Showing how my REP Ares Cable Attachment arrieved and showing the unboxing process. Let me know if you have any questions or what you would like to see in the review video!
I filmed the unboxing and wasn't going to post it but can't believe nobody has posted anything about the Ares yet so figured might as well lol. Hope you get yours soon!
Nice. This was helpful. Mine is coming tomorrow. I live in a rural area so I have to meet the truck at the mailboxes towards the entrance of our neighborhood. Looks like I’ll have to break down the big box to transport back to the house. Very helpful! Can’t wait to have a cable system
Hi, I'm waiting for a review video. If you can tell us whether it's been worth the cost, give some pros/cons, and also demonstrate the exercises and versatility. That would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Sorry I filmed a review like 3 times now, once after a week or two of use but then coop and a few others put out good reviews but forgot a few things I thought they could've mentioned. But to give a good over view and exercise things it gets to be a pretty long video... and wasn't sure if anybody would watch lol. I do think it is worth it though and really do love having it in the garage. The cables got twisted a bit but I bought some swivel carabiner style clips and really did pretty much solve my twisting problem. It really smooth and super nice to just have the stack vs everything I've had before was plate loaded. Huge time saver. Only con is that I don't really use my strap safties anymore as the trolley on the front would hit them if they were on. I just use my spotter arms inside the rack so I keep the front post pretty much free. Really about the only con besides price but for a home gym where space is an issue, I'm super glad I have it and would buy it again in a heart beat if I had the cash.
Glad to finally see a video, thank you. Please let us know if any foreseeable interferences with any attachments on the uprights with the adjustable pulleys.
The only thing that I found that interfered with the cables were the strap safeties depending where the cable trolleys are. You have to have the trolley under where the safety straps go otherwise they'll hit the cable or have to push the cable out of the way which I just don't feel like would be good for it long term. I just started using my safety spotter arms instead off the middle post but really isn't a big deal to adjust the trolley down when using the safety straps. Only other thing is if you have any mono lifts you'd have to remove them to put them out to the side if you wanted to use the pull down bar that came with the Ares, otherwise it's so wide it'll hit the mono lifts on pull downs. Small things that I really aren't a big deal and will just be second nature to your setup once you get used to it.
@@markhalstead2386 I guess I don't have the flip down safties and it depends which side they go on if that makes sense. If they can both flip down from the inside of the rack then they would work. My safety straps are the same setup side to side so the one side they work and the other side is where you'd have to have the trolley a little lower. Just something I think you get used to and takes 2 seconds to adjust the trolley really.
Thanks for posting. This is the first video I've seen of the Ares - feels like I've been waiting years. Looking forward to seeing your first impressions video. Would be curious how easy it is to change the weight of each stack when you have plate storage attached to the rack. I've got the PR-5000 with plate storage and keep wondering if the plates will be in the way when I want to move the pin in/out when increasing/decreasing weight. Nice gym setup!
Thank you! It really isn't bad at all to change the weight stack weight with the plates in the way. I wasn't paying super close attention and put one weight stack in the way they did in the video with the head plate in the way they did which caused the stickers to have to go in the front of the pin. This just makes seeing the weight a little harder as you have to lean in a bit more to see it around the shroud if that makes sense. Overall I'm really digging it so far and nice to have the flexiblity of movements in your workout
So far far so good. I'm ending the program I was doing so I didn't have a ton of cable movement programmed as my diy setup was a pain to use. I've played with it a lot though and really glad I got it! It's really smooth and nice to have that functionality of a functional trainer without taking up more floor space in the garage.
@@bradsgym1062good to hear and really looking forward to getting my hands on it too. Should be by October 3rd for me. Sold my old half rack and upgraded to a pr4000 and Ares back in August. Gave up all of my cable work for the short term and am stoked for the selectorized lat low row and adding in the functional trainer. Look forward to any future content you release on it.
@@clifflatour4251 I was watching for a REP rack after they teased the Ares and was lucky enough to find my PR5000 in the clear coat on craigslist for a decent price, think the guy bought it and used it a few times tops lol. I think you'll really like it and it'll be nice to add that cable work back into your program. I know the wait sucked and I was impatiently waiting but definitely glad I made the purchase. Nice to add variety to programming to keep things interesting
Regarding delivery: you mentioned forklift. I assume the delivery staff uses their own forklift. So home delivery...truck driver takes it out from vehicle and places items on the ground.
