In the early 2000's HP released a tablet PC running a touch-optimized version of Windows XP. Surprisingly, 14 years later, it's still a fairly competent computer.
2003: Microsoft releases Windows XP for a tablet computer, nobody gave a damn. 2010: Apple releases the iPad, everybody loves it. 2012: Microsoft releases the Surface PC, everybody says MS ripped off Apple.
5:56 "And most importantly right now, since practically nobody has heard about it and is 14 years out of date, it's pretty cheap." Until a *certain* person made a video about it and skyrocketed their price and dwindled their supply.
Yep, once sellers hear about the fact they're cheap they all at once start making the price soo high to the point where they are all no longer cheap and the buyer is forced to pay the hefty price. Now from $15 now it's $115. To even get something close to this, just get a used surface or a cheap Windows x86 tablet that are like $70. Just wait until after I said that. I bet the prices will go as high as $400!
Did their prices really go up after this video was made? With a price like the one shown in this video, it'd be a steal, even if it has the OS version everyone loves to drop support for nowadays.
I just recently discovered your videos, and I have to say this was informative. I actually owned a device similar to the TC 1100, but it couldn't detatch from the bottom part. I think it was a TX1100 or TX1200. It got stolen in 2009.
Could it have been a Fujitsu Lifebook by any chance? Fujitsu made a few Lifebook models that were basically convertible tablet PCs with the functionality of the laptop computer of their time. Mum had one when she worked for the Royal District Nursing Service. It was, basically, a fully feature laptop complete with keyboard, trackpad and even a CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive, but what set it apart was the rotating screen and active stylus. You could rotate the screen and fold it down on the keyboard, and it became a tablet computer, a rather bulky and heavy one. It ran Windows XP Tablet PC edition.
interesting, i had a tablet like this back in the day and in my experience the hand writing recognition was god awful. maybe it's just my shitty hand writing though
Even today, the handwriting recognition on Surface tablets isn't that great unless you write in cursive. It's especially bad when your handwriting is in all caps haha
2003- Microsoft releases Windows Touch Tablet with 100% functionality of Windows and hardware almost at par with it's time. And let's not talk about comfortable upgradability. No one bats an eye. 2010- Apple releases iPad. Not even 10% of the standard hardware and with probably the worst possible OS. People lose their minds, want it right now. 2013- Microsoft releases Surface. Matching industry standard of everything and many more additional features. People claim Microsoft copies from Apple, rate it Bullshit. Want it to go off shelves for being a copy and under par performance. P.S: Even the latest iPad has Hardware Specs faaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr below the Specs of the first Surface. 🙂🙂🙂
The Windows XP tablet was absolute shit though. The iPad was successful because it could be mass marketed; the Windows XP tablet could not. The XP tablet was bulky, had crap battery life, used a real OS and not a touch OS, used a stylus, and was expensive as fuck ($2000+!!!). Also, wireless internet wasn't as mainstream as it is now. The iPad fixed all that. It was thin, had great battery life, used a touch OS, used fingers instead of a stylus, and was reasonably priced ($500 for base model). Also, it had WiFi included but with an option of 3G networks. Microsoft envisioned the XP Tablet as a PC replacement; Apple envisioned the iPad as something between a smartphone and laptop - a netbook killer. Unfortunately for Microsoft they realized this too late and Windows 8 was a massive failure. By then Android had taken over anyway.
Tarman Yeah! Man you're right!!! In 2003, the era till when touch based devices were just a fictional thing, people could gauge the fact that it has a Touch Based OS or not, long battery life or not and all! Now addressing the issues of the Windows tablet you mentioned. Thickness you say? Damn! This was 20mm thick in 2003 whole the original iPad was 14.5 mm thick. Yes, according to today's standards, the iPad is a lot slimmer, but from 2003's Point of View, for a device that was innovating something, the TC 1100 was not a big difference from the iPad, and you also had the ability to dock it and what not which iPad has thought of just last year! Battery life, you comparing this to today's standards man? iPads are battery focussed devices if you ask me. Most iPads have a 5000+mAh Battery while they have Sub-Par performance apart from that. So not fair comparing the two though, but still, if it got support like how iPad did, Windows Tab could get miles ahead of anyone. Apple didn't envision the iPad as a PC Killer because it was crap! Honestly even the latest iPad will struggle to compete with the oldest of Windows or even Mac PCs! And why can't the TC1100 actually be a PC Killer? If Apple sold this same thing, people would lose their minds. This has a battery life (which no PC has/had), had on par power(Processor, Storage, RAM etc.)
Tarman And according to you, the iPad was a winner amongst the two and not a shit given that iPad came 6 Years later. So if clearly only the good device has to win, why didn't that Windows Tablets of 2013 go past iPads? Because Apple has BootLickers! Surface is a clearly better device than any iPad ever. Much sharper displays, improving power and battery life with every new release, much more powerful GPUs, a full-functional touch supported OS that has your back always!
You pretty much explained why Windows XP tablet failed: it wanted to replace the PC, when in fact a tablet SHOULDN'T be a PC killer. A lot of software on the XP Tablet didn't run well because a mouse and keyboard were preferable for many of the apps such as Office, Photoshop, AutoCAD, Cubase, etc. etc. A Tablet shouldn't be a PC killer because people would just prefer to use the PC. Thats what Apple realized and designed the iPad that way. The XP Tablet was dead because it was the wrong produt at the wrong time. The iPad was the perfect product at the perfect time.
Teamlor Windows XP Tablet PC edition is excatly same OS as normal Windows XP, it just has touch support, drivers and more built in touch-software. It isnt worse or weaker. And are iOS and Android tablet OS:es?
yes who wants fucking ipads with a huge appstore full of touch screen optimized applications. better use slow af xp on a 3inch thick tablet with no battery life and an annoying pen.
Lucas C. Wrong, if you were able to completely remove iOs, install windows and the touch-drivers, you would have a really powerful handheld device. There'd be no need for an appstore, you could get freeware
Great video! That "Windows XP nostalgia" is almost pushing me to get one of these, but many of the listings I see on eBay seem to not have the OS installed. Did you find a restore ISO or something similar anywhere?
Mine had the OS installed, though the hard drive was about to fail so I cloned it over to a new SSD. I'm sure you can find a Windows XP ISO online. (Tablet Edition might be harder to find considering it was only released to OEMs, but I'll bet it's out there) The tablets all have a product key sticker under the battery, so you should be able to activate your copy of Windows on it when it installs.
