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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- Before the iPad and modern day tablets, these bulky Windows tablets were the go to! We're gonna check out a HP Compaq TC1100 tablet from 2004 and see how well it holds up today
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That Windows Journal app was so ahead of its time!
Glad microsoft still kept it
its actually amazing how many programs that existed that did what they were supposed to do and got canned
One Note has a similar input mode that can be used on modern 2-in-1s. The input can be set to "pen only" so it will ignore any touch input whilst the pen is close to the screen, making handwriting so much easier
@@eveypea Also, Microsoft still offers Windows Journal for download on their website, and on top of that they also revived it as a modern UWP app for Windows 11
I use it to this day for sketching drawings :D... there's just something about it that I like better than any modern option.
the funny thing is, everyone owns a copy of photoshop cs2, it is the one that they had to legally give put for free due to a lawsuit from them shutting down the licence authentication servers for cs2
Where can I download it?
21:52 - Frick you dude, i had a heart attack
i was unplugging my laptop right when that happened 😭 scared the crap out of me
clicked on the timestamp and got scared anyways
lolz
I actually jumped
Same 😭😭
Most Linux distros still support the pen! I had a similar tablet PC to this, albeit a year older and with a 1.7GHz processor and 2GB RAM. That could actually load a TH-cam video at 480p, surprisingly. For pressure sensitivity on XP, Artrage is a good option. On Linux, I used MyPaint and Krita.
How did you have that blue text search thing like in tiktok lol
I'm using fireAlpaca 1.5 on a T40p laptop for pressure sensitivity on windows XP
Perfect performance despite it being a DirectX 8.0 machine
3:30 This is actually a PCMCIA slot (PC Card). Expresscard is either thinner than PCMCIA cards (34mm) or the same thickness (54 mm) with a cutout at the back. PCMCIA was the first and primary version for PC cards through the 90's, up until around 2007, when Expresscard became more common.
I had a Dell Latitude XT when I was in highschool! This game me such flashbacks
I remember when people asked if it was an iPad, I’d indignantly reply that it was an actual computer
now that it's amazing, wish Microsoft journal still existed
You can actually still download it from Microsoft! I can send a link to you if you want (and if it is allowed in the comment section lol)
this is way cooler and way more interesting then anything released in the last 12 years
20 years ago I wanted this tablet so much, for drawing. iPad really bring my dream to me in this regard
I own two of these tablets, A 1 GHz and a 1.2 GHz model and the docking station for it. They are really neat devices and are especially useful for running software that doesn't work correctly on anything higher than Windows XP while using little room.
My 1.2 GHz unit I upgraded to its max of 2 GBs of memory, There is an internal SODIMM slot which has 256 mbs of ram installed but it requires taking the tablet apart. Additionally I used an M.2 SATA to IDE adapter which makes it quite snappy. Genuinely they are neat tablets for me to toy around with.
Also, id recommend if you do open up the tablet, its a bit of a pain in the rear but you should probably redo the thermal paste for the CPU and chipset. There is official HP documentation on full disassembly and service of this tablet floating about which I have a copy of.
I just want to let you know, that it was a pleasure to watch you review this tablet.
This exact year, while finishing my studies, I found this exact tablet completely disassembled and partialy broken...
That is to say it didn't stop me from making a Frankenstein out of it.
I fixed it and made it work and while I did not have a pen to use it, weirdly enough, a friend lend me a pen from a samsung s9 fe tablet and it did work, so it is compatible with modern wacom pens.
Sadly, I had to leave the tablet on the class I found it on...
Again just a pleasure to relive this experience, It was such a great device, thank you for uploading this
Yep prbably because its pressure sensirive lime MOST Touchscreens at the time although ive heard ppl put wacom nibs on the s9 fe pen
wait I kinda want one of these now… there’s so many cute little things on this tablet that I love, and frankly I enjoy how chunky it is
I never heard someone pronounce Wacom as "way-com" instead of "wah-com" haha
Pretty interesting to see XP in higher DPI, it's definitely unusual and looks weird at some places
I'd be interested in knowing the specs of this device, if there's a way to upgrade its internals to max out its specs and installing a Linux distro with LXDE, I believe it could be usable in 2024!
