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    $450 brake upgrade kit vs. a $4400 big brake kit. Does more expensive mean more better? And is it worth it?
    Donut bought two identical 350z’s and we have been modifying them to be fun, daily drivers that you can take to the track.
    James Pumphrey and Zach Jobe are on Team Hi, and their Z gets the expensive parts. Nolan Sykes and Aaron Parker are on Team Low, and their 350z gets the cheap parts. Afterwards, the teams test them to see which components are actually worth spending the money on.
    So far, we’ve installed coilovers and new wheel and tire combos on the 350Zs, and now we’re moving on to brakes. The ability to stop well is probably one of the more underrated features of a car. But if you’re planning some serious go-fast mods, like the turbo kits coming soon, or you want to turn yourself into a track rat, braking should be a priority. It’s just plain safer. And if you’re looking for the fastest possible laps, being able to brake harder and later means you’ll be shaving off time. So we want to see what kind of results we can get from a really basic brake upgrade versus a full super expensive brake kit.
    This time, Nolan and Aaron are getting a lot less total stuff for their money. Their $450 basic brake upgrade kit just comes with drilled and slotted rotors, braided stainless steel brake lines, Centric Posi Quiet brake pads for the street, and some Motul brake fluid. Low Car is keeping its stock sliding calipers, which aren’t quite as confidence-inspiring as opposed-piston calipers. Their design makes them flex more, so the pedal might not feel as good as James’ will after his brake upgrade.
    Hi Team is getting a full-on, 4-wheel upgrade with Wilwood 6-piston front calipers and 2-piston rear calipers, bigger 13-inch front rotors, pads, and braided stainless lines to the tune of $4400.
    Is more expensive more better? Watch to find out.
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  • @Donut
    @Donut  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2539

    Do you drive a Hi car or a Low car?

    • @burningblackknight8237
      @burningblackknight8237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +147

      Not yet car

    • @andrewauto6082
      @andrewauto6082 4 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      High, I don’t trust eBay parts

    • @epiles2
      @epiles2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      High car, rotora BBK with OZ wheels wrapped in Pilot Sport 4s

    • @u1richh
      @u1richh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      A middle car. It's stock.

    • @davidcain2548
      @davidcain2548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Low car, 2003 Mazda 6, just bought it, it works

  • @2jtom63
    @2jtom63 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10667

    are you guys gonna be doing expensive blinker fluid vs cheap blinker fluid

    • @LS__812
      @LS__812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +526

      I think they put the wrong kind in my car when I had my oil changed recently. my right side is blinking faster than my left!

    • @kevintucker3354
      @kevintucker3354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +246

      I make my own blinker fluid for my car...I’m smarter than most people!

    • @OffensivePlayer316
      @OffensivePlayer316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Hurr durr

    • @mahiru20ten
      @mahiru20ten 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Do one with engine oils please.

    • @boymcfacto5832
      @boymcfacto5832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      And piston springs also make a massive difference

  • @leonsefton4509
    @leonsefton4509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5924

    When the brake kit is more expensive than the 350 😦

    • @alexion4010
      @alexion4010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +265

      FIXED CALIPER Not rotor.... any way so many things wrong in this video. P.S. never use chrome sockets on impact tools unless you want a pice of brittle high carbon steel in your eye.

    • @gusdhesewana9607
      @gusdhesewana9607 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@alexion4010 let just hope it not happening

    • @SataniaMcDowel
      @SataniaMcDowel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Really? Out here the most basic ones still stay at $6k and up...for $4400......a freaking S T E A L

    • @HappyDude1
      @HappyDude1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@alexion4010
      i saw a lot of faults when they tested the suspension
      in order to test that you need a track and a professional racing driver and a pro mechanic
      because on the KW you can tweak everything until its perfect
      and the KW set will last a lot longer.
      my friend had the cheap green coilovers and after 2 years it broke and he dousnt drive on the track
      he drives low and slow :)

    • @alexion4010
      @alexion4010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@HappyDude1 You are on the money. P.S. a accelerometer and a Picoscope can help them a lot as well but ...... let's not get to side tracked. Internet legends go by feel not by science!

