KIOTI CK series...PROS and CONS
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- This video covers my personal pros and cons regarding the CK series cab tractor. I would like to hear some feed back from other Kioti owners with their own pros and cons. This tractor has been great for me since I purchased it almost 1 year ago. None of the cons are deal breakers for me. Theres always going to be little things you realize you like or don't like with anything you own. Or maybe even people your around on a regular basis. I hope this video is helpful for you and thanks for watching!
Cab has way more pros than cons. In climates with extreme temperatures and weather, the heater or AC is amazing in a cab. I use my Kioti CK27 to snowblow in the winter in Wyoming and its been great. It's the perfect size to keep a 500' driveway clear and fit in the barn to clear out the stalls as well as the garden to till. This thing is so useful and an excellent value.
the jerky top link comes in handy clearing a box blade.
I took a paint pen an painted my bucket indicator rod bright yellow. That helps a bit, especially in bad weather.
If the cup holder is the biggest flaw you have a good tractor. I flipped 3 tractors in my life, now I have a no alcohol rule. The only thing I would change is put independent brakes on the left side.
I agree . It has been a great tractor so far. I don't ever drink on the tractor, the beer goes flat in 5 minutes. Most of the beer stuff is just a bit for the Keystone girl. I do enjoy a cold Keystone once and a while though. Thanks for the comment!
Yeah I can deal with the cup holder, and I would definitely prefer the brake to be on the left.
Still enjoying my tractor taks a while to get to know it
Very Good. Ya it does take a while to get fully adjusted and comfortable with it. Thanks for the comment!
Just purchased ours 5 weeks ago w/out cab to clean up 10 or so heavily wooded acres of mountain land. Had the rear tires loaded and ride is considerably smoother and gives me that extra weight. Love it so far and the quick attach is a nice feature as is the backhoe drive off/on frame. Thanks for the video and will follow
Sounds like you have a nice setup. I would love to get the backhoe. I'm between that or just finding a decent used mini. good luck with the property. thanks for the comment
Very good review and like your shop with the welding Equipment
Nice 🏆 great presentation 👍 👏 👴🚜🐕😎
love your channel love your tractor most of all love your beer assistant! I gots to get me one of them
Ha ha thanks. Ya shes pretty cool. Im hoping to have another video up this weekend. Thanks for watching!
I have the same model. I don't cut brush. For my needs, clearing timber, snow removal, general property maintenance, this tractor is perfect. We have a great dealer here in N. Idaho. Jordan's tractors sales and service. Highly recommended.
Glad to hear! Its amazing how much the smaller motor can handle. Thanks for the comment and for watching.
On the bucket level indicator, cut the end of the pipe at an angle so you can see the rod before it gets to the end of the pipe.
Thats a great idea. Im going to do that. I was using the bucket to plow snow the past week and it was getting annoying every time i leveled the bucket. Thanks for the comment.
Absolutely love my 2610
Me too! They’re great tractors
Thanks for the vid. On the lift arms jerking while raising...not normal. the only times I've experienced that is when the hyd fluid was low. Either low or there is a restriction between the pump and the arms? Don't let the dealer blow it of as "huh, never seen that before" Make them fix it before you are out of warranty. 🤠👍🍻
I know its good on fluid, but I will run it by the dealer again. Seems like not everyone is having this problem. So I think you might be right on me having an actual issue with the tractor. Thanks for the input.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC any luck on this? I just got mine delivered yesterday and noticed its jerky only when lifting like you showed.
If you put your A/C on and then turn the temperature to desired comfort level , windows don’t tend to fog up.
Yes, someone mentioned that in the comments a while back and i started doing it. It works awesome. Thanks for the suggestion.
The jerky 3 pt hitch is due to the type of valve they use. It's either on or off. That's your "problem. " it's on every Kioti.
Yaa that makes sense. Ive just gotten used to it. Thanks for the info and thanks for watching.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC you helped sell me on Kioti. I'll be copying all your mods. I'd recommend a LED light on each side for 360 light. Also, AMBOTHER sells multi function 5 different LED pods. White, yellow, white/yellow, white strobe, yellow strobe, and white alt yellow strobe. They hold up great.
I'd also recommend some old Nextel i355s for farm communication. Digital walkie talkies for cheap and super rugged.