To my knowledge the pen does appear to be pressure sensitive. Not many programs seem to make use of it, but the program at 4:26 will actually change the pen texture as you press harder against the screen.
ah, so it is pressure sensitive in a way! now i just gotta find out if it will run my main art program (probably, it was designed originally for XP) a comparable Wacom tablet would be the Cintic )Probably spelled that wrong) which is just a monitor not a tablet... and is also over 1000$......
Just going to say that there are Wacom tablets under 1000$ so unless you really want to downgrade your art I would recommend against using the tablet in the video
If you really are that short on money, get this I guess, but I'd get a wacom intuos draw in a small size for around 70-80 dollars. Works just as good as any other tablet. I'd see that as MUCH better than this, despite the pen sensitivity. I really doubt something like this was made for art alone, so this is something I'd consider. You can still make some great art if you use this tablet, but it's definitely not making things easier for you.
I was still using one of these for running hardware synth editors until 2016 when the hard drive died. Once I get around to replacing that I'll be using it again. Great machine for running Sunvox, too.
Man, I miss my TC1100. My whole team used them for a couple of years starting in 2004. We also got awesome leather folios that were designed for them so we were the coolest kids in town when we pulled them out in meetings. It was also our introduction to OneNote which was super sweet with the pen.
I agree. My primary school had about 11 iPad airs (one for every class) and nearly all of them were cracked, dented or had a fault. Honestly, I never knew why they bought them.
I had one of these back in the day and it was brilliant. Used to pull it out at meetings and take my notes with the pen on the 'paper' app. Being able to detach the keyboard made it really light for carrying around. One of the problems with it was that the display was subject to strain where it was attached to the computer. This made the solder joints break and the display would eventually fail. :-( Pity, but it is probably the most favourite machine I've owned.
Great video, really enjoyed it! That tablet still looks good to me. It was positively space aged when it first appeared. All the work Microsoft engineers put into that. It really should not have been possible at that time but they pulled it off. A real milestone but it was so expensive and really just too early considering the size of all the parts. I remember hearing that Bill Gates would never be without his, he carried it everywhere under his arm. This is typical of Microsoft, not the Windows team. I mean the R&D engineers that live underground and never see the light of day. They just present ideas to Microsoft heads, if the idea is approved, off they go and just make it. Microsoft has the biggest R&D budget of any company on the planet and it rarely lets anything it makes become a real product. I mean one that is supported and iterated on. The tablet was dropped and wasn't picked up again until Apple came out with theirs and made it look like they'd pioneered the whole thing. I do have a soft spot for Microsoft, or at least parts of it. It's such a huge company. The unsung engineers that are making amazing things like a completely new way to display fonts because they look ugly on fancy new LCD monitors. No one else was doing that. And today we all benefit from that work. Millions spent developing a font rendering engine that made Microsoft exactly $0. Look at Hololens, the original Surface (the big ass table) I could go on but maybe that's a topic for a video, not an overly long youtube comment.
We had one of those in my school when I was younger. You paid a massive premium for it being so small and it was still incredibly weak as a computer. The input device was retarded and most of the time you'd run it connected to a keyboard like a laptop anyway. I honestly can't think of a single use for that tablet which wouldn't suit a laptop or one of the tablets of the day running PalmOS or Windows 2000 better. Perhaps as a portable DVD player with very, very mild computer capability but for something which I remember as priced in the thousands it seems a very slim market when portable DVD players could be had under a hundred pounds/dollars and a very good one at 200. Nothing about this device was all to exceptional except for its price point. Whilst yes it was configured to pop out the on-screen keyboard when it would be needed everything used was already built into normal Windows XP devices of the day and left turned off. Without any installations or external software you could have handwriting recognition, voice recognition, and the on-screen keyboard set up the exact way this computer had. I personally found the handwriting recognition sucked and it almost never managed to pick up a word of mine, the device wasn't powerful enough to manage voice recognition properly, and the on screen tap keyboard was the only input it could manage. Let us also remember that tablets were already commonplace, though only really in a business usage and never as a home system. From an exec using Palm to review spreadsheets data and general organisation to the delivery drivers and warehouse workers using a tablet with the same form factor and a cell phone connectivity to help automate organisation of a warehouse or second to second updates on a delivery. They were usually priced very low with weak processor capability which wouldn't handle the internet or movies (hence not being popular as a home device) and usually ran either custom software or the previous windows. They would be similar to a current low end tablet today with custom tablet software (android rather than windows 8). Nothing about this device was revolutionary beyond the idea "lets make something already produced at 10 times the cost and a similar performance leap". I found it a disgusting waste of money for my school, especially since nobody even saw it after the first 2-3 days post-purchase. I can't think of any use for it and that is very much reflected in the fact that it didn't take off in any sector of the market. Drawing, perhaps. I daresay that the premium for drawing seems a little excessive considering there was already the possibility of wacom tablets and touch screens. Had there been similar internet to today it might have the same function as current tablets with 10 times the price tag but that wasn't the world those days. Also, I had never seen an e-book in those days and pdf files are still easy to annotate using acrobat anyway so you really don't save time in handwriting over typing except that copy/paste and the like won't function with a handwritten note. For $15 sure send it to Africa to aid with education but that only really works now the internet has expanded and because its price is so low. For western education you would do far, far better with a modern tablet able to deal with the more recent office versions and which can manage HTML5 without issue, even if it does cost +2x the price.
We had many Acer tablets running the Windows XP Tablet Edition where I work. They worked excellent. Edit: Maybe not "excellent", but very good, and it got the job done to mark up documents pretty damn well for the time.
Awesome video! Never knew this existed. Might try it out one of these days when I have extra cash. Would be cool to see how far I can upgrade it. Does it have mini-PCIE or was that not around yet?
I've watched 2 videos and have already subscribed love your videos man. I love older electronics and computers so it's good to see a channel talking about and showing them.
ping is not related to operating system, its related to your wifi/ethernet card, your internet connection, and even the server you are trying to connect to. in fact, you would get the same ping on an ubuntu system, i bet.
Nice to see a lot of the pen functionality evolving to be a central part of the experience on Windows 10 devices now, except this time they are really catching on.
lol my gf has one of these, I installed plant vs zombies for her as its was her favorite game at the time. I tried minecraft and the thing almost shat itself.
