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What picture mode are these in? The hisense appears to have much better color and depth to me but not sure if its just because of the picture mode you used.
Let’s say the pq eotf gets on track is that one firmware update going to put the tcl ahead or would the Hisense still be the better tv ? Im assuming the brightness will go down to be more accurate but I don’t know if this will increase the native contrast or how that’s possible
The fact that you constantly keep swapping which TV is on the left vs right is MADDENING. Early on I very clearly preferred the picture of the TV on the right - which I thought was the Hisense - but then all of your comparison charts show the TCL on the right. I had to go back and look at the stands from section to section to make sure I knew which TV was which. Just keep the same TV on the same side throughout the comparison!!
Are there any issues thus far? Debating between the TCL or Hisense never owned either brand. Have only had LG OLED's, and the burn in was bad, I'm done with OLED's.
@@JZapata1987 I just bought the Qm851 tonight. I am debating canceling and checking out the U8N because it's $100 cheaper. That said, I think either tv is amazing. What are your thoughts so faR?
Great comparison Abby! Thanks for posting it! I already bought the 75 inch U7N (with less brightness and contrast) and it's fantastic! Still had to lower brightness for my taste for a average bright room. Guess I'm not a nit nut like so many...
I have a the Hisense U8N and an LG OLED B7 with 10,000 hours on it that's perfect, no burn in. The problem is I have a very bright room with lots of floor to ceiling windows and the OLED was constantly getting washed out. It’s just too dark. The Hisense TV is much better than the OLED in this room and my OLED is much better now in my darker game room upstairs. Both these TV's are 65 inches and honestly the only thing I don't like about the Hisense is the viewing angle and Dolby Vision Gaming, which is turned off on my Xbox Series X. Other than that it's a superior TV for watching sports and it's now football season!
I was debating between these two in July. I ended up with the 65" TCL cause it was on sale at Best Buy for $1399. Two weeks later, they had it for $999. Fortunately, I was in the price match window. So I feel like I got that TV for a steal.
I have the 55 inch version of the U8H & for PC gaming the tv has been a nightmare so I went & got the 42 inch C3 & my U8H is collecting dust & I've had a few minor quality issues as well 🤦🏿🤷🏿
@t.k.morris The U8H for console gaming & movie watching it's AMAZING but for PC gaming it's terrible!!! I heard it doesn't do true gaming at 4K 120hz but it actually upscales to that resolution 🤦🏿🤷🏿 My Brother just got a 85 inch U7N & so far he has no complaints & saids it's amazing 👍🏿
6:03 I'm surprised they didn't compare the "real scene" brightness for this video, the TCL QM8 gets twice as bright in small highlights. The TCL QM8 gives the best contrast of any LCD in scenes with small bright points of light, which is especially relevant for gaming.
I'm not sure if it's just my screen or TH-cam, but the U8N color looks richer and better. I doubt that I'd be able to tell if they weren't next to each other.
@@NeoMikeO0ops my tv 📺 Stand has wheels 🛞. I could tilt my tv towards me , most of time I sit at tilt with ISsue it’s not because of color , but Weird Angle 📐 ! If u Ever Have Issue with Tilt angle , u know u most likely won’t SIT at that angle 📐 to watch anyway . 😊 . Like I don’t like sitting at side of Theater 🎭 to watch movie . I rather sit at mid back .
Hisense might just have more color in the out of the box mode. But the QM8 is known to display colors better than the U8N. Especially Blue and Orange where Hisense struggles.
I jut got the 98" TCL QM851G, have had it for around a week, and MAN it's utterly spectacular! I got it on sale at Bet Buy for $3,999, which is a major bargain compared to the competition. Compared to my old 79" LG, it's not in the same Universe, the TCL is so bright, the blacks are SO black, the colors are spectacular. I just think we've reached a point where we are splitting microscopic hairs to even see differences between all the top tier TV's. As many have said, It's hard to go wrong these days. I have it connected up via optical output to a pair of Devialet 108db Phantom I speakers, and the combination is beyond amazing!
Makes you wonder how good they will be in 5 years - Brighter and closer to OLED in control and blacks . OLED won't stand still either brighter. true RGB coming. 4000NIts must be next year for these 2 models . Full BT2020 is still years away, as I think even no $30000 reference monitor can do it. Some wavelengths are very hard to produce
@@nimblegoat SHARP Already did that (Beyond the So Called Refernce MOnitor) Look up SHARP Aquos Quatrum. Qua means--4 in latin. That panel has 🟥🟩🟨🟦 4 yes--4 base light . can produce 99.99% color Human Eyes can see 🟪🟪🟨🟧🟥🟩🟫 🟦truely vibrant color without adding 1 shade of something n messing up d Rest of color pool. Reference Monitor is old school standard does NOT fit Young ppl Appitite. yeah most ppl are shocked that SHAP Leds 2010 alreay had able to do 3Trillion shades of color, the Bravia9 couild only do 1 T. Refernce monitor is just too blue🔹 doesnt fit most ppl’s appitite. I am going to buy the UX> n lets see in 5 years lol. ps talking about Wave Length. eyes are meant to Track down Warm Tones 🟡🟠🔴🟢🟤 More than 🟣🔵 because most animals , tree, flowers skin towns are wam tones. there 2 X color sensors for warmth than Cold. Reference Monitor has its 🔷cast. it self already Hinders capacity to watch tv shows day time (noat as bad at night) . Thats why SONY LG Demos Almost have TREE/ Blue ocean etc . because makes the GREEN/Blue look artificially --Denser color. when most natrual colors in out door sports/ Basketball NBA. all Warm tone (skin, floor , hair etc). i can bet money on it. LG C3 C4 tv demo are like that. Hisense bought SHARP tv 10 years ago. It has the capacity to produce the most elegant Natrual eyes that Suit our EYES needs , NOT to fill the Narrative of some Direct’s internet if that Direct hasn’t retired yet.
@@shanew7361 I still love it. A couple of months in, and it's damn impressive. One thing it does, is show up any substandard source material; Netflix, Amazon Prime, SHO are astounding, but stuff like Peacock can be variable.
I'll have to say that the constant position changing (TCL on left, now TCL on right, now TCL on left again, now TCL back to the right, now TCL back to the left, etc.) of the TV's in this head to head was very frustrating.
My U8N 65 is beautiful. A couple glitches in menu speed occasionally. But the picture is stellar. The peak brightness is crazy and shocking at first. I dialed it back a bit
In all the side by side shots of the two TVs the detail and color depth is better on the Hisense U8N. Do these side by side images truly reflect the picture quality of the TVs? Or are the settings different (ie. Hisense in Filmaker while TCL is in Eco mode? Or is it that your camera can't accurately show the two TV images together. Just by looking at your video the Hisense appears to have a much better picture.
Hisense and TCLs refusal to unify their global lineups and ranges and naming schemes ist just horribly anti consumer....Europeans have been getting shafted for years by them, with similarish model names despite being absolutely worse in every way than their NA counterparts....less dimming zones, worse panels..... Really bad :/
I noticed that now, that I'm thinking to buy a "qm8". Tvs have several diferent names within europe, it's almost impossible to distinguish wich is wich. Most of the times, I can't even tell what model year they are. 😢
In europe TCL QM8 / QM851G isnst even avaliable at all, even on their global webpage QM8 isnt even listed. Instead they pushing C855 which is totally different model and in size 65 comes with 1344 dimming zones compared to 65QM851G. 2880 local dimming zones. Im looking to get QM851G, model but still without any luck if you are living in europe.
Somebody goofed by putting the Hisense on the right when the displays are shown, but on the left when the scorecards are shown... Also @6:04, why does the Hisense appear to have the higher value for peak 10% window (3691 vs 3467), but lower review score for the category overall?
I have a 65 inch tcl 6series 2022 and I love It......I plan to upgrade to an 85 inch this upcoming black friday and It'll be between these 2 tv's....I'm torn but the final deciding factor will be price...but I'm leaning towards the TCL
The Hisense seems to at least show that the flowers are purple. They are almost completely blown out and white on the TCL (at least when viewing on TH-cam).
@@MeLucky-KuNGPaOhey I assume u re NOT -- CHAD or Stacy 🎉😂! There hot men/Women do NOT waste time , making fake TH-cam profile , with someone’s pic . Then trash talking in that person’s video ! So who d hell r u ??? Stop 😮acting like Abby’s ex or the one jealous of her just cuz Downton Abby is Tv reviewer princess 👸🏼
My question is, which tv will have zero issues and actually last the longest? I've only owned LG OLEDs, and tne burn in is unacceptable. I'm done with OLED's.
I will get U8N or U9N . The ADS-Pro screen 75” in U8N , n the ADS -Pro screen in U9N (85” 75) , they r like the dense color clear wet paint . So pleasant to look at . Coming from OLED most ppl get those panels cuz looks like QD-OLED , then it’s mini LED 😊
@@JuanMedina-wp3lu dude most ppl coming from Mid range LED or entry led . Even low end led like SONY X85K (Direct LeD) or a those U6 or Samsung QN70!.’going to Qm7 then it’s a good upgrade . Coming from OLED , u will only be able to do U8K/U8N Qm8 . Cuz d Eyes get used to certain Taste of visual . Get U8K or Qm8 since they r on clearance
In my opinion, these are completely different categories of TVs. The TCLs prices in the USA is determined only by the policy of the company, which sells its TVs much cheaper in the USA than in Europe. TCL x955 has lower models such as the c955 and c 855, the last one is sold at the same price as the Hisense U8N model. Also the Hisense in Europe doesn't have Google tv but Vidaa.
Hey Abby and dear Rtings team. We're slowly approaching Black Friday and I'm thinking about upgrading my Sony XH95. The TCL QM851G can now also be found in Germany/Europe under the name “TCL Q10BX1” or “TCl Q10BX”. Does it even make sense to upgrade my XH95? I'm a gamer and I play a lot. Power consumption is also important to me, as the Sony (65") uses quite a lot. I'm more in favor of the Hisense, because the TCL currently costs a lot more. Kind regards from Germany ✌️😉
I am looking for a 75” tv and almost bought the U8N. Still waiting for the prices to go down. Watching this video, you said the 75” U8N is not that good compared to the 65” U8N. Is the difference in contrast and brightness. What would you suggest that I would purchase? Thanks Abby.
