Really surprised Chicago hasn’t really tried to reclaim the title of having tallest building in America again. There was a plan for a 2,000 foot residential building in the past, but that project became a failure. Maybe this new building in Oklahoma will give motivation to build tall again Chicago.
( .. We all know the Willis Tower is taller than 1 WTC, F’ that damn “spire”) … of course the residential behemoths that have sprouted up in Midtown in recent years have overtaken everything; I myself have always gone strictly by roof height which is the REAL true measurement
@@billkittleman9631those things are fucking hideous! Wish they could have built something that reflects the Empire State building or Chrysler building.
@@videocollectorguy that would be the biggest middle finger to the Middle East and the antenna could symbolize as the middle fingers to those middle easterns.
To me, slapping a fancy antenna spire on top of building and saying it's part of the height of the building is a joke, because NYC already had a chance to build two super tall towers in the late 90s, in which one of them were going to be about 2200ft tall, but instead, they built a whole bunch of buildings a little over 1200ft
@@pp3k3jamailThe same guy that built the empire State building also built the bank here in Oklahoma City it looks just like the empire State building similar
@@joshcorley9607 There is a truth though that New Yorkers often think their opinions matter more than they do. They think people should care what they think, and to be honest, living in Colorado, I have no reason to consider what a new yorker thinks at all. Also, pride in a building just because you live near it? I have pride in something I helped engineer as a practicing engineer, but it's weird to tie ego into something you didn't even contribute to the creation of
@alexlarson2466 fr bro, I'm just happy to get a tower in my city (though I doubt they'll do the big one, probably just the three smaller ones and a slightly bigger one if anything. Theyve proposed many things over the years that never happened
Central Park Tower, Willis/Sears, Steinway, 432 Park, and soon the new 270 Park Avenue officially, have surpassed One WTC in roof height. That stick on top is a joke.
Not wanting to sound too preachy here, but I recently read that Minneapolis is setting records for recently building the most affordable housing. How 'bout judging cities by that standard?
The height of the current 1 WTC in NYC feels symbolic because of both why it was built and what it represents, and even though it technically isn't the tallest building in the United States, the symbolism represented with the tower alone is more than you could imagine (especially with its total overall height.) However, if OKC wants to build something that's taller than every building in the United States currently, they are allowed to (I'm not from NY, just want to point that out.) However, if they do build that tower, then they better make it tornado-proof (and extremely windproofed in general because the mesocyclonic winds,) add a lightning spire, make it earthquake resistant (up to 7.0 on the Moment Magnitude scale,) and make sure that it's actually going to last a while.
❤ The Willis Tower, best known as the Sears Tower in Chicago, is taller than the Freedom Tower in NYC. The Freedom Towers antenna is just a tad bit taller. Chicago has the tallest physical building in the country.
The OWTC's antenna doubles as a spire, and spires officially count, and antenna don't, as long as you're talking architectural height, but since the OWTC's is both, it still counts. If you're talking total height, which counts everything (hopefully not lightning rods and maintenance equipment, that'll just be stupid,) then the OWTC still wins. If you're talking highest roof height, then Central Park Tower in NYC wins. If you are talking highest floor, then I have to point out how much I hate that way of measuring building height, and will refuse to answer any further. So no matter how you measure building height, NYC comes out on top among US cities in 2024.
Central Park Tower is taller, or at least it's listed at 1550 to "the tip". Willis Tower is like 1450 without counting its pole on the top. Central Park Tower actually has two listed heights but I'm not sure why.
I'm a New Yorker but I think it would be really cool if OKC built a taller skyscraper. I've met a few Oklahomans and they're very nice, hardworking folks 😎👍
One World Trade isn't really 1776 feet tall, not in my book anyway. How long is the flag pole thingy on top, 430 feet or so? The roof of that building isn't even the highest in NY, to call it the tallest is kinda cheap with that huge pole on top.
Tornados never sniff the metro downtown area. Lived in Oklahoma my whole life. Tornados hardly ever get past the suburbs. The wind is an issue but downtown never has gotten a tornado EVER
@@jfinity_362false, there’s been multiple tornadoes hit the the downtown area over the past 100 years, the last of which occurred in 2000. Thankfully said tornado was rated a F0. I think we’ve just got extremely lucky, and are well overdue for a destructive one. No way you can rule that out, if you’ve lived here your entire life then you know it’s a possibility.
But why OKC though? The city it self only have few tall buildings. And planning to put the tallest building in America in that city you think is feasible?
Two World Trade Center has been planned forever but still hasn't been built. The designs (which keep changing every few years) could easily be amended to make it even taller than the Oklahoma building, just saying....
But? Oklahoma City,OK is Smack Dab in the Middle of Tornado Alley. Plus They Have those Strong Severe Thunderstorms with Hail and Lightning. If Built and Completed It’ll Be the Largest and Tallest Known Lightning Rod in History
As someone who used to live in Arkansas and now resides in Chicago, I can confidently say that this must be a joke. I wholeheartedly agree with the news anchor's statement; this building would most likely never be constructed. It would be so out of place that it might even disgust people by its mere sight.
Have you seen Chicago? Take your blinders off. As I recall there’s a huge hole in the ground where the 150 floor 2000’ tall Chicago Spire was going to be built en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Spire
@jamesthompson9876 I wanted to emphasize that constructing a building of this height in a remote location will make it look like an eyesore because the surroundings don't complement it. Just like those casinos that are randomly built off the highway. If you build this building in a city such as Chicago or New York, it would still stand out, but it would blend in better.
A sideshow attraction is what it’ll look like. The rest of the city would never catch up to that height. Hell a building that size would stand out in Los Angeles or Houston and they’re cities numbers 2 and 4.
It's a neat idea, but it requires a transit system to support it. Mere driving could never possibly support that many units in under four acres of land. The reason why Manhattan is able to have so many super tall skyscrapers is because they have the transit system to support them. If Oklahoma wants to build out a great transit system, and make their downtown dense, vibrant, and walkable, then I think this tower would be a feather in their cap. At the moment though, this tower would be surrounded by a tiny amount of high rise buildings followed by endless parking lots and suburban sprawl.
