interesting to see a ported intake where they dont change the actual diameter of the throttle plate. i got a stock body ported on my old car from 55mm to 60mm and bigger plate and it gave a 8hp increase on a 100 wheel hp car xD
When I was a teenager and had no money to upgrade my cars in edition just needing to tinker with something I would remove the throttle body shaft and cut off one side of the shaft horizontally. I would cut off the side that originally held the head of the screws. This side is not threaded. Then I would used countersink screws then cut off the end of the screw making it flush with the half shaft. I would even fill in the countersunk screw Philips slots or hex hole with epoxy that would stay in but I could burn or chip out if I needed to remove the screw. Preferably you only want to remove the part of the shaft that is exposed at half throttle. When a half throttle the throttle plate would be completely smooth with no shaft speed bump.
Mkay, So IF those gains are consistent at running temp and the owner is willing to put the time in to do it themselves then 3 HP is 3 HP, It's better than three less hp...But is it worth the money? Probably not. it might be useful for those trying to keep it stock looking, probably more useful in totalitarian states like California.
The only reason I'm considering having my throttle body ported is to smooth airflow in from my 4.6L 2V's ADTR ziptube and out to my Trick Flow 75mm upper plenum. The slight venturi effect of necking down to the throttle blade will increase flow speed, while porting out to the plenum will increase intake pressure. Hopefully, that'll improve throttle response, something the dyno can't measure, even more than adding the new ziptube and upper plenum did. Adding Trick Flow heads and aftermarket exhaust will add the power I want. I'll need a dyno then.
I'm just throwing in my 2cents but I've been told by other enthusiasts to stick with an 87mm tb for gen 1 and get a 18 intake manifold w/ whatever cold air intake preffered for max power in my gen 1 5.0
also he is likely seeing baby gains cuz the butterfly valve and plate are untouched so its technically still stock. Was told to stick bbk by the same gents and after seeing this I think tht rings true
@@Kyle_gallegherthere are a lot of issues with aftermarket throttle body’s I’m staying oem and porting mine. I have a gen 3 yote the gen 3 intake manifold is definitely the best to use most hp gain n/a the 302 and cobra jet don’t benefit n/a at all if anything u gain less hp
It all adds up for a simple bolt on might be worth it idk. Or maybe just put a bigger throttle body on depending on price i guess. I do all my own port work so definitely be worth it for me.
Interesting. I just did this to my ISF as well as porting the intake. I am hoping to get around 10-15hp increase with both. (ported intake on the ISF has shown 8-12 hp) The TB by itself not worth it but in combination with the inlet maybe. Will find out in a few weeks next dyno test. Thanks for the info. Great channel 💪👍
The hump or convergent duct acts as a ventri. The engines stock throttle body is sized to deliver the engine requirement for CFM. The design uses physics to speed up the incoming airflow right before the throttle blade. This allows for crisp throttle response and moving the airflow at lower RPMs. Do not oversize a throttle body or it will make it a dog down low in the RPMs
It’s going to be basically the same results, the 11-17 throttle bodies get reused for some of the supercharger kits since they’re pretty efficient stock. 😊
Got an 05 Astra h 1.6 z16xep engine. Aside from all the smog emissions deleted out, I just recently done my tb and bored out the intake manifold, I can tell a small difference to throttle response. Got little more kick. But should just do engine conversion really
Combination ported TB and intake with a cam ridiculously wakes up the motor. I did a home built gutted and ported manifold. I gained 1k rpms of power band and 10-15 whp and power didn't fall off at 9k. Well. This was a p13"h22" manifold pro2 cams on a Japanese market F20b swap.
Just remember, this mustang is made for performance, and the throttle body doesn't suck In your 100hp shitbox, it does The mustang might have gotten only 3 hp, an increase of less than 1% Your 100hp shitbox with its terrible throttle body that was designed to be cheap might even gain more than 3hp
To some those numbers don't matter but those that have 2-3 here 10-15there in different parts then it all adds up n it matters...
3-5 hp still helps
I mean weight reduction or working out will be more beneficial lol
3-5hp is within the dyno’s tolerance, so it means nothing
the butt dyno will only notice power increases of 5-10%. you'd need 23-46 more horsepower before youd notice it without a dyno
interesting to see a ported intake where they dont change the actual diameter of the throttle plate. i got a stock body ported on my old car from 55mm to 60mm and bigger plate and it gave a 8hp increase on a 100 wheel hp car xD
When I was a teenager and had no money to upgrade my cars in edition just needing to tinker with something I would remove the throttle body shaft and cut off one side of the shaft horizontally. I would cut off the side that originally held the head of the screws. This side is not threaded. Then I would used countersink screws then cut off the end of the screw making it flush with the half shaft. I would even fill in the countersunk screw Philips slots or hex hole with epoxy that would stay in but I could burn or chip out if I needed to remove the screw.
Preferably you only want to remove the part of the shaft that is exposed at half throttle. When a half throttle the throttle plate would be completely smooth with no shaft speed bump.
Would be interested to see if a 85mm throttle made any difference, it could just be that the car doesn’t need any more cfm
Mkay, So IF those gains are consistent at running temp and the owner is willing to put the time in to do it themselves then 3 HP is 3 HP, It's better than three less hp...But is it worth the money? Probably not. it might be useful for those trying to keep it stock looking, probably more useful in totalitarian states like California.
Yep, they suck dingaling..lol But God blessed Texas..😊
The only reason I'm considering having my throttle body ported is to smooth airflow in from my 4.6L 2V's ADTR ziptube and out to my Trick Flow 75mm upper plenum. The slight venturi effect of necking down to the throttle blade will increase flow speed, while porting out to the plenum will increase intake pressure. Hopefully, that'll improve throttle response, something the dyno can't measure, even more than adding the new ziptube and upper plenum did.
Adding Trick Flow heads and aftermarket exhaust will add the power I want. I'll need a dyno then.
I'm just throwing in my 2cents but I've been told by other enthusiasts to stick with an 87mm tb for gen 1 and get a 18 intake manifold w/ whatever cold air intake preffered for max power in my gen 1 5.0
also he is likely seeing baby gains cuz the butterfly valve and plate are untouched so its technically still stock. Was told to stick bbk by the same gents and after seeing this I think tht rings true
@@Kyle_gallegherthere are a lot of issues with aftermarket throttle body’s I’m staying oem and porting mine. I have a gen 3 yote the gen 3 intake manifold is definitely the best to use most hp gain n/a the 302 and cobra jet don’t benefit n/a at all if anything u gain less hp
Would the gains be greater as the engine optimizes its tune for the improved airflow?
I have a 6.2 Escalade with a ls3 ported by chuy TB & manifold
It all adds up for a simple bolt on might be worth it idk. Or maybe just put a bigger throttle body on depending on price i guess. I do all my own port work so definitely be worth it for me.
Good video definitely not worth it glad I didn’t waste money
If you tune it to take advantage of what you done.... You get more power...
If you do lots of mods at once and then tune it.... You'll add up a lot.
And time
Is only worth it with supporting mods like a turbo. The turbo will pull more air in which you’ll NEED the ported throttle body 🤓
It ain't tricking if you got it
@@-_-RazielI’ve built wiring harnesses for aftermarket ECUs and tune my engines. No the fuck it doesn’t lmao
Interesting. I just did this to my ISF as well as porting the intake. I am hoping to get around 10-15hp increase with both. (ported intake on the ISF has shown 8-12 hp)
The TB by itself not worth it but in combination with the inlet maybe. Will find out in a few weeks next dyno test.
Thanks for the info. Great channel 💪👍
Exactly
So how did it go?
What does CFM mean?
Thanks
what if i installed this on a gen 2 with a 2018 manifold
Now you gotta do TB coolant bypass mod and dyno stet it. I have seen on some ls1 cars 6hp gain.
That wouldn’t apply to these coyotes because they don’t run coolant through the throttle body
I would like this throttle body, on my Crown Victoria (1998) do you have this available?
Get the 78mm BBK tb, easy fit.. I can sell you a new Cai for your car too..
Can I install two on my truck stacked to get more? Asking for a friend!
The hump or convergent duct acts as a ventri. The engines stock throttle body is sized to deliver the engine requirement for CFM. The design uses physics to speed up the incoming airflow right before the throttle blade. This allows for crisp throttle response and moving the airflow at lower RPMs. Do not oversize a throttle body or it will make it a dog down low in the RPMs
This is not entirely true.
Will I did it for my gen 2 and supercharger it works but I run out of gas quicker 😢 in my f150 1000hp
What about a 14 S197 track pack
It’s going to be basically the same results, the 11-17 throttle bodies get reused for some of the supercharger kits since they’re pretty efficient stock. 😊
You get those differences between runs any way's. The NA engine has max its power input. Now put that on a FI car and your talking gains.
Its not worth doing on a N/A car with stock cams and stock cast heads
Imagine thinking “I know about cars” and posting this shit
Got an 05 Astra h 1.6 z16xep engine. Aside from all the smog emissions deleted out, I just recently done my tb and bored out the intake manifold, I can tell a small difference to throttle response. Got little more kick. But should just do engine conversion really
Combination ported TB and intake with a cam ridiculously wakes up the motor. I did a home built gutted and ported manifold. I gained 1k rpms of power band and 10-15 whp and power didn't fall off at 9k. Well. This was a p13"h22" manifold pro2 cams on a Japanese market F20b swap.
That's well within the margin of error...
Would that throttle body fit on a 2017 v6
No lol
It fits if you v8 swap it first
Lol looks like no gains, probably just a difference in oil temp/viscosity. 😂
The air for sure flows better so it would increase power
those 24 mustangs are heavy
Its worth it if you port your own
Just remember, this mustang is made for performance, and the throttle body doesn't suck
In your 100hp shitbox, it does
The mustang might have gotten only 3 hp, an increase of less than 1%
Your 100hp shitbox with its terrible throttle body that was designed to be cheap might even gain more than 3hp
When every thousand of a second counts..lol I say go for it tho, if you do it yourself.. ;)
its just dyno error. the only reason to be porting anything on the intake if you have FI
If you have what?
Force induction
Looks like 99.8% snake oil