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For the record even L.A. doesn't have that much of a skyline compared to even mid-tier Canadian cities like Edmonton... Which has the tallest skyscraper outside Toronto in Canada... It's also Canada's fastest growing metro over the last 10 years topping even water-plagued Calgary... to quote Family Guy... "5's and 6's that's where the bargains are!" and I suspect places like Oklahoma City, Salt Lake and Orlando will continue to boom like E-town because of this! And plans for even taller towers including the 280m/900-ish foot tall Alldritt Tower and the long-stalled but not cancelled 280m Edmontonian which would rise at 101st and 105ave just north of Ice District where the 5-time Stanley Cup Champions, soon to be six, Oilers play... Which also hosts the Stantec Tower, which is that "tallest outside of Toronto" tower is built...
I love your videos, but your chart at 50 seconds in missed Philadelphia City Hall, which was both America’s and the world’s tallest sky scraper from 1894 until the Singer Tower in 1908 NYC (which would also have looked nice on that chart. As for the next video, it would be cool to see someone do a video about the Philadelphia City Hall, still the world’s tallest freemasonry building and the tallest municipal building (and overall, a really cool building).
@@marques9392 Oklahoma City has affordability and livability in a combo that is hard to beat. Housing in OKC is 1/5th the price of housing in New York or LA and half as much as other nearby cities such as Houston or Dallas. Detroit might be cheaper but the apocalyptic levels of crime and urban blight will keep most sane people away thus affecting livability. Safe and boring means a great place for normal people to settle down and raise a family. There aren't too many places like that anymore. The only other comparable cities would would Salt Lake City and Boise Idaho. There is such a housing shortage nationwide that a tower like this would thrive almost anywhere. People need housing and we not building nearly enough of it thanks to rampant NIMBY-ism. A city that actually wants to build things and isn't hostile to development is the city that has a bright future.
Why not? Canada's second tallest skyline is EDMONTON a city that's only the 5th and sometimes 6th largest metro in the nation... If you knew anything about economics the money is made from observation deck revenues. The taller? The more money it can bring in... The entire building like the Empire State Building could sit empty forever and it would still be profitable from the lift fees.. Bet you didn't know that! In fact, while you are educating yourself why not check out the PDF from SOM Skidmore Owings Merrill Architecture (who designed Chicago's Sears Tower) on the economics of skyscrapers called "This pays for THIS" where it lays out in laymans terms how skyscrapers are really financed. Also the other way? Loss leading "Signature Towers" that generate revenue from the rising values of nearby buildings that now have world class views... That's why middle eastern cities are obsessed with them... They know they don't need them space-wise... But they are there to anchor huge real estate district developments where middle-class aspirational luxury types will buy overpriced nearby units for the views and prestige of being next to the Burj Khalifa or 100 years ago until today? The Eiffel Tower...
I hope this happens cause Chicago and New York are gonna immediately respond with trying to build taller towers. It'll break the barrier for taller buildings to be built.
I’m sure that the builders would top out the building at 1907 feet and not the stated 1906. Their aim is to use the 1907 figure to memorialize the date of Oklahoma statehood.
The CTBUH requires a structure's «vanity height» (wikipedia) to be under 50% to be defined as a "building." Otherwise, it is considered a communications tower and ineligible for the rankings.
There has never been a direct hit to downtown since records have been kept. Manhattan had a more recent direct hit by a technical tornado than downtown OKC.
Fun fact, the top floor on the new One WTC is actually one hundred feet SHORTER in height, than the top floor of the original North Tower WTC. One WTC's top floor is approx 1260 feet high verses the original North Tower's top floor being approx 1360 feet high. One WTC's tower spiral that is used to "boost" its said height, is 2 times taller alone than the entire Statue of Liberty and its podium complex.
That isn’t actually true… One World Observatory is on floor 100-102 and it’s 1,268 feet high… but there is an extra 100 feet above from 2 more floors up to where the parapet around the roof is… they are actually the same height
It is a chicken or the egg kind of scenario as in what came first. If you want people to visit your city you have to give them a reason to visit. Building this tower is a step in that direction.
@@scottwood928yea but okc is a tornado magnet think of the 1999 bridge creek moore EF5 and the 2011 El Reno EF5 plus The 2013 El Reno EF3 Edit: El Reno And Moore Are Suburbs Of OKC making OKC a tornado magnet
It will be profitable. Observation deck fees... Empire State Building nets $100M each year from lift tickets at 50-100/piece... Office revenue? $10M... Enough said...
Also why this building only has 100K of office space.. That's maybe 10 floors... And that was lumped in with "commercial space" which could also include hotel ball rooms, retail, services, etc.
Same here, especially since my local city (Boston) has been slacking. Our tallest building (200 Claraden St) is only 790ft and has been the tallest building in Boston (and New England) since it was built in 1976, and we never topped it. Boston has too many height restrictions due to the airport and it's difficult to build anything over 800 ft.
@@Jon_Nadeau_ Boston has been far from slacking, The Celtics just beat my Mavs for goodness sakes lol...Congrats though. I just googled 200 Claraden and its a beautiful building. Here Dallas our tallest building is 921ft, was built in the early 80s and Its the 3rd tallest in Texas...Anyway Salute to the Celtics for being the better team this year. Have a blessed day.
@@earlitymeproductionz I was referring to the lack of high rise skyscrapers the Boston has built since the 60s/70s and after 50 years we are still not able to building anything higher and likely never will for quite some time. Obviously in the sports department Boston is still kicking ass but no one is talking sports here. lol
Living in Oklahoma and not far from OKC itself, this has to be one of the craziest things to happen in my lifetime. It seems as if it will be built and has a little to do with the new Thunder arena. I feel that it will have a casino in it somehow. If they make it an entertainment complex with a casino, they can make part of it into hotel rooms for guests making it a tourist destination.
I live 10 minutes from downtown, never even thought about the possibility of a casino in there. That would definitely help it thrive, giving it a Vegas feel.
I lived in downtown Chicago and now live in OKC because of family; I don’t think it’ll ever get built (especially if it depends on the success of phase I, the tower phase II is likely to be replaced by a smaller building or cxld altogether). Plus, it makes no economic sense.
@@tmz85 That is why I figure they will find a way to make the casino work. Parking will not be a problem as they can add it easily to where the planned building is to go. If they get a casino in it, it will be profitable like all other big casinos in Oklahoma. Having already secured the investors makes me think they will get the casino.
@tmz85 bro this is OKC not Chicago. We do it because we can. 😂😂😂😂 Welcome to Oklahoma love having you here. Now just chill and make money. Start a small business
A billion times over YES. I really fucking hate the "official" definition by the "official body" who defines building heights. They make ZERO sense. To the roof of the ACTUAL BUILDING. If you wanted a secondary height, go to the max height of the usable/livable space INSIDE the building (so to the ceiling of the highest floor). So ground floor... floor, to the roof and the top floor's ceiling.
That graph at 0:55 is pissing me off. The Petronas towers spires barely eek over the roof of the Sears tower... they do not tower over the Sears tower... side by side, most would assume the Sears was MUCH larger.
“We wanna build the next tallest building in America.” “Will you do it in New York, where many of America’s tallest buildings have been?” “Nope!” “What about San Francisco or Los Angeles, where there is an abundance of culture and media” “Hmm, nah” “Maybe in Chicago to rival the Sears Tower?” “we’re doing it in Oklahoma City” “…what” “we’re doing it in Oklahoma City”
I love the desolate empty lots in every POV of the tower. Is this going to be that lair where the final boss lives in every post apocalyptic video game?
For those ignorant about skyscraper economics? I suggest you read the Gensler PDF about how observation deck revenues often pay for skyscrapers ALONE starting way back with the Empty State Building as it was then known around NYC... The building wasn't popular with office tenants for decades, but it was a hit with the public as a tourist attraction from day one which not only paid off the building but literally kept the lights on. At the time of the report? The tower brought in $100M/year from lift tickets to the observation deck but only $10M/year from office leases.. That says all you need to know about the economics of all towers... The other revelation? Towers themselves can be loss leaders for developers IF they anchor larger real estate plays. Build a signature skyscraper and the public will climb over each other to buy units adjacent to or within site of the building and you can charge a healthy premium for these view-friendly apartments and make your money back and then some that way... This is why Jeddah, Dubai and all those other emerging cities only build one tall tower to anchor them with dozens of shorter more economical buildings next door where the profits are REALLY to be had...
Look you calling people dumb when we don’t know how they make money we just live this page however if you really wanna get to it what shops are going to be there again who cares about it observation decks? Look at the economy!?!? People can barley afford healthcare
Oklahoma City is in the heart of America, if Legends is built people will stop and pay to be on the top of the tallest building in the western hemisphere! There’s facts to support what @stickynorth said! Also, it is cheaper and would take less time to build a super tall in Oklahoma City than it is to in NYC or Chicago. One reason is density, traffic and how tight space is to have cranes, machinery, materials etc.
