@@Nonius9 At least, we're glad to see mechanical shutter in Sony Xperia phones. ND filter is something I really miss a lot! I thought OnePlus is going to have that feature for the new 8 Pro, turns out that I am so wrong.
The 808 could take these amazing photos back in 2012, no need of AI processing, multicore CPUs , gigs of RAM and other marketing bs.. Nokia was truly innovative back then.
An 8 year old phone still able to compete today's flagship without processing prowess and AI is definitely incredible. If Nokia had kept going it would've been the most incredible camera today. Even Nokia 9 pentalens camera was incredible for raw footage. Would love to see those engineers back for such brand
Social media and Camera comparisons weren't that big back then and people were happy to have a smartphone with camera rather than have a smartphone with a good camera. The same sensor but improved with the same lens, OIS, and modern processing would beat everything. Also, Symbian wasn't really a reason to buy a Nokia phone i guess.
Ur completely wrong. Just look at the software it was on a dead platform called simbia, you need a balanced experience you don't want a potato with a camera that is 5 years ahead of its time , plus the Nokia just looks so dated up against iPhone 4s
@@anuragrai612 don't speak in his behalf . Back then nobody gave F about social media and mostly wanted phone that has best camera . You may been in diapers when it came out
Samsung: *Better dynamic Range, brighter image but a bit more saturated.* 808 PV: *Better detail, true to life colors, but sometimes a bit too contrasty.*
If a firmware upgrade would exist to add some computational photography and that Nokia over contrasted profile would be adjusted. They would go more hand in hand.
Having only 512Mb of ram and a single core 1.3Ghz cpu I think the 808 software did pretty well, maybe if the specs were higher the results would've been even better. Symbian might have been old and outdated but it was the most optimized and efficient os.
It would be something like $2000 minimum. The closest phone to the old PureViews is the P40 Pro+ and its $1600. Now add to that price because Foxconn will not produce as many Nokias as Huawei will produce P40 Pro+s.
Don't forget the solid build of that phone. Incomparable to the expensive, designed to break junk from today. Of course this company had to be killed in this market. Thank you, US.
@@krollpeter It was certainly rugged, but not a lot of people would buy such a thick phone nowadays. Compared to lets say the OnePlus 8 Pro, its twice as thick basically,, with a TINY screen. If it was made today it would be probably a lot thinner and a lot bigger in length and height. What I really miss is the good old aluminum phones, everything is glass now, so i have to basically run a screen protector on both the back of my phone and on the front of it...
@@birtalanlorant5572 "thick" is no problem for me, particularly as it allows for a bigger camera sensor and a bigger battery! What's really uncomfortable instead, is the fact nowadays smartphones are getting larger and larger and don't fit into any pocket anymore! Thanks god they're thin 😅🤷
When it comes to hardware specs, zoom, and image noise, the S20 Ultra is definitely much better than the 808. But as for detail purity and colour accuracy? Undoubtedly the 808, hands down.
@@lanceocampo9467 You clearly need to check your eyes again. Detail =/= oversharpening. And another thing: Don't watch the video on smartphones, I also thought the S20 Ultra has better detail until I watch the video again on my 27" FHD PC monitor. The result was completely the other way around.
@@lanceocampo9467 Dude, I also have an XDR Display. But to call someone a Nokia fanboy just because you say that the S20 Ultra has better detail is totally laughable! Even for an Samsung and Apple guy like me, I'm with OP hands down. The 1:57 may show brighter sign, but the cement on top of the sign is utter crap! Even the cement on the 808 look miles better! I only agree with you on 3:08, but that's because the S20 Ultra has far better dynamic range than the 808 (which comes as no surprise). But apart from that, everything else is a total joke for the S20 Ultra! P.S About his so-called cringey profile icon and cringey header, please google up the term 'cosplay' tqvm.
@@lanceocampo9467 this same applies to you both r camera legends due to 2012 nokia still wins reason Samsung can't even think of 41 mp in 2012 but nokia did u r also a samsung fan boy what r u talking bro.
S20U is way better because it's not a potato with a great camera , it can go upto 16 gigs of ram, best display (imo), SD865 and most importantly real imaging processing software.
Yeah, from year to year all brands claim a huge progress but in fact they lie. They just slow down old devices and make their camera worse with software updates in order to make new one look better. I found my old pictures of Nokia n82 and compared to my iPhone XR, the difference is so small
riight,, i thought the video will about some dude talking bla bla blarrrghhh with every detail noone needs,,, but then... here is the video we all long to see!
808 Pureview user here. Been comparing it with all the high priced phones launched from 2011 onwards. In daylight pics any other smartphone simply can't beat 808. Its daylight photos are comparable to a DSLR. It's amazing how an 8 year old phone still puts today's high end flagship phones to the dust. It doesn't support 4g, but it surely is mini-DSLR. I'm keeping this one with me until it works, it still works like a charm after 8 years no service needed till date. Some of my friends have used this phone for professional photography. The output is phenomenal. I like the pictures you've taken, if possible, please make a video - tricks (customisation settings) to take better pictures with Nokia 808 Pureview.