  • @carlbasky7637
    @carlbasky7637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1735

    Title says $ 4,500 but intro says $ 4,400
    you owe my brain a $ 100

    • @brokenbmw3441
      @brokenbmw3441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Laaaabbbbboooorrrr

    • @superknightlol
      @superknightlol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ever heard of rounding?

    • @carlbasky7637
      @carlbasky7637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@superknightlol Ever heard of Price Ranges?

    • @yosyp5905
      @yosyp5905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@superknightlol Correct rounding doesn't work that way

    • @zehar9
      @zehar9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@superknightlol if its rounding it become 4000 for 4400 and 5000 for 4500...now you owe my brain a 500$

  • @zachmaster426
    @zachmaster426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2689

    All that and you didn't even paint the stock calipers red.

    • @laserowy_general
      @laserowy_general 4 ปีที่แล้ว +340

      And we all well know unpainted callipers can't stop you like painted one. 🤣
      Red is the best stopping colour.

    • @kyore789
      @kyore789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Why red, always red. Black would be cool if everyone did that.

    • @miguelle4756
      @miguelle4756 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Szymon Bujak
      While we’re at it, I’m gonna paint some flames on my car because I heard it makes you go faster 👀

    • @matheusmoreira9951
      @matheusmoreira9951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@kyore789 late reply, but people usually paint calipers red because of the association to the Brembo brand, since theirs are usually red.

    • @kyore789
      @kyore789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Matheus Moreira: ooooh that makes sense

  • @LiquidCouncil
    @LiquidCouncil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4283

    It’s not about stopping once, it’s about stopping a million times.

    • @Archer28M
      @Archer28M 4 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      4-5 times from 200km/h to 50 km/h in a row and you see what you hawe.

    • @Timbobjr
      @Timbobjr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +297

      How often are you slamming on the brakes going from 50 - 0 mph, over and over in a constant loop until your rotors literally catch on fire? That's one hell of a daily commute

    • @mattcary8075
      @mattcary8075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Timbob Jr you wont people who race are the ones buying them not casual drivers

    • @Timbobjr
      @Timbobjr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@mattcary8075 I don't think somebody who is constantly racing like that will purchase a set of powerstops tho

    • @LiquidCouncil
      @LiquidCouncil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Timbob Jr If you drive on the street, you don’t need RACING parts.

  • @ttiization
    @ttiization 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1514

    The show was just an excuse for James to get a sick Z with Facebook's cash

    • @TheV8Pumpkin
      @TheV8Pumpkin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      And to mod the shit out of it lol

    • @CreeperCustomPaintball
      @CreeperCustomPaintball 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      They paid for everything themselves. Watch the vids

    • @hiramesensei3112
      @hiramesensei3112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@CreeperCustomPaintball Well he does get paid a million $ per ep of Up to Speed.

    • @josephtaylor1330
      @josephtaylor1330 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@hiramesensei3112 He's most definitely not making a million dollars per ep. For one, Donut Media is a media corporation, all the money they make from these videos and sponsors goes right back into the company and paying employees. Also, the way ad revune works isn't like a dollar per view, they make pennies on the dollar per person that watches an ad. He's making decent money for sure but there's a reason why we haven't seen James up and buy a ferrari or do any crazy builds or his dream VWs

    • @hiramesensei3112
      @hiramesensei3112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@josephtaylor1330 It's just a joke he makes mane.

  • @bloodynoobtubename
    @bloodynoobtubename 4 ปีที่แล้ว +700

    It made me sad that you used the caliper as a phone and didn't finish by saying "you're breaking up"

  • @BlackringIII
    @BlackringIII 4 ปีที่แล้ว +662

    "Custom engineering"
    *angle grinder has appeared*

  • @technom3598
    @technom3598 4 ปีที่แล้ว +556

    Absolutely love this series. More entertaining than anything on television

  • @Osprey1994
    @Osprey1994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    That's actually super impressive and makes you understand that if you are going to track a car you want the Wilwood brakes.

    • @duncanmcgee4887
      @duncanmcgee4887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      No. I work for a race team, we're sponsered by Willwood, used to use their kit but for endurance racing their kits don;t cut it. After just a few laps on the track we'd get bad brake fade. Moved to a Brembo 6 piston kit, never gone back

    • @kevin9c1
      @kevin9c1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@duncanmcgee4887 Sounds like a pad issue not a caliper issue.