I'm dumb. I really meant was a pallet jack. They just roll it under the pallet and bring it to the back of the truck where the lift was and roll it out. I was home and cleaning up the garage to make room so I helped the driver push both pallets into the garage. I'd think if you weren't home they'd just leave it on the driveway by the garage.
Yea that's a tough one for sure. I do like doing pull downs and I never really programmed low rows before so that wasn't a deal breaker for me but I am glad I went with the ares to have it all built in. I think the Athena would only be cool if you did the plate as it doesn't appear you can use plate storage with a plate loaded athena. A sectorized lat pull down/low row would probalby let you do most things though
Did you set it up by yourself and what was the setup time like? Also, when using the low row, does the banana connector work? It looks like the low row pulleys are further apart than the lat pulldown ones. Curious if attachments like a triangle would work with the low row. Cool video and sweet gym!
I did set it up by myself. Had my 2 and 4 year old "helping for about 30min which just slowed me down a bit. Overall it wasn't hard I didn't think, just time consuming as you have to loosen all the bolts, remove whatever else you had attached, move plates out of the way, etc. I watched the rep how to video and glanced at the instructions and it made it really easy to understand. The low row bar has two attachment points on each end to connect to the low pully's and also has an attachment point in the middle to connect your own attachment if you'd like. I have some the Prime Fitness 4n1 that I like to use and can connect that with the low row bar. I however do not like sitting on the floor as you can't bend your knees and get the bar to pass over them, so I felt the stretch in my hamstrings being a limiting factor vs my back. I saw a guy say put a decline bench in there and sit on that which I'll try to see how it feels. I put an extra carabiner on the low row bar and hooked it to the two front pulleys and sat on my flat bench and that felt good to me. Thanks for the compliment on the gym and video!
I took the day off as I was so excited to get it and start putting it together so cleaned up the garage for a spot to bring it in there. They were more than willing to bring it in the garage for me. I'd guess if I wasn't home they'd just leave it by the garage door.
I believe it did come in a box truck with a gate that went up and down so they could get the pallet out. I'm pretty sure but it's been a while but I don't remember it being an 18wheeler but I could be wrong. Either way they parked at the end of the driveway and I helped push it up the driveway. It's gorilla tape www.homedepot.com/p/Gorilla-30-yd-Black-Duct-Tape-106718/316372144 It stays on well even with a bit of texture my mats have and I'm careful to not drag things across it but my wife and previous workout partner weren't as careful and it's sometimes pull up a bit but it stays surprisingly well and is easy to tear up and put a new section down.
@@bradsgym1062 Thank you for your reply! I live in the country with narrow roads and ditches so I was curious. I have order gym equipment before that came in 18 wheelers so they could not deliver so hearing box truck is a good relief. I appreciate the link for the tape as well
@@ivoryG37 memory shows up on phone today as it was 2 years ago today that it came in. It was a semi truck but a small trailer attached to it. A lot smaller than when I think about a normal 18 wheeler
I haven't maxed out but on heavier pull downs for me on the PR5000 I bought two of the leg rollers ( was pretty cheap after the points you get from buying the ares lol) and use them on my spotter arms. Could use them on the middle posts but I have spotter arms and liked how they felt better on them than on the post. The PR4000 has one leg attachment that goes in the middle. I saw a guy use that on a pr5000 so that might be an option too
I was working from home and took the afternoon off so I could be there to get into the garage. After spending so much the first day of the pre order and waiting months I really wanted to start playing with it. Wouldn't be terrible to unload all the boxes from the driveway, but without a pallet jack I dont think you're going to move those pallets loaded with everything inside still
Hey Brad thanks for the review. Just a quick question I had my Ares delivered a few days ago and I have 2 friends who are mechanically inclined going to set it up for me tomorrow, just wondering how long do you think it will take them to set it up for me approximately? I have the 80 inch PR 5000 power rack. I cleaned everything out of my garage mostly and loosened most of the bolts on the power rack for them, I did not take the equipment out of the boxes because they were numbered so I thought I should just leave them alone? I know you mentioned you did it alone and it was time consuming so just wondering if u could give me a rough estimate with 2 somewhat handy guys.? I am like your 4 yr old son I would just get in the way as I am not a handyman at all my wife is more handy than myself! Lol But I just wanted to give my friends an estimated time frame since they are helping me out for free! Thanx
I'd guess maybe 3ish hours to maybe 4, possibly less if they are quick about it and don't care about making a mess with the boxes and don't have to clean up. The boxes don't really seem to be numbered any any certain order than for maybe quality control to make sure all numbers are in there. If you loosed all the bolts and unpackaged everything I think two mechanically inclined folks could knock it out pretty quick.