Hi - I do feasibility studies for real estate investors (banks, insurance companies, other lenders, government agencies, etc.) and while observation deck revenues can be a great add on, they don't justify the cost of a large office tower. If decks were a great revenue generator, there would be many more projects like the Space Needle in Seattle or the CN Tower in Toronto. The Legends Tower will likely cost (waaaaaaaaaaay) more than $1,000 PSF to build, and hotel room rates, condo/rental prices, and office/retail rents in OKC do not support that cost. The local government subsidies for the project ($200M is a lot of $$$) are still really unlikely to close the financial gap for this project. My prediction is Phase I gets built and then a scaled down version of the Tower is completed (hopefully within our lifetimes).
A lot of people, it being in a random location gives it a lot more attention than it would being in nyc or Chicago, for that reason it would be just as successful if it was in one of those cities, and it will draw more tourism than it would being in those cities
Spoiler alert: It's not from renting office space... Those NEVER make money... It's actually tourism dollars from rubes buying lift tickets to the observation deck... And even if the view is of relatively nothing, it doesn't matter... The fact you are xxx number of feet above the earth is a novelty cool enough to justify its existence... Why do you think every tall tower in NYC has one? If they weren't profitable they wouldn't build them... Simple as that... 30 Rock, Hudson Yards, Vanderbilt Tower, 1 WTC, Empire State Building are just the A-tier ones I can think of... Even Seattle has 2 main ones... Columbia Tower and Seattle Space Needle...
It was recently approved for an unlimited height, but knowing that, it won’t push the developers to go beyond the 1906 foot limit that they had already established.
Most of it would probably be cheaty spire anyway.. Not actual building height. Snap the spire off and the tower isn't that impressive even my mid-American standards... And I do mean MID...
If that tower is build then it sets a new standard for new incoming skyscrapers that megatalls in the US for the next decade. Yes, US will have megatalls and probably Canada too.
I hope they build the Hudson Spire in NYC all (on a different site of course). It is now considered a vision/proposed instead of never built/cancelled.
Toronto has 5 Super Talls under construction right now... Aka towers over 300m tall which is 984'... The CN Tower is already 1800' tall... I doubt that city will go taller than that because they have plateaued in many ways however Edmonton? I could see adding really tall towers for several reasons. One being the 2013 removal of the downtown airport and its height restrictions, the cities zoning which added density everywhere in the core and the fact it has the tallest tower in Canada outside Toronto already and plans for at least 2 towers pushing 300m already announced. Plus it's Canada's fastest and youngest growing major market and its flush with oil cash that will never run out unless the world stops using oil, which I pray it will.. Aka the Alberta Tar Sands are like an infinite money glitch that will continue to fund luxury real estate speculation booms for decades to come unless people go solar/wind/nuclear and drive EV's...
@@benwalter4842 I approve of almost all Supertall tower proposals... All but that FUGLY Manhattan Observation Tower that looks like a toilet plunger...
Maybe just maybe they should instead try to improve their Public Transport, create more bike lanss and make the city centre more walkable cause it currently isnt good enough Its all about priorities and their current priorities doesnt match what the City actually needs to grow
@@H0B0E @blackhole9961 If you watched the whole video, OKC is funding $200 million of the $1.5 billion skyscraper. Kansas City's Streetcar Extension will cost approx $300 million. You do the math.
You need to come Downtown. The city has already invested heavily in all that infrastructure. They've improved the mass transit system by adding Rapid Bus Routes, adding new bus lines, and expanding service hours. A new rapid rail line between Edmond, OKC, and Norman is going on the ballot soon. The bike infrastructure has been expanded all across the city, with new bike trails that run along the Oklahoma River that connects to other bike trails from all across the city. You can travel to every part of the city on bike without even touching a shared use road. The city has added bike lanes all over Downtown, Midtown and the Plaza district. Downtown Oklahoma City is one of the most walkable downtowns in the country after the city has invested tens of millions in infrastructure to make the city more walkable. The city has invested heavily in sidewalks all over the city in the last 10 years. Downtown, Midtown, Bricktown, Deep Duce, and the Plaza District are highly walkable. These are precisely the reasons these investors are considering building a super tall in OKC. the city has already been investing heavily in everything you're criticizing it for.
Sorry if this is offensive lol, BUT OKLOHOMA OUT OF EVERY STATE THEY COULDVE CHOSEN. OKLOHOMA, YALL DONT EVEN HAVE MOUNTAINS, HOW DO YOU LIVE YOUR DAILY LIFE WITHOUT MOUNTAINS. AND PLUS ITS UGLY ASF, THEY COULDVE CHOSEN NEW YORK, ILLINOIS, CALIFORNIA, OR AND OF THESE STATES🤦
@@HandsomeBaconBoi I do think they could have chosen a better place for it besides Oklahoma but it’s funny just having a building that tall in the middle of nowhere. And another note I can probably guess you are from Colorado from the mountains thing. Oklahoma does have mountains the most impressive being the wachita mountains but they are ok. But the comment is not offensive don’t worry
@@pancake21709That’s what I was thinking, you have all those smaller buildings and then this one building that’s just super tall 😂 also thanks for not taking that offensively, other people from Oklahoma might think differently. I’m actually not from Colorado, I’m the state right next to it though(I live in Utah. I can simply not live without mountains, I don’t know how you guys manage it lol. And Oklohoma city doesn’t have mountains, it’s other parts of oklohoma that do and even then, they are basically hills. But good luck honestly getting this very tall building built(not being sarcastic btw)
@@HandsomeBaconBoi sorry I thought you said no mountains in the state itself but yeah none in okc but sadly it seems like the project has not gotten much done and it’s been about a year
@@pancake21709It’s very hard to get all this money and a lot of the time it costs a lot more than you’d expect it to be. It seems like they would have everything planned out nicely, but it’s just generally hard for a city that doesn’t have nearly as much people and companies like a city like New York City or Chicago. I’ve done some research and it seems they start construction on October 24th. Correct me if I’m doing something wrong. But if you guys manage to get this all done, it will be very nice to have a new tallest building, especially for you guys in oklohoma.
*I’m actually at the Dream Hotel (Hyatt property) in *Hollywood* rn. I’m from LA native; just hosting a friend in town. It’s an absolutely stunning hotel. I would definitely fly out to *OKC* to stay at the new property when it’s built & I hope they build the tall skyscraper as well! 🙂 Great video
I interned for AO last summer, was kind of shocked to see this proposal considering they don’t do many high rise developments, however they were an amazing team and i have no doubt they’ll be able to pull it off.
I like this channel. While the video style is similar to The B1M, you actually realize that there are many Americans subscribed to the channel, and actually put the US Customary Unit equivalent next to the metric measurement on screen.
Mid nation/fly over cities are growing and offering more and more to its residential population. This seems odd today however it's a brilliant feather in what could become a future mega city. Plan for the tomorrow you want!
My thoughts exactly.. A grown up Devon Tower with a spire.. Bland? Yes, but I approve! It fits perfectly into the skyline and that's a clever design nod to its nearby formerly record-breaking neighbour...
For someone fascinated by stuff like this, your videos have been great for me! I love this stuff so thank you for bringing these videos to the masses. I've enjoyed watching and learning about these massive projects coming in the future. This building looks cool as heck, but a little out of place in OKC lol.
I live here in Oklahoma and have been watching our growth for quite some time. I am very excited to have a tower like this built in our capitol city. What an opportunity for more growth! Also, I didn't hear you mention the reason for the strange height measurement. 1907 feet tall represents the year Oklahoma entered statehood, 1907. Thanks for the great video.
They wont be able to lease/sell anywhere near enough apartments for the build to be profitable, the first phase sure, but the tower will end up not being built sadly, there just isn't a market for it
I don’t know a lot about Oklahoma, but don’t they have a ton of tornadoes? I feel like this could go from the tallest building in America to the longest building in America.
This is a nice skyscraper tower design. To build this proposed 1906ft tall building in Oklahoma City has me scratching my head. I'd have expected this building to have been built somewhere completely different, like Dallas or Houston... or somewhere like Los Angeles, Seattle, Boston, Philadelphia, New York City, Chicago, Charlotte, or Miami... or perhaps Atlanta. 🤔
@mikehawk4455 there is a lot of ppl moving to Oklahoma, especially people from places like California and Florida and other southern states and they love it
So what? So did Fort Worth, Dallas, Houston, Edmonton, even MIAMI have taken twisters to their city before... It's not as big a deal as you think besides flying glass.. Buildings rarely do what you think they will regardless of tragedy type...