Aside from that, great video as always :]
I always say way-com, is that wrong? 😅
@@juniorwmg I think it's the same debate as "JIF" vs "GIF", so to be honest there's no wrong way to pronounce it I suppose ;]
@@MysteriousFoxy87 That's a terrible example. GIF is the correct answer, always and forever. >:[
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I always thought it was wack-com
That stylus was a rollercoaster ride - I initially thought it was a tiny little trackball, then laughed out loud when it popped out and I thought it was a wack-ass joystick, then went "aww that's boring" when you showed it was just a stylus
Heck yeah that construction and ports and the physical buttons. Perfection. And removable battery. So nice.
I just found out that Toughpads exist. And they seem to be pretty much this. With the bulk being from padding instead of just being chonky. But pretty much the same. And hecking expensive even used.
A quirk I remember when I watched the vid:
Whenever you set a PNG as Wallpaper in XP the redrawing of the desktop gets extremely slow, the fix is to convert the wallpaper to bmp and set that
Really cool video.
I've really been enjoying your content since the Lumia vid.
I used a Surface Pro 4 for a time and loved to scribble my notes on it, but I didn't anticipate how the writing recognition would be so good already in 2004.
Keep up the good work!
By the way, tablet PCs like these can actually supports up to 2GB of RAM, it just requires further disassembly to get to the other DDR2 slot!
The connector in the back was for a desktop dock that also included a bay for a Floppy, optical disk drive or extra hard drive. Docking the computer without the keyboard attached looks like its impossible the dock sticks fully through that little cutout in the keyboard. Kind of crazy. It was the HP DC911A PC Docking Station for TC1000/TC1100
Fun fact: You can use a modern Samsung S-pen on this device, or use the HP Pen on a modern Samsung Tablet.
My aunt has a Samsung S tablet, and i own a different HP laptop/tablet thing with the exact same pen, i gotta try this now!
It's honestly kinda amazing how in such a short time we went from that, to surface pro's (which I tend to like for travelling), but then not quite so much has had to change since then
The hole in the keyboard is for the docking station port. You can dock the tablet into the docking station with the keyboard attached, folded on the back. I have the tablet and the dock for it, and it's quite a pretty looking thing.
Well, [the video from the closed tab playing,] that's the result from the messy modern browsers architecture of being split into multiple processes: from the UI perspective the tab was closed, but it wasn't.
This is the era of tech I love
This is ready for connectivity, unlike the port starved notes and pads of modern times.
10:42 frok, fril, dodo 😂
Fun fact: New Samsung Android tablets come with an S-Pen which is all done with Wacom technology. So a modern Samsung tablet is very similar to how this operates, minus the thick pen. Been using my Samsung tablet as my drawing tablet now.
The TC1100 pen and Samsung S-Pens are compatible. Same with other tablet PCs that use Wacom Penabled technology. I have a vid on my channel where I try it out with a TC1100 and Tab S8.
A boss in my old company wanted these badly so we got 2 units, with keyboard and everything, it was nice to use except when you couple a mid 2000 laptop hdd with Symantec endpoint protection and altiris agent you basically cripple the unit. Other stuff was that one of the device got fried, not a problem with a carepack onsite but the tech had to do 3 exits because he could not resolve the problem, last time he changed even the case and that got the unit fixed.
why does he always pronounce Frokfrdk like "F*ck da Duck"
I say frock fa dock
Odd, I always hear frog fr doc
HA I say his name like that all time
Frok-F-Duck
Lmao
I got one of these refurbished from staples around 10 years ago. Not sure how they were still selling these probably got them from 3rd party liquidation/e-waste stations. But when I saw it I knew it was a nice piece of retro tech and I grabbed one. It has 1.2 or 1.4ghz pentium M CPU. It uses ddr1 ram btw.
I love watching frokfrdk while using my s8😍
This could be some 12 year olds dream device in the time
glad im not the only one that calls them "laptop tablet things"
I really like how old computers had these ports and connectors,
I had always been curious about different peripherals we could plug into them...
But unfortunately the tech these days, they hardly give you two ports 😞
Microsoft tablet PC was amazing. You could run full Photoshop and have a portable drawing tablet back in the early 2000s. It was clunky, but it worked. You have no idea how revolutionary this was and it took *years* before Apple even launched iPad in 2010. Windows tablet PCs and their manufacturing partners came out as early as 2000 or 2001 with tablet PC features being integrated natively into Windows XP. It's hard not to be a fanboy about this when many art people at the time thought you needed a Mac to do professional design work when Microsoft had tablet PC
21:52 A daily occurrence in my hometown
He's back!