I owned 2 of these back in the day. Used it as an e-reader and document editor before either concept were being as mass marketed as they are now. One of the greatest investments I ever made in tech way back then. To be honest, I still prefer the bulky feel of tablets and still would rather have middle of the road performance with a great display, mass storage options and excessive battery life. Not a fan of this slimmed down design being touted as the greatest when really all they do is carry over the heat problems into the next generation of computing rather than maintaining an identical form factor and upgrading the cooling system. I also had a Sony UX280 for a bit. Another device worth checking out for sure. If you want to go further back then look into (ultra)widescreen computers literally designed for the internet and email when it all became mainstream. It's interesting because we are actually going back to these older designs now but nobody is really aware of it due to the premium these devices carried early on. A lot of great innovative history in computer technology if you only look.
FluorescentGreen5 Nothing is aleight with Windows 10. The jew of telemetry is built-in and cannot be disabled. You are the slave of Microsoft just like Apple or Google users.
Silver Spoon Then what are you doing on TH-cam, if you're so concerned about telemetry? That aside, I'm happy with Windows 10. Most of the time. It does still have flaws, but go back to Windows 7, an operating system from the same year the original Core i5's were introduced? Meh. It just feels outdated. Windows 8.1 isn't bad either though, imo.
I use an independent and anonymous Google account with strict security and scripts policies. also, my computer runs exclusively on my own distribution of TempleOS, surpassing by far every proprietary operating system created by the Israelite.
Proof that old technology can be useful for something. Even older than this, I have a Toshiba Satillate made back in 1998 that run Windows 98 second edition and has office 97 which everything on that pc still works fine. Its specs are an Intel Pentium processor at 266 mhz, 96 mbs of ram, and a 4 GB hard drive.
I had a Thinkpad X41 convertible tablet, labeled as both IBM and Lenovo, with extended battery it was heavy, clunky, had a dim screen about 5 hours of battery, and maxed out 2.5 GB of RAM. It could do basic gaming like Doom and Halo 1 and GTA III. Excellent keyboard, full array of ports, ethernet, phone jack, PCMCIA, docking station support. It had a shit proprietary 4200 RPM hard drive that died as soon as I got it, it was replaced under warranty with an SSD, thank you IBM! It ran XP pretty good, I later installed Windows 7 on it, that ran okay once you fiddle with drivers to get buttons to work, better handwriting recognition than XP. No graphics driver but could still play TH-cam videos, at least the last time I used it, which was at least five years ago.
Marlo Mamocod my brothers laptop used to run windows Xp but now runs windows 7 fine, but since it's basically an all in one you can't upgrade it to windows 8+ well
There are hundreds of XP tablets, but this is a special one. I remember that we used to have XP desktops in primary school. I'm in year 7 now. (Yes, I'm 11 years old)
You should totally check out the Panasonic Toughbook line. I have a 2005 Toughbook CF-18 Mk 4 and it's 'okay'. 1.6GHz integrated graphics 1GB DDR2 120GB IDE 1024x768 2xPCMCIA 2xUSB Modem/Ethernet, Digitizer, optional GPS, optional 3G, waterproof, etc. I installed Xubuntu and Chromium on it and it makes a *solid* school PC. *Edit* Forgot to mention, turns from laptop to tablet similar to that one. Do not turn the screen the wrong way.
nah, i actually found a really good toughbook (not sure of its age); but this thing is WAY better then most $300 laptops www.ebay.com/itm/172669168363?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true
they are pretty durable too, the plus side of the one i used to own was used as a bludgeoning device during a mugging incident, ... it doubled as a shield from the knife as well, worked fine for a few more years then it got retired.
This thing had some good ideas that I wish modern tablets had. The way brining the pen near the screen moves the mouse resolves most of the compatibility problems mobile devices have in web browsers
Sadly HP went for the traditional swivel screen design on its successors. Truth is, it's one of the last true Compaq designs. (The tc1000, its predecessor, is designed by Compaq before HP's buyout) Nevertheless bits of its design have passed to its successors, particularly the EliteBook 2700 series. Apparently HP did look into their past when they designed the 2710p.
"Portal requires much more VRAM than the Go 420 offers." I had a Pentium 4 laptop with a 32 MB 440 Go GPU when it came out. I installed it ignoring the warnings, set everything as low as it would go, and was able to play at like 2 FPS. Not really playable but it was the only machine I had at the time and I really wanted to play it. Amazingly it was able to run the game start to finish without any real glitches apart from terrible, terrible framerate making some turret and fling sequences difficult.
I think one of my teachers actually used one of these back in high school! I've always wanted one--I enjoy drawing every once in a while, and being able to cleanly scan doodles from paper isn't something I care enough to learn. This would probably be the perfect solution for that!
I remember seeing those back when they came out and I thought they were amazing, but I think their cost was in the $1100 range, which was way too rich for my blood back then. Tablet PCs back then never really sold in huge numbers, mainly being relegated to niche applications like the medical field and warehouse data entry and product scanning. Putting pen input on a desktop OS doesn't produce something that's really all that elegant, which is a main reason they didn't sell well; that HP probably did better because of its dockable keyboard. That situation actually repeats itself with Windows 10; Windows 8 was great for touchscreens once you got used to how it worked but Windows 10 takes a step backwards and is hard to use with a touchscreen without a stylus. My Lenovo tablet has a beautiful Full HD touchscreen and came with Windows 8 but got 'upgraded' to 10 and now I'm glad it came with a keyboard and touchpad (that attaches to it magnetically and connects via Bluetooth) because the touchscreen is pretty much unusable now.
Holy crap Gamemaker and Crazy Machines on a tablet! I wish you could make a video about the experience using them and I would also like to see what kind of experiments you have on there and if you've made any Gamemaker games
Use it to control your WinAmp .MP3 library. Or hook up a pair of 2 TB external HDDs to it and leave the thing plugged into an AC outlet. Many LCD TVs have a VGA/RGB port and a separate PC audio in port. A handy and cheap to rig up wired movie remote control. Of sorts :)
I still have my old Compaq TC1000 (Compaq model just before they rebranded the line over to HP) I ALSO have my TX2500... the TC1000 definitely had some unique charm to it with its ridiculously rigid feeling build!
I remember a Nokia mobile phone running Windows on it, my brother have it once. Can't recall which version of Windows though but the default screen looks like Windows XP.
Honestly, this sounds perfect. A fully modular tablet with a stylus, you can just upgrade it and put newer systems on it if you need internet, especially put some modern power-saving CPU on it. The weight is the cost I am willing to take. Even if the GPU can't be swapped, I guess you can just have integrated graphics on a new CPU and just not use the dedicated old GPU. Can't find it cheap as you did tho, guess the video was too successful hahah.