Nice 1 year review on your CK. I have the 3510 with Cab. Overall very satisfied with mine after 1 year. I agree with your critique points. I have noticed the fogging problem in mine. I have run it with AC on to 'dry out' the air in the cab with success. I'll try changing my vent positions to see if better results. Like you, I had an open station JD and took some adjustment to the cab reducing my visibility. Now I am familiar and have learned how to position the bucket and attach points and where to look. Not a big deal anymore and the cab is simply awesome to have if you live in 4 seasons. Make sure you keep your radiator and screens clean. I was brush hogging one day and they got caked over and my AC couldn't keep the cab cool. After cleaning them out AC returned to normal. The cab work lights are poor (35w halogen) and I just ordered LEDs units to replace. I've come to really appreciate all the standard capabilities and features the Kioti comes with compared to JD. Also, the specs are that much better. The 3E and R series Deeres can only lift 1100-1300. Kioti CK's are good for 1800. 3 pt lift better. Kioti is heavier than JD. I don't understand why JD doesn't at least match these specs by now. I really liked my previous JD but when time to upgrade to a cab the JD was at a minimum $10K more and many options like rear remotes not included. Just can't justify. Thanks again for review. I'll put one of my own up eventually and show what I have done with it. Happy New Year!
sounds like were have very similar situations with our tractor purchases. I appreciate the feedback. I am starting the led upgrade video tomorrow. I should have it uploaded hopefully next Friday. going to replace the front and back work lights for now. I need to order replacement headlights too. thanks for watching.
Curious how cab noise is in your CK 3510. Can you comfortably use the phone while running the tractor?
Love my 3510. Had an open station Blue tractor that was fantastic. Felt a lot more stable than cab tractor . Until I got 2.5 wheel spacers. I Never thought it would have made that much of a difference. But it does. Third function remote was a must also. Great review and point on .
Good idea with the wheel spacers. Thanks for the comment Tim!
Agreed I test drove my 2610se before loaded tires and spacers and it bounced all over, huge difference with wheel spacers and loaded tires.
This is awesome 👍 I watch and enjoy your video's. Can't wait to see the upgraded lights and blue tooth radio selection. I'm going this week to see the dealers in my area about this exact tractor.
I always look forward to your comments. Hopefully they have one in stock for you. The plan is to upgrade the lights next weekend and ill have the video uploaded shortly after.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC yes I am not ready for the it just yet. I am building a house and it will be ready in spring. So hoping to have it for spring. Least by then I will know everything bout this CK. Plus all the mods I need to do, thanks to you letting us know what it's lacking.
Plus nice to know you have owned other tractors so you do have something to compare it to.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC so I'm on a waiting list :( but hoping for spring when I will need it. Oh liked your FB page , noticed your hat and the plasma table bad ass signs you make.
@@spraggerm nice! Hopefully the timing works out for you. Seems like the Kioti is really gaining traction and getting more attention. Thanks for the like on the FB page. Just something i enjoy doing on the side for extra money.
I live in northeast Iowa. We do not have any Kioti dealers near me. Other than on you tube, I have never seen one of these tractors. I like what I see about these tractors. I ended up going with a Kubota. I have been very happy with the Kubota. I feel I would be happy with just about any tractor these days.
Good review Kyle. the only thing that I don't like about my Kubota is that it doesn't come with a Keystone girl. Thank God I already had one before I bought the tractor. that could have been a deal breaker.
Yaaa those keystone girls are pretty nice to have around. Kubota is a very nice tractor. Thanks for the comment !
Good job on video. Looks like there's lots of pro with the beer lady. 😉
Ya shes pretty cool.
Very happy with my 2610 i bought 2 yrs ago
They are nice tractors!
Great video , I own two Kioti's NX6010 HST and a CS2210 HST . Heavy built tractors and price is right .
Thanks! Glad you liked it. I agree, they are well built for the price.
Cut the outer tube at an angle so as the inner rod comes up to level you can see it (v notch)
That’s exactly what i ended up doing. Another viewer made that same suggestion. Great idea. I have a video of it called easy upgrades. Thanks for the comment Jimmy!
Just found your channel….nice videos….I will be purchasing aCK4010SEHST Cab in the next few weeks, and you have given me some great ideas…..keep up the good work!!
Thanks. Glad your enjoying the channel. congrats on that tractor. You'll be able to do anything with that HP. Thanks for watching!
Curious how cab noise is in your CK4010. Can you comfortably use the phone while running the tractor?
Yes no issues using a cell phone comfortably
I put 3 inch spacers in the back tires from Bora-Bora wheel spacers it rides so much better I have a back blade for mine why doesn't jerk you bring it up same TractorI have a back blade for mine why doesn't jerk you bring it up same Tractor
My dealer where I live in Canada trying to get a shop manual for a year couldn't even get a hat or jacket
wider wheelbase is always nice to have. I think a hat and shirt should automatically be included in a. tractor purchase. I didn't get anything either. Thanks for the comment.
