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For the record even L.A. doesn't have that much of a skyline compared to even mid-tier Canadian cities like Edmonton... Which has the tallest skyscraper outside Toronto in Canada... It's also Canada's fastest growing metro over the last 10 years topping even water-plagued Calgary... to quote Family Guy... "5's and 6's that's where the bargains are!" and I suspect places like Oklahoma City, Salt Lake and Orlando will continue to boom like E-town because of this! And plans for even taller towers including the 280m/900-ish foot tall Alldritt Tower and the long-stalled but not cancelled 280m Edmontonian which would rise at 101st and 105ave just north of Ice District where the 5-time Stanley Cup Champions, soon to be six, Oilers play... Which also hosts the Stantec Tower, which is that "tallest outside of Toronto" tower is built...
I love your videos, but your chart at 50 seconds in missed Philadelphia City Hall, which was both America’s and the world’s tallest sky scraper from 1894 until the Singer Tower in 1908 NYC (which would also have looked nice on that chart. As for the next video, it would be cool to see someone do a video about the Philadelphia City Hall, still the world’s tallest freemasonry building and the tallest municipal building (and overall, a really cool building).
@@marques9392 Oklahoma City has affordability and livability in a combo that is hard to beat. Housing in OKC is 1/5th the price of housing in New York or LA and half as much as other nearby cities such as Houston or Dallas. Detroit might be cheaper but the apocalyptic levels of crime and urban blight will keep most sane people away thus affecting livability. Safe and boring means a great place for normal people to settle down and raise a family. There aren't too many places like that anymore. The only other comparable cities would would Salt Lake City and Boise Idaho. There is such a housing shortage nationwide that a tower like this would thrive almost anywhere. People need housing and we not building nearly enough of it thanks to rampant NIMBY-ism. A city that actually wants to build things and isn't hostile to development is the city that has a bright future.
Why not? Canada's second tallest skyline is EDMONTON a city that's only the 5th and sometimes 6th largest metro in the nation... If you knew anything about economics the money is made from observation deck revenues. The taller? The more money it can bring in... The entire building like the Empire State Building could sit empty forever and it would still be profitable from the lift fees.. Bet you didn't know that! In fact, while you are educating yourself why not check out the PDF from SOM Skidmore Owings Merrill Architecture (who designed Chicago's Sears Tower) on the economics of skyscrapers called "This pays for THIS" where it lays out in laymans terms how skyscrapers are really financed. Also the other way? Loss leading "Signature Towers" that generate revenue from the rising values of nearby buildings that now have world class views... That's why middle eastern cities are obsessed with them... They know they don't need them space-wise... But they are there to anchor huge real estate district developments where middle-class aspirational luxury types will buy overpriced nearby units for the views and prestige of being next to the Burj Khalifa or 100 years ago until today? The Eiffel Tower...
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I hope this happens cause Chicago and New York are gonna immediately respond with trying to build taller towers. It'll break the barrier for taller buildings to be built.
I’m sure that the builders would top out the building at 1907 feet and not the stated 1906. Their aim is to use the 1907 figure to memorialize the date of Oklahoma statehood.
Fun fact, the top floor on the new One WTC is actually one hundred feet SHORTER in height, than the top floor of the original North Tower WTC. One WTC's top floor is approx 1260 feet high verses the original North Tower's top floor being approx 1360 feet high. One WTC's tower spiral that is used to "boost" its said height, is 2 times taller alone than the entire Statue of Liberty and its podium complex.
Living in Oklahoma and not far from OKC itself, this has to be one of the craziest things to happen in my lifetime. It seems as if it will be built and has a little to do with the new Thunder arena. I feel that it will have a casino in it somehow. If they make it an entertainment complex with a casino, they can make part of it into hotel rooms for guests making it a tourist destination.
I live 10 minutes from downtown, never even thought about the possibility of a casino in there. That would definitely help it thrive, giving it a Vegas feel.
I lived in downtown Chicago and now live in OKC because of family; I don’t think it’ll ever get built (especially if it depends on the success of phase I, the tower phase II is likely to be replaced by a smaller building or cxld altogether). Plus, it makes no economic sense.
@@tmz85 That is why I figure they will find a way to make the casino work. Parking will not be a problem as they can add it easily to where the planned building is to go. If they get a casino in it, it will be profitable like all other big casinos in Oklahoma. Having already secured the investors makes me think they will get the casino.
@tmz85 bro this is OKC not Chicago. We do it because we can. 😂😂😂😂 Welcome to Oklahoma love having you here. Now just chill and make money. Start a small business
@@scottwood928yea but okc is a tornado magnet think of the 1999 bridge creek moore EF5 and the 2011 El Reno EF5 plus The 2013 El Reno EF3 Edit: El Reno And Moore Are Suburbs Of OKC making OKC a tornado magnet
It is a chicken or the egg kind of scenario as in what came first. If you want people to visit your city you have to give them a reason to visit. Building this tower is a step in that direction.
A billion times over YES. I really fucking hate the "official" definition by the "official body" who defines building heights. They make ZERO sense. To the roof of the ACTUAL BUILDING. If you wanted a secondary height, go to the max height of the usable/livable space INSIDE the building (so to the ceiling of the highest floor). So ground floor... floor, to the roof and the top floor's ceiling.
It will be profitable. Observation deck fees... Empire State Building nets $100M each year from lift tickets at 50-100/piece... Office revenue? $10M... Enough said...
Also why this building only has 100K of office space.. That's maybe 10 floors... And that was lumped in with "commercial space" which could also include hotel ball rooms, retail, services, etc.
Same here, especially since my local city (Boston) has been slacking. Our tallest building (200 Claraden St) is only 790ft and has been the tallest building in Boston (and New England) since it was built in 1976, and we never topped it. Boston has too many height restrictions due to the airport and it's difficult to build anything over 800 ft.
@@Jon_Nadeau_ Boston has been far from slacking, The Celtics just beat my Mavs for goodness sakes lol...Congrats though. I just googled 200 Claraden and its a beautiful building. Here Dallas our tallest building is 921ft, was built in the early 80s and Its the 3rd tallest in Texas...Anyway Salute to the Celtics for being the better team this year. Have a blessed day.
@@Jayeskool318 I was referring to the lack of high rise skyscrapers the Boston has built since the 60s/70s and after 50 years we are still not able to building anything higher and likely never will for quite some time. Obviously in the sports department Boston is still kicking ass but no one is talking sports here. lol
That graph at 0:55 is pissing me off. The Petronas towers spires barely eek over the roof of the Sears tower... they do not tower over the Sears tower... side by side, most would assume the Sears was MUCH larger.
I love the desolate empty lots in every POV of the tower. Is this going to be that lair where the final boss lives in every post apocalyptic video game?
It was recently approved for an unlimited height, but knowing that, it won’t push the developers to go beyond the 1906 foot limit that they had already established.