75” is Better ! I saw last year 75” U8K in person in 2 difff stores . Those r next level premium. They look like glossy black vibrant WET paint . So clear n rich in color
I have the 98” tcl S5 it’s great!!! I just ordered the 98” TCL qm7 for $2000 at Best Buy and I have 60 days to to return because I have the plus pro membership. It will be delivered next week and should I just return it and wait for next year Black Friday for the 98”qm8????? I seen the qm7 screen is simi gloss, but I like the all gloss on the qm8 I think the pictures it pops more..
Because all lights r blended/produced d same way at SAME time . For example if they add more red , then all the other Colors will look funny ! That’s what some seasoned 😮TV guy at Future Shop (I miss that store , Bearbuy bought it then shut it down ) told me that How SONY LEDs r too blue !!!! I asked why can they JSUT add more color ! The perfect combo only exist in -- Sharp Aquos Quatrum . Which no longer in USA/Canada He told me they could , but they will mess up other color , magenta , green , yellow white . It affects EVERYTHING!!!
@@Yoga_Tv_buying Sony has one of the most accurate TVs in the world, you and that future shop guy need to go hang out with stevie wonder and stick to audio listening.
@@vcam-g9h yeah -Research Scientist 👩🔬 in school will tell u Most Accurate Color does NOT exist. Your brain willl Perceive color in ANY time of day due to where u sit/room light content. If a PHD science professor ask u a question 🙋 in class:” what do u call the color wall at night? Dark Grey? Grey ? Beige ? Or u --SEE (your brain 🧠 tell u ) its “WHHHHHHITE?” A Lavender color attached to Pale white it looks very much Medium Purple. D Seact shade attached to Dense dark purple/black suddently it looks like Pale white purple. SONY’s Practice of Having--Blue tinted LED/OLED calling that Accuacy is NOT realisitc. Human eyes have 2X--Sensors to receive warm color than COOL 🆒 tone. Thats why in cloudy 🌥️ day cloud ☁️ Block MOSt LongWave Length RED Light. U lose Majority of INFO Sourse for your Brain 🧠 to process image as 3D. So cloudy day eveythgign looks 2D/ Flat, depressing. SONY LG LED/OLED/ QD-OLED has systempatic track record of being --pestle blue. Its the utter AGAINST-Human Biology. But Marketing upselling, talk d Talk, grandiose ppl high five 🖐️ talking points. Ps never mind the Reference MOnitor was what they DONATED tons SONY TV/Camera to hollywood (early in the door) that they all stared using it n later they could use as (oh thats d Standard). Human biology 🧬 we re Reacting to Big words(sttandrd, ONLY, Special, premium, Reference…..) that d same thing they put “ Hand Made” on every product. Yeah all things are mostly hand made. That UP 🆙 the produce “perceived Value” (its Real Busienss School Marketing Explaining --SONY FUNNY Advertising for TV). So that Standard created by SONY to measure Other TVs. I mean hello What do u think the result will be ? 🤔 We look like our siblign or some stranger from different country? Steve wonder will like me better duz I have Shi he will enjoy, not talking smack :)
Will there be reviews for the hisense A85K OLED? It's rare to find such a good review, it would mean to buyers of Hisense technology if they made a review with a Hisense OLED model.
Has Hisense updated the vrr issue (in game mode)? Black Friday week starts in 2 days and im pulling the trigger on an 85" in 🇨🇦 (where tvs are 2 - 4 times more expensive than anywhere else).
Do it budy ! I Own 2 U8 n they r like 4 yr old model , they next level premium . Still look significantly better than SONY X90L. My family in IT , they only buy high end tech . They think Hisense r higher end than SONY LG. (Those r not into TV ppl, just their comments at passing ) we buy Mac Pro , iPad PRo ….. I just received my $2500 IPhone 16Pro bought straight out of store . for TV , they first pick is Hisense . (We were all SONY snobs before ) 😂. I am getting new one. They always do update . My U8 just went thru major update recently significant improve on function n image . They do update a few times a year .
I really don't understand these getting 9+ on reflections, they are like mirrors in the test and can even see the equipment in the demo shots, I don't understand how people can ignore it when viewing, and the idea of bumping the brightness to counter it does not seem like a sensible idea for your eyes. I run a QD OOLED monitor for work & gaming, and even in a near ideal setup for lights it still reflects. At the moment it seems the like 95D is the only option for me on the market and it is _expensive_ in a domain where tech changes fast.
Dude u have NOT seen Hisense Flagship LEDs . They r next level premium . Hisense is d only tv doesn’t have those OLED / QD Oled reflection issues . If u r using Qd-oled for work -- that means that most image is -- bright. Ppl have 75 85” 98” tv in large room with sky light 💡/ huge windows / French 🚪! If mid day watching Game of Thrones(dark n slow scenes ) -- marathon mid day = Game OVER . 🎉
@@Yoga_Tv_buying I have, I seen them in Richer Sounds, and they really don't pop compared to the OLED I can't lie... even got given the remote to try and adjust settings. Not that I mind personally, but I have actually seen the flagship Hisense LEDs and they are OK... definitely did not blow me away compared to all the OLED, but an unfair comparison perhaps 🤷
@@loquek appreciate u tried to get remote. Most ppl do NOT own HIsense u8 U7 doesnt know how to set it up well. Usually takes at least couple of weeks to slowly figure out. Once its done any U7 U8 is easy on the fly. So I belive u tried to set it up. I did too with U8H U8K.in store (mutiple times all 65” 75”). The Store employees 4 of them came over zoom in asking me “what did u do? IT looks identical to QD-OLED”. The guy standing behind me 10 feet away looking at 75” Sony Flagship A95K QD-OLED was more confused that he finally diteched the SONY A95K 75” came over to look at U8K 75” ADS-PRO n going around Hisense in circle ⭕️ to see viewing angle n black level etc. n eventually more confused cuz its NOT oled. N looked better more vibrant than that 75” A95K hanging directly face to face of HIsense . Yeah 👍🏻 dude it sone of those things have to get quick tweak. Most ppl do Not know how to ADD perfect contrast/or Lower contrast or UP color Volume. (The Brighter the TV needs to have Higher Color Density/volume) . Like how outdoor parking lot eveyrthing looks bright, but Billboard on highway just as bright but Vibrant. Its the--Color Volume matters. NOT black. Most ppl try to turn black down n leave whatever it is , its like putting tv content on --OUT Door Parking lot mid day 12pm sun 🌞. It will NOT look good 👍🏻. U might wanna try again. Because it has 3X color Voluem of G3 G4. 4X color volume of C3 C4 A80L. Especally larger panel 75” 85”….all small parts of tv is stretched out. U need color Density. OLED is 1 trick pony. The mini led vs G3 G4 🥮vs 🥐 🥬 vs 🧩 🪼 vs 🐋 🐦🔥 vs 🍉 🌺 vs 🌸 🔮vs 👩🎤
Great stuff thanks. In Canada, the 100" U8N was/is as low as 6,400.00 Cdn right now and the TCL QM8 98" hasn't been on sale yet that I have seen, it's 7,999.00. Still think the U8N will go down to 5,900.00 Cdn by Xmas....so whoever is the lowest at Xmas gets my money :) If anyone sees better please post here thanks!!
I can go to Chinese site to do some screen recoding with U8N n TCL 💯 to help others . I plan to do it anyway . Cuz I was looking for 100” u8N myself lol 😊
I have the TCL and when I put on a Lighting zone transition test, the white circles brightness will flash brighter even though it's supposed to stay a specific brightness the whole time. I have gone through all the troubleshooting steps possible, the only thing that fixes it is disabling local dimming. TCL Support says this is normal behavior, but none of the reviews anywhere online mention it randomly flashbanging you when local dimming is active. Has anyone else experienced anything similar?
In Australia we do not have a TCL QM8 or X955 we have a C855. How am I supposed to know what I am getting and not a worse model, Why do this name confusion. And if these are the same models why do they perform differently depending on region. What the hell is going on.
What Mini LED brand Does not have issues vrr enabled? I dont remember my qn90a having any compared to both hisense and tcl, does sony or lg mini led tv have vrr issues at a certain framerate? Also why do hisense/tcl contrast enhancer does not brighten their screens as in samsungs?
Any chance for future videos you could stop switching which TV and chart is on the left and right? Through this video the TVs and charts flip back and forth. Pretty hard to keep straight in my head which is which.
@@MeLucky-KuNGPaO I have had s95b, qn90a, LG C3 and is not about money but how much of a good tv you can get now. Are the tv I mention better? yes but not by much.
@@MeLucky-KuNGPaO u must have mental issues . U Called Abby some fat cow 🐄 Heifer ! In 2 other comments . Here u call ppl Poor . U need to get lost n stfu 🦑
Me 4yr first U8 55”(cost me $900USD ) , 3 yr 2nd U8 ($1450 aft tax) both no extra Waranty . They run like tank . Same as my buddy’s U7 65” he bought bought SONY but can not compete with my Hisense Image quality . N U8 was sold out that year -- U8H was Original TV bomb shocked TV Industry . The quality issues r NOT in ULED line . Ppl mistake their $199 -- Roku TV (made to be cheap ) as same with ULED line . The same mistake ppl buy VW Jetta/Beetle , Toyota Prius mistake them similar as Audi A6 , Lexus Business Sport luxury. (Audi- VW, Toyota-Lexus , Nissan -INFINITI) same company:)
I really would like a 75" and I would have liked a Hisense because I love contrast! Why in the world did they use a different panel on their 75 inchers? Great comparison video Abby, really appreciate it! Between the TCL and Hisense which 75" performs better due to the different panel? Please! Thanks again!!