Good Video I am thinking of up grading from a CS series to a CK just for the cab feature
the Cab is definitely a nice feature. I think the CK series is the perfect size for almost any project. Thanks for watching
Cut the outer leveling tube at a 45 degree angle
Thanks. Another subscriber recently told me that. I just included that in a video that's going to post this Thursday. Finishing up the editing now. Thanks for the suggestion. It works perfectly.
Just found you channel, you got some cool shit, proud of you.
Thanks Don. I appreciate that. Just got it started a couple months ago. We’ll see what happens with it. Hope everything is good with you and the family.
I added ballast to my rear tires and that improved the ride considerably
I never thought about doing that. Thats a good idea. Did it seem rough before you added ballast or is it just me?
@@SpicerDesignsLLC Yes it was very “bouncy” while carrying anything in the bucket until I added the ballast. The added weight could cause more rutting of your yard though
I finish mow a large area at my property that is pretty rough. I dropped the air pressure below spec and it helped considerably. I didn't want the extra weight to keep from rutting things up.
I'm going to give that a try.
I have a ck3510se cab model and found that ballasting the rear tires is almost a necessity if you do any fair amount of heavy loader work. I have been able to lift the rear end up with ballast tires and box blade on the back. You want it for stability.
Appreciate your comments on cab noise being minimal. Is it fair to say you can comfortably talk on the phone and or listen to radio while running the tractor?
I wouldnt say its comfortable but its doe able. I would say an earpiece would be better than using the bluetooth speaker but ive still used it on occasion.
I have my own complaints with kioti but the fuel tank and size I actually like. The DK is on the side and they had issues with splitting and being damaged when brush hogging. I put 3 light bars on my kioti 2610. Kioti also includes the steering in gpm hydraulic flow, it's really 60% of advertised. And yeah the 3 point is Jerky, I had to fine tune mine w lever under seat. I also have an open station which I like and stand up to hook up to forks and grapple
I messed with the adjustment but its only slowed it on the way down. was still jerky going up. Thanks for the comment
Depends which JD you get when it comes to the 3 speed hydro. My JD 3039R has a 3 speed hydro. I believe most of the economy series has just a 2 speed.
Good luck in the Kioti. I considered one but the dealer network here in southern Indiana is really lacking. (1 in my area and it's 1 1/2 hr drive.
3039 is a nice tractor. Your right about the Kioti dealers. Theyre not as abundant as john deere. It came down to cost for me. Comparable tractor in a deer was out of my price range. Thanks for the comment and for watching.
What type of mower are you running out back and what is the width of that mower? Thanking you in advanced!
I just run a 5’ brush hog on the kioti.
Hi, I know this video is a little older, but I was also experiencing a jerking/chattering problem with my 3 point hitch on a 2017 CK2610 that ive had since new. Just this year I figured out it was the way I was lifting the hitch. For whatever reason, if I just take the 3 point lever selector and move it directly to the spot I want, it does not jerk at all. If you want it all the way up, just pull the lever all the way to that position. It's almost like it has pre-designed spots in the height range selection. Try it out, let me know if it works for you.
I know what your talking about. If you move it quick it will move smooth. They told me it just has a high flow rate. Its not that big of a deal though. Thanks for the comment!
Quality
I have a ck2610 with 270hrs it's a little under powered for mowing my grass and stability was really bad till I put 6in wheel spacers on. Yes the tires are filled with fluid. I do love the lift capacity of the front end loader. I use the tractor for cleaning up tree jobs I do. Been thinking about a stump grinder and chipper for it.
Id be curious on how that motor handles the chipper and stump grinder. Im going to be fabricating a stump bucket for mine soon from a blank quick attach plate. I have about 50 6’ pine trees to relocate. Thanks for the comment!
@@SpicerDesignsLLC if I could show pictures of what I have moved with the tractor. It has surprised me. I've been thinking about putting a turbo on it to increase the hp a little.
@@crazyfarmer2564 thats an interesting idea. Id like to get so me more info on that if you look into it.
Have you seen the video on how to turn up your 25hr to the 35hr? It’s the same motor in both and also the 40. You can get up to the same horse power (35) with a simple fuel turn up. Saw the video on UTube today.
I used to plow snow with an open station Farmall C. I bought this one because I wanted a cab with heat. I don't care about A/C, I only use it in winter.
Re: fuel capacity How many hours does it take you to brush hog the 7 acre field? I get 12 hours out of a tank (7 US gal.) with a 2012 CK27hst plowing snow. I used to get only ten then I did some exhaust work to it. Now I get 12.