Fallout 2 and Fallout Tactics are playable on the TC1100 with the pen. Unfortunately Fallout 1 does not work with the digitizer for some reason. I never was able to figure out why, still playable nonetheless.
I didn't know something like this existed already in 2003. The internal components might be outdated by modern standards, but with all those ports and even upgrade capabilities, this thing is far more consumer friendly than anything available today and it was designed to last.
I have a TC1000, which is actually Compaq branded and from 2002, but it's basically the same device. Unfortunately, an unknown part has died and it now refuses to boot...
Before the whole ARM world. Back when Windows XP was supreme, and there were no better. (Vista does not count as better) I worked with Windows XP tablet PCs, they were wonderful. Chunky, somewhat heavy, but they were basically a Windows PC, (not Android/IOS) and could work just like a PC. You could play games, run software and have real fun on them. Then one day, they vanished. It's been a long time and I'm amazed that someone has kept them alive somehow. The Science Elf, you bring a smile to my face XD
For years I drooled at the notion of having a TC1100, but it was too expensive at the time. A few years later, I got to own a close relative, and descendant of this venerable HP tablet, the Fujitsu Stylistic ST5112. Not only does it have a dual-core Core 2 Duo, and a 12.1" 16:9 screen, it had an option for a transflective LCD (which mine had) like the PDAs of the early 2000s that allowed the screen to be visible in direct sunlight even with the brightness set to minimum. The other feature unique to the Stylistic was that it had a hot swappable battery. It had a small internal battery that could keep the system powered for 10-15 minutes in standby while the main battery was being swapped. Had it not been for the weak Intel integrated graphics, I'd still have kept it.
Its strange. A lot of people including me purchased many tablets over the years but didn't heard of it. And it could have been pretty good alternative of iPad or surface pro.
Although I just bought a motion F 5-T, I still miss my TC 1100, badly!. With the keyboard attached it was perfect for relaxing in a recliner. Why don't other companies figure this out? August 1, 2022
720p is pretty good res for a tablet 15 years ago
We had 720p 15 years ago and the iPhone XR still has it smh.
The OG Microsoft Xbox could output 720p
@@log293 4K also existed since 2003 and yet we still have it. It's not about the resolution, it's about the pixel density.
xLoD *828p
The tablet should be made by HP and Microsoft, of which XP is made exclusively for it. The tablet should be improved.
2003: Microsoft releases Windows XP for a tablet computer, nobody gave a damn.
2010: Apple releases the iPad, everybody loves it.
2012: Microsoft releases the Surface PC, everybody says MS ripped off Apple.
Vanu Infiltrator it was made by hp. Not microsoft
Vanu Infiltrator oh and nobody gave a damn because NOBODY used tablets back then
That is nice artist machine with the pen screen
God damn apple back at it again, this time with Microsoft.
@@rhiannon175 Tablet computers were a thing back in the days of Windows 3.1. They were never very popular, but they were certainly available.
it has more ports than the new macbook pro 2017
andeng567567 lmao
andeng567567 sad but true
no shit, it's always been about reducing ports not adding unfortunately
More obsolete ports
HP didn't have courage.
5:56 "And most importantly right now, since practically nobody has heard about it and is 14 years out of date, it's pretty cheap."
Until a *certain* person made a video about it and skyrocketed their price and dwindled their supply.
*Cough cough* this is the part where a pc market master points to where and how we can get them dirt cheap or quality alternatives
Pun Boi as a totally legitimate marketing mastermind I bestow this rule upon thee:
BARGAIN THE SH*T OUT OF IT
Calvin Jenkins the Lord has spoken-
Yep, once sellers hear about the fact they're cheap they all at once start making the price soo high to the point where they are all no longer cheap and the buyer is forced to pay the hefty price. Now from $15 now it's $115. To even get something close to this, just get a used surface or a cheap Windows x86 tablet that are like $70. Just wait until after I said that. I bet the prices will go as high as $400!
Did their prices really go up after this video was made? With a price like the one shown in this video, it'd be a steal, even if it has the OS version everyone loves to drop support for nowadays.
I just recently discovered your videos, and I have to say this was informative. I actually owned a device similar to the TC 1100, but it couldn't detatch from the bottom part. I think it was a TX1100 or TX1200. It got stolen in 2009.
SLMOE that's just sad...
Could it have been a Fujitsu Lifebook by any chance? Fujitsu made a few Lifebook models that were basically convertible tablet PCs with the functionality of the laptop computer of their time. Mum had one when she worked for the Royal District Nursing Service. It was, basically, a fully feature laptop complete with keyboard, trackpad and even a CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive, but what set it apart was the rotating screen and active stylus. You could rotate the screen and fold it down on the keyboard, and it became a tablet computer, a rather bulky and heavy one. It ran Windows XP Tablet PC edition.
I have a Fujitsu Lifebook T4215. It still works but hard drive is really slow
SLMOE I
lol it got stolen in 2009
interesting, i had a tablet like this back in the day and in my experience the hand writing recognition was god awful. maybe it's just my shitty hand writing though
Keepo Trust me, mine is worse.
Mine is better.
Keepo :)
yes
Even today, the handwriting recognition on Surface tablets isn't that great unless you write in cursive. It's especially bad when your handwriting is in all caps haha
I believe this video drove the price up. Thanks.
I was about to say...
0:14 "But there's the surface!"
0:20 "But the Pro runs Windows 10!"
0:22 "But you can get a stylus!"
0:24 "ohh...."
I dont need it
I dont need it
I dont need it
I NEED IT
welcome to the internet
So true!
Ham Sandwich I NEED U, GIRL
Ikr
When a new CSGO skin case drops
Nvidia Go 420? Gotta be the best name for a graphics card ever.
"Need a boost? Go 420." (made up slogan)
Need to get *high* performance? Go 420!
nVidia even upped their game with the later GT420 too, they got this.
Druaga1 isn't it?His idea about 420 hiding in everyday products are true.
You aren't seeing it yet.
Need to get high fast? Go 420.
yep, had it on my Compaq laptop. the graphics were trippy.
2003- Microsoft releases Windows Touch Tablet with 100% functionality of Windows and hardware almost at par with it's time. And let's not talk about comfortable upgradability. No one bats an eye.
2010- Apple releases iPad. Not even 10% of the standard hardware and with probably the worst possible OS. People lose their minds, want it right now.
