I was incredibly happy with my CK3510SE when I bought it in October of 2020 due the price vs features of the SE and stats.. Now 130 hrs I have had so many issues with it that I can't be more disappointed. Been back to the dealer 5 times. Was delivered with 3 large dents in rear fender that was returned so the dealer could pound them out. This will lead to rust down the road due to the powercoat chipping, linked pedal failed, rear tire came off the rim and rimguard ran all over my lawn, a couple weeks later the front tire came off the rim, the seat safety failed twice, once where the dealer just bypassed the safety and gave it back to me without the safety feature, grapple 3rd function electrical failed two different times, grapple hose was routed so it dragged on the ground, the floor mat curls up in colder temps, the gas tank is horrible to fill, the grill guard is extreameily hard to pull the pins, the ROP pins would not engage without the use of a hammer, the powercaot is pealing off the link arms, brushhog was delivered with a safety chain, pins holding the drawbar did not have linch pins in them, rusting fasteners I had to change out, tossing F26/1669 error codes and the entire seat safety ($1700) had to be repalced, on and on. I'm over my limit of frustration.
Hey Charles you have been run throug the ringer ! The last 22 months has been a terrible time to buy a Tractor or other types of machinery. "They got ONE Answer " for Everything that's fouled up for the Consumer, the "19" thing.The main problem is these "Hot cakes" have been flying of the shelves with 25% of the workforce on furlow or sabbatical riding the "Governments Free Handouts", and not going to work doing their JOB! With all this "free money" floating around this caused a MAJOR rush on these small tractors, Aka==record sales==problems. Hope you get it ALL ironed out .
Not saying this isn’t true. But people with money are buying rural plots of land and outfitting them with all nice equipment and amenities… so with that plus people who have had said land chores are also replacing used worn stuff. Plus shipping things have created this chaos. It’s more than some waiter server fast food person lol. Idk many people on said gov hand outs crap that go drop 20000 on a tractor … usually it’s a car bike tv lol. But I’ve been wrong on some things before.
Hey, Charles. Frankly, a lot of these issues sound dealer related, and some of them sound like normal operational hazard (like the tire pressure getting low enough to blow the tire off the bead). Some of them, however, are definitely issues. I think the seat switch is ridiculous, but the powers at be believe they know better and should have us deal with the headaches of safety switches. The good news is that Kioti has redesigned the switch already has come out with a fix that can be done at any dealer. Kioti (Daedong) is one of the few brands sold in the U.S. that actually make their own tractors. When engineering failures like this happen they tend to come up with a fix very quickly compared to brands that repaint someone elses tractor and have to go up the food chain to get fixes done. Hopefully your dealer puts in the effort to get things working better for you and you've got smooth sailing from here.
I am surprised you have had that many issues with your tractor 🚜. They are very good machines, but it seems like there is a problem with final assembly at the dealer since 2019. It is very discouraging and can change your future decisions, but I have to say that my Kioti is great. I bought it in 2017, just very minor things since then.
I've owned a 2017 CK2610 since new. What I didn't realize was the engine is essentially the same as the 35hp, minus the emissions. Only had to turn up the fuel pressure on my CK2610 to make it the 35hp model with no emissions! It is night and day because the hydrostatic transmission was eating up the power. Not anymore! Would love to have a cab model eventually though.
@@johnthree1611 Nice machine. The motor is probably the same. There are a few good videos on how to turn up the power, but it will most likely void your warranty.
Hey Mr. Nathan ,that was a Very good comparison of the contrasting many variants. Almost thought l would of had to remind you of your product. The 35-40hp CK10SE series in the 12×12 shuttle really has it going on, these are my first pick if l was looking for a full featured, all most "luxury liner" &"true small tractor". For the price & features these Rigs are quite grand! The competitors are eather more expensive or are too striped down by comparison. The only two things left to quandry are Dealer-support & the Warranty. I have heard horror stories about both concerning this brand. The nearest Kioti dealer is 45 miles away from me. Where as my Kubota & Massey-Ferguson dealers are Just 11 &10 miles away, with good to excellent support from the both so far in the last 5 years--- no problems. Thank you for the great Video Sir & happy safe tractoring .
Hey, Donald. You make a very good point, but I only have the CK models here in stock in the HST configuration. Once I get the shuttle models I plan on doing another!