Most of it would probably be cheaty spire anyway.. Not actual building height. Snap the spire off and the tower isn't that impressive even my mid-American standards... And I do mean MID...
For those ignorant about skyscraper economics? I suggest you read the Gensler PDF about how observation deck revenues often pay for skyscrapers ALONE starting way back with the Empty State Building as it was then known around NYC... The building wasn't popular with office tenants for decades, but it was a hit with the public as a tourist attraction from day one which not only paid off the building but literally kept the lights on. At the time of the report? The tower brought in $100M/year from lift tickets to the observation deck but only $10M/year from office leases.. That says all you need to know about the economics of all towers... The other revelation? Towers themselves can be loss leaders for developers IF they anchor larger real estate plays. Build a signature skyscraper and the public will climb over each other to buy units adjacent to or within site of the building and you can charge a healthy premium for these view-friendly apartments and make your money back and then some that way... This is why Jeddah, Dubai and all those other emerging cities only build one tall tower to anchor them with dozens of shorter more economical buildings next door where the profits are REALLY to be had...
Look you calling people dumb when we don’t know how they make money we just live this page however if you really wanna get to it what shops are going to be there again who cares about it observation decks? Look at the economy!?!? People can barley afford healthcare
Oklahoma City is in the heart of America, if Legends is built people will stop and pay to be on the top of the tallest building in the western hemisphere! There’s facts to support what @stickynorth said! Also, it is cheaper and would take less time to build a super tall in Oklahoma City than it is to in NYC or Chicago. One reason is density, traffic and how tight space is to have cranes, machinery, materials etc.
Hi - I do feasibility studies for real estate investors (banks, insurance companies, other lenders, government agencies, etc.) and while observation deck revenues can be a great add on, they don't justify the cost of a large office tower. If decks were a great revenue generator, there would be many more projects like the Space Needle in Seattle or the CN Tower in Toronto. The Legends Tower will likely cost (waaaaaaaaaaay) more than $1,000 PSF to build, and hotel room rates, condo/rental prices, and office/retail rents in OKC do not support that cost. The local government subsidies for the project ($200M is a lot of $$$) are still really unlikely to close the financial gap for this project. My prediction is Phase I gets built and then a scaled down version of the Tower is completed (hopefully within our lifetimes).
Fun fact: Dubai first got rich of the oil(obviously), but the population only started to soar AFTER the Burj Khalifa was completed. That alone gave so much tourism that it propelled the entire city to being a major center So yes, a similar thing can absolutely happen in Oklahoma. OKC is already one of the fastest growing large cities in the US
True, Oklahoma City doesn't yet have a million residents but it does have over 710,000 and is one of only 14 cities in the USA that grew by more than 100,000 people between 2010 and 2020. It's metro area has over 1.5 million. The city COULD reach the million mark by 2040. The city was also announced to co-host the 2028 LA Olympics since it already has world class facilities for 2 events (maybe a third-rowing). The city announced a $1B+ new downtown NBA arena and a $300M+ MLS stadium, in the vacinity of Legends tower. The city, just days ago, announced hard plans for transit expansion including LIGHT RAIL from downtown to the airport (itself renamed as OKC-Will Rogers International Airport, since it will shortly get international flights), Commuter rail connecting downtown to OKC's north and south anchor suburbs, additional BRT lines (currently has 1, 2 approved/U/C, 1 hard planned dowtown to Tinker AFB, 1 add'l possible downtown to West suburbs) and likely will expand its existing downtown streetcar system. OKC has so much momentum including monumental museum openings (First Americans Museum, to go along with the longstanding National Cowboy museum), a great restaurant scene, surprising venues and attractions, and a vibe that naysayers can't deny. Legends Tower may not 'fit' OKC today, but neither did it's current tallest - the almost supertall Devon Tower (already the tallest building between Chicago and LA excluding TX), nor the BoA Tower in Charlotte, etc. I'd encourage a visit, especially in 4 years; I think most visitors will be blown away just like most who actually give the city a chance rather than holding to stereotypes.
1 WTC is not actually 1776 ft high. If they had built it as designed, enclosed to the very top, it would be. Antennas should not count. They don't count on the Willis Tower (formerly Sears Tower).
The 1 WTC is actually 1776 feet facts over feelings. The One World Trade Center doesn't have an antenna it has a spire which aren't the same it has a spire which is part of the buildings structure. They don't count the Willis Tower’s antennas because they're antennas lmao the 1 WTC doesn't have an antenna it has a spire which is part of the buildings structure the antennas on the Willis Tower can be removed and aren't actually part of the building.
1000% Mid Chinese cities almost always have taller towers than that if you exclude cheaty spires... Even Edmonton which is Canada's 5/6th largest metro has an 826' tower crowning its skyline with developers planning at least 2-3 towers taller than the 900' mark... And we are Canada's Tornado Alley... I witnessed Edmonton '87 myself from under a half mile away... Also why I love/hate twisters... Like Jo from that movie back in the 1990's... ;-)
I interned for AO last summer, was kind of shocked to see this proposal considering they don’t do many high rise developments, however they were an amazing team and i have no doubt they’ll be able to pull it off.
I saw an article where one of the architects at AO was asked about designing a skyscraper like this for a very tornado prone area. His exact words: "It's basically just a math problem." Just like unified field theory!
It's in a city with a barely existent transit system, but it's right next to an underused rail ROW that could serve as a solid regional rail system. I live the idea of Oklahoma densifying and creating a vibrant urban core, but they need to do it right and implement proper transit system.
For someone fascinated by stuff like this, your videos have been great for me! I love this stuff so thank you for bringing these videos to the masses. I've enjoyed watching and learning about these massive projects coming in the future. This building looks cool as heck, but a little out of place in OKC lol.
I don't know why Coastal Americans are so snide about a mid-tier city building up its skyline. Is it because it isn't a major city? A port city? A democratic city? I'd genuinely love to know. I live in Edmonton and A-hole types from Vancouver and Toronto snigger at us from their 300 sq ft shoebox apartments that cost $1.2M a piece... Meanwhile $1.2M will clear you the penthouse in the Stantec Tower which is the tallest skyscraper in Canada outside Toronto at 823' next to Rogers Place where the Edmonton Oilers are a game away from winning the Stanley Cup... Seems to me that the economics of skyscrapers and arena-anchoring mega districts work just as well in Edmonton and Oklahoma City as they do in Los Angeles, Vancouver, Toronto or New York...
Im next door in Kansas, and theres a reason why nobody builds high up out in the plains. First of all, there is next to no demand for high-rises, mainly becuase land is cheaper to buy. Not to mention that there are still hundreds of cities small and big who’s downtowns are still mostly vacant. What about the wind problem? Since it is mostly alone in the skyline (another reason), nothing will be able to help somewhat soften their blows. Idk if it is factual or not, but there is usually a good gradient between short-medium-high rises.