The Current TV : Contrast measuring method is Dated, not just rings, the OVER ALL in INdustry. Color volume of YELLOW---Well known in Decades, the HARDEST color to produce in ANY TV (thats why WOLED , SONY LED etc always look so Blue casted n Pestle. They rely using Hollywood so called Reference MOnitor blue tinted thing to CAST its pristege, in FACT in HUMAN biology 🧬 program, any professor will tell u --U HAVE 2 X yes 🙌 2X WARM color sensor than cool tone in EACH eye BALL! If TV is too COOL (usually SONY /LG WOLED , even Samsung S90C S90D can not escape it ) u lose a LOT of information that --EYEs capture, then send the INFO to brain 🧠 for Image processing to make things OUT of 3D at a GUESS. What u see is WHAT YOUR BAIN GUESS !!!😮 A black coat is usually grey, a black tire is grey. A white wall is usually beige or lighter medium shape of grey. A Black person is NOT black, An Asian person can ofer look much more pale than Tanned or pint toned White person…something something something. --this Rtings stats Yellow Luminance= A80L 405 cd/m² C4 425 cd/m² G4 546 cd/m² G3 546 cd/m² S95C 1,151 cd/m² HisenseUX 2,140 cd/m²-2023 Bravia9 2,427 cd/m²-2024 75U8N 1,810 cd/m²-🧀💛 U8N 1,776 cd/m² U8K 1,475 cd/m² A95L 882 cd/m² --“King🤴🏼of TV Shootout??😼👀 Bravia7 1,547 cd/m² X95L 1,154 cd/m²-2023 X90L 1,046 cd/m²-2023 S90D 1,133 cd/m² Yeah just trying to help . D LARGER d tv gets , COLOR volume MATTERs --- to dictate the Visual of 3D 😊or 2D . Not black . Because TV 📺 so LARGE, image is stretched OUT ! U need highlights n color volume to retain 3D visual. 😊 especially 77” n LARGER 😊😊😊 Mini LED / QD-OLED (flagship birght QD-OLED). Vs G3 G4 Panasonic (Bright OLED with MLA ) 🥮vs 🥐 🥬 vs 🧩 🪼 vs 🐋 🐦🔥 vs 🍉 🌺 vs 🌸 🔮vs 👩🎤
D Current-- Contrast 😮testing method is -- developed 70 years ago by RCA - when they release CT-100 tv in 1951 or something . In Science 🧬 school 🏫 - those Bio Science professors tell u -- tv watching . Contrast is Seen by 1 Color against another Color . Not black to white . Day time all u see are by Color to Color . Black does -- NOT exist . Any black is -- GREY seen by brain 🧠n being processed compare to surrounding n Decided/Perveived as Black. As long as Surpunding is Bright the Dark grey is seen as black. But most visuals yr face , arms legs . 🦵 contrast is delivered by Color - Volume /Density under the Over All CASTED sun ☀️ That’s over Millions of years of evolution ! I can go on for 2 hours but the -- CONTRAST method using ONLY black/ white is Dated. Black n white then Color Density casted on brightness 🔅 to create the texture create -- contrast combine ! U won’t get this anywhere else . Most hardware tech ppl won’t notice the biology side ! TV 📺 on projects images like light source ! eyes just like Security Camera- capture /deliver Data ! Brain 🧠 does the processing . What we see is NOT up to what those - film Maker mode or Those “professional calibration “ tells us . :):)
I don’t think it will be worse than other size . If that is d case ask SONY fans : 😊WHY is your 2023 SONY best Seller X90L 55” only have 52 (I am not lying ! ) dimming zones ? Sony X90L 65”- 88 zones Sony X93L 65” -384 zones Sony Bravia 7 65”- 480 zones . ☝🏼those r 65” 55” U8N with Color Density match /Surpass Samsung flagship QD-oled. s95D , with incky black screen , -- FULL gloss . Will be absolutely 💯 breath taking . 😊 Smaller tv ppl sit closer -- so it doesn’t need to be THAT bright , So doesn’t need to be that many zones to manage the brightness ! But focus on fine toning image
No, they're smaller TVs therefore they don't need as many dimming zones to achieve the same black level and bloom performance. In fact the 55 inch Hisense has more dimming zones per square inch than the 65 inch model, even though the 65 inch has more overall dimming zones.
@@PumpUptheJam81 I have two surround sound systems (living room and family room) connected to our main TVs. Nevertheless, I still like to buy TVs that actually provide decent sound since other family members don't like to solely rely on turning on our surround sound systems every time they watch TV - and they deserve decent sound, too (even if just relying on the TV's sound). I had the U8H and it had impressive sound for a TV. Recently bought the new U8N and it has even better sound (and better picture) than the U8H. It's quite impressive - especially since you don't need to turn on the surround system to enjoy watching it. This is why sound from a TV is also important to me - and, I imagine, other people as well, even if not for you.
Had to buy Hisense because 55 inch is the correct size for the small room I was buying it for, and for some reason TCL hates making a higher end TV anything smaller than 65.
Not much to pick about , im watching from LG OLED , they are the same . Hisense is a bit more bright , TCL has a bit better upscaling , but Hisense brightness is overkill and TCL updcaling wont work on PC and stuff , only built in apps ....so if you are like me on PC , they are the same . If you on the other hand watch cable , then TCL has a bit better upscaling . I would for a TV , chose used OLED then new Hisense or TCL .... Once you go OLED , even with their drawbacks , you dont go back .
Absolutely maddening that Hisense made the 75" ADS pro instead of VA. Now people that want the 75" have no choice but to go with the QM8. I seen the 65" U8N in person and its better than the QM8, a big reason is the reflective quality, but the QM8 is better than the ADS 75" hisense.
Theres a guy who runs a TV repair depot and he talked about the brands that most come into his shop. 1st was Hisense and 2nd was Samsung ( excluding 5+ yrs and older models). Its near impossible to find any warranty info on any of these brands . I think its kept very hush hush imo.
TCL is doing the same than Samsung does in south America for the QN90a from 55inches used ads panels instead of VA one and the price doesn't justify get a QN90A instead get a QN85A having same panel but less zones of dimming
They have the same problem, available in north America. Elsewhere its try and error, performance for the same model can also be different depending on region especially for hisense
Salve, vorrei un consiglio di quale modello scegliere tra TCL 55QM8B e Hisense U79NQ il mio utilizzo e in salotto per vedere serie tv e giocare con Xbox/play5 in più vorrei sapere se appenderlo con attacco vesa al muro si va a perdere l'utilizzo del Subwoofer grazie e complimenti
How come when you do the HDR brightness comparison at 6:22 the scene with the purple flowers look the same, but when you have both TVs behind Abby showing the same image the Hisense looks to have the brightness turned down and the colors turned up? That makes me feel like there is a little bias going on for the U8N having had it's picture adjusted but not the QM8. While all the test results shown may be accurate, by having that stark difference between the images behind Abby, you're subconsciously pushing the idea that the U8N is a vastly superior picture.
Hisense bought Sharp TV , Toshiba , Hitachi …. Bunch of them they just have d Best color formula n LED patterned. The Canadian Broadcasting Company (CBC - Federal News ) reported, that SHARP tv used to produce SONY 💯 LED at begining of 2010-2012 . Sony Bravia in 2010-2012 all Sharp TV with sony logo. N global LED of all brands . Ever since Hisense Bought Sharp n a bunch Main TV player they perfected their LED recipe ! Others can not touch .
I am legally blind with blurry vision. Good video if you can 👀 see. I guess watching your whole comparison video was a waste of time for me. You have a nice voice.
I was looking for a 75” tv and the Hisense 75 has a worse panel so i chose TCL and bought it on Amazon for 1k€. The Hisense in Slovenia costs 1.4k€ with a discount. So I got a slightly better TV for 2/3 of the price :)
Dude it’s not true . The - WORSE is miss understanding . Hisense 110” UX -- $20000 TV , U9N (EU small UX ) all use that ADS - Pro screen . They won’t be fool to put worse screen in expansive TV. Ppl do NOT own their 75” they hust “Jugging “ by the spect . Like how ppl Uses to call Tesla 😮same type of car as Toyota Ppirus. (Electrical ) n echo chamber trash talking . TCL is good tv. I will pick 75” U8N over TCL ANY day cuz I have seen those screens . It ruins d rest of tv
Price-dependent, both obviously beat Bravia 7 if that’s priority….what about independent of price, does Bravia 7 processing and picture “better” these, or still no?
The upscaling is iffy to judge . Because in All test , Samsung / Hisense used to be put to -- film maker mode (Sharpness - 0 😮% ! Contrast down to 45, black /grey level elevated at 50% . Color spac switched from clean 🧼 visual to “Auto” which is weird mushy Dilm dim blue mush . Motion clearing down to off , n noise processing. Off , digital noise … Off . SONY n TCL do not have d “Kill switch “ in the settings . So for long time it has been convenient for TH-camr like Digital Trends to Pitch how “if u want better tv go with SONY X90L “
😂 How do anyone upscale something that is crusty n mushy n blooming to start tooth . Its like putting Lipstick on Becky then compare to Stacy - in Stacy plain face worst morning shot :) As soon as u Tweek U8 , TCL QM8. Sony Game over 🎉 😊 contrast : (Rtings ) UX-- 98” 110” launch 🚀 end year U9N- 75” 85” coming out . (Euro UX 2024) UX ---400000:1 (2023 model UX) Bravia9-380000:1 U8N---290000:1 X95L--200000:1 QN90D- 167000:1 U8k---165000:1 Qm851-161000:1 U8H-- 160000:1 C845--114000:1 Bravia7-100000:1 U7N---89000:1 Q90C-- 83000:1 U6N---80000:1 X93L---72000:1 U8G--- 54000:1 (2021 ) U7k----45300:1 X90L--- 42000:1
Ha Let me help u with Rtings stats(they test everything 4-6 weeks) contrast : (Rtings ) UX-- 98” 110” launch 🚀 end year U9N- 75” 85” coming out . (Euro UX 2024) UX ---400000:1 (2023 model UX) 🔥 Bravia9-380000:1 U8N---290000:1 X95L--200000:1 QN90D- 167000:1 U8k---165000:1 Qm851-161000:1 U8H-- 160000:1 Qm8--114000:1 Bravia7-100000:1 U7N---89000:1 Q90C-- 83000:1 U6N---80000:1 X93L---72000:1 U8G--- 54000:1 (2021 ) U7k----45300:1 X90L--- 42000:1-- SONY LOL 👈🏻👀🗿🗿-? Best Processing?🧞♂️ Hey, look up CES TV 2023 , CES tv 2024. U will find NO SONY TV attending the MOST important eletronic Event in the world First time 2 years in a row 30 years. WHY? Their X90L, Sever Blooming, Heavily MATTED screen, and low color. SONY LEDs can NOT compte, so u will ONLY HEAR online n in store Sales pitch (confirmation bias) n buy a X90L 65” ONLY 88 Local dimming zone sever blooming. Its so weird my 2021 Hisense U8G 65” I paid $1500 USD aft tax 3 years ago already 384 local dimming zones from way back ( back then matching 2023 X93L dimming zone) n still 2X Native contrast ratio n better color volume. X90L only has 88 local dimming zone, when 2024 U8N -1600 zones. There is NO comprising😊.