The common rail 35hp CRDI has about the same fuel consumption as the 25hp DI engine. It's quieter, less smoky on start, and starts MUCH easier in the cold. The downside is the emissions and whatever complications come with it (we haven't seen much issue honestly) and the cost.
I was there yesterday and I guess prices went up? But salesman was polite and honest and owner was nice and knowledgeable. Pleasant experience with them. So the se isn’t just a cab model. Good to know. I enjoyed your video. Maybe I miss understood yesterday. I’m debating on ck2610, ck3510, ck3510se. Possibly dk4210se if funding allows lol. But glad your dealership is doing well Kioti dealers by me well one is switching to mahindra and the other really sells larger case farm all tractors. Anyway thanks for the video and I appreciate the 2 gentleman I spoke to yesterday I was there for a while asking a lot of questions. Some where probably dumb but they did their best to explain. Thank you.
Thanks for stopping by! That's the issue with making these videos! Pricing changes so frequently now I have a hard time but I still want to give people an idea where they start. There's also two ways to buy-a rebate and a 0% finance, so possibly one is priced without the rebate and it looks higher? Either way, I encourage you to compare it to all the competition. Kioti is regularly priced well under the competition when compared against its competitive models.
@@kentonequipment4687 Up here in Ontario, Canada I found that Kioti was $10,000.oo less that Kubota with the same accessories. I think you can figure out what I bought. Now this was 10 years ago, so I can't attest to what they are worth today. I put 10 grand down and financed the rest over 5 years. Got front mount snow blower and a cab for 31Gs. I think I did alright. Still have it and just turned 1074 hours. That is a CK27hst. If I get another one it will be a shuttle shift. A good little tractor and it doesn't get stuck as badly as my Farmall C did.
@@swamprat69er That's a good model. If you ever replace it consider a HST in a higher HP. They don't suck the life out of the engine nearly as badly as that model did.
looked at the Kabota L2501 and the price was insane..I got the actual quote today..I thought the 23,400 was OTD..Nope it was 27,265..Thats HST, quick attach bucket, r4 tires filled with Tax and fees and insurance payments around 454 a month..A bit much I think for around the house. Think I'm gonna look at this Kioti model and Mahindra and do a price compare I was expecting the Kabota to be closer.
I bought a cab ch4010se. It was much less expensive than a kubota or Deere. I got a tiller, grapple, rake, forks, bucket for less than the similar bare Kubota
I'm still trying to get them in stock! I plan on it. The gear version differences are mainly the same, except obviously the transmission and the things to do with it. The standard CK is a 9X3 dual stage clutch (live power) with a synchronizer between 2nd and reverse gear. The SE gets a true 12×12 shuttle shift with a push button independent PTO.
Anyone who offers 0% prices it in their sale numbers. One of my father-in-law's best quotes is- if you get something for free, you're the product. At least Kioti is honest enough to give the money back in the event you don't use the 0% financing.
Yes, all the CK26 units are a 100ci 3 cylinder tuned to just under 25hp with mechanical injection. It used to be Kioti's 30hp engine in the CK30, but like many other manufacturers they detuned it slightly to have an option that stays under emissions control regulations. It really shines in the market as it's one of the largest/heaviest models that doesn't have any sort of computer/emissions engine.
Awesome information, one of the best descriptive videos I've found on YT.
Please keep up with the great videos, Nate. They are very helpful and information packed.
Such a knowledgeable rep!!!! Excellent overview!!!! Great tractor!!!
Thanks 👍
I was incredibly happy with my CK3510SE when I bought it in October of 2020 due the price vs features of the SE and stats.. Now 130 hrs I have had so many issues with it that I can't be more disappointed. Been back to the dealer 5 times. Was delivered with 3 large dents in rear fender that was returned so the dealer could pound them out. This will lead to rust down the road due to the powercoat chipping, linked pedal failed, rear tire came off the rim and rimguard ran all over my lawn, a couple weeks later the front tire came off the rim, the seat safety failed twice, once where the dealer just bypassed the safety and gave it back to me without the safety feature, grapple 3rd function electrical failed two different times, grapple hose was routed so it dragged on the ground, the floor mat curls up in colder temps, the gas tank is horrible to fill, the grill guard is extreameily hard to pull the pins, the ROP pins would not engage without the use of a hammer, the powercaot is pealing off the link arms, brushhog was delivered with a safety chain, pins holding the drawbar did not have linch pins in them, rusting fasteners I had to change out, tossing F26/1669 error codes and the entire seat safety ($1700) had to be repalced, on and on. I'm over my limit of frustration.