Mine is chained up on all 4 corners. I run 20 lbs air in the loaded rears and 35 lbs in the front. My ride is brutal thanks to the chains. I think your rears are too hard.
All cab tractors fog up. Turn your ac on and have your temp setting to hot. You get the heat and it pulls the humidity out.
Thanks for the pointer. Because my trick didnt work too well last night when i was plowing. Thanks
bucket level indicator .... do not cut the rod just mark it with a piece of tape
I did that at first and it eventually ripped it up. I have a couple ideas. thanks for the comment
@@SpicerDesignsLLCI Didn’t want to cut mine so after trying the tape and having it get ripped up as well, I painted a stripe blue for loader and red for pallet forks. Some of the paint got scrapped off but is still very visible almost two years later.
You should have mentioned linked pedal.. 👍
The linked pedal is a nice feature for the Kioti. I personally don't use it. I prefer to set the rpm and leave it there so I didn't include it on my personal pros and cons. I did mention it in the overview video though. Thanks for the comment!
Great video ! Have a question - Have a 2020 CK35SEHST - with 205 hours of trouble free problems - Great tractor - But the DK5310HST Cab cam in yesterday that I put on order a year ago... Still going back and forth if I want to make the deal as in I love my 3510 open station and not sure if I'll love the cab the same - Have 16 acres in NC. Ok question --- I have a hydraulic Top link such as you on my open station - favorite add on - When hooking up implements and adjusting the top link on my open station, I can reach across the top and feather it in and out as needed--- How do you adjust your top link when hooking up implements with the cab ? Obviously having 2 people its a no brainer but , often times my wifes doing other chores .... am I missing a simple solution as Ive never owned a Cab tractor. thanks for any input.
I have always adjusted it from inside the cab. But by the way your describing it, sounds like you don't have a quick hitch. I can usually back up and grab the implement and reach out the back window and flip the locking levers on the quick hitch without getting out of the tractor. DK is a nice tractor. I personally like the CK for me because its easier on the lawn when im doing work close to the house. Next time I get the tractor out ill see if I can reach in with the back window open to reach the top link lever.
How tall of a garage door do you need to be able to pull that into your shop? Thanks
You need an eight foot door. I have another video on the dimensions of the tractor too. Thanks for watching!
Hope you have better luck with yours than I do with mine
you talking the dealer or tractor itself?
@@SpicerDesignsLLC Tractor itself or in that rod don’t worry 😉 Mine broke off first week ahead
Want to get 1000 hours it’s over the tractors pretty much junk Region system will need to be replaced that’s $5000
I couldn’t agree more about the visibility. I had a open station ck2510 and it was a lot easier to see when doing loader work, but I wouldn’t give up the cab now. I’ve been looking for a way to upgrade the cup holder as well, I look forward to seeing what you do. What are you using to plow snow? I just put a 78’’ HLA snow blade on mine and it’s awesome. Next upgrade I need is loaded tires.
I agree, i wouldnt give up the cab either now that ive had it. Snow plow i need to figure out still. I installed the 3 function specifically for a plow but im having trouble finding one. I think im going to get through this winter with the bucket and build one next year with a poly cutting edge. I can use the plasma table to build the bracketing and ill pick up a blank quick attach plate and a used plow blade. Thanks for watching
I have a 3510 cab. I used a length of pvc pipe for my cup holders
How tall is that garage door?
8’ door
Enjoyed your video, very informative, so would you rather have a open station, or a cab, if you really had to make a choice. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it. With my long driveway and the cold winters im glad i have the cab. Its really nice to have on windy days too. Cab is pretty nice to have. Thanks for watching.
Turn your ac on and it won’t fog up.
Someone else mentioned that a while back. Ive been doing that and it works great. Thanks for the suggestion!
Great job on the videos, just found and subscribed to your channel. I know it’s in a couple videos could you do a little bit more indepth on inside the cab with noise etc at working rpm? It seems quieter than a JD 1025 cab I’ve been in. Thanks👍. Really looking at the Kioti line.
Thank you. Yes a can do that for you. I was trying to think of some ideas today to really test the sound deadening of the cab. Ill try to put together a video for you in the next week or two. Thanks for watching!
I like the kioti tractors I’m thinking about getting one. There is video out there on TH-cam about the tree point doing the same thing. The guy got rid of the tractor but I think it got fixed I can’t remember what the fix was try and find it on TH-cam. Good luck and tractor looks nice.
They are nice tractors. As far as the 3 point, the dealer didnt have an answer so im curious to see what the fix is. Its not a horrible problem. It is manageable, but it shouldnt do that. Thanks for the comment and for watching.