I had heard a lot about how this build was supposedly supposed to include a new arena for the Thunder, too, as though the arena they have now is still very young, and in fantastic repair, it was built extremely bare bones, and the NBA has specific requirements for their teams to meet including within their arenas, thus why they claim they need a new one already. Another thing I want to note is that OKC already has one of the nation's tallest skyscrapers in whatever that 950+ one is downtown. No one believed that would work out or be mostly rented out either, but somehow, it was and still is, even despite massive commercial and office defaults and bankruptcies nation wide. So don't be surprised if somehow this does get built AND succeeds in achieving at least 50% lease by year 3 of it being open.
1 WTC is not actually 1776 ft high. If they had built it as designed, enclosed to the very top, it would be. Antennas should not count. They don't count on the Willis Tower (formerly Sears Tower).
The 1 WTC is actually 1776 feet facts over feelings. The One World Trade Center doesn't have an antenna it has a spire which aren't the same it has a spire which is part of the buildings structure. They don't count the Willis Tower’s antennas because they're antennas lmao the 1 WTC doesn't have an antenna it has a spire which is part of the buildings structure the antennas on the Willis Tower can be removed and aren't actually part of the building.
1000% Mid Chinese cities almost always have taller towers than that if you exclude cheaty spires... Even Edmonton which is Canada's 5/6th largest metro has an 826' tower crowning its skyline with developers planning at least 2-3 towers taller than the 900' mark... And we are Canada's Tornado Alley... I witnessed Edmonton '87 myself from under a half mile away... Also why I love/hate twisters... Like Jo from that movie back in the 1990's... ;-)
I live in Norman, OK. About 25 minutes from OKC downtown. It is very amazing that Norman is the 3rd largest city of Oklahoma at 130k people: OKC, Tulsa, Norman. I preface my feelings about this project. My concern is 2 fold: First, you will need enough people to fill the gigantic tower (and/ or proceeding towers) and second, Cramming that many people in a 1 mile by 1 mile space will cause extreme congestion on the roads. I feel that this is a "build it they will come" project and I am not convinced. With that all being said, It is pretty darn cool.
I saw an article where one of the architects at AO was asked about designing a skyscraper like this for a very tornado prone area. His exact words: "It's basically just a math problem." Just like unified field theory!
I hope that it gets built as planned so that it breaks the unofficial height limit in the U.S. and allows for other developers to feel comfortable building taller.
@@kylethompson3008 I think the hight of a building is irrelevant in that situation and the association in America between the two is paranoia caused by 9/11. If that makes any sense.
@@SkyHighCity I haven't expected an attack of that magnitude since then but none of us around back then really expected that to happen. I'm just saying it's good to be prepared for an emergency like that and nobody was because nobody thought of something like that happening until it already happened and it seems nobody is really fixing the issues in these skyscrapers that caused all those people to become trapped
I want to see another American skyscraper race with towers from L.A, SFO, Seattle, Denver, Chicago, New York City, Houston, Austin, Dallas and Miami all racing to compete... Others too like Oklahoma City or Atlanta since all have at least one tower that's 300m/984' tall or at least had serious proposals in the past for them that tall... Same here in Canada... Edmonton now allows for "unlimited height" downtown if desired. Right now the tallest built is only 253m/823' tall, the tallest proposed 300m/984' HOWEVER the rumoured "Signature Tower" for Ice District will be MUCH MUCH taller by all signs hinted at over the years... Hence why the site is being kept clear until the absolute last moment and is currently being used as a large fan zone concert venue and adult fun park for Edmonton Oilers fans during the Stanley Cup playoffs. Shania Twain played to like 30,000 the other day on the site as part of it...
Not a big fan of it being built in OKC but do think we need more modern skyscrapers here in the US. They don't have to be taller than the One World Trade Center though.
Im next door in Kansas, and theres a reason why nobody builds high up out in the plains. First of all, there is next to no demand for high-rises, mainly becuase land is cheaper to buy. Not to mention that there are still hundreds of cities small and big who’s downtowns are still mostly vacant. What about the wind problem? Since it is mostly alone in the skyline (another reason), nothing will be able to help somewhat soften their blows. Idk if it is factual or not, but there is usually a good gradient between short-medium-high rises.
If some of the worlds tallest buildings can be build in japan “we have massive earthquakes every few months” a building this tall can be build there. Part of the point in a project like this is said space suddenly becomes the most valuable in the city. Prestige space
@@kylethompson3008 Tell that to the residents of Lockerbie when the Pan Am flight 103 747 crashed onto their village thanks to a bomb in the luggage. You can either hide in your single storey hut shaking like a leaf or live like a man without fear in whatever way you choose. Also, not letting naughty people aboard the plane in the 1st place also helps.
@s3p4kner RIP to those victims as well. There was not that many on the ground, though, compared to the death trap that was the twin towers. If there's no way to rescue people, it should not be built
There is a building in NYC that is considerably taller than the 1 WTC - to roof height, which is in my opinion the true height mark. Central Park Tower is 472 meters tall to the roof (1548 feet), 1 WTC is 417 meters tall to the roof (1368 feet). You do the math. Including the antenna masts height in the overall measurement of the height of a skyscraper is bonkers!
As a geography nerd, I'm very proud of myself for knowing it was Oklahoma City before you revealed it based off the other skyscraper in the 3D renders shown at the start :D
One world trade tower isn't the tallest even in new York, all those towers in billionaire row have way higher roof height. The antenna is a cheap looking thing completely different from the original version.
@@HouseOfValsburg only by name, it look awful and has no decorative features like proper spires, and as the roof is same as original towers its still 1368feet , look at the beautiful Chrysler building now that is a proper spire.
Some of the critics are missing something. If you want to build to improve your economy, you need to build to support the incoming economy. To build the support for the economy, you need to build the economy. You have to start the circle somewhere. Another thing is to look at Oklahoma City itself. Tinker Airforce base is there. You have several interstate highways meet here both north/south and east/west. It is a great hub city. Many chain stores have warehouses here. Will Rogers airport is looking to expand and offer direct international flights. And let's not forget the OKC Thunder.
Fun fact: Dubai first got rich of the oil(obviously), but the population only started to soar AFTER the Burj Khalifa was completed. That alone gave so much tourism that it propelled the entire city to being a major center So yes, a similar thing can absolutely happen in Oklahoma. OKC is already one of the fastest growing large cities in the US
They cancelled one of these tall skyscrapers in Denver a few years ago, sadly. To look at the Denver skyline, it looks like they are all too scared to go higher than fifty or sixty stories tall (I do remember reading about how it is generally only profitable to have sixty or so floors, so anything after that wasn't as worth it, something to that effect. Not sure if that is true). It would be neat to have one really tall, signature tower in our skyline. I'm all for a nice 'scraper in Oklahoma instead of one of the big cities for once. A building like that would be a signature for the city, like the cash register skyscraper we have in Denver, only Oklahoma's would be harder to ignore, and more fun to go to the upper floors and see the view. Just my two cents. Who says there has to be x number of other tall buildings around it? I like skyscrapers, as long as they aren't too odd, like the proposed "leaning stacked blocks" design of World Trade Center Two in New York. They had a great initial "diamond top" design, only to go to this weird, leaning thing.
@@RandyRydberg Some better low to midrise density around Coors Field would be great, that area looks like a weird flat spot. That IMO is just as important as supertalls, because honestly, when you're walking down the street, you're never really looking up beyond the first few floors anyway.
@@michlo3393 I think they are replacing the big parking lots for Ball with developments, and maybe Elichs is moving. That would be where some buildings might go.
Basing the megatall's construction on the housing portion makes sense. They're going to need cash flow to provide more funds for the Legends Tower. I'd also add construction costs are much lower in OKC than NYC or Chicago. If the economy has a downturn, they could reduce the height. Most of the upper floors are standard as to shape and floorspace.
Minneapolis built IDS tower (Philip Johnson AIA) in early 70s w/ a 1.5 million metro area population - that worked; I don't see why Legends Tower won't work here
you’re forgetting that it’s almost double the height and cost for a city that has no major population boom. the whole metro area is about the population of the CITIES of minneapolis and st. paul combined
i know the bldg . . . it's called the 'hearfullness ctr,' a tall black latitidinous form w/some sort of yellow diamond on top, but diagonally; so tipped on it's side. if that makes sense. some sort of thing like "nostalgia incorporated," that this bldg would be..
This seems like a boondoggle. You can’t build a tall building and expect that to do all your work for you in terms of getting people to come and visit/live in your city. The reason NYC/Chicago became so successful is because they are ports and major import hubs. They had a century/centuries of being major hubs for trade, commerce, immigtation and and manufacturing before building their tall buildings. They were centers of stock exchanges, culture, wealth, and media. I am sure that OKC is a lovely place to live but you have to have those things going for you before a vanity project like the tallest building in the hemisphere will make sense. You have to have something besides the tower for people to see and experience for them to want to stick around. Otherwise you will get what happens in a lot of these cities: a tiny empty downtown surrounded by sprawling suburbs.