    • @harisyoung4110
      @harisyoung4110 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      if you really want to setup your car for a race track dont waste your money on wilwood.. get an ap racing, brembo or alcon instead.. my experienced with 6 pot wilwood on my turbo e92 m3 not so great.. the heat dissipation is worse, for my driving style on track i often get a fade and boiling fluid if braking too hard no matter what type of pad it was on.. the warranty also not so great, they refused to replace my crack rotor disc because they said the brake i purchased is not for track use.. its a 6pot, ofcourse we will race with it.. now after using ap racing radical 2 combine with their j hook rotor disc, its really a night and day difference,.

  • @dufonrafal
    @dufonrafal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    7:21 so cheap it only has one headlight :D

  • @simplyvibin5742
    @simplyvibin5742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    “the brake rotors and pads are gonna get super hot, and smell, just like nolan”

  • @erickpalacios8904
    @erickpalacios8904 4 ปีที่แล้ว +719

    "Your brake rotors and pads are gonna get super hot and smell..... Just like Nolan."
    Died. 🤣

  • @progenji6407
    @progenji6407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +636

    Next up:
    "50$ ebay turbo kit vs 12,500$ garrett turbo kit"
    Edit: Don't put poor quality components (or unknown quality components) on your car or motorcycle, especially safety/engine these parts could kill you.

    • @Lemon.666
      @Lemon.666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      *$20 fake turbo whistle from wish

    • @Lofi.z34
      @Lofi.z34 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fast Intentions twin turbo system :')

    • @frankiev116
      @frankiev116 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ProGenji Lol

    • @frankiev116
      @frankiev116 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lemon 🤣🤣

    • @cat-em3mj
      @cat-em3mj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      there are 90$ Chinese turbos for sale on ebay
      Sloppy mechanics use these

  • @user-dt7mi4jq4t
    @user-dt7mi4jq4t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    I live in Lithuania. I learnt english at school. My english is far from perfect. And these guys with jokes like "more better" make me laugh and forget what I've learnt.

    • @omarg6022
      @omarg6022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That English school needs to teach you all to say learned not leant. Although grammatically correct and accepted out of native English speaking countries, it just doesn't make sense. It is spelled like a contraction but isn't one. It's not learn not - it is learned.
      I hope you succeed well, English is such a common language so most native English speaking countries don't have a need to speak another language. As a result most of us aren't multilingual like you will be.

    • @MiraSubieGirl
      @MiraSubieGirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@omarg6022 That is not correct entirely. Russian here hello, this is simply a difference of US and British English.
      Australians, Brits and well spoken Indians will say Learnt.
      Americans and Canadians use Learned.
      Both are correct to their area.

    • @MiraSubieGirl
      @MiraSubieGirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bet you never thought a Russian would come save you huh 😅😅😅 first time for everything!

    • @chloedecker4991
      @chloedecker4991 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly I am not a very tech savvy however I always buy brakes from geobrakes.com
      And they sell on really cheap price but thr quality is good

    • @omarg6022
      @omarg6022 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MiraSubieGirl They’ve learned British English, the original but yet somehow the worst version.

  • @drivenbypassion3634
    @drivenbypassion3634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    7:26 That S13 is looking so nice!

  • @nubbieeee
    @nubbieeee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +452

    Next HiLow video :
    *A thicc boi Nolan vs. The buffest horse in the stable : James*

    • @st.ralphowolabi1511
      @st.ralphowolabi1511 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@fakename287 😂

    • @brentreid8228
      @brentreid8228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      James is dead. All of this is pre-recorded

    • @nubbieeee
      @nubbieeee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brentreid8228 Nice try dumbo

    • @kevinp6812
      @kevinp6812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Juan Cortez Muro Leave.

    • @thatpose3626
      @thatpose3626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brent Reid it is prerecorded but he’s not dead

  • @hMint
    @hMint 4 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    I just love the energy and car-risma the dough boys have

  • @Ultrase7en767
    @Ultrase7en767 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I got a brembo ad while watching this

    • @kazimoz1775
      @kazimoz1775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wanted to buy them but my mechanische sed it makes more noise than a bosh one

    • @theslashmanrc7503
      @theslashmanrc7503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Noice

  • @jerzeydiablo
    @jerzeydiablo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    For a great and cheap option for my C6, I simply use an additional stock drilled rotor with Hawk track pads and steel braided lines. I've done 3 track days so far with amazing success and almost no fade

  • @edwardscissorhands1163
    @edwardscissorhands1163 4 ปีที่แล้ว +536

    Those 5 feet saved can be a life saved, I’ll never feel like a goof for having a solid break system

    • @ayushnaidu3145
      @ayushnaidu3145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      It's "BRAKE" you GOOF 🤣🤣🤣

    • @kevintucker3354
      @kevintucker3354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I have bireaeckes on my kar..