I saw this same tablet when i was a kid back in its prime,someone was using it on the beach and i was like wtf is that thing. I personally think those Windows tablets/2in1 laptops are more powerful and more useful than iPads or Android tablets. They don't have good battery life but they are not as limited in terms of OS and apps compared to ios and android
They sure are better than iPads, but the experience is what made iPads and Android tablets popular. Also, with new X Elite I hope the battery life can at least rival iPads. Android is better when it comes to freedom, but more software is optimized for iPads due to popularity, so that’s a bit depressing. But yeah, if Windows 8 UI succeeded, without the standard desktop mode like in W7, but a more touch optimized version, it would’ve also solved the whole Windows on touch screens suck problem
Pretty badass for something 20 years old
i have one on Windows Vista upgraded to Intel Core 2 Duo and 2 GB of RAM. it previously run Windows Me with its default configuration of hardware
This computer would be highly compatible with "Windows XP Pen Edition," a specialized version of "Win XP", designed for compact tablet computers. This edition demonstrated enhanced capabilities in managing battery life and background processes, while also incorporating a range of tools optimized for touch and pen usage.
However, based on the video demonstration provided by "Frokfrdk," it appears that the device in question may not be running the Pen Edition. This is primarily due to the observed challenges faced by the user in manipulating windows programs and targeting smaller objects within the graphical user interface (GUI). The Pen Edition typically features a more user-friendly GUI specifically tailored for devices with touch and pen capabilities, akin to the tablet mode available in Windows 10 and 11.
0:06 wow, iOS 18 ✨️
Check out the Electric Sheep screensaver. It's similar to those visualizations but cooler. Shame nobody uses screensavers anymore.
I use the 3d pipes screen saver on my desktop
Still rocking on the HP TouchSmart tm2!
FYI those have a second RAM stick burried inside of it, its not soldered
also try using invidious and/or mypal, supermium only runs well on Core 2 and better, especially on Windows XP.
WACOM Degetizer is what the Note 3 and Note 2 use for S Pen functionality
Tab S9 as well :)
The hp touch screens on their pocket pcs were pretty good. Best resistive touch screens ever, no wonder this one was great too because it's from that same era, except bigger. The software for taking notes was also pretty good. Too bad that cpu is so weak even for the time.
Windows Journal very much reminds me of today's Goodnotes.
the circles are so 𝓯𝓮𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂
I always wanted a Windows Tablet PC from Windows XP/Vista era. Was about to buy a HP TC1100 from eBay but most was sold out or didn't ship to my country.
Edit: and one whose battery still hold a charge is rare and one that i bought was a TX1100 which got lost in shipping
In today's episode of Drawing with frokfrfk, we draw a crt boi sailing the 7 seas!!11
Have a look at the Compaq Concerto, basically a 486 Surface running Windows 3.1 or '95 complete with kickstand, touch screen and detachable keyboard.
36:00 that's a pretty common youtube bug. even on a modern super computer. how have you not experienced that before
That windows media play effects are still in windows today
damn 20 years old
watching this as hlrad eats my entire cpu for hours.
The Celeron might be slow, but it could be worse, its predecessor (the Compaq TC1000) had a Transmeta Crusoe.
@@bigdude101ohyeah good lord not a Crusoe
Also, if you want trippy 2000s visualisations on a modern computer, MilkDrop 3 and projectM are both modern versions of the old MilkDrop visualiser from Winamp.
The Laptop Mode Looked Like a Macintosh Portable
this with OG Paint Tool SAI would be a DREAAAAAM for me holy shit
cant wait for the frokfdlc
Great video
Wow another surface user have a RT and a pro 3
thats PCMCIA not Express Card; Express Card is PCIe, whilst PCMCIA is both ISA and PCI [well the later Type II and Type III ports from like 98 onwards, they were originally just an ISA expansion bus, often just referred to as PC-Card]
For context Wacom uses a technology where electricity isn't required in the Pen, the pen only needs to have a magnetic coil and when it makes contact or comes near the screen the electro magnetic field of the tablet screen makes the pen realise what is happening and that results in the Stroke btw the screen has a layer of electro magnets that react to this, in case of Apple since they were angry that Wacom wouldn't submit to their monopoly business and make the pens work with their tablets so they made the apple pencil which was a very weak pen compared to Wacom's ones mainly cuz it needed charge and thus would one day suddenly stop working and there is no way to fix an apple pencil cuz it was built to be not repairable, the apple pencil despite how good it feels specially to people who have only used them won't ever understand how much they are missing out in windows land and Android land cuz Samsung got that Wacom Collab and all S Pens are basically Wacom based pens which are extremely god tier and most importantly they are free
Maybe even though you close the previous video website tab, but the video audio has delayed and so maybe it is playing the remaining audio with repeats during the cosing of the tabs.