@@PrimeRibb69 While it's a start, it's really not sufficient on its own. However, OKC has a fantastic legacy rail viaduct running right through the center of the city that's connected to existing rail ROW's that run through many suburban and exurban communities. With a relatively low investment, these corridors could be upgraded to build a frequent suburban and intercity rail system. From there, it would be great to see new streetcar lines, but also some proper, fully grade separated, elevated light metro to serve the busiest urban corridors. Along with an extensive freeway system, OKC also has quite a few suburban roads with over six lanes, meaning most of them can support BRT Gold Standard Busways to connect to rail stations beyond the core metro region. OKC has some serious potential to build a great transit network, especially when it comes to mainline rail, but it needs to be advocated for and built.
@@alexlarson2466 We're playing by American standards here, so we have to make do with the best we can until hopefully we can eventually have decent transit systems.
High speed rail can only realistically reach from NYC to Kansas City in order to be feasible. Texas can only realistically connect all of it's own major cities but then can't reach anywhere out of state... But if OKC can become a much more significant city with increased tourism and population, then perhaps it could become feasible to connect a future Texas high speed rail network to Kansas City/Chicago/NYC via OKC.
Good. That freedom tower is an embarrassment to the entire country. It does not represent what should be represented. The original wtc towers should have been rebuilt at least a floor taller and a lot stronger.
If you consider that thing on Freedom tower a ''Spire'' than ask yourself is a thin steel skeleton hold up by steel wires just like any other radio mast a part of a building? Where wind can pass through? No its not a Spire on freedom tower. There are already numerous taller buildings in the USA than this.
If they actually build it, NYC should rebuild the twin towers. In another location in Manhattan of course, both at least 2,001 feet high. And more castle like with a giant spire atop the north tower similar to the one atop the Empire State Building. Except a gothic instead of art deco spire, and add corner spires on the south tower with a giant stainless steel eagle statue in the middle. That would inspire Chicago to build the Chicago spire, make it at least twice as tall. That way the rest of the world can play catch up again with the U.S.
@@AnixCo1990 you want to rebuild the twin towers 2,001 ft tall 💀 and them be more castle like? With a spire like the Empire State Building except gothic?? And corner spires on the south tower 💀with a giant statue of an Eagle that would inspire Chicago somehow? I’m just confused with all the contradictory designs going on
@@skool_Lunch it’s a good design, the giant gothic spire would be complimented by the smaller gothic spires of the south tower. And the construction of those towers would likely reignite the race for the tallest building in the world between Chicago in nyc.
Remember, most smart developers don't build something so tall anywhere for no apparent reason, there has to be a known demand for something like this for them to even consider it.
Yes it is but no matter where a tornado would happen, skyscrapers would most likely still be standing. The only ones that wouldn’t would be ones with structural problems already to begin with but that would be few and far between
Here in the US, I thought we gave up trying to capture "tallest building" titles and let the rest of the world (Im looking at you Dubai and East Asia) have at it. We have more important things to worry about in this country than a measuring contest 😅
It's a pretty silly pursuit. I live in NYC. Not many people here care about having the tallest building. The need for bragging rights is restricted to commercial real estate developers. I do appreciate good architecture. The goal of heights dilutes good design potential in most cases.
@@Ruddermeister It's simply about edifice envy. Beyond a a certain height, it's all the same to me. I experience architecture mostly from the ground. The truth is most tall buildings are just tall, don't offer anything interesting to the pedestrian. One WTC and Willis tower come to mind.
NYC is dead. Bad politics, bad judges, bad mayor, bad governor and everything is overpriced. Get out while you can. OKC is a nice city, growing, thriving, great mayor, great governor, good judges and better politics. Bye bye NYC, I am going to OKC.
I think New York city should respond by building one even taller. The skylines in US cities look basic compared to the ones over seas in the middle east and Asia. Take for example the Burj Khalifa in Dubai and Kingdom tower in Jeddah (under construction).
Just as Mexico plans to build one taller than the Willis Tower which would bump the Willis to fourth tallest building in the Americas but now it would be the fifth if the OKC building gets built and the Mexican one would be fourth place. If Torre Rise gets completed before the OKC tower it will be the third tallest which it probably will as they already started construction.
@@MrStevenAttilaNo legit I understand them building it in cities like houston, miami, seattle, san francisco, Los angeles, NYC, Chicago, Austin, Dallas, Boston, Atlanta, Jersey city, Philadelphia or maybe even vegas because they all have the skyline for it 😭 But like oklahoma city?!?! It’s the most random place soley because it doesn’t even have a skyline it’ll look like seoul but even then at least seoul is bustling metropolis with some small skyscrapers 😭 Oklahoma city just makes no sense for this tower at all
Lifelong OKC resident here. While I love impressive skylines and have been looking forward to the upcoming towers in the “Boardwalk Project,” I had to laugh in wonder and amazement though when I saw the rendering for the 1,907 foot tower. Part of me says Go For It! But the other part of me recognizes that our beautiful 844 foot Devon Tower already dwarfs the other buildings downtown, so this would look absolutely crazy. Ultimately I’m doubting it’ll get built. Flash forward five or six years, and I suspect that what we'll see standing there is a VERY tall tower, but nothing close to what would be the tallest building in America. The Texas girl did make me laugh. Go Sooners!
I live in Oklahoma City. They could spend their money on improving other parts of the state, helping homeless people, or other things, but they decided to build the tallest building in the US. What a huge waste of money, at least the Devon tower has a purpose, what purpose does this building hold? Governor stitt, don’t do let them do this!
The architecture (AO) and the City has to wait for the FAA to get the approval first for the height requirement. And from the latest interview from OETA, that process is already underway. The 3 other towers will begin construction this summer.
If it ever starts it will never be finished. People in Oklahoma really need to think about having a half finished concrete tower blighting their community for the next 30 years.