OKC has a decent downtown for tourism. A riverwalk lined with restaurants and nightclubs, a riversports adventure park with whitewater rafting, a ropes course, slides and ziplines, an indoor rock climbing area built into old grain silo's. A few miles out and there is a water park. Some people may want to visit the OKC Bombing Memorial and museum as well. So it's not necessarily great for a week + vacation, it's a fun little weekend trip for sure. The downtown area is usually pretty busy on the weekend weather depending.
I would be interesting if this tend spreads to similar skyline changes. Another city to "tower" above it's old Skyline recently was Edmonton, Canada which built a 251m tall skyscraper that surpassed the city's previous tallest by 100m. Though I'm talking about a city that is larger than OKC. The real issue for a city like Edmonton isn't size, or economy. But how far north it is, the Shadow cast by a 500m building during the winter would cover tens of thousands of residents. Calgary, for example, has a Height limit to keep the building shadows from disrupting fish in the river. Down in Oklahoma, the shadow isn't as big of an issue. One interesting phenomenon that occurs with the Stantec Tower is that it during inversions the temperature on the roof can be as high as 60F while the street level is sub zero. A fairly common winter occurrence that is a major contributor to smog buildup during the winter. So if Edmonton could do the same as OKC is with Legends, and build it's own 580m tall building, an array of rooftop terraces and baloneys can be set up as retreats from the winter cold. Up in the warm inversion layer half a kilometer above the frozen streets below.
@@stickynorthyes it will be far from Devon tower and will make Devon tower tiny. While making the rest of the skyscrapers micro. The OKC skyline is already as strange as it is and the Legends tower will make it even more odd.
The World Trade Center is actually a 1368 foot building (same as the destroyed Tower 1) with a 400 foot pole on top. Great building, but not even the tallest in NYC, much less the country. So how tall is this building without the antenna? If it is not going to be constructed in the first phase of the project, I think it highly unlikely it ever will be. I hope I'm wrong.
The One World Trade Center is not “actually 1368 feet tall.” lmao learn architecture the current One World Trade Center is 1776 feet tall it’s spire counts it is part of the building structure as defined by the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitats. Your opinion doesn't matter lmao maybe learn architecture facts over feelings the One World Trade Center is 100% the tallest building in NYC and the US facts don't care about your opinion
I live in north Texas and travel to OKC now and then. OKC is such a wreck. It's infrastructure is terrible, many neighborhoods are blighted, and frankly, ordinary people don't care much about great projects. OKC has so many needs (apart from all the casinos there and spread out across the state). If built, it could turn out to be OKC's version of North Korea's boondoggle Ryugyong Hotel.
People are pretty ignorant to OKC. There’s a lot under construction in the state that’s expected to ramp up tourism here lol. We got some nice bars and clubs here too. Are we glamorous? No but it’s not a bad weekend trip and I know several people that visit Okc BECAUSE of the thunder lol
What do you think, will the Legends Tower really become America‘s next tallest skyscraper? 🤔
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For the record even L.A. doesn't have that much of a skyline compared to even mid-tier Canadian cities like Edmonton... Which has the tallest skyscraper outside Toronto in Canada... It's also Canada's fastest growing metro over the last 10 years topping even water-plagued Calgary... to quote Family Guy... "5's and 6's that's where the bargains are!" and I suspect places like Oklahoma City, Salt Lake and Orlando will continue to boom like E-town because of this! And plans for even taller towers including the 280m/900-ish foot tall Alldritt Tower and the long-stalled but not cancelled 280m Edmontonian which would rise at 101st and 105ave just north of Ice District where the 5-time Stanley Cup Champions, soon to be six, Oilers play... Which also hosts the Stantec Tower, which is that "tallest outside of Toronto" tower is built...
For your next video, Could you make a documentary on the ''Green Float'' City Initiative? (Suggestion)
I love your videos, but your chart at 50 seconds in missed Philadelphia City Hall, which was both America’s and the world’s tallest sky scraper from 1894 until the Singer Tower in 1908 NYC (which would also have looked nice on that chart.
As for the next video, it would be cool to see someone do a video about the Philadelphia City Hall, still the world’s tallest freemasonry building and the tallest municipal building (and overall, a really cool building).
Yeah other than the thunder what does Oklahoma City have?
@@marques9392 Oklahoma City has affordability and livability in a combo that is hard to beat. Housing in OKC is 1/5th the price of housing in New York or LA and half as much as other nearby cities such as Houston or Dallas. Detroit might be cheaper but the apocalyptic levels of crime and urban blight will keep most sane people away thus affecting livability. Safe and boring means a great place for normal people to settle down and raise a family. There aren't too many places like that anymore. The only other comparable cities would would Salt Lake City and Boise Idaho. There is such a housing shortage nationwide that a tower like this would thrive almost anywhere. People need housing and we not building nearly enough of it thanks to rampant NIMBY-ism. A city that actually wants to build things and isn't hostile to development is the city that has a bright future.
i hope they build it because oklahoma city having the tallest skyscraper in America sounds hilarious
imagine if they built it in ohio...
That and fuck the so called "experts" always hating
Why not? Canada's second tallest skyline is EDMONTON a city that's only the 5th and sometimes 6th largest metro in the nation... If you knew anything about economics the money is made from observation deck revenues. The taller? The more money it can bring in... The entire building like the Empire State Building could sit empty forever and it would still be profitable from the lift fees.. Bet you didn't know that! In fact, while you are educating yourself why not check out the PDF from SOM Skidmore Owings Merrill Architecture (who designed Chicago's Sears Tower) on the economics of skyscrapers called "This pays for THIS" where it lays out in laymans terms how skyscrapers are really financed. Also the other way? Loss leading "Signature Towers" that generate revenue from the rising values of nearby buildings that now have world class views... That's why middle eastern cities are obsessed with them... They know they don't need them space-wise... But they are there to anchor huge real estate district developments where middle-class aspirational luxury types will buy overpriced nearby units for the views and prestige of being next to the Burj Khalifa or 100 years ago until today? The Eiffel Tower...
@@z0phi3l facts 🔥🔥🔥
Haha, I want it built for that reason! It will be so strange, but maybe it can start more skyscraper construction there.
The tallest building in america being in oklahoma city is funny asf 🤣
It would also be one of the tallest buildings in the world.
@@AL-lh2ht It would be the 6th tallest building in the world
It won't happen..
@@tjtreinen7381 I don't think it will either but good luck to them.
@@tjtreinen7381It is happening. It’s already been approved
I hope this happens cause Chicago and New York are gonna immediately respond with trying to build taller towers. It'll break the barrier for taller buildings to be built.
i think new york has a rule that says building taller than the One world trade centre is prohibited
@@thom0243 it's unwritten rule, but I don't think they'd let their egoes be challenged like that
@thom0243 also for all intents and purposes, central park tower is taller than the one world trade center. That "spire" is an antenna.
Chicago ain't even part of the U.S anymore 😒
@@jimoconnor6382
Uh, what?
I’m sure that the builders would top out the building at 1907 feet and not the stated 1906. Their aim is to use the 1907 figure to memorialize the date of Oklahoma statehood.
It's a kind of cheating using an antenna to increase the height of buildings 😅. The height should be the usable parts
There are normally several lists which contain tallest occupied floors…but I agree with your sentiment
The CTBUH requires a structure's «vanity height» (wikipedia) to be under 50% to be defined as a "building." Otherwise, it is considered a communications tower and ineligible for the rankings.
I guess burj khalifa will be smol then
Antennas aren't "usable" ?
@@williamafendya2527 They're not occupiable.
Reminds me of the super talls in the Middle East out in the middle of nowhere
By “out in the middle of near where” you mean their largest and most populated cities.
@@AL-lh2htDubai has absolutely zero history
@@MattNewsome28 racist as hell and a straight up lie. Good job!
@@MattNewsome28 That's a extremely racist statement and easy to verify as a obvious lie.
@@MattNewsome28 what a racccisst statement.
4:08 Ah yes. Let's build the tallest skyscraper in America, in a city dead centered in tornado alley and is suseptible to multiple EF5 twisters.
They all go south into Moore anyways, so it'll be safe 🫣
Tornadoes don’t usually go to downtown areas of cities
There has never been a direct hit to downtown since records have been kept. Manhattan had a more recent direct hit by a technical tornado than downtown OKC.
Fun fact, the top floor on the new One WTC is actually one hundred feet SHORTER in height, than the top floor of the original North Tower WTC. One WTC's top floor is approx 1260 feet high verses the original North Tower's top floor being approx 1360 feet high. One WTC's tower spiral that is used to "boost" its said height, is 2 times taller alone than the entire Statue of Liberty and its podium complex.