    • @Kwambe5
      @Kwambe5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Alot of people don't realize the difference 5ft can make! That's the difference between you being 5ft into the back of a car or just barely tapping the bumper of said car! Or worse, some child 5ft under your car, vs still standing in front of your car scared poopless!

    • @macse7en
      @macse7en 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@Kwambe5 putting kids under vehicles is pretty fun

    • @justincredible5414
      @justincredible5414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@macse7en no question

  • @diegokleinman8774
    @diegokleinman8774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    The wilwoods are more than my car

    • @oxtoncayde6846
      @oxtoncayde6846 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did I not realize this at all? -.-

    • @marwts
      @marwts 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same😂😂😂😂

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i think the first mod was already worth more than my car

    • @FLmanActual
      @FLmanActual 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yep me my ol 2005 spec v is only worth like 3k lol

    • @pebblez_
      @pebblez_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sean Price thx 4 info

  • @flattopwill
    @flattopwill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I love this series. I’m totally the low guy lol I love bang for buck. You guys should really use your objective results to illustrate the comparison in a percentage. For example the Wilwood brake kit cost 1000% more but only offered a 10% performance improvement (shown in 60-0 tests). There are other attributes like subjective opinions that will influence buying decisions but the % comparison is important.

    • @destin5103
      @destin5103 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well if you're running a track day, the 60-0 isn't the important bit its how many times you can slam on them and corner hard before they start glowing super hot and don't work anymore lmao

  • @justinpharand8454
    @justinpharand8454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love this Hi-Low series. Keep it up with the excellent content!

  • @piusclay
    @piusclay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    “I wouldn’t buy lunch” 😂😂😂

    • @befer
      @befer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I hate your profile pic.

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@befer reminds me of titanic

  • @thewheel3167
    @thewheel3167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly this really convinced me that a BBK is a lot more brake than I would ever need for my car I don't plan to autocross. I may do something closer to low car, but I really appreciate this video series!

  • @nickbrown7044
    @nickbrown7044 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    this makes me want to buy a stock car and slowly buy performance upgrades for it but i have other more important priorities unfortunately 😥

    • @chloedecker4991
      @chloedecker4991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yes you better deal with important things instead of this

  • @A92CB7
    @A92CB7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +501

    James:"I'm just a fkn car boy"
    James: uses a regular socket on an impact gun
    Still love every show👌

    • @matthewbartlett8381
      @matthewbartlett8381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      You can if the bolt isn't really stuck. I do it all the time.

    • @razvanmihalache5680
      @razvanmihalache5680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Really doesn't matter if you don't consistently use the socket. Impact grade sockets cost 2-4 times as much as regular chrome and if you're only using them a few times you'll never really notice it going bad in it's lifetime.

    • @A92CB7
      @A92CB7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah I'm sure but the thing is if I have an impact socket I'd rather not break my regular vs taking another 20 seconds to look for my impact grade, saves me a lot of curse words and a couple $$$, right?

    • @_winter7745
      @_winter7745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@A92CB7 I do this with junk sockets that I don't mind breaking. I thought everyone had a bag of assorted chinesium sockets, and one set you never touch and just keep telling yourself you'll have a job clean enough for them one day.

    • @calvin8199
      @calvin8199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've spent more money on impact sockets than I ever will on replacing broken chrome sockets (FYI never broken one with the impact).

  • @matthewjswider
    @matthewjswider 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Nolan’s wearing the freshest pair of Carhartts I’ve ever seen.

    • @Nightakula
      @Nightakula 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      matthew swider are those shoes?

    • @jfisch
      @jfisch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nightakula Carhartt is a clothing brand and it's the pants that he is wearing.