@@Samzep yeah ! Same here . Google it up “ SONY SHARP TV partnership “ Sony’s Top tier Bravia LCD(2008-2012) , then LED(2010 -2012) used to be -- Purchases from Sharp Tv (like they do with OLED now for years ) . 2012 Sony announced “we drop Sharp as partner “ . Sharp got Bought by Hisense 2 yr later . Hisense (high end U8 , not the cheap low end Roku which U8 is mistaken as a lot ) has a LOT of spectacular Visuals reminds ppl of Original premium SONY LG . That’s why I suggest u Google it up , so u see the history on yr own eyes . Hisense TCL r all great ! Hisense has Absolutely vibrant Color rich pleasant to eyes . It’s like rich n dense subtle visual just pleasant to stare at . One of those things I have to own it to see it beside ppl trash talking they do not own one . Or they see cheap low end - $240 A series mistaken as high end as soon as the name “Hisense “ being mentioned . :)
U8N . Hisense is known to have best built in speakers in TV for years . Unless u get like $800+ system no need for external sound bar . The tv should have 40w subwoofer n 4 additional speakers .
Such low contrast for that amount of dimming zones and terrible EOTF tracking that lifts shadows and washes out the picture are terrible hits to the QM851. TCL managed to improve the QM850's EOTF from last year yet still shipped this year's QM851 with that atrocious EOTF tracking. They finalized the EOTF fix almost an entire year after the QM850 released and it's been months since they promised to fix the QM851's. Hey TCL, do you want money or not
Didn’t you make a comment on the Hisense when reviewing it that it had not only quality control issues but it was buggy? Why no mention of that? Makes a difference to me.
Becusee me n my other buddy who have 3 Hisense together U8 U7 do not have quality control or buggy issue . 😮the quality issue with $199 Roku has nothing to do with high end U8 U9 UX . (Toyota VW vs Lexus , Audi ). Then buggy issue only happen yearly in June-Aug . Like any new phone launch or Windows OS launch . 🚀 Already had New Firmware update last 2 weeks. No more bug .
@@thesecondcoming4425 yeah I agree ☝🏼 . Totally 👍🏻. The TV 📺 quality issues r addressed by Hisense . I was worried same thing , almost bought Samsung . My family said :” get U8. If it suck just return “ . lol I was an expecting Roku quality . Now my family all think their ULED lines r better build class than SONY . (We had 2 Made in Japan 🇯🇵 quite pricy LEDs before ) so we were actually has worst worry lol 😝
No not the same . Those r STUNNING ! This year VA is Significant UPGRADE on any VA of TV ! They r FULL Gloss , much viewing angle just absolutely vibrant
I can’t speak for this year specifically, but my U8K was HORRIBLE in this regard. The TCL might be better off because it seems to try and actually trade blows with Sony’s lineup, but my U8 definitely had abhorrent ghosting in darker scenes. I mainly noticed it in games like The Last of Us, where it’s very common to be in dimly lit areas. Not too surprising, as these models are typically all panel no processing, and usually skip out on finer details in exchange for great overall value. Not saying they aren’t great TV’s but I’d definitely take a Bravia 7 and it’s much less impressive brightness and local dimming in exchange for the better build quality and reliability.
@@Yoga_Tv_buying Okay. So feel free to elaborate on where exactly you “disagree”. Like I said, these obviously aren’t just flawless alternatives to better manufacturers such as Sony or Samsung, the price difference comes from somewhere in production. In this case, these TV’s have terrible capabilities when it comes to effectively managing motion, which causes the issues with ghosting. Aside from that, the dude asks about ghosting, and you start going off about the glossy coating and viewing angles. Are you sure you’re aware of what he’s actually asking?
@ SONY’s BEST Bravia LCd were bought from Samsung before 2009 , then 2009-2012 SONY’s best LCDs were bought from -- SHARP TV , also Sharp Aquos . 2010-2012 💯 SONY Samsung LG’s LED were made by Sharp TV . 2011 samaung started producing Cheap LED in Mexico 🇲🇽 instead of buying Japanese panels from Sharp , Sony panic went back to Samsung ask for cheap panels . The big 3 left Sharp kept Sharp hanging . 2016 Hisense Bought Sharp saved it from Bankruptcy (caused by SONY Samsung LG ) . Dude there is TV drama , they were like Lannisters n Bolton . Sharp Hisense r like Stark. A lot of ppl r supporting d Wrong crowd .
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We were made aware that there is a potential firmware update for the TCL QM8 that aims to improve its PQ EOTF tracking, but we haven't seen it yet. We will add a new pinned comment with an update if there is a significant change after the new update!
What picture mode are these in? The hisense appears to have much better color and depth to me but not sure if its just because of the picture mode you used.
Let’s say the pq eotf gets on track is that one firmware update going to put the tcl ahead or would the Hisense still be the better tv ? Im assuming the brightness will go down to be more accurate but I don’t know if this will increase the native contrast or how that’s possible
Why nobody doesn't mention about using TCL QM8 as a monitor, especially for Mac with 5K resolution? How does it work with a text?
Can we assume that the mentioned TCal firmware update did not create a significant change?
The fact that you constantly keep swapping which TV is on the left vs right is MADDENING. Early on I very clearly preferred the picture of the TV on the right - which I thought was the Hisense - but then all of your comparison charts show the TCL on the right. I had to go back and look at the stands from section to section to make sure I knew which TV was which. Just keep the same TV on the same side throughout the comparison!!
I have a feeling she did that purposely. It kept me on my toes lol
Like you guys said, can't go wrong with either. Got my U8N back in May before the TCL was out.
Are there any issues thus far? Debating between the TCL or Hisense never owned either brand. Have only had LG OLED's, and the burn in was bad, I'm done with OLED's.
@@shanew7361 none at all!
@@shanew7361 no issues at all! But of course that doesn't mean no one has issues with them.
@@shanew7361what is the last LG OLED model you've owned?
What size did you get?
Thank you Abby. I've been waiting for this comparison for months now.
Hope it was helpful!
Got the Hisense UN8 back in July, won it in a contest. It's the best TV I've ever owned and I've owned an LG OLED for 8 years.
Congrats! What size is it?
Are u sure? I bought qm u8n over qm851g😢
@@JZapata1987 I just bought the Qm851 tonight. I am debating canceling and checking out the U8N because it's $100 cheaper. That said, I think either tv is amazing.
What are your thoughts so faR?
@ Well I think Hisense do it better job specially u8n 👍 go for it 👏 im waiting for the Black Friday and I hope to find a Sony for less price 🤞🏼
I saw some people mentioning ghost screening on the U8N but not sure if it is totally true
Great comparison Abby! Thanks for posting it! I already bought the 75 inch U7N (with less brightness and contrast) and it's fantastic! Still had to lower brightness for my taste for a average bright room. Guess I'm not a nit nut like so many...
Thank you! At the end of the day, it's only you that needs to be happy with the purchase 😄
I have a the Hisense U8N and an LG OLED B7 with 10,000 hours on it that's perfect, no burn in. The problem is I have a very bright room with lots of floor to ceiling windows and the OLED was constantly getting washed out. It’s just too dark. The Hisense TV is much better than the OLED in this room and my OLED is much better now in my darker game room upstairs. Both these TV's are 65 inches and honestly the only thing I don't like about the Hisense is the viewing angle and Dolby Vision Gaming, which is turned off on my Xbox Series X. Other than that it's a superior TV for watching sports and it's now football season!
I was debating between these two in July. I ended up with the 65" TCL cause it was on sale at Best Buy for $1399. Two weeks later, they had it for $999. Fortunately, I was in the price match window. So I feel like I got that TV for a steal.
how do you like it so far?
@brianl6151 it's working great in my living room. No real complaints so far
@brianl6151 it's awesome. Blacks are dark enough and it's the brightest tv I've had. Game of Thrones in Dolby Vision is a wonder
my preference is for the hisense again. I've been impressed with the value they offer ever since U8H
I have the 55 inch version of the U8H & for PC gaming the tv has been a nightmare so I went & got the 42 inch C3 & my U8H is collecting dust & I've had a few minor quality issues as well 🤦🏿🤷🏿
@@myquietreviews Which one had the minor issues, C3 or U8H?
@t.k.morris The U8H for console gaming & movie watching it's AMAZING but for PC gaming it's terrible!!! I heard it doesn't do true gaming at 4K 120hz but it actually upscales to that resolution 🤦🏿🤷🏿 My Brother just got a 85 inch U7N & so far he has no complaints & saids it's amazing 👍🏿
6:03 I'm surprised they didn't compare the "real scene" brightness for this video, the TCL QM8 gets twice as bright in small highlights.
The TCL QM8 gives the best contrast of any LCD in scenes with small bright points of light, which is especially relevant for gaming.
hhhmmmm...
I am very happy with my U8N.
I'm not sure if it's just my screen or TH-cam, but the U8N color looks richer and better. I doubt that I'd be able to tell if they weren't next to each other.
if you are on a va panel careful to be exactly in the middle to compare. juste a bit off axis and youlose a lot of color (and contrast)
@@NeoMikeO0onot true . I have 2 U8 I ain’t tilt all day from table I don’t have issue .