@richh650 nice to hear that. I thought they put the roof height the same as original at 1362 feet
The sears tower building itself is also taller than the building of the one WTC
@@owenklein1917Central Park tower has a higher occupied floor than the sears tower. Tallest building and highest occupied floor are both in New York
It’s 1,362 feet.
That isn’t actually true… One World Observatory is on floor 100-102 and it’s 1,268 feet high… but there is an extra 100 feet above from 2 more floors up to where the parapet around the roof is… they are actually the same height
Never in my life have I heard anyone say, “I’d love to visit Oklahoma City.”
What a pity for you! I'd never visit a Red State yet half the nation lives there... Go figure...
Yeah because it’s a horrible place
@@parker23148have you ever been here lol. It’s actually really nice place lol.
No but that could change in a decade with all the stuff getting built around here
It is a chicken or the egg kind of scenario as in what came first. If you want people to visit your city you have to give them a reason to visit. Building this tower is a step in that direction.
Can we just talk about how they are trying to put it in the heart of tornado alley 😂
they design it to withstand strong winds. It is not made of cardboard. They build tall skyscrapers in LA and SF, which are in earthquake zones.
@@scottwood928yea but okc is a tornado magnet think of the 1999 bridge creek moore EF5 and the 2011 El Reno EF5 plus The 2013 El Reno EF3 Edit: El Reno And Moore Are Suburbs Of OKC making OKC a tornado magnet
@@JayIsAKnicksFan1 developers are not going to spend a billion dollars to build a skyscraper that falls over in a storm.
@@scottwood928but thats exactly what they're doing...
Remember the tornado that hit downtown Atlanta, y’all dumb asf
The best part about a tower this size in OKC is you can see tornadoes coming in for miles.
I wanna see an F10 tornado vs this tower 😂
@@CheveraChino F10 tornado very real!!11
I'm just a sucker for skyscrapers. I just want more, even though they might not be profitable or useful lol.
It will be profitable. Observation deck fees... Empire State Building nets $100M each year from lift tickets at 50-100/piece... Office revenue? $10M... Enough said...
Also why this building only has 100K of office space.. That's maybe 10 floors... And that was lumped in with "commercial space" which could also include hotel ball rooms, retail, services, etc.
Same here, especially since my local city (Boston) has been slacking. Our tallest building (200 Claraden St) is only 790ft and has been the tallest building in Boston (and New England) since it was built in 1976, and we never topped it. Boston has too many height restrictions due to the airport and it's difficult to build anything over 800 ft.
@@Jon_Nadeau_ Boston has been far from slacking, The Celtics just beat my Mavs for goodness sakes lol...Congrats though. I just googled 200 Claraden and its a beautiful building. Here Dallas our tallest building is 921ft, was built in the early 80s and Its the 3rd tallest in Texas...Anyway Salute to the Celtics for being the better team this year. Have a blessed day.
@@earlitymeproductionz I was referring to the lack of high rise skyscrapers the Boston has built since the 60s/70s and after 50 years we are still not able to building anything higher and likely never will for quite some time. Obviously in the sports department Boston is still kicking ass but no one is talking sports here. lol
Living in Oklahoma and not far from OKC itself, this has to be one of the craziest things to happen in my lifetime. It seems as if it will be built and has a little to do with the new Thunder arena. I feel that it will have a casino in it somehow. If they make it an entertainment complex with a casino, they can make part of it into hotel rooms for guests making it a tourist destination.
I live 10 minutes from downtown, never even thought about the possibility of a casino in there. That would definitely help it thrive, giving it a Vegas feel.
I lived in downtown Chicago and now live in OKC because of family; I don’t think it’ll ever get built (especially if it depends on the success of phase I, the tower phase II is likely to be replaced by a smaller building or cxld altogether). Plus, it makes no economic sense.
@@tmz85 That is why I figure they will find a way to make the casino work. Parking will not be a problem as they can add it easily to where the planned building is to go. If they get a casino in it, it will be profitable like all other big casinos in Oklahoma. Having already secured the investors makes me think they will get the casino.
@@tmz85you don't make economic sense.
@tmz85 bro this is OKC not Chicago. We do it because we can. 😂😂😂😂
Welcome to Oklahoma love having you here. Now just chill and make money. Start a small business
In my eyes, One WTC is 1,368FT tall. Rooftops should be the official height instead of antennas/spire.
YES!!!!! 100% THANK YOU! I hate cheaty spires!
Even if rooftop height was the standard for measuring height, legends tower would still be taller than WTC.
@@jdelong1847 Maybe but Central Park Tower would still be higher at 500m vs 450m for 1WTC who has 91m antenna...
A billion times over YES. I really fucking hate the "official" definition by the "official body" who defines building heights. They make ZERO sense. To the roof of the ACTUAL BUILDING. If you wanted a secondary height, go to the max height of the usable/livable space INSIDE the building (so to the ceiling of the highest floor). So ground floor... floor, to the roof and the top floor's ceiling.
The WTC is 1776ft tall to reference Independence day
That graph at 0:55 is pissing me off. The Petronas towers spires barely eek over the roof of the Sears tower... they do not tower over the Sears tower... side by side, most would assume the Sears was MUCH larger.
I TOTALLY AGREE ON THAT ITS A TOTAL CHEATING BUILDING AND THAT GRAPH IS B.S IT PISSES ME OFF TOO
AND THAT FREEDOM TOWER IS A CHEATING B.S TOWER
THAT GRAPH IS BULL S***
“We wanna build the next tallest building in America.”
“Will you do it in New York, where many of America’s tallest buildings have been?”
“Nope!”
“What about San Francisco or Los Angeles, where there is an abundance of culture and media”
“Hmm, nah”
“Maybe in Chicago to rival the Sears Tower?”
“we’re doing it in Oklahoma City”
“…what”
“we’re doing it in Oklahoma City”
I want to cry at this point 😭
I love the desolate empty lots in every POV of the tower. Is this going to be that lair where the final boss lives in every post apocalyptic video game?
Naw, they'll be used for surface parking, maybe even a few garages. There is approximately zero transit infrastructure in OKC.
imagine the breathtaking views from their observation deck, hahaha
@@meberg500 I live in OKC. I can confirm
@@Job0121 Prairie! as far as the eye can see!!
Hi Megabuilds, I am a new subscriber since 3 days ago. Your videos are very good.
For those ignorant about skyscraper economics? I suggest you read the Gensler PDF about how observation deck revenues often pay for skyscrapers ALONE starting way back with the Empty State Building as it was then known around NYC... The building wasn't popular with office tenants for decades, but it was a hit with the public as a tourist attraction from day one which not only paid off the building but literally kept the lights on. At the time of the report? The tower brought in $100M/year from lift tickets to the observation deck but only $10M/year from office leases.. That says all you need to know about the economics of all towers... The other revelation? Towers themselves can be loss leaders for developers IF they anchor larger real estate plays. Build a signature skyscraper and the public will climb over each other to buy units adjacent to or within site of the building and you can charge a healthy premium for these view-friendly apartments and make your money back and then some that way... This is why Jeddah, Dubai and all those other emerging cities only build one tall tower to anchor them with dozens of shorter more economical buildings next door where the profits are REALLY to be had...
Look you calling people dumb when we don’t know how they make money we just live this page however if you really wanna get to it what shops are going to be there again who cares about it observation decks? Look at the economy!?!? People can barley afford healthcare
Except Oklahoma City basically has nothing worth viewing from an observation deck lol
Oklahoma City is in the heart of America, if Legends is built people will stop and pay to be on the top of the tallest building in the western hemisphere! There’s facts to support what @stickynorth said! Also, it is cheaper and would take less time to build a super tall in Oklahoma City than it is to in NYC or Chicago. One reason is density, traffic and how tight space is to have cranes, machinery, materials etc.
Hi - I do feasibility studies for real estate investors (banks, insurance companies, other lenders, government agencies, etc.) and while observation deck revenues can be a great add on, they don't justify the cost of a large office tower. If decks were a great revenue generator, there would be many more projects like the Space Needle in Seattle or the CN Tower in Toronto. The Legends Tower will likely cost (waaaaaaaaaaay) more than $1,000 PSF to build, and hotel room rates, condo/rental prices, and office/retail rents in OKC do not support that cost. The local government subsidies for the project ($200M is a lot of $$$) are still really unlikely to close the financial gap for this project. My prediction is Phase I gets built and then a scaled down version of the Tower is completed (hopefully within our lifetimes).
@@NutritionPolice Neither does dubai
I think it is a publicity stunt. Who or what companies are going to rent space in this skyscraper?
Apparently it has already gotten funding and local approval
A lot of people, it being in a random location gives it a lot more attention than it would being in nyc or Chicago, for that reason it would be just as successful if it was in one of those cities, and it will draw more tourism than it would being in those cities
These people learned nothing from 9/11. Stop building death traps
You don't know how skyscrapers actually make money do you?