Hey Charles you have been run throug the ringer ! The last 22 months has been a terrible time to buy a Tractor or other types of machinery. "They got ONE Answer " for Everything that's fouled up for the Consumer, the "19" thing.The main problem is these "Hot cakes" have been flying of the shelves with 25% of the workforce on furlow or sabbatical riding the "Governments Free Handouts", and not going to work doing their JOB! With all this "free money" floating around this caused a MAJOR rush on these small tractors, Aka==record sales==problems. Hope you get it ALL ironed out .
Not saying this isn’t true. But people with money are buying rural plots of land and outfitting them with all nice equipment and amenities… so with that plus people who have had said land chores are also replacing used worn stuff. Plus shipping things have created this chaos. It’s more than some waiter server fast food person lol. Idk many people on said gov hand outs crap that go drop 20000 on a tractor … usually it’s a car bike tv lol. But I’ve been wrong on some things before.
Hey, Charles. Frankly, a lot of these issues sound dealer related, and some of them sound like normal operational hazard (like the tire pressure getting low enough to blow the tire off the bead). Some of them, however, are definitely issues. I think the seat switch is ridiculous, but the powers at be believe they know better and should have us deal with the headaches of safety switches. The good news is that Kioti has redesigned the switch already has come out with a fix that can be done at any dealer. Kioti (Daedong) is one of the few brands sold in the U.S. that actually make their own tractors. When engineering failures like this happen they tend to come up with a fix very quickly compared to brands that repaint someone elses tractor and have to go up the food chain to get fixes done. Hopefully your dealer puts in the effort to get things working better for you and you've got smooth sailing from here.
I am surprised you have had that many issues with your tractor 🚜. They are very good machines, but it seems like there is a problem with final assembly at the dealer since 2019. It is very discouraging and can change your future decisions, but I have to say that my Kioti is great. I bought it in 2017, just very minor things since then.
I've owned a 2017 CK2610 since new. What I didn't realize was the engine is essentially the same as the 35hp, minus the emissions. Only had to turn up the fuel pressure on my CK2610 to make it the 35hp model with no emissions! It is night and day because the hydrostatic transmission was eating up the power. Not anymore! Would love to have a cab model eventually though.
Did you turn it up yourself? Is it easy to change?
@@johnthree1611 Do you have the same tractor?
@@alittlebitofeverything5090 , I purchased the 2023 2620, the newest one.
@@alittlebitofeverything5090 , My 2620 has a cab, loader, and a scraper on the back.
@@johnthree1611 Nice machine. The motor is probably the same. There are a few good videos on how to turn up the power, but it will most likely void your warranty.
Hey Mr. Nathan ,that was a Very good comparison of the contrasting many variants. Almost thought l would of had to remind you of your product. The 35-40hp CK10SE series in the 12×12 shuttle really has it going on, these are my first pick if l was looking for a full featured, all most "luxury liner" &"true small tractor". For the price & features these Rigs are quite grand! The competitors are eather more expensive or are too striped down by comparison. The only two things left to quandry are Dealer-support & the Warranty. I have heard horror stories about both concerning this brand. The nearest Kioti dealer is 45 miles away from me. Where as my Kubota & Massey-Ferguson dealers are Just 11 &10 miles away, with good to excellent support from the both so far in the last 5 years--- no problems. Thank you for the great Video Sir & happy safe tractoring .
Hey, Donald. You make a very good point, but I only have the CK models here in stock in the HST configuration. Once I get the shuttle models I plan on doing another!
You mentioned but didn't elaborate so please tell us the benefits of the common rail vs the 2610 engine.
The common rail 35hp CRDI has about the same fuel consumption as the 25hp DI engine. It's quieter, less smoky on start, and starts MUCH easier in the cold. The downside is the emissions and whatever complications come with it (we haven't seen much issue honestly) and the cost.