Did you have any issue with adjusting the cable to have the 10lbs weight sit flush with the rest of the weights? I bearly screwed in the bolt to the trolley arm but still short about 1/2”
I didn't have any issues with mine thankfully. I know they mentioned something about adjusting that pulley that is housed in what I call the floating pulley that moved up and down as you adjust the trolleys but I didn't have any issues so don't know if that'd fix it or not. I will say if I have some heavy attachment on the front pulley like a curl bar it does pull the cable a it and then lifts up the head plate so if I want to adjust the weight I have to push down on the head plate to get the pin in. I had great luck with REP getting back to me quickly on instagram, maybe worth shooting em a message on there or try calling when they are open. I saw another person post they adjusted it so high that the head plate just sits high enough on the stack that it skips a plate. Guess that'd work too, but my ocd wouldn't like it lol
Possibly. Were they the bolts? I had two extra packages of the big (I think they are the M24 bolts/nuts/washer) bolts when I was done and had two extra bolts besides the ones in the package when I was done. So 10 extra bolts and then 8 extra nuts plus washers
It's a Hoist leg press/hack squat and pretty sure it's the HF-4357. I found it on craigslist for $1,000 and emailed him asking if he was firm on the price or if he had some wiggle room hoping I could snag it for $800, he said he'd take $600 and I was over there as soon as he let me lol. For a garage, I really like it. It's pretty smooth for a roller type setup, 4 stall mats on the plate for hack squat and I can get FULL range of motion and stick some yoga mats under my lower back like the RP guys do and it pumps my quads like nothing else can.
I have a 30" depth and I think it's perfect. I think anything smaller I wouldn't think I had enough room and could go bigger but it'd just take up more room in the garage
@@bradsgym1062 agree. 41” is a waste of space. Ares looks great but how smooth is it? Pulleys, trolleys, overall user experience, compared to commercial functional trainer?
@@stevefridman I am super impressed with how smooth it is, it really is super smooth in my opinion. I haven't been to a commercial gym and used a functional trainer in a long time but from memory I think it's on par.
lol I saw a bunch of people on fb asking about what boxes they'll get and what not. I'm trying to make a review but wanted to give it a bit of time and really test it out some more before putting up a review. Hopefully have one up in a weekish. I will say the cables are buttery smooth and the only thing that sucks like we probably all imagined was any adjustments of the trolleys needs to have all attachments off the front post. So J Cups, safeties, etc need to be removed or adjust depending where you want to move the trolley and if they'd get in the way. So so you benched off the front of the rack with spotter arms, then wanted to do tricep pushdowns then some cable curls off the front trolley you'd either have to set up one high and the other low before setting jcups/spotter arms up or if you wanted to use the same trolley for both pushdowns and curls you'd have to remove the bar, jcups, spotter arms before you a can move that one pulley down. Just takes a little time to think about setup if you want to be super efficient.
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Finally a video on the Ares
I filmed the unboxing and wasn't going to post it but can't believe nobody has posted anything about the Ares yet so figured might as well lol. Hope you get yours soon!
Thanks for doing that. I didn't order until July. But it should be soon now
Nice. This was helpful. Mine is coming tomorrow. I live in a rural area so I have to meet the truck at the mailboxes towards the entrance of our neighborhood. Looks like I’ll have to break down the big box to transport back to the house. Very helpful! Can’t wait to have a cable system
Hopefully you got it all and of i works out!
Finally someone released a video.
Dang! That clear coat's got a Cyberdyne Systems, model 101 vibe something fierce.
Hi, I'm waiting for a review video. If you can tell us whether it's been worth the cost, give some pros/cons, and also demonstrate the exercises and versatility. That would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Sorry I filmed a review like 3 times now, once after a week or two of use but then coop and a few others put out good reviews but forgot a few things I thought they could've mentioned. But to give a good over view and exercise things it gets to be a pretty long video... and wasn't sure if anybody would watch lol.
