if you have long lines, because the short circuit current becomes too low so the breaker doesn't trip and one way to increase short circuit current is to increase the cross section.
Doddle to replace....assuming you can still get the same size/model in 5yrs or so :)
Even if it was available, it'll be special order item at triple the price.
It's just led strip just cut a new one easy lol
its a custom led strip. Not a regular one
Putting the heavy load from right to left? Here in Sweden, we do from left to right. To be fair you're driving on the wrong side of the road as well. Thank you for uploading :)
Gonkie you Swedes used to drive on the correct side until you made the mistake of changing😉
The reality is it doesn’t make blind bit of difference where the loads go. It’s just something all electricians do on single phase boards, get to three phase boards or bus bar chambers and the loads will be all over the place.
It’s always been good practice to install the higher current rating MCB’s closest to the main Switch to descending current loads. We Drive on the left because predominantly most people during the medieval times as of today are right handed. So knights passed each other on the left to utilise their right hands which would draw the swords. It’s remained the same ever since.
As your Swedish, you should be more concerned about the cucked state or your nation.
Ah a Zennio z41. Are you programming the ETS project yourself?
thanks
I installed a KNX system for a ~250m² house a few weeks ago. it really is awesome, IF you know how the software works :D
Do tell more about it please
If the LED units are getting that hot could this become a fire hazard ? Nice to see that crazy Italian sparky does do your DB's (cables like spaghetti every where ) Nice neat boards .
I will only have RCBO systems. Incidentally, whilst I can understand electricians not liking ring circuits, for kitchens, utilities and workrooms 32A circuits are still what's needed for flexibility so make those 4mm^2 radials.
Hello Thomas and because of you im interested in being an electrician, but I need help with how to become it. im applying for a college but I don't know what specific course I should take to make me a professional electrician.
Pre apprenticeship course then look for a apprenticeship jib should be able to help
I can't get my head over how they use control wiring for panels and machine cords for wiring.
How many f***ing lumen this place going to have?! It too bright already! :D
Also serious OCD on fusebox wiring, good job Tom! :D
Why are you mounting on ply?
Death to ring circuits! I've seen some here in the US in a few very old properties. It's always a nightmare.
your putting a knx cable into a dali device? i hope you mean dali on dali, since youhave a dali knx gateway...
also, i see you use the of the best things about KNX, its open, so different manufacturers, your using GIRA for the psu and the gateway, and theben for the switching of the normal non-dali lamps, quite nice. i used dali in a big gym to control the lighting, in a building that has KNX, and i build out a little gimmic making the light "wave" trough the gym, now the maintainance guy can show of the lights using that. they even use that function to get attention if the break on a game is almost over and stuff, to get people back into the gym.
And mixing DALI and KNX in one cable probably?
OCD right there - I am joking! Very neat work, certainly better than mine!
Have you heard of LCN? Is it even a thing in the UK? It's a more affordable, simpler to install alternative to KNX, and I personally love it...
Best way big bwoy!!!
I do favour RCBO boards they are a lot less bother than a hover.
I dont mind if its a ring or radial I like the flexibility of 2.5 though!!
What's the evil of ring circuits?
Holy shit that’s neat
That's some flat whereby a 20 way consumer unit is insufficient. There are also two level consumer units which would surely be neater than two separate ones.
please show as much knx as possible :D
Crestron panel next Thomas!
I only shop at ITS now
Enjoying the heatwave in London Thomas? Looking a bit sweaty here.