Its a cool building, but wouldnt it be better to spread out and build multiple mid-density developements instead? I think a city like oklahoma city would be far better off with that, just to its economy and so forth. Oh well
Probably not gonna get funded. NYC makes sense to build up, Manhattan=Small island. Less space = Having to build vertically. Why would you build a supertall in Oklahoma if you could just build dozens of smaller cheaper building and reach the same 5 million square feet
They can build it as tall as they want, but no one’s gonna travel more than 100 miles specifically to Oklahoma City to see this. Oklahoma City is not a destination city like NYC, Vegas, Orlando, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Dallas etc etc.
It’s not a destination city for you. Speak on your own city. Since you’re talking, where are you from? So I can tell you if my Oklahoman ass ever desired to visit your city?
You realize city have to grow to get to that status’s 60 years ago going to Vegas made no sense, this is the kind of thing that would make it a city to visit in the future
The talletst skyscraper should not be built in OK City - it would look out of balance and "naked" in a city skyline that has itself yet to find. Certain cities like OK City, Phoenix, San Antonio and some others have skylines that don't match their size, economic clout or population. To place a "tallest" skyscraper in an "underrated" existing skyline does not prop it up by any means - makes it look lost and out of place. These cities need to establish a decent skyline prior to getting any "tallest" in their repetoire.
You realize places like Chicago when they built their tallest it looked massively out of place being triple the height of everything around it, it takes time but the skyline would fill out just like what happened to Dubai, Chicago, and New York when they made their tallest
@@-OAK- Ok City Skyline is nothing like NYC, Chicago and cannot be compared to cities like Dubai. These cities gradually built their skylines up, not plunk a tall bldg. in an already small existing skyline whose economical standings barely scratch the surface
@@juicyfruit4378 you realize all of those cities built a skyscraper that was so much bigger than their surroundings and once after building that more skyscrapers came in, look at the sears tower in the 1970s it was the triple the size of everything around it, it wasn’t until after it was built skyscrapers started to be built, and Chicago has been on a decline in population for like 60 years, and it still grew its skyline so why is one of the fastest growing cities the country and the one said to have the most potential not capable of doing that. the Empire State in the 1930s was bigger than everything next to it now it’s average looking, the berj khalifa was literally built by absolutely nothing, less than there is in OKC, and once it was built sky scrapers in the area skyrocketed. Literally Dubai had waaaaaaaaayyy less towers than OKC in 2005 the reason it’s skyline is big is for building a tall tower. Almost every city that builds a tall tower like this gets a big skyline from it.
@@-OAK- In the case of Chicago and NYC, their skyline evolved much earlier and had numerous mid-level buildings before the larger ones arrived. Both cities, being the first and 3rd in the nation had and still possess much more economcal clout than OK City had back then to include the present times. In fact, OK City will not grow or "catch up" to either of them in the near or distant future. As previously stated, both NYC and Chicago's skylines grew steadily and not with sporadic tall buildings; rather it was gradual rise in skyscrapers not an intermittant or infrequent one like the building being propsed in OK City contrasting with the existing small and short skyline. A city's population trend, has no correlation to Ok City's proposed skyline; however, since you mentioned it, according to the UN and Fortune, the projected population grownt of US Cities growth for 2030 is as follows: NYC, LA, Chicago, Houston, Dallas-Fort Worth (Metroplex), Miami, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Washington D.C. and Phoenix. Source: www.newgeography.com/content/004464-un-projects-2030-us-urban-area-populations#:~:text=The%20Largest%20Cities%20in%202030&text=The%20top%2010%20would%20remain,of%20Phoenix%20is%20particularly%20impressive. 5 fastest-growing cities by population change 1. San Antonio - 21,970 2. Houston, - 21,365 3. Atlanta, Ga. - 12,052 4. Dallas - 11,669 5. Washington, D.C. - 8,023 NOTE: Oklahoma City ranked at 15 with 3,989. Source: fortune.com/2024/05/16/fastest-growing-cities-2023-census-bureau/economy-USA/regional-353YzL4%top8 Again, irrelevant information as the city's economical clout is what generates it's skyline, due to property prices increase and employment, in turn, usually causing population growth. OK City property prices are amongst the cheapest in the US, and has much open space to grow outward versus upward. Also, the city does not contain one Major Fortune 500 Headquarter according to Forbes outside of Hobby Lobby. Under the GAWC, OK City is listed under "Sufficient City" way below cities in it's regions like Dallas and Houstin which are listed as Beta +. These regional Beta cities draw away from OK City as their economical clout overshadows OK City to certain extents. Oneok is the first entry of any Fortune 500 Company in the state of Oklahoma ranking at 173 and it's located in Tulsa. Source: www.50pros.com/fortune500 Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization_and_World_Cities_Research_Network OK City will eventually build it's skyline gradually as most cities have done; however, back to the original topic and which most agreed to on this blog is that a large skyscraper of this size being built onto an existing small skyline looks disproportionate to a city that currently lacks the economical clout of it's much larger regional neighbors, let alone cities like NYC, LA, Chicago and has much land mass available at below-average cost in most urban areas across the USA to build outward versus upward. Hope this helps.
I have my doubts this thing will be built; and even if it is, I doubt it'll reach the proposed height. I hope I'm wrong though, this thing looks insane!
NYC, LA and Chicago are old rotting cities and it's time for cities like Atlanta, Philly, Houston, Dallas, Miami, Austin and Charlotte to take the spotlight since everyone and their mother is moving to them. Go OKC even though the super tall tower will look awkward standing by itself.
It’s one thing to be proud of your city, but the dismissive attitude of these people is shocking. OKC is a vibrant and growing city, one of the largest in America. And yes, you can’t fill NYC buildings, that’s because everyone is moving to Oklahoma. Get ready to be second place.
At least what i am proposing to my city is of reasonable height. 500 feer to the observation area and maybe 10 or 15 feet taller for the roof which would be the highest point.
These comments are so funny literally butthurt people from all over the country acting like they know so much about OKC it’s going to be built wether you like it or not it may not be all 1,900 height but it will happen definitely for the other three mid size buildings too in the plan.
Such a tower would fit in the NYC skyline. I find it hard to believe people in OKC would be comfortable with such a monstrosity towering over their city. It would look so out of place.