I do think it is worth it though and really do love having it in the garage. The cables got twisted a bit but I bought some swivel carabiner style clips and really did pretty much solve my twisting problem. It really smooth and super nice to just have the stack vs everything I've had before was plate loaded. Huge time saver. Only con is that I don't really use my strap safties anymore as the trolley on the front would hit them if they were on. I just use my spotter arms inside the rack so I keep the front post pretty much free. Really about the only con besides price but for a home gym where space is an issue, I'm super glad I have it and would buy it again in a heart beat if I had the cash.
Glad to finally see a video, thank you. Please let us know if any foreseeable interferences with any attachments on the uprights with the adjustable pulleys.
The only thing that I found that interfered with the cables were the strap safeties depending where the cable trolleys are. You have to have the trolley under where the safety straps go otherwise they'll hit the cable or have to push the cable out of the way which I just don't feel like would be good for it long term. I just started using my safety spotter arms instead off the middle post but really isn't a big deal to adjust the trolley down when using the safety straps.
Only other thing is if you have any mono lifts you'd have to remove them to put them out to the side if you wanted to use the pull down bar that came with the Ares, otherwise it's so wide it'll hit the mono lifts on pull downs.
Small things that I really aren't a big deal and will just be second nature to your setup once you get used to it.
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Would flip down safeties work better with the cables?
@@markhalstead2386 I guess I don't have the flip down safties and it depends which side they go on if that makes sense. If they can both flip down from the inside of the rack then they would work. My safety straps are the same setup side to side so the one side they work and the other side is where you'd have to have the trolley a little lower. Just something I think you get used to and takes 2 seconds to adjust the trolley really.
Subbed for sure. I'm gonna buy one once my basement is finished. Look forward to more videos on the ares
Thank you! Hopefully make another one about the ares in the next week or so!
Excited to see versatility/ limitations
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for posting. This is the first video I've seen of the Ares - feels like I've been waiting years. Looking forward to seeing your first impressions video. Would be curious how easy it is to change the weight of each stack when you have plate storage attached to the rack. I've got the PR-5000 with plate storage and keep wondering if the plates will be in the way when I want to move the pin in/out when increasing/decreasing weight. Nice gym setup!
Thank you! It really isn't bad at all to change the weight stack weight with the plates in the way. I wasn't paying super close attention and put one weight stack in the way they did in the video with the head plate in the way they did which caused the stickers to have to go in the front of the pin. This just makes seeing the weight a little harder as you have to lean in a bit more to see it around the shroud if that makes sense. Overall I'm really digging it so far and nice to have the flexiblity of movements in your workout
first ares video I have found. waiting for mine still. how do you like it so far?
So far far so good. I'm ending the program I was doing so I didn't have a ton of cable movement programmed as my diy setup was a pain to use. I've played with it a lot though and really glad I got it! It's really smooth and nice to have that functionality of a functional trainer without taking up more floor space in the garage.
@@bradsgym1062good to hear and really looking forward to getting my hands on it too. Should be by October 3rd for me. Sold my old half rack and upgraded to a pr4000 and Ares back in August. Gave up all of my cable work for the short term and am stoked for the selectorized lat low row and adding in the functional trainer. Look forward to any future content you release on it.
@@clifflatour4251 I was watching for a REP rack after they teased the Ares and was lucky enough to find my PR5000 in the clear coat on craigslist for a decent price, think the guy bought it and used it a few times tops lol. I think you'll really like it and it'll be nice to add that cable work back into your program. I know the wait sucked and I was impatiently waiting but definitely glad I made the purchase. Nice to add variety to programming to keep things interesting
Regarding delivery: you mentioned forklift. I assume the delivery staff uses their own forklift. So home delivery...truck driver takes it out from vehicle and places items on the ground.
I'm dumb. I really meant was a pallet jack. They just roll it under the pallet and bring it to the back of the truck where the lift was and roll it out. I was home and cleaning up the garage to make room so I helped the driver push both pallets into the garage. I'd think if you weren't home they'd just leave it on the driveway by the garage.
@@bradsgym1062 thanks. Still deciding on the ares, athena or the new selectorized lat pulldown low roll.