    • @keenanfitzpatrick9104
      @keenanfitzpatrick9104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Those are so fresh I bet they stand up on their own. And Carhartts are far superior to Dickies.

    • @stirfry4751
      @stirfry4751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keenanfitzpatrick9104 bro you've never swung a hammer in your life. Carhartt is superior for your outfit of the day lol. Sit down sir. In your la-z-boy.

    • @keenanfitzpatrick9104
      @keenanfitzpatrick9104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      STIR FRY woah tough talkin AND triggered but also kinda sweet that you noticed that I do in fact dress really well. So thanks. I worked my way out of swinging a hammer but I pay people that do. Let me know if you want a job but judging by your sentence structure you probably couldn’t lace up my work boots I haven’t put on in 5 years. Night night cupcake 😘

  • @vhal8831
    @vhal8831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this series! Its a good reference for us limited budget car lovers!

  • @codwizard7526
    @codwizard7526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I like how u give info that you give us about the car parts cuz i learn a lot from every vid

  • @DirtRoadAutoRepair
    @DirtRoadAutoRepair 4 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    7:21 is that a burnt out headlight on the low $ car? Lol

  • @leventemontana1755
    @leventemontana1755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Did y'all wiped the brake rotors from protection oil? Because it may've been the cause of fire

    • @Donut
      @Donut  4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      yes lol. we just really hammered on the pads until they lit

    • @oydeekoi8271
      @oydeekoi8271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They lit tho 🔥🔥🔥

    • @Carguy-sp8xj
      @Carguy-sp8xj ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember replacing the brakes on my first car (1992 Ford Thunderbird) and I forgot to wipe the oil off and they caught on fire. Scared the shit out of me 😂😂

  • @victorbouin8238
    @victorbouin8238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing work and fun to watch this Hilow !

  • @borismidnightmechanics3826
    @borismidnightmechanics3826 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y'all guys are so cool n smart. Thank you for making me understand more about your brake cheap or expensive way. Keep up the great work.

  • @datboy5009
    @datboy5009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    James: "Do some custom engineering"
    *saws off the part

  • @elijahone8409
    @elijahone8409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Just a suggestion for anyone wondering, you can get a set of 4 piston Brembo calipers for front and back for around $500. These came stock on some of the Track and Grand Touring 350z trims, like on mine. Fairly cheap and bang for buck investment for what it gives you and definitely a big upgrade over the single piston calipers.

  • @vancecook2171
    @vancecook2171 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this series! Comparing the two z's is dope.

  • @ajh4244
    @ajh4244 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    honestly the best car series on youtube HANDS DOWN. Having two identical cars, and going high cost vs low cost, then comparing and contrasting the results for the viewers, the way they do it....IS FUCKING PERFECT. LITERALLY PERFECT. Keep up the great vids

  • @skywalk78none94
    @skywalk78none94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    I didn’t know X-Rated content was allowed on TH-cam 😏

    • @ElConeoGamer
      @ElConeoGamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Mr88Andrew88 the brakes....

    • @eldergod3556
      @eldergod3556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Mr88Andrew88 yeah idk 8:42 that looks pretty hot to me

    • @ElConeoGamer
      @ElConeoGamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Mr88Andrew88 well someone can't take a joke

    • @skywalk78none94
      @skywalk78none94 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ThisAccountWasOnlyMadeToComment ..... 👀LOL

    • @eldergod3556
      @eldergod3556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mr88Andrew88 i said hot not sexy

  • @Kyle-ty6mx
    @Kyle-ty6mx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Never cheap out on safety related parts like brakes!

    • @teriyakiarchives
      @teriyakiarchives 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      true

    • @alexsupertramp4907
      @alexsupertramp4907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      They are still better than factory ones

    • @jimmyschwarz9075
      @jimmyschwarz9075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@alexsupertramp4907 i think He means that you should Not buy your safety related carparts in China

    • @mistamaog
      @mistamaog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Carbon ceramics it is then!

    • @ralfinodyanu.l647
      @ralfinodyanu.l647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mistamaog those carbon brakes are more expensive than my WHOLE motor😂 and my car has an sr20

  • @randomtoyotadude8952
    @randomtoyotadude8952 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinda love when u talk in the end.. you really are 2 very decent humble guys.. love it

  • @MatthewH2000
    @MatthewH2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a great video. Entertaining and really informative!