If some of the worlds tallest buildings can be build in japan “we have massive earthquakes every few months” a building this tall can be build there. Part of the point in a project like this is said space suddenly becomes the most valuable in the city. Prestige space
@@kylethompson3008 Tell that to the residents of Lockerbie when the Pan Am flight 103 747 crashed onto their village thanks to a bomb in the luggage. You can either hide in your single storey hut shaking like a leaf or live like a man without fear in whatever way you choose. Also, not letting naughty people aboard the plane in the 1st place also helps.
@s3p4kner RIP to those victims as well. There was not that many on the ground, though, compared to the death trap that was the twin towers. If there's no way to rescue people, it should not be built
Some of the critics are missing something. If you want to build to improve your economy, you need to build to support the incoming economy. To build the support for the economy, you need to build the economy. You have to start the circle somewhere. Another thing is to look at Oklahoma City itself. Tinker Airforce base is there. You have several interstate highways meet here both north/south and east/west. It is a great hub city. Many chain stores have warehouses here. Will Rogers airport is looking to expand and offer direct international flights. And let's not forget the OKC Thunder.
Boston may need an observation tower that will dwarf the Hancock and Prudential Towers. But the one question we must ask ourselves has to be where? Near Fenway Park (which will mean an entire section of the Mass Pike from Boston University all the way to I-93 plus the railway section that runs alongside it will need to be built on top), near Boston Common, or next to the Zakim Bridge? Should the Zakim undergo any future updates, the existing towers on the bridge might be replaced with even bigger towers that could come with 360-degree views and so on.
So what? So did Fort Worth, Dallas, Houston, Edmonton, even MIAMI have taken twisters to their city before... It's not as big a deal as you think besides flying glass.. Buildings rarely do what you think they will regardless of tragedy type...
One factor they probably haven't thought about OKC is a Tornado magnet. F5 could shred a building like that. If they want to build a building like that in this part of the country, Dallas or Houston would be a more logical choice.
As a geography nerd, I'm very proud of myself for knowing it was Oklahoma City before you revealed it based off the other skyscraper in the 3D renders shown at the start :D
They’re trying to create a tourist destination for OKC. Dubai is using man made islands and the Burj Dubai. OKC will use this tower for the local region.
There's got to be more than meets the eye here. OKC is in the size range of my home, which is here south of Portland Oregon. Our metro area is similar sized as Oklahoma City has. I'd argue (without any facts before me) PDX could rationalize some big ol' silly thing like that, not by projected growth a population base, but rather the abilities to bring broader base of income from company headquarters and the like that would most likely populate the complex. There would be no stomach for it here, but in the hands of a region interested in developing a new, suburban/metro/density pattern, that would a planned solution to the weird and laissez-faire methodology of growth in the previous hundred years in our cities, like the world's cities. I'd argue that collectively our world has become a bit lazy, looking at the present to solve tomorrow's needs when we haven't a solid clue what tomorrow will bring.
The video is leaving out an important detail which is transit. There simply isn't a large enough of a transit system to accommodate a building this tall. Theres a reason they don't build super tall buildings in the middle of fields. The parking deck would be massive and the neighboring roads aren't made to handle such large structures without a good integrated transit system. It just doesn't make sense.
If you exclude the antenna on top of One WTC it is NOT America’s tallest building. In Manhattan alone there are three taller buildings by roof height. The tallest building in America and the Western Hemisphere is the 1,550 ft tall Central Park Tower, which is nearly 200 ft taller than One WTC. The stick atop One WTC may be called a spire but it is in reality an antenna.
There is a building in NYC that is considerably taller than the 1 WTC - to roof height, which is in my opinion the true height mark. Central Park Tower is 472 meters tall to the roof (1548 feet), 1 WTC is 417 meters tall to the roof (1368 feet). You do the math. Including the antenna masts height in the overall measurement of the height of a skyscraper is bonkers!
1000% Here in Canada, where i personally witnessed and survived Edmonton '87... Aka The F4 twister that struck the city and killed 27, we have the tallest tower in Canada outside of Toronto... And while glass may fall off the tower, it isn't from the wind.. Just poor adhesives keeping in the plate glass... 6 have popped off and crashed to the ground since opening in 2018...
Not a big fan of it being built in OKC but do think we need more modern skyscrapers here in the US. They don't have to be taller than the One World Trade Center though.
This is a nice skyscraper tower design. To build this proposed 1906ft tall building in Oklahoma City has me scratching my head. I'd have expected this building to have been built somewhere completely different, like Dallas or Houston... or somewhere like Los Angeles, Seattle, Boston, Philadelphia, New York City, Chicago, Charlotte, or Miami... or perhaps Atlanta. 🤔
The rationale I've always heard for skyscrapers is that they maximized the use of very expensive land. Is OKC land expensive enough for the added cost per square foot of such tall construction? And does it's location in Tornado Alley require additional engineering and construction expense?
I always find it interesting when foreign YoutTubers do rundowns on US projects, they seem to forget that absolutely no company in the US would ever propose or use in constructing any building in the US in metric. Also, while inflation may drive its price to more than the Freedom Tower, the Freedom Tower was that expensive because it had to be tough enough to survive an airplane impact and another terrorist attack. So its about 2-3x stronger than a normal skyscraper would be. But its height is not the reason why such buildings have not been built...cost is, but more than that. Think about all of the current tallest buildings like the Shanghai Tower and Burj Kalifa. With few exceptions, most of them are mostly empty. NYC is seeing a glut of office space right now, so no one wants to build a building just for that, and to make things worse if they opted to make it housing, the housing would need to be super expensive to pay for the building. Me personally, I am for a new tallets building in the US, but I don't think this structure will be successful in OKC.
I think if they just make the roof height taller than 1WTC everyone wins , because anything above 1400ft roof height will look noticeably taller but with the 1WTC antenna spire giving it an extra 400ft in length it can technically still hold that symbolic title so you can have the legends roof height be like 1600-1700 ft high while the 1WTC roof height sits at 1368 but with its antenna still hold that technical Americas tallest building….
Small cities that are fast growing quickly become huge ones, often "overnight"... See Austin, Las Vegas or Phoenix in the US context or Edmonton or Calgary for a Canadian one... Both Edmonton and Calgary have 800'+ tall towers and neither have more than 1.5 million in the larger metro... Edmonton's tallest tower which is Canada's tallest outside of Toronto is here and it's 826' of mixed use space that includes 20 floors of offices, 40 floors of rental and condo units, although 20 of those were to be a secondary 5-star hotel to compliment the next door W. Marriott that was also built at the same time as part of Ice District and our new NHL arena, Rogers Place...