The highest floor of this tower would be almost the same height as the freedom tower including its needle, so it would drawf the sears tower, not only that but there’s still the needle height that goes on this tower to make it 130+ feet taller than the freedom tower
That sounds so cool to me. OKC is coming up. I don't know why these other people from NY or Texas are upset about it, but whatever. My main concern with it would honestly be our tornadoes 🌪 lol
Hopefully this spurs the building of additional skyscrapers in OKC though, because one massive skyscraper all alone would look strange I know OKC has some tall buildings like any city does, but nothing else THIS tall
Because no one else is supposed to have Super talls and attention but them , Chicago, Miami and Atlanta, it’s called self centered.. get my drift my friend..🧐😂😜🏢📸
It just goes to show that most of the Money ,but not all the Money isn't just in places Like Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, & Cincinnati Just to name a few
While NYC remains stagnant as far as physical development due to land restrictions, the rest of the country literally wants nothing to do with NYC. We forget it’s even part of our country. The rest of the US will evolve and grow, meanwhile the normal population will continue to live a far greater quality of life without the restrictions and costs of NYC.
The WTC is a chode, it’s ridiculously small compared to the real tall buildings of the world, but what can you do when nobody wants office space in a skyscraper anymore.
Really surprised Chicago hasn’t really tried to reclaim the title of having tallest building in America again. There was a plan for a 2,000 foot residential building in the past, but that project became a failure. Maybe this new building in Oklahoma will give motivation to build tall again Chicago.
( .. We all know the Willis Tower is taller than 1 WTC, F’ that damn “spire”) … of course the residential behemoths that have sprouted up in Midtown in recent years have overtaken everything; I myself have always gone strictly by roof height which is the REAL true measurement
@@billkittleman9631it’s the SEARS tower
There is no economic reason to ever built anything taller than the SEARS tower. Anything taller than SEARS is just purely about ego.
sears tower roof already taller than 1wtc roof. spire ain't shit. if it was, than count the TV mast in Nebraska
@@billkittleman9631those things are fucking hideous! Wish they could have built something that reflects the Empire State building or Chrysler building.
The World Trade Center isn’t even that tall, thanks to its Spire it looks taller.
Well they can make it tall by rebuilding the twin towers back to 3000ft
@@r62aguy85 That would look so egregious in the skyline
@@videocollectorguy that would be the biggest middle finger to the Middle East and the antenna could symbolize as the middle fingers to those middle easterns.
without spire its third tallest in the country so it is really tall
spires should never count.
To me, slapping a fancy antenna spire on top of building and saying it's part of the height of the building is a joke, because NYC already had a chance to build two super tall towers in the late 90s, in which one of them were going to be about 2200ft tall, but instead, they built a whole bunch of buildings a little over 1200ft
No building would ever capture NYC's essence like the original twin tower's.
Exactly. The new WTC is an Orwellian joke…
Twin towers are over rated. The Empire state building and the Chrysler and Woolworth buildings are better.
Twin Towers was like a earlobe, they where just there
@@pp3k3jamailThe same guy that built the empire State building also built the bank here in Oklahoma City it looks just like the empire State building similar
@@pp3k3jamailthe Empire State Building is massively overrated twin towers are underrated besides they were special because they were twins you 🤡
Yeah but people in Oklahoma really don't care what people in New York think
Another boomer
@@joshcorley9607 There is a truth though that New Yorkers often think their opinions matter more than they do. They think people should care what they think, and to be honest, living in Colorado, I have no reason to consider what a new yorker thinks at all. Also, pride in a building just because you live near it? I have pride in something I helped engineer as a practicing engineer, but it's weird to tie ego into something you didn't even contribute to the creation of
@alexlarson2466 fr bro, I'm just happy to get a tower in my city (though I doubt they'll do the big one, probably just the three smaller ones and a slightly bigger one if anything. Theyve proposed many things over the years that never happened
And believe me people in New York don't even know what Oklahoma is LOL
@@strongman410 congrats on being uneducated then
Central Park Tower, Willis/Sears, Steinway, 432 Park, and soon the new 270 Park Avenue officially, have surpassed One WTC in roof height. That stick on top is a joke.
The magic stick?
@@ripclaybourne yeah, Harry Potter’s wand.
The freedom stick
The factory antenna
Never diss The Freedom Stick.
Oklahoma City is the headquarters of the seven state Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Comission founded in 1935, whom OPEC modelled itself after.
Oil and gas...why am I not surprised!!!
@@Ruddermeister Headquarters of global WTI.
Sorry we are talking about skyscrapers.
This skyscraper is sending a message to the world.@@benjaminingram4857
Yeah, but Tulsa is the oil capitol of the world.
Not wanting to sound too preachy here, but I recently read that Minneapolis is setting records for recently building the most affordable housing. How 'bout judging cities by that standard?
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@@zo62 That's not even a word. If it's some critique or slur, that what is it complaining about -- that housing is getting more affordable?
@@brianarbenz1329 🤫
@@brianarbenz1329lib
Pretty easy to be affordable when you’re an ice cube…
The height of the current 1 WTC in NYC feels symbolic because of both why it was built and what it represents, and even though it technically isn't the tallest building in the United States, the symbolism represented with the tower alone is more than you could imagine (especially with its total overall height.) However, if OKC wants to build something that's taller than every building in the United States currently, they are allowed to (I'm not from NY, just want to point that out.)
However, if they do build that tower, then they better make it tornado-proof (and extremely windproofed in general because the mesocyclonic winds,) add a lightning spire, make it earthquake resistant (up to 7.0 on the Moment Magnitude scale,) and make sure that it's actually going to last a while.
Towers like this are some of the strongest architectural achievements mankind has ever made. There are many documentaries. Explaining the process.
"OU sucks, im from texas" LMFAO
What’s ou?
@jdos5643 OU is the university of oklahoma, both OU and the university of Texas have a huge football rivalry
@@ohwaitchristian oh
Sooners are better than longhorns. Even Arch manning can’t save them.
Texas is going to get destroyed in the SEC lol
❤ The Willis Tower, best known as the Sears Tower in Chicago, is taller than the Freedom Tower in NYC. The Freedom Towers antenna is just a tad bit taller. Chicago has the tallest physical building in the country.