Yea that's a tough one for sure. I do like doing pull downs and I never really programmed low rows before so that wasn't a deal breaker for me but I am glad I went with the ares to have it all built in. I think the Athena would only be cool if you did the plate as it doesn't appear you can use plate storage with a plate loaded athena. A sectorized lat pull down/low row would probalby let you do most things though
How the heck do you get ball stops back on the cables? I think my cables shrunk as I was putting them through the pulleys.
Nice set up.
Thank you!
Which box has the instructions in it? Haha just got mine and want to know what to open first
For me the instructions were in one of the boxes on the long pallet but it's been a while so I'd try one of those first. Wasn't numbered or anything.
Did you set it up by yourself and what was the setup time like? Also, when using the low row, does the banana connector work? It looks like the low row pulleys are further apart than the lat pulldown ones. Curious if attachments like a triangle would work with the low row. Cool video and sweet gym!
I did set it up by myself. Had my 2 and 4 year old "helping for about 30min which just slowed me down a bit. Overall it wasn't hard I didn't think, just time consuming as you have to loosen all the bolts, remove whatever else you had attached, move plates out of the way, etc. I watched the rep how to video and glanced at the instructions and it made it really easy to understand.
The low row bar has two attachment points on each end to connect to the low pully's and also has an attachment point in the middle to connect your own attachment if you'd like. I have some the Prime Fitness 4n1 that I like to use and can connect that with the low row bar. I however do not like sitting on the floor as you can't bend your knees and get the bar to pass over them, so I felt the stretch in my hamstrings being a limiting factor vs my back. I saw a guy say put a decline bench in there and sit on that which I'll try to see how it feels. I put an extra carabiner on the low row bar and hooked it to the two front pulleys and sat on my flat bench and that felt good to me.
Thanks for the compliment on the gym and video!
@@bradsgym1062 I'd like to see a video on the low row set up you just described.
I’d like to see that setup too.
I'm in MN too. Did they deliver inside your garage?
I took the day off as I was so excited to get it and start putting it together so cleaned up the garage for a spot to bring it in there. They were more than willing to bring it in the garage for me. I'd guess if I wasn't home they'd just leave it by the garage door.
@@bradsgym1062 Did it just come on One pallet? and is that the 93 in or the 80" you got?
Did it come in a box truck or an 18 wheeler? Also what kind of tape did you use for your floor mats?
I believe it did come in a box truck with a gate that went up and down so they could get the pallet out. I'm pretty sure but it's been a while but I don't remember it being an 18wheeler but I could be wrong. Either way they parked at the end of the driveway and I helped push it up the driveway.
It's gorilla tape www.homedepot.com/p/Gorilla-30-yd-Black-Duct-Tape-106718/316372144
It stays on well even with a bit of texture my mats have and I'm careful to not drag things across it but my wife and previous workout partner weren't as careful and it's sometimes pull up a bit but it stays surprisingly well and is easy to tear up and put a new section down.
@@bradsgym1062 Thank you for your reply! I live in the country with narrow roads and ditches so I was curious. I have order gym equipment before that came in 18 wheelers so they could not deliver so hearing box truck is a good relief. I appreciate the link for the tape as well
@@ivoryG37 memory shows up on phone today as it was 2 years ago today that it came in. It was a semi truck but a small trailer attached to it. A lot smaller than when I think about a normal 18 wheeler
How is it doing heavy lately pull downs? Looking to see what attachment is best to help hold yourself down whilst doing the pull down
I haven't maxed out but on heavier pull downs for me on the PR5000 I bought two of the leg rollers ( was pretty cheap after the points you get from buying the ares lol) and use them on my spotter arms. Could use them on the middle posts but I have spotter arms and liked how they felt better on them than on the post. The PR4000 has one leg attachment that goes in the middle. I saw a guy use that on a pr5000 so that might be an option too
did they leave this box outside of your house or moved in the garage?
I was working from home and took the afternoon off so I could be there to get into the garage. After spending so much the first day of the pre order and waiting months I really wanted to start playing with it. Wouldn't be terrible to unload all the boxes from the driveway, but without a pallet jack I dont think you're going to move those pallets loaded with everything inside still
@@C3L1CA94 I just ordered probably won't be home so I would have to move every box one by one?