Spoiler alert: It's not from renting office space... Those NEVER make money... It's actually tourism dollars from rubes buying lift tickets to the observation deck... And even if the view is of relatively nothing, it doesn't matter... The fact you are xxx number of feet above the earth is a novelty cool enough to justify its existence... Why do you think every tall tower in NYC has one? If they weren't profitable they wouldn't build them... Simple as that... 30 Rock, Hudson Yards, Vanderbilt Tower, 1 WTC, Empire State Building are just the A-tier ones I can think of... Even Seattle has 2 main ones... Columbia Tower and Seattle Space Needle...
It was recently approved for an unlimited height, but knowing that, it won’t push the developers to go beyond the 1906 foot limit that they had already established.
Most of it would probably be cheaty spire anyway.. Not actual building height. Snap the spire off and the tower isn't that impressive even my mid-American standards... And I do mean MID...
@@stickynorth”most” You may need to double check your maths. Even without it, it would be taller than anything in “mid” America
The building surely looks futuristic.
I like it, it looks like the neon 'American Art Deco' architecture, but Futuristic 👍
If that tower is build then it sets a new standard for new incoming skyscrapers that megatalls in the US for the next decade.
Yes, US will have megatalls and probably Canada too.
I hope they build the Hudson Spire in NYC all (on a different site of course). It is now considered a vision/proposed instead of never built/cancelled.
Toronto has 5 Super Talls under construction right now... Aka towers over 300m tall which is 984'... The CN Tower is already 1800' tall... I doubt that city will go taller than that because they have plateaued in many ways however Edmonton? I could see adding really tall towers for several reasons. One being the 2013 removal of the downtown airport and its height restrictions, the cities zoning which added density everywhere in the core and the fact it has the tallest tower in Canada outside Toronto already and plans for at least 2 towers pushing 300m already announced. Plus it's Canada's fastest and youngest growing major market and its flush with oil cash that will never run out unless the world stops using oil, which I pray it will.. Aka the Alberta Tar Sands are like an infinite money glitch that will continue to fund luxury real estate speculation booms for decades to come unless people go solar/wind/nuclear and drive EV's...
@@benwalter4842 I approve of almost all Supertall tower proposals... All but that FUGLY Manhattan Observation Tower that looks like a toilet plunger...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/740_Eighth_Avenue WOOF! And that's the cleaned up/toned down/approved version. Better than the OG, but still...
Toronto is just topping off a 105 tower yes built it and they will come
@1:16 thats my office on the right!
Good4u
Maybe just maybe they should instead try to improve their Public Transport, create more bike lanss and make the city centre more walkable cause it currently isnt good enough
Its all about priorities and their current priorities doesnt match what the City actually needs to grow
Its not a city build scyscraper
What does that have to do with a private company building a skyscraper?
@@H0B0E @blackhole9961
If you watched the whole video, OKC is funding $200 million of the $1.5 billion skyscraper.
Kansas City's Streetcar Extension will cost approx $300 million. You do the math.
You need to come Downtown. The city has already invested heavily in all that infrastructure. They've improved the mass transit system by adding Rapid Bus Routes, adding new bus lines, and expanding service hours. A new rapid rail line between Edmond, OKC, and Norman is going on the ballot soon.
The bike infrastructure has been expanded all across the city, with new bike trails that run along the Oklahoma River that connects to other bike trails from all across the city. You can travel to every part of the city on bike without even touching a shared use road. The city has added bike lanes all over Downtown, Midtown and the Plaza district.
Downtown Oklahoma City is one of the most walkable downtowns in the country after the city has invested tens of millions in infrastructure to make the city more walkable. The city has invested heavily in sidewalks all over the city in the last 10 years. Downtown, Midtown, Bricktown, Deep Duce, and the Plaza District are highly walkable.
These are precisely the reasons these investors are considering building a super tall in OKC. the city has already been investing heavily in everything you're criticizing it for.
Buddy, this is private investment. Not a public project.
As a Oklahoman ( yes we are real ) I think the tower is a cool idea
Sorry if this is offensive lol, BUT OKLOHOMA OUT OF EVERY STATE THEY COULDVE CHOSEN. OKLOHOMA, YALL DONT EVEN HAVE MOUNTAINS, HOW DO YOU LIVE YOUR DAILY LIFE WITHOUT MOUNTAINS. AND PLUS ITS UGLY ASF, THEY COULDVE CHOSEN NEW YORK, ILLINOIS, CALIFORNIA, OR AND OF THESE STATES🤦
@@HandsomeBaconBoi I do think they could have chosen a better place for it besides Oklahoma but it’s funny just having a building that tall in the middle of nowhere. And another note I can probably guess you are from Colorado from the mountains thing. Oklahoma does have mountains the most impressive being the wachita mountains but they are ok. But the comment is not offensive don’t worry
@@pancake21709That’s what I was thinking, you have all those smaller buildings and then this one building that’s just super tall 😂 also thanks for not taking that offensively, other people from Oklahoma might think differently. I’m actually not from Colorado, I’m the state right next to it though(I live in Utah. I can simply not live without mountains, I don’t know how you guys manage it lol. And Oklohoma city doesn’t have mountains, it’s other parts of oklohoma that do and even then, they are basically hills. But good luck honestly getting this very tall building built(not being sarcastic btw)
@@HandsomeBaconBoi sorry I thought you said no mountains in the state itself but yeah none in okc but sadly it seems like the project has not gotten much done and it’s been about a year
@@pancake21709It’s very hard to get all this money and a lot of the time it costs a lot more than you’d expect it to be. It seems like they would have everything planned out nicely, but it’s just generally hard for a city that doesn’t have nearly as much people and companies like a city like New York City or Chicago. I’ve done some research and it seems they start construction on October 24th. Correct me if I’m doing something wrong. But if you guys manage to get this all done, it will be very nice to have a new tallest building, especially for you guys in oklohoma.
I would love to see this happen!
As a transplant to Ok 12 years ago, this is exciting! And would home me closer to OU Medical Center. 😊
*I’m actually at the Dream Hotel (Hyatt property) in *Hollywood* rn. I’m from LA native; just hosting a friend in town. It’s an absolutely stunning hotel. I would definitely fly out to *OKC* to stay at the new property when it’s built & I hope they build the tall skyscraper as well! 🙂 Great video
I love hearing about this project here first, instead of one of the other construction channels - great job finding this project!
OKC will make good use of this skyscraper. After it’s built, the city will still have a shortage of hotel rooms and housing so this is needed
I interned for AO last summer, was kind of shocked to see this proposal considering they don’t do many high rise developments, however they were an amazing team and i have no doubt they’ll be able to pull it off.
I'm all for it. I hope that it can withstand earthquakes and tornadoes.
I like this channel. While the video style is similar to The B1M, you actually realize that there are many Americans subscribed to the channel, and actually put the US Customary Unit equivalent next to the metric measurement on screen.
Love it - I wish OKC luck.
Hey Regis! Can’t believe one of my favorite CCVs has such a great TH-cam channel :) Congrats! Hope you’re doing well 🙏
This skyscraper looks cool asf
Mid nation/fly over cities are growing and offering more and more to its residential population. This seems odd today however it's a brilliant feather in what could become a future mega city. Plan for the tomorrow you want!
0:28 I THOUGHT that smaller one looked like the Devon Tower! A video about Oklahoma?! LET'S GOOOO!!!!! I've lived in Oklahoma all my life :D
My thoughts exactly.. A grown up Devon Tower with a spire.. Bland? Yes, but I approve! It fits perfectly into the skyline and that's a clever design nod to its nearby formerly record-breaking neighbour...
For someone fascinated by stuff like this, your videos have been great for me! I love this stuff so thank you for bringing these videos to the masses. I've enjoyed watching and learning about these massive projects coming in the future. This building looks cool as heck, but a little out of place in OKC lol.
I hope they build this skyscraper
Most normal moment moment in oklahoma, making the next tallest building in america
The way I see it, the Willis tower (previously the sears tower) is taller than the one world trade center
still wouldnt be the tallest building in america even without counting spires
I live here in Oklahoma and have been watching our growth for quite some time. I am very excited to have a tower like this built in our capitol city. What an opportunity for more growth! Also, I didn't hear you mention the reason for the strange height measurement. 1907 feet tall represents the year Oklahoma entered statehood, 1907.
Thanks for the great video.
This is just a dumb and pointless ego exercise. The only US cities that can support and justify a project like this is, as mentioned, NYC or Chicago.
They wont be able to lease/sell anywhere near enough apartments for the build to be profitable, the first phase sure, but the tower will end up not being built sadly, there just isn't a market for it
I agree I live here in Oklahoma City and the downtown area is no where near occupied to meet the demand. Although I really hope it does
I do hope they build it and it works like the Burj Khalifa has done for Dubai.
turning oklahoma city into basically Chicago sounds like a hilarious idea and I'm all for it
Sears tower is still the best sky scraper in my opinion and I don’t care what anyone says it’s taller than the freedom tower
You’re not American then
@@TheUncleSpiderX your right I’m a not from America I’m from Chicago
@@natevart4156 Greetings from Sydney NSW: Bob's your uncle!