2013- Microsoft releases Surface. Matching industry standard of everything and many more additional features. People claim Microsoft copies from Apple, rate it Bullshit. Want it to go off shelves for being a copy and under par performance.
P.S: Even the latest iPad has Hardware Specs faaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr below the Specs of the first Surface. 🙂🙂🙂
moral of the story: consumers are stupid
The Windows XP tablet was absolute shit though. The iPad was successful because it could be mass marketed; the Windows XP tablet could not. The XP tablet was bulky, had crap battery life, used a real OS and not a touch OS, used a stylus, and was expensive as fuck ($2000+!!!). Also, wireless internet wasn't as mainstream as it is now.
The iPad fixed all that. It was thin, had great battery life, used a touch OS, used fingers instead of a stylus, and was reasonably priced ($500 for base model). Also, it had WiFi included but with an option of 3G networks.
Microsoft envisioned the XP Tablet as a PC replacement; Apple envisioned the iPad as something between a smartphone and laptop - a netbook killer. Unfortunately for Microsoft they realized this too late and Windows 8 was a massive failure. By then Android had taken over anyway.
Tarman Yeah! Man you're right!!!
In 2003, the era till when touch based devices were just a fictional thing, people could gauge the fact that it has a Touch Based OS or not, long battery life or not and all!
Now addressing the issues of the Windows tablet you mentioned.
Thickness you say? Damn! This was 20mm thick in 2003 whole the original iPad was 14.5 mm thick. Yes, according to today's standards, the iPad is a lot slimmer, but from 2003's Point of View, for a device that was innovating something, the TC 1100 was not a big difference from the iPad, and you also had the ability to dock it and what not which iPad has thought of just last year!
Battery life, you comparing this to today's standards man? iPads are battery focussed devices if you ask me. Most iPads have a 5000+mAh Battery while they have Sub-Par performance apart from that. So not fair comparing the two though, but still, if it got support like how iPad did, Windows Tab could get miles ahead of anyone.
Apple didn't envision the iPad as a PC Killer because it was crap! Honestly even the latest iPad will struggle to compete with the oldest of Windows or even Mac PCs!
And why can't the TC1100 actually be a PC Killer? If Apple sold this same thing, people would lose their minds. This has a battery life (which no PC has/had), had on par power(Processor, Storage, RAM etc.)
Tarman And according to you, the iPad was a winner amongst the two and not a shit given that iPad came 6 Years later. So if clearly only the good device has to win, why didn't that Windows Tablets of 2013 go past iPads?
Because Apple has BootLickers!
Surface is a clearly better device than any iPad ever. Much sharper displays, improving power and battery life with every new release, much more powerful GPUs, a full-functional touch supported OS that has your back always!
You pretty much explained why Windows XP tablet failed: it wanted to replace the PC, when in fact a tablet SHOULDN'T be a PC killer. A lot of software on the XP Tablet didn't run well because a mouse and keyboard were preferable for many of the apps such as Office, Photoshop, AutoCAD, Cubase, etc. etc.
A Tablet shouldn't be a PC killer because people would just prefer to use the PC. Thats what Apple realized and designed the iPad that way.
The XP Tablet was dead because it was the wrong produt at the wrong time. The iPad was the perfect product at the perfect time.
Hi Science Elf. Love what you're doing here.
I will definitely check out your other videos, you got a suscriber ;)
This shit looks more useful that the iPad Pro
true
GReDDY WupS no it doesn't
dueldu that tablet is old and can't use modern apps. Thus it's far less useful for practically everyone.
what "apps" are you talking about? have you ever used xp?
John 117 *programs
2002 tablet has full desktop os. 2017 tablet has slim down cripple os and people call it innovative.
Teamlor Windows XP Tablet PC edition is excatly same OS as normal Windows XP, it just has touch support, drivers and more built in touch-software. It isnt worse or weaker.
And are iOS and Android tablet OS:es?
Ah yes, because who would want an iPad when you can get a shitty 17 year old 3 inch thick tablet that can barely even run Minecraft
@@re4796 jeez why you so rude? not everyone is tech savvy. and win xp tablet edition is the same thing but with touch support
Use a internet inside premium processor to install Windows 10 on it
Linus: "Can it run Crysis 4?"
Lol
*Tries to run gta 5*
*Opens it*
*device explodes*
It might be able to run san andreas or gta 3, they are both amazing games
Actually no i watched the whole video o_o i dont think it can run them
@Inquisitor Shadowlord *Note 7
Warning: Do not disassemble this device.
now we have handicapped ipads everywhere where you cant do a thing
Noiwex so true, I'd rather crack that limited os out and install Xp on it..
some guys managed to get linux in an ipad 1xD
Noiwex bro. I jailbroke mine and got free in app purchases and a wifi killer
yes who wants fucking ipads with a huge appstore full of touch screen optimized applications. better use slow af xp on a 3inch thick tablet with no battery life and an annoying pen.
Lucas C. Wrong, if you were able to completely remove iOs, install windows and the touch-drivers, you would have a really powerful handheld device. There'd be no need for an appstore, you could get freeware
Damn. Great video, i get exetreme nostalgia when i see that XP desktop. So informative too, Subbed :D
>early 2000s games
>shows Plants vs. Zombies, 2009
Great video! That "Windows XP nostalgia" is almost pushing me to get one of these, but many of the listings I see on eBay seem to not have the OS installed. Did you find a restore ISO or something similar anywhere?
Mine had the OS installed, though the hard drive was about to fail so I cloned it over to a new SSD. I'm sure you can find a Windows XP ISO online. (Tablet Edition might be harder to find considering it was only released to OEMs, but I'll bet it's out there) The tablets all have a product key sticker under the battery, so you should be able to activate your copy of Windows on it when it installs.
Media Center Edition ISOs, also only for OEMs sadly, but easier to find, install Tablet PC Edition given a valid Tablet PC product key.
use bittorent sites to download msdn iso of windows xp
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bruh i still use windows xp on my old pc and yeah i kinda wanna get one of those too
but upgrade it and install win 7 or something
is the pen pressure sensitive? if it's functionally a Wacom tablet, I may get one as it's MUCH cheaper than the comparable Wacom tablets of today.
To my knowledge the pen does appear to be pressure sensitive. Not many programs seem to make use of it, but the program at 4:26 will actually change the pen texture as you press harder against the screen.
ah, so it is pressure sensitive in a way! now i just gotta find out if it will run my main art program (probably, it was designed originally for XP) a comparable Wacom tablet would be the Cintic )Probably spelled that wrong) which is just a monitor not a tablet... and is also over 1000$......