  • @Lemurai
    @Lemurai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I was blessed to have an engineer father with a machining side hobby, it was so much fun doing stuff like this and attempting to destroy his other projects, to be honest I’d take good brakes and suspension over too much horsepower any day, but I like the twisties more so than drag racing but still, brakes should be a #1 priority in any fast car.

  • @bbservices7434
    @bbservices7434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    We appreciate these comparisons do more!

  • @nathski22
    @nathski22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love how Nolan’s T-shirt in the intro has clearly just come out of the packet haha

  • @The3dprintice
    @The3dprintice ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the energy of this team

  • @S42069
    @S42069 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    At the end of this series, you should sell the cars to see who makes more profit.

    • @AlienFreak69
      @AlienFreak69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Modified cars lose their value. You're better off selling the parts separately.

    • @RatelHBadger
      @RatelHBadger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What is this, Top Gear or Wheeler Dealers?

    • @brentreid8228
      @brentreid8228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sounds stupid

    • @S42069
      @S42069 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AlienFreak69 That wasn't the point of my suggestion. But if you consider time spent disassembling the vehicle, is it really worth it?

    • @BPBomber
      @BPBomber 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spencer Bane - That’s brilliant!

  • @jamesjames6137
    @jamesjames6137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I'm commenting so the youtube algorithm recommends the video so Nolan gets a raise

    • @Zoloxer
      @Zoloxer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It worked

  • @michaelrobillard7477
    @michaelrobillard7477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love what you guys make, keep it up.

  • @shivenwalia4501
    @shivenwalia4501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Some custom engineering
    Grinder noises and sparks fly everywhere
    Prefect

  • @ingiorbirgisson7907
    @ingiorbirgisson7907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    this series is amazing you sould do a similar one on netflix

  • @LucoreAuto
    @LucoreAuto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Really really glad to see you guys turning out a series like this, with honest straight forward comparisons. Most of us little channels out here couldn't pull this off but with the Donut Empire in full swing, thank y'all for showing us!

    • @doomkid02
      @doomkid02 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love your guy's channel 👌

  • @20tea
    @20tea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got some aftermarket slotted and drilled rotors with ceramic pads and noticed a nice improvement on my 6.2 Yukon Denali. Less brake fade and it stops a bit quicker as well. It works for me and for the price. Wilwood kits are expensive, but replacement pads are an arm and a leg as well. Not ready to front that money for brakes yet. Supercharger first!

  • @madmike5144
    @madmike5144 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very fun to watch...Thanks for sharing with us

  • @thebad300
    @thebad300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    unless you are on a track you don't need the willwoods

    • @someusername121
      @someusername121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      thebad300 this. There is no scenario where you need to do a BBK on a street car. Put the money in tires.

    • @Audfile
      @Audfile 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Unless the willwoods will save you from DYING

    • @thebad300
      @thebad300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      @@Audfile if that's the case you are driving way to fast on the street

    • @Audfile
      @Audfile 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@thebad300 why are you using performance brakes on the street? To stop better?

    • @MyNameIsLucid
      @MyNameIsLucid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      even on a track, you dont always need BBK.. in the video they used street pads in track conditions, of course they faded. if they were using something like carbotech xps10/12 this would not have happened and would of been pretty on par with the wilwoods.

  • @dalaanibombina8822
    @dalaanibombina8822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how James’ brake kit is big and black. ☺️

    • @kevintucker3354
      @kevintucker3354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      James brakes for big black things...

    • @amonkey4707
      @amonkey4707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BBB
      Big
      Black
      Brakes

  • @seanoreilly1832
    @seanoreilly1832 ปีที่แล้ว

    This series is so good

  • @simonevans343
    @simonevans343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    THERES NOT MANY VIDEOS I WATCH MORE THAN ONCE BUT THE JAMES AND NOLAN SHOW HAS ME LAUGHING EVERY TIME . I REALLY ENJOY YOUR OUTPUT

  • @lizziea5480
    @lizziea5480 4 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Hey I just wanted to say...
    *"More better"*

  • @paulmartin1784
    @paulmartin1784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm excited for when they're going to do the High/Low on some Whirly Bois!

  • @brett2themax
    @brett2themax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Half way to 10 million. Get it Nolan!