@ what
I don’t know a lot about Oklahoma, but don’t they have a ton of tornadoes? I feel like this could go from the tallest building in America to the longest building in America.
If you build it, they will come! Hell I would go see it and I’ve never said in my life “let’s take a vacation trip to Oklahoma”
Tell that to the Chinese who brought apartments in the empty ghost cities
Oklahoma is a great place youll like it and idk why people that never been here make it seem so bad,
@@The.Adventures.of.Alexander I live in Oklahoma, there's not much here lol thats why
@@krackerlackin i live here too, born and raised in okc, and it's tons to do and more stuff popping up every month
Yay a video uploaded more regularly ❤❤
I thought the plan was 1907 feet high, representing the year Oklahoma was admitted into statehood.
I thought so too! Makes sense to me! Symbolic cheaty spire and cheaty height...
It is. The creator just didn’t do their research there
This is a nice skyscraper tower design. To build this proposed 1906ft tall building in Oklahoma City has me scratching my head.
I'd have expected this building to have been built somewhere completely different, like Dallas or Houston... or somewhere like Los Angeles, Seattle, Boston, Philadelphia, New York City, Chicago, Charlotte, or Miami... or perhaps Atlanta.
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OK city is a very affordable place to live. That's why it's growing. You can get a mansion there vs. a shack in LA.
Yeah but you have to live in Oklahoma
@mikehawk4455 there is a lot of ppl moving to Oklahoma, especially people from places like California and Florida and other southern states and they love it
@@The.Adventures.of.Alexander true, let me not knock it before I try it. I’ve never been
I look forward to it being built even if it doesnt end up as tall as anticipated! Progress is progress
Yes, build it in tornado alley 🤪
1700 residential units. Now that is impressive. OKC could easily become the next Nashville or Austin which has had a massive population growth.
Some in Austin are now not happy with all the problems that came with the growth.
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the tower got stroked by a tornado
It wont
If some of the tallest buildings can be built in "we have massive eaath quakes every few months" japan, it can be built in Oklahoma
haha stroked
Thats the 1st thing I thought of when I heard OKC
So what? So did Fort Worth, Dallas, Houston, Edmonton, even MIAMI have taken twisters to their city before... It's not as big a deal as you think besides flying glass.. Buildings rarely do what you think they will regardless of tragedy type...
I had heard a lot about how this build was supposedly supposed to include a new arena for the Thunder, too, as though the arena they have now is still very young, and in fantastic repair, it was built extremely bare bones, and the NBA has specific requirements for their teams to meet including within their arenas, thus why they claim they need a new one already.
Another thing I want to note is that OKC already has one of the nation's tallest skyscrapers in whatever that 950+ one is downtown. No one believed that would work out or be mostly rented out either, but somehow, it was and still is, even despite massive commercial and office defaults and bankruptcies nation wide. So don't be surprised if somehow this does get built AND succeeds in achieving at least 50% lease by year 3 of it being open.
1 WTC is not actually 1776 ft high. If they had built it as designed, enclosed to the very top, it would be.
Antennas should not count. They don't count on the Willis Tower (formerly Sears Tower).
The 1 WTC is actually 1776 feet facts over feelings. The One World Trade Center doesn't have an antenna it has a spire which aren't the same it has a spire which is part of the buildings structure. They don't count the Willis Tower’s antennas because they're antennas lmao the 1 WTC doesn't have an antenna it has a spire which is part of the buildings structure the antennas on the Willis Tower can be removed and aren't actually part of the building.
1000% Mid Chinese cities almost always have taller towers than that if you exclude cheaty spires... Even Edmonton which is Canada's 5/6th largest metro has an 826' tower crowning its skyline with developers planning at least 2-3 towers taller than the 900' mark... And we are Canada's Tornado Alley... I witnessed Edmonton '87 myself from under a half mile away... Also why I love/hate twisters... Like Jo from that movie back in the 1990's... ;-)
it is way too common. Merdeka 118 in Kuala Lumpur has a 500 foot spire that counts in its height.
@@stickynorth I am designing a building in Toronto. It will be 200 feet tall, with a 3000 foot spire, thus the tallest building on earth.
It’s not an Antenna it’s a spire, one wtc is 1776 ft tall, Central Park tower is 1550 ft, both taller than the sears tower, cry harder
I live in Norman, OK. About 25 minutes from OKC downtown. It is very amazing that Norman is the 3rd largest city of Oklahoma at 130k people: OKC, Tulsa, Norman. I preface my feelings about this project. My concern is 2 fold: First, you will need enough people to fill the gigantic tower (and/ or proceeding towers) and second, Cramming that many people in a 1 mile by 1 mile space will cause extreme congestion on the roads. I feel that this is a "build it they will come" project and I am not convinced. With that all being said, It is pretty darn cool.
Like the tower
I saw an article where one of the architects at AO was asked about designing a skyscraper like this for a very tornado prone area. His exact words: "It's basically just a math problem." Just like unified field theory!
I hope that it gets built as planned so that it breaks the unofficial height limit in the U.S. and allows for other developers to feel comfortable building taller.
Unless we have ways to rescue everybody from those tall towers in the event of a 9/11 type attack, we should not build them that high
@@kylethompson3008 I think the hight of a building is irrelevant in that situation and the association in America between the two is paranoia caused by 9/11. If that makes any sense.
@@SkyHighCity I haven't expected an attack of that magnitude since then but none of us around back then really expected that to happen. I'm just saying it's good to be prepared for an emergency like that and nobody was because nobody thought of something like that happening until it already happened and it seems nobody is really fixing the issues in these skyscrapers that caused all those people to become trapped
I want to see another American skyscraper race with towers from L.A, SFO, Seattle, Denver, Chicago, New York City, Houston, Austin, Dallas and Miami all racing to compete... Others too like Oklahoma City or Atlanta since all have at least one tower that's 300m/984' tall or at least had serious proposals in the past for them that tall... Same here in Canada... Edmonton now allows for "unlimited height" downtown if desired. Right now the tallest built is only 253m/823' tall, the tallest proposed 300m/984' HOWEVER the rumoured "Signature Tower" for Ice District will be MUCH MUCH taller by all signs hinted at over the years... Hence why the site is being kept clear until the absolute last moment and is currently being used as a large fan zone concert venue and adult fun park for Edmonton Oilers fans during the Stanley Cup playoffs. Shania Twain played to like 30,000 the other day on the site as part of it...
@@kylethompson3008 Sadly this seems to be true, rather then trying to fix the problem people seem to just avoid it.
It will be built as nicely as Chicago Spire.
🤣, hopefully Legends actually gets built tho
Not a big fan of it being built in OKC but do think we need more modern skyscrapers here in the US. They don't have to be taller than the One World Trade Center though.
Why not
Good! I love to see it. Can we be rightfully the tallest again?
Im next door in Kansas, and theres a reason why nobody builds high up out in the plains. First of all, there is next to no demand for high-rises, mainly becuase land is cheaper to buy. Not to mention that there are still hundreds of cities small and big who’s downtowns are still mostly vacant. What about the wind problem? Since it is mostly alone in the skyline (another reason), nothing will be able to help somewhat soften their blows. Idk if it is factual or not, but there is usually a good gradient between short-medium-high rises.
If some of the worlds tallest buildings can be build in japan “we have massive earthquakes every few months” a building this tall can be build there.
Part of the point in a project like this is said space suddenly becomes the most valuable in the city. Prestige space
Nobody learned from 9/11. Don't build that high if you can't rescue people
@@kylethompson3008 Tell that to the residents of Lockerbie when the Pan Am flight 103 747 crashed onto their village thanks to a bomb in the luggage.
You can either hide in your single storey hut shaking like a leaf or live like a man without fear in whatever way you choose.
Also, not letting naughty people aboard the plane in the 1st place also helps.
@s3p4kner RIP to those victims as well. There was not that many on the ground, though, compared to the death trap that was the twin towers. If there's no way to rescue people, it should not be built
@@kylethompson3008 mfw there are 828 skyscrapers in the usa and over 22k in the world:
There is a building in NYC that is considerably taller than the 1 WTC - to roof height, which is in my opinion the true height mark. Central Park Tower is 472 meters tall to the roof (1548 feet), 1 WTC is 417 meters tall to the roof (1368 feet). You do the math. Including the antenna masts height in the overall measurement of the height of a skyscraper is bonkers!
American next Dubai City) Lets gooo
As a geography nerd, I'm very proud of myself for knowing it was Oklahoma City before you revealed it based off the other skyscraper in the 3D renders shown at the start :D
One world trade tower isn't the tallest even in new York, all those towers in billionaire row have way higher roof height. The antenna is a cheap looking thing completely different from the original version.