It’s a spire not a antenna
No the Central Park tower at 1550 feet physically is 100ft taller than willis
The OWTC's antenna doubles as a spire, and spires officially count, and antenna don't, as long as you're talking architectural height, but since the OWTC's is both, it still counts.
If you're talking total height, which counts everything (hopefully not lightning rods and maintenance equipment, that'll just be stupid,) then the OWTC still wins.
If you're talking highest roof height, then Central Park Tower in NYC wins.
If you are talking highest floor, then I have to point out how much I hate that way of measuring building height, and will refuse to answer any further.
So no matter how you measure building height, NYC comes out on top among US cities in 2024.
@@HelpICantThinkOfACleverNamecan One Physically Walk to the top of the “spire” on Freedom tower ?
Central Park Tower is taller, or at least it's listed at 1550 to "the tip". Willis Tower is like 1450 without counting its pole on the top. Central Park Tower actually has two listed heights but I'm not sure why.
I am a New Yorker, and I love skyscrapers. Go Oklahoma City!
I'm a New Yorker but I think it would be really cool if OKC built a taller skyscraper. I've met a few Oklahomans and they're very nice, hardworking folks 😎👍
Oklahoma City sits right near the heart of tornado alley. 🌪️ A skyscraper in that place would probably be a bad idea.
A house built of sticks is even worse.
@@ayoutubechannelname😂😂 a house made out of box is probably worse too
Tornadoes are very vulnerable to buildings
They've survived tornadoes before 2:06
Tornado magnet. 🧲 🌪️
One World Trade isn't really 1776 feet tall, not in my book anyway. How long is the flag pole thingy on top, 430 feet or so? The roof of that building isn't even the highest in NY, to call it the tallest is kinda cheap with that huge pole on top.
If I'm 5'3" and grow a 9 inch mohawk. Does that make me 6ft tall?
Sounds like a terrible idea. A tornado will carry it off to Arkansas.
Tornados never sniff the metro downtown area. Lived in Oklahoma my whole life. Tornados hardly ever get past the suburbs. The wind is an issue but downtown never has gotten a tornado EVER
These are built to survive tornados
The building is like 10 times taller than a tornado could even get.
@@jfinity_362false, there’s been multiple tornadoes hit the the downtown area over the past 100 years, the last of which occurred in 2000. Thankfully said tornado was rated a F0. I think we’ve just got extremely lucky, and are well overdue for a destructive one. No way you can rule that out, if you’ve lived here your entire life then you know it’s a possibility.
That tornado didn't do damage. It weakened after getting through the suburbs. It was winding down. I lived in downtown.@@Dman1998
I believe the new project at the site of the Grand Hyatt hotel to begin sometime this year will be the tallest building in the USA height wise
But why OKC though? The city it self only have few tall buildings. And planning to put the tallest building in America in that city you think is feasible?
Right?! I would’ve excepted Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, Huston, LA or even Miami!! I would’ve never excepted Oklahoma City 😂
No one ever expects it to be OKC. Same goes for our NBA team, no one thought we could host an NBA team... I mean, you know how that went.@@beasley1232
@@beasley1232We don’t GAF what you expect. Apparently it’s a reason why they are choosing to build there and none of those cities that you mentioned.
Two World Trade Center has been planned forever but still hasn't been built. The designs (which keep changing every few years) could easily be amended to make it even taller than the Oklahoma building, just saying....
well then they should build it
Sadly all the designs they have for WTC 2 are super ridiculous. SMH...
I think they want 1 wtc to be the tallest in the wtc complex though, considering it’s design and how it’s supposed to be “symbolic” and such.
They found the one Texas fan in NYC lmaoooo
Yall New Yorkers Sound a lil Salty, about this new tower not being built in NYC🧂 😂.
Salty about Oklahoma?! 😂😂😂 You're dillusional!!!
But? Oklahoma City,OK is Smack Dab in the Middle of Tornado Alley. Plus They Have those Strong Severe Thunderstorms with Hail and Lightning. If Built and Completed It’ll Be the Largest and Tallest Known Lightning Rod in History
Lmao I’m not even from New York but trust me no one and I mean no one is salty about Oklahoma
I sometimes forget Oklahoma even exists if it wasn’t for the OKC Thunder.
1 tall building ight bro💀💀💀💀
As someone who used to live in Arkansas and now resides in Chicago, I can confidently say that this must be a joke. I wholeheartedly agree with the news anchor's statement; this building would most likely never be constructed. It would be so out of place that it might even disgust people by its mere sight.
Have you seen Chicago? Take your blinders off. As I recall there’s a huge hole in the ground where the 150 floor 2000’ tall Chicago Spire was going to be built
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Spire
@jamesthompson9876 I wanted to emphasize that constructing a building of this height in a remote location will make it look like an eyesore because the surroundings don't complement it. Just like those casinos that are randomly built off the highway. If you build this building in a city such as Chicago or New York, it would still stand out, but it would blend in better.
@@ar3421You can fix that by upgrading the surroundings. It’s called development.
A sideshow attraction is what it’ll look like. The rest of the city would never catch up to that height. Hell a building that size would stand out in Los Angeles or Houston and they’re cities numbers 2 and 4.
@@ayoutubechannelnameHow many thousand foot towers do you think OKC will build? You don’t even have a million people in the city. Be realistic.
It's a neat idea, but it requires a transit system to support it. Mere driving could never possibly support that many units in under four acres of land. The reason why Manhattan is able to have so many super tall skyscrapers is because they have the transit system to support them. If Oklahoma wants to build out a great transit system, and make their downtown dense, vibrant, and walkable, then I think this tower would be a feather in their cap. At the moment though, this tower would be surrounded by a tiny amount of high rise buildings followed by endless parking lots and suburban sprawl.
OKC just installed a light rail/trolley system, so..