Hey Brad thanks for the review. Just a quick question I had my Ares delivered a few days ago and I have 2 friends who are mechanically inclined going to set it up for me tomorrow, just wondering how long do you think it will take them to set it up for me approximately? I have the 80 inch PR 5000 power rack. I cleaned everything out of my garage mostly and loosened most of the bolts on the power rack for them, I did not take the equipment out of the boxes because they were numbered so I thought I should just leave them alone? I know you mentioned you did it alone and it was time consuming so just wondering if u could give me a rough estimate with 2 somewhat handy guys.? I am like your 4 yr old son I would just get in the way as I am not a handyman at all my wife is more handy than myself! Lol But I just wanted to give my friends an estimated time frame since they are helping me out for free! Thanx
I'd guess maybe 3ish hours to maybe 4, possibly less if they are quick about it and don't care about making a mess with the boxes and don't have to clean up. The boxes don't really seem to be numbered any any certain order than for maybe quality control to make sure all numbers are in there. If you loosed all the bolts and unpackaged everything I think two mechanically
inclined folks could knock it out pretty quick.
I think could maybe be 2 if you had all the boxed unpacked and what not but always nice to tell em longer and it take less time lol
Did you have any issue with adjusting the cable to have the 10lbs weight sit flush with the rest of the weights? I bearly screwed in the bolt to the trolley arm but still short about 1/2”
I didn't have any issues with mine thankfully. I know they mentioned something about adjusting that pulley that is housed in what I call the floating pulley that moved up and down as you adjust the trolleys but I didn't have any issues so don't know if that'd fix it or not. I will say if I have some heavy attachment on the front pulley like a curl bar it does pull the cable a it and then lifts up the head plate so if I want to adjust the weight I have to push down on the head plate to get the pin in.
I had great luck with REP getting back to me quickly on instagram, maybe worth shooting em a message on there or try calling when they are open. I saw another person post they adjusted it so high that the head plate just sits high enough on the stack that it skips a plate. Guess that'd work too, but my ocd wouldn't like it lol
My cable was about an inch to short. I drilled out 4 hockey pucks to use as bottom spacers underneath the weight plates. Worked out great.
Did you get an extra 6 (1)? I got only one box marked 6(1) and another marked 6(2)
Possibly. Were they the bolts? I had two extra packages of the big (I think they are the M24 bolts/nuts/washer) bolts when I was done and had two extra bolts besides the ones in the package when I was done. So 10 extra bolts and then 8 extra nuts plus washers
What leg press/hack squat do you have? And how do you like it?
It's a Hoist leg press/hack squat and pretty sure it's the HF-4357. I found it on craigslist for $1,000 and emailed him asking if he was firm on the price or if he had some wiggle room hoping I could snag it for $800, he said he'd take $600 and I was over there as soon as he let me lol. For a garage, I really like it. It's pretty smooth for a roller type setup, 4 stall mats on the plate for hack squat and I can get FULL range of motion and stick some yoga mats under my lower back like the RP guys do and it pumps my quads like nothing else can.
how long did it take you to build
30” or 41” work depth?
I have a 30" depth and I think it's perfect. I think anything smaller I wouldn't think I had enough room and could go bigger but it'd just take up more room in the garage
@@bradsgym1062 agree. 41” is a waste of space. Ares looks great but how smooth is it? Pulleys, trolleys, overall user experience, compared to commercial functional trainer?
@@stevefridman I am super impressed with how smooth it is, it really is super smooth in my opinion. I haven't been to a commercial gym and used a functional trainer in a long time but from memory I think it's on par.
Do a review of the product. No one cares what the boxes look like when they arrive at your house.
lol I saw a bunch of people on fb asking about what boxes they'll get and what not. I'm trying to make a review but wanted to give it a bit of time and really test it out some more before putting up a review. Hopefully have one up in a weekish. I will say the cables are buttery smooth and the only thing that sucks like we probably all imagined was any adjustments of the trolleys needs to have all attachments off the front post. So J Cups, safeties, etc need to be removed or adjust depending where you want to move the trolley and if they'd get in the way. So so you benched off the front of the rack with spotter arms, then wanted to do tricep pushdowns then some cable curls off the front trolley you'd either have to set up one high and the other low before setting jcups/spotter arms up or if you wanted to use the same trolley for both pushdowns and curls you'd have to remove the bar, jcups, spotter arms before you a can move that one pulley down. Just takes a little time to think about setup if you want to be super efficient.