That's the way I suspect they like it... Public attention is on One WTC while they gloat from the clouds higher than the rubes...
It's not an antenna, it's a spire 💀
@@HouseOfValsburg only by name, it look awful and has no decorative features like proper spires, and as the roof is same as original towers its still 1368feet , look at the beautiful Chrysler building now that is a proper spire.
@@oddsandwindsocks5905 those telecommunications stuff make it look like an antenna, besides that, it doesn't function like an antenna in any way
Some of the critics are missing something. If you want to build to improve your economy, you need to build to support the incoming economy. To build the support for the economy, you need to build the economy. You have to start the circle somewhere. Another thing is to look at Oklahoma City itself. Tinker Airforce base is there. You have several interstate highways meet here both north/south and east/west. It is a great hub city. Many chain stores have warehouses here. Will Rogers airport is looking to expand and offer direct international flights. And let's not forget the OKC Thunder.
Fun fact: Dubai first got rich of the oil(obviously), but the population only started to soar AFTER the Burj Khalifa was completed. That alone gave so much tourism that it propelled the entire city to being a major center
So yes, a similar thing can absolutely happen in Oklahoma. OKC is already one of the fastest growing large cities in the US
Dubai is ocean-side... Pfft. OC.... plains and flat side....
@@billhosko7723 ahh, I see your comment is just as nonsensical and silly as all of your other comments on this exact video. Maybe touch some grass?
And OK also has a ton of oil!
They should build it in Detroit, the 313 is coming up!!!💥🔥
They cancelled one of these tall skyscrapers in Denver a few years ago, sadly. To look at the Denver skyline, it looks like they are all too scared to go higher than fifty or sixty stories tall (I do remember reading about how it is generally only profitable to have sixty or so floors, so anything after that wasn't as worth it, something to that effect. Not sure if that is true). It would be neat to have one really tall, signature tower in our skyline. I'm all for a nice 'scraper in Oklahoma instead of one of the big cities for once. A building like that would be a signature for the city, like the cash register skyscraper we have in Denver, only Oklahoma's would be harder to ignore, and more fun to go to the upper floors and see the view. Just my two cents. Who says there has to be x number of other tall buildings around it? I like skyscrapers, as long as they aren't too odd, like the proposed "leaning stacked blocks" design of World Trade Center Two in New York. They had a great initial "diamond top" design, only to go to this weird, leaning thing.
You guys are already a mile up. People on the top floors would have to be on oxygen if you built any higher.
@@michlo3393 That is a good point. It would just be cool to see a super-tall in our town. The skyline looks so restrained the way it is now.
@@RandyRydberg Some better low to midrise density around Coors Field would be great, that area looks like a weird flat spot. That IMO is just as important as supertalls, because honestly, when you're walking down the street, you're never really looking up beyond the first few floors anyway.
@@michlo3393 I think they are replacing the big parking lots for Ball with developments, and maybe Elichs is moving. That would be where some buildings might go.
This is outrageous. NYC should have the tallest skyscraper
Basing the megatall's construction on the housing portion makes sense. They're going to need cash flow to provide more funds for the Legends Tower. I'd also add construction costs are much lower in OKC than NYC or Chicago. If the economy has a downturn, they could reduce the height. Most of the upper floors are standard as to shape and floorspace.
it would be cool if Oklahoma becomes a major US center in the next decades. you go guys! from NY
Land is less expensive in OKC. that's how it's possible at that price tag
Start the video @ 2:08
Great for OKC. I live that city
Is it worthy or not to build?
@@ikhwansaloot maybe nor the tall one but the small ones
everyone gangsta until billings, montana builds the tallest skyscraper in the world
Minneapolis built IDS tower (Philip Johnson AIA) in early 70s w/ a 1.5 million metro area population - that worked; I don't see why Legends Tower won't work here
you’re forgetting that it’s almost double the height and cost for a city that has no major population boom. the whole metro area is about the population of the CITIES of minneapolis and st. paul combined
Who cares about Oklahoma ong
i know the bldg . . . it's called the 'hearfullness ctr,' a tall black latitidinous form w/some sort of yellow diamond on top, but diagonally; so tipped on it's side. if that makes sense. some sort of thing like "nostalgia incorporated," that this bldg would be..
This seems like a boondoggle. You can’t build a tall building and expect that to do all your work for you in terms of getting people to come and visit/live in your city. The reason NYC/Chicago became so successful is because they are ports and major import hubs. They had a century/centuries of being major hubs for trade, commerce, immigtation and and manufacturing before building their tall buildings. They were centers of stock exchanges, culture, wealth, and media. I am sure that OKC is a lovely place to live but you have to have those things going for you before a vanity project like the tallest building in the hemisphere will make sense. You have to have something besides the tower for people to see and experience for them to want to stick around. Otherwise you will get what happens in a lot of these cities: a tiny empty downtown surrounded by sprawling suburbs.
OKC has a decent downtown for tourism. A riverwalk lined with restaurants and nightclubs, a riversports adventure park with whitewater rafting, a ropes course, slides and ziplines, an indoor rock climbing area built into old grain silo's. A few miles out and there is a water park. Some people may want to visit the OKC Bombing Memorial and museum as well. So it's not necessarily great for a week + vacation, it's a fun little weekend trip for sure. The downtown area is usually pretty busy on the weekend weather depending.
I would be interesting if this tend spreads to similar skyline changes. Another city to "tower" above it's old Skyline recently was Edmonton, Canada which built a 251m tall skyscraper that surpassed the city's previous tallest by 100m. Though I'm talking about a city that is larger than OKC. The real issue for a city like Edmonton isn't size, or economy. But how far north it is, the Shadow cast by a 500m building during the winter would cover tens of thousands of residents. Calgary, for example, has a Height limit to keep the building shadows from disrupting fish in the river. Down in Oklahoma, the shadow isn't as big of an issue. One interesting phenomenon that occurs with the Stantec Tower is that it during inversions the temperature on the roof can be as high as 60F while the street level is sub zero. A fairly common winter occurrence that is a major contributor to smog buildup during the winter. So if Edmonton could do the same as OKC is with Legends, and build it's own 580m tall building, an array of rooftop terraces and baloneys can be set up as retreats from the winter cold. Up in the warm inversion layer half a kilometer above the frozen streets below.
That's the most oklahoma city thing ever. The state is so flat that you'll probably be able to see the gulf of mexico from the top lmao
Held the record with the "antenna". :D Wow :D
The skyline is going to look so uneven when its built. 😂
WRONG.
@@stickynorth Yes, because the skyscraper is going to look lonely because of its size. Unless, there's more skyscrapers being planned for OKC.
@@stickynorthyes it will be far from Devon tower and will make Devon tower tiny. While making the rest of the skyscrapers micro. The OKC skyline is already as strange as it is and the Legends tower will make it even more odd.
This gives new meaning to the term "white elephant".
Imagine the tornadoes in Oklahoma City.. They really need to reconsider.
Exactly 💯
Looks cool!
The World Trade Center is actually a 1368 foot building (same as the destroyed Tower 1) with a 400 foot pole on top. Great building, but not even the tallest in NYC, much less the country. So how tall is this building without the antenna? If it is not going to be constructed in the first phase of the project, I think it highly unlikely it ever will be. I hope I'm wrong.
The One World Trade Center is not “actually 1368 feet tall.” lmao learn architecture the current One World Trade Center is 1776 feet tall it’s spire counts it is part of the building structure as defined by the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitats. Your opinion doesn't matter lmao maybe learn architecture facts over feelings the One World Trade Center is 100% the tallest building in NYC and the US facts don't care about your opinion
The One World Trade Center doesn't have an antenna lmao it has a spire. An antenna and a spire are NOT the same
I live in north Texas and travel to OKC now and then. OKC is such a wreck. It's infrastructure is terrible, many neighborhoods are blighted, and frankly, ordinary people don't care much about great projects. OKC has so many needs (apart from all the casinos there and spread out across the state). If built, it could turn out to be OKC's version of North Korea's boondoggle Ryugyong Hotel.
City has one pro team in the NBA of all things
Nobody is going on vacation to see a thunder game lol
That’s not true, plenty of people stay the night for a game
20mil people go a year to OKC already, and towers like this massively increase tourism
They will have the best view of the game from the top of that tower no? Well, with binoculars XD
You'd be surprised how much regional traffic fills towers like this... People from Tulsa, Dallas, Wichita...
People are pretty ignorant to OKC. There’s a lot under construction in the state that’s expected to ramp up tourism here lol. We got some nice bars and clubs here too. Are we glamorous? No but it’s not a bad weekend trip and I know several people that visit Okc BECAUSE of the thunder lol
Ah yes build the largest skyscraper in the country in the center of tornado alley. That’ll go well