@@NeoMikeO0ops my tv 📺 Stand has wheels 🛞. I could tilt my tv towards me , most of time I sit at tilt with ISsue it’s not because of color , but Weird Angle 📐 ! If u Ever Have Issue with Tilt angle , u know u most likely won’t SIT at that angle 📐 to watch anyway . 😊 . Like I don’t like sitting at side of Theater 🎭 to watch movie . I rather sit at mid back .
Yup the purple flower , T CL whites looks washed out there
Hisense might just have more color in the out of the box mode. But the QM8 is known to display colors better than the U8N. Especially Blue and Orange where Hisense struggles.
I jut got the 98" TCL QM851G, have had it for around a week, and MAN it's utterly spectacular! I got it on sale at Bet Buy for $3,999, which is a major bargain compared to the competition. Compared to my old 79" LG, it's not in the same Universe, the TCL is so bright, the blacks are SO black, the colors are spectacular. I just think we've reached a point where we are splitting microscopic hairs to even see differences between all the top tier TV's. As many have said, It's hard to go wrong these days. I have it connected up via optical output to a pair of Devialet 108db Phantom I speakers, and the combination is beyond amazing!
Makes you wonder how good they will be in 5 years - Brighter and closer to OLED in control and blacks . OLED won't stand still either brighter. true RGB coming. 4000NIts must be next year for these 2 models . Full BT2020 is still years away, as I think even no $30000 reference monitor can do it. Some wavelengths are very hard to produce
@@nimblegoat SHARP Already did that (Beyond the So Called Refernce MOnitor)
Look up SHARP Aquos Quatrum. Qua means--4 in latin. That panel has 🟥🟩🟨🟦 4 yes--4 base light . can produce 99.99% color Human Eyes can see 🟪🟪🟨🟧🟥🟩🟫 🟦truely vibrant color without adding 1 shade of something n messing up d Rest of color pool. Reference Monitor is old school standard does NOT fit Young ppl Appitite.
yeah most ppl are shocked that SHAP Leds 2010 alreay had able to do 3Trillion shades of color, the Bravia9 couild only do 1 T. Refernce monitor is just too blue🔹 doesnt fit most ppl’s appitite.
I am going to buy the UX> n lets see in 5 years lol. ps talking about Wave Length. eyes are meant to Track down Warm Tones 🟡🟠🔴🟢🟤 More than 🟣🔵 because most animals , tree, flowers skin towns are wam tones. there 2 X color sensors for warmth than Cold. Reference Monitor has its 🔷cast. it self already Hinders capacity to watch tv shows day time (noat as bad at night) . Thats why SONY LG Demos Almost have TREE/ Blue ocean etc . because makes the GREEN/Blue look artificially --Denser color. when most natrual colors in out door sports/ Basketball NBA. all Warm tone (skin, floor , hair etc). i can bet money on it. LG C3 C4 tv demo are like that.
Hisense bought SHARP tv 10 years ago. It has the capacity to produce the most elegant Natrual eyes that Suit our EYES needs , NOT to fill the Narrative of some Direct’s internet if that Direct hasn’t retired yet.
Same here bro, I purchased it this same tv tcl 851g 98 inch size one, a couple weeks ago, for only 4000$ dollars from bestbuy and i am loving it 😍.
How do you like it thus far? I'm in the market for a 98 inch or larger non oled tv and have no idea what to buy.
@@shanew7361 I still love it. A couple of months in, and it's damn impressive. One thing it does, is show up any substandard source material; Netflix, Amazon Prime, SHO are astounding, but stuff like Peacock can be variable.
Waiting for the 75 U8N review.
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I'll have to say that the constant position changing (TCL on left, now TCL on right, now TCL on left again, now TCL back to the right, now TCL back to the left, etc.) of the TV's in this head to head was very frustrating.
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Hi Abby! Panasonic released OLED models in the US market. Any chance you might be able to review them ?
We have already placed a pre-order for all 3 new Panasonic TVs, looking forward to reviewing them as soon as they come in! 😄
I wondered this same thing, but for their mini LEDs. Great to hear they're getting reviewed!
What about the Hisense U8NQ ??in Europe we habe the U8NQ,is it the same tv?For all i know it has its own OS called Vidaa instead of google tv!
Waiting for the "No thanks, I'll stick to the twice-as-expensive TV I don't actually own" comments to arrive in droves.
‘’Oled” tv
I like my Samsung QN800C 85". I'll stick to that 8k TV in my living room. Does that make you feel better?
LMFAO! Right! It's always ppl who never actually used something that has the most shlt to say.
My U8N 65 is beautiful. A couple glitches in menu speed occasionally. But the picture is stellar. The peak brightness is crazy and shocking at first. I dialed it back a bit
Blacks are gray in a dark room or not? How is dirty screen effect?
Drops in picture quality in game mode?
In all the side by side shots of the two TVs the detail and color depth is better on the Hisense U8N. Do these side by side images truly reflect the picture quality of the TVs? Or are the settings different (ie. Hisense in Filmaker while TCL is in Eco mode? Or is it that your camera can't accurately show the two TV images together. Just by looking at your video the Hisense appears to have a much better picture.
Hisense and TCLs refusal to unify their global lineups and ranges and naming schemes ist just horribly anti consumer....Europeans have been getting shafted for years by them, with similarish model names despite being absolutely worse in every way than their NA counterparts....less dimming zones, worse panels.....
Really bad :/
I noticed that now, that I'm thinking to buy a "qm8". Tvs have several diferent names within europe, it's almost impossible to distinguish wich is wich.
Most of the times, I can't even tell what model year they are. 😢
I commented on a FOMO video about that! They are great TCL/Hisesne but as a UK shoppers it's hard to find a "Right model" review at the moment.
In europe TCL QM8 / QM851G isnst even avaliable at all, even on their global webpage QM8 isnt even listed. Instead they pushing C855 which is totally different model and in size 65 comes with 1344 dimming zones compared to 65QM851G. 2880 local dimming zones. Im looking to get QM851G, model but still without any luck if you are living in europe.
@@jaimepontes3236the QM851G, as far as I know, is sold as the X955 in Europe
Why do you keep changing what side of the screen the TVs are displayed? Silly editing.
The colours on the Hisense appear better, as well as details in the brights.
Somebody goofed by putting the Hisense on the right when the displays are shown, but on the left when the scorecards are shown...
Also @6:04, why does the Hisense appear to have the higher value for peak 10% window (3691 vs 3467), but lower review score for the category overall?
Because weights in math… she also said it in the video…
I have a 65 inch tcl 6series 2022 and I love It......I plan to upgrade to an 85 inch this upcoming black friday and It'll be between these 2 tv's....I'm torn but the final deciding factor will be price...but I'm leaning towards the TCL
Nice job Abby!
U8N won the Eisa award for “premium mini led tv”
The Hisense seems to at least show that the flowers are purple. They are almost completely blown out and white on the TCL (at least when viewing on TH-cam).
It's almost always just the camera. Can't really expose for 2 TV's at one time so the camera clips the brighter one.
Abby is the TV review princess 👸 ❤
@@MeLucky-KuNGPaOhey I assume u re NOT -- CHAD or Stacy 🎉😂! There hot men/Women do NOT waste time , making fake TH-cam profile , with someone’s pic . Then trash talking in that person’s video !
So who d hell r u ??? Stop 😮acting like Abby’s ex or the one jealous of her just cuz Downton Abby is Tv reviewer princess 👸🏼
My question is, which tv will have zero issues and actually last the longest? I've only owned LG OLEDs, and tne burn in is unacceptable. I'm done with OLED's.
I will get U8N or U9N . The ADS-Pro screen 75” in U8N , n the ADS -Pro screen in U9N (85” 75) , they r like the dense color clear wet paint . So pleasant to look at . Coming from OLED most ppl get those panels cuz looks like QD-OLED , then it’s mini LED 😊
I just returned a lg c2 because of dead pixels under 350 hours. Now I’m looking at a tcl qm7.
@@JuanMedina-wp3lu dude most ppl coming from Mid range LED or entry led . Even low end led like SONY X85K (Direct LeD) or a those U6 or Samsung QN70!.’going to Qm7 then it’s a good upgrade . Coming from OLED , u will only be able to do U8K/U8N Qm8 . Cuz d Eyes get used to certain Taste of visual . Get U8K or Qm8 since they r on clearance
@@Yoga_Tv_buyinggot a Sony Bravia 7 for the living room looks great. The TCL QM7 will be going in my room so it’ll be fine.
@@JuanMedina-wp3lu oh great !!! :)
In my opinion, these are completely different categories of TVs. The TCLs prices in the USA is determined only by the policy of the company, which sells its TVs much cheaper in the USA than in Europe. TCL x955 has lower models such as the c955 and c 855, the last one is sold at the same price as the Hisense U8N model. Also the Hisense in Europe doesn't have Google tv but Vidaa.
Hey Abby and dear Rtings team. We're slowly approaching Black Friday and I'm thinking about upgrading my Sony XH95. The TCL QM851G can now also be found in Germany/Europe under the name “TCL Q10BX1” or “TCl Q10BX”. Does it even make sense to upgrade my XH95? I'm a gamer and I play a lot. Power consumption is also important to me, as the Sony (65") uses quite a lot. I'm more in favor of the Hisense, because the TCL currently costs a lot more. Kind regards from Germany ✌️😉
Abby I got the lg C4 and I think is amaizing tv just need some calibration…. I really apreciate your fantastic reviews thank you !!!😊
In my region Asia (Pakistan) TCL didnt launched QM8. The latest model we have is TCL C855? Are they same?
Same here in Saudi Arabia the latest model we have C855 and I think they are same.
I am looking for a 75” tv and almost bought the U8N. Still waiting for the prices to go down. Watching this video, you said the 75” U8N is not that good compared to the 65” U8N. Is the difference in contrast and brightness. What would you suggest that I would purchase? Thanks Abby.
75” is Better ! I saw last year 75” U8K in person in 2 difff stores . Those r next level premium. They look like glossy black vibrant WET paint . So clear n rich in color
I have seen on the video by “GLITCHED” it’s quite glossy just beautiful
Thank you very much for showing what the European model numbers would be! That is really helpful
Very good review. Thanks.
I love my 75" U88N ❤
I have the 98” tcl S5 it’s great!!!