Comparing Oklahoma City to Calgary which is in the same ballpark for population: Calgary probably has a bit under 1.8 million people in the entire urban area now and has a lot of tall buildings including skyscrapers. It's not trying to compete with Toronto, Chicago and New York (yet) but still has more tall buildings than a significant number of bigger American cities. Calgary has enough tall buildings that it is among the 14 Canadian and American cities which are monitored for highrise construction in the semi-annual cranes index. Calgary started out as a central place in a province known for ranching and then became a major headquarters for the oil industry - a path that I assumed Oklahoma City had followed. I wonder why Oklahoma City doesn't have a skyline like that of Calgary. Perhaps all the American headquarters of oil companies are in bigger cities such as Dallas. Right now Calgary's population growing at an incredible rate of 6% a year which if it continued would mean the population would double to 3.6 million people in about 12 years which obviously would put it in another scale of city size more suitable for having skyscrapers. I wonder how fast Oklahoma City is growing. It did somehow take an NBA team from the much bigger city of Seattle so maybe it will surprise the world again by building a super tall skyscraper but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
If they get it cool. I don’t think it will get built at that height though. By the time they finish the base building, they will cut this building in half! It will still be a new tallest for the city though.
The Sears tower is still the tallest skyscraper in the US. The "spire loophole" is a joke. Some said it's like counting a Mohawk haircut as part of one's total height.
When Manhattan developed all the available land yet kept growing, it became economically viable to start building up instead of out. The same doesn’t really apply in Oklahoma City. This would be a vanity project like the skyscrapers of Dubai, and unlike Dubai we don’t have billions upon billions of oil dollars to blow on vanity projects.
1,907 ft plus, 3 Events of the 2028 Olympics will be here OKC, and just in time for the opening and closing ceremonies. Wouldn`t it look cool at night lit up with the Olympic logo at the top! Also, it`ll take 3-4 years to complete all 4 buildings.
1:28 Fun fact, another (probably unintentional) reference to an important event in the US is that the height of the tower with the antennae included is 1,792ft, the year George Washington was first elected into office.
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For the record even L.A. doesn't have that much of a skyline compared to even mid-tier Canadian cities like Edmonton... Which has the tallest skyscraper outside Toronto in Canada... It's also Canada's fastest growing metro over the last 10 years topping even water-plagued Calgary... to quote Family Guy... "5's and 6's that's where the bargains are!" and I suspect places like Oklahoma City, Salt Lake and Orlando will continue to boom like E-town because of this! And plans for even taller towers including the 280m/900-ish foot tall Alldritt Tower and the long-stalled but not cancelled 280m Edmontonian which would rise at 101st and 105ave just north of Ice District where the 5-time Stanley Cup Champions, soon to be six, Oilers play... Which also hosts the Stantec Tower, which is that "tallest outside of Toronto" tower is built...
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I love your videos, but your chart at 50 seconds in missed Philadelphia City Hall, which was both America’s and the world’s tallest sky scraper from 1894 until the Singer Tower in 1908 NYC (which would also have looked nice on that chart.
As for the next video, it would be cool to see someone do a video about the Philadelphia City Hall, still the world’s tallest freemasonry building and the tallest municipal building (and overall, a really cool building).
Yeah other than the thunder what does Oklahoma City have?
@@marques9392 Oklahoma City has affordability and livability in a combo that is hard to beat. Housing in OKC is 1/5th the price of housing in New York or LA and half as much as other nearby cities such as Houston or Dallas. Detroit might be cheaper but the apocalyptic levels of crime and urban blight will keep most sane people away thus affecting livability. Safe and boring means a great place for normal people to settle down and raise a family. There aren't too many places like that anymore. The only other comparable cities would would Salt Lake City and Boise Idaho. There is such a housing shortage nationwide that a tower like this would thrive almost anywhere. People need housing and we not building nearly enough of it thanks to rampant NIMBY-ism. A city that actually wants to build things and isn't hostile to development is the city that has a bright future.
i hope they build it because oklahoma city having the tallest skyscraper in America sounds hilarious
imagine if they built it in ohio...
That and fuck the so called "experts" always hating
Why not? Canada's second tallest skyline is EDMONTON a city that's only the 5th and sometimes 6th largest metro in the nation... If you knew anything about economics the money is made from observation deck revenues. The taller? The more money it can bring in... The entire building like the Empire State Building could sit empty forever and it would still be profitable from the lift fees.. Bet you didn't know that! In fact, while you are educating yourself why not check out the PDF from SOM Skidmore Owings Merrill Architecture (who designed Chicago's Sears Tower) on the economics of skyscrapers called "This pays for THIS" where it lays out in laymans terms how skyscrapers are really financed. Also the other way? Loss leading "Signature Towers" that generate revenue from the rising values of nearby buildings that now have world class views... That's why middle eastern cities are obsessed with them... They know they don't need them space-wise... But they are there to anchor huge real estate district developments where middle-class aspirational luxury types will buy overpriced nearby units for the views and prestige of being next to the Burj Khalifa or 100 years ago until today? The Eiffel Tower...
@@z0phi3l facts 🔥🔥🔥
Haha, I want it built for that reason! It will be so strange, but maybe it can start more skyscraper construction there.
The tallest building in america being in oklahoma city is funny asf 🤣
It would also be one of the tallest buildings in the world.
@@AL-lh2ht It would be the 6th tallest building in the world
It won't happen..
@@tjtreinen7381 I don't think it will either but good luck to them.
@@tjtreinen7381It is happening. It’s already been approved
It's a kind of cheating using an antenna to increase the height of buildings 😅. The height should be the usable parts
There are normally several lists which contain tallest occupied floors…but I agree with your sentiment
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I guess burj khalifa will be smol then
Antennas aren't "usable" ?
@@williamafendya2527 They're not occupiable.
I hope this happens cause Chicago and New York are gonna immediately respond with trying to build taller towers. It'll break the barrier for taller buildings to be built.
i think new york has a rule that says building taller than the One world trade centre is prohibited
@@thom0243 it's unwritten rule, but I don't think they'd let their egoes be challenged like that
@thom0243 also for all intents and purposes, central park tower is taller than the one world trade center. That "spire" is an antenna.
I’m sure that the builders would top out the building at 1907 feet and not the stated 1906. Their aim is to use the 1907 figure to memorialize the date of Oklahoma statehood.
Reminds me of the super talls in the Middle East out in the middle of nowhere
By “out in the middle of near where” you mean their largest and most populated cities.
@@AL-lh2htDubai has absolutely zero history
@@MattNewsome28 racist as hell and a straight up lie. Good job!
@@MattNewsome28 That's a extremely racist statement and easy to verify as a obvious lie.
@@MattNewsome28 what a racccisst statement.
Fun fact, the top floor on the new One WTC is actually one hundred feet SHORTER in height, than the top floor of the original North Tower WTC. One WTC's top floor is approx 1260 feet high verses the original North Tower's top floor being approx 1360 feet high. One WTC's tower spiral that is used to "boost" its said height, is 2 times taller alone than the entire Statue of Liberty and its podium complex.