I was there yesterday and I guess prices went up? But salesman was polite and honest and owner was nice and knowledgeable. Pleasant experience with them. So the se isn’t just a cab model. Good to know. I enjoyed your video. Maybe I miss understood yesterday. I’m debating on ck2610, ck3510, ck3510se. Possibly dk4210se if funding allows lol. But glad your dealership is doing well Kioti dealers by me well one is switching to mahindra and the other really sells larger case farm all tractors. Anyway thanks for the video and I appreciate the 2 gentleman I spoke to yesterday I was there for a while asking a lot of questions. Some where probably dumb but they did their best to explain. Thank you.
Thanks for stopping by! That's the issue with making these videos! Pricing changes so frequently now I have a hard time but I still want to give people an idea where they start. There's also two ways to buy-a rebate and a 0% finance, so possibly one is priced without the rebate and it looks higher? Either way, I encourage you to compare it to all the competition. Kioti is regularly priced well under the competition when compared against its competitive models.
@@kentonequipment4687 Up here in Ontario, Canada I found that Kioti was $10,000.oo less that Kubota with the same accessories. I think you can figure out what I bought. Now this was 10 years ago, so I can't attest to what they are worth today. I put 10 grand down and financed the rest over 5 years. Got front mount snow blower and a cab for 31Gs. I think I did alright. Still have it and just turned 1074 hours. That is a CK27hst. If I get another one it will be a shuttle shift. A good little tractor and it doesn't get stuck as badly as my Farmall C did.
@@swamprat69er That's a good model. If you ever replace it consider a HST in a higher HP. They don't suck the life out of the engine nearly as badly as that model did.
Good video. I learned a couple of things.
looked at the Kabota L2501 and the price was insane..I got the actual quote today..I thought the 23,400 was OTD..Nope it was 27,265..Thats HST, quick attach bucket, r4 tires filled with Tax and fees and insurance payments around 454 a month..A bit much I think for around the house. Think I'm gonna look at this Kioti model and Mahindra and do a price compare I was expecting the Kabota to be closer.
I bought a cab ch4010se. It was much less expensive than a kubota or Deere. I got a tiller, grapple, rake, forks, bucket for less than the similar bare Kubota
I'm sad the CK2610 SE version only exist wit the cab... I added most of the SE options to my 2610... (but +10k for the cab is way too much for me)
I agree. A CK2610se Open Station would be a best seller.
thanks for sharing the video, can you review the rx series thanks great reviews
I just got 5 on a truckload, so i'm going to be sure to get a review out ASAP. Hopefully they don't sell too fast.
I'm just starting my search for one of these now. What is the price these days? Thanks
Tier 5 emissions isn't a thing yet in the US. That isn't expected to come out until 2028-2029. We are still in FT4
Bring one down to my place its much needed with a bucket. My 8n broke and I can't get my business running.
I just sold my 8n and bought a ck2610 hst and as much as I loved my 8n my kioti is amazing
FM they are inequalities options
👍👍👍👏👏❤️
And yet here is another CK video that doesn't talk about the gear version..........
I'm still trying to get them in stock! I plan on it.
The gear version differences are mainly the same, except obviously the transmission and the things to do with it.
The standard CK is a 9X3 dual stage clutch (live power) with a synchronizer between 2nd and reverse gear.
The SE gets a true 12×12 shuttle shift with a push button independent PTO.
「内容を明確にする必要があります」、
Rebate when you pay cash lol you mean 0% financing isn't truly 0%
Anyone who offers 0% prices it in their sale numbers. One of my father-in-law's best quotes is- if you get something for free, you're the product. At least Kioti is honest enough to give the money back in the event you don't use the 0% financing.
@@kentonequipment4687 I guess in today's world it's finance everything. I'm a bit old fashioned in that sense...but to each his/her own.
@kentonequipment4687 great response. I wish your dealership was closer. Great review, and looks like a great dealership.
What colours do they come in.What a waste of time.
I asked the question the difference between a Ck4010 and a CK3010 and I got this crap.
Does the ck2610 have mechanical injection pumps and injectors? As opposed to electronic.thanks
Yes, all the CK26 units are a 100ci 3 cylinder tuned to just under 25hp with mechanical injection. It used to be Kioti's 30hp engine in the CK30, but like many other manufacturers they detuned it slightly to have an option that stays under emissions control regulations. It really shines in the market as it's one of the largest/heaviest models that doesn't have any sort of computer/emissions engine.
@@kentonequipment4687 Thank you!