I just ordered the 98” TCL qm7 for $2000 at Best Buy and I have 60 days to to return because I have the plus pro membership. It will be delivered next week and should I just return it and wait for next year Black Friday for the 98”qm8?????
I seen the qm7 screen is simi gloss, but I like the all gloss on the qm8 I think the pictures it pops more..
Wonder why it's difficult to get the PQ EOTF tracking correct
Its not hard its just that TCL intentionally choose to overbrighten the tv to try and wow people and that is the end result.
Because all lights r blended/produced d same way at SAME time .
For example if they add more red , then all the other Colors will look funny !
That’s what some seasoned 😮TV guy at Future Shop (I miss that store , Bearbuy bought it then shut it down ) told me that How SONY LEDs r too blue !!!! I asked why can they JSUT add more color !
The perfect combo only exist in -- Sharp Aquos Quatrum . Which no longer in USA/Canada
He told me they could , but they will mess up other color , magenta , green , yellow white . It affects EVERYTHING!!!
@@Yoga_Tv_buying Sony has one of the most accurate TVs in the world, you and that future shop guy need to go hang out with stevie wonder and stick to audio listening.
@@vcam-g9h That’s new way to call ppl blind. Lol I thought i Have seen/heard it all. Listening lmao.
@@vcam-g9h yeah -Research Scientist 👩🔬 in school will tell u Most Accurate Color does NOT exist. Your brain willl Perceive color in ANY time of day due to where u sit/room light content.
If a PHD science professor ask u a question 🙋 in class:” what do u call the color wall at night? Dark Grey? Grey ? Beige ? Or u --SEE (your brain 🧠 tell u ) its “WHHHHHHITE?”
A Lavender color attached to Pale white it looks very much Medium Purple. D Seact shade attached to Dense dark purple/black suddently it looks like Pale white purple.
SONY’s Practice of Having--Blue tinted LED/OLED calling that Accuacy is NOT realisitc.
Human eyes have 2X--Sensors to receive warm color than COOL 🆒 tone. Thats why in cloudy 🌥️ day cloud ☁️ Block MOSt LongWave Length RED Light. U lose Majority of INFO Sourse for your Brain 🧠 to process image as 3D. So cloudy day eveythgign looks 2D/ Flat, depressing.
SONY LG LED/OLED/ QD-OLED has systempatic track record of being --pestle blue. Its the utter AGAINST-Human Biology. But Marketing upselling, talk d Talk, grandiose ppl high five 🖐️ talking points.
Ps never mind the Reference MOnitor was what they DONATED tons SONY TV/Camera to hollywood (early in the door) that they all stared using it n later they could use as (oh thats d Standard). Human biology 🧬 we re Reacting to Big words(sttandrd, ONLY, Special, premium, Reference…..) that d same thing they put “ Hand Made” on every product. Yeah all things are mostly hand made. That UP 🆙 the produce “perceived Value” (its Real Busienss School Marketing Explaining --SONY FUNNY Advertising for TV).
So that Standard created by SONY to measure Other TVs. I mean hello What do u think the result will be ? 🤔
We look like our siblign or some stranger from different country?
Steve wonder will like me better duz I have Shi he will enjoy, not talking smack :)
Why nobody doesn't mention about using TCL QM8 as a monitor, especially for Mac with 5K resolution? How does it work with a text?
Because that’s a terrible use case for either of these TVs. Also, they are 4k panels, not 5k so it won’t display 5k retina
Will there be reviews for the hisense A85K OLED?
It's rare to find such a good review, it would mean to buyers of Hisense technology if they made a review with a Hisense OLED model.
Fantastic review really enjoyed watching and now I saved $800+ by not buying the other 65" tv from uknowwho merry christmas
Has Hisense updated the vrr issue (in game mode)? Black Friday week starts in 2 days and im pulling the trigger on an 85" in 🇨🇦 (where tvs are 2 - 4 times more expensive than anywhere else).
Do it budy ! I Own 2 U8 n they r like 4 yr old model , they next level premium . Still look significantly better than SONY X90L. My family in IT , they only buy high end tech . They think Hisense r higher end than SONY LG. (Those r not into TV ppl, just their comments at passing ) we buy Mac Pro , iPad PRo ….. I just received my $2500 IPhone 16Pro bought straight out of store . for TV , they first pick is Hisense . (We were all SONY snobs before ) 😂.
I am getting new one. They always do update . My U8 just went thru major update recently significant improve on function n image . They do update a few times a year .
I really don't understand these getting 9+ on reflections, they are like mirrors in the test and can even see the equipment in the demo shots, I don't understand how people can ignore it when viewing, and the idea of bumping the brightness to counter it does not seem like a sensible idea for your eyes.
I run a QD OOLED monitor for work & gaming, and even in a near ideal setup for lights it still reflects.
At the moment it seems the like 95D is the only option for me on the market and it is _expensive_ in a domain where tech changes fast.
Dude u have NOT seen Hisense Flagship LEDs . They r next level premium .
Hisense is d only tv doesn’t have those OLED / QD Oled reflection issues .
If u r using Qd-oled for work -- that means that most image is -- bright. Ppl have 75 85” 98” tv in large room with sky light 💡/ huge windows / French 🚪!
If mid day watching Game of Thrones(dark n slow scenes ) -- marathon mid day = Game OVER . 🎉
@@Yoga_Tv_buying I have, I seen them in Richer Sounds, and they really don't pop compared to the OLED I can't lie... even got given the remote to try and adjust settings.
Not that I mind personally, but I have actually seen the flagship Hisense LEDs and they are OK... definitely did not blow me away compared to all the OLED, but an unfair comparison perhaps 🤷
@@loquek appreciate u tried to get remote. Most ppl do NOT own HIsense u8 U7 doesnt know how to set it up well. Usually takes at least couple of weeks to slowly figure out. Once its done any U7 U8 is easy on the fly. So I belive u tried to set it up.
I did too with U8H U8K.in store (mutiple times all 65” 75”). The Store employees 4 of them came over zoom in asking me “what did u do? IT looks identical to QD-OLED”. The guy standing behind me 10 feet away looking at 75” Sony Flagship A95K QD-OLED was more confused that he finally diteched the SONY A95K 75” came over to look at U8K 75” ADS-PRO n going around Hisense in circle ⭕️ to see viewing angle n black level etc. n eventually more confused cuz its NOT oled. N looked better more vibrant than that 75” A95K hanging directly face to face of HIsense . Yeah 👍🏻 dude it sone of those things have to get quick tweak. Most ppl do Not know how to ADD perfect contrast/or Lower contrast or UP color Volume. (The Brighter the TV needs to have Higher Color Density/volume) . Like how outdoor parking lot eveyrthing looks bright, but Billboard on highway just as bright but Vibrant. Its the--Color Volume matters. NOT black. Most ppl try to turn black down n leave whatever it is , its like putting tv content on --OUT Door Parking lot mid day 12pm sun 🌞. It will NOT look good 👍🏻. U might wanna try again. Because it has 3X color Voluem of G3 G4. 4X color volume of C3 C4 A80L.
Especally larger panel 75” 85”….all small parts of tv is stretched out. U need color Density. OLED is 1 trick pony.
The mini led vs G3 G4
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Great stuff thanks. In Canada, the 100" U8N was/is as low as 6,400.00 Cdn right now and the TCL QM8 98" hasn't been on sale yet that I have seen, it's 7,999.00. Still think the U8N will go down to 5,900.00 Cdn by Xmas....so whoever is the lowest at Xmas gets my money :) If anyone sees better please post here thanks!!
I can go to Chinese site to do some screen recoding with U8N n TCL 💯 to help others . I plan to do it anyway . Cuz I was looking for 100” u8N myself lol 😊
100" U8N down to 5,499.00 CDN everywhere, so I grabbed one 😎
@@studlygoorite5955 Wow !!!!!!!!
Thanks Abby 💜
I have the TCL and when I put on a Lighting zone transition test, the white circles brightness will flash brighter even though it's supposed to stay a specific brightness the whole time.
I have gone through all the troubleshooting steps possible, the only thing that fixes it is disabling local dimming. TCL Support says this is normal behavior, but none of the reviews anywhere online mention it randomly flashbanging you when local dimming is active. Has anyone else experienced anything similar?
In Australia we do not have a TCL QM8 or X955 we have a C855. How am I supposed to know what I am getting and not a worse model, Why do this name confusion. And if these are the same models why do they perform differently depending on region. What the hell is going on.
What Mini LED brand Does not have issues vrr enabled? I dont remember my qn90a having any compared to both hisense and tcl, does sony or lg mini led tv have vrr issues at a certain framerate?
Also why do hisense/tcl contrast enhancer does not brighten their screens as in samsungs?
Any chance for future videos you could stop switching which TV and chart is on the left and right? Through this video the TVs and charts flip back and forth. Pretty hard to keep straight in my head which is which.
I know it’s Cat 👀n mouse 🐁 chase ! Rtings ! U drop the ball 🫵🏻🫵🏻😜
thanks for the reviews! Looking forward to the LG QNED90 review this year since it's the first time they have ever used a VA panel
yes that is the one that i am interested in not so much these 2.
Important is Android or Google version apart from the depth and colour contrast saturation etc
I bought QM7 and loving it over my 6 series
which 6 series did you have
@@turbojobo 2019 55 inch R625
@@MeLucky-KuNGPaO what do you mean junk? The QM7 is a great tv for the price
@@MeLucky-KuNGPaO I have had s95b, qn90a, LG C3 and is not about money but how much of a good tv you can get now. Are the tv I mention better? yes but not by much.
@@MeLucky-KuNGPaO u must have mental issues . U Called Abby some fat cow 🐄 Heifer ! In 2 other comments .
Here u call ppl Poor .
U need to get lost n stfu 🦑
Panasonic review please!
I would be interested to see the long term reliability reviews from owners.
Me 4yr first U8 55”(cost me $900USD ) , 3 yr 2nd U8 ($1450 aft tax) both no extra Waranty . They run like tank . Same as my buddy’s U7 65” he bought bought SONY but can not compete with my Hisense Image quality . N U8 was sold out that year -- U8H was Original TV bomb shocked TV Industry .