Just going to say that there are Wacom tablets under 1000$ so unless you really want to downgrade your art I would recommend against using the tablet in the video
If you really are that short on money, get this I guess, but I'd get a wacom intuos draw in a small size for around 70-80 dollars. Works just as good as any other tablet. I'd see that as MUCH better than this, despite the pen sensitivity. I really doubt something like this was made for art alone, so this is something I'd consider. You can still make some great art if you use this tablet, but it's definitely not making things easier for you.
Yee
I was still using one of these for running hardware synth editors until 2016 when the hard drive died. Once I get around to replacing that I'll be using it again.
Great machine for running Sunvox, too.
Man, I miss my TC1100. My whole team used them for a couple of years starting in 2004. We also got awesome leather folios that were designed for them so we were the coolest kids in town when we pulled them out in meetings. It was also our introduction to OneNote which was super sweet with the pen.
This would be great for our school. They waste all their money on IPads... which people then just vandalize.
Teachers? Make it happen.
@@Netwiller They aren't rich... well at least not anymore, since they bought a bunch of IPads for no good reason
I agree. My primary school had about 11 iPad airs (one for every class) and nearly all of them were cracked, dented or had a fault. Honestly, I never knew why they bought them.
very cool review man. Neat tablets that I didnt know existed back then.
music during the disassembly is actually requiem dies irae.
First video I've seen of yours omg I'm in love I subbed
Looks like a really great tablet for the time! Especially considering there weren't many windows tabs out at the time.
But, can it run Doom?
yes on 20 fps
That's nice
I'm pretty sure GZDoom is still compatible with windows XP.
Barse Crayon Doom can run on a Commodore 64... sort of.
It has a Pentium 1GHz CPU, it can run it perfectly fine.
Actual though, this tablet would've been baller if you were a flash animator back in the 2000s.
I had one of these back in the day and it was brilliant. Used to pull it out at meetings and take my notes with the pen on the 'paper' app. Being able to detach the keyboard made it really light for carrying around. One of the problems with it was that the display was subject to strain where it was attached to the computer. This made the solder joints break and the display would eventually fail. :-( Pity, but it is probably the most favourite machine I've owned.
Great video, really enjoyed it! That tablet still looks good to me. It was positively space aged when it first appeared. All the work Microsoft engineers put into that. It really should not have been possible at that time but they pulled it off. A real milestone but it was so expensive and really just too early considering the size of all the parts. I remember hearing that Bill Gates would never be without his, he carried it everywhere under his arm.
This is typical of Microsoft, not the Windows team. I mean the R&D engineers that live underground and never see the light of day. They just present ideas to Microsoft heads, if the idea is approved, off they go and just make it. Microsoft has the biggest R&D budget of any company on the planet and it rarely lets anything it makes become a real product. I mean one that is supported and iterated on. The tablet was dropped and wasn't picked up again until Apple came out with theirs and made it look like they'd pioneered the whole thing.
I do have a soft spot for Microsoft, or at least parts of it. It's such a huge company. The unsung engineers that are making amazing things like a completely new way to display fonts because they look ugly on fancy new LCD monitors. No one else was doing that. And today we all benefit from that work. Millions spent developing a font rendering engine that made Microsoft exactly $0. Look at Hololens, the original Surface (the big ass table) I could go on but maybe that's a topic for a video, not an overly long youtube comment.
We had one of those in my school when I was younger. You paid a massive premium for it being so small and it was still incredibly weak as a computer. The input device was retarded and most of the time you'd run it connected to a keyboard like a laptop anyway. I honestly can't think of a single use for that tablet which wouldn't suit a laptop or one of the tablets of the day running PalmOS or Windows 2000 better. Perhaps as a portable DVD player with very, very mild computer capability but for something which I remember as priced in the thousands it seems a very slim market when portable DVD players could be had under a hundred pounds/dollars and a very good one at 200.
Nothing about this device was all to exceptional except for its price point. Whilst yes it was configured to pop out the on-screen keyboard when it would be needed everything used was already built into normal Windows XP devices of the day and left turned off. Without any installations or external software you could have handwriting recognition, voice recognition, and the on-screen keyboard set up the exact way this computer had. I personally found the handwriting recognition sucked and it almost never managed to pick up a word of mine, the device wasn't powerful enough to manage voice recognition properly, and the on screen tap keyboard was the only input it could manage.
Let us also remember that tablets were already commonplace, though only really in a business usage and never as a home system. From an exec using Palm to review spreadsheets data and general organisation to the delivery drivers and warehouse workers using a tablet with the same form factor and a cell phone connectivity to help automate organisation of a warehouse or second to second updates on a delivery. They were usually priced very low with weak processor capability which wouldn't handle the internet or movies (hence not being popular as a home device) and usually ran either custom software or the previous windows. They would be similar to a current low end tablet today with custom tablet software (android rather than windows 8).
Nothing about this device was revolutionary beyond the idea "lets make something already produced at 10 times the cost and a similar performance leap". I found it a disgusting waste of money for my school, especially since nobody even saw it after the first 2-3 days post-purchase. I can't think of any use for it and that is very much reflected in the fact that it didn't take off in any sector of the market. Drawing, perhaps. I daresay that the premium for drawing seems a little excessive considering there was already the possibility of wacom tablets and touch screens. Had there been similar internet to today it might have the same function as current tablets with 10 times the price tag but that wasn't the world those days.
Also, I had never seen an e-book in those days and pdf files are still easy to annotate using acrobat anyway so you really don't save time in handwriting over typing except that copy/paste and the like won't function with a handwritten note. For $15 sure send it to Africa to aid with education but that only really works now the internet has expanded and because its price is so low. For western education you would do far, far better with a modern tablet able to deal with the more recent office versions and which can manage HTML5 without issue, even if it does cost +2x the price.
Holly f*ck learn how to use internet no one will read that
We had many Acer tablets running the Windows XP Tablet Edition where I work. They worked excellent.
Edit: Maybe not "excellent", but very good, and it got the job done to mark up documents pretty damn well for the time.
Awesome video! Never knew this existed. Might try it out one of these days when I have extra cash. Would be cool to see how far I can upgrade it. Does it have mini-PCIE or was that not around yet?
So it's like the surface computers, but older?
I really had a hard time leaving XP. I loved that platform.