@@PrimeRibb69 While it's a start, it's really not sufficient on its own. However, OKC has a fantastic legacy rail viaduct running right through the center of the city that's connected to existing rail ROW's that run through many suburban and exurban communities. With a relatively low investment, these corridors could be upgraded to build a frequent suburban and intercity rail system. From there, it would be great to see new streetcar lines, but also some proper, fully grade separated, elevated light metro to serve the busiest urban corridors. Along with an extensive freeway system, OKC also has quite a few suburban roads with over six lanes, meaning most of them can support BRT Gold Standard Busways to connect to rail stations beyond the core metro region. OKC has some serious potential to build a great transit network, especially when it comes to mainline rail, but it needs to be advocated for and built.
As someone from Asia, I would hardly call NYC's public transit capable of supporting the city
@@alexlarson2466 We're playing by American standards here, so we have to make do with the best we can until hopefully we can eventually have decent transit systems.
Big deal, just build extra underground parking
As someone from the UK oklahoma city is a very unknown city so this new tall skyscraper will be a boost for the city
It's a phallic symbol.
The hate is real lol!
But the common sense is strong! lol
The sad thing is that they probably would’ve built this building in NYC if it hadn’t become such a heIIhole in the past several years
Right. These internet cornballs are lame AF. Hating just to be hating.
Who would lease anything there???
High speed rail can only realistically reach from NYC to Kansas City in order to be feasible. Texas can only realistically connect all of it's own major cities but then can't reach anywhere out of state... But if OKC can become a much more significant city with increased tourism and population, then perhaps it could become feasible to connect a future Texas high speed rail network to Kansas City/Chicago/NYC via OKC.
If I were a New Yorker I wouldn’t fret; OKC’s tower will end up relocated to NYC anyway by a tornado
Good. That freedom tower is an embarrassment to the entire country. It does not represent what should be represented. The original wtc towers should have been rebuilt at least a floor taller and a lot stronger.
🎉 it’s an I dare say A Disgrace
Yes I agree. And they should have called it the New World Trade Center, not the Freedom Tower.
Agree. Instead, we built WEAKER. 😢
@@JeanEDeauxhow is it weaker? It is taller, and is much stronger than the ugly squares we previously had
@@CoolEdo they may have been weaker but they were cool and bold, just wish the new tower had that same boldness
Building it for Chet, Shai, and JDub
Why Would Someone Go To This Buildings Observatory And Just See Suburban Homes Like It’s Impractical???
If you consider that thing on Freedom tower a ''Spire'' than ask yourself is a thin steel skeleton hold up by steel wires just like any other radio mast a part of a building? Where wind can pass through? No its not a Spire on freedom tower.
There are already numerous taller buildings in
the USA than this.
If they actually build it, NYC should rebuild the twin towers. In another location in Manhattan of course, both at least 2,001 feet high. And more castle like with a giant spire atop the north tower similar to the one atop the Empire State Building. Except a gothic instead of art deco spire, and add corner spires on the south tower with a giant stainless steel eagle statue in the middle. That would inspire Chicago to build the Chicago spire, make it at least twice as tall. That way the rest of the world can play catch up again with the U.S.
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@@skool_Lunch what’s the question?
@@AnixCo1990 you want to rebuild the twin towers 2,001 ft tall 💀 and them be more castle like? With a spire like the Empire State Building except gothic?? And corner spires on the south tower 💀with a giant statue of an Eagle that would inspire Chicago somehow? I’m just confused with all the contradictory designs going on
@@skool_Lunch it’s a good design, the giant gothic spire would be complimented by the smaller gothic spires of the south tower. And the construction of those towers would likely reignite the race for the tallest building in the world between Chicago in nyc.
The twin tower should never be rebuilt! I know people who died in there! That would be a huge slap in the face!
Remember, most smart developers don't build something so tall anywhere for no apparent reason, there has to be a known demand for something like this for them to even consider it.
Im not an american but is oklahoma not prone to tornadoes?
Yes it is but no matter where a tornado would happen, skyscrapers would most likely still be standing. The only ones that wouldn’t would be ones with structural problems already to begin with but that would be few and far between
@@lakerskid2013 even if the building stands, what about broken glass being thrown about?
@@redstone5062 That’s true, but that’s an issue that could happen with any skyscraper
@@redstone5062there’s glass that can survive tornadoes which they will use
Here in the US, I thought we gave up trying to capture "tallest building" titles and let the rest of the world (Im looking at you Dubai and East Asia) have at it. We have more important things to worry about in this country than a measuring contest 😅
It's a pretty silly pursuit. I live in NYC. Not many people here care about having the tallest building. The need for bragging rights is restricted to commercial real estate developers. I do appreciate good architecture. The goal of heights dilutes good design potential in most cases.
@@markrichards6863so true. Lack of responses speaks for itself.
@@Ruddermeister It's simply about edifice envy. Beyond a a certain height, it's all the same to me. I experience architecture mostly from the ground. The truth is most tall buildings are just tall, don't offer anything interesting to the pedestrian. One WTC and Willis tower come to mind.
NYC is dead. Bad politics, bad judges, bad mayor, bad governor and everything is overpriced. Get out while you can. OKC is a nice city, growing, thriving, great mayor, great governor, good judges and better politics. Bye bye NYC, I am going to OKC.
I think this would be epic, it give the city a lot more to do and more life and gets people who live in NY and Texas mad.
lol why okc. Wouldn’t it look odd there idk
I think New York city should respond by building one even taller. The skylines in US cities look basic compared to the ones over seas in the middle east and Asia. Take for example the Burj Khalifa in Dubai and Kingdom tower in Jeddah (under construction).
The Willis tower in Chicago is taller than the freedom tower. Tell the truth the spire shouldn’t count as building height.
Just as Mexico plans to build one taller than the Willis Tower which would bump the Willis to fourth tallest building in the Americas but now it would be the fifth if the OKC building gets built and the Mexican one would be fourth place. If Torre Rise gets completed before the OKC tower it will be the third tallest which it probably will as they already started construction.