@richh650 nice to hear that. I thought they put the roof height the same as original at 1362 feet
The sears tower building itself is also taller than the building of the one WTC
@@owenklein1917Central Park tower has a higher occupied floor than the sears tower. Tallest building and highest occupied floor are both in New York
Living in Oklahoma and not far from OKC itself, this has to be one of the craziest things to happen in my lifetime. It seems as if it will be built and has a little to do with the new Thunder arena. I feel that it will have a casino in it somehow. If they make it an entertainment complex with a casino, they can make part of it into hotel rooms for guests making it a tourist destination.
I live 10 minutes from downtown, never even thought about the possibility of a casino in there. That would definitely help it thrive, giving it a Vegas feel.
I lived in downtown Chicago and now live in OKC because of family; I don’t think it’ll ever get built (especially if it depends on the success of phase I, the tower phase II is likely to be replaced by a smaller building or cxld altogether). Plus, it makes no economic sense.
@@tmz85 That is why I figure they will find a way to make the casino work. Parking will not be a problem as they can add it easily to where the planned building is to go. If they get a casino in it, it will be profitable like all other big casinos in Oklahoma. Having already secured the investors makes me think they will get the casino.
@@tmz85you don't make economic sense.
@tmz85 bro this is OKC not Chicago. We do it because we can. 😂😂😂😂
Welcome to Oklahoma love having you here. Now just chill and make money. Start a small business
Can we just talk about how they are trying to put it in the heart of tornado alley 😂
they design it to withstand strong winds. It is not made of cardboard. They build tall skyscrapers in LA and SF, which are in earthquake zones.
@@scottwood928yea but okc is a tornado magnet think of the 1999 bridge creek moore EF5 and the 2011 El Reno EF5 plus The 2013 El Reno EF3 Edit: El Reno And Moore Are Suburbs Of OKC making OKC a tornado magnet
@@JayIsACelticsFan1 developers are not going to spend a billion dollars to build a skyscraper that falls over in a storm.
@@scottwood928but thats exactly what they're doing...
Remember the tornado that hit downtown Atlanta, y’all dumb asf
Never in my life have I heard anyone say, “I’d love to visit Oklahoma City.”
What a pity for you! I'd never visit a Red State yet half the nation lives there... Go figure...
Yeah because it’s a horrible place
@@parker23148have you ever been here lol. It’s actually really nice place lol.
No but that could change in a decade with all the stuff getting built around here
It is a chicken or the egg kind of scenario as in what came first. If you want people to visit your city you have to give them a reason to visit. Building this tower is a step in that direction.
In my eyes, One WTC is 1,368FT tall. Rooftops should be the official height instead of antennas/spire.
YES!!!!! 100% THANK YOU! I hate cheaty spires!
Even if rooftop height was the standard for measuring height, legends tower would still be taller than WTC.
@@jdelong1847 Maybe but Central Park Tower would still be higher at 500m vs 450m for 1WTC who has 91m antenna...
A billion times over YES. I really fucking hate the "official" definition by the "official body" who defines building heights. They make ZERO sense. To the roof of the ACTUAL BUILDING. If you wanted a secondary height, go to the max height of the usable/livable space INSIDE the building (so to the ceiling of the highest floor). So ground floor... floor, to the roof and the top floor's ceiling.
The WTC is 1776ft tall to reference Independence day
I'm just a sucker for skyscrapers. I just want more, even though they might not be profitable or useful lol.
It will be profitable. Observation deck fees... Empire State Building nets $100M each year from lift tickets at 50-100/piece... Office revenue? $10M... Enough said...
Also why this building only has 100K of office space.. That's maybe 10 floors... And that was lumped in with "commercial space" which could also include hotel ball rooms, retail, services, etc.
Same here, especially since my local city (Boston) has been slacking. Our tallest building (200 Claraden St) is only 790ft and has been the tallest building in Boston (and New England) since it was built in 1976, and we never topped it. Boston has too many height restrictions due to the airport and it's difficult to build anything over 800 ft.
@@Jon_Nadeau_ Boston has been far from slacking, The Celtics just beat my Mavs for goodness sakes lol...Congrats though. I just googled 200 Claraden and its a beautiful building. Here Dallas our tallest building is 921ft, was built in the early 80s and Its the 3rd tallest in Texas...Anyway Salute to the Celtics for being the better team this year. Have a blessed day.
@@Jayeskool318 I was referring to the lack of high rise skyscrapers the Boston has built since the 60s/70s and after 50 years we are still not able to building anything higher and likely never will for quite some time. Obviously in the sports department Boston is still kicking ass but no one is talking sports here. lol
That graph at 0:55 is pissing me off. The Petronas towers spires barely eek over the roof of the Sears tower... they do not tower over the Sears tower... side by side, most would assume the Sears was MUCH larger.
I TOTALLY AGREE ON THAT ITS A TOTAL CHEATING BUILDING AND THAT GRAPH IS B.S IT PISSES ME OFF TOO
AND THAT FREEDOM TOWER IS A CHEATING B.S TOWER
THAT GRAPH IS BULL S***
I love the desolate empty lots in every POV of the tower. Is this going to be that lair where the final boss lives in every post apocalyptic video game?
Naw, they'll be used for surface parking, maybe even a few garages. There is approximately zero transit infrastructure in OKC.
imagine the breathtaking views from their observation deck, hahaha
@@meberg500 I live in OKC. I can confirm
@@Job0121 Prairie! as far as the eye can see!!
It was recently approved for an unlimited height, but knowing that, it won’t push the developers to go beyond the 1906 foot limit that they had already established.
Most of it would probably be cheaty spire anyway.. Not actual building height. Snap the spire off and the tower isn't that impressive even my mid-American standards... And I do mean MID...
@@stickynorth”most” You may need to double check your maths. Even without it, it would be taller than anything in “mid” America
OKC will make good use of this skyscraper. After it’s built, the city will still have a shortage of hotel rooms and housing so this is needed
As a Oklahoman ( yes we are real ) I think the tower is a cool idea
For those ignorant about skyscraper economics? I suggest you read the Gensler PDF about how observation deck revenues often pay for skyscrapers ALONE starting way back with the Empty State Building as it was then known around NYC... The building wasn't popular with office tenants for decades, but it was a hit with the public as a tourist attraction from day one which not only paid off the building but literally kept the lights on. At the time of the report? The tower brought in $100M/year from lift tickets to the observation deck but only $10M/year from office leases.. That says all you need to know about the economics of all towers... The other revelation? Towers themselves can be loss leaders for developers IF they anchor larger real estate plays. Build a signature skyscraper and the public will climb over each other to buy units adjacent to or within site of the building and you can charge a healthy premium for these view-friendly apartments and make your money back and then some that way... This is why Jeddah, Dubai and all those other emerging cities only build one tall tower to anchor them with dozens of shorter more economical buildings next door where the profits are REALLY to be had...