The quality issues r NOT in ULED line . Ppl mistake their $199 -- Roku TV (made to be cheap ) as same with ULED line .
The same mistake ppl buy VW Jetta/Beetle , Toyota Prius mistake them similar as Audi A6 , Lexus Business Sport luxury. (Audi- VW, Toyota-Lexus , Nissan -INFINITI) same company:)
@@Yoga_Tv_buying Thank you
I really would like a 75" and I would have liked a Hisense because I love contrast! Why in the world did they use a different panel on their 75 inchers? Great comparison video Abby, really appreciate it! Between the TCL and Hisense which 75" performs better due to the different panel? Please! Thanks again!!
Everything I ready is that the ADS panel gives a better off axis picture than the VA
The Current TV : Contrast measuring method is Dated, not just rings, the OVER ALL in INdustry.
Color volume of YELLOW---Well known in Decades, the HARDEST color to produce in ANY TV (thats why WOLED , SONY LED etc always look so Blue casted n Pestle. They rely using Hollywood so called Reference MOnitor blue tinted thing to CAST its pristege, in FACT in HUMAN biology 🧬 program, any professor will tell u --U HAVE 2 X yes 🙌 2X WARM color sensor than cool tone in EACH eye BALL! If TV is too COOL (usually SONY /LG WOLED , even Samsung S90C S90D can not escape it ) u lose a LOT of information that --EYEs capture, then send the INFO to brain 🧠 for Image processing to make things OUT of 3D at a GUESS. What u see is WHAT YOUR BAIN GUESS !!!😮 A black coat is usually grey, a black tire is grey. A white wall is usually beige or lighter medium shape of grey. A Black person is NOT black, An Asian person can ofer look much more pale than Tanned or pint toned White person…something something something.
--this Rtings stats
Yellow Luminance=
A80L 405 cd/m²
C4 425 cd/m²
G4 546 cd/m²
G3 546 cd/m²
S95C 1,151 cd/m²
HisenseUX 2,140 cd/m²-2023
Bravia9 2,427 cd/m²-2024
75U8N 1,810 cd/m²-🧀💛
U8N 1,776 cd/m²
U8K 1,475 cd/m²
A95L 882 cd/m² --“King🤴🏼of TV Shootout??😼👀
Bravia7 1,547 cd/m²
X95L 1,154 cd/m²-2023
X90L 1,046 cd/m²-2023
S90D 1,133 cd/m²
Yeah just trying to help . D LARGER d tv gets , COLOR volume MATTERs --- to dictate the Visual of 3D 😊or 2D . Not black .
Because TV 📺 so LARGE, image is stretched OUT ! U need highlights n color volume to retain 3D visual. 😊 especially 77” n LARGER 😊😊😊
Mini LED / QD-OLED (flagship birght QD-OLED). Vs G3 G4 Panasonic (Bright OLED with MLA )
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D Current-- Contrast 😮testing method is -- developed 70 years ago by RCA - when they release CT-100 tv in 1951 or something .
In Science 🧬 school 🏫 - those Bio Science professors tell u -- tv watching . Contrast is Seen by 1 Color against another Color . Not black to white . Day time all u see are by Color to Color . Black does -- NOT exist . Any black is -- GREY seen by brain 🧠n being processed compare to surrounding n Decided/Perveived as Black. As long as Surpunding is Bright the Dark grey is seen as black. But most visuals yr face , arms legs . 🦵 contrast is delivered by Color - Volume /Density under the Over All CASTED sun ☀️
That’s over Millions of years of evolution ! I can go on for 2 hours but the -- CONTRAST method using ONLY black/ white is Dated. Black n white then Color Density casted on brightness 🔅 to create the texture create -- contrast combine !
U won’t get this anywhere else . Most hardware tech ppl won’t notice the biology side ! TV 📺 on projects images like light source ! eyes just like Security Camera- capture /deliver Data !
Brain 🧠 does the processing .
What we see is NOT up to what those - film Maker mode or Those “professional calibration “ tells us . :):)
Do the 55 inch models suffer a lot due to having less dimming zones?
I don’t think it will be worse than other size . If that is d case ask SONY fans : 😊WHY is your 2023 SONY best Seller X90L 55” only have 52 (I am not lying ! ) dimming zones ?
Sony X90L 65”- 88 zones
Sony X93L 65” -384 zones
Sony Bravia 7 65”- 480 zones .
☝🏼those r 65”
55” U8N with Color Density match /Surpass Samsung flagship QD-oled. s95D , with incky black screen , -- FULL gloss . Will be absolutely 💯 breath taking . 😊
Smaller tv ppl sit closer -- so it doesn’t need to be THAT bright ,
So doesn’t need to be that many zones to manage the brightness ! But focus on fine toning image
No, they're smaller TVs therefore they don't need as many dimming zones to achieve the same black level and bloom performance. In fact the 55 inch Hisense has more dimming zones per square inch than the 65 inch model, even though the 65 inch has more overall dimming zones.
Great video! Since these TVs hit such high peak brightness levels, is it OK to turn off the dynamic tone mapping?
did i miss them talking about color accuracy?
Why would you show the TV side by side, but flip them when you view the stats. This makes it confusing. Should have correct that in editing
What about wall mounting for the 75". I dont see the screws on the back for neither.
What is the size of both tv used in review?
65"
Is the tcl qm8 the tcl c855k in the UK??
Great review on two great TVs. But, nothing on sound comparison? Was waiting to hear something on that.
I would hope fellow humans would invest in a decent surround system or sound bar to match the picture, and not rely on wimpy TV speakers.
@@PumpUptheJam81 I have two surround sound systems (living room and family room) connected to our main TVs. Nevertheless, I still like to buy TVs that actually provide decent sound since other family members don't like to solely rely on turning on our surround sound systems every time they watch TV - and they deserve decent sound, too (even if just relying on the TV's sound). I had the U8H and it had impressive sound for a TV. Recently bought the new U8N and it has even better sound (and better picture) than the U8H. It's quite impressive - especially since you don't need to turn on the surround system to enjoy watching it. This is why sound from a TV is also important to me - and, I imagine, other people as well, even if not for you.
What is the QM8 model equivalent to in Australia? They dont sell that model here...😢
With Hisense using the lower contrast IPS ADS pro panel on the 75" I'm jumping ship and going to TCL.
Native contrast is more important.
Had to buy Hisense because 55 inch is the correct size for the small room I was buying it for, and for some reason TCL hates making a higher end TV anything smaller than 65.
How do you like the 55inch U8N ?
Hisense Model:98UX vs TCL 98QM851G??
How do you reduce the color banding in low light dark scenes in the U8N?
Great review Abby. Based on your review I'd go for the TCL.😊
Not much to pick about , im watching from LG OLED , they are the same . Hisense is a bit more bright , TCL has a bit better upscaling , but Hisense brightness is overkill and TCL updcaling wont work on PC and stuff , only built in apps ....so if you are like me on PC , they are the same . If you on the other hand watch cable , then TCL has a bit better upscaling .
I would for a TV , chose used OLED then new Hisense or TCL .... Once you go OLED , even with their drawbacks , you dont go back .
@@dedskin1 I agree with you. I'm a OLED man too. 1 QD OLED and 1 WOLED.
@@dedskin1 used oled? like burn in risk is not enough, you need to increase odds.
I have an 85 qm8 and I love it.
Absolutely maddening that Hisense made the 75" ADS pro instead of VA. Now people that want the 75" have no choice but to go with the QM8. I seen the 65" U8N in person and its better than the QM8, a big reason is the reflective quality, but the QM8 is better than the ADS 75" hisense.
Wonder which one will last longer
Theres a guy who runs a TV repair depot and he talked about the brands that most come into his shop.
1st was Hisense and 2nd was Samsung ( excluding 5+ yrs and older models).
Its near impossible to find any warranty info on any of these brands . I think its kept very hush hush imo.
I own the Hisense and it’s pretty good.
TCL is doing the same than Samsung does in south America for the QN90a from 55inches used ads panels instead of VA one and the price doesn't justify get a QN90A instead get a QN85A having same panel but less zones of dimming
This TCL vs B4 OLED or C4 OLED
I was close to picking up the TCL but the Amazon profile had it classified as a "frequently returned item."
I hear ya, what'd you decide on and why?
They have the same problem, available in north America. Elsewhere its try and error, performance for the same model can also be different depending on region especially for hisense
Salve, vorrei un consiglio di quale modello scegliere tra TCL 55QM8B e Hisense U79NQ il mio utilizzo e in salotto per vedere serie tv e giocare con Xbox/play5
in più vorrei sapere se appenderlo con attacco vesa al muro si va a perdere l'utilizzo del Subwoofer grazie e complimenti
Is the QM8 the same as - 98C855 TCL C855??
I am also looking for same question
Is TCL QM8 same as TCL C855?
@@mfahadb001me too,seems in Europe we don’t have this tv‘s,same with Hisense,we have the U8NQ,with vidaa OS,not sure if it is the same tv!
Any review for the TCL C855 coming?
Does the TCL have the same "Red Ghosting" issue as the Hisense?
Also wondering if the Hisense has the “Purple Ghosting” that was extremely noticeable. Kinda seems to be common with these panels though hahaha
How come when you do the HDR brightness comparison at 6:22 the scene with the purple flowers look the same, but when you have both TVs behind Abby showing the same image the Hisense looks to have the brightness turned down and the colors turned up?
That makes me feel like there is a little bias going on for the U8N having had it's picture adjusted but not the QM8.
While all the test results shown may be accurate, by having that stark difference between the images behind Abby, you're subconsciously pushing the idea that the U8N is a vastly superior picture.
Hisense bought Sharp TV , Toshiba , Hitachi …. Bunch of them they just have d Best color formula n LED patterned.
The Canadian Broadcasting Company (CBC - Federal News ) reported, that SHARP tv used to produce SONY 💯 LED at begining of 2010-2012 . Sony Bravia in 2010-2012 all Sharp TV with sony logo. N global LED of all brands .
Ever since Hisense Bought Sharp n a bunch Main TV player they perfected their LED recipe ! Others can not touch .