  • @TheSarcasticEngineer
    @TheSarcasticEngineer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly guys, I fricken love you for doing this. This kinda stuff keeps me up at night, it's nice to see someone doing this sort of testing.
    Oh, you're half way to 10M views.

  • @Blaster2392
    @Blaster2392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is such a good series! Look forward to every new episode :)

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The part of the video that surprised me was the FIRE. I've never seen that on a street car and would freak out if that happened to me. Also I've had brake fade on a downhill drive. That's very scary to think your car would be stoping and it wouldn't. Luckily nothing happened to me or the passenger.

    • @specialopsdave
      @specialopsdave 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you're getting fade on hills, you should really begin using engine braking. Fade should only be an issue in passenger cars when you perform multiple successive panic stops. Here's a video on how to engine brake: th-cam.com/video/WaOtK6VutWQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @heroichitsuji
      @heroichitsuji 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Specialopsdave glad to see someone addressed this already

    • @WarriorsPhoto
      @WarriorsPhoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Specialopsdave This is what I learned and started doing. Thank you for the reminder. You are appreciated. (:

    • @WarriorsPhoto
      @WarriorsPhoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chad Kanner You are correct.

  • @lily_the_Lovely
    @lily_the_Lovely ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this series because I've been genuinely thinking about buying a 350z recently to have fun with.

  • @vinceleary907
    @vinceleary907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Nolan's like: I wouldn't buy lunch!"
    Lmao

  • @pj_morrison
    @pj_morrison 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Looking to soon swap out my pads and rotors, I needed this video💪🏽

  • @henrydorsettcase5419
    @henrydorsettcase5419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I feel like the more cheap mods you keep on the "low" car the worse it performs so you can't see a difference between specific parts.

    • @TheGoreforce
      @TheGoreforce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The suspension, I am going to assume OEM is actually better. So, maybe.

    • @avivmizrachi4382
      @avivmizrachi4382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly. I feel this whole comparison is already just for entertainment.

  • @gerardoguzmanroman3519
    @gerardoguzmanroman3519 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the videos guys :D

  • @iancrosson9513
    @iancrosson9513 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nolan is the perfect Low car boy and while that sounds like a insult it's not. Keep em coming!

  • @seanshaeen5971
    @seanshaeen5971 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Honestly I have a 2002 Honda Civic value package (crazy to think it’s almost 18 years old holy shit), but I find these videos so entertaining and informative that I can’t stop watching it.

  • @Squireissocoolie
    @Squireissocoolie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been waiting for this all week.

  • @marcosruiz6573
    @marcosruiz6573 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved this layout so much more

  • @MrLathor
    @MrLathor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Like with all of these upgrades, it totally depends on use case. With constant hard track driving, good brakes are a necessity, not an option. One of the biggest factors in allowing you to get the most from the car.

  • @Robotech04
    @Robotech04 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love my Wilwoods. Good stuff guys.

  • @SpyderRocket
    @SpyderRocket 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    4:29 why I watch Donut 😂 I love the cray cray moments 🤗

  • @JohnSalchichon95
    @JohnSalchichon95 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this test

  • @MrCatreal
    @MrCatreal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chris fix is the man
    I love his content

  • @eliasdurl6830
    @eliasdurl6830 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You guys really look like good brothers like actual brothers. Love 🍩

  • @teriyakiarchives
    @teriyakiarchives 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it's 2am and I'm here watching HiLow

  • @judahweesner2651
    @judahweesner2651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    lol 0:56 Nolan's box, "Do not fragile stack."

  • @brownsugar7950
    @brownsugar7950 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6.2 million views almost at 10 million Nolan that raise is on its way!

  • @captinmurphy1999
    @captinmurphy1999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This time I was this early james was hosting bumper 2 bumper

  • @BitBam
    @BitBam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    your brake caliper phone bit needed a "listen, can you stop? im on camera" cuz ya know, its a brake caliper

  • @griptopia
    @griptopia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's brilliant that you guys are doing this (i'm and engineer / ok mechanic) A friend fitted dinner plate sized brembos on his car. They are amazing. However on another friends similar car with normal road use you cannot feel the difference. However under heavy track use the cheaper ones needed cool down time and the other car stayed out on track the whole session. It's all very interesting. Lets face it most people won't be hitting the track so the racing spec is overkill. But it's really nice to know that brake upgrades are one of the best things you can do to your car. (just not great for the person braking behind you) Great show, proving what we have been trying to tell people for years. However if you want to go balls to the wall amazing everything carry on. It's only money and if you love the look, express yourself with what you feel looks the best right? March to the beat of your own drum (disc) Keep up the super cool work and love the editing ! your video guy is doing a great job.