Look you calling people dumb when we don’t know how they make money we just live this page however if you really wanna get to it what shops are going to be there again who cares about it observation decks? Look at the economy!?!? People can barley afford healthcare
Except Oklahoma City basically has nothing worth viewing from an observation deck lol
Oklahoma City is in the heart of America, if Legends is built people will stop and pay to be on the top of the tallest building in the western hemisphere! There’s facts to support what @stickynorth said! Also, it is cheaper and would take less time to build a super tall in Oklahoma City than it is to in NYC or Chicago. One reason is density, traffic and how tight space is to have cranes, machinery, materials etc.
Hi - I do feasibility studies for real estate investors (banks, insurance companies, other lenders, government agencies, etc.) and while observation deck revenues can be a great add on, they don't justify the cost of a large office tower. If decks were a great revenue generator, there would be many more projects like the Space Needle in Seattle or the CN Tower in Toronto. The Legends Tower will likely cost (waaaaaaaaaaay) more than $1,000 PSF to build, and hotel room rates, condo/rental prices, and office/retail rents in OKC do not support that cost. The local government subsidies for the project ($200M is a lot of $$$) are still really unlikely to close the financial gap for this project. My prediction is Phase I gets built and then a scaled down version of the Tower is completed (hopefully within our lifetimes).
@@NutritionPolice Neither does dubai
Imagine the tornadoes in Oklahoma City.. They really need to reconsider.
Exactly 💯
I thought the plan was 1907 feet high, representing the year Oklahoma was admitted into statehood.
I thought so too! Makes sense to me! Symbolic cheaty spire and cheaty height...
It is. The creator just didn’t do their research there
The best part about a tower this size in OKC is you can see tornadoes coming in for miles.
Fun fact: Dubai first got rich of the oil(obviously), but the population only started to soar AFTER the Burj Khalifa was completed. That alone gave so much tourism that it propelled the entire city to being a major center
So yes, a similar thing can absolutely happen in Oklahoma. OKC is already one of the fastest growing large cities in the US
Dubai is ocean-side... Pfft. OC.... plains and flat side....
@@billhosko7723 ahh, I see your comment is just as nonsensical and silly as all of your other comments on this exact video. Maybe touch some grass?
And OK also has a ton of oil!
I love skyscrapers they look so cool
The building surely looks futuristic.
Hi Megabuilds, I am a new subscriber since 3 days ago. Your videos are very good.
True, Oklahoma City doesn't yet have a million residents but it does have over 710,000 and is one of only 14 cities in the USA that grew by more than 100,000 people between 2010 and 2020. It's metro area has over 1.5 million. The city COULD reach the million mark by 2040.
The city was also announced to co-host the 2028 LA Olympics since it already has world class facilities for 2 events (maybe a third-rowing). The city announced a $1B+ new downtown NBA arena and a $300M+ MLS stadium, in the vacinity of Legends tower. The city, just days ago, announced hard plans for transit expansion including LIGHT RAIL from downtown to the airport (itself renamed as OKC-Will Rogers International Airport, since it will shortly get international flights), Commuter rail connecting downtown to OKC's north and south anchor suburbs, additional BRT lines (currently has 1, 2 approved/U/C, 1 hard planned dowtown to Tinker AFB, 1 add'l possible downtown to West suburbs) and likely will expand its existing downtown streetcar system. OKC has so much momentum including monumental museum openings (First Americans Museum, to go along with the longstanding National Cowboy museum), a great restaurant scene, surprising venues and attractions, and a vibe that naysayers can't deny.
Legends Tower may not 'fit' OKC today, but neither did it's current tallest - the almost supertall Devon Tower (already the tallest building between Chicago and LA excluding TX), nor the BoA Tower in Charlotte, etc. I'd encourage a visit, especially in 4 years; I think most visitors will be blown away just like most who actually give the city a chance rather than holding to stereotypes.
They should build it in Detroit, the 313 is coming up!!!💥🔥
1 WTC is not actually 1776 ft high. If they had built it as designed, enclosed to the very top, it would be.
Antennas should not count. They don't count on the Willis Tower (formerly Sears Tower).
The 1 WTC is actually 1776 feet facts over feelings. The One World Trade Center doesn't have an antenna it has a spire which aren't the same it has a spire which is part of the buildings structure. They don't count the Willis Tower’s antennas because they're antennas lmao the 1 WTC doesn't have an antenna it has a spire which is part of the buildings structure the antennas on the Willis Tower can be removed and aren't actually part of the building.
1000% Mid Chinese cities almost always have taller towers than that if you exclude cheaty spires... Even Edmonton which is Canada's 5/6th largest metro has an 826' tower crowning its skyline with developers planning at least 2-3 towers taller than the 900' mark... And we are Canada's Tornado Alley... I witnessed Edmonton '87 myself from under a half mile away... Also why I love/hate twisters... Like Jo from that movie back in the 1990's... ;-)
it is way too common. Merdeka 118 in Kuala Lumpur has a 500 foot spire that counts in its height.
@@stickynorth I am designing a building in Toronto. It will be 200 feet tall, with a 3000 foot spire, thus the tallest building on earth.
It’s not an Antenna it’s a spire, one wtc is 1776 ft tall, Central Park tower is 1550 ft, both taller than the sears tower, cry harder
I interned for AO last summer, was kind of shocked to see this proposal considering they don’t do many high rise developments, however they were an amazing team and i have no doubt they’ll be able to pull it off.
1700 residential units. Now that is impressive. OKC could easily become the next Nashville or Austin which has had a massive population growth.
Some in Austin are now not happy with all the problems that came with the growth.
I saw an article where one of the architects at AO was asked about designing a skyscraper like this for a very tornado prone area. His exact words: "It's basically just a math problem." Just like unified field theory!
I'm all for it. I hope that it can withstand earthquakes and tornadoes.
I hope they build this skyscraper
It will be built as nicely as Chicago Spire.
Reminds of Tapei 101 in Taiwan.
To be honest if OKC were to build something this tall then they should built it even taller! Like make it closer to the Burj Khalifa.
I love hearing about this project here first, instead of one of the other construction channels - great job finding this project!
The way I see it, the Willis tower (previously the sears tower) is taller than the one world trade center
still wouldnt be the tallest building in america even without counting spires
This skyscraper looks cool asf
Land is less expensive in OKC. that's how it's possible at that price tag
Sears tower is still the best sky scraper in my opinion and I don’t care what anyone says it’s taller than the freedom tower
It's in a city with a barely existent transit system, but it's right next to an underused rail ROW that could serve as a solid regional rail system. I live the idea of Oklahoma densifying and creating a vibrant urban core, but they need to do it right and implement proper transit system.