I am legally blind with blurry vision. Good video if you can 👀 see. I guess watching your whole comparison video was a waste of time for me. You have a nice voice.
I was looking for a 75” tv and the Hisense 75 has a worse panel so i chose TCL and bought it on Amazon for 1k€. The Hisense in Slovenia costs 1.4k€ with a discount. So I got a slightly better TV for 2/3 of the price :)
Dude it’s not true . The - WORSE is miss understanding .
Hisense 110” UX -- $20000 TV , U9N (EU small UX ) all use that ADS - Pro screen .
They won’t be fool to put worse screen in expansive TV.
Ppl do NOT own their 75” they hust “Jugging “ by the spect . Like how ppl Uses to call Tesla 😮same type of car as Toyota Ppirus. (Electrical ) n echo chamber trash talking .
TCL is good tv. I will pick 75” U8N over TCL ANY day cuz I have seen those screens . It ruins d rest of tv
Price-dependent, both obviously beat Bravia 7 if that’s priority….what about independent of price, does Bravia 7 processing and picture “better” these, or still no?
Bravia 7 still look-- 👀 significantly worse than -- Original Hisense BOMB 💣 (2022 U8H )
65”
U8H -(2022 ) 500 zones , 160000:1 contrast , 7000:1 native contrast .
Full gloss , clean vibrancy ! 😊🎉
B7--(2024) 480 zones .
100000:1 contrast , native contrast -5500:1
N -- MATTED screen -- pestle .
The upscaling is iffy to judge .
Because in All test , Samsung / Hisense used to be put to -- film maker mode (Sharpness - 0 😮% ! Contrast down to 45, black /grey level elevated at 50% . Color spac switched from clean 🧼 visual to “Auto” which is weird mushy Dilm dim blue mush . Motion clearing down to off , n noise processing. Off , digital noise … Off .
SONY n TCL do not have d “Kill switch “ in the settings .
So for long time it has been convenient for TH-camr like Digital Trends to Pitch how “if u want better tv go with SONY X90L “
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How do anyone upscale something that is crusty n mushy n blooming to start tooth . Its like putting Lipstick on Becky then compare to Stacy - in Stacy plain face worst morning shot :)
As soon as u Tweek U8 , TCL QM8. Sony Game over 🎉
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contrast : (Rtings )
UX-- 98” 110” launch 🚀 end year
U9N- 75” 85” coming out . (Euro UX 2024)
UX ---400000:1 (2023 model UX)
Bravia9-380000:1
U8N---290000:1
X95L--200000:1
QN90D- 167000:1
U8k---165000:1
Qm851-161000:1
U8H-- 160000:1
C845--114000:1
Bravia7-100000:1
U7N---89000:1
Q90C-- 83000:1
U6N---80000:1
X93L---72000:1
U8G--- 54000:1 (2021 )
U7k----45300:1
X90L--- 42000:1
@@Yoga_Tv_buying .... Thanks, Yoga, for that info☆
You forgot to mention, based on your own chart, the 85” U8N has less dimming zones than even the 65”. Main reason I’m going for a QM8.
She is the flagship reviewer of RTINGS.
I'd get the LG B4 easily over these two. Better reliability as well.
Any thoughts on how they compare to last years Sony X90L since Sony has better processing?
Ha Let me help u with Rtings stats(they test everything 4-6 weeks)
contrast : (Rtings )
UX-- 98” 110” launch 🚀 end year
U9N- 75” 85” coming out . (Euro UX 2024)
UX ---400000:1 (2023 model UX) 🔥
Bravia9-380000:1
U8N---290000:1
X95L--200000:1
QN90D- 167000:1
U8k---165000:1
Qm851-161000:1
U8H-- 160000:1
Qm8--114000:1
Bravia7-100000:1
U7N---89000:1
Q90C-- 83000:1
U6N---80000:1
X93L---72000:1
U8G--- 54000:1 (2021 )
U7k----45300:1
X90L--- 42000:1-- SONY LOL 👈🏻👀🗿🗿-? Best Processing?🧞♂️
Hey, look up CES TV 2023 , CES tv 2024. U will find NO SONY TV attending the MOST important eletronic Event in the world First time 2 years in a row 30 years. WHY? Their X90L, Sever Blooming, Heavily MATTED screen, and low color. SONY LEDs can NOT compte, so u will ONLY HEAR online n in store Sales pitch (confirmation bias) n buy a X90L 65” ONLY 88 Local dimming zone sever blooming.
Its so weird my 2021 Hisense U8G 65” I paid $1500 USD aft tax 3 years ago already 384 local dimming zones from way back ( back then matching 2023 X93L dimming zone) n still 2X Native contrast ratio n better color volume. X90L only has 88 local dimming zone, when 2024 U8N -1600 zones. There is NO comprising😊.
Sony TV's are the best I think but lots of $$$$$$
We keep asking to do a large format face-off. The TCL 98" will dominate.
TCL qm8 vs Panasonic w95a?
What is the difference between U8NAU and the USA one ?
No diff in visual , but just diff OS , Tv frame . Etc . The AUS n EU ones always look nicer .
@@Yoga_Tv_buying I think I am going to go for U8n over the tcl
@@Samzep yeah ! Same here . Google it up “ SONY SHARP TV partnership “
Sony’s Top tier Bravia LCD(2008-2012) , then LED(2010 -2012) used to be -- Purchases from Sharp Tv (like they do with OLED now for years ) .
2012 Sony announced “we drop Sharp as partner “ . Sharp got Bought by Hisense 2 yr later .
Hisense (high end U8 , not the cheap low end Roku which U8 is mistaken as a lot ) has a LOT of spectacular Visuals reminds ppl of Original premium SONY LG .
That’s why I suggest u Google it up , so u see the history on yr own eyes . Hisense TCL r all great ! Hisense has Absolutely vibrant Color rich pleasant to eyes . It’s like rich n dense subtle visual just pleasant to stare at . One of those things I have to own it to see it beside ppl trash talking they do not own one . Or they see cheap low end - $240 A series mistaken as high end as soon as the name “Hisense “ being mentioned . :)
Does anyone know when the U9N is supposed to release?
I want the same tv . Ready to get 1
It's out now.
@@shanew7361 the U9N is not the U8N I did a search it's not available yet
U9N is more expensive with better specs
Which has better audio?
U8N . Hisense is known to have best built in speakers in TV for years . Unless u get like $800+ system no need for external sound bar . The tv should have 40w subwoofer n 4 additional speakers .
Hdmi 2.1 144hz free-sync?
No ghosting?
Response time in gaming?
Stand by
Such low contrast for that amount of dimming zones and terrible EOTF tracking that lifts shadows and washes out the picture are terrible hits to the QM851. TCL managed to improve the QM850's EOTF from last year yet still shipped this year's QM851 with that atrocious EOTF tracking.
They finalized the EOTF fix almost an entire year after the QM850 released and it's been months since they promised to fix the QM851's.
Hey TCL, do you want money or not
Didn’t you make a comment on the Hisense when reviewing it that it had not only quality control issues but it was buggy? Why no mention of that? Makes a difference to me.
Becusee me n my other buddy who have 3 Hisense together U8 U7 do not have quality control or buggy issue . 😮the quality issue with $199 Roku has nothing to do with high end U8 U9 UX . (Toyota VW vs Lexus , Audi ). Then buggy issue only happen yearly in June-Aug . Like any new phone launch or Windows OS launch . 🚀
Already had New Firmware update last 2 weeks. No more bug .
@@Yoga_Tv_buying no let’s here ratings say it and thank you for the rant. The U7 was never bought up by me. Now let’s stick to the U8N
@@thesecondcoming4425 yeah I agree ☝🏼 . Totally 👍🏻. The TV 📺 quality issues r addressed by Hisense . I was worried same thing , almost bought Samsung . My family said :” get U8. If it suck just return “ . lol I was an expecting Roku quality . Now my family all think their ULED lines r better build class than SONY . (We had 2 Made in Japan 🇯🇵 quite pricy LEDs before ) so we were actually has worst worry lol 😝
Does these kinds of TV VA panels have similar black smear effect like those on PC VA panel monitos？
No not the same . Those r STUNNING ! This year VA is Significant UPGRADE on any VA of TV ! They r FULL Gloss , much viewing angle just absolutely vibrant
I can’t speak for this year specifically, but my U8K was HORRIBLE in this regard. The TCL might be better off because it seems to try and actually trade blows with Sony’s lineup, but my U8 definitely had abhorrent ghosting in darker scenes. I mainly noticed it in games like The Last of Us, where it’s very common to be in dimly lit areas.
Not too surprising, as these models are typically all panel no processing, and usually skip out on finer details in exchange for great overall value. Not saying they aren’t great TV’s but I’d definitely take a Bravia 7 and it’s much less impressive brightness and local dimming in exchange for the better build quality and reliability.
@@cancerousnut7767 absolutely disagree . I don’t think most ppl have seen U8K U8N 75”
Most truck 🛻 owners mock Tesla do not own Tesla .
@@Yoga_Tv_buying Okay. So feel free to elaborate on where exactly you “disagree”. Like I said, these obviously aren’t just flawless alternatives to better manufacturers such as Sony or Samsung, the price difference comes from somewhere in production. In this case, these TV’s have terrible capabilities when it comes to effectively managing motion, which causes the issues with ghosting. Aside from that, the dude asks about ghosting, and you start going off about the glossy coating and viewing angles.
Are you sure you’re aware of what he’s actually asking?
@ SONY’s BEST Bravia LCd were bought from Samsung before 2009 , then 2009-2012 SONY’s best LCDs were bought from -- SHARP TV , also Sharp Aquos .
2010-2012 💯 SONY Samsung LG’s LED were made by Sharp TV .
2011 samaung started producing Cheap LED in Mexico 🇲🇽 instead of buying Japanese panels from Sharp , Sony panic went back to Samsung ask for cheap panels . The big 3 left Sharp kept Sharp hanging .
2016 Hisense Bought Sharp saved it from Bankruptcy (caused by SONY Samsung LG ) .
Dude there is TV drama , they were like Lannisters n Bolton . Sharp Hisense r like Stark. A lot of ppl r supporting d Wrong crowd .