  • @seanwienecke5057
    @seanwienecke5057 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    When a wildwood break system is more expensive than the car I bought...

  • @Luke_Edmonds
    @Luke_Edmonds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So lads what we’ve learnt is that bigger is better no matter what people say

  • @KaseysYouTubeChannel
    @KaseysYouTubeChannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The phone conversation shows how incredibly talented James is!😂😂😂💛

  • @khalidkhansrunix
    @khalidkhansrunix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos, appreciate you making it.. What product/brakes/rotors etc.. will give me Brembo like performances.. but maybe half the cost.. or something like that..

  • @rowan64official
    @rowan64official 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This series was cool

  • @mr.tekkers5034
    @mr.tekkers5034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Bart and science garage when?

    • @jackhughman282
      @jackhughman282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!

    • @hussamal-jamal302
      @hussamal-jamal302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
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      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!
      WE WANT BART!

    • @TheLegoxD
      @TheLegoxD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Bart isn't comming back. And Donut doesn't want to continue the show with out bart, because it wouldn't be the same

    • @gl4333
      @gl4333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not happening. Donut and Bart parted ways, you can check Nolan's post on the subreddit

    • @hsanc72598
      @hsanc72598 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gl4333 wait just tell us wtf happened to Bart. I'm not finna read a whole reddit post or whatevrr

  • @govspy8780
    @govspy8780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I want to know more about that phone conversation 😂😂

  • @Haleysjeep
    @Haleysjeep 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are real. And real funny. Keep it real.

  • @princearthur2308
    @princearthur2308 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really liking this thingy

  • @FATmenDRIVEtrucks
    @FATmenDRIVEtrucks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Can you do this test again but put race pads on budget build? It'll handle the heat better and a true budget mechanic swaps pads on track days

    • @sepg5084
      @sepg5084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      they put improved pads on the budget build.
      i wish they at least tried to find a cheap multi-piston caliper for the cheap car. $400 vs $4000 is pretty obvious, $2000 vs $4000 will be a bit more reasonable. but if there are no $2000 big brake + caliper kits available, i guess this is the only way to test.

    • @demonslayerx061
      @demonslayerx061 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sep G centric posi quiet isn’t really an upgrade. The test would have been better if the same brake pad material was used on both cars. For obvious reasons the bigger brake kit will have a lot more consistent stops.

  • @nicholaslokos7949
    @nicholaslokos7949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    "Are you talking to your girlfriend over the phone again?!"
    "No Dad, I'm talking to her with a brake caliper, just like you asked!"

    • @sethkaufman2107
      @sethkaufman2107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      *caliper

    • @sethkaufman2107
      @sethkaufman2107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@itssDrake First of all, I have been working on cars my entire life, I think I'm qualified. Secondly, he is calling the girl with a caliper, not a brake pad (4:31). Thirdly, caliber is the size opening of the end of a tube, commonly used to describe guns. I'm an aerospace engineer and believe I'm a little more knowledgeable than you, a thirteen year old kid on the internet. Thanks for your feedback however!

    • @R.Sinnia
      @R.Sinnia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sethkaufman2107 dude, you roasted him like a turkey.

    • @sethkaufman2107
      @sethkaufman2107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@R.Sinnia Yeah, he deleted his 3 comments after that😂

    • @R.Sinnia
      @R.Sinnia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sethkaufman2107 yeah, I didn't even see anyone of his comments as he deleted it before I came here. From your reply, I think he said you are a "English teacher" or something like that. 😂😂

  • @damsbb2440
    @damsbb2440 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy this channel blew up

  • @baja_black
    @baja_black 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats why very impressed about the breaking system that the trophy trucks are running, making the trophy truck ( a tt weights around 5,000lbs) stop so quickly in over 19 hrs striaght, literally i've seen the rotors in red alive at 3am in the last years baja 1000.
    Cool video guys!