Yes, build it in tornado alley 🤪
Most normal moment moment in oklahoma, making the next tallest building in america
Great for OKC. I live that city
Is it worthy or not to build?
@@ikhwansaloot maybe nor the tall one but the small ones
For someone fascinated by stuff like this, your videos have been great for me! I love this stuff so thank you for bringing these videos to the masses. I've enjoyed watching and learning about these massive projects coming in the future. This building looks cool as heck, but a little out of place in OKC lol.
I don't know why Coastal Americans are so snide about a mid-tier city building up its skyline. Is it because it isn't a major city? A port city? A democratic city? I'd genuinely love to know. I live in Edmonton and A-hole types from Vancouver and Toronto snigger at us from their 300 sq ft shoebox apartments that cost $1.2M a piece... Meanwhile $1.2M will clear you the penthouse in the Stantec Tower which is the tallest skyscraper in Canada outside Toronto at 823' next to Rogers Place where the Edmonton Oilers are a game away from winning the Stanley Cup... Seems to me that the economics of skyscrapers and arena-anchoring mega districts work just as well in Edmonton and Oklahoma City as they do in Los Angeles, Vancouver, Toronto or New York...
Im next door in Kansas, and theres a reason why nobody builds high up out in the plains. First of all, there is next to no demand for high-rises, mainly becuase land is cheaper to buy. Not to mention that there are still hundreds of cities small and big who’s downtowns are still mostly vacant. What about the wind problem? Since it is mostly alone in the skyline (another reason), nothing will be able to help somewhat soften their blows. Idk if it is factual or not, but there is usually a good gradient between short-medium-high rises.
If some of the worlds tallest buildings can be build in japan “we have massive earthquakes every few months” a building this tall can be build there.
Part of the point in a project like this is said space suddenly becomes the most valuable in the city. Prestige space
Nobody learned from 9/11. Don't build that high if you can't rescue people
@@kylethompson3008 Tell that to the residents of Lockerbie when the Pan Am flight 103 747 crashed onto their village thanks to a bomb in the luggage.
You can either hide in your single storey hut shaking like a leaf or live like a man without fear in whatever way you choose.
Also, not letting naughty people aboard the plane in the 1st place also helps.
@s3p4kner RIP to those victims as well. There was not that many on the ground, though, compared to the death trap that was the twin towers. If there's no way to rescue people, it should not be built
@@kylethompson3008 mfw there are 828 skyscrapers in the usa and over 22k in the world:
Some of the critics are missing something. If you want to build to improve your economy, you need to build to support the incoming economy. To build the support for the economy, you need to build the economy. You have to start the circle somewhere. Another thing is to look at Oklahoma City itself. Tinker Airforce base is there. You have several interstate highways meet here both north/south and east/west. It is a great hub city. Many chain stores have warehouses here. Will Rogers airport is looking to expand and offer direct international flights. And let's not forget the OKC Thunder.
This is just a dumb and pointless ego exercise. The only US cities that can support and justify a project like this is, as mentioned, NYC or Chicago.
Boston may need an observation tower that will dwarf the Hancock and Prudential Towers. But the one question we must ask ourselves has to be where? Near Fenway Park (which will mean an entire section of the Mass Pike from Boston University all the way to I-93 plus the railway section that runs alongside it will need to be built on top), near Boston Common, or next to the Zakim Bridge? Should the Zakim undergo any future updates, the existing towers on the bridge might be replaced with even bigger towers that could come with 360-degree views and so on.
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the tower got stroked by a tornado
It wont
If some of the tallest buildings can be built in "we have massive eaath quakes every few months" japan, it can be built in Oklahoma
haha stroked
Thats the 1st thing I thought of when I heard OKC
So what? So did Fort Worth, Dallas, Houston, Edmonton, even MIAMI have taken twisters to their city before... It's not as big a deal as you think besides flying glass.. Buildings rarely do what you think they will regardless of tragedy type...
One factor they probably haven't thought about OKC is a Tornado magnet. F5 could shred a building like that. If they want to build a building like that in this part of the country, Dallas or Houston would be a more logical choice.
As a geography nerd, I'm very proud of myself for knowing it was Oklahoma City before you revealed it based off the other skyscraper in the 3D renders shown at the start :D
They’re trying to create a tourist destination for OKC. Dubai is using man made islands and the Burj Dubai. OKC will use this tower for the local region.
There's got to be more than meets the eye here. OKC is in the size range of my home, which is here south of Portland Oregon. Our metro area is similar sized as Oklahoma City has. I'd argue (without any facts before me) PDX could rationalize some big ol' silly thing like that, not by projected growth a population base, but rather the abilities to bring broader base of income from company headquarters and the like that would most likely populate the complex. There would be no stomach for it here, but in the hands of a region interested in developing a new, suburban/metro/density pattern, that would a planned solution to the weird and laissez-faire methodology of growth in the previous hundred years in our cities, like the world's cities. I'd argue that collectively our world has become a bit lazy, looking at the present to solve tomorrow's needs when we haven't a solid clue what tomorrow will bring.
As a native New Yorker (who lives in New Jersey now), I say good luck, Oklahoma ... 👍
Been waiting since they announced the tower for yall to do a video on it!
The video is leaving out an important detail which is transit. There simply isn't a large enough of a transit system to accommodate a building this tall. Theres a reason they don't build super tall buildings in the middle of fields. The parking deck would be massive and the neighboring roads aren't made to handle such large structures without a good integrated transit system. It just doesn't make sense.
So many things they are not thinking through. Very odd no one brought your point.
American next Dubai City) Lets gooo
If you exclude the antenna on top of One WTC it is NOT America’s tallest building. In Manhattan alone there are three taller buildings by roof height.
The tallest building in America and the Western Hemisphere is the 1,550 ft tall Central Park Tower, which is nearly 200 ft taller than One WTC.
The stick atop One WTC may be called a spire but it is in reality an antenna.
There is a building in NYC that is considerably taller than the 1 WTC - to roof height, which is in my opinion the true height mark. Central Park Tower is 472 meters tall to the roof (1548 feet), 1 WTC is 417 meters tall to the roof (1368 feet). You do the math. Including the antenna masts height in the overall measurement of the height of a skyscraper is bonkers!
Get ready for all the "BuT iTs In ToRoNaDo AlLeY" posts.
As if Chicago has no wind...
Exactly those comments are dumb af
1000% Here in Canada, where i personally witnessed and survived Edmonton '87... Aka The F4 twister that struck the city and killed 27, we have the tallest tower in Canada outside of Toronto... And while glass may fall off the tower, it isn't from the wind.. Just poor adhesives keeping in the plate glass... 6 have popped off and crashed to the ground since opening in 2018...
@@bradleymcwilliams6348 yes, or as if hurricanes never hit the east coast.