Yeah of course, Damian even stated that Samsung statement about largest camera sensor is wrong. Damian said even the 8 year old 808 is still even bigger than Samsung ones
@@aaivilchip marketing, phones market fake things like "Snapdragon 845, 6 gb ram, 100 megapixel" and purposely make old phones bad th. software updates
No doubt a modern flagship clearly wins, but the pictures doesn't depict the 8 year time gap, in some cases the pictures of Nokia crushed Samsung especially the hi res ones
I choose the Nokia in most shots. Sure there is more noise, and the highlights are more blown out. But there is more detail, and the image is mostly sharper and the colours are far better. Very surprising that these are so close. DXOmark should do this phone hahaha.
Not in every aspects..... Look at the dynamic range of the 808,its incredible, those are quite natural and pleasing... When you are compareing the details S20 is a clear winner...
Still have my 808. Thanks for uploading this as it reminded me to charge and use it again under lockdown and see what a tremendously wonderful invention it was!
Winston Tongco, I still have over 10GB of Belle Programs and tools for my Nokia 808 :) Custom Delight 808 ROM v1.5.0 and still works perfectly. To unlock the full potential of the camera CameraPro app is the best one ever made. The developer made specific N8 and 808PV software and it is incredible. The factory Camera App is does the job but the CameraPro is pure heaven😎
@@marktakacs8117 What are the main benefits of using a custom rom for 808? I saw that you wound unlock some features of the phone, but nothing better for the camera.
4:08 was just brutal. And that`s the reason, why I carry a Nokia 808 PureView in my other pocket at all times. Not when it`s getting dark, because it doesn`t stand a chance, but any other time it`s picture output is just so much better, without that unnecessary sharpening, processing and over saturated colors. It`s just amazing, how well that Nokia still can compete against best of the best 8 years later.
Oh heck off, that's ignorant the phone has no image processing plus the software is on s completely dead platform You don't need a potato with a 41mp camera
Wow! Imagine if that phone had all the processing capabilities we have now. And to imagine this one was realeased 10 years ago and how close the some of the images look from each other (and some were more natural on the 808, and also, lesser digital sharpening) is just so good to just even think about. That lowlight on the 808 without a dedicated night mode is quite impressive.
@@MohiSyed these will be more or less the same as recent flasgships. Nokia was doing pixel binning back in 2012 with 808. The n8, 808 and 1020 both had a physical nd filter that used to pop out during bright scenes. So even samsung variable aperture isn’t something ground breaking. They introduced floating lens(ois) in phones with the 920 (2012). Just think what 8 years worth of continuous research would have produced today. It took samsung 8 years to put a sensor nearly as big as the 808 in a phone and 808 still didnt have any focus/edge blurring issues because nokia used proper zeiss optics on their cameras. I started doing photography because of phones like n70, 73, 93i, 82, 95 and n8 and now I'm a full time professional photographer. Nokia's products were inspiring and ambitious for their times. Nokia was pushing clear black amoled displays since 2010 which we now call.super amoleds. The only real problem is that they ditched the n9's ui (meego was the name afaik). It was better than anything available at that moment. It had the gestures that ios brought with Iphone X and android followed. Nokia was 10 years ahead of its competition yet they failed because they were sabotaged internally by Stephen Elope.
Yeah I remember the days when Nokia came up with a phone with some new tech like every six months or so. Now all phones are kind of same and there have been only specs upgrades since 2010.
pretty close i should say. depending on what DSLR. if its an entry level DSLR or semi-pro, or pro. ive used the younger brother of 808 the 1020 and it was awesome. i just ditched my point and shot camera and started using the 1020 as my quick snapper. the manual mode, the lossless zoom is just so fun to play with.
@@tkipiani91 I remember when I was a kid and my dad got notification of the ad that New Nokia was released just a few sec ago. He was a big fan of Nokia and wanted the Phone. How much did the phone it cost?
@@eliasblanco3374 I use mine when I go hiking, there's no better camera that I can take to mountains it's small, light, battery life is good and let's not forget that it's a phone too and with great reception.
After all these years, you'd expect a modern flagship to blow the Nokia 808 out the water but it holds up pretty well. It does struggle with dynamic range though.
Oh, my God, despite the difference years and time, it's still a really fierce competitor. This phone is a legend ZEISS pure view is the secret of camera strength
Nokia 808 luv... I still own one it’s screen protector is still on my second 808 bought in 2015. It happened to be the last piece available in Oman and I drove 300kms from my city to buy it..😍😘 just fantastic camera no post editing required after clicking pics.❤️
8 years apart and still so much similar! I am blown away. Have they (nokia) hidden this tech anywhere now? Think the technology was ready but all the other brands made it seem like an upgrade every year :|
Yeah, I can believe that. Sure that it cannot capture RAW and doesn't have on-board stabilization (which is a real shame), but the oversampled 808 can definitely produce far better photo quality than the Nona Bayer binned S20 Ultra.
नोकिया में एक राजा होने के पूर्ण गुण है जब नोकिया के ८ वर्ष पूराने फोन के केमरा के समक्ष ये सेमसंग नहीं टिक पा रहा तो फिर इस समय के फोन से क्या तुलना होगी इनकी नोकिया के साथ
I still use my 808 for moon images. I've also done timelapses of eclipses with some third party apps on it that work incredibly well considering the age of the device and the lack of support for the OS.