One World Trade Center: exists
Future Building: *ima take that shit away*
I wish them good luck! I mean why to have huge buildings only in NY and Chicago?
new york and chicago aren’t the only cities that have tall buildings in the US lol. They’re the ones that make the most sense 😭
@@nombretaken9467 this is what I meant by the way lol
yeah why not build a giant building in a literal cornfield
@@MrStevenAttilaNo legit I understand them building it in cities like houston, miami, seattle, san francisco, Los angeles, NYC, Chicago, Austin, Dallas, Boston, Atlanta, Jersey city, Philadelphia or maybe even vegas because they all have the skyline for it 😭 But like oklahoma city?!?! It’s the most random place soley because it doesn’t even have a skyline it’ll look like seoul but even then at least seoul is bustling metropolis with some small skyscrapers 😭 Oklahoma city just makes no sense for this tower at all
@@nombretaken9467Seoul South Korea? They have tall skyscrapers man!
Lifelong OKC resident here. While I love impressive skylines and have been looking forward to the upcoming towers in the “Boardwalk Project,” I had to laugh in wonder and amazement though when I saw the rendering for the 1,907 foot tower. Part of me says Go For It! But the other part of me recognizes that our beautiful 844 foot Devon Tower already dwarfs the other buildings downtown, so this would look absolutely crazy. Ultimately I’m doubting it’ll get built. Flash forward five or six years, and I suspect that what we'll see standing there is a VERY tall tower, but nothing close to what would be the tallest building in America. The Texas girl did make me laugh. Go Sooners!
Or you could, you know, improve the urban design and infrastructure of Oklahoma City for everyone. Just a thought
That build building in Oklahoma City? That doesn’t make sense. Are their big buildings there already?
10th tallest by state having their tallest bigger than cities like Minneapolis and Boston, it’s the Devon tower at 844ft
The costs involved in this blow my mind.
New York now has over 100 million square feet of vacant office space. The question isn’t can Oklahoma City fill the space, but can New York?
I live in Oklahoma City. They could spend their money on improving other parts of the state, helping homeless people, or other things, but they decided to build the tallest building in the US. What a huge waste of money, at least the Devon tower has a purpose, what purpose does this building hold? Governor stitt, don’t do let them do this!
Did the developer buy all of the air rights in Oklahoma ?
Good for the city, and honestly good for the country
If its so insulting then someone should build a 2000+footer in the Hudson Yards
OKC really trying hard
The architecture (AO) and the City has to wait for the FAA to get the approval first for the height requirement. And from the latest interview from OETA, that process is already underway. The 3 other towers will begin construction this summer.
So cringy when the media calls it the freedom tower
The fear tower.
My first thought was: Would this OKC building be tornado-proof? 😅
I welcome tall skyscrapers no matter where in the U.S.
How a super tall “ *schtoinker* “ in windswept Oklahoma is even economically feasible is beyond me … 🤷🏽♂️
If it ever starts it will never be finished. People in Oklahoma really need to think about having a half finished concrete tower blighting their community for the next 30 years.
Its a cool building, but wouldnt it be better to spread out and build multiple mid-density developements instead? I think a city like oklahoma city would be far better off with that, just to its economy and so forth. Oh well
Probably not gonna get funded. NYC makes sense to build up, Manhattan=Small island. Less space = Having to build vertically. Why would you build a supertall in Oklahoma if you could just build dozens of smaller cheaper building and reach the same 5 million square feet
What about when a tornado will roll through?
Nothing will happen, it’s tornado proof and downtown OKC has never been hit by a tornado, Chicago has had closer calls than okc
Meanwhile NYC ages and Rots away
NOTE: An antenna does not count, this title is manufactured. I say this as a New Yorker.
They can build it as tall as they want, but no one’s gonna travel more than 100 miles specifically to Oklahoma City to see this. Oklahoma City is not a destination city like NYC, Vegas, Orlando, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Dallas etc etc.
It’s not a destination city for you. Speak on your own city. Since you’re talking, where are you from? So I can tell you if my Oklahoman ass ever desired to visit your city?
You realize city have to grow to get to that status’s 60 years ago going to Vegas made no sense, this is the kind of thing that would make it a city to visit in the future
The arrogance of NYC. I hope Oklahoma City builts it, just to piss NYC off. lol
I'm from Oklahoma let get this
The talletst skyscraper should not be built in OK City - it would look out of balance and "naked" in a city skyline that has itself yet to find. Certain cities like OK City, Phoenix, San Antonio and some others have skylines that don't match their size, economic clout or population. To place a "tallest" skyscraper in an "underrated" existing skyline does not prop it up by any means - makes it look lost and out of place. These cities need to establish a decent skyline prior to getting any "tallest" in their repetoire.
You realize places like Chicago when they built their tallest it looked massively out of place being triple the height of everything around it, it takes time but the skyline would fill out just like what happened to Dubai, Chicago, and New York when they made their tallest
@@-OAK- Ok City Skyline is nothing like NYC, Chicago and cannot be compared to cities like Dubai. These cities gradually built their skylines up, not plunk a tall bldg. in an already small existing skyline whose economical standings barely scratch the surface
@@juicyfruit4378 you realize all of those cities built a skyscraper that was so much bigger than their surroundings and once after building that more skyscrapers came in, look at the sears tower in the 1970s it was the triple the size of everything around it, it wasn’t until after it was built skyscrapers started to be built, and Chicago has been on a decline in population for like 60 years, and it still grew its skyline so why is one of the fastest growing cities the country and the one said to have the most potential not capable of doing that. the Empire State in the 1930s was bigger than everything next to it now it’s average looking, the berj khalifa was literally built by absolutely nothing, less than there is in OKC, and once it was built sky scrapers in the area skyrocketed. Literally Dubai had waaaaaaaaayyy less towers than OKC in 2005 the reason it’s skyline is big is for building a tall tower. Almost every city that builds a tall tower like this gets a big skyline from it.