I have concerns with it being built right in Tornado Alley. Granted, Chicago can get them too but its more rare. OKC is like a target.
As a transplant to Ok 12 years ago, this is exciting! And would home me closer to OU Medical Center. 😊
Not a big fan of it being built in OKC but do think we need more modern skyscrapers here in the US. They don't have to be taller than the One World Trade Center though.
Why not
The Central Park Tower is truly the tallest tower in the USA. With a roof height over 100' higher than one world trade center.
OK city is a very affordable place to live. That's why it's growing. You can get a mansion there vs. a shack in LA.
This is a nice skyscraper tower design. To build this proposed 1906ft tall building in Oklahoma City has me scratching my head.
I'd have expected this building to have been built somewhere completely different, like Dallas or Houston... or somewhere like Los Angeles, Seattle, Boston, Philadelphia, New York City, Chicago, Charlotte, or Miami... or perhaps Atlanta.
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4:08 OKLAHOMA CITY. Thumbs down for dragging out this nonsense.
Agreed
I was born in OKC are and raised there 50 years ago. I moved to Tulsa 7 years ago.
I hope it is built
That's the most oklahoma city thing ever. The state is so flat that you'll probably be able to see the gulf of mexico from the top lmao
The rationale I've always heard for skyscrapers is that they maximized the use of very expensive land. Is OKC land expensive enough for the added cost per square foot of such tall construction? And does it's location in Tornado Alley require additional engineering and construction expense?
A giant rectangular prism, how impressive.
Imagine all the things they could have done to the infrastructure of that city with that $200 million.
Yeah they could widen one highway by one lane
I am definitely all in for someone building a tower taller than the world trade center, but literally... Oklahoma City?
Fr… like- they should have thought of building it in Chicago or NYC- Kinda stupid ngl but oh well.
8th largest city by size and expanding rapidly in the population department as well. Oklahoma City is underrated
I always find it interesting when foreign YoutTubers do rundowns on US projects, they seem to forget that absolutely no company in the US would ever propose or use in constructing any building in the US in metric. Also, while inflation may drive its price to more than the Freedom Tower, the Freedom Tower was that expensive because it had to be tough enough to survive an airplane impact and another terrorist attack. So its about 2-3x stronger than a normal skyscraper would be. But its height is not the reason why such buildings have not been built...cost is, but more than that. Think about all of the current tallest buildings like the Shanghai Tower and Burj Kalifa. With few exceptions, most of them are mostly empty. NYC is seeing a glut of office space right now, so no one wants to build a building just for that, and to make things worse if they opted to make it housing, the housing would need to be super expensive to pay for the building. Me personally, I am for a new tallets building in the US, but I don't think this structure will be successful in OKC.
One World Trade Center
Cool if they’d build it in Tulsa downtown..it would fit in more there I think. Plus Tulsa is a nicer town in my opinion.
This will never get built.
Man that tower gonna get swept away from a tornado💀
this building will love Twister Season.
I think if they just make the roof height taller than 1WTC everyone wins , because anything above 1400ft roof height will look noticeably taller but with the 1WTC antenna spire giving it an extra 400ft in length it can technically still hold that symbolic title so you can have the legends roof height be like 1600-1700 ft high while the 1WTC roof height sits at 1368 but with its antenna still hold that technical Americas tallest building….
Interesting. Fwiw, it definitely wasn't my idea to build such a big building in a city that small. It could definitely work out for them.
Small cities that are fast growing quickly become huge ones, often "overnight"... See Austin, Las Vegas or Phoenix in the US context or Edmonton or Calgary for a Canadian one... Both Edmonton and Calgary have 800'+ tall towers and neither have more than 1.5 million in the larger metro... Edmonton's tallest tower which is Canada's tallest outside of Toronto is here and it's 826' of mixed use space that includes 20 floors of offices, 40 floors of rental and condo units, although 20 of those were to be a secondary 5-star hotel to compliment the next door W. Marriott that was also built at the same time as part of Ice District and our new NHL arena, Rogers Place...
Edit: building that tall...
Oklahoma is becoming a major step,tallest tower in the usa,and a giant theme park
Comparing Oklahoma City to Calgary which is in the same ballpark for population:
Calgary probably has a bit under 1.8 million people in the entire urban area now and has a lot of tall buildings including skyscrapers.
It's not trying to compete with Toronto, Chicago and New York (yet) but still has more tall buildings than a significant number of bigger American cities.
Calgary has enough tall buildings that it is among the 14 Canadian and American cities which are monitored for highrise construction in the semi-annual cranes index.
Calgary started out as a central place in a province known for ranching and then became a major headquarters for the oil industry - a path that I assumed Oklahoma City had followed.
I wonder why Oklahoma City doesn't have a skyline like that of Calgary.
Perhaps all the American headquarters of oil companies are in bigger cities such as Dallas.
Right now Calgary's population growing at an incredible rate of 6% a year which if it continued would mean the population would double to 3.6 million people in about 12 years which obviously would put it in another scale of city size more suitable for having skyscrapers.
I wonder how fast Oklahoma City is growing.
It did somehow take an NBA team from the much bigger city of Seattle so maybe it will surprise the world again by building a super tall skyscraper but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
If they get it cool. I don’t think it will get built at that height though. By the time they finish the base building, they will cut this building in half! It will still be a new tallest for the city though.
Imagine riding out an EF3-4 tornado at the top of that thing. Wooooo.
We need to keep breaking records
It's actually 1907ft, which commemorates the year Oklahoma became a state
If this happens, it’s going to trigger a skyscraper race among every US city that cannot bear OKC having the tallest skyscraper in the country.
not the antennas!!
The Sears tower is still the tallest skyscraper in the US. The "spire loophole" is a joke. Some said it's like counting a Mohawk haircut as part of one's total height.
When Manhattan developed all the available land yet kept growing, it became economically viable to start building up instead of out. The same doesn’t really apply in Oklahoma City. This would be a vanity project like the skyscrapers of Dubai, and unlike Dubai we don’t have billions upon billions of oil dollars to blow on vanity projects.
1,907 ft plus, 3 Events of the 2028 Olympics will be here OKC, and just in time for the opening and closing ceremonies. Wouldn`t it look cool at night lit up with the Olympic logo at the top! Also, it`ll take 3-4 years to complete all 4 buildings.
Has anyone thought that this would be great to test the recurrent questio "how would a super tall beuilding fare against a tornado?"
I heard that it will now be 1907' tall to symbolize Oklahoma's admission as a state in 1907.
1:28 Fun fact, another (probably unintentional) reference to an important event in the US is that the height of the tower with the antennae included is 1,792ft, the year George Washington was first elected into office.
The Central Park Tower did attempt to dethrone one world trade, and as far as roof height goes, did succeed. At least if I understand correctly.
Looks cool!