God the 808 still is amazing in spite of being 8 years behind in processing power and AI. Imagine if it is launched again with today’s specs! It wud be a killer!
I had Huawei Mate 20 Pro, Nokia 9 PureView and Xiaomi Mi Note 10 (atm) - but my dear Nokia 808 PureView is still (!!) always in my other pocket and I still use it often. NOKIA 808 PureView (2012) has many advantages that today's flagships don't have: + much bigger sensor size (1/1.2") than (also huge) Mi Note 10 + Xenon flash (and also LED) + camera has actually shutter + dedicated 2-stage camera button + FM transmitter (not just receiver!!) - yeah... I actually use this ocasionally + HDMI out (for quickly connecting to any display/projector) --> BigScreen app is very good for presenting stuff - and you can pair it with Nintendo Wii mote for easier navigating and presentation + awsome durability (2012-2020 without any kind of extra protection - phone has been really through alot - and still works superb!! =) + design - I love this camera bump! It feels great in hand. + quick OS... ;)) + swappable battery (I have 3 full batteries with myself when I go into wild) :) + very convenient (led) tourch - just hold phone lock button (yeah... that extra button also) + 3,5 mm headphone jack
some one pls give this guy a medal, for his photography skills........ well undoubtedly Nokia was the OG thing or I would say the god father of them all.......
Say Samsung to Start Using Carl Zeiss instead of others i really impressed by Images taken by S20 Ultra, But still an Advanced Smartphone of current time and old Gizzer doing battle here, as i can see Old Geezer still beating Youngest here, I am still compering my Nokia 8 with all smart phones I buy today, N8 still rivals current technology, but 808 purview as successor of N8 Beating this youngest here with Single Snapper. It may not use full resolution scale but beating up right now.
That 808 has a classic phone cam, groundbreaking at the time... and can go toe-to-toe with one of the current flagships 8 years later is testament to its strength of having a large sensor (physical size, not just pixel count). It's a sweetheart.
I was never a big fan of Samsung's processing. The 808 still has a physically larger sensor btw ;p If it had the HDR capability from today's computing while keeping the natural look, it would be better in most situations
Most people don't know what plays part in a camera. Tbh the only thing holding that camera Slightly back was processing. But there's a reason why that camera takes up a huge lump
Modern smartphones has processing power to process the RAW image in real time, such as turning the highlight curve down, or upping the shadows, or stack 2 or more images, so it looks like the image has better dynamic range.
I've used multiple lumia phones... The cameras in those are awesome... I still miss that camera... That camera ui... Exceptional... And way ahead of the generation...
I had a friend who has a Nokia 808. Way back 2013 that Phone is so awesome when i was first saw it. He tells me that even a photographer is so amazed by his phone during that time.
I had 808PV, L1020 and most of the flagship phones up until P20 Pro. The 808PV and then the P20Pro have me the most joy and impression. The 808PV has this very dreamy bokeh and smooth color profile, especially the sky. It tends to look like a film camera. It took them so long to catch up eh? But then we must admit the current crop of sensors and processing are very good. The dynamic range is incredible. Just that it took them so long.
This comment section is full of clueless people. This phone wasn't "underappreciated", it was simply a product for nobody, filling a niche nobody needed to be filled. It came out when social media boom was starting out and it ran on Symbian, which was a dying system already being replaced by Windows Phone (rip) on Nokias and being rapidly outpaced by iOS and even Android, which was pretty primitive back then. So nobody would buy it for social media because Symbian didn't even have dedicated IG and Snapchat apps, and even if it had, nobody would have noticed the better photo quality because phone screens at the time were super low res. As for other niche, photography enthusiasts, they'd just buy a cheap phone and a better dedicated camera, which would still be cheaper than this phone at the time. Don't get me wrong, the tech here is amazing. But it's no wonder it flopped. Why buy this and have a subpar software experience when you could've bought an iPhone 4S or a Galaxy S3 with comparable camera quality when viewing on their screens (which is what matters for 99% of people) and incomparably better software with actual social media apps
I still have this Nokia 808, i have converted it into portable digicam & mp3 player..Damn its camera is still fantastic.. People get amazed to see its performance even nowadays..
Nokia was so ahead of everyone in camera space in that time, even Lumias.
might have something to do with the Zeiss lense.
@@notloki3140 That could be related. Iirc, Zeiss use glass for the lens of the 808 camera.
now the Lumias turned into the Lunatic.
They had the best lens
Agreed💯
Just imagine 808 with todays software and tech
Yeah ! Exactly
Take my money 💰
Umm..that is literally what s20 is
Masterpiece in 2020
Yesssss
S20 ULTRA: DOUBLE LED FLASH
NOKIA 808: XENON FLASH WITH CARL ZEISS LENS.
wish flash was used at night on both in this comparison
xenon will produce better pictures miles ahead of led no matter the software trick
Also Nokia 808: Mechanical shutter and physical ND filter...
@@Nonius9 At least, we're glad to see mechanical shutter in Sony Xperia phones. ND filter is something I really miss a lot! I thought OnePlus is going to have that feature for the new 8 Pro, turns out that I am so wrong.
@@farishanafiah8461 Well sony is also a maker of DSLR
even old htc phones have excellent camera results than new generation phones. i had this nokia pure view 808 it was a good camera phone
Samsung : *Releases S20 Ultra*
An 8 year old Nokia : *"Finally a worthy opponent"*
Our battle will be legendary
Also nokia: Don't worry, it'll be painless
@@dagamingarea4479 what a comment 😂😂🙏👍👍👏👏
true......
@@sim_simma8688 how does it feel today? Do you want to change it?
The 808 could take these amazing photos back in 2012, no need of AI processing, multicore CPUs , gigs of RAM and other marketing bs.. Nokia was truly innovative back then.
Haha Samsung and AI processing? Nearly everytime I take a picture with my S10 its overbright and I need to adjust it! 😂
it had a dedicated chip for image signal processing as the cpu was not fast enough
An 8 year old phone still able to compete today's flagship without processing prowess and AI is definitely incredible. If Nokia had kept going it would've been the most incredible camera today.
Even Nokia 9 pentalens camera was incredible for raw footage. Would love to see those engineers back for such brand
Morden day phone cameras are mostly using AI pictures look stupidly edited..Are far from. Reality... That's why DSLR is a DSLR
You are right
AI is just to fool people & Nothing else. In photography many things is hardware
@@mayankorigins25 well.it depends on the sensor size.You see 808's camera setup is quite bulky.the means it has a bigger sensor size.😃😇🙂
@@abhirawat300 nokia 7.2 for example
Fall of Nokia & Kodak:
we did everything right but not at the right time. That's why we lost.
They were ahead of the generation... We simply didn't understand their worth...
@@d_doctographer sometimes too much ahead of current generation may also causes the downfall.
That is what happened in this case...
Heart touching line by CEO
I wish nokia adapt android in 2013...
Without AI and so much ram and latest processor, Nokia is absolutely best .
Without a lot of lens...
@@viniciusgom.s that's true
@doctorMENGELE007 subjectively speaking, I prefer photos from the 808. they're overall more pleasant
Dude Nokia 8 year older phone
@doctorMENGELE007 no I m not but.. the fact is Nokia is much older than s20, still we are comparing
Nokia has been way ahead of its time.
People just didn't appreciate it as much, they rather bought an broken iPhone then a proper phone.
Social media and Camera comparisons weren't that big back then and people were happy to have a smartphone with camera rather than have a smartphone with a good camera. The same sensor but improved with the same lens, OIS, and modern processing would beat everything. Also, Symbian wasn't really a reason to buy a Nokia phone i guess.
*than
@@petouser very true, ni comparidiin videos or youtubers at that time
Ur completely wrong. Just look at the software it was on a dead platform called simbia, you need a balanced experience you don't want a potato with a camera that is 5 years ahead of its time , plus the Nokia just looks so dated up against iPhone 4s
@@anuragrai612 don't speak in his behalf . Back then nobody gave F about social media and mostly wanted phone that has best camera . You may been in diapers when it came out
Who came here from after Mrwhostheboss video???🤣🤣
Haha that guy was chatting s****
LoL. He was only looking at overall quality without closer inspection which phone has better detail output.
@@milze_claw More than that, he only show a single pic for like ten seconds, and that's it. I immediately know I cannot trust him on that matter.
@@farishanafiah8461 link The video you are talking about. Pls
@@frackjohn Here you go: th-cam.com/video/mZR7LOhu1FI/w-d-xo.html
Samsung: *Better dynamic Range, brighter image but a bit more saturated.*
808 PV: *Better detail, true to life colors, but sometimes a bit too contrasty.*
Accurate 💯
But...2012 😊😁
2012 dude,
100% correct
If a firmware upgrade would exist to add some computational photography and that Nokia over contrasted profile would be adjusted. They would go more hand in hand.
Nokia : Camera do they Real Job
S20 : Software do they magic
That's a good thing.
Plus look at pixel phones
@@anuragrai612 finally, I found the person who’s not a Nokia shill. Lol
Combine both and let the "really magical job" begin.
Damn the Nokia was soo ahead of its time. It's so damn underrated.
Just like your comment here 😋
Nokia didn't promoted that phone they were completely onto windows phone at that time
I would say that the 808 is limited by its software quite heavily.
Imagine if it had better software...
Having only 512Mb of ram and a single core 1.3Ghz cpu I think the 808 software did pretty well, maybe if the specs were higher the results would've been even better. Symbian might have been old and outdated but it was the most optimized and efficient os.
It could see the future 😂
For 2012, it did tremendous great.
It can play games, but social messaging apps were a no-no.
@@mikimouse3001 Well if you ever bought a camera, you know your camera certainly doesn't need Android or a 8 Core Processor to take great photos.
How I wish 808 re-release but with latest processor, and Android.
It would be something like $2000 minimum. The closest phone to the old PureViews is the P40 Pro+ and its $1600. Now add to that price because Foxconn will not produce as many Nokias as Huawei will produce P40 Pro+s.
Don't forget the solid build of that phone. Incomparable to the expensive, designed to break junk from today.
Of course this company had to be killed in this market. Thank you, US.
@@krollpeter It was certainly rugged, but not a lot of people would buy such a thick phone nowadays. Compared to lets say the OnePlus 8 Pro, its twice as thick basically,, with a TINY screen. If it was made today it would be probably a lot thinner and a lot bigger in length and height. What I really miss is the good old aluminum phones, everything is glass now, so i have to basically run a screen protector on both the back of my phone and on the front of it...
Latest processor, yes!
Android? Sorry, not me.
@@birtalanlorant5572 "thick" is no problem for me, particularly as it allows for a bigger camera sensor and a bigger battery! What's really uncomfortable instead, is the fact nowadays smartphones are getting larger and larger and don't fit into any pocket anymore! Thanks god they're thin 😅🤷
When it comes to hardware specs, zoom, and image noise, the S20 Ultra is definitely much better than the 808. But as for detail purity and colour accuracy? Undoubtedly the 808, hands down.
nokia colurs ko oversaturate kar raha h
@@lanceocampo9467 You clearly need to check your eyes again. Detail =/= oversharpening. And another thing: Don't watch the video on smartphones, I also thought the S20 Ultra has better detail until I watch the video again on my 27" FHD PC monitor. The result was completely the other way around.
@@FAT8893 gotcha
@@lanceocampo9467 Dude, I also have an XDR Display. But to call someone a Nokia fanboy just because you say that the S20 Ultra has better detail is totally laughable! Even for an Samsung and Apple guy like me, I'm with OP hands down.
The 1:57 may show brighter sign, but the cement on top of the sign is utter crap! Even the cement on the 808 look miles better! I only agree with you on 3:08, but that's because the S20 Ultra has far better dynamic range than the 808 (which comes as no surprise). But apart from that, everything else is a total joke for the S20 Ultra!
P.S About his so-called cringey profile icon and cringey header, please google up the term 'cosplay' tqvm.
@@lanceocampo9467 this same applies to you both r camera legends due to 2012 nokia still wins reason Samsung can't even think of 41 mp in 2012 but nokia did u r also a samsung fan boy what r u talking bro.
Old is gold
I miss you Nokia. I wish you’ll do better like before. What an Era 2000-2010 true king 👑
Since Huawei is now gone (because of Google issue) check out the new Nokia 8.3 android. Im getting one this year.
Nokia was there during the 90's and end of the 90's they started making cool small phones 97-98-99
True 👌
HMD Global "Nokia" brand isn't real Nokia... no true pureview successor after Lumia 1020!
Amazing how 8 year old technology can still be on par with todays phones, a bit of colour grading and sharpening and no one would have a clue
Even my S4 at that time still can't be compared to this
S20 ultra to nokia: am i joke to you
Nokia 808: yeah boyyyy
Nokia: A bad one at that.
Your comment doesn't even make sense. The S20 has a better shot almost every time..
@@nickmotsarsky4382 lol, not really :) but it's close.
S20U is way better because it's not a potato with a great camera , it can go upto 16 gigs of ram, best display (imo), SD865 and most importantly real imaging processing software.
@@anuragrai612 are u fool or something like that it realeased in 2012. that time u r fuckin samsung dont have even a 8 mp camera phone
Lol... almost 8 years difference 🥰
Nokia 👍👍👍
@Marques EveridgeThat's the truth let's see what NOKIA HMD WILL GIVE TO US IN COMMING TIME
So basically we are organised fools.. 🧐👏
Best comment so far after corona
Yeah, from year to year all brands claim a huge progress but in fact they lie. They just slow down old devices and make their camera worse with software updates in order to make new one look better. I found my old pictures of Nokia n82 and compared to my iPhone XR, the difference is so small
@@MrLeonardodv I do same with my Nokia N73.. 🧐😵
MrLeonardodv do not exaggerate.
Rich one's too apparently
When I saw the title, I thought it was gonna be a dumb comparison until I watched it and oh boy did it make my jaw drop
this isn't every creator dump
riight,, i thought the video will about some dude talking bla bla blarrrghhh with every detail noone needs,,, but then... here is the video we all long to see!
pick it up or you might not be able to eat
@@bradregan7889 Ye true I'mma do that
808 Pureview user here. Been comparing it with all the high priced phones launched from 2011 onwards. In daylight pics any other smartphone simply can't beat 808. Its daylight photos are comparable to a DSLR.
It's amazing how an 8 year old phone still puts today's high end flagship phones to the dust.
It doesn't support 4g, but it surely is mini-DSLR.
I'm keeping this one with me until it works, it still works like a charm after 8 years no service needed till date.
Some of my friends have used this phone for professional photography. The output is phenomenal.
I like the pictures you've taken, if possible, please make a video - tricks (customisation settings) to take better pictures with Nokia 808 Pureview.
The music makes me remember my debts 😢
🤒
Sad to hear about it dude, work hard , earn money and you will definitely pay all your debts good luck.
😂🤣
Ye thats happen with me too.. different fragrances remind me bad or good time
LOL 😂😂
I still own the legendary 808
Nokia's imaging chief Damian Dinnin might be very proud to see that he was 8 years ahead of the league.
Yeah of course, Damian even stated that Samsung statement about largest camera sensor is wrong. Damian said even the 8 year old 808 is still even bigger than Samsung ones
@@aaivilchip marketing, phones market fake things like "Snapdragon 845, 6 gb ram, 100 megapixel" and purposely make old phones bad th. software updates
Rather than saying Nokia was way ahead of time we should say the fact that there hasn't been development in the camera very much since then
That's also true
How good you want your camera to be?
Well I feel Huawei is innovate with their cameras
Million dollar comment
Honestly only department you can improve is low light that too you need to draw a boundary as to what is considered natural or overprocessed
No doubt a modern flagship clearly wins, but the pictures doesn't depict the 8 year time gap, in some cases the pictures of Nokia crushed Samsung especially the hi res ones
I choose the Nokia in most shots. Sure there is more noise, and the highlights are more blown out. But there is more detail, and the image is mostly sharper and the colours are far better. Very surprising that these are so close. DXOmark should do this phone hahaha.
Right now broo 😁
Wait till u see the 9.3
Without a doubt the 808 won
Not in every aspects..... Look at the dynamic range of the 808,its incredible, those are quite natural and pleasing... When you are compareing the details S20 is a clear winner...
Still have my 808. Thanks for uploading this as it reminded me to charge and use it again under lockdown and see what a tremendously wonderful invention it was!
Winston Tongco, I still have over 10GB of Belle Programs and tools for my Nokia 808 :) Custom Delight 808 ROM v1.5.0 and still works perfectly. To unlock the full potential of the camera CameraPro app is the best one ever made. The developer made specific N8 and 808PV software and it is incredible. The factory Camera App is does the job but the CameraPro is pure heaven😎
@@marktakacs8117 where can you find the camerapro app any link ?
@@peacebliss4121 www.n8fanclub.com/2011/11/camera-pro-30-advanced-camera-tool.html
Make sure you pick the right one as ``Nokia 808 PureView only``
The New Delight 808 ROM version 1.8 is the latest one, Freshly installed it and OMG fixed so many things and even better as the previous versions.
@@marktakacs8117 What are the main benefits of using a custom rom for 808? I saw that you wound unlock some features of the phone, but nothing better for the camera.
Nobody:
At 1:40
Gordon: "Your supposed to fry the pancake not take it to the crematorium"
Kind of makes me sad... Wanna cry.. the music
Then start crying
Why is it so? I have the same feeling 😕
Really...
Is the music taken from nokia tunes..
I crying when hear this and one of my family pass away 2 weeks ago, this music still has a sad feeling. hahahah 😂🤣😅😕🙁😞
Nokia fans hit like here
4:08 was just brutal. And that`s the reason, why I carry a Nokia 808 PureView in my other pocket at all times. Not when it`s getting dark, because it doesn`t stand a chance, but any other time it`s picture output is just so much better, without that unnecessary sharpening, processing and over saturated colors. It`s just amazing, how well that Nokia still can compete against best of the best 8 years later.
The crop is so clean with almost zero noise. Sharpening halos make S20 Ultra images look worse.
If u want colour accuracy get the pixel or iphone
I HAVE THE SAME OPINION ! I STILL USE 808 TOO !
Great catch man
Dude 8 years and they still up to date lmao, what did the other company's do, sleep?
NOKIA KING ✊🏻
Oh heck off, that's ignorant the phone has no image processing plus the software is on s completely dead platform
You don't need a potato with a 41mp camera
Wow! Imagine if that phone had all the processing capabilities we have now. And to imagine this one was realeased 10 years ago and how close the some of the images look from each other (and some were more natural on the 808, and also, lesser digital sharpening) is just so good to just even think about. That lowlight on the 808 without a dedicated night mode is quite impressive.
Nokia 808, looks more natural, because Samsung WB looks yellowed & edges oversharpen.
If only nokia stayed alive and pushed this tech :'(
Nokia 9.3 is coming with beast of a camera in couple of months
@@MohiSyed these will be more or less the same as recent flasgships. Nokia was doing pixel binning back in 2012 with 808. The n8, 808 and 1020 both had a physical nd filter that used to pop out during bright scenes. So even samsung variable aperture isn’t something ground breaking. They introduced floating lens(ois) in phones with the 920 (2012).
Just think what 8 years worth of continuous research would have produced today. It took samsung 8 years to put a sensor nearly as big as the 808 in a phone and 808 still didnt have any focus/edge blurring issues because nokia used proper zeiss optics on their cameras.
I started doing photography because of phones like n70, 73, 93i, 82, 95 and n8 and now I'm a full time professional photographer. Nokia's products were inspiring and ambitious for their times. Nokia was pushing clear black amoled displays since 2010 which we now call.super amoleds. The only real problem is that they ditched the n9's ui (meego was the name afaik). It was better than anything available at that moment. It had the gestures that ios brought with Iphone X and android followed. Nokia was 10 years ahead of its competition yet they failed because they were sabotaged internally by Stephen Elope.
@@nasidctg I have all the phone you listed.. Good old day.
Yeah I remember the days when Nokia came up with a phone with some new tech like every six months or so. Now all phones are kind of same and there have been only specs upgrades since 2010.
@@so7o3o4 Ya, those were the days 🥰
you had your time, you had the power
you've yet to have your finest hour
nokia, nokia
nokia, someone still loves you
2:56 S20 U : Shrek green
808 : Hulk green
Thank you for the compare. I still have my 808 and I am proud of it. :-)
This nokia has the DSLR quality 🤯🤯🤯
It does, I use it as camera all the time
pretty close i should say. depending on what DSLR. if its an entry level DSLR or semi-pro, or pro. ive used the younger brother of 808 the 1020 and it was awesome. i just ditched my point and shot camera and started using the 1020 as my quick snapper. the manual mode, the lossless zoom is just so fun to play with.
@@tkipiani91 I remember when I was a kid and my dad got notification of the ad that New Nokia was released just a few sec ago. He was a big fan of Nokia and wanted the Phone. How much did the phone it cost?
@@Scouppi it depends on condition used ones go from 150 ~ 400 $ I found two brand new ones for over 600$
@@eliasblanco3374 I use mine when I go hiking, there's no better camera that I can take to mountains it's small, light, battery life is good and let's not forget that it's a phone too and with great reception.
After all these years, you'd expect a modern flagship to blow the Nokia 808 out the water but it holds up pretty well. It does struggle with dynamic range though.
Well damn. 808 always blew my mind. The detail and color are just amazing.
Oh, my God, despite the difference years and time, it's still a really fierce competitor.
This phone is a legend
ZEISS pure view is the secret of camera strength
Happy to see how the 808 pictures look against the Samsung. I still have my 808 and I love it
looking at nokia 808 ,I feel that technological developments are just there
I still have my Nokia 808 😍
Praveen Kumar, Im still using mine for taking pictures since 2012 😎
WOW for an 8 year old phone the nokia really holds its own. I am truly amazed. great video.
who came here after mrwhosetheboss's video?
Feels like a therapy to watch this video, I'll add it to my relaxlist
It's a ringtones of Nokia
Nokia 808 luv... I still own one it’s screen protector is still on my second 808 bought in 2015. It happened to be the last piece available in Oman and I drove 300kms from my city to buy it..😍😘 just fantastic camera no post editing required after clicking pics.❤️
1:31 Nokia 9 Pureview camera be like
8 years apart and still so much similar! I am blown away. Have they (nokia) hidden this tech anywhere now? Think the technology was ready but all the other brands made it seem like an upgrade every year :|
There is a certain poetry to the 808 photos. A true masterclass in lens design by Zeiss. Such beautiful contrast.
Yeah, I can believe that. Sure that it cannot capture RAW and doesn't have on-board stabilization (which is a real shame), but the oversampled 808 can definitely produce far better photo quality than the Nona Bayer binned S20 Ultra.
नोकिया में एक राजा होने के पूर्ण गुण है जब नोकिया के ८ वर्ष पूराने फोन के केमरा के समक्ष ये सेमसंग नहीं टिक पा रहा तो फिर इस समय के फोन से क्या तुलना होगी इनकी नोकिया के साथ
808 was beyond the time
can you make L1020 vs S20 Ultra? thanks in advance
I have L1020😍
@@arnabghosh9622 me too
So who have wasted their money on S20U .😂
The only difference I believe is, Nokia's pics are looking old school and that of S20u are more of a modern era.
Modern day cpu processing
We used to capture moon pic with my friend's 808
Where you are from ??
Are u sure? I cant capture moon very well using my 808
@@OM-jc9mh it's not a joke
I still use my 808 for moon images. I've also done timelapses of eclipses with some third party apps on it that work incredibly well considering the age of the device and the lack of support for the OS.
@lightning9 you can just download and install CameraPro.sis on your 808 and get extra x11 zoom even at 41 mp res. and trust me, quality is still good
God the 808 still is amazing in spite of being 8 years behind in processing power and AI. Imagine if it is launched again with today’s specs! It wud be a killer!
I had Huawei Mate 20 Pro, Nokia 9 PureView and Xiaomi Mi Note 10 (atm) - but my dear Nokia 808 PureView is still (!!) always in my other pocket and I still use it often.
NOKIA 808 PureView (2012) has many advantages that today's flagships don't have:
+ much bigger sensor size (1/1.2") than (also huge) Mi Note 10
+ Xenon flash (and also LED)
+ camera has actually shutter
+ dedicated 2-stage camera button
+ FM transmitter (not just receiver!!) - yeah... I actually use this ocasionally
+ HDMI out (for quickly connecting to any display/projector)
--> BigScreen app is very good for presenting stuff - and you can pair it with Nintendo Wii mote for easier navigating and presentation
+ awsome durability (2012-2020 without any kind of extra protection - phone has been really through alot - and still works superb!! =)
+ design - I love this camera bump! It feels great in hand.
+ quick OS... ;))
+ swappable battery (I have 3 full batteries with myself when I go into wild) :)
+ very convenient (led) tourch - just hold phone lock button (yeah... that extra button also)
+ 3,5 mm headphone jack
Nokia ki baat hi kuchh alag hai bhai kon kon Nokia used kar raha hai or kon kon Nokia ko like karta hai ... please comment ...?
honestly. I saw that nokia has more details than samsung 😂
some one pls give this guy a medal, for his photography skills........
well undoubtedly Nokia was the OG thing or I would say the god father of them all.......
Nokia 808 PV:
5MP is the best mode
2MP is the best in terms of lowlight or Manual Mode
Say Samsung to Start Using Carl Zeiss instead of others i really impressed by Images taken by S20 Ultra, But still an Advanced Smartphone of current time and old Gizzer doing battle here, as i can see Old Geezer still beating Youngest here, I am still compering my Nokia 8 with all smart phones I buy today, N8 still rivals current technology, but 808 purview as successor of N8 Beating this youngest here with Single Snapper. It may not use full resolution scale but beating up right now.
It wud have been more tuf for samsung if that was lumia 1020
Carl Zeiss or zeiss lens for nokia and sony only
Nokia N8 And E7 smiles in cornor after this ❤️❤️❤️Nokia best camera
That 808 has a classic phone cam, groundbreaking at the time... and can go toe-to-toe with one of the current flagships 8 years later is testament to its strength of having a large sensor (physical size, not just pixel count). It's a sweetheart.
Old is gold . I still have my Nokia N70 ♥️♥️
Samsung really needs to fix their absolutely horrendous noise reduction
Don't forget Huawei, they are even worse than Samsung when it comes to horrendous noise reduction.
This is fake
I was never a big fan of Samsung's processing. The 808 still has a physically larger sensor btw ;p
If it had the HDR capability from today's computing while keeping the natural look, it would be better in most situations
Most people don't know what plays part in a camera. Tbh the only thing holding that camera Slightly back was processing. But there's a reason why that camera takes up a huge lump
why is it just like a before and after comparison. ❤️nokia for me wins this round
That moment when nokia knew how to make a smartphone with Great Cameras.
They still do
@@MohiSyed but not on the mind blowing levels.
Rather, they are making good camera with smartphone attached to it xD
@@longlegsescueta2335 this makes so much sense.
I'm so in love with that picture it just gave me a strange feeling 😳🥰
8:20 shoot from nokia is more detail 😍
So many macros photo here,
Not even use the other lense
But undoubtedly 808 still catch up with the primary sensor
Wtf? I checked the 1st pic and can already see a big leap for the 808, how is this possible???
Remember Nokia has a single back camera, what if it had the same camera configuration like the S20 ultra
Awesome video, thank you.
Nokia the Forgotten empire still wows us with one of their masterpiece.
this videos shows that we can still do much with our Nokia 808 and Lumia 1020 Pureview devices . in short Old Is Gold ..
True..
There's that nostalgia feeling on the nokia 808
Yeah man 😭
Nokia 808P AMAZZZING
How many points DXOshit gave it ?
only 77 points..
Modern smartphones has processing power to process the RAW image in real time, such as turning the highlight curve down, or upping the shadows, or stack 2 or more images, so it looks like the image has better dynamic range.
Nokia Lumia was actually great. I feel really nostalgic. The windows phones from Nokia were superb. Best in quality and make.
Nokia 808 is Symbian, no Windows...
The music is so pleasant 😌
Imagine Nokia 808, but with OIS and HDR. S20 Ultra would have no chance
I've used multiple lumia phones... The cameras in those are awesome... I still miss that camera... That camera ui... Exceptional... And way ahead of the generation...
Whats the background music? Its so soothing!💤
I will like it, because it shows in pure way comparison between these two phones. No editing, no cheating. Kippis!
Baap baap hota h... nokia 8 saal pahle itna acha phone bna rha tha jo abhi Samsung ka high end phone bn rha h
sahi me yar.Nokia🥰
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8:35 look at the tv behind the glass
It seems that nokia is ahead at night
Just look at the content written below Istanbul billboard, it's crystal clear on Nokia.. no other phone can compete
I had a friend who has a Nokia 808. Way back 2013 that Phone is so awesome when i was first saw it. He tells me that even a photographer is so amazed by his phone during that time.
I had 808PV, L1020 and most of the flagship phones up until P20 Pro. The 808PV and then the P20Pro have me the most joy and impression. The 808PV has this very dreamy bokeh and smooth color profile, especially the sky. It tends to look like a film camera. It took them so long to catch up eh? But then we must admit the current crop of sensors and processing are very good. The dynamic range is incredible. Just that it took them so long.
Nokia is definitely the best one 💯😍😍😍
Who is here after Mrwhosetheboss video? 😂
Can you give me video link please
Nokia we love's you! 😘
Nokia forever!
This comment section is full of clueless people. This phone wasn't "underappreciated", it was simply a product for nobody, filling a niche nobody needed to be filled. It came out when social media boom was starting out and it ran on Symbian, which was a dying system already being replaced by Windows Phone (rip) on Nokias and being rapidly outpaced by iOS and even Android, which was pretty primitive back then. So nobody would buy it for social media because Symbian didn't even have dedicated IG and Snapchat apps, and even if it had, nobody would have noticed the better photo quality because phone screens at the time were super low res. As for other niche, photography enthusiasts, they'd just buy a cheap phone and a better dedicated camera, which would still be cheaper than this phone at the time.
Don't get me wrong, the tech here is amazing. But it's no wonder it flopped. Why buy this and have a subpar software experience when you could've bought an iPhone 4S or a Galaxy S3 with comparable camera quality when viewing on their screens (which is what matters for 99% of people) and incomparably better software with actual social media apps
Ikr. The prefer to trust sellout shills who clearly have no clue in photography thinking that bright colour is best. 🤦♂️
I still have this Nokia 808, i have converted it into portable digicam & mp3 player..Damn its camera is still fantastic.. People get amazed to see its performance even nowadays..