I love how when you said PC in the first part of this video and showed a picture of a Mac
This is such an amazing device. One of my favorite pieces of hardware, ever!
ayy great vid man :)
A tablet with two usb ports and ethernet... hahahahahahha good times
_Also this is a full PC (BIOS Accessible). So you can put _*_Android-x86_*_ and boot from the hard drive._
I've watched 2 videos and have already subscribed love your videos man. I love older electronics and computers so it's good to see a channel talking about and showing them.
Windows XP sp3 is the best OS ever
ping is not related to operating system, its related to your wifi/ethernet card, your internet connection, and even the server you are trying to connect to. in fact, you would get the same ping on an ubuntu system, i bet.
@@GY-bd9bo what does that have to do with the comment
@@grumpycomputers7488 I don't remember. It must have been a deleted comment. Or maybe, I responded to the wrong email like a damn goof
I have a XP tablet with a vista compatible sticker. I got it from a medical institute
I think it's actually too weak for Vista, only the less demanding versions can run on it (Starter, Home Basic).
@@mariannmariann2052 and especially with windows vista, vista is absolute hell
Vista compatible means it can barely run vista basic, which looks terrible
Windows Explorer // Exploring Windows Can it run Aero?
2:39
WOAH! Microsoft has been on fire for years now!
Nice to see a lot of the pen functionality evolving to be a central part of the experience on Windows 10 devices now, except this time they are really catching on.
lol my gf has one of these, I installed plant vs zombies for her as its was her favorite game at the time. I tried minecraft and the thing almost shat itself.
"Because 2003". Lol Apple still sells Thunderbolt to VGA adapters
haha true they still sell VGA adapters from 2001 yet they removed the headphone jack XD
Great video. I have been looking for something like this for a while. Hopefully I get the one I bid on.
I owned 2 of these back in the day. Used it as an e-reader and document editor before either concept were being as mass marketed as they are now. One of the greatest investments I ever made in tech way back then. To be honest, I still prefer the bulky feel of tablets and still would rather have middle of the road performance with a great display, mass storage options and excessive battery life. Not a fan of this slimmed down design being touted as the greatest when really all they do is carry over the heat problems into the next generation of computing rather than maintaining an identical form factor and upgrading the cooling system. I also had a Sony UX280 for a bit. Another device worth checking out for sure. If you want to go further back then look into (ultra)widescreen computers literally designed for the internet and email when it all became mainstream. It's interesting because we are actually going back to these older designs now but nobody is really aware of it due to the premium these devices carried early on. A lot of great innovative history in computer technology if you only look.
see if u can install win10 on it
>with a good operating system
>shows windows 10
Windows 10 is alright, it's Windows 8 that sucks.
I agree, Linux or Windows 7 Ult.
FluorescentGreen5
Nothing is aleight with Windows 10. The jew of telemetry is built-in and cannot be disabled. You are the slave of Microsoft just like Apple or Google users.
Silver Spoon Then what are you doing on TH-cam, if you're so concerned about telemetry?
That aside, I'm happy with Windows 10. Most of the time. It does still have flaws, but go back to Windows 7, an operating system from the same year the original Core i5's were introduced? Meh. It just feels outdated.
Windows 8.1 isn't bad either though, imo.
I use an independent and anonymous Google account with strict security and scripts policies.
also, my computer runs exclusively on my own distribution of TempleOS, surpassing by far every proprietary operating system created by the Israelite.
Proof that old technology can be useful for something. Even older than this, I have a Toshiba Satillate made back in 1998 that run Windows 98 second edition and has office 97 which everything on that pc still works fine. Its specs are an Intel Pentium processor at 266 mhz, 96 mbs of ram, and a 4 GB hard drive.
I had a Thinkpad X41 convertible tablet, labeled as both IBM and Lenovo, with extended battery it was heavy, clunky, had a dim screen about 5 hours of battery, and maxed out 2.5 GB of RAM. It could do basic gaming like Doom and Halo 1 and GTA III. Excellent keyboard, full array of ports, ethernet, phone jack, PCMCIA, docking station support. It had a shit proprietary 4200 RPM hard drive that died as soon as I got it, it was replaced under warranty with an SSD, thank you IBM! It ran XP pretty good, I later installed Windows 7 on it, that ran okay once you fiddle with drivers to get buttons to work, better handwriting recognition than XP. No graphics driver but could still play TH-cam videos, at least the last time I used it, which was at least five years ago.
*WINDOWS XP STARTUP NOISE*
*Vietnam war flashbacks of getting woken up at three in the morning as a kid*
0:20 - 0:22
Haven't anyone teached you not to lie???????????????
What do you mean? Windows 8 and 10 are amazing. So much better than any windows operating system before it.
I'm a simple gal. I see XP, I subscribe. Well-paced :)
I actually really like the design of this tablet, I've always liked devices with a slide-out keyboard.
Can you update it to the latest software version? Windows 7 or better?
Marlo Mamocod my brothers laptop used to run windows Xp but now runs windows 7 fine, but since it's basically an all in one you can't upgrade it to windows 8+ well
you mean win 7 or newer, didn't you, there is no 'better' windows than 7 :P
yes you can run windows 7 on it, I do, runs well for an old tablet but don't expect anything better then what is said in the video
@@phoenixsmith6026 u can run windows 8
Neat...
There are hundreds of XP tablets, but this is a special one. I remember that we used to have XP desktops in primary school. I'm in year 7 now. (Yes, I'm 11 years old)
You should totally check out the Panasonic Toughbook line. I have a 2005 Toughbook CF-18 Mk 4 and it's 'okay'. 1.6GHz integrated graphics 1GB DDR2 120GB IDE 1024x768 2xPCMCIA 2xUSB Modem/Ethernet, Digitizer, optional GPS, optional 3G, waterproof, etc.
I installed Xubuntu and Chromium on it and it makes a *solid* school PC.
*Edit*
Forgot to mention, turns from laptop to tablet similar to that one. Do not turn the screen the wrong way.
nah, i actually found a really good toughbook (not sure of its age); but this thing is WAY better then most $300 laptops www.ebay.com/itm/172669168363?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true
Good old bliss on windows 10 XD
can it run doom?
Which version? Because I'm not even sure if Doom 2016 is avalible on PC...
Fiona Gallag oh no i'm only referring to doom 1. and maybe doom 2 as well
most comments like this one are referring to the original doom (doom 1)
most of them are jokes but really doom can run on as little as a calculator
Dat Engie Oooooh, got it! Thanks for explaining.
i Can Also Run Old DOS Games
Surface: Cameras
tablet: Nope.
person:shall i go on?
they are pretty durable too, the plus side of the one i used to own was used as a bludgeoning device during a mugging incident, ... it doubled as a shield from the knife as well, worked fine for a few more years then it got retired.