@@-OAK- In the case of Chicago and NYC, their skyline evolved much earlier and had numerous mid-level buildings before the larger ones arrived. Both cities, being the first and 3rd in the nation had and still possess much more economcal clout than OK City had back then to include the present times. In fact, OK City will not grow or "catch up" to either of them in the near or distant future. As previously stated, both NYC and Chicago's skylines grew steadily and not with sporadic tall buildings; rather it was gradual rise in skyscrapers not an intermittant or infrequent one like the building being propsed in OK City contrasting with the existing small and short skyline. A city's population trend, has no correlation to Ok City's proposed skyline; however, since you mentioned it, according to the UN and Fortune, the projected population grownt of US Cities growth for 2030 is as follows:
NYC, LA, Chicago, Houston, Dallas-Fort Worth (Metroplex), Miami, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Washington D.C. and Phoenix.
Source: www.newgeography.com/content/004464-un-projects-2030-us-urban-area-populations#:~:text=The%20Largest%20Cities%20in%202030&text=The%20top%2010%20would%20remain,of%20Phoenix%20is%20particularly%20impressive.
5 fastest-growing cities by population change
1. San Antonio - 21,970
2. Houston, - 21,365
3. Atlanta, Ga. - 12,052
4. Dallas - 11,669
5. Washington, D.C. - 8,023
NOTE: Oklahoma City ranked at 15 with 3,989.
Source: fortune.com/2024/05/16/fastest-growing-cities-2023-census-bureau/economy-USA/regional-353YzL4%top8
Again, irrelevant information as the city's economical clout is what generates it's skyline, due to property prices increase and employment, in turn, usually causing population growth. OK City property prices are amongst the cheapest in the US, and has much open space to grow outward versus upward. Also, the city does not contain one Major Fortune 500 Headquarter according to Forbes outside of Hobby Lobby.
Under the GAWC, OK City is listed under "Sufficient City" way below cities in it's regions like Dallas and Houstin which are listed as Beta +. These regional Beta cities draw away from OK City as their economical clout overshadows OK City to certain extents. Oneok is the first entry of any Fortune 500 Company in the state of Oklahoma ranking at 173 and it's located in Tulsa.
Source: www.50pros.com/fortune500
Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization_and_World_Cities_Research_Network
OK City will eventually build it's skyline gradually as most cities have done; however, back to the original topic and which most agreed to on this blog is that a large skyscraper of this size being built onto an existing small skyline looks disproportionate to a city that currently lacks the economical clout of it's much larger regional neighbors, let alone cities like NYC, LA, Chicago and has much land mass available at below-average cost in most urban areas across the USA to build outward versus upward.
Hope this helps.
@@juicyfruit4378 guess I’ll have to get back to this comment 10 years after the building is built to see who’s right
they should take the 134 floor tower proposal and divide them into two 67 story twin towers imo.
Gawd , he's probably right but damm, didn't he throw cold water on her report. 😮😮😮
Please take the title away from the freedum tower
I have my doubts this thing will be built; and even if it is, I doubt it'll reach the proposed height.
I hope I'm wrong though, this thing looks insane!
It will stick out like a sore thumb
NYC, LA and Chicago are old rotting cities and it's time for cities like Atlanta, Philly, Houston, Dallas, Miami, Austin and Charlotte to take the spotlight since everyone and their mother is moving to them. Go OKC even though the super tall tower will look awkward standing by itself.
It’s one thing to be proud of your city, but the dismissive attitude of these people is shocking. OKC is a vibrant and growing city, one of the largest in America. And yes, you can’t fill NYC buildings, that’s because everyone is moving to Oklahoma. Get ready to be second place.
Oklahoma was founded in 1907 that’s why it’s that tall
At least what i am proposing to my city is of reasonable height. 500 feer to the observation area and maybe 10 or 15 feet taller for the roof which would be the highest point.
It got a lot of traction after we approved the new arena
Lol,I thought this was a joke. Y'all serious,this is wild.
These comments are so funny literally butthurt people from all over the country acting like they know so much about OKC it’s going to be built wether you like it or not it may not be all 1,900 height but it will happen definitely for the other three mid size buildings too in the plan.
Such a tower would fit in the NYC skyline. I find it hard to believe people in OKC would be comfortable with such a monstrosity towering over their city. It would look so out of place.
Sears tower is taller!
The highest floor of this tower would be almost the same height as the freedom tower including its needle, so it would drawf the sears tower, not only that but there’s still the needle height that goes on this tower to make it 130+ feet taller than the freedom tower
Its a Real Sim City Omega Tower
Why would anyone build that tower in the middle of Nowhere!
Love to hear.
OKC is becoming the new NYC thanks to this.
Absolutely nothing special about the so-called Freedom Tower. Overpriced junk.
You forgot to mention man it looks like a giant hypodermic needle to me
That newscaster is soooooo negative. I am glad he is not on our team. lol
But, I do get not wanting to get everyone's hopes up.
~Sean of Detroit~
tower bout to be picked up and thrown into wonderland LOL
that is so stupid. okc??? that skyline would like ridiculous like it already does
Hope this is not taller than the freedom tower that resembles the US year and a tribute to the 9/11 victims
I think tall buildings are too dangerous
That sounds so cool to me. OKC is coming up.
I don't know why these other people from NY or Texas are upset about it, but whatever. My main concern with it would honestly be our tornadoes 🌪 lol
Hopefully this spurs the building of additional skyscrapers in OKC though, because one massive skyscraper all alone would look strange
I know OKC has some tall buildings like any city does, but nothing else THIS tall
@@coyotelong4349devon tower finally has a friend
@@coyotelong4349OKC doesn’t even have a thousand foot building. This would stick out for the next 300 years.
Because no one else is supposed to have Super talls and attention but them , Chicago, Miami and Atlanta, it’s called self centered.. get my drift my friend..🧐😂😜🏢📸
Coming up from what??? Poverty??
A supertall in tornado alley, scary.
It just goes to show that most of the Money ,but not all the Money isn't just in places Like Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, & Cincinnati Just to name a few
While NYC remains stagnant as far as physical development due to land restrictions, the rest of the country literally wants nothing to do with NYC. We forget it’s even part of our country. The rest of the US will evolve and grow, meanwhile the normal population will continue to live a far greater quality of life without the restrictions and costs of NYC.
Watch out this is not Dubai
The WTC is a chode, it’s ridiculously small compared to the real tall buildings of the world, but what can you do when nobody wants office space in a skyscraper anymore.