The wireless bsod seems like a driver issue. I have no problem using wireless on my Windows XP Laptop. You should try updating the wireless drivers.
13:13 the ipad pro does come in matte or normal but jerryrigeverything (zach) tested it and it got a 2 or a 3 on the hardness test
Awesome video!👍😊
Okay... now Linux it!
great vid! haha
The interesting part? That stylus might still work on 2024 Samsung tablet and phones, 20 years later Wacom emr stylus input still compatible. Also a new Wacom pen should work too.
I'd really like one of those HPs as it would be ideal for use as a decent drawing device amongst other things. It would certainly get some interest at the Pub, too. I'd max out the RAM (will it take a 1GB module?) - might be good for a fairly lightweight Linux installation.
Second best: just get a Wacom tablet I guess. 🤷♂
Legend Windows XP
MOM, can we get a Microsoft surface?
No, we have a Microsoft surface at home.
The Microsoft surface at home:
The ultra budget DankPods
damn I really want one now.
also xp can run cs5, though I don't know if that tablet would handle it well.
Hey it's the tablet that science elf has
I'd take that over an ipad!
I have a Sony vaio UX280p with windows XP and it did not have have that much trouble running TH-cam on Firefox but that did have 1GB of ram.
Hey. So. The Mediaplayer visualizations. They are still there. Still in windows 10. Not sure if any of them are new but i think all of the old ones are still there.
33:19 "Playing with my Thing"
next time you do one of these you should try algodoo, really cool physics stuff and it works well with tablets
omg haha, I have one of those! sadly the little port cover snapped in the middle section on mine :(
it does have a 1.1GHz Pentium though!
Install windows 8 on it it runs surprisingly well with win8
I was amazed by this thing so I checked what was the port behind and Wow it's a dock station soooo cool "Compaq Tablet PC Docking Station for TC1000 TC1100 - VGC (DC911A#ABA)"
40:09 you can still have that in win 11 and win 10 on media player legacy
39:00 you should have tried switching the resolution to 140p and then play the video
I recently went back to CS6 because CC was so damn sluggish. The experience is identical for everything I do in PS just more smooth.
Photoshop has changed so very little since I started with CS3.
44 minutes, wow.
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay hes back
I remember the early days of TH-cam with flash player, it made a 3.0GHz Pentium 4 sweat. I don't think this had a chance at watching TH-cam when it was new.
Old youtube worked fine on my 600mhz PIII, P4's sucked
Omg i want this but with windows 10
I know you probably mean a modern version of this tablet with Windows 10, but i did try and run Windows 10 on my TC1100 and it didnt work, lack of instruction sets, 8.1 works though, but slowly.
@@Emil215p .
I'm practically in love with this tablet, too bad the OS is outdated so I can't connect it to the Internet without risk. I would honestly love if I can find something pretty similar to this without it being old as hell and not lock down system like apple. Basically have freedom over my own stuff though I could just upgrade this tablet, I just don't know if it'll remove any important features if I do, same with changing os
HES BACKKKK
18:34 and now they don't even let you own the work you make lol
i used to own one of these
Ma, can we buy procreate?
No, we have procreate at home.
Procreate at home: 15:53
1:26 🤯🤯🤯
Cookie tin pc part 3 when?
this ones a banger. i dont like microsoft that much there OS isent like what it use to be simple smoth and convinte windows sucks theres software up[dates like every time i try to use my pc theres too much blotware its laggy sarch sucks everything is pritty much BING in a nutshell. go back to the old days where it was easier to do stuff. P.S this channel frokfrdk is the best
You can absolutely get a paper-feel tempered glass screen protector.
those grind the crap out of pen nibs tho.
Hi frokfrdk remember me from that one video
I've got exact model but it slows as hell, 2004 and widescreen is a rare combo, let alone tablet xp, so, naturally i've upgraded to ThinkPad X61 tablet with nice 4:3 screen and low power core 2 duo, upgraded it to windows 10 and it become slows as hell.