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6:03 Physicus2 very nice game, it is one of my favorite games :) it must run very well on this tablet pc
This thing had some good ideas that I wish modern tablets had. The way brining the pen near the screen moves the mouse resolves most of the compatibility problems mobile devices have in web browsers
My god I need one of these 90's point and click adventure games.
I miss Windows XP. It's 1 of my favorite versions of Windows, next to Windows 10, Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows 95.
I once saw a smaller device with XP Tablet edition on it.
How amazing it'd be if HP makes an updated version of this tablet with super-sleek design and latest hardware & software..
Sadly HP went for the traditional swivel screen design on its successors. Truth is, it's one of the last true Compaq designs. (The tc1000, its predecessor, is designed by Compaq before HP's buyout)
Nevertheless bits of its design have passed to its successors, particularly the EliteBook 2700 series. Apparently HP did look into their past when they designed the 2710p.
awesome job on the editing your videos look so good
"Portal requires much more VRAM than the Go 420 offers." I had a Pentium 4 laptop with a 32 MB 440 Go GPU when it came out. I installed it ignoring the warnings, set everything as low as it would go, and was able to play at like 2 FPS. Not really playable but it was the only machine I had at the time and I really wanted to play it. Amazingly it was able to run the game start to finish without any real glitches apart from terrible, terrible framerate making some turret and fling sequences difficult.
A lot of people do not realize that most of the "revolutionary" stuff released is just refined existing stuff
*COUGH COUGH* apple *COUGH COUGH*
I think one of my teachers actually used one of these back in high school! I've always wanted one--I enjoy drawing every once in a while, and being able to cleanly scan doodles from paper isn't something I care enough to learn. This would probably be the perfect solution for that!
In the 90's Microsoft was working on their own OS for tablets called WinPad but I don't think it got anywhere after alpha stages.
I remember seeing those back when they came out and I thought they were amazing, but I think their cost was in the $1100 range, which was way too rich for my blood back then. Tablet PCs back then never really sold in huge numbers, mainly being relegated to niche applications like the medical field and warehouse data entry and product scanning. Putting pen input on a desktop OS doesn't produce something that's really all that elegant, which is a main reason they didn't sell well; that HP probably did better because of its dockable keyboard. That situation actually repeats itself with Windows 10; Windows 8 was great for touchscreens once you got used to how it worked but Windows 10 takes a step backwards and is hard to use with a touchscreen without a stylus. My Lenovo tablet has a beautiful Full HD touchscreen and came with Windows 8 but got 'upgraded' to 10 and now I'm glad it came with a keyboard and touchpad (that attaches to it magnetically and connects via Bluetooth) because the touchscreen is pretty much unusable now.
Holy crap Gamemaker and Crazy Machines on a tablet! I wish you could make a video about the experience using them and I would also like to see what kind of experiments you have on there and if you've made any Gamemaker games
Well-produced and informative! Thanks for taking the time to actually tear it down and share the tech porn shots with us! 😀
Use it to control your WinAmp .MP3 library. Or hook up a pair of 2 TB external HDDs to it and leave the thing plugged into an AC outlet. Many LCD TVs have a VGA/RGB port and a separate PC audio in port. A handy and cheap to rig up wired movie remote control. Of sorts :)
I wish they made an updated version or model of it. It looks so cool
I still have my old Compaq TC1000 (Compaq model just before they rebranded the line over to HP)
I ALSO have my TX2500... the TC1000 definitely had some unique charm to it with its ridiculously rigid feeling build!
Believe it or not, in 2017 they're still making monitors with VGA port! It's still a common thing!
I remember a Nokia mobile phone running Windows on it, my brother have it once. Can't recall which version of Windows though but the default screen looks like Windows XP.
Honestly, this sounds perfect. A fully modular tablet with a stylus, you can just upgrade it and put newer systems on it if you need internet, especially put some modern power-saving CPU on it. The weight is the cost I am willing to take. Even if the GPU can't be swapped, I guess you can just have integrated graphics on a new CPU and just not use the dedicated old GPU. Can't find it cheap as you did tho, guess the video was too successful hahah.
Fallout 2 and Fallout Tactics are playable on the TC1100 with the pen. Unfortunately Fallout 1 does not work with the digitizer for some reason. I never was able to figure out why, still playable nonetheless.
this hardware is more than fine for 2003
I didn't know something like this existed already in 2003. The internal components might be outdated by modern standards, but with all those ports and even upgrade capabilities, this thing is far more consumer friendly than anything available today and it was designed to last.
MAN I REALLY WANT ONE OF THESE!
I have a TC1000, which is actually Compaq branded and from 2002, but it's basically the same device. Unfortunately, an unknown part has died and it now refuses to boot...
Before the whole ARM world. Back when Windows XP was supreme, and there were no better. (Vista does not count as better)
I worked with Windows XP tablet PCs, they were wonderful. Chunky, somewhat heavy, but they were basically a Windows PC, (not Android/IOS) and could work just like a PC. You could play games, run software and have real fun on them.
Then one day, they vanished. It's been a long time and I'm amazed that someone has kept them alive somehow.
The Science Elf, you bring a smile to my face XD
For years I drooled at the notion of having a TC1100, but it was too expensive at the time. A few years later, I got to own a close relative, and descendant of this venerable HP tablet, the Fujitsu Stylistic ST5112. Not only does it have a dual-core Core 2 Duo, and a 12.1" 16:9 screen, it had an option for a transflective LCD (which mine had) like the PDAs of the early 2000s that allowed the screen to be visible in direct sunlight even with the brightness set to minimum. The other feature unique to the Stylistic was that it had a hot swappable battery. It had a small internal battery that could keep the system powered for 10-15 minutes in standby while the main battery was being swapped. Had it not been for the weak Intel integrated graphics, I'd still have kept it.
Its strange. A lot of people including me purchased many tablets over the years but didn't heard of it. And it could have been pretty good alternative of iPad or surface pro.
Ah... the legendary tc1100, I have one too so gonna chime in. (And please pardon my English >_
Although I just bought a motion F 5-T, I still miss my TC 1100, badly!. With the keyboard attached it was perfect for relaxing in a recliner. Why don't other companies figure this out?
August 1, 2022
holy smokes, this was waaay ahead of its time