Great Vid! Well edited and produced! I've been considering a CK35 HST Cab, do you ever wish you went to the 35 or do you still feel the 26 has plenty of power? Thanks!
Thanks. I appreciate that. Its always nice to have the extra power for sure. At the time when I bought mine there were no 3510’s available. They had the 2610 on the lot. Dealer convinced me i would have no issues with what I intended to use it for and i havent yet. It has plenty of power and no diesel emissions or DEF. If you have a hilly lot i would recommend the 35. Hope that helps.
Just run the fan and not the heat thru the heater( turn the water off to the heater)it will not fog up
Not sure what you mean. Another guy suggested running the heat with AC on. Works great. Thanks for the comment.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC I run a small tractor in the sub zero weather that always fogged up until I shut the hot water off on the heater and just use the fan to circulate the air works like a champ
good review i have just received a nx6020 which i am still getting familiar with was really looking forward to the rear lift control but in australia kioti told me they are not avalible because of safety regulations would you mind sending some pics so i can make something up as they also wont sell me the part
Ya i can do that for you. I might be able to find a parts list in the manual too i can send. Just email me so i have your info. Spicerdesignsllc@gmail.com
i see your your tractor has a Ronson sticker on it where you from i just bought one from Ronson in Lowell indiana
Im in the Valpo area now. I grew up in Lowell.
What size engine?
Its a 25hp. just under the tier 4 emissions, so no DEF fluid. I have an overview video too that give all the specs on the CK. Thanks for watching!
@@SpicerDesignsLLC Thanks
What was the criteria as to why you went with hydrostatic versus gears? I’m debating.
Its just way easier and faster to maneuver the tractor. Especially doing loader work. From my experience a manual trans vs the hydro almost doubles the time of certain tasks. Thanks for the comment. Hope that helps. Hopefully some other people can give you some input too
I love my ck2610hst too. Great video. Better if you were mic'd
Thanks for watching. I will look into that. Still getting used to all the cameras and editing. The goal is for the video qualities to get better as i progress. I just got a drone so that should improve the videos a bit.
I use to run heavy equipment and the windows fogging up was always a problem but to solve your problem of fogged up windows run the air conditioner with the heat on problem solved
someone else had mentioned that. I tried it the other day and it seemed to work. thanks for info and for watching
seems like air in the 3 point?
Ya im not sure. I might just have to take it in.
is that a std height garage door?
Its an 8' door. Top of the cab is 91". Heres an overview video I included the dimensions of the tractor in. Thanks
th-cam.com/video/GZEMyNhXo84/w-d-xo.html
How much does the cab add to the price?
Dont quote me but I believe its somewhere in the 8K range. Might want to check with your dealer to be sure.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC That is what the cab cost me in 2012 in Canada.
Did your dealer understand that you’d use the tractor for mowing a 7 acre field?
What worries me about the 1000-3000 series JD tractors is their all too small for their HP. All brands have these issues.
The old Ford Red Belly Tractors had this issue. The N series tractors ranged from 20 -30hp. After the 600-800 series started the HP jumped but the weight did change that much. Many an old time farmer will tell you horror stories about operating them.
The dealer was aware of what my intentions were with the tractor. For me personally, the tractor size, weight and hp fit my needs of what i intend to use it for. All the manufacturers seem to have pretty comparable design with the sub compact and compact tractors.
What is the height of the cab on the CK?
I cant remember off hand but it will fit in an 8’ door. I have another video where i talk about all the dimensions.
Jerky 3 point hitch ? Precise loading ?
Are you asking something?
Can the cab be purchased after already owning this tractor.
No thats a factory cab.
Check your hydraulic fluid level......and cup holders are for your empties 😂
Any leak down on the loader ?
When its off it will settle. Ive noticed if i have a lot of weight on the forks it will starts to leak down. Ill have to bump it up every once in a while.
@SpicerDesignsLLC any point an asking the dealership about seeing older tractors don't do it an yep sounds like what mine does
@SpicerDesignsLLC running mine will lower the dealership wants to look at it I guess sounds like a common issue with kioti
@@Patriot-pq1ku hmm ill have to ask them about it. Its not very noticeable on mine unless its a heavy load on the forks
They are replacing the control valve assembly they Said it's not the loader
Brother, you lost me at keystone.
Ahh you cant win em all. Its basically a coors.
My Ck3510SE is junk. Most horrible purchase I have ever made.
Sorry to hear that. What kind of issues have you had with it
Terrible audio
Well it was my 3rd or 4th video id ever made. Ignorant comment
You don't know squat about tractors.
You dont know squat about what i